How To extend your Phone & Broadband when using a SSFP centralised ADSL or VDSL Filter

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  • @andrewbissell6533
    @andrewbissell6533 3 роки тому +1

    Have recently moved to our new home which is 30 years old. The Open Reach engineer has been out because we were not getting either speech or BB. He sorted us out with a new master socket 5c. Well I had planned to move my router from the main socket location to near the tv. I have done this before at previous homes but when I looked at the master socket, I hadn't a clue. This video has all the answers and now my BB hub is with my tv and I have one more voice socket in the house, from where I shall use my portable phone.
    Thank you so much for creating this video which has allowed me to achieve what I wanted to achieve and now I am so pleased that this has been possible after initially thinking I was lost with it all!
    Great stuff!!!!

  • @Holdeenio
    @Holdeenio 4 роки тому +5

    I've been rewatching your telephone engineering videos and they're so useful. You've got a really clear way of explaining the process. Thanks Vince 👍🏼

  • @jacktam5935
    @jacktam5935 Рік тому +2

    Hi Vince, ❤ Thanks so much for making these videos! I’m now just finishing the rewiring of my flat creating an extension using only one Ethernet cable. Unfortunately, many people like me are still using ADSL as they did 7 years ago. 😓

  • @CoolDude-ei5tz
    @CoolDude-ei5tz 4 роки тому +8

    OMG Thank You, the only place where I can find somewhere to fit an Extension to a VDSL Faceplate, Finally!

  • @daron8982
    @daron8982 3 роки тому

    I had to watch 5 other videos before finding this. all your videos I gave 👍. very well explained and shown close up.many thanks

  • @stuartharding3956
    @stuartharding3956 7 років тому +1

    Forgot to say Vince watched all your videos and they are brilliant

  • @richardharrison9883
    @richardharrison9883 4 роки тому

    Thanks for this. Worked for me! I’ve put 6a all around the house and laid same for adsl extension under floor to new position in utility to connect all points.

  • @Ratti3
    @Ratti3 8 років тому +1

    Thanks, I followed your guide and got the latest sockets and extended the data using A/B, got the max 8mbit instead of the usual 7mbit. I didn't use Cat5e as the extention cable is already behind the skirting.

  • @williambruceandrews794
    @williambruceandrews794 7 років тому +3

    Brilliantly explained. Great stuff Vince

  • @chickbells
    @chickbells 4 роки тому

    Superb guide. Did this today and it's working like a charm. Thanks Vince!

  • @mrrobbienh
    @mrrobbienh 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for the video and response to my email a while back Vince. I've now done the extension above for phone and ADSL as per above and works a treat. Donation made via Paypal via your website, not a fortune but every little helps ! Cheers, Robbie

  • @YouTubeSupportTeams
    @YouTubeSupportTeams 7 років тому +1

    I have just had new router sent from talktalk as the one supplied was not allowing the max line rate achievable, they sent their updated model and that improved things a lot however my master socket was (as usual ) in a stupid place so i bought the mk3 vdsl faceplate and connected the living room extension (rj11 faceplate) via terminals A&B on good quality cat5 cable (pre-installed in the new build property) and i can honestly say the performance is consistently much BETTER than connected to the test socket via micro filter in the hall. Line attenuation has went up by about 1db (expected) but my snr safety coefficient has dropped!? Weird stats but it has ultimately much improved my fibre connection, thanks a lot vince, without this video i would have had a pretty unsatisfactory fibre connection. One question.. my stats say interleaving is on, depth is 1 on uplink and 5 on downlink.. i'll assume this is either automaticly on by default and not my fault or it is my fault for many router disconnects during testing over the last few days.... will this automatically adjust itself and i may expect even higher speeds close to the 75mb cap or should i call talktalk and ask them to turn of interleaving? your expert advice is appreciated

  • @granvillebarraclough8846
    @granvillebarraclough8846 4 роки тому

    Great vid Vince. I've got the idea of running the cable (cat5e) through conduit and wrapping the cable in bacofoil (aluminium baking foil) to eliminate any electrical interference .Also I've seen elsewhere that the solid colour should be connected to A and the colour/ white should be connected to B.

  • @mahmoodbhamji6279
    @mahmoodbhamji6279 3 роки тому

    Well explained. Needs a cool and logical head with lots of patience!

  • @adrianburton1264
    @adrianburton1264 4 роки тому +2

    Hi Vince, this video was exactly what I was looking for so thanks. My only confusion was around using an RJ45 module in the new faceplate, is there any reason you don't use an RJ11 module and would the wiring be different if you did? I've seen a few posts that warn against putting a RJ11 connector into an RJ45 module....

