After many years away from Azeroth, I've just rolled a rogue in SoD and it's honestly the most fun I've had in WoW since my very first stealthy adventures back in the vanilla days. A bunch of us from way back when have reformed our guild and are venturing into Sunken Temple having a blast. It is so great not only to relive many of the immersive feelings of a whole world to explore, to have time to actually read quest texts and feel nervous venturing into Stranglethorn a bit underleveled, but also rekindle many friendships and make new ones a long the way. I just wanna say thank you to Simonize for all the great content, and the knowledge and enthusiasm you have for the game and the class. I am relearning how to rogue, and this is a great inspiration and help. Keep up the great work!
LOL I am loving the content!!! I have to give you massive props for giving links to EVERY topic that goes into crazy detail! Took me a couple hours to watch this video cause I kept pausing and watching more about what you just talked about!
I think you forgot Devilsaur. Even if we dont know how good it will be in SOD/P4 - currently the Leather is sold between 10-20g a piece - if it turns out to be good, the price will rise dramatically. I would be prudent to farm your 22 leathers or purchase them when they are low, ready to either dump them quick if dsaur is outclassed or use them for your dsaur set for crafting. As a grp with a skinner, the Dsaurs can be easily farmed in Ungoro and there is not much competition comparatively.
Yeah me and a buddy have been farming them here and there on my server, seem to be entirely uncontested and as an elemental sham and assa rogue we can handle them easily as a duo, leather fairly steady at 15g on my server and the crafted pieces already selling for 200g+
@@Muranight The damage has been done in a lot of cases though. Phase 3 has been a disaster, it has destroyed small guild/friend groups as well as the casual PUG nature of SoD.. now it feels more like a regimented structured game which frankly most people don't want from an MMO in 2024. Let's not even talk about the disaster that have been incursions, pumping in gold into the economy and inflating people's hard fought earnings into nothing.
If you want to save a lot of gold in p4 regarding thorium brotherhood, don't do the quests except the one that unlocks the repeatable ones which is the plan you have to loot next to Maltorius. I mean you can do the quests but don't turn them in until you get honored. To get friendly it's a bit expensive but nothing compared to what will come at honored. From friendly to honored it's a joke you can complete it very cheap and once honored you can turn in the quests. It's very profitable to do it this phase as we are stuck level 50 and don't get penalty reputation from being too high level for these quests. Btw we can't do the repeatable quests in BRD to get past honored if you wonder yet, only thing you can do is save up dark iron ores or bloods of the mountain for now
THE ALCHEMY TRAINER IN SILITHUS IS NOT AVAILABLE IN P3! So i think there is a HIGH chance that t.05 will not be available as they said they wanted to make mc a 20 man raid with new t1 sets, so they would have to make whole new t0.5 sets to keep up/ not make them useless anyway becaue the t1 sets will be proably much easier to get and better. so i do not see a chance of them being in there at p4 launch. t.05 was originally added for players which do not had the time to raid as some kind of "catch-up" mechanic for players.
I would love to do the prep simon and I believe they are good advices. But as an alliance hunter on lone wolf, I really doubt about the future, economy is still fucked, my server population was cut in half since phase 3, my class is getting nerf every phases, pvp factions are terribly unbalanced.
Very informative but alot of the rep stuff and all maybe useless but we will see! Hopefully they buff the stuff to keep it up to par with sod gear. Same with .5 tier.
From what i understand, we need to farm the blood heroes with an alchemist toon, am i right? since they are bind on pickup and needed for the ZG quest.
Not entirely necessary but in every iteration of Classic WoW, I make absolute bank by buying up Nature/Frost resistance items before the demand goes through the roof. And with the staggered level caps, Fire res items on my server are selling for almost nothing. But when people discover for the 50th time in 20 years that you need Fire Resistance to kill ol' Ragnaros...
I have a Question witch is the better rune for Multilate Focus Attacks or Combat Potency. Because you use the second and in Warcraft Logs the first 20 Top Rogues use Focus Attacks.
wondering if you have just a written list of all items that will be needed next phase so i can see what not to vendor/sell/delete. if not i'll make my own
i'd love to see them do something with thorium brotherhood and that fire resist gear but as it stands they cant even get tanks to build stam let alone bring elemental resist gear because it doesnt look as good on their WCL social credit score
I'm a full stam and reduction tank 79% reductions, 18% dodge, 8k hp buffed. I'm like a wall when melee run into me lol. I also already am building my fire resis set. I like to make my healers life easier over doing a couple hundred more dps.
