American Bars Vs Irish Pubs -WHATS the Difference?
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You guys have been asking me a LOT what the difference is between American Bars Vs Irish Pubs and this Irish girl thought it was high time I answer your questions about Irish drinking culture and pubs in ireland.
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At 5:32 I misspoke.
To clarify-
lock down = because of covid
Lock in = when the doors officially close and you stay IN the pub
In the U.S., people use "lockup"-sometimes written as one word, sometimes as two-as another word for "jail."
The Irish pub I go to in America has lock-ins. Or rather it did, back before the Rona.
Many cities in the US have bars open to 3am or 4am.& a few cities bars are open till 6am. Hell South Florida had some Bars that close st 4am & other bars then open at 5am or 6am.
There's good dive bars and bad dive bars a good dive bar is a local place that has good food and drinks but isn't known to many people and it's kind of old and run down a bit then there's other diet bars that are just dirty and nasty. I guess we also call good dive bars "A holes n the wall" I'll use it in a sentence for you.
I like that "hole in the wall they have good food & pour heavy drinks, let's go there. 😂😂
one of the issues with carding Great Grandpa on June 6th, the day he and his boy landed in France, is because some computer systems will not let the server run a drink order through or a cashier process an alcohol sale without swiping that pesky ID through the magnetic reader first.
As for open late, I heard that in some parts of New York City, the bars only have to close down for 1 hour a night. That is just what I heard.
Keep up the good work and you are looking lovely today!
"Dive bar" is sort of a minor slight. It implies poor lighting, limited liquor selections, and a generally run-down state and doesn't usually serve food (though it can- Hole in The Wall in Austin was a marvelous dive bar that had great, greasy fried food). But I'd sooner go to a dive bar than a sports bar any day.
In America a bar is a freaking bar! It's a place to get drunk, plastered, hammered, sh*t-faced, or whatever you like to call it.... Anywhere that serves alcohol is!
Agreed, "dive bar" used to be an insult but now it's more of a description of the atmosphere: inexpensive and without pretentions to hipness or class. Dive bars have become respected enough in the US that there are now fake dive bars - bars that try to look cheaper and more lowbrow than they really are.
yeah, it depends. If the place is old and how crusty it is adds to the character then it's a compliment. If the places is like 5 years old and in shambles, then not a compliment.
I read that the term probably referred originally to illegal bars in basements during the prohibition era.
That said, you wouldn't mention that the bar is a dive within earshot of the staff or proprietor unless you're a regular.
Carding is often done as safety measure for the owners. Various authorities send their spies into the bars to buy alcohol or cigarettes to check if they’re selling to underage customers, then hit the place with a fine.
I once worked in a grocery store that sold beer and wine. There were signs all over the back room which read, "You Can GO TO JAIL!!!" Then it explained in smaller print that if a cashier sold alcohol to an underage person, they would actually be arrested.
It's definitely a legal matter when it comes to beer festivals. I've gone to a couple of them, and they check the IDs on everyone, more because they don't want some jerk making a big deal and saying, "You checked my ID but you didn't check his!" even though I'm 62 and look it. So they check everyone. If Betty White showed up, they'd check her ID. Not because they think she's under 21, but because if you check one, you should check 'em all.
The corner place a 2 block stumble home from my apartment policy is to card you until you have been there enough for the barkeep to know your order and bring your first round from memory, simply to avoid the fine for underage sale. A few months back someone was standing just outside the patio talking with friends for a few hours when I got there; then literally hurdled over the gate at midnight while everyone yelled out Happy 21st birthday! It WOULD have been a proud moment in his life but he tripped and instead laughed for a good 20 minutes while we all bought his first legal drinks all night😁
@@MrTommygunz420 Classic story! My own son, when he turned 21, I took him to the local brewpub and ordered him their amber lager, which is smooth and delicious. He took one sip and decided he didn't like beer. I had two beers that night, mine and his. I paid for it, it ain't going to waste!
It almost always endears ladies who are obviously over 21 to card them!(in the USA)
A dive bar used to have a negative connotation, but they have made a comeback in recent years. With so many bars being chains or corporate oriented, the neighborhood dive bar has become a place that people feel more comfortable supporting.
I liked how Editor Diane wasn’t being too condescending to Regular Diane until she called her “an uncultured swine”...never mind
Did Editor Diane go to Spain with you or is she back in Ireland? 😉
@@primemover1416 I've heard a rumor that Editor Diane had to stay behind in Ireland.