  • @barryfudge5036
    @barryfudge5036 Рік тому

    Thanks so much. Which green did you have on the extension socket. Could not make it out? I just want to match both pairs

  • @CallumT5
    @CallumT5 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Vince, can you run the router wiring through powerline adapters? Thanks

  • @petershelper
    @petershelper 7 років тому +1

    Hi Vince,
    This is the most instructive video of yours that I have watched, since I recently changed over to Sky for Broadband!
    I have since discovered that the previous internal wiring I installed is not really that good!
    I have managed to source some 2 pair cat 5e CW1308 (CW1724) to aid in replacing the wiring and there bye improving not just the voice clarity but also the broadband signal speed.
    However, I am sure I watched one of your videos that implied that once the VDSL faceplate had been fitted, you didn't need the router filters that were supplied due to the fact that the VDSL faceplate filtered the signal for all of the outlets in the house!
    Or, is that just the voice cable?
    I would have the impression that the A and B terminals inside the VDSL faceplate would be filtered in the same way as plugging your router cable into the actual VDSL faceplate!

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  7 років тому +1

      Hi, the VDSL faceplate filters all the other extension sockets so you can plug phones into them without the need of additional filters in each extension socket. BUT...you have to have the router plugged into the VDSL faceplate as it will no longer work in any extension socket. The A and B on the back of the VDSL faceplate is actually the unfiltered signal which is the same as where you plug in your router cable. So the voice is filtered throughout the house and the VDSL socket and VDSL A and B terminals are unfiltered. Hope that makes sense.
      Thanks Vince.

    • @petershelper
      @petershelper 7 років тому +1

      My Mate VINCE;
      My guess was correct then! So the set up you carry out with the RJ45 socket beside the telephone module would still need the router filter plugged into it as well?

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  7 років тому +2

      Hi, no, because the voice module will take the filtered signal from the 2, 3 and 5 terminals, so that setup uses 2 wires for the unfiltered VDSL signal for the modem/router and then another 2 (or 3) wires for the filtered signal for the voice.

  • @charlesgooch8196
    @charlesgooch8196 2 роки тому

    Brilliant video. Does the incoming 48V reach the router, or is it filtered out, Please ?

  • @puzzlefactorysoundstudios
    @puzzlefactorysoundstudios 5 років тому

    If you have the choice, is it better to have the master socket/VDSL filter plate close* to the router? Or does it not matter?
    * "close" being within 20 metres.
    I ask because I am considering bridging the incoming service line with the extension and moving the master socket to the end of the extension since no phone services are being used on the line.

  • @colonelbuendia101
    @colonelbuendia101 3 роки тому

    Thanks Vince very informative

  • @hmahay71
    @hmahay71 6 років тому +1

    Hi Vince. I have a NTE 5C in my new office and have a openreach mk2 in front room. I want to connect the MK2 to the NTE5C. Can this be done through the AB wires? Also will this allow me to connect phone and router to either please?

  • @m.v.k4681
    @m.v.k4681 7 років тому

    Hi Vince Just been looking at "How to extend your Phone & Broadband when using a SSFP centralised ADSL or VDSL Filter. When I plug the VDSL plate into the Master plate, there seems to be no Broadband getting through. When I look at the plug on the VDSL plate it only has the two outer contacts and nothing on the central ones. I was hoping to be able to leave the Master Socket in the hall and run a CAT5E cable from the VDSL plate up to my office but Broadband not getting past the VDSL Plate. have you any thoughts what I need to do or where I am going wrong.
    Thanks for all those videos, I have spent hours watching them, better that the telly anytime.

  • @ryanpurnell4749
    @ryanpurnell4749 8 років тому +1

    Hi I've been watching a few of your videos and was just wondering if you could make one that explains how to use a network cable tester properly and the faults that you can find using it, manny thanks

  • @GalatheonIL52NEP
    @GalatheonIL52NEP 4 роки тому +1

    Question: Why would you go through the effort of that when it is more affordable (I would of thought) for most people to just buy a 5-10m (A)DSL extended cable? From what I’ve understood, your end result was still to have a cable trailing from the master socket to wherever you choose to place the new one..

    • @SBBUK
      @SBBUK 3 роки тому +1

      In this demo it looks messy, but in a real installation you can make it look neater because the extension cable can exit the back/bottom of the master socket and is hardwired in with no plugs hanging out the front of the socket to get damaged, unplugged by children, etc. Or (as i've done in my property) you can make the extension exit back through the outside wall and then you have no additional wiring visible.

