S3 E22. WE ROAD TEST 670 cc PREDATOR V TWIN POWERED 1969 RENAULT
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2023
- Season 3 Episode 22 We take the 670 cc Predator powered Renault on its first complete road test. How fast and how many MPG ?.
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HERE WE GO, FIRST BUILD likely to end up FASTER THAN STOCK!
I doubt that. The engine that came out of it was twice the size.
@@bradleyj.fortner2203ruh it was a renault engine, there's a certified 97% chance that at least a cylinder has no compression lmao
@@Fred_the_1996 That's a good point.
@@bradleyj.fortner2203the original motor had only 46hp and a full modified predator with turbo can do 60+hp, yeah it can be faster.
@@GODAXEN exactly. I remember those from growing up in 60s Israel and they were no ball of fire even for that time. There was an 8 Gordini but that is another story altogether...
I work at a Harbor Freight. I've told everyone I work with about this project and they've all been extremely interested, even the non-technical folks. You're doing an awesome thing to help us retail workers - the interest you provide gets people itching to try their projects. And oh wow do I love hearing about neat projects that are going on around me...
Not gonna lie: I've been debating grabbing the 420cc version and building a go-kart. His videos have been great.
Yeah this channel goes a great job of tickling the imagination!
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I've got a 224cc powered mini bike on 22 inch all terrain tires helluva lot of fun 👌 second engine from harbor freight.
7:17 An hour is also 60 minutes in the rest of the world, but I love your dedication to converting things for the metric crowd.
Speaking of which, our convection oven at work was over-cooking everything...I simply told them someone set it to metric minutes instead of SAE minutes....sometimes you just can't help but screw with people's brains...what was worse was one of our managers went in the office to call the service tech and she began telling him that the oven was set to metric minutes...oh the shades of red she turned when the service tech laughed at her and then she finally realized I told her a BS story and worse her blond self believed it.
The metric crowd needs all the help they can get.
What's wrong with the metric crowd? You do realize metric is used in most countries, don't you?
@@joewoodchuck3824 He's right: one of the most annoying snobs are metric snobs.
@@grandrapids57 We're not snobs, but it is frustrating to work with anti metric people who turn their backs on an easier and more interrelated system and instead push for a more complicated and antiquated system of mixed units. But that's up to you, not us who are with the vast majority of the world.
A special "Thank You!" to whoever does your audio mixing. Clarity, proper levels, use of "ducking", etc. I didn't have to scramble for the volume controls. The efforts are noticed and appreciated!
This should be interesting, I know they are getting significantly more power out of those predator engines relatively cheaply. I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being more capable than the original engine.
I believe there are alot of after market cams and stuff to really kick up the HP in those engines
The stock 670 makes about 30hp
Stock renult about 45
People hit well over 50-60 on turbo 670s
They're using aftermarket cranks,billet rods,billet flywheels,aftermarket coils,valves and springs, and doubling the hp and torque #s for these predator v twins,as well as pretty much all single cylinder gas engines such as briggs,tecumseh,predator,etc.. Some builds can get as pricey as 2 large while others can be done on a budget using parts from other engines or sourced second hand..
Not to mention he said the original engine was a 4cyl, probably a cast iron engine, the predator engine is probably half the weight less or mabe even more than that. power/weight ratio
@@MyLonewolf25Stock is actually around 22hp
You got a good laugh out of me at 7:16 “it’s too hot to sit in the car for over an hour (60 mins)”
This is the best quirky channel on youtube. I literally get so excited every time I see a new video. You rock!
To the 8 people out there how can you dislike this god tier content
Hi, and let me expound on some insider information. In 1970 I was the manager of a Renault dealer and here is some dope on the R 10. This model was the end result of a line of similar Renaults. The R 10 was a more/less great little car. Directly competitive to a VW Bug @ $1799.00 it (in my opinion) far superior to it. (1) A real heater due to being water cooled. (2) mileage was slightly better usually about 40 MPG. (3) a huge front trunk, really large. (4) a far better ride. (5) At the time all French cars rode better than any other import. (6) The seats were exceptionally great with very good adjustments and a roomier back seat. Engine was tried/true 4 cyl with a smooth 4 speed transmission. I don't remember any particular reverse problems though. AC was available but slowed the performance considerably as was the auto trans. It was a joke!!!! We had a only one and it spent a lot of time in the shop. Sort of a standard manual with an electric shifting process. We seems to be successful in our sales promotion of letting a potential customer keep a car over night rather that a short trip around the block. Getting to know the car usually resulted in a sale (we threw in a radio). However, the company left the rear wheel drive for the new front wheel drive R 12 and the R 16 "big car" . The R16 actually had a longer wheel base on one side then the other. Difficult to explain that one although it made no difference in ride. This was the time Subaru was just moving into this country giving real competition in the market. We had looked into Subaru but both the owner and I moved on to other businesses. My humble opinion the R10 was fine buy at that price and did not seem to suffer as much in N.E. rust. Good luck with your channel.
