i'm following Pig and another sc2 channel and while watching this match, i also got a notification from the other channel spoiling the result of this match. lol
I think you might be overselling Clem's ability to beat serral. At least according to liquidpedia before this tournament just the year Serral is 4-2 in series and after this tourney well... I mean tbf other than literally Solar that might be the highest win rate of anyone vs serral. Also correct me if I'm wrong but outside team league I believe Clem is the only Terran this year to have beaten Serral (even in team league I think he's only drawn vs Terran).
didn't want to spoil myself on the results so I couldn't look up stats before casting this. Checking now Serral's been destroying the last year or so, 2021 was the year where Clem beat Serral super consistently - but Serral seems to have evolved and has so many new builds and styles now, all of which are giving Clem trouble
@@PiGCasts yeah I mean Clem is still doing the best out of any Terran as outside of team league I think Clem is the only Terran this year to have beaten Serral. (I don't keep enough track of team league to reliably say that no Terran has beaten him).
I hate when ppl compare white in chess as a disadvantage for black. Understand that the game is still a draw from the start with perfect play. The reason white is said to have the advantage is because they get to set the pace. Even though they are technically the attackers there isn't a way to actually break through blacks defense.
@@kingsgambit7098all what you said was wrong. If you want to talk about human perspective, white has by far a best winrate because of the 1 tempo advantage. If we talk about machine perspective, we still dont have enough technologies and power to do what we theorically call (solving the chess problem). If you talk about a mathematical point of view, we have no proof of that too. So can you bring your facts on the table and enlight us with your informations?
@GhostStyle007 This should be easy as I have been playing chess for over a decade. From a humans perspective, chess is very similar to tic tac toe. There are several ways to draw and only one way to win. You have a stalemate, 3 fold repetitions, perpetual checks, and insufficient material. You can only win by checkmating your opponent. From an engines' point of view, white only has a .5 advantage from the start. This isn't enough to win. You need a clear 2 point lead to be a victory. If you match the same engine against itself, it will almost always be a draw. From a mathematical standpoint, chess has been solved on a 7 piece table base. That is over 18 TB of storage and 423,836,835,667,331 positions. Too go a bit further. Past world champion, including Bobby Fischer and even dating back to José Raúl Capablanca, has suggested increasing the size of the chess board because of how drawish it is in the professional field. So to sum that up for you....History and our current understanding of chess suggest that it is very much a draw from the start. You are more than welcome to show me the facts of why white is winning. In fact, you can play as white and I will gladly give you that lesson myself.
At this point zerg vs terran became way too imbalanced in term of "efforts you need to do to win". As a zerg you are constantly on a clock, you need to breakdown terran economy, you need to cut the rally point, you need to constantly overwhelm your terran enemy. If you dont play with x10 terran's player brain, you simply get oberwhelmed by mass marines and mules. Btw im not a zerg main, i play random... and i did the same comment when zerg was too op
@@GhostStyle007 Do you consider Serral to have 10 times Clem's brain and be that much faster vs the fastest terran ? I disagree. I think Serral is better at adapting his gameplay and that's what he has done and succeed, and other zergs may not have adapted their gameplay. Btw Clem is the best sc2 player vs zerg if you look at Aligulac
Even though the Terrans are the most OP race in Starcraft and with each balance patch the Terran players cry a little more and ruin the game more, the Terras are even more disgusting.
i'm following Pig and another sc2 channel and while watching this match, i also got a notification from the other channel spoiling the result of this match. lol
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I lose track too, sometimes watching series already casted here.
50:53 "Even with no medivacs Clem is still shoving the front, cuz the man is a PSYCHOPAATT!" 🤣🤣
44:18
Bear is around 300kg/600lb, and house cat is around 5kg/12lb.
So it's about 1:60.
haha thanks mate!
The thumbnail had me laughing. Thanks pig you’re a G!
My favorite PSYCHOPATH !!!!!! Yeah bb ! Vive La France ! Thnx PiG !
Hotkeying ebays can help to keep up upgrades while microing
1/200 bear to cat ratio is pretty accurate i think haha
Man Kaduseus reactor would have been great for clem in that last game. His medivacs were always low on energy
Have you seen his series vs serral this week?
