REPLACE DROPBOX - How to Use Synology NAS as a Dropbox Replacement

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  • @AlexKingCreative
    @AlexKingCreative 3 місяці тому +10

    Exact reason that I just bought my NAS a month ago. Been paying $100/m for years. Have about 35TB on Dropbox and have just moved everything to my NAS. Should be able to cancel Dropbox in the next week or so.

    • @AaAa-je5eo
      @AaAa-je5eo 3 місяці тому +2

      This is the way

    • @juleslincredule
      @juleslincredule Місяць тому

      Great... Can you tell us about the NAS you bought and your settings? Thanks

  • @ryanw8664
    @ryanw8664 3 місяці тому +19

    Alright, how’s it going y’all? Check. This is a video I’ve been meaning to do for a while? Check. Informative content explained masterfully? Check.

  • @NoahIida
    @NoahIida 3 місяці тому +23

    Microsoft One drive does this same thing with the desktop and documents folders. Migrated to synology drive and photos, haven’t looked back since.

    • @DavidM2002
      @DavidM2002 3 місяці тому

      If you go into the Onedrive settings on your task bar, ( Account \ Choose Folders ) you can uncheck the boxes for the folders that you don't want them to touch including desktop and documents. I don't use Onedrive as MS intended but rather as a cheap, cloud location for a backup that still provides value to me.

    • @NoahIida
      @NoahIida 3 місяці тому

      @@DavidM2002it definitely does have value to some I just prefer not to trust Microsoft with my data. I’d also like to control the backups and snap shots myself so that I know my data is securely backed up in multiple locations.

    • @RogierYou
      @RogierYou 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah One Drive sucks!

    • @mrbobo86
      @mrbobo86 3 місяці тому

      i have to deal with so much authenticator crap when i use onedrive

    • @regwatson2017
      @regwatson2017 3 місяці тому

      Does anyone know if there is a Synology App to get my photos out of Google Photos like this does to get Dropbox files ?

  • @razielbeoulve819
    @razielbeoulve819 3 місяці тому +1

    Bro your videos have helped me tons to unlock all the potential from my Synology box, thank you so much!

  • @Xfacehack
    @Xfacehack 3 місяці тому +2

    Using both is actually the best option, now you might not want everything in there. But important files synced to a NAS then encrypt all files or whatever files you want and upload sync to dropbox or any other storage cloud provider

  • @fuzzylon
    @fuzzylon 3 місяці тому +3

    Thank you for explaining this.
    I don't use Dropbox, but I am horrified that a company such as Dropbox would do such a thing !
    I will stick to using my synology - and you have been a great help with all your well explained videos. Thank you.

  • @MisterPikol
    @MisterPikol 3 місяці тому +1

    hell yeah let's goooo, your vids are invaluable to me lately as I upgraded to a better synology

  • @Net7GiantMeteor2024
    @Net7GiantMeteor2024 3 місяці тому +2

    I hate to echo others here, but Syno drive has all the problems posted and more. The painful slowness even though its local, the cert "troubles", it randomly just not syncing and you have to totally redo setup, and my biggest pet peeve, a blacklist you cannot modify. Kills it for use of portable apps because the hidden (from the client front end, yes its on the syno website) list of file and folder NAMES (not locations which would make sense, but NAMEs...). Its an alternative, but not the best, just portainer a nextcloud or similar solution on the syno, all the benefits, and equal setup drawback.

  • @Jonathan20002
    @Jonathan20002 3 місяці тому

    Very good video, thank you. For the reverse proxy, opening port 80 is not a mandatory. I only have the 443 open for the web pages and it's working perfectly fine. Only redirection from http to https won't work.
    Thanks again for the quality of your videos.

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  3 місяці тому +1

      You need 80 open for lets encrypt to work
      I also would always add it. There is no security risk to it, and it can make stuff confusing otherwise

    • @Jonathan20002
      @Jonathan20002 3 місяці тому

      @@SpaceRexWill Ho OK... i will see what's happening, nothing for the last past year yet.
      I keep that in mind, thank you.

  • @wrehtube
    @wrehtube 3 місяці тому +2

    Can Synology Drive do incremental sync of parts of a file only? So if you have a big file changes it will only sync the changed part. OneDrive and Google Drive still can't do that if I am not mistaken.
    That's the reason a lot of users still use DropBox

  • @adavidov1
    @adavidov1 3 місяці тому +1

    How you deal with the Drive not auto syncing ?
    In addition there is no indexing on the Files app on iOS.
    2 things that Dropbox has and Synology Drive not.
    Do you have solution for these?