BTW in Wisconsin, a person as young as 18 can drink in a bar if they have family member present. This is actually a common law in a few states. Also I tip almost every round and I never really got a free drink because of it. I normally only get a free drink if the bar is being generous and that's usually if I am regular enough to be there.
I remember a young woman who would make sure to bring her marriage certificate so she could legally drink in a karaoke bar in Kenosha, WI.
"I'm putting it here for prosperity.... posterity... posterior... hindsight!!"
I can get behind that
When I was younger the local corner bars were typically called "taprooms" by the old guys, and they all had a separate entrance on the side of the building called the "Ladies Door". These had official signage and everything identifying them as such. Apparently unattended ladies were not to use the front doors as it would appear unseemly :-)
We sometimes do rounds, but it was more common in college when we had 20+ bars in 2 blocks to choose from so we would only do 1 drink at each bar. Someone would pick up that round, we'd drink it and move on to the next bar. Some tabs are done on the honor system and some bars put you card into their system so they can charge you when you close your tab. Many will hold the card so you don't forget to close the tab at the end of the night. Some bars have signs up that say if you forget to close your tab, they'll close your tab with 40% tip added on and you can pick up your card the next day.
To me a "dive bar" is usually not kept up as well. Such as broken stools, floor not swept, some lights may be out... That being said they may also be the best spot on a bad night. (Sometimes with a ride service, before Uber and the like.) All of this is from the "before time".
Years ago I had to go back to the bar is was in the previous night and ask the barkeep if i had spent $100. He said yes. I was very happy, i thought i had lost $100 somewhere.
As always thank you for the entertainment. Stay safe. Take care. 😎
Two Irishwomen walk into a bar. One turns to the other and says “You uncultured swine!”
A minister, a priest and a rabbit walk into a bar.
The rabbit says, _"I might be a typo."_
It'll be a requirement on your next visit: whoever meets up with you or knows the city you're headed to has to find a dive bar for you! (I did that for a friend of a friend from Spain once, she was an English teacher, who wanted to experience it for her own edification ...😉) some people take pride in hanging out in a dive bar. It's not the same as every pub, just a certain kind of pub. It's a little less clean, and a portion of the clientele might be a bit rough around the edges. No pretentions or "notions" whatsoever. But when you *choose* to hang out there over less gritty places, you sort of appreciate the lack of notions
Even if you've lived all your life in a tipping culture, doing the math to figure out an appropriate tip gets complicated after you've had a few.
Glad to hear I’m not alone
After a long night the tip may be just whatever I have left.😎
This can be beneficial for the server....lol. I've actually double checked, on multiple occasions, especially for regulars.
I've also found cash on the floor cleaning up after hours...
@@DianeJennings Unless you are in a fancy place, a dollar a drink is usually an acceptable tip.
10% of the tab is easy to calc, then just double (or triple if you're generous) that amount.
Usually when an older person is Carded, (ID checked) it's done as a form of playful flattery. It's basically the bartender saying that the patron looks a lot younger than they really are. Everyone involved knows it's baloney, but it's a quick, easy way to start an older person's evening off with a laugh and a smile. Sure, it's cheesy, but most folks enjoy it.
like when the waiter asked my (10 yo) sister for her id when she ordered a root beer lmao
I love the pub culture in Ireland. My first experience was Hoban's in Westport. We were on a tour and knew that the Irish performer leading our tour would be there with local musicians that evening. A woman we didn't know waved us in to sit near her(seating was very limited). She chatted away and eventually we were joined by 2 more generations of her family. The craic was great, the music was fantastic and the pints were flowing. Since then I have been to Delaney's in Kilkenny and Murphy's in Dingle and many more whose name i can't recall. I don't go to bars in America, since I really am not much of a drinker and my husband doesn't drink at all. But, find me an Irish pub here or in Ireland and I will go for sure.
When I lived in Alaska (and was 19 - 25 years old) it was really easy to stay out drinking until 5-6am since the sun might still be out at that time during the summer. But, now I'm all old (a whole 36 years old!) and tired so, I'm on board with with Ireland's midnight stopping point.
Dive Bar: if regulars and even staff/owners call it a Dive Bar then it just the culture of the place there can be nice people etc. and it is a term of self deprecating affection If you say or hear I won’t go there it’s a Dive ( notice no Bar just Dive) then that is disparaging
Yeah, a genuine "dive" is a place where you walk in, and everyone stares at you because you're not a regular, and half the regulars probably have arrest warrants. Most self-proclaimed dive bars want to seem a little bit "outlaw," but really aren't. Not much like Irish pubs though, I don't think.