I'm guessing the different wheelbase from one side to the other was a quirk of suspension design. Did they have torsion bar rear suspension? If the torsion bar for each axle goes the full width of the car the rear wheels need to be staggered a little so that there is room for both torsion bars under the vehicle.
Great info! Very cool!
“Make improvements, not excuses. Seek respect, not attention.”
Keep going, Jimbo. You have our respect so far.
yes, indeed.
The question sometimes comes up === How to read a book??
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Also included is instruction in the different techniques that work best for reading particular genres, such as practical books, imaginative literature, plays, poetry, history, science and mathematics, philosophy and social science works.
Finally, the authors offer a recommended reading list and supply reading tests you can use measure your own progress in reading skills, comprehension, and speed.
I have always had a nagging feeling that I didn’t know how to read well. This book showed me that I was right. But it also showed me that I wasn’t expected to know how to read well (not with the kind of education most of us receive) and that I wasn’t alone in my ignorance. Reading well involves hard work and precise skills. This book provides the latter - the former is up to us.
We take reading for granted because we are supposed to be fully alphabetised at around tenth grade. We are not told that this is just the first level of reading - Elementary Reading (Part 1, Ch. 3) - when you learn to recognise the written symbols and to convey meaning from them. You learn how to grow your vocabulary on your own and to transfer and compare concepts from different reading materials. But most of us stop there. And from there we live the rest of our lives treating books in undeserving ways, wasting too much time on the bad ones and granting so little time to the good ones. The great ones, we hardly read, because they scare us.
The problem of wasting time can be drastically diminished by applying the second level of reading - Inspectional Reading (Part 1, Ch. 4). This level means “skimming systematically” to grasp as much as you can from a book in a limited time-frame (possibly just a few minutes). That was an important skill on Adler and Doren’s time when libraries were the norm, but it is even more important now when you have digital previews of a plethora of books in services such as Amazon. If “Customer’s Review” sections existed during their time, I am sure they would also have devoted a portion of Chapter 4 to provide insights on how to better profit from them.
The problem of spending little time on the good (or great) books can only be solved by the third level of reading - Analytical reading (Part 2). Without it, you either refrain from reading a good book altogether (specially a great one) or you read it badly. “Reading badly”, the book explains, is to read passively. Reading analytically is very active and it is hard work. To help us in this endeavour, the book provides extensive advice on how to physically mark the books we read (Part 1, Ch. 5). These note-taking techniques are indispensable to read well and the reader is advised to experiment with them and adapt them to his own style of understanding and to the new types of media now available.
To read analytically you have to ask yourself a number of questions while reading and you must make your best to answer them yourself. The authors present these questions in sequence, but they are quick to explain that in practice (and with experience) we should try to answer them mostly simultaneously.
First, you need to know what the book is about as a whole (Ch. 6 and Ch. 7). This means first categorising the book, then expressing its unity in as few words as possible. You should then proceed to outline its main parts, each of which should be treated as a subordinate whole and have its unity also expressed. This process could continue ad aeternum, but “the degree of approximation varies with the character of the book and your purpose in reading it”. At the end, you should have identified what questions the author wants to answer himself.
After this more “descriptive” stage, you should now try to grasp the author’s message (Ch. 8 and Ch. 9). This means first reconciling the grammatical and the logical aspects of what he writes by matching his chosen words with the terms they express. Only then you can identify the important sentences and paragraphs (the grammatical units) in order to establish the author’s leading propositions and arguments (the units of thought and knowledge - the logical units). Once you have reached actual understanding by identifying and interpreting the author’s terms, propositions and arguments, you can now evaluate if the author has answered the questions (the problems) you identified earlier.
You and the author are now peers and the best thing you can do now is to praise him by criticising his book (Ch. 10 and Ch. 11). However, in order to do so, there are rules, just like there are rules to reach understanding - there is an intellectual etiquette grounded on rhetorical skills the reader must possess. You should understand first and only then criticise, but not contentiously or disputatiously. You may disagree based on the author’s lack of information, misinformation or reasoning fallacies. You may also judge the author’s completeness as faulty. But the most important maxim is to do so with the sole intention of conveying and discussing knowledge, not opinions. “Knowledge consists in those opinions that can be defended” and “opinion is unsupported judgement.” You must be sure to distinguish between both.