  • @garynagle3093
    @garynagle3093 3 місяці тому

    Great video. Well explained. Thank you

  • @shamusmurphy
    @shamusmurphy 3 місяці тому +2

    Amazing. I am in the middle of this, thanks for making this!
    One additional thing I am wondering if you have a solution for, I am trying to setup my backup Synology at our 2nd office. Currently we all connect to Dropbox we don't need to consider specific NAS units to connect to. Especially if we are accessing off site. Is there a way to have both units use 1 address and the network traffic will direct users to the fastest connection? What if 1 unit is offline for some reason. Want to avoid users needing to pick which server to connect to

  • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
    @BoraHorzaGobuchul 3 місяці тому +1

    Yes, DB is trying to pull everything inside itself. They all do. That's why you're given a functioning brain, to set it up properly.
    However: DB is bulletproof. I've been using it for ages, and I remember only two times it didn't sync something, which was fixed by restarting the client.
    Synology Drive regularly f*ks up. Sometimes it just refuses to sync some files. Sometimes it stops syncing for unknown reasons. Sometimes it dies silently.
    It's just not reliable enough for production. I wanted to migrate to it from DB, but now it looks like a nonstarter. I regularly have to resolve issues with syncing, because this or that file has not appeared/gotten updated, and some of the stuff we do is time-critical. I have other things to do than babysitting a sync client. And that's only from test rollout with one other employee running it. I shudder to think what would happen if several people start using it...
    Synology, hire some dudes with DB on their resume to make your client usable. Also, its interface is unusable. So is dropbox's, but i rarely have to use it, whereas with syno drive i constantly have to go there to check if it's up and what may be the reason it stopped syncing. Not that it helps, it gives no info on why sh*t is happening...

  • @Dr1vrAI
    @Dr1vrAI День тому

    You can make a video how to replace Synology Drive by Nextcloud?

  • @SergeiWhobichakokov
    @SergeiWhobichakokov 3 місяці тому

    Great video. Can you do this with google photos? There isn't an option for it in cloud sync. I was wondering if it was photos was a part of the google drive option.

  • @andrewf.7813
    @andrewf.7813 3 місяці тому

    Great video! I tried this with lightroom catalogs. I made a shared folder on DS then put all my LG catalogs in so every computer on my network can use the catalogs but for some reason they are not being pulled in from the NAS 🤷. Could you maybe explain how to do that in a video?

  • @JdeW100
    @JdeW100 3 місяці тому

    I changed from Syno Drive again since it eats up so much more space than you think. That’s on top of snapshots and other cache like things. In fact, DSM is very bad at giving users easy insight and tools to manage disk space. My shares are maybe 60% of full capacity, but in fact I was at 95% of capacity and only able to unlock 5-10% by cleaning up, deleting snapshots etc etc. ~30% is just …buried deep down somewhere in the file system.

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  3 місяці тому

      This is where you need to be careful with synology drive versions.
      This is often taking up quite a bit of space

  • @guidobyfredo
    @guidobyfredo 3 місяці тому

    Thanks. Please can you also make a video on how to replace One Drive?

  • @tomschi9485
    @tomschi9485 3 місяці тому +1

    *CAUTION, Synology Drive is a nightmare: PROBLEM NO. 1: Synology Drive clients on Windows & Co. do not synchronise the security / access rights set* for the user on the NAS. If the user is not allowed to create or modify a file in a synchronised directory, Synology Drive will allow it anyway. The sneaky thing is that these files will simply not be synchronised and the user will not notice. As a result, data is lost, misunderstandings occur, and unedited files are published.
    *PROBLEM #2: There is no professional DEPLOY* to specify the address of the Synology server and the default pattern for the path of the local storage location when installing Synology Drive. This means that users cannot easily log in intuitively.
    *PROBLEM NO. 3: There is no professional UPDATE for Synology Drive.* It happens that the configuration is lost during an update!

  • @royaltiger006
    @royaltiger006 3 місяці тому

    OneDrive seems to do that same thing! It takes over windows os for file explorer

  • @spunkyPL
    @spunkyPL 15 днів тому

    Have you ever have an issue that synology drive does not see some files? I had this issue yesterday. I took a set of photos when I was offline. They were saved into synology drive synced directory. When I connected to my wifi it was supposed to sync all the photos to the NAS. I probably closed my laptop to early and some of them weren't synced. Unfortunately, when I opened my laptop again, synology was ignoring those few files. The only solution was renaming them. It happened on macos with on demand sync. I'm not sure now if I can trust that solution.

