Loving all the comments on this video. I also love this couple more than Anne-Ann ship despite their toxic relationship dynamics. I'm more drawn to their fiery tension and convoluted romantic relationship. I've just recently re-watched Gentleman Jack and purchased Ms. Helena Whitbread's book on Anne Lister's journals to delve more into her life, thoughts, adventures, and romances esp. with Mariana. I find it very interesting to know based on an interview that Ms. Whitbread gave about Mariana's tactic of dropping a hanky in order to 'further' catch Anne's attention - further, bec. Mariana's pretty visage already previously caught Anne's attention. Furthermore, in the drama, Mariana mentioned of the misery and anxiety she endured after being seen with the manly-looking Anne while they were in Scarborough. Per Ms. Whitbread's account, their relationship already started to mellow out from that day onward after Anne took to heart her hurtful words. Anyway, looking forward to season 2 of Gentleman Jack. What a gem of a show. The production is exquisite and all the actors are perfectly cast and stellar in their characterisations. Thank you for this lovely fan-vid. I've already subscribed for support as well as in anticipation of future uploads once the show resumes.
ngl this made me tear up. i stan anne and ann but something about mariana was so special to anne. she was like a safety net who was basically always there for her but it was super toxic. they also have a lot of history together. :( this is good lol
These two are also my guilty pleasure. I get the sense while watching the series, that Anne is more 'Herself' with Marianna than she seems to be with Ann. Granted, they have a long history together & Anne's not trying to 'court' Marianna, so isn't worried about putting her best foot forward, so to speak, but there is an ease of being, between the two, that gives their relationship a real & honest quality. So, thank you for this x
I’ve no objection with what u said...but being with someone who is married to another man is too painful..i’ve been in Anne’s shoe..what can i say is these kind of people are actually selfish..they want both in 1 time..which doesnt cause hurt to them but us..and me..have left this kind of person & made me live my life far much better without her..
can't wait to see more of mariana in season 2! there's this connection between anne and mariana that you dont see with walker... anne was more of herself when with mariana.. the timing wasn't right for both of them back in the day.. I think if they were in our time now , they both probably end up together cuz love is enough, despite money and what society think of them..
@@fieqakent I think they loved each other but Mariana was not as down the earth as Ann Walker. Mariana took Anne and their relationship for granted too many times. She used Anne as a diversion or convience booty call but she never wanted to leave her emotionally abusive husband cause she cared about her status. Mariana abused Anne Lister's kindness and she wanted to keep her as her emotional life raft. She became jealous over the fact that Anne was moving forward her from her and she became as argumentative as her husband to Anne and belittled her. Ann Walker is better for her cause Ann loves Miss Lister for who she is.
Marianne was the love of Ann Lister life and her sexual equal. She was not equally smitten by Ann Walker but needed her money. She was also very protective of Ann Walker who had mental health issues and an awful greedy family who had her declared insane after Ann Lister death in order to get their paws on her property. Ann Walker was strong enough to get Al's body back from Georgia to Yorkshire via Moscow. Also strong enough to resist Ann Lister's demands for marriage and money for long enough to keep a fair degree of control over her assets.
i'd actually really liked these two together because they seemed more like equals, compared to anne&ann. but that scene where mariana argues with anne and reveals that she was embarrassed to be seen with her because she was so masculine absolutely broke me. i really couldn't stand her after that and ended up rooting for ann.
can't wait to see more of mariana in season 2! there's this connection between anne and mariana that you dont see with walker... anne was more of herself when with mariana.. the timing wasn't right for both of them back in the day.. I think if they were in our time now , they both probably end up together cuz love is enough, despite money and what society think of them..
DeRossi95 definable. Anne was clearly comfortable around Marianna. Just look at how she and her sister were acting like they usually do, squabbling, with Marianna there as if she was apart of the family. They’ve been doing that for 16 years I think it was a great directing choice to have them do that.
I agree. The relantion with Miss Walker is more pratice and less emotional. Anne feels more care about Miss Walker. In another hands, with Mariana, Miss Lister talks to equal, and Mariana, although dont seems, is more mature that Miss Walker.