I wish we did have pub-like bars here. I've never much liked the American sort.
You're the only person I've seen mention "dive bar" as distinct from "a dive," and you're spot on correct, friend.
ED had a lot to contribute to this vid. I think she's missing going out for a drink 🤣
Closing times do vary depending on location. Here in NY, last call can be as late as 4am. However, bars have the same unofficial policy as you do in Ireland. The bartender will turn out the lights, close the shades and we continue drinking until the sun comes up.
Being labeled a "Dive Bar" is a Badge of Honor.
It's not posh, and more than likely needs a make-over.
But such places have character ... great food .... cold beer ... and a group of patrons that will make friends with the first visitor that walks through the door !
Plus most of these establishments have not changed since our Parents and Grandparents were going there when they were youngsters.
Sooo the reason we ask people to have their ID even when we know they are of age, is simply for identification purposes in case anything should happen. An emergency, a fire or a fight, for example. I also work in a Dive bar. Years ago they were considered "seedy" but really, all they are is a local place, probably outdated, cheaper drinks, mostly local regulars, decorated with the owners old junk, caked with dust...But still has charm. After all my years of bartending the dive bars is where I tend to make the most money.
Old man pubs
I only tip percentages on regular restaurant meals with table service. When ordering drinks at a bar, I don't bother figuring out percentages. I typically just tip a dollar per drink (unless I order something super expensive and fancy, which I never do). I typically just order beers or ciders, so I just tip a dollar per drink.
Diane living in the state of Oklahoma I'm well over the legal drinking age when I'm asked for my ID I feel so much better makes me feel younger
I think some servers check IDs of older people to get a bigger tip. Flattery...
I was still getting carded when I was in my mid 30's. Now I'm in my mid 50's and I tell them I'm in my mid sixties. Damn I look good for being in my 60's.
A lot of times a dive bar is preferred over other establishments that also serve alcohol. A lot of people avoid them (for various reasons) so locals have a much quieter and more enjoyable time hanging with friends than say a local sports bar.
From what you described, our dive bars sound a lot like Irish pubs. Most bars don't take it as an insult. Maybe initially it was, but it just became a descriptor. It's even used on rating sights. I like dive bars, they are my preferred, and that's how I describe them to my friends.
Delightful video! I have not been to an Irish Pub but the English Pubs are great--entirely different feeling than being at a so called Pub in the U.S..
My definition of dive bar is a place with just the basics, not at all interested in being "on trend" or impressing anybody, usually populated with locals & regulars. Also, in my state they have to offer food if they serve alcohol, and these places usually have the kind of greasy, heavy foods you want when you're out drinking (though of varying levels of quality). I've never seen it as an insult, I kinda love them.
Originally a dive bar was on a sub level to the sidewalk, a basement or half basement level. They were generally a cheaper working class establishment and played less rent than an upscale saloon in the same neighborhood.
A couple people mentioned “hole in the wall” as another name for dive bars, but holes in the wall can be any type of little, old restaurant. Essentially, you’re walking down a street and see a crusty little door with a tiny sign and no windows, and go inside to find a tiny restaurant that may or may not pass inspection. But if they have good food and a good atmosphere, you’ve found a gem!
In America, "Blue Laws" were established to stop certain activities on Sundays. How they were created and enforced differed greatly based on what State or City you were in. I never heard of Blue Laws stopping women from using bars (as Editor Diane stated).
However, back in the day, American bars were segregated by sex -- the men in one section and women in a smaller location. Women could sit with other women and smoke and drink. In fact, there was a second entrance (usually around the side of the building) called the "Ladies Entrance" which led directly into the Women only section.
Yes, they certainly became more strict on checking ID over the years. I was lucky enough to be a teenager during the 90's, when they were a bit more lax. Celebrated 4 21st birthdays in bars before my actual 21st birthday.
Dive bar can have a slightly different meaning depending on where you are in America. In Wisconsin it refers to a bar that is not fancy and people go there with the sole intention of drinking heavily. They can be very fun.
In my younger years as a bartender, I had a particular gift for asking just the right people(usually ladies) for their identification.
It could make their whole NIGHT.. lol... and mine. 😉 because... Tip Culture.