  • @burakozkan1
    @burakozkan1 3 місяці тому

    Hi,
    I would like to implement Digital Asset Management on top of Synology. Do you have any suggestion for alternative of Synology Photos?
    Thanks

  • @kvora1777
    @kvora1777 3 місяці тому

    Will, great video. I learned a lot. Thanks. Keep up the good work. I just had a quick question. I did what you suggested. Everything works great except one. On my primary computer I see Team folder with Dropbox copy and all is good. Same on iPhone. But on my other Macbook Air remotely I see my Drive but not the Team folder. I uninstalled/reinstalled the Synology Drive, unlogged/relogged but still the same. What am I doing wrong. Thanks

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  3 місяці тому

      You just need to make a sync job for the team folder as well as my drive

    • @kvora1777
      @kvora1777 3 місяці тому

      Will, sorry to have bothered you. While waiting I figured it out. I had to add a shared folder in the Synology Drive Client. Thanks for your teaching good stuff

  • @mochapowered
    @mochapowered 3 місяці тому

    Im not overly clear how you get your drop box data ( which synced fine) to the my drive folder. great video btw

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 3 місяці тому

      You could cut them manually, or sync then via clodsync afair

  • @JeremyTaylorNZ
    @JeremyTaylorNZ 3 місяці тому +1

    two questions:
    1) can you do this with TrueNAS/NextCloud now?
    2) how can you capture the file history stored on Dropbox, not just the lastest version?

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  3 місяці тому

      You can use nextcloud to do the same thing!
      Though I dont know of a way to get the DB history

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 3 місяці тому

      History - most likely not doable

    • @JeremyTaylorNZ
      @JeremyTaylorNZ 3 місяці тому

      @@SpaceRexWill can you do a vid on it? 😃

  • @ronpack4303
    @ronpack4303 3 місяці тому

    You have the DiskStation ds 923+, do you know if Seagate IronWolf Pro 22TB Enterprise NAS Internal HDD will work? I have 3 of them and considering this NAS. Thanks!

  • @CampbellMorkham
    @CampbellMorkham 3 місяці тому

    Curious - Synology has not released a DSM Update for over 4 months (Current is Version: 7.2.1-69057 Update 5 - 8-Apr-2024). Previously they released updates about every 4 to 6 weeks. Do you have any inside information about this change un update frequency?

  • @KONCADEDESIGNSTUDIO
    @KONCADEDESIGNSTUDIO 3 місяці тому

    Hey I own DS224+ with connected to my 2nd router which is connected to my primary vis LAN port forwarded on both, Tried many other things to. I am able to host a website on my local WIFI, but no external excess. I don't have a Static IP address. Please Guide.

  • @AndreT-zq6rp
    @AndreT-zq6rp 3 місяці тому +1

    Synology Drive Deep linking only really works on phones. Not on tablets, not on computers. Can you make Synology fix/enhance deep linking on tablets and computers

  • @jeremiahbullfrog9288
    @jeremiahbullfrog9288 3 місяці тому

    Can you make a selection guide? We have a DS1515+ which won't do some of what we want (e.g. write-once) because 7.2 isn't available. I have a DS220j that won't do much of what we want (e.g. btrfs, docker) because of internal design decisions. It has been excruciating to track down why stuff isn't avalable or just doesn't work as expected, simply due to not spending enough money on a top-end device. Our DS1522+ does everything we want (so far) but it's in a remote location so not ideal.
    Now I hear rumors about being required to use Synology-branded hard drives? Getting very discouraged with this company.. but we love the platform and advertised features.
    I think a difinitive guide of what models support which features would be extremely helpful for the entire community, and I'm kind of annoyed that Synology buries this information.
    Cheers.

  • @LeaCoombe
    @LeaCoombe 3 місяці тому +3

    I Synology drive is much slower than Dropbox even on local LAN

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 3 місяці тому +2

      And less stable

    • @matteominellono
      @matteominellono 3 місяці тому +2

      It all depends on the synology model and configuration you have. With my 923+ the limit is my 2.5Gb network and over the internet is limited by my service provider upload limit (0.5Gb). Never had a stability problem with all my previous synology drive app.

  • @cyberwasp461
    @cyberwasp461 3 дні тому

    I made one a while ago for Microsoft cloud, "now One drive," but don't see it on my PC!

  • @regwatson2017
    @regwatson2017 3 місяці тому

    Any way we can get our photos out of Google Photos along the same lines ?

  • @mystvearn83
    @mystvearn83 3 місяці тому

    Any idea why drive client does not sync all the files from DSM?

  • @droneforfun5384
    @droneforfun5384 3 місяці тому +2

    The most annoying thing is when syncing to the drive folder on NAS stops (happens regulary & unpredicted) due to certificate is not trusted or certificate needs renewal. Please produce a video with easy guide on how to deal with this..