I don't like much these two because I think that when you love, really, you fight agaist everything, you don't try to change your partner but you improve yourself and cross the limits, just for love (as Ann Walker did). So the difference is fighting or not. That's the point
While Lister fell for her, they weren't lovers, because of Hobart's hesitancy. Their relationship didn't really progress beyond flirting and a few kisses.
You deserve that sub. Your song choices are very good and your videos fascinate me. You really create a mood with those clips. As for Anne Lister, I highly reccomend reading more about her (starting with a book about Eliza Raine, going through her diaries and, if you're still interested after that her documents). The west yorkshire archive service provides access to her diaries. She was a very interesting woman. The show is great, but it doesn't showcase even one tenth of her life.
@@thankyoujames7257 The one I have is called "The early life of miss Anne Lister and the curious tale of miss Eliza Raine". It's a short book and it contains a lot of letters, but even skimming through it gives you a general idea of what her life was like. Disappointing if you're looking for a literary masterpiece, but a good starting point :-)
Según la historia Mariana fue su verdadero gran amor, el vestirse de negro es porque Mariana decide casarse . Aparentemente nunca dejó de amarla... La relación entre ellas es siempre de complicidad...
Finally getting around to watching Gentleman Jack. Anne and Mariana were the one true pair on the show. Better chemistry between the actress which led to more intense scenes. Alas, Mariana lacked Ann's courage to make the plunge that Anne desired from her love. But, piss-posh; Anne and Mariana were the better couple
They're good together so sad mariana can't accept the love she had for anne. Anne really did love her but now she's in love with Ann Walker
Loving all the comments on this video. I also love this couple more than Anne-Ann ship despite their toxic relationship dynamics. I'm more drawn to their fiery tension and convoluted romantic relationship. I've just recently re-watched Gentleman Jack and purchased Ms. Helena Whitbread's book on Anne Lister's journals to delve more into her life, thoughts, adventures, and romances esp. with Mariana. I find it very interesting to know based on an interview that Ms. Whitbread gave about Mariana's tactic of dropping a hanky in order to 'further' catch Anne's attention - further, bec. Mariana's pretty visage already previously caught Anne's attention. Furthermore, in the drama, Mariana mentioned of the misery and anxiety she endured after being seen with the manly-looking Anne while they were in Scarborough. Per Ms. Whitbread's account, their relationship already started to mellow out from that day onward after Anne took to heart her hurtful words. Anyway, looking forward to season 2 of Gentleman Jack. What a gem of a show. The production is exquisite and all the actors are perfectly cast and stellar in their characterisations.
Thank you for this lovely fan-vid. I've already subscribed for support as well as in anticipation of future uploads once the show resumes.
I swear 30% of the views is just me rewatching it.
When we love, we must accept the limits of the other person because all of us are limited in more or less level.
Perfect song for the video! Poor Anne Lister with her heart broken!
Beautiful song. It's sad when you love someone you can't have.
The problem with her I have it that she would not except Anne for who she was, wanted to change her. Sorry, this is not love.
I know. I like the actress more than the character. :)
ngl this made me tear up. i stan anne and ann but something about mariana was so special to anne. she was like a safety net who was basically always there for her but it was super toxic. they also have a lot of history together. :( this is good lol
After reading Helena Whitbread's 'the secret diaries of Miss Anne Lister', it's extraordinary to see the history of Mariana and Anne's relationship 😍
These two are also my guilty pleasure. I get the sense while watching the series, that Anne is more 'Herself' with Marianna than she seems to be with Ann. Granted, they have a long history together & Anne's not trying to 'court' Marianna, so isn't worried about putting her best foot forward, so to speak, but there is an ease of being, between the two, that gives their relationship a real & honest quality. So, thank you for this x
I’ve no objection with what u said...but being with someone who is married to another man is too painful..i’ve been in Anne’s shoe..what can i say is these kind of people are actually selfish..they want both in 1 time..which doesnt cause hurt to them but us..and me..have left this kind of person & made me live my life far much better without her..
can't wait to see more of mariana in season 2! there's this connection between anne and mariana that you dont see with walker... anne was more of herself when with mariana.. the timing wasn't right for both of them back in the day.. I think if they were in our time now , they both probably end up together cuz love is enough, despite money and what society think of them..