Sometimes flattery can set your entire night right. I loved making them smile like that 😉 🥰⚘
End time varies state to state based on local laws. Here in Kansas, everyone has to be out of bars by 2am, but just over the state line in Missouri, the bars close at 3am. So you know if you are heading over there to expect a longer night. Some states are 24 hours. Unrelated to bars, but you can old buy alcohol at a store Mon-Sat 11amp-11pm and Sunday 1pm to 9pm. Sundays sales used to be illegal and have only been allowed for 2-3 years.
I grew up in the northeast part of Philadelphia. There, the blocks of row houses always have an "end house" at the corner. The basement is exposed at ground level, and was usually a corner grocery store, barber shop or beauty parlor, shoemaker, or a bar/pub (I lived in an Irish neighborhood). The front corner of the building was the entrance to the pub/bar, or as my grandfather called them to the day he died, "tap rooms". Toward the rear of the buildings there was usually a second door, with a sign, "Ladies' Entrance". The rear of the building was usually a few tables, as women simply did not drink at the bar. As neighborhood establishments, these were not fancy clubs; just the locals bellying up to knock down some brews and, as you say, have some good craic. One of my favorite things to do back then was listen to the baseball game on the radio, or if it was a step up from a "dive bar", watch it on the small television hung in the corner of the bar.
One pub in my town only had a few locals use it as was often full of An Garda officers as close to the nick, it was the only pub that was never raided during a lock in. Unfortunately now closed as the owner retired a few years ago and sold on the licence as he and his wife live above.
We had a Sargent that used to walk around town after closing time pressing his ear to doors and windows listening for any noise from inside before summoning reinforcements and hammering on the doors, as all inside scarpered out the back door, into the yard coming back in when An Garda had gone. A cat and mouse game for us all.
I’m in an pub right now!! Having a Guinness for you
Aww slainte 🍻
@@DianeJennings actually the US has lockdowns too. We call them private parties and its only people the owner knows are allowed to be there. The reason is a private party can serve booze legally up till 2pm or 3pm in most states. Where the public sale of alcohol ends at 12pm to 12:30pm in most states.
Tabs are actually not that common, in most bars you have to be a regular, and on good terms with the manager/owner.
One thing to remember is to distinguish between a local bar, a sports bar, and a nightclub.
The local corner bar has food durring the day and evening, and supervised kids are sometimes let in up till around 8 pmish, but can't drink, admittance is depending on the state. May have a tv with the local news on or local sporting event. It may also have karaoke one or two nights a week.
A sports bar has tv's everywhere and kids are not allowed period. More like what you described.
A nightclub has recorded music or live bands constantly along with massive dance floors. Again minors are not allowed at all.
My sister ran a bar for years, this is how I know.
@@user-lp3cf5yn5b idk never been to Ireland 🇮🇪
Diane: **enters a bar in the USA**
Bar patrons: “DIIIIAAAANNNEEE!” 🍺
🎵🎶”You wanna be where everybody knows your name!”
**laugh track**
I used to go to an Irish pub in NY owned by three sisters from Ireland who eventually moved back. It always had a crowd of Irish ex-pats at the bar. They had about 4 or 5 TVs each tuned to a different sporting event popular in Europe. Football, field hockey or whatever. But every TV had the sound on as well as the jukebox and it was this massive cacophony like these Irish gals didn’t know what to do with all those TVs. The Guinness was gorgeous and the shepherds pie and curry was lovely.
Ex pat now that is a word I loathe
I can be proud to say that I have been to an "Irish" bar called "Devere's". They have plenty of great food and is an amazing ambience up in there.
Kevin's in Florida, South West coast, has the craic...
People sometimes get offended because they don't understand how the service works. They have a seating area inside, with table service i think, but the entire pub and outdoor area is bar service. Best fish and chips in Florida. That and a proper pint, and the vibes, I'm happy. (Kevin's adorable and wicked funny, too🥰)
EDIT: Kevin's the owner, my bad, the name of the place is Celtic Ray Public House, in Punta Gorda, Florida. 🥰 We drove almost 2.5 hours to go see Seven Nations play Live 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 SAVAGE CRAIC... no lie!! I feel like I have been to an "authentic" Irish Pub, at least as close as I can get in the USA.
Editor Diane - Blue Laws had nothing to do with banning women from bars/pubs/saloons here in the USA. They were (silly) laws banning the sale of Alcohol (and other ungodlike things) on a Sunday (like you could buy baby formula but not a baby bottle). I890-1920 most Saloons were frequented by men, but many had separate ladies entrances, and although drinking was considered unladylike, corner neighborhood Taverns often had women accompanied by their husbands sitting at a table or the bar.