    • @mrbobo86
      @mrbobo86 3 місяці тому

      Try using Tailscale to connect all your remote devices together. As long as tailscale is running on a machine, you shouldn't have to worry about the certicates and whatnot. Once two remote desktops are connected to a Tailnet, you can just simply "add a network location" and map the drive. The same process you would use if the two computers were on local network.

  • @-musiclee-
    @-musiclee- 3 місяці тому +1

    SpaceRex, i use Dropbox for my business, we have about 7 users, with different folder access, different permissions, would be great to expand on this video here, but geared to businesses with multiple logins, folder access, etc... we on a legacy. unlimited plan, i hope this plan stays like this!! ??

    • @kristopherleslie8343
      @kristopherleslie8343 3 місяці тому

      Either you pay for users and access or hardware and control

  • @RyanHarville
    @RyanHarville 3 місяці тому

    Hey will, dumb question from me: How do I copy a file from my NAS to an external hard drive, like a SanDisk 1TB Portable one? Internet isn't helping me.

    • @rudyruiz9521
      @rudyruiz9521 3 місяці тому

      You can just copy and paste

    • @RyanHarville
      @RyanHarville 3 місяці тому

      @@rudyruiz9521 I can't, I tried. No matter what I try to copy it to, it freezes and say it can't do it.

    • @steveh8658
      @steveh8658 3 місяці тому

      To be clear, you mean copy the file from the NAS itself to a drive plugged directly into the NAS using the File Station in the DSM? Does File Station recognise the drive? Check that you can create a file on the USB drive and copy/paste it onto a shared folder on the NAS?

  • @celsiusswatt6021
    @celsiusswatt6021 4 дні тому

    I was excited by video on SynologyDrive - but in reality synchronization with Windows client does not work reliably. It shows empty folders randomly while they contain data when inspected in Web interface or when drives are shared through SMB. So you never know if the files are really synchronized or not. The web is full of notes about this issue from several years... Now I am upset...

  • @shadowarez1337
    @shadowarez1337 3 місяці тому

    Iv tried this but it requires the Synology server app and the scanning is constant to a point i have to pause suring days i actually using it because it absolutely tanks performance even with 64gb of ram and 2TB of nvme (Samsung 970 Pro x2)

  • @DataHoarders
    @DataHoarders 3 місяці тому +2

    3:38 like a boss!! 😂😂

  • @adrian10k5k
    @adrian10k5k 3 місяці тому

    Do you know how synology handles conflicts?
    Dropbox keeps both and names one of them like
    Space Rex’s conflicted copy with a date stamp
    How does synology handle that scenario?

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  3 місяці тому +1

      Basically does the same thing

  • @AaAa-je5eo
    @AaAa-je5eo 3 місяці тому

    What does everyone here think about the 'opening your NAS to the internet' concern though? Regularly on Reddit and places you see people just saying 'never expose it to the internet'. So I'm continually confused about whether to use QuickConnect or not lol.

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  3 місяці тому +1

      It all comes down to use case.
      Opening the NAS to the internet will always impose some level of risk. But its required if you want to use the NAS as a public server.
      Synology Drive is an app designed for the internet, but you need to understand that there will always be a risk of a zero day vulnerability in it.

    • @AaAa-je5eo
      @AaAa-je5eo 3 місяці тому

      ​@@SpaceRexWill I see, thanks for the clarification. Also wondered about your take on the 'Synology now not focussing on anyone but enterprise users' topic that was dicussed in the recent discussion on NAScompares channel you had. That was a long video so a lot to unpack, wondered if you had a Space Rex video planned breaking any of that down.... in the usual inimitable style! Cheers as always team Space Rex

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 3 місяці тому

      ​@@SpaceRexWillrunning Synology drive via QuickBooks does not require opening your NAS to the internet.

  • @diogomartinez7991
    @diogomartinez7991 3 місяці тому

    the suck thing is that you cant see thumbnail of pdf files

  • @matejkotnik9675
    @matejkotnik9675 3 місяці тому

    Well Drive on PC it works fine, except when i have to relogin for SSL expiring. But the Android app is BAD, it should work like Files App, no extra menues, only sharing is good, but Login fails ocasionally. I like Files and Photos app why Drive is anoying?

  • @slair76116
    @slair76116 3 місяці тому

    I hate and left dropbox too. After years of being with them. Useless customer care. Basically they dont care.