So you have described the book, you have understood it and you have criticised it - now what? This is the last (and possibly most important) question you should make. If the book has enlightened you, even if just a little, you must go further - you might even have to act upon it. I like what the authors say about this question applied to historical books: “The answer to the question lies in the direction of practical, political action.” History shows what has been done, so it is a lesson of what we can do or avoid doing. In the same way, whatever the kind of enlightenment you had by reading the book, you have had a glimpse of truth - you can’t ignore it now that you know it.
Part 3 is useful in that it provides some interesting aspects of specific types of reading material, namely practical books, history (including biographies and current events), imaginative literature (including plays and poems), science and mathematics, philosophy and the social sciences. While a pleasure to read, it is not imperative that you do so if you have fully grasped the analytical reading process. There is, however, a lot of value in this part of the book, specially in the later chapters, and the reader is strongly advised to read it. One thing I should say is that, while they detail interesting aspects of reading imaginative literature, their techniques mostly apply to expository works. I think their best advice with respect to the former is “don’t try to resist the effect that a work of imaginative literature has on you”. This means allowing the work to show you “a deeper, or greater reality”. And this reality is “the reality of our inner life”. We don’t need any more rules than this one.
The last part of the book presents the fourth (and highest) level of reading - Syntopical reading - or reading two or more books on the same subject. By reading syntopically you are not concerned with understanding each book in all its details - in fact, you won’t read any of the individual books analytically (not at the present syntopical reading effort, at least). Here you are reading each book for what it may contribute to your own problem, not for the book’s own sake. Furthermore, you are not reading to find the truth or to establish your own voice - you would be only one more voice in the conversation. You are simply trying to understand the controversy itself, to establish the many voices you hear in a pure exercise of dialectical objectivity. This is a fantastic topic, which the authors have materialised in their greatest contribution to mankind, in my opinion - the Syntopicon, volumes II and III of the Great Books of the Western World . The reader is very much advised to check it out.
The book ends with two appendices. The first one provides a fascinating list of great books - the “endlessly readable” books. The list may seem overwhelming at first glance (and it is!), but the authors are prompt to address the reader and explain that the list does not have any time frame attached to it. I say it should just be begun - even an ignorant reader like me will be so flabbergasted by what he will learn that he will never stop reading it. This is a project for your life as a whole - to never stop reading these books. For a much more restrictive (but also magnificent) reading list, the reader is referred to the 10-year-reading plan provided in Adler’s Great Books.
The second appendix provides exercises and tests on all four levels of reading. I must admit that I hadn’t read them until I got this far in my review. I then decided to do it and now I tell you this: just read it. If you have had literature classes as an undergraduate or graduate student, you might find it slightly commonplace. But if you haven’t, like me, you will be glad you read it. Like they state at the beginning of the appendix, the selected texts are "themselves worth reading", so you can’t lose much by doing so. It is a delightful taste of what awaits you in your future exploits of the Great Books - if you do well and accept the challenge, of course.
On my part, simply put, this book has changed my life. It not only showed me "how" to read a book, but it also showed me "what" to read. I’ll be forever in debt with two of the greatest absent teachers I’ve had, Dr. Mortimer J. Adler and Dr. Charles Van Doren.
Reading is something many people find valuable, whether it be for recreation or education-most people in today's world know how to read. Loads of people are likely satisfied with their current reading abilities, and perhaps even more do not have any intention to increase the amount of reading nor the intensify the difficulty of the books that they choose to read. In fact, many people have the ability to read but simply choose to not exercise it. However, for those of us who enjoy reading and wish to improve our reading skills, I cannot recommend How to Read a Book: The Classic Guide to Intelligent Reading highly enough.
The book was originally published in 1940, and the most recent edition was published (with updated and timely content) in 1972. It aims to provide a guide for comprehensive reading for the general reader-"from elementary reading, through systematic skimming and inspectional reading, to speed reading. You learn how to pigeonhole a book, X-ray it, extract the author's message, criticize. You are taught the different reading techniques for reading practical books, imaginative literature, plays, poetry, history, science and mathematics, philosophy and social science." (From the publisher's blurb.)
The authors, Mortimer J. Adler and Charles Van Doren, introduce the concept of four levels of reading: elementary reading, inspectional reading, analytical reading, and syntopical reading. The levels are cumulative, which means that each gradation includes the techniques and skills of the lower levels.
Elementary reading is essentially the baseline ability to read that is taught at the pre-school/kindergarten, elementary and junior high school levels. These reading skills include reading readiness, word mastery, vocabulary growth and the utilization of context, and the ability to read almost anything (albeit in a relatively unsophisticated manner). This is the level of reading that perhaps the majority of the population has achieved. What is truly outstanding about reading is that once one has developed the elementary reading skills, she can teach herself to learn the skills involved with the higher levels of reading.