@@evildark940 healers will regularly be like "i love this tank" while i'm leveling up my deep prot pali in dungeons. what this does in a 10-20-40 man context is unreal. you cannot trust pug healers to really heal you in the first place, why make your healing burden greater? it really makes no sense if your goal is to clear the content comfortably
Man... I hope they remove/change all the annoyances to get raiding. For the other things that require 1000s of items for rep or whatever, no thanks, I'm fine with the second best thing simply dropping from a raid/dungeon boss lol.
I have maxed out alchemy on my rogue - I hate paying for consumes. As a second main profession do you recommend learherworking or engineering for my rogue tank?
I’d say leatherworking for rogues generally but as a tank engineering is good for added aoe threat, I’d wait til we see what’s coming in phase 4, fingers crossed we finally get Fan of Knives and if that’s the case it might be safe to pass on engi
I just have a hard time believing any of this prep is necessary, theres most certainly going to be some crazy catch-up gear and whatever new raid released is going to be 1. Piss easy 2. Invalidating all of this pre-existing stuff I think blizzard lost the plot woth SoD, I'll def be enjoying cata soon though
Is it worth going through all the hassle to get darkmantle when nightslayer should be decent to get? What about strong non-dungeon set items that rival some of those pieces like the exalted wsg legs?
I logged into cata for the first time in months to find that my server is empty. Blizzard offered free transfer but only to 3 mega servers so thats where the journey ends.
Heads up that 0.5T is not worth unless your indeed a Rogue like Simonize here. Other classes rarely bother with this set in Classic Era and in SoD Im sure they will buff dungeon items which will make the 0.5 an "alternative" for other classes but a must have for Rogues due to the proc set effect.
There is a good chance they willl buff the T0.5 sets, because blizzard knows it will keep players busy and its lazy content creation just to tinker with some item set values to keep the entire questline still relevant in SOD
@@flagermusen true but then again they are buffing MC loot and T1 bonuses will change so most likely that will be BIS for most but maybe not... However that 0.5T is a very long grind for most people and gold sink dont forget that
I think it's 480 dense grinding stones, not 320. Before people go ahead and choose an option that might not be the cheapest one!
That is correct, oops
After many years away from Azeroth, I've just rolled a rogue in SoD and it's honestly the most fun I've had in WoW since my very first stealthy adventures back in the vanilla days. A bunch of us from way back when have reformed our guild and are venturing into Sunken Temple having a blast. It is so great not only to relive many of the immersive feelings of a whole world to explore, to have time to actually read quest texts and feel nervous venturing into Stranglethorn a bit underleveled, but also rekindle many friendships and make new ones a long the way. I just wanna say thank you to Simonize for all the great content, and the knowledge and enthusiasm you have for the game and the class. I am relearning how to rogue, and this is a great inspiration and help. Keep up the great work!
That's dope. I'm playing a rogue too, and it's for the first time, and yeah it's a blast
you missed out. Classic was way better than sod and there was an actual population as opposed to the dead sod servers
Good choice in toon
LOL I am loving the content!!! I have to give you massive props for giving links to EVERY topic that goes into crazy detail! Took me a couple hours to watch this video cause I kept pausing and watching more about what you just talked about!
Simonize you were so right. I watched this video and feel like a fool for not investing heavy in 0.5 questline mats. Video aged very well
Simonize ty your videos are good and really help a lot.
I think you forgot Devilsaur. Even if we dont know how good it will be in SOD/P4 - currently the Leather is sold between 10-20g a piece - if it turns out to be good, the price will rise dramatically.
I would be prudent to farm your 22 leathers or purchase them when they are low, ready to either dump them quick if dsaur is outclassed or use them for your dsaur set for crafting. As a grp with a skinner, the Dsaurs can be easily farmed in Ungoro and there is not much competition comparatively.
Yeah me and a buddy have been farming them here and there on my server, seem to be entirely uncontested and as an elemental sham and assa rogue we can handle them easily as a duo, leather fairly steady at 15g on my server and the crafted pieces already selling for 200g+
Flask of Supreme power for the Darkmantle set can be prepped also minus the Black Lotus, 30 Dreamfoil 10 Mountain Silversage and a Crystal Vile
Thanks brother ur videos are second to none.
Let's hope there's a playerbase left by phase four.
Trust me there will be.. phase 4 whats it all about
Lv 60 is when everyone comes back
@@Muranight The damage has been done in a lot of cases though. Phase 3 has been a disaster, it has destroyed small guild/friend groups as well as the casual PUG nature of SoD.. now it feels more like a regimented structured game which frankly most people don't want from an MMO in 2024. Let's not even talk about the disaster that have been incursions, pumping in gold into the economy and inflating people's hard fought earnings into nothing.