A dive is very much not like a pub. Usually establishments referred to as dives are dirty, often smelling of spilled booze and sometimes urine, and a fight breaking out is as likely as not. People don't go to a dive for a good time, the people there are there because that's the state of their lives. Not to say a person can't have fun in a dive - it just depends on if the person in question enjoys stabbing or being stabbed.
When I lived in New Orleans, way back 40 years ago, bars in the French Quarter were open from 6 am to 5 am. The one hour closing was for putting out the trash, but I think that was a joke.
In Massachusetts back in the day the only day they stipulated an opening hour for bars was Sunday (not to to be before 1pm) so bars when they were having a particularly good (non Saturday) night would kick everyone out at 2am and re open at 2:15am. This loophole eventually got fixed about the same time the drinking age went up to 21, Massachusetts also got rid of "Happy Hour" pricing and did other dumb laws. Dumb laws like the one that made it illegal to advertise alcoholic beverages that you don't sell, i.e. if you had a really nice Segram's 7 clock in your bar but decided to stop carrying Segram's 7 but kept the clock because it looked nice they could fine you.
The little cat ears are wonderful.
Well, here, something called a "pub" is more of a novelty, most especially if it's called an "Irish pub". A bar is the regular thing.
Exactly. Pubs (or "public houses") aren't really a thing in the US. "Irish pubs" are just Ireland-themed bars more or less, rather than actual pubs.
Actually, In America there tends to be an assumption that if you're alone in a bar, you're there to be picked up. In my case at the pubs it's helped to just be 'That girl that shows up with a book in the afternoons and sometimes stays for the music.' Once people get to know you, especially staff, that's generally OK. :)
In Belfast most pubs will let you open a tab. Maybe because there are so many American IT companies there who like to use the company credit card to pay for staff lunches/nights out.
But in rural areas, good luck even trying to buy a round with a card. Cash only, although maybe that's changed since Covid. Can't say, since I've not had a pint in a pub for over a year 🍺😢
I want visit Belfast someday soon, and visit your pubs and countryside. My G G Grandpa emigrated from Larne.
A dive bar was originally a bar that was in the basement of a building, so that, to enter the bar, you had to dive down from street level.
Corner/neighborhood/dive bar are all variations on a theme and much closer to your idea of a Pub and would be very common in middle America. As with your Pubs, commonly family owned and possibly passed down to many generations. May or may not serve different levels of food. My neighborhood bar has a few highchairs in the corner for the families when they bring the kids in for a bite to eat.
I am an American "Irish Pub" owner. We do allow kids in til 9pm. We stay open til 2am usually when the "younger crowd" comes in we have music or karaoke. We have pool tables and food and such. We do have 2 tvs in one seating area (for folks who are looking for sports scores or something - we will also play a streaming service of funny internet videos) and 2 large projectors that we use for Karaoke so everyone can sing along if they like. If a bar is trying to capture that "Dive Bar" vibe - then yes, its totally ok to refer to it as a dive bar. A dive bar is that neighborhood hangout. Not fancy, no "mixology" will be found there. Maybe a handful of mixed drinks but mostly beer, whiskey and 2 part drinks (rum and coke, vodka and cranberry, etc). Usually small (1200 square feet or so). Also popular because they can also be a little lax on the ID requirements making it a young persons first "Bar Experience". If you have any questions - let me know. I have decades of experience in the industry here in California and have visited maybe 40 or 50 American "Irish Pubs". They are varied and strange lol.
How do you think Americans should feel about the NAME of the drink "Black & Tan"? I always thought it was a nice reference to the colors, but Diane and commenters mentioned it as offensive to The Irish, and that name is referring to Terrorist Squads aligned with the British police during The Troubles..
@@sterling557 most Americans have no idea about the history of the Black and Tan. But how I feel about it? I don't pay much attention to drink names from the perspective of how offensive they are. Many drink names are created to be as gross and offensive as possible. An "Aborted Fetus" is particularly gross. Bloody Mary is named after Mary Tudor I. "Red Headed Slut" is another. And so on and so on. Aside from that, I rarely have anyone order a Black and Tan. But, an "Irish Car Bomb" on the other hand...
Just to clarify why people obviously above drinking age are asked for their ID in America. The law can and will hold an individual employee of a bar criminally responsible as an individual for providing alcohol to anyone underage rather than the employer. Also, in some states it is also illegal to provide alcohol to someone without ID regardless of age. You could be 100 years old and still be asked for ID in America in the more regressive States. Every state has different laws.