Inspectional reading involves two main concepts: systematic skimming or pre-reading, and superficial reading. Skimming or pre-reading involves looking at a book's title page, preface, table of contents, index, publisher's blurb, apparently-pivotal chapters, and true skimming of its content. Superficial reading is comprised of trudging through a book's content in its entirety for the first time, without ever stopping to look up or ponder the things that one does not understand right away. At this point in reading a book, one should start asking herself the four basic questions of reading:
What is the book about as a whole?
What is being said in detail, and how?
Is the book true, in whole or part?
What of it?
These questions are thoroughly fleshed out in the book, and I do not wish to focus too much on them in this review. It would be much better for you to check out this book for yourself, although I must warn you that to read it honestly is more like working through a workbook than an easy read. It takes a fair amount of effort on the part of the reader, but she is handsomely rewarded at the end of her journey.
Moving on, the book discusses note-taking techniques, which were very lacking in my own personal wheelhouse-it had been since my days at university that I regularly took notes in books, and even then, I didn't have an efficient education that demonstrated how to mark a book so that I would increase my level of understanding and retention. However, How to Read a Book certainly fills in where my formal education was lacking in this department. Even this brief section alone was worth reading the entire book, for me.
The next section of the book-the main bulk of it, in fact-covers the third level of reading: analytical reading. This part is incredibly valuable for readers wishing to improve their overall skill set, including full chapters on the following topics: pigeonholing a book, X-raying a book, coming to terms with an author, determining an author's message, criticizing a book fairly, agreeing or disagreeing with an author, and aids to reading. Again, I do not intend this review to fully explore the book's contents, and will leave it at that.
Following the section covering analytical reading, the authors explore another tangent: the various ways to approach different types of reading matter. From practical books to imaginative literature, history to science and mathematics, and a few more, this section adapts the four questions that must be asked when reading anything so that they are more applicable to specific types of reading. It was quite interesting for me to consider various types of books and reflect on my reading history and consider what I would truly like to spend my time reading in the future. The final chapter in this section discussed the reading of social science, which often requires reading multiple books about a topic. Because that is essentially the concept behind syntopical reading, it serves as a perfect segue into the next section of the book.
The final section of the book, "The Ultimate Goals of Reading", focuses on syntopical reading and the concept of reading and the growth of the mind. Syntopical reading is truly an interesting concept for me. It involves creating a tentative bibliography (generally including hundreds of books) of a central subject, quickly inspecting each book, re-inspecting all of the books that are specifically pertinent to the topic to identify the relevant passages within, creating a neutral terminology that can be used to discuss the opinions of multiple authors, establishing a set of neutral propositions by framing a set of questions to ask each author, defining the major and minor issues and assigning authors to the various sides of each issue, and providing an analysis of the discussion of the topic. This is a highly-advanced level of reading that one would embark on to do true work in a field, with the hope of providing an unheard analysis of a topic's discussion that many authors have participated in over time. It is possible that one's syntopical reading of a topic could culminate in a book that would push the discussion of a topic even further-in fact, this is indeed often the ultimate goal. The final chapter of the book offers a recap of the previous sections and discusses what good books can do for us, the various classes of books (with regard to what one can get out of reading and re-reading them), and the growth of the mind.
There are two appendices included, the first being an extremely valuable "Recommended Reading List". I must admit that this list makes my mouth salivate in anticipation of many more years of reading excellent books and the possibility of furthering my personal reading ability. The second appendix includes exercises and tests at the various four levels of reading. This is the one section of the book that I have yet to read-I may choose to explore these exercises in the future, although it will involve reading several other books from the aforementioned reading list, so it is likely to be a longterm project.
Overall, this is one of the best books I have read in the past several years. I am confident that the advice contained within it will help me improve my reading skills while simultaneously increasing the level of enjoyment that I get out of my reading practice. I must admit that when I first started reading the book, I was a bit disappointed that it is heavily biased toward non-fiction reading, when in the past I have reaped so much enjoyment from reading fiction. However, the skills that I have learned from How to Read a Book will only serve to improve my relation to non-fiction books, something that has been somewhat lacking for me previously. This is one book that I do plan on working with further in the future, whether it is simply picking it up from time to time to skim through the notes I took on its pages, choosing my next book from its impressive reading list, or working through the second appendix's reading exercises and tests.
Your dedication to unit conversion did not go unnoticed. 1 hr = 60min 😂
I couldn't help but hear the words "performance" and "Renault" in the same sentence during the intro. Been speechless till just now! Love the videos!
Dutch Renault driver here (2003 Megane). Renaults of that era are notorious for rusting away underneath your butt. So its nice to see one that survived. Though I am not a big fan of Renault and it's electrical issues throughout old and new models.. I have to say it's a nice cheap car to own. And this is the first car I have owned that does require oilservices instead of burning oil like a 2stroke engine..