@@ripped6938 p4 is not the last phase, there will be 3 more phaseses including 6, and maybe 1 more if we have naxxramas.
@@brelshar4968 the myth of sod being targeted only towards casual players IS something that us so annoying
Can you even turn in 500 Plumes before hitting the rep limit?
You can prepare so much for the next Ågade with grinding on stuff, thet you forget to have fun
I hope there will be a classic+ in my case the level 1-25 experience was the most wholsome one.
Thank you so much!
If you want to save a lot of gold in p4 regarding thorium brotherhood, don't do the quests except the one that unlocks the repeatable ones which is the plan you have to loot next to Maltorius. I mean you can do the quests but don't turn them in until you get honored. To get friendly it's a bit expensive but nothing compared to what will come at honored. From friendly to honored it's a joke you can complete it very cheap and once honored you can turn in the quests. It's very profitable to do it this phase as we are stuck level 50 and don't get penalty reputation from being too high level for these quests.
Btw we can't do the repeatable quests in BRD to get past honored if you wonder yet, only thing you can do is save up dark iron ores or bloods of the mountain for now
Simonize is my goat
THE ALCHEMY TRAINER IN SILITHUS IS NOT AVAILABLE IN P3! So i think there is a HIGH chance that t.05 will not be available as they said they wanted to make mc a 20 man raid with new t1 sets, so they would have to make whole new t0.5 sets to keep up/ not make them useless anyway becaue the t1 sets will be proably much easier to get and better. so i do not see a chance of them being in there at p4 launch. t.05 was originally added for players which do not had the time to raid as some kind of "catch-up" mechanic for players.
I would love to do the prep simon and I believe they are good advices. But as an alliance hunter on lone wolf, I really doubt about the future, economy is still fucked, my server population was cut in half since phase 3, my class is getting nerf every phases, pvp factions are terribly unbalanced.
Very informative but alot of the rep stuff and all maybe useless but we will see! Hopefully they buff the stuff to keep it up to par with sod gear. Same with .5 tier.
crazy guide thanks a lot
You wear the best hats.
From what i understand, we need to farm the blood heroes with an alchemist toon, am i right? since they are bind on pickup and needed for the ZG quest.
Yes you’ll want to either be an alchemist or bring your guilds alchemist with you to pick them up as they are bind on pickup like you said
Is there anywhere we can find the best 20 pre-quest we can hold and turn in when p4 comes out ?
Bro thank you!
Hi @SimonizeShow, I downloaded your weakaura rogue but I have a problem, the poison stacks are not displayed... Can you help me?
Are you gonna play cats and if so please put together a rogue guide we need you !
Are all these bis boes and dm cards worth getting anymore. Or to farm up and save gold for p4?
Not entirely necessary but in every iteration of Classic WoW, I make absolute bank by buying up Nature/Frost resistance items before the demand goes through the roof. And with the staggered level caps, Fire res items on my server are selling for almost nothing. But when people discover for the 50th time in 20 years that you need Fire Resistance to kill ol' Ragnaros...
was that a full rogue raid in nax?
I have a Question witch is the better rune for Multilate Focus Attacks or Combat Potency. Because you use the second and in Warcraft Logs the first 20 Top Rogues use Focus Attacks.
pve guide video explains rune choices: ua-cam.com/video/qhV1grszdYE/v-deo.html
Love your stuff Simon, but I gotta say, would be nice if you at least glanced at the camera from time to time.
wondering if you have just a written list of all items that will be needed next phase so i can see what not to vendor/sell/delete. if not i'll make my own
i'd love to see them do something with thorium brotherhood and that fire resist gear but as it stands they cant even get tanks to build stam let alone bring elemental resist gear because it doesnt look as good on their WCL social credit score
I'm a full stam and reduction tank 79% reductions, 18% dodge, 8k hp buffed. I'm like a wall when melee run into me lol. I also already am building my fire resis set. I like to make my healers life easier over doing a couple hundred more dps.
@@evildark940 healers will regularly be like "i love this tank" while i'm leveling up my deep prot pali in dungeons. what this does in a 10-20-40 man context is unreal. you cannot trust pug healers to really heal you in the first place, why make your healing burden greater? it really makes no sense if your goal is to clear the content comfortably
I think you can't get the WSG leggings until AQ-patch.
Man... I hope they remove/change all the annoyances to get raiding. For the other things that require 1000s of items for rep or whatever, no thanks, I'm fine with the second best thing simply dropping from a raid/dungeon boss lol.
I have maxed out alchemy on my rogue - I hate paying for consumes.
As a second main profession do you recommend learherworking or engineering for my rogue tank?