A "dive bar" is a very basic bar, usually with minimal interior decoration or visual appeal. The drinks are cheap and mostly consist of shots of hard liquor and cans or bottles of beer, though beer on tap is not uncommon. Food is generally not served, though they may allow you to order delivery food directly to the bar. Dives can be located on commercial streets but not usually in "nice" areas. Some bars really 'lean in' on their dive status as a deliberate business model and may open as early as 6am (or as early as the law allows). A dart board and pool table would not be out of place.
9:43 A Dive Bar is a no thrills bar with inexpensive drinks and out dated decor. Great place to find someone who likes to banter about old story’s and tells. Dive bars use to be found in basements and you dived below street level to find them.
I don’t drink much alcohol anymore, but if I ever were to visit Ireland I would definitely check out the pubs. In reference to your Wednesday video you stated China was no longer a Communist state. I respectfully disagree since they are one of five Communist countries in the world today. It, like today’s video was well done as all your’s are. Thanks and have a great weekend!
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Dive bars are pretty much like pubs, except you wouldn't bring your family with children there. They are quiet during the day, but after 10pm or so, they can get loud and rowdy. If they do sell food, it's usually a single signature item or just frozen pizzas or some freezer-to-fryer situation.
Here, a family friendly pub is more like a taproom, which is a bar run by a brewery that exclusively sells its own beer and no hard liquors, often with a full food menu or a food truck parked outside. Many have board games, arcade machines, and sometimes live entertainment.
In America, you open a tab, order whatever you want, and then pay/tip at the end. The tab stuff can be confusing at first, but it's pretty easy after one or two times
I've been carded occasionally, usually at baseball/football games, and I'm well over 60. I spent a Lotta time in Aggieville in the Little Apple. Seemed like every doorway was another bar--fun times!!
Diane, love your channel and I have a story from my late mother to share with you. In 1971 she went to McSorley's (NYC) with her then boyfriend. The pub had just began allowing women and of course, still had only one restroom. Every few moments or so a member of the kitchen staff would come out of the kitchen and yell, "One sex at a time!", causing discreet laughter.
It’s all about the “old man” bars here in LA. Drinks are not that expensive and the bartenders usually have “heavy hands”(pour a lot more alcohol) when they make your cocktail of choice. These kinds of bars tend to be just a bar…maybe have dart boards or a pool table and jukebox.
LA punk rock band icon Youth Brigade even wrote a song about it.
The local Dive Bar in my town was a beer and wine joint.
It was busiest during pay-day for those on the government dole.
House special was the 'Thunder Rose', Thunderbird + Rose wine.
Definitely a place where everyone knew your name, strangers were eyed with suspicion.
8:45- I just tip $1 a beer if I'm paying per round, I only open a tab if I'm also eating (which is generally my food and one while I wait, followed by a shot and a water after eating. That's when I cash out and switch back to cash.) It only took a few accidental $200+ nights to get the system in place
Running a tab....when I was stationed in Germany, whenever you were in a gasthouse or restaurant, your bartender or waitperson would turn your beermat over and mark a stroke on it to keep track of how many you'd ordered. At the end, or when you were ready to go, they'd check the back of the beermat and charge you for that number of drinks. It was very convenient. Also, a word about American blue laws. They vary state to state (as you can imagine), and here in Texas, you can't buy liquor on a Sunday, and you can only buy beer and wine after 1 PM (although it may be noon). At some point I keep hoping all the uptight old fogies who pass laws and never think to repeal them, or are simply uptight all the time, will go away and we can all enter the 21st century, and quit pretending it's still the middle of the last century, or sometime in the middle ages. Despite the very middle ages type plague we're going through.
Lol, Diane, I've been to Spain 5 or 6 times....I only got free liquor once (and my coworkers were insisting that it was his way of hitting on me!). Lol, we'd love to live in your world for a day! Rock it while you can, sis! 😄
Haha maybe they were! I don’t think they’re hitting on my folks though. Or maybe....
@@DianeJennings Well, no. Everybody in my group was offered free ice cream..... But they were most definitely telling me that he was hitting on me. This was a married couple and my colleague who had been there with me before period free stuff doesn't happen as much as it used to since they switch to the euro
Com'ere, look. Do your parents *always* get a free liqueur after dinner there? Or only when you're there with them? That's how you tell😉
Dive bars are just another experience. EG I'm at a dive bar in north Pittsburgh Pa while "Take the money and run" cues up. The bar tender a flirty 40yr old chimes "oh your old school! I love it" then nails the train cource...i laughed and we had a great night.