For the next project, you should link Two v-twin Predator engines together, and install them in a midsized truck like an S-10, or a Ranger, etc. 4 cylinder predator 😮
This would be very interesting to watch.
Heck, get 4 of em and make a 2.7L V8 with 88hp
This car still goes faster than the open road speed limit in most of Australia 🤣
That’s fucking sad m8😂
Just wanted to say Thanks for converting things into metric aswell. Really enjoy your channel
Especially converting from one hour to 60 metric minutes.
Thanks!
This is one of the very few channels I watch that gets me excited to see what the new video is going to be about. Thanks for your content and keep up the great work.
Wow, thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoy our unusual projects... More to come!
I absolutely love the new drone shots and rollers.
I have never wanted such a slow old car so badly, haha. It's glorious.
This is exactly the sort of thing you bring to the 24 Hours of Lemons as a paddock cart and have the whole place stop what they're doing to look...
I think the renault is my favorite car thus far.
This is a refreshing change compared to other channels to where they blow tons of money into something so they can burn the tires off and break it. All the mods you do are on semi inexpensive cars and parts with the hope of making something slow into something less slow. Tbh im still fond of the kubota I really would drive that thing everyday its unique and just plain cool of a build and it has bragging rights attached to it in my opinion.
Top that off with you could walk into your Kubota dealer to get engine parts...just give the engine model number...and for laughs tell them what car its in to really confuse the crap out of them LOL
I have the D1005 25HP Kubota engine in my BX2680, plenty of HP and torque for that size tractor...and everyone tried to talk me out of it, they kept trying to get me to buy the next size smaller engine, I said no I want the PTO HP which is why I went with the larger engine...I don't really notice any excess fuel usage having the larger engine, I just know it has more HP at the PTO which was far more important than a slight increase in fuel use.
@@wildbill23c I have a 2017 bx23s also that's why that build fascinates me so much.
I'm a weirdo. What you're doing checks both of my intrigue boxes. Predator and diesels. I feel diesels are still a diamond in the rough. I'm trying to see if a diesel block can be made out of carbon fiber (or some other super lightweight material). Diesels are so much more efficient than gasoline and I'd love to see it used in more vehicles- although I believe in other countries outside of US its much more popular. Does anyone else think that if they could make them more lightweight they could be used in place of electric cars in terms of energy efficiency? Electric just doesn't seem like the natural replacement for ICE. Maybe many years from now but batteries are still not there yet. Diesels last forever.
Gosh I wish Predator made a small diesel engine
@@giggiddy That would be great, lots of uses for one in generators mostly, but could be used in pumps that have to run continuously as well. Lawn/garden equipment and toys, not really that great of an idea, but for other industrial/commercial uses it would be a great alternative fuel engine.
Hi Jimbo, thanks for a nice Sunday outing in the American wide open spaces and the new video !! 👍 Have a nice day folks and greetings from Berlin Germany, from Roadie✌
GREAT video!!!! You guys caught my eye while working with the diesel car. I’ve had 3 diesel vehicles, a Peugeot 504, a Peugeot 505 turbo, and a 1983 Toyota SR5 diesel pickup. I like diesel’s!!! Much more than liking diesel’s, I absolutely love Renault vehicles. Have had an R8, a Fuego, and 3 LeCars!!! I’ll bet the Le Car would get 40-50 without a turbo. Thanks for the most interesting videos on UA-cam!!!!
Lots of fun to watch! I had a 67 and a 71. They would go 70mph ok, slow to get there and usually around 35 mpg. Reverse was always hazy. Unlike the beetles of the time the heater/defrost was ok, the floor was flat, and the front trunk was big. I had to mount the tires myself, no center hole meant most tire places could not use their machine. I remember ordering a one piece, muffler/tailpipe(rear engine cars have a nicely abbreviated exhaust system) from J.C. Whitney, $15.00. Keep up the good work!
If you're as aerodynamic as a brick, having the windows up or down really doesn't matter...🤣👍
You're truly an amazing engineer. I enjoy the way you think things out, then figure out how to make your ideas work. Then try it. I think you usually have a good idea how things will work. Still it's interesting to see just what does happen. 😊
I can’t get enough of this. Great job!
I laughed heartily when I saw that you specified that an hour is 60 minutes
I have thoroughly enjoyed this video series. Thank you!
My grandpa bought the exact same R10 brand new back in 67. He had the « major » with the 1300cc and was driving it like a maniac around Clermont Ferrand twisty roads. He went for the tubeless tyres like you did and always had a 50lb bag in the frunk to help the front directivity. Even at a young age, I hated that car for its overall ugliness… and smell but it was darn well planted on the road and the back seemed very controlable on icy and wet roads. It’s a lot of fun watching you toying around in a machine that many turned into a potent track car by adding larger wheels and a better exhaust line.