    • @GalatheonIL52NEP
      @GalatheonIL52NEP 3 роки тому

      @@SBBUK Thanks for this.

  • @St3V3_W
    @St3V3_W 8 років тому +2

    just what i was looking for thank you

  • @brendanmcgirr6710
    @brendanmcgirr6710 4 роки тому

    easy to watch i will definitely attempt this now many thanks stay safe

  • @jondi1115
    @jondi1115 5 років тому

    Liking your vids, whats suggested preference if i wanted to keep phone in hall and router in living room next door. Ethernet or cat cable? And box to use? Cheers

  • @raydavison2972
    @raydavison2972 6 років тому

    Hi Vince, Do you need the Telephone and Cate5e/RJ45 modules to be shielded or does it not matter. Also your shop seems to have disappeared, do you not sell any more?

  • @madmannequin
    @madmannequin 7 років тому +2

    Hi Vince, great video! Just about to do this but for the voice do I need to use a Telephone Master Euro Module IDC or a Telephone Extension Euro Module IDC? Thanks in advance!

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  7 років тому +1

      Hi, thanks. Both will work but if you are just using 2 wires (terminals 2 and 5) then if you use a 'master' version then all phones that you plug into it will ring whether new or old. If you use the 'extension' version on just 2 wires then there is a chance some older phones will not ring. I normally advise to fit a master or PBX version and then you know that every phone that you plug in will ring properly and they only cost a small bit more.

  • @mickowston6325
    @mickowston6325 4 роки тому

    Hi Vince, I followed this and connected it only to an Rj45 socket using the same colours to the A&B socket in the By mk3 faceplate. I had to use slots 2 and 5 on the rj45 socket as they are not coloured. Not sire where I'm going wrong. I have not connected it to a phone socket as per your post but didn't think this would matter...I'm lost. Can you help? Cheers

  • @jamesphillips534
    @jamesphillips534 7 років тому +1

    Hi Vince, very informative videos, and very helpful, i hope i,m not asking a daft question here,but, when you use a phone
    module with an RJ45 module in a faceplate, does the phone module have to have a capacitor on it, thanks in advance. james.

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  7 років тому +1

      Hi James, no it doesn't have to have the capacitor, you can fit a secondary (slave) module instead. I fit the capacitor so I can run the extension on 2 wires (which is better for broadband) and the capacitor will make sure all phones will ring on 2 wires even the old ones, but most modern phones will ring on 2 wires even without the capacitor.
      Thanks Vince

  • @user-nn4ny8rw9g
    @user-nn4ny8rw9g 8 років тому

    Hi Vince i have just moved into my new home where the telephone main socket is really old and is connected to a junction box, i have a bt engineer comming to sort the main socket out for my fibre broadband, however i need to relocate the broadband in another place where the network switch is going to be could i use cat 6 cabling which i already have on a reel or a cw1308 2 pair cable for the extention?

  • @22kevtech
    @22kevtech Рік тому

    Is their a video if your BT box didn’t have A & B terminals?

  • @Fendermanpaul
    @Fendermanpaul Рік тому

    I don't understand, if I'm.moving the router to another location I need the rj11 plug at the new location. Otherwise how do I connect the router to it?
    You're extending the rj11 not rj45 so how do I plug into it?

  • @xjjam9607
    @xjjam9607 7 років тому +2

    Is it possible to connect a router straight into the vdsl faceplate and get broadband from it?

    • @harleyme3163
      @harleyme3163 5 років тому

      nope. dsl is a modem service. phone line goes to modem.. modem gives you connection to internet via whatever.. wifi in most cases now.

  • @stuartharding3956
    @stuartharding3956 7 років тому

    Hi Vince how do I go on if I want to move the router into my living room as I don't have a master socket. What happen is when the house was built in 1982 the main BT wire comes in to the house and the it is coupled to a extension which goes to my kitchen then it goes back outside and up to a junction box which then Tees of to two bedrooms and it has always been like that since the house was built in 1982

  • @robertwhite9270
    @robertwhite9270 4 роки тому

    Hi Vince, I was wondering would this also work using 3 pair CW1308 instead of the Cat5e? cheers!