Few days later I'm at a high end sports pub and the same tune is up. THIS time I nail the train cource and the high end looking bar tender nearly scoffs walks of and reappears with two super cute bar keeps and all three in unison nail the clapping 👏 cources....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍nearly the best day of my life...
Each state sets their own drinking age, which is typically 21. However, on federal land, it can 18, especially on military bases. Things get weird when you have a military base in "dry" county. A dry county does not allow the serving or sales of alcohol. Fort Knox ( of gold depository fame) is located in a dry county with a wet county a few miles away.
As a cashier in a liquor store, I am instructed to "card" anyone that appears to be under age 30, to be safe, as you must be age 21. I am fined $10k if I serve anyone under age. I did once card a lady in her 50s. After handing back her ID, I asked to see it again, and on giving it back again, I looked her in the eye and told her "you look GOOD". She was thrilled.
Im glad to see Chewie got his summer haircut so he can keep cool. Well hes always cool but you know what I mean.
Yes a dive bar can be equated somewhat to a pub. Especially when the brawlers have a good go at each other.
Dive bar is kind of like a rat rod if it was a car. Lol. There’s my favorite dive bar in Carolina beach. Rusty Pelican. You can sit in an old boat out back while tossing back a cold one. You can go in the cooler yourself to pick out your drink. Just a mix of stuff to make a collage of sorts.
There are a few American cities that have the bars stay open until 4:00 a.m. And there are more house parties and private social clubs going late. It depends on the area. East Coasters go and stay out later than people out West or down South.
In Alabama, I was taught to check all ID’s no matter their age. We were supposed to not serve anyone with an expired license, or risk a penalty or fine. To this day, I still check every ID when I have someone come up to me
While I was in Ireland I actually liked the pub scene way more then some of the American bars I've been to. I have been to a few American style Irish pubs that were ok and and some that actually pour Guinness correctly. Only the Guinness in Ireland really does taste much better then the Guinness that is served to you in America. It's still good, but I guess it just does not travel well.
You if you come back try and hunt down pubs with independent micros beer on draught. Porterhouse temple bar has reasonable prices,Doyles on fleet street serves O’ Hara’s stout and red ale
lucky i lived near the boarder of Mexico from the age of 16 when i was able to drive there Friday night was Mex night $10 cover then open Bar after that drinks are very watered down
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While not a drinker, I still enjoyed going to the Irish pub near the Minnesota Vikings stadium. Premier League was on and everyone had their favorite. American bars are more for kvetching about the foibles of every day life. Tabs are not too common anymore. A semi-watering hole near me does table service simply because of the overwhelming numbers that go in and out. Dive bars almost always call themselves a dive bar. They aren't about aesthetics, just a good time.
Love your videos and I prefer pubs to bars. Thanks for letting ED have a few spots in this 👍😀😉
I need a new bar or pub to hang out in. The one I used to go to has a new crowd there, and it's just not the same. Basically a dive bar is a place that looks run down. Those can be fun though. Enjoy your weekend 😃 🍺🍻🍺 🍻🥂🍻🥂
Never saw one in a faux Irish pub in America and they're disappearing in Ireland, but Snugs are a great "private area" to chat in private. I remember when the Palace on Fleet street banished single females from the bar area to the back of the pub so they could sip their "shorts" after a shopping spree on Henry Street without being seen and gossiped about.
Irish pubs are WAY better IMO. The atmosphere felt more welcoming. Maybe it was being a tourist that helped it along, but I felt more welcome. Such a great time.
I cannot wait to come back for a proper pint and food.
Happy Friday, Diane. 😊
Thanks pubs with dark wood interiors are my favourite
Judging from the comments here, the definition of "dive bar" seems to have changed quite a bit from when I was growing up. To me, a dive bar is definitely a no-frills place, but it's much worse than that. It's a place that's run down. The floor doesn't get swept too often, nor does anything else get cleaned too often. The restrooms look as if they haven't been cleaned in decades. The drinks are inexpensive. However, it's not only the state of the bar that makes a dive bar. The clientele is usually both poor and alcoholic. They go there to drink their troubles away. A dive bar is about as depressing a place as you can imagine.
Dive bar has definitely moved from your definition to more of an aesthetic, I'm almost 50 and I've witnessed the shift. My parents owned a bar for the first 35 years of my life and while it wasn't a dive bar at the time, it would be called one now by the modern definition.