A ram air type coolung duct under the car could be fitted underneath and be used to circulate air to and around the engine and you could dedicate a duct to the center of the engine for the main air intake somehow. 🤔 I recently watched a video featuring the new Banks differential covers with the cooling ducts on each side along the bottom. That concept of directing air where needed came to mind 👍🏼
I like seeing the advances we have made in manufacturing over time a smaller engine making more power than its older counterpart it’s nice to have your kind of examples
Nothing beat this type of video in the morning with a coffee! Thanks for making those cheers!
Waited till the wife and kids fell asleep for their afternoon nap. Made me a huge sandwich for lunch and I'm destroying it watching this video. Another great Sunday!
Thank you for realizing this with the camera on the engine. You didn't lose the camera because of that either, which made me very happy. I find your videos very interesting. I wish you and your family all the best. Please keep it up
Can’t wait to see more of this project. This latest vehicle looks like it would be practical with the stock V twin. Of course, what fun would that be. Looking forward to seeing what you have planned. Phil
Very excited, would love to see a twin blower setup ;P
Sunday is a day to recharge and refill the well of creativity
And also, thanks a lot for writing the number in metric. Apart from the US and a small country in africa, the world is metric, and most of your subscribers use standard messures. Keep up the good work!
36 mpg is still impressive. My 2010 Honda fit gets 36 if I drive like a total grandma. Love your videos!
I had a 93 intrepid that would average 34 mpg on highway with the 3.5 v6. That car weighed 3450 pounds. I didn't drive it like a grandma.
Driving like a grandma isn’t necessarily more efficient. Maintaining momentum, avoiding braking, and smooth cornering is how you get good gas mileage and grandma’s don’t do any of those things.
@@slimjim2291Some of the late 80-early 90's cars got awesome mileage. Seems there was a crossover with the lightweight 80's body/chassis designs, and 90's engine tech. Some cars got the best of both worlds and we're really efficient. I miss that era of cars.
@@life_of_riley88 and a lot of the 90s cars had decent aerodynamics. While there are a few modern vehicles that are, most of them seem to be wanna be suv things with the shape of a slightly melted brick.
@@Jake-bt3fc If I could give more than one like, you would get it. Rare to see someone so spot one and know what they are talking about.
I'm actually quite happy with the Predator Renault as it is. When I initially started following your channel I was actually wondering about a stock Predator 670 engine in a light car. I figured a top speed of 60 mph was the minimum performance I needed for a useable street car. The fact that you got the boxy Renault up there with a window open and the engine lid off says a lot about the viability of a Predator 670 powered light car.
FYI, Darwin doesn't have a good AC system either so I usually drive her with the driver's window open.
What a cool old retro rig. It's a good thing you gave it a second life.👍👍
Hey Jimbo, thanks for a great Sunday video! Love each of your builds, just great educational fun!
4:05 Reminds me of the drive when I was a kid going to see my Grandpa in Lenox, Iowa.
About the fuel economy, both Saturn and Honda were modern car that went through serious aerodynamic design and test and indeed they ended up with fairly good fuel consumption figures. That may not not the case for the Renault with its boxy and not aerodynamic shape. Can't wait to see the results. BTW great job as usual Jimbo
Ahh thanks for converting that "hour"thing you said, into minutes, because as a guy from Europe, I felt a little bit confused... 😊
the "60 minutes" bit was pretty good lol
Bring on the Mods!
Can't believe I'm excited at each episode 😉
Deja vu. My grandfather had one of these Renaults back in the late sixties in Scotland. I remember as an 18 year old I could lift the whole front end off the ground by myself. Im not athletic or strong, it was just super lightweight. If I remember correctly, the recommended front tire pressure was less than 20 psi. The tires back then were Michelin X.
Funny car but kind of endearing.
We sold the car I got when I married my wife in 2009. It was a 93 Ford Festiva. We found a fuel economy log in it from 2001. Three tanks of fuel from Winnipeg to Edmonton, $17 per fill at .55 cents a litre. That's all up hill and against wind... although you can get sucked along by semi trailers without tailgating.
Jimbo ur a true mad scientist my friend!! Outstanding work Sir thank you
Better than sunday morning cartoons!
I can't wait to see the predator unleashed lol
Give it the beans !! So many mods available !!! Cant wait .
I LOVE IT WHEN WE GET EPISODED!