  • @crazeetom7806
    @crazeetom7806 8 років тому +1

    Hi, I'm struggling to find the little BT module for voice in you Ebay shop, can you point me in the right direction. I originally had the master socket (a NTE5 master socket) in the hall but had an extension put into a bedroom but that was changed to the master socket by BT (don't know why) and they put in a ADSL V 1.0. Using the instructions from some of your other videos I'm going to try to connect a Cat 5E cable to the original external cable in the original master socket into my home office. I have 2 external cables coming into the house, the original and the second cable BT added when I had the extension installed.

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  8 років тому +1

      +Tom Coyne Hi, I don't have them listed but if you buy a double cat5e faceplate then I can change one module to a BT voice module or if you contact me via Ebay messages then I can sell you just the BT module by itself if you already have the faceplate.
      Thanks Vince

    • @crazeetom7806
      @crazeetom7806 8 років тому +1

      +My Mate VINCE, Thanks for getting back to me. I think I'll just get the double cat5e face plate and wire that to the line in the bedroom (it's my sons room and he just connects his PS4 etc, no need for phone) and move the ADSL down to my office and run the wire from the original master socket in the hall (the NTE5 that currently has my phone connected to it) to the ADSL in my office, hopefully that should work

  • @catchy889
    @catchy889 7 років тому +1

    Hi there I followed your video step by step but I am having issues with the phone line in adsl works fine with no problems and no loss of speed but I can not get my phone line to work wondered if you would have any ideas

    • @araskader
      @araskader 6 років тому +1

      Danny C889
      Hi, I have exactly the same issue, and since all the wires are hidden now there is no way to change the plan,

    • @araskader
      @araskader 6 років тому +1

      Hi,
      Thank you for this great video, although I implemented exactly what you suggested. The extension to my living room. The data is working fine but voice is not at all, any suggestions please.

  • @andrewcarter3748
    @andrewcarter3748 8 років тому +1

    Not sure if you will get this but I have been given some of the new bt master socket 5c this has a removable front plate with the 2 idn on this not the main plate

    • @harleyme3163
      @harleyme3163 5 років тому

      dunno why he's bothering with special faceplates.. dsl runs off 2 wires.. transmit, and recieve..
      that would be the red and green wire out of four.. you see, dsl runs off a normal telephone system lol.... probably should have clued in when the isp company gave him filters to put on the actual phones..
      you know, so they wont interfere with the dsl .. :-) I got my modem beside the pots splitter.. first line into the house.. then extend the signal with wifi.. simple.

  • @nov3019892008
    @nov3019892008 5 років тому

    How do i go about connecting a vdsl socket to a 1980s old style bt master socket with 1 connector, 2 screws and no removable plate? And which type wire do i need? I simply want to place the socket next to the bt socket and have my router and everything else coming off the new sevondary vdsl master socket

  • @gealaltr
    @gealaltr 7 років тому +1

    Hi Vince, I have some cat6 cable but looking at it all the twisted wires have the main colour but each wire has the other cable twisted with it but they are all white. Is this okay to run this but I assume for instance the wire twisted with the blue is the white and blue and the same with the others?

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  7 років тому

      Hi, yes it will be fine and you are correct the white wire twisted with the blue will be the white/blue wire and the same with the others.
      Thanks.

  • @serdarcomak6419
    @serdarcomak6419 5 років тому

    I am looking for the bt modules. There is euro master module and euro slave module and a bt master module which one would I need to extend? Thanks also they aren't colour codes just numbered 1 to 6

  • @alexbowers5000
    @alexbowers5000 3 роки тому

    Can you tell me where I can buy white cat5 cable. everyone is selling cat5 ethernet connectors.

  • @philzvids3577
    @philzvids3577 5 років тому +1

    Great video. Do you have a (working) link for buying the parts used in this video please? (UK)

    • @CoolDude-ei5tz
      @CoolDude-ei5tz 4 роки тому +1

      Yea I noticed that the ebay site doesn't work either...

  • @genehunt9871
    @genehunt9871 7 років тому

    Hi Vince, great video I have recently purchased a cat6 face plate amongst other items from you, the terminals are colour coded but no numbers just A & B, it's the same faceplate as you use in this video" How To install a CAT6 Network Faceplate Socket & RJ45 Plug using soild core cable" is it still the blue terminals for the broadband data (middle pins) or could you advise me which terminals to use please.Thanks in advance

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  7 років тому

      Hi, yes it is the blue terminals that you use. The blue terminals will always go to the middle 2 pins on all cat5e and cat6 sockets no matter what manufacturer makes them.