Fun video!
E.D. Seemed pretty talkative today 😁
I know some bar owners who consider it a complement to call their place a dive bar.
Many people when sitting at the bar will put their cash on the bar in front of them and the bar tender will take what is needed after each round. The tip is then left at the end although some will tip per round. Of course, this might date me as many younger people hardly ever use cash.
When I was in the USAF and stationed in England, my English friends introduced me to rounds. When I came home to the states, I introduced it to my American friends.
It's important to know the rules of neighborhood bars. I was shooting darts with friends at a bar in Milwaukee. When the locals showed up to watch a hockey match, we knew we had to shut up and move to a booth.
When I worked at a movie theater I used to card people for Rated R movies. Just for fun and to see their expression. Nothing like asking for ID from an 80 year old woman and insisting that she could simply be lying about being 17+.
"I need to confirm your ID."
"Why?"
"Well....this film is Rated R. I need to make sure you are 17 years old or older. I can't just take your word for it."
"Oh dear, you made my day!"
Checking the ID's of older looking people is more of a compliment from the bartender. Kind of saying something like "Wow! You look really good for your age!"
Settling your tab in an American pub is a lot simpler if you are at your regular pub. The barman/woman is not charging you for some drinks, and you respond by paying a round number that represents a huge tip.
I can confirm same pub since they opened I'm there once or twice a week. 5 years on I just hand then cash when I go in advance as I know what I'm going to get.
Generally when my friends and I go to a bar we tip a dollar a drink (when not running a tab) or 15-20% on a tab at the end of the night. We won't run a tab if we're just grabbing a couple of drinks. That's how we do it, anyway.
I opened a bar once, that was quite new and clean, but eventually it became more of a dive bar because I like them better. And of course we had darts. Also pints.
Generally a dive bar is a small place that smells of stale beer. Customers (who are mostly regulars) order simple drinks, mostly straight liquor up or on the rocks. However, depending on your tastes, they can be extremely comfortable.
So to answer your question, is "dive bar" an insult? It depends on who you ask.
As a bartender in America. I welcome people from Europe. As I enjoy talking about the differences between the 2 parts of the world. Then, ask them if they want to open a tab. I get a blank stare. And. I love dive bars. And always tip yrr bartender.
Typically around where I am a dive bar is a smaller local bar closer to y'all's pubs it's not all fancy with the TVs and they usually typically only serve beer there
Also, in America I've noticed this strange thing about bar and wait staff getting paid less than minimum wage, because employers are allowed to consider tips as part of their wages. That is serious shite for American employees. In the UK and Ireland they still get full minimum wage besides the tips.
Nothing better that a Guinness in an Irish pub! That’s heaven!
I actually use dive bar in a good way, I think they're great! I'm from Portland, OR though, that might have something to do with it. Lol
How are things in Oregon?
@@haloplayeroflegend2515 quite nice, thanks. How're things in your neck of the woods?
@@GrassLion85 I'm doing good 👍
A dive bar is more of a classification of bar rather than a compliment or insult. Dive bar = a little dark and gritty, jeans and a tshirt, pool tables, on the small side, etc.
Then there’s chichi bars which would be more upscale, nicer attire, jazzy music, expensive craft cocktails, etc.
Sports bar would be what you’re imagining with TVs on every wall.
Pub would be a smaller, more intimate bar but no pool tables generally, but also relaxed casual attire is acceptable.
And then there’s clubs which I’m sure I don’t have to explain. (:
I’ve worked in the service industry for many years here in the PNW! Hopefully that helps!
I once went to a Irish pub in Walla Walla, Washington (State) and it was a dive.
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Another difference: when I first visited Ireland I took a musical pub crawl. The native singer said the eaisest way to tell an American style (tourist) pub from an actual (Irish) pub was to look at the walls. American would have decorations like tools and bikes and such, while real ones didn't bother with that ... poop.
If you go to a US dive bar and a) there's chicken wire in front of the bandstand or b) the chairs are bolted to the floor, just turn around and walk away. That's a lot more "dive" than you want.
A dive bar depends on the bar.... Normally, when you refer to a dive, it's really not a place you want to go alone...It's that place where you walk in and grab a pool cue, even if you don't intend to play.....However, it's kind of become a "thing" to be a dive recently, so you have bars that go out of their way to be a "dive". We have one that just opened just down the street from me called The Dive on 75, so, there's that...LOL