Whoops, a Hemmings review of these cars suggests 16 PSI front/27 PSI rear. A contemporary Car and Driver test used 26 front/30 rear. I looked because I recall part of the bad rep early Corvairs got was because gas station mechanics would check the tires and put in 32 PSI all around, where standard front was supposed to be about 15. Too much front tire air in a rear engine car with swing axles contributes to oversteer on a turn in spirited driving. Not that I worry about that happening with this little power and the lack of curves in your typical Kansas road. The shiny side of this car is still shiny, we want to keep it (and your head!) intact. 135 or 145 X 15 radial tires were the norm; you are probably lucky to get that close with 155's. You can kind of tell what it likes by looking to see if the tread contact looks even in cross-section; or you can mark a line of chalk across the cross-section of the tire, run it down a paved street and check to see how the chalk rubs off; rinse and repeat adjusting your pressure until even in cross-section. With these old beasts you have to get creative.
I also find a statistic for coefficient of drag of .45. It really is a rolling brick, (and a relatively tall one at that, so a lot of frontal area) though that was not unusual for the time. Car and Driver got 82 mph out of it, that must have been a long track. They estimated 32-36 mpg, so you have already matched the standard engine.
Haven't found anything about the transmission, other than it came standard with a vague shifter. Supposed to be stout, just keep oil in it. Good luck with finding reverse.
Looking forward to more mods, this is fun. You fabricate so creatively; you explain what you are doing and why, so we can learn as we follow the process and enjoy.
80 mil per gallon with the Diesel Saturn it's really impressive. I think fuel ekonnemy with gasolin it's not rely easy why I drive a Twingo this car makes easy 100km with 6 Liter gasolin. I thanke you for Your Grat content.
Sunday clears away the rust of the whole week.
Hi , enjoyed the journey. Many thanks from UK.
Now I'd sort of like to have an old Renault like this with an electric motor and a small battery. Maybe you could throw in a predator engine as a backup generator!!
Other ideas include the adaptation of a lawnmower hydrostatic transmission to a car!
>> Now I'd sort of like to have an old Renault like this with an electric motor and a small battery. Maybe you could throw in a predator engine as a backup generator!!
@@Shmoozo55 Wonder what kind of performance someone could get out of a 'kludgecraft' off the shelf hybrid powertrain made from a generator, a beefy UPS, and a speed controlled 115v motor...
@@mfree80286 Sounds like something we could pitch to the Cantina.
You've almost motivated me to try a similar build. Maybe a 649 cc engine and transmission from a Kawasaki motorcycle since they were used i a wide range of motorcycles and are available cheap. The one on my Vulcan S gets 50-55 MPG depending on driving manor and has a decently wide power curve from about 2000 RPM up to 9000. Just need to figure a way to drive the wheels with a chain and sprocket.
Thanks for sharing your awesome project.
Oddly, driving the wheels is known quantity. FWD or RWD (and original location and rotation of the engine from the car) determines the the exact solution. The real challenge is with a unitized engine and transmission getting the clutch and trans to survive.
Nice!
Whenever you figure it out, post some videos so we can see how it turned out :D
I grew up in Oregon, and when I moved to Kansas I was absolutely sure that I would never miss the place once I could afford to move away. Here I am missing the place. Weird.
We should certainly count our blessings, but we should also make our blessings count.
7:16 thanks for the metric conversion...
I like how you swapped the French plates (the yellow plate should go on the back) 😂, if thus was on purpose you're a wizard
Considering he goes back and forth on the Renault pronunciation just to fuck with us, I wouldn't doubt if it was on purpose.
Watch the videos from two videos back. Jim explains the french tag, how it came from Poland and that he has a Kansas tag on the back to make it legal.
@@kd5inm I did watch that one :D, just wondering if he's trolling with the plates (and the Renault prononciation for that matter)
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Thought I was the only one noticing that, good set of ears bro 😂
On this wonderful Sunday, don’t forget to be thankful for the little things in life.
Can’t wait to see what’s next! I really hope you try the super charger. Don’t forget to add some speed stickers too 😊
I'm super excited to see where this goes. I'm sure you'll figure out how to push this build to it's limits as I've seen the ingenuity that you've put into other builds
I always like how you predicate in scientific units
I have been a professional driver most of my life. I have driven my own cars for delivery jobs, a taxi for a decade, and a number of delivery trucks for a wine importer. Gas mileage while technically very complicated seems to be a two factor problem at its core - inertia is the biggest factor in low speed stop and go city driving,, and aerodynamics seems to be the the main problem for highway driving. This little car seems like it would be very economical for a city car with the light weight being relatively easy to get moving and the aerodynamic profile of a refrigerator.
Need some of that exhaust wrap cloth stuff to keep the heat inside the exhaust pipe/muffler
So cool that it's getting down the road!
Keep em coming!!!!
This channel never disappoints! While watching the maiden-ish run, I'm having daydreams of a time you land a Manx-style buggy and a peppy bike engine. 😈
Weee!