    • @genehunt9871
      @genehunt9871 7 років тому

      Thanks for your reply much appreciated

  • @PCopey999
    @PCopey999 7 років тому +1

    Hello Vince, very good video.
    I've been on your shop and have found most of the items in the video but cannot find the voice BT module with capacitor that you talk about?
    I need to move my my master box due to a new fire place, but it means I will need to run a cable outside and back in again. I know it would be easier to just extend the BT cable but I am reluctant to touch it i case of any future problems.
    Would be grateful for any advice or how I can find the voice module on your site. Thanks Paul.

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  7 років тому +1

      Hi Paul, I have loads of them but still haven't listed them on eBay. If you buy the double cat5e faceplate then I will swap out one of the modules to a BT module for you. If you could just add a note to the order reminding me to do so.
      Thanks Vince

    • @PCopey999
      @PCopey999 7 років тому

      My Mate VINCE
      Thanks. I'll order them tomorrow. Thanks for a quick response.

    • @PCopey999
      @PCopey999 7 років тому

      My Mate VINCE Hello Vince. Thanks for a very prompt delivery.
      Slight problem as I've ordered the wrong box.
      In your video the extra box seems to have a step and sits over the original BT box( mine does not so I cannot follow your instructions in the video).
      I've had to put the data cables in the same place as the BT cable. This is working but causing interference on the phone line.
      Also the extra plate which you put in the plate has completely different markings. I've sorted it now though and the data is working.
      What is the box in your video I need to order as concerned about now I've connected to BT line?
      Thanks Paul

    • @japan5383
      @japan5383 7 років тому

      Hi Paul, I know it has been a bit of time since you posted your comment. As long as the faceplate on your master socket has the A and B terminals somewhere you can just run from thous, the separation is because its a VDSL faceplate for that style of master socket, an ADSL faceplate on a similar master socket would have the voice and data terminals next to each other on the same plastic step.
      It sounds like you might just have a voice plate on your master socket, in which case you would need filters for your phones. The VDSL or ADSL faceplate is a centralized filter so all your phones can connect to the voice extensions, and the A and B terminals remain unfiltered. I would recommend buying a VDSL faceplate if you can then you can follow the steps in the video exactly.

  • @SXI666666
    @SXI666666 7 років тому +1

    Hi Vince, a very informative video.I recently moved my nte5a back to its original location at the bottom of the stairs and hard wired extensions for the data and the voice as shown here, green pair to A and B on the back of the VDSL face plate, blue pair and orange to 2 5 & 3 and the same onto a secondary phone faceplate, (not a BT module as shown here) since then I have no dial tone on the cordless phone we use and no dial tone even in the test socket on nte5a meaning you can't ring in or out but broadband works fine (BT Infinity) what do you think the problem could be ? cheers, Scott.

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  7 років тому

      Hi Scott, if you have no dial tone on the test socket then there is a problem up to the NTE5a. Do you think you might have accidentally disconnected one of the wires going to the A and B terminals on the NTE5 master socket when doing the work. Double check the connection and if it looks good then it could just be coincidence that when you did the work that the outside line failed somewhere on the route back to the exchange. (Could be the voice wires from the green street cabinet back to the exchange if the broadband is working fine). That would be unlikely though so definitely check that you haven't dislodged the main wires coming in as it happened at the same time as you did the work.

    • @SXI666666
      @SXI666666 7 років тому

      Hi Vince, Thanks for the reply.
      All wires are still connected fine, would the broadband still work off one wire ?
      The only thing I can see is the first pair on the main drop wire has been extended about 3 inch with jelly crimps because it was too short (done years ago, not done by me) I just connected white and orange to A and B on the back off the nte5a.
      I understand that broadband and phone use the same two wires but different frequencies I can't understand how broadband is working but not the phone.
      The phone line is not completely dead you can hear a very faint crackle in the background.
      Cheers, Scott.

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  7 років тому

      It is possible that it can work on one wire but more likely is that on FTTC you have copper for both the phone and broadband from the street cab into your home on the one pair of wires but from the street cab back to the exchange you have copper for voice and because you are on Infinity you will have fibre for the broadband. This means it is possible for the copper to go faulty for the voice from street cab to exchange but not on the fibre hence the reason you still have broadband.

    • @SXI666666
      @SXI666666 7 років тому

      Hi Vince.
      So it turns out where the the main drop wire had been extended with jelly crimps onto the back of the nte5a the terminals were old and corroded resulting in one wire no longer being proberly connected. Cheers Scott.

  • @Giggler.
    @Giggler. 4 роки тому

    Hi could it be possible to put routers in both sides at the same time ie leave router in original place and put new router in newly wired place will that work? Please let me know thanks

    • @SBBUK
      @SBBUK 3 роки тому

      No, you can only have one active ADSL/VDSL connection per phone line. You would need to order an additional phone line and broadband service.