Game 2 is GotY worthy.
Clem peaks at 1000APM as a Terran.
I think you might be overselling Clem's ability to beat serral. At least according to liquidpedia before this tournament just the year Serral is 4-2 in series and after this tourney well... I mean tbf other than literally Solar that might be the highest win rate of anyone vs serral. Also correct me if I'm wrong but outside team league I believe Clem is the only Terran this year to have beaten Serral (even in team league I think he's only drawn vs Terran).
didn't want to spoil myself on the results so I couldn't look up stats before casting this. Checking now Serral's been destroying the last year or so, 2021 was the year where Clem beat Serral super consistently - but Serral seems to have evolved and has so many new builds and styles now, all of which are giving Clem trouble
@@PiGCasts yeah I mean Clem is still doing the best out of any Terran as outside of team league I think Clem is the only Terran this year to have beaten Serral. (I don't keep enough track of team league to reliably say that no Terran has beaten him).
Damn,
Clem made Reynor look like a newb.
clem offense one speed vs reynor greed build one speed. who wins.
I hate when ppl compare white in chess as a disadvantage for black. Understand that the game is still a draw from the start with perfect play. The reason white is said to have the advantage is because they get to set the pace. Even though they are technically the attackers there isn't a way to actually break through blacks defense.
you don't know that
that was never proved
@@davidemoro8376 That has been a fact for decades.
@@kingsgambit7098all what you said was wrong.
If you want to talk about human perspective, white has by far a best winrate because of the 1 tempo advantage.
If we talk about machine perspective, we still dont have enough technologies and power to do what we theorically call (solving the chess problem).
If you talk about a mathematical point of view, we have no proof of that too. So can you bring your facts on the table and enlight us with your informations?
@GhostStyle007 This should be easy as I have been playing chess for over a decade.
From a humans perspective, chess is very similar to tic tac toe. There are several ways to draw and only one way to win. You have a stalemate, 3 fold repetitions, perpetual checks, and insufficient material. You can only win by checkmating your opponent.
From an engines' point of view, white only has a .5 advantage from the start. This isn't enough to win. You need a clear 2 point lead to be a victory. If you match the same engine against itself, it will almost always be a draw.
From a mathematical standpoint, chess has been solved on a 7 piece table base. That is over 18 TB of storage and 423,836,835,667,331 positions.
Too go a bit further. Past world champion, including Bobby Fischer and even dating back to José Raúl Capablanca, has suggested increasing the size of the chess board because of how drawish it is in the professional field.
So to sum that up for you....History and our current understanding of chess suggest that it is very much a draw from the start. You are more than welcome to show me the facts of why white is winning. In fact, you can play as white and I will gladly give you that lesson myself.
At this point zerg vs terran became way too imbalanced in term of "efforts you need to do to win". As a zerg you are constantly on a clock, you need to breakdown terran economy, you need to cut the rally point, you need to constantly overwhelm your terran enemy. If you dont play with x10 terran's player brain, you simply get oberwhelmed by mass marines and mules. Btw im not a zerg main, i play random... and i did the same comment when zerg was too op
How do you explain Serral's win over Clem twice ?
@@ChristopheLB you may need to read my comment again
@@GhostStyle007 Do you consider Serral to have 10 times Clem's brain and be that much faster vs the fastest terran ? I disagree. I think Serral is better at adapting his gameplay and that's what he has done and succeed, and other zergs may not have adapted their gameplay. Btw Clem is the best sc2 player vs zerg if you look at Aligulac
Remember when this game had 3 races instead of just 2? RIP last patch
Even though the Terrans are the most OP race in Starcraft and with each balance patch the Terran players cry a little more and ruin the game more, the Terras are even more disgusting.
Idk Zerg always seems OP
You can't group clem with "terrans". You don't play terrans this good.
Everyone plays Terran well MMM come on there is no going to university to play Terran clem lover🙄
Also, if I have to play Terran, I uninstall the game, that's disgusting.
Zerg OP 😝
terran imba :)