I’d say leatherworking for rogues generally but as a tank engineering is good for added aoe threat, I’d wait til we see what’s coming in phase 4, fingers crossed we finally get Fan of Knives and if that’s the case it might be safe to pass on engi
Thanks that was kinda where I was leaning as well, cheers.
Simonize has more hats than he does sweat for SOD.
Cant connect to your Discord
went out to farm plumes and theres already 4 people out here, damn it simonize
yay simon time
In SoD, the AB 3 pieces are no longer a set it seems
they are but for lvl 60 only
I just have a hard time believing any of this prep is necessary, theres most certainly going to be some crazy catch-up gear and whatever new raid released is going to be
1. Piss easy
2. Invalidating all of this pre-existing stuff
I think blizzard lost the plot woth SoD, I'll def be enjoying cata soon though
Any cata content?
the man, the myth, the legend
I have bought over 40k elemental earth for an avg of 8s. Im gonna be a billionare.
Is it worth going through all the hassle to get darkmantle when nightslayer should be decent to get? What about strong non-dungeon set items that rival some of those pieces like the exalted wsg legs?
blizzard should throw a curve ball tho, so you cant prepare for nothing
ANNNDDD moments after this video dark iron ore went from 25 silver per this morning to 2 gold per THANKS FOR RUINING THE PRICES!
are you gonna do a guide for cata? or will only focus on sod
See now, Simon, if you had joined our raid the other night you would have had Silithus video content for your video. :)
yeah but i used 15 rogue, 0 healer, 0 tank cthun kill instead. its not perfect, but it IS a thing of beauty.
Yes, a totally out of context thing of beauty. :) @@SimonizeShow
Is phase 4 just going to be molten core or is it gonna be more then that?
Molten core and onyxya for sure, maybe something more
@@Muranight There has to be something custom as well. Maybe Karazhan crypts or SM.
@@armor2344new incursions
Hi Simon, do you have a video for solo players?
I ain’t doin allat
Do you think theyll make the game good this patch
You're a legend.
Deliana isnt even there wtf
Cant buy legins now
I dont think any of this will be relevant. current gear is better than gear from MC and ZG. there are some upgrades like weapons but thats it
Ok bet. When phase 4 goes live and not a single thing in this video is relevant I'll remember this comment and how you were right.
@@SimonizeShow you dont have to wait. current gear is better than classic 60 gear. all that shit is going to change and they have said so already
PTR is out today. Looks like you're wrong.
@@SimonizeShow and is it the same gear?
Amazing vid. Can't wait for 60, this game needs to progress faster!
nope. looking at this is already draining me from phase 4.
why is it so blurry rofl
I havent logged in a week lmaoo
Seems daunting and makes me not even want to play p4 😅
I'll be honest. I don't want to do any of this. I just wanna play the game and raid. Without putting in a week playtime to prepare.
game feels like such a chore jesus christ, if it aint one thing its the next... and people say theres nothing to do LOL
omg the char modle is so fuglyyyy ! imagine paying tha price for a minor dps increase! :(
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Unpopular opinion: Cata pre-patch > SoD P3. Really hoping P4 makes the game fun again.
i enjoyed p3 but my friend stopped playing so ive just been leveling a goblin on cata
Cata looks trash
I logged into cata for the first time in months to find that my server is empty. Blizzard offered free transfer but only to 3 mega servers so thats where the journey ends.
@@brandonwilson4740 yeah thats a big problem, i have my wotlk char stuck at an empty fresh server that completely died
Yea doing 1 bg for 40 levels waaaay better than new raid/level cap
Can we just let this die out already😭😭😭 sod is so trash pretty sure only boomers enjoy this.. put the resources into cata
have fun with your $ store mounts, $ character boost, $ wow token to buy gold, $ race change to new OP race
Cata isn’t even that hard and it’s super fun. Don’t miss out!
Heads up that 0.5T is not worth unless your indeed a Rogue like Simonize here. Other classes rarely bother with this set in Classic Era and in SoD Im sure they will buff dungeon items which will make the 0.5 an "alternative" for other classes but a must have for Rogues due to the proc set effect.
or they buff the T0.5 to make it more viable for other classes in the same vein as updating straight up boss drops - either way is a gamble
There is a good chance they willl buff the T0.5 sets, because blizzard knows it will keep players busy and its lazy content creation just to tinker with some item set values to keep the entire questline still relevant in SOD
@@flagermusen true but then again they are buffing MC loot and T1 bonuses will change so most likely that will be BIS for most but maybe not... However that 0.5T is a very long grind for most people and gold sink dont forget that
It’s definitely more than likely to be revamped for at least a few more classes.
@@flagermusen sad but true