  • @michaelhosker34
    @michaelhosker34 8 років тому

    I have basically had to do this as I wanted to move my router to my office. I originally used powerline adapters from the BT fibre modem to the router, but now I have run a cat6 cable not connecting it like in this video but like normal cat6 using all the data pairs. The cable will then run from the master socket and into a RJ45 coupler in the office and then from the coupler a cat5e cable which has a RJ11 on one end for the fibre modem to plugs in. Do RJ45 couplers reduce the data signal?

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  8 років тому

      +Michael Hosker It shouldn't make much difference but if you do find it affects the signal then you can get cat5e and cat6 rated couplers which may be better than the cheap standard non rated version.

    • @michaelhosker34
      @michaelhosker34 8 років тому +1

      +My Mate VINCE Hi thanks for that. Broadband just went down and had to bodge a bit of a fail over using the couplers and they did not seem to loose any signal!

  • @STEWART-mf8wh
    @STEWART-mf8wh 3 роки тому

    Hi mate.
    I need to move my master socket , it’s only open reach single plate. I need to move it 2 m so it’s beside my unit at tv. Is it better t move socket or longer adsl rj45 cable ?

    • @SBBUK
      @SBBUK 3 роки тому +1

      You can't move the master socket legally as it's BT's property. You need to install an extension (as shown in video) or buy a long cable to reach where you want the router to go.

  • @cerrkuss
    @cerrkuss 8 років тому

    Hi Vince, I need to extend my broadband from my house to the granny annex in the garden. The annex is about 40 feet from the main house. I need your advice on the best solution as I need wifi and plugged connection in the annex. Your kind advice is most appreciated. Thanks Joshua

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  8 років тому

      Hi Joshua, if you are running an Ethernet cable down there from your house router then look in Wireless Access Points or you could also look into powerline adaptors with WiFi built in but this may depend on whether your granny annex is fed from its own fuseboard (consumer unit).
      Thanks.

    • @cerrkuss
      @cerrkuss 8 років тому

      Hi Vince,
      Thanks for your response. The granny annex electrics is tapped from the main building. So there is an armoured cable running from the back if the fuse box in the building and leading to the fuse box in the annexe. So there are are 2 linked fuse boxes in both buildings.
      Will this help me with the powerline adaptors?
      Thanks
      Joshua
      07841294196

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  8 років тому

      Hi, I haven't tried it but I believe that Powerline adaptors struggle when passing through a fuse box. They work fine off the same fusebox but I believe when the signal goes through the 2nd fusebox it deteriorates but the info on Google/forums is conflicting. Do your own research on it because it is the easiest option but the Ethernet cable is always going to be the most reliable option.

  • @congt9288
    @congt9288 5 років тому

    Thanks for the video. However, I am confused. You start of with a BT socket with a RJ11 for the Data - Modem. Then the extension you add shows a RJ 45 socket for the Data. My modem, as with all of them is a RJ45 to RJ45 cable. How can you plug a RJ11 plug into your RJ45 socket in the extension ? Have I missed something obvious ?

    • @Finder245
      @Finder245 5 років тому

      RJ11 plugs into RJ45. Before gigabit Ethernet, it was possible to wire up a socket for both phone and Ethernet because the middle contacts were reserved for phone.

  • @daron8982
    @daron8982 2 роки тому

    what about the feed cable that connects to the master socket?

  • @MatthewBester
    @MatthewBester 5 років тому

    I think this is what I need but I have a question...
    After doing this could I have two or more routers connected in different rooms? E.g. keep the main router in the hallway for even 5ghz wifi and at the farside of property (bad wifi) run router from extension with ethernet connections?

    • @harleyme3163
      @harleyme3163 5 років тому

      buy a router that runs in repeater mode and just propagate it through wifi... the modem from the isp should be on the MAIN starting point into you house (aka pots splitter) because dsl is distance sensitive. moving the modem farther down the line = slower speed.

  • @faizankut
    @faizankut 8 років тому

    hi Vince I have the same bt master socket in this video. and I am thinking about moving my router upstairs but I don't want to move my phone should I still use the same technique in this video

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  8 років тому

      Hi, reading this message and your others messages on the other videos I personally think it would be easier for you to just install a long good quality cat5e or cat6 RJ11 to RJ11 ADSL lead from your master socket to the router. There is no point in doing the work in the video if you do not want to move/extend the phone.
      Thanks Vince.