  • @xarishark
    @xarishark 3 місяці тому +10

    All this is very good but in windows Synology drive client is very unreliable. On of the worst errors that I get from my clients workstations it when the drive client crashes WITHOUT ANY MESSAGE OR INFO! Icon just goes away from the bottom right and you have no clear indication why it crashed on the log file. its far from stable for a work enviroment IMO. Also no autoupdate of the client and absolute trash management when it comes to invalid files etc. Another known problem is that windows image viewer errors out if you open large pictures in a folder set to work under synology drive. On the mac is super easy to setup team folders as they are set with one click while in windows you have to connect each folder one by one. I love synology but sometimes I dont believe how obvious some of their software problems are. To be fare I have a pretty large sample size of over 500 workstations spanning over multiple servers. So I have a statistically higher chance to have problems compared to others.

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 3 місяці тому +1

      I set it up on three machines and it's f*ing up already.

    • @r4ymaster
      @r4ymaster 3 місяці тому

      Me and about 10 other users are using it (different Win OS), I have it installed on each of my devices (5+), it's been working perfectly, set it and forget it type of thing. Don't know what to tell you other than if you used the same Windows image to install each of those computers. Or maybe it could be some security tightening you did on your network.

    • @deanburnett4595
      @deanburnett4595 3 місяці тому

      There are people still in airports trying to fly on planes who can't because of auto update. Auto update is bad.

    • @xarishark
      @xarishark 3 місяці тому +1

      @@r4ymaster Microsoft serves the same windows image to everyone for years now. If I don’t have errors from either of the three cloud storage providers and I have them with synology driver in then something is going on. I don’t know what your sample size and what your file type bulk is either. Happy for you that it works.

    • @xarishark
      @xarishark 3 місяці тому

      @@deanburnett4595 yeah you are right because obviously everything in your station runs in ring 0 access….

  • @Carittech
    @Carittech 3 місяці тому

    This is funny, DropBox is forcing users to lock into their system, meanwhile Synology is locking individuals into “Synology drives” . To be clear ; I’m not endorsing Dropbox.

    • @ZackyVillain
      @ZackyVillain 2 місяці тому

      Synology drives are local in the end. And increasing capacity is basically users choose to buy more physical drives.

  • @RogierYou
    @RogierYou Місяць тому

    Dropbox used to be great but not suckssssssss

  • @byrd203
    @byrd203 3 місяці тому

    Dropbox standard is for home and bussiness that you did normal file sharing righting file share Dropbox for teams is where you setup team folders at the root level of the file structure normal is for sharing that's in your private folder team root share dtropbox your name then share ok private share you give links to

    • @paulanderson3898
      @paulanderson3898 3 місяці тому +3

      I have a headache just trying to read this.

    • @byrd203
      @byrd203 3 місяці тому

      @@paulanderson3898@paulanderson3898 what I mean is if your business account is the Dropbox in the app is, say, your user account, like user Sam, that's his private folder and subfolders teams are the shared folders like Synology team folders and Dropbox is just a normal folder, and you share a subfolder for one purpose. team folders are made at root level of the space dropbox folders are made from subfolders like sam the documents documents then team folder is like create a folder called work at main of Drive E or D Work that the company has access too basically windows file server folders are team folders

    • @DavidM2002
      @DavidM2002 3 місяці тому +1

      @@paulanderson3898 You too huh...

  • @nds6767
    @nds6767 3 місяці тому

    This kinda sounds like Apple

  • @mitchellsmith4601
    @mitchellsmith4601 3 місяці тому +2

    I love your channel, but it’s “exorbitant” not “absorbitant” which isn’t a word.

    • @regwatson2017
      @regwatson2017 3 місяці тому +1

      I thought he meant an expensive way of absorbing information.😅

    • @ltlking
      @ltlking 3 місяці тому +2

      Appreciate your comment, Mitchell, but the proper grammatical use of commas would be: "I love your channel, but it's 'exorbitant,' not 'absorbitant,' which isn't a word." 😉

    • @regwatson2017
      @regwatson2017 3 місяці тому

      @@ltlking Actually no it wouldn't be. He's not quoting something someone else said so his use of double parentheses to highlight the two different words was correct.

    • @ryanw8664
      @ryanw8664 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@regwatson2017 I was referring to his omission of commas in several places, not his use of double quotation marks, which I assume you meant to say rather than "double parentheses." Like you said, his use of double quotation marks was correct. To further clarify, I used single quotation marks for the internal quote and double quotation marks for the overall statement since I was quoting him quoting someone else. Anyways, this all misses the forrest for the trees, lol. I'm pointing out the irony of someone correcting another person's vocabulary while not writing with proper grammar themselves. People in glass houses, y'know?