@@fieqakent I think they loved each other but Mariana was not as down the earth as Ann Walker. Mariana took Anne and their relationship for granted too many times. She used Anne as a diversion or convience booty call but she never wanted to leave her emotionally abusive husband cause she cared about her status. Mariana abused Anne Lister's kindness and she wanted to keep her as her emotional life raft. She became jealous over the fact that Anne was moving forward her from her and she became as argumentative as her husband to Anne and belittled her.
Ann Walker is better for her cause Ann loves Miss Lister for who she is.
beautifully said!
Marianne was the love of Ann Lister life and her sexual equal. She was not equally smitten by Ann Walker but needed her money. She was also very protective of Ann Walker who had mental health issues and an awful greedy family who had her declared insane after Ann Lister death in order to get their paws on her property. Ann Walker was strong enough to get Al's body back from Georgia to Yorkshire via Moscow. Also strong enough to resist Ann Lister's demands for marriage and money for long enough to keep a fair degree of control over her assets.
Not gonna lie I like seeing Anne and Marianna together 🎩
Me too.
i'd actually really liked these two together because they seemed more like equals, compared to anne&ann. but that scene where mariana argues with anne and reveals that she was embarrassed to be seen with her because she was so masculine absolutely broke me. i really couldn't stand her after that and ended up rooting for ann.
can't wait to see more of mariana in season 2! there's this connection between anne and mariana that you dont see with walker... anne was more of herself when with mariana.. the timing wasn't right for both of them back in the day.. I think if they were in our time now , they both probably end up together cuz love is enough, despite money and what society think of them..
DeRossi95 definable. Anne was clearly comfortable around Marianna. Just look at how she and her sister were acting like they usually do, squabbling, with Marianna there as if she was apart of the family. They’ve been doing that for 16 years I think it was a great directing choice to have them do that.
I agree. The relantion with Miss Walker is more pratice and less emotional. Anne feels more care about Miss Walker. In another hands, with Mariana, Miss Lister talks to equal, and Mariana, although dont seems, is more mature that Miss Walker.
@@dayanasaboia2109 less emotional? They literally cried for days, because Ann‘s family kept intervening
@@jollyfighter7319 😂
I don't like much these two because I think that when you love, really, you fight agaist everything, you don't try to change your partner but you improve yourself and cross the limits, just for love (as Ann Walker did). So the difference is fighting or not. That's the point
I never saw Mariana like how I saw her in this video. This is so heartbreaking. She is like the TOTGA of Ann. :(
Everyone can relate to this
that final scenes(of video) were Ms Hobart wedding(ann lister second lover)
While Lister fell for her, they weren't lovers, because of Hobart's hesitancy. Their relationship didn't really progress beyond flirting and a few kisses.
You deserve that sub. Your song choices are very good and your videos fascinate me. You really create a mood with those clips.
As for Anne Lister, I highly reccomend reading more about her (starting with a book about Eliza Raine, going through her diaries and, if you're still interested after that her documents). The west yorkshire archive service provides access to her diaries.
She was a very interesting woman. The show is great, but it doesn't showcase even one tenth of her life.
Esej Snake what is the book called about Eliza raine?
@@thankyoujames7257 The one I have is called "The early life of miss Anne Lister and the curious tale of miss Eliza Raine". It's a short book and it contains a lot of letters, but even skimming through it gives you a general idea of what her life was like. Disappointing if you're looking for a literary masterpiece, but a good starting point :-)
Did you get my reply? If not, I can write it again.
I don’t like Marianna, but damn do I love Lydia Leonhardt
Lydia Leonard. I like them both, her and Mariana.
Beautiful video. Thanks for sharing this.
Según la historia Mariana fue su verdadero gran amor, el vestirse de negro es porque Mariana decide casarse . Aparentemente nunca dejó de amarla... La relación entre ellas es siempre de complicidad...
Una pregunta en qué episodios de la serie sale con Mariana ? Osea cuando tienen más momentos juntas?! Tienen buena química también jajaja 😄😘
Finally getting around to watching Gentleman Jack. Anne and Mariana were the one true pair on the show. Better chemistry between the actress which led to more intense scenes. Alas, Mariana lacked Ann's courage to make the plunge that Anne desired from her love. But, piss-posh; Anne and Mariana were the better couple
Totally agree.
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what's with the awful whiney song with this video?