    • @faizankut
      @faizankut 8 років тому

      wait so Vince your saying I shouldn't even do a extention from my master socket to my room upstairs where my extension socket would be the only difference is I will have to put the blue and blue white wires in the A and A junctions

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  8 років тому

      No, just install something like www.ebay.co.uk/itm/15m-CAT5E-ADSL-CABLE-LEAD-ADSL-BROADBAND-INTERNET-BT-Talk-Talk-SKY-EE-/351234522137?hash=item51c7357c19
      Just plug it in.

    • @faizankut
      @faizankut 8 років тому

      Ok Tha k you very much Vince I appreciate it was really annoyed with the router being in the hallway need it up stairs for better WiFi coverage and online gaming thanks :)

    • @faizankut
      @faizankut 8 років тому

      lastly so.I just plug this wire into my main filtered socket downstairs and then run it upstairs and connect my router to the other side upstairs??

  • @anonymous81.
    @anonymous81. 8 років тому +1

    Hello Vince, I have done the installation the way you have instructed on the video and it is working fine. I have been advised by another IT network engineer to cut out the capacitor on the BT module. This is because the master socket already has a built in capacitor and it will show error messages at the exchange even though it is working fine on my end.
    Can you please advise?
    Thank you

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  8 років тому

      Hi, you can cut out the capacitor but some older phones may not ring unless you connect up the ringer wire onto terminal 3. Don't worry about the test equipment in the telephone exchange, If your house had 10 sockets in the property all with capacitors then it may show a problem but an extra one or 2 capacitors will not register an error.
      Thanks.

    • @alanjjeff
      @alanjjeff 5 років тому

      @@Mymatevince With 10 Sockets fitted ring trip might be more of a problem. I find more people have old and new phones fitted with more and more line capacitance ringtrip faults are more common.

    • @MrIulianpt
      @MrIulianpt 3 роки тому +1

      There are three scenarios for the voice side, related to the video:
      Scenario 1.) With the bell no 3 wired; no capacitor needed on the slave. Just use a plain slave socket - aka no passive components - (not recommended as per video due to RF interference for VDSL). However, if the bell choke is present in the master socket then it's probably safe to run it. You might have to add extra clip-on ferrites on the cable etc. If you have plasma TVs etc in the house (or in the neighborhood), probably it's better to forget about the bell wire all together.
      Scenario 2.) Without bell nr 3 wired, with "BT (master) module" only use the capacitor. Clip off the resistor and, if present, the surge protector. The capacitor doesn't do any harm to the exchange. It will only provide AC current when ringing only onto the nr 3 wire on the phone connected to that socket.
      Scenario 3.) Without bell no 3 wired, with "PBX (master/slave) module". The PBX module should work just fine as they only have the capacitor (as in the the video). If the resistor and surge protector are present then it is not a PBX module, but a BT (master) module and, as per nr 2.), the resistor and surge protector have to be removed (just clip off one end of their wires).
      Note: The capacitor on the slave it's most probably not needed with new type phones.
      The capacitor is there to let the AC current through onto the bell wire (inevitably to block the DC current present on the line used for speech). If you have too many capacitors, however, you might have a problem with the ringer in the exchange (search online REN Ringer Equivalence etc). Two capacitors should not be any problem at all. The resistor on the master socket is for testing purposes only (the exchange would use that by pushing some AC through). When simply connecting two master sockets up, you might have a problem when testing is done in the exchange as the resistor value would change (now two resistors in parallel).

  • @tomcartwright1299
    @tomcartwright1299 7 років тому

    Hi Vince, can I use a pre-existing CW1308 2 pair 4 core cable instead for a router extension only??

    • @tomcartwright1299
      @tomcartwright1299 7 років тому

      that is instead of the cat5e cable you suggest...

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  7 років тому

      You can. Cat5e cable is better but it will still work on CW1308.

  • @harrywood6502
    @harrywood6502 8 років тому

    Will you still be able to use the master socket you extended it from?

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  8 років тому

      Yes, you can use it for voice and still use it to plug in your modem/router if you want to change location back to the master socket.

  • @fredread7635
    @fredread7635 8 років тому

    Hi not long moved and got a phone line put in with landline and fiberoptic internet, but the hub box comes up with fault and while its pluged in I get no diel tone on my phone unplug the box diel tone comes back have tried 2 hub boxes both do the same thing is it a fult with the hub boxes (both new) or a fult with the line? Any help would be appreciated.