Thanks for translating the units for 1 hour. I'd have struggled with that.
That model car appears in "Herbie goes to monte carlo", as the villain's car😂
Regarding the tire pressure. Markings on the sidewall tell the max load and max pressure. I'd suggest to go with a simple formula:
P = max_p * actual_load / max_load
Almost every street driven car out there does really well with about 35 psi, no matter weight and tire size. Like 99%+ of all cars on the road. So even this being an outlier as an old, light classic, I am pretty sure it will also do well with that pressure.
Thank you for converting 1 hour to 60 minutes for our European viewers.
Freedom time units?
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Feeling blessed, never stressed. Got that sunshine on my Sunday best
I'm glad you finally got the pronunciation of Renault correct
135 series tires have possibly the least rolling resistance you could possibly get. Several motorcycles run a 135 series tire in either the front or rear.
First is technically a granny gear in most cars back in the day. That's why it launches nicely. For a 'stock' 22 output shaft hp, it is what it is.
It is my experience (having owned 6 low (or low-ish) power French cars, all as "daily drivers") that you are spot on about first gear. Imagine doing a hill start with 4 adults in that little Renault - thus the rather low first gear. My grandmother's 1965 Wolseley Hornet (a British "deluxe" mini, that I learnt to drive on in the 1980s) also had a very low first gear for the same reason - and my grandmother usually just started off in second gear.
This engine has probably the same overall output as the original. Less HP , but i imagine a much healthier torque curve. With that exhaust normalised, i think the stats will improve to what the production car achieved. The only way is up after that 😊
In 1980 I owned a Renault 5, aka Le Car. It was a great car at the time, it had AC and I drove all over the place, up in Canada and down to Mexico. It was a blast, small and use a lot of gasoline. So, I bet you'll love this little thing 🙂
I liked the look of Le Car. Renault also made a turbo version, if I recall. It was a pocket rocket. Anyway, I bet it was fun to drive around with.
@@TruthProvider very much so.
This by far the coolest car yet
Luv that Renault! (I got a soft spot for 3 box cars with my 84 Jetta GLI in the garage)
Having owned an R8 and an R10 in my younger days i can tell you that overheating was the major killer of those engines ,but the good thing was that you could rebuild the whole thing without taking the engine out . Replaceable cylinder sleeves new pistons and bearings ,skim the head (they always warped) and drive away.
Were they the cast iron head with alloy block like the older Skodas and some Renault 5s?
Having also owned, (and destroyed), a few, I learnt it was essential to keep the metal tray under the engine in situ to control airflow for cooling. I’ve also never owned another car where correct tyre pressure was so important. From what I recall it was very low in the front.
@@timgould5104 cannot really remember if the head was cast iron or alloy, it was 50 years ago but i think it was aluminum
@maxregal8889 my Fiat 850 boiled if the plate under the engine was removed too.
“Treat everyone with politeness and kindness, not because they are nice, but because you are.”
Hey Jimbo, let the games begin !
I cannot wait to see this modified! I’ve got a gx690 just waiting for something like this lol
"... sitting in a hot car for over an hour [60min]" lol! I see what you did there😂😂
A Sunday well spent brings a week of content.
Ole “Mr. Goodpliers” might just want that car back!😂😂😂
FWIW, air cooled engines usually work better in a rear mount car due to then lower pressure aiding in heat dissipation. Though that huge exhaust heat sink is probably not helping.
Cool to see it making progress! Looking forward to seeing what it can really do!
What a great recap Jimbo! And I agree with you about the skinny tires, I've driven several 80s econoboxes that had 175 wide tires and the nimble handling cannot be understated
Love the new camera work. Keep up the good work
You've got a drone? Very cool. Really upping the production values.
You're the only person I've heard call Independence Day by its name not the date. I keep commenting on "4th of July" videos by asking them if they are going to call Christmas December 25th. Happy December 25!
I love how videos drop on Sunday, go to breakfast and get awesome videos
Just removing the governor will likely give a huge performance boost. Right now it's like driving it around on 3/4 throttle.
Also as to MPG i think that should always be a focus. Get the car running right first, of course, so that it's actually driveable. But after that if you're going to go with a small engine what's the point? To go as fast as possible while going as slow as possible? I mean you might as well have something to show for it! 😄
Maudi, je suis ben content de ce projet-là! Great job, another entertaining episode, love it Jimbo
I saw some of those Renault 10 when I was young. But they were pretty old even in this time.
The Renault 10 was less popular than the Renault 8 in my country. I remember a Renault 8 Gordini next where I lived back in the day. I loved this car with her 2 white lines.
The number plate is ligitimate for an old French car and I came from a used car dealer "groupe Bernard".