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  8 років тому

      +Fred Read Hi Fred, it does sound like a Hub fault but for it to happen to 2 of them makes me think the fault is elsewhere. Double check the ADSL lead feeding the hub, swap it out or leave everything connected apart from the hub and check for dial tone. If you have a spare microfilter try it from the test socket on the nte5 master socket to see what happens.

  • @ningis21
    @ningis21 6 років тому

    Hi.... I find your videos very interesting....Thanks.
    Could I just use another Bt Master socket as the extension socket (instead of an ADSL and Telephone module) and connect to the A+B connections in that unit just like the original master socket in the video, using the same colour codes as BT have used...instead of doing as you have done in this video,
    giving me a filtered and an unfiltered outlet...the same as you have achieved?
    Also...checked out the shop...it appears not to be a working ...ebay says..no shop?
    The master I have is a BT Openreach mark 4.

    • @epichappy
      @epichappy 5 років тому

      This should work, but It might be confusing since a mastersocket is meant to be a demarcation point between the service providers wires and your internal wires. The A and B are unfiltered signals, except for a REIN filter, but I don't believe an additional REIN filter would effect broadband. Most of these things can be found just using a search on ebay, since I don't think vince maintains his shop anymore.

  • @raminybhatti5740
    @raminybhatti5740 4 роки тому

    Would this work with shielded Cat6a?

  • @conormcdade841
    @conormcdade841 7 років тому

    My master socket only has a phone jack then a filter running off it with the router an phone connected to the filter. how can I change the router an phone to a new location ?

  • @jonnyleung7261
    @jonnyleung7261 2 роки тому

    Isn’t it an RJ11 on the BT masker socket?

  • @murphyrobert7014
    @murphyrobert7014 4 роки тому

    yes great well done

  • @Ironbuket
    @Ironbuket 6 років тому

    Can anyone confirm that the only difference between the faceplate mk3 and mk4 is the way the wires are connected to make it easier for self install? Is the filtering quality on the mk4 any better?

  • @Usmalgerois
    @Usmalgerois Рік тому

    I think we call that Start wiring and is forbidden from Openreach. that's affect the quality of Data

  • @p4p4juju
    @p4p4juju 4 роки тому

    on data modules , my number 4 and 5 are orange and not blue and they are both number 2. for me blues are number 1.

  • @raminybhatti5740
    @raminybhatti5740 4 роки тому

    Anyone know how the black BT drop wire is set up in this video?

  • @MrCrazeme
    @MrCrazeme 2 роки тому

    Do I need shielded cat 5 e

  • @lucaviggiani2189
    @lucaviggiani2189 5 років тому

    Why an RJ45 socket? Don’t most modem/routers plug into RJ11?

    • @lucaviggiani2189
      @lucaviggiani2189 5 років тому +1

      Learnt today that you can plug an RJ11 into an RJ45 socket.

  • @duncanwright4509
    @duncanwright4509 4 роки тому

    This is interesting, but I thought having two master sockets wasn't allowed?

    • @SBBUK
      @SBBUK 3 роки тому

      This isn't two master sockets, its a single master socket that connects to 2 extensions that happen to be inside a single faceplate.

  • @mpozar1
    @mpozar1 7 років тому

    How can ethernet cable use all 4 or 8 wires if regular phone jack takes flow on only 2-elelementary wires so I I ask anyone he will say that all vires are needed for internet to work so routers usually get 12v from socket how can singal flow from 2-wires to 4 or 8 if routers can have only 2 in the middle and in the end I dont understand it best if anyone can explain so more than 4-wires can only be used for Dsl without splitter and phone wire doesnt have plus or minus 2 wires are working as 2 plus or 2 minus only one twisted pair is used for to Router to work correctly if anyone can explaint it ?

  • @chrisstaines8557
    @chrisstaines8557 3 роки тому

    Hi I have sent you a message on your facebook page and a comment on another video of your but you have not got back to me.

  • @window469wow3
    @window469wow3 3 роки тому

    10:09

  • @harleyme3163
    @harleyme3163 5 років тому

    uh. I'm sorry but thats not how to "extend" adsl. Since adsl has a master range of 5 miles, any added phone line will simply increase ping and probably make it slower... me being 5.2 miles from the telco my bandwidth is limited to 5 mbit but...
    if you turn your old "rooter" ? into a repeater, you can extend the range.
    "r out er" aka a route not a root :-)

    • @eilidhmm
      @eilidhmm 5 років тому

      That's just the british pronunciation of route and router... And we're talking extensions of maybe 10 metres if that, it's not going to do much compared to being 5 miles from the exchange.