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Squier vs Fender Stratocaster (Is More Expensive REALLY Better?)
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- Опубліковано 14 кві 2021
- Squier vs Fender Stratocaster (Is More Expensive REALLY Better?)
A fairly affordable Start vs a somewhat more expensive Strat. Is it really worth the money to get the Fender? The guitars are the Squier Classic Vibe and the Fender Player Series. Neither of them are terribly expensive, and I have reviewed both earlier. This should be an interesting guitar comparison.
So, here's today's Stratocaster shootout.
Enjoy!
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I like cheap guitars, if it goes bad with some flaw, well, it's cheap, and if it comes out good, great, it's cheap. 😁😁😁
True that :)
Cheap guitars are my way of life lol.. the only one I own that is above 500 is my player telecaster, the rest squiers and a esp ltd 101fm I paid 80.00 for lol..
@@MrPolevaulter nice chops, and reviews..
Fender player series lead III
@@robphillips8351 Cheers!
Oh that's the comparision i was looking for. There aren't too much videos of this exact comparision. Thank you so much!
No problem!
They feel different depends what you are looking for. I like thin lightweight strats and a thinner neck that’s why I like the CV. All the Players felt like a slab of granite
I had exactly the same problems with my classic vibe 70's. The fret board was dry as a desert which causes frets to be sharp. After soaking laurel with lemon it immediately felt better. I did sand down the frets and crowned them the best to my abilities. It had also problems with tuning stability. I spent quite a while setting it up but finally I got it right (I learnt how to do that on this guitar) and now this is really nice and playable instrument. I bought also an American Performer HSS few month ago at good price after discount ( just below £ 800 which is a bargain ) and the quality difference is really noticeable. Well set up (even if a little to high articulation for my liking) and great finish with no blemishes, no problems with frets and tuning. The Yosemite pickups sound better too. However, if you want a strat to practice and short of money, with some help and patience Squire can be a good instrument. It may vary from instrument to instrument and this is why it is always a good idea to check guitar at the local guitar strore (if you can). Many reviewers say that Squires are great out of box...perhaps some are, but mine and the one Elmo has were not and had similar problems. On Squire the bridge pickup is not great., however neck and middle sound 'straty' and actually nice. I checked the resistance on both and on Squire Neck is 5.54 middle 5.88 bridge 6.16 whereas on Performer Yosemite pickups are 7.60 neck, 8.00 middle and 7.65 (but this one is humbucker). Yosemites are warmer but produce more defined sounds.
The fret board does not make the fret sharp, it’s not a sharpening tool. It feels sharp because they protrude now. BTW guitarist keep saying fret sprout, sprouting implies growth, frets don’t grow, the fretboard shrunk. If the fret sprouts it would mean if you measured a fret and it was 2 inches after sprouting it would measure let’s say 2.3 inches, which doesn’t happen.
I will dare to make an educated guess from my experience that the first generations of Classic Vibe series that came from the (China) Yako factory had much better Quality control overall. My own 'CY' serial numbered CV 50's Strat from 2011 luckily even came with a Perfectly Quartersawn neck grain from the factory with perfectly flawless fretwork too. I still have it and it was definitely good enough to install a SuperVee BladeRunner bridge into it plus a 920D Custom Shop pre-wired pickguard upgrade too with a set of Lace Sensor RWB pickups and now it's the kind of featherweight Alder body instrument that I could have paid over three times more for from Fender or Kiesel. There was nothing wrong with it "as is" but the Quality and feel demanded that I keep it and customize it for 'maximum performance' and longevity.
Over the past two years I’ve played a players series and classic vibe 50s. The classic vibe was the superior guitar in terms of feel. I don’t use tremolo at all so that would be something to weary off. I might find a prebuilt pickguard off a players series and swap it in to the classic vibe.
Honestly if you want to have the strat experience, the player series is the best value for money. The classic vibe sounds great even with its stock pups and if you can go and try the guitar yourself I'm sure there are pieces that are resonant and have less neck issues. Squier have to make compromises here to keep the cost down and a lot of that is in the hardware. As I've found out the hard way over the past few years, beginner guitars and the wiggle stick don't really gel together. If you want to work that trem bar the minimum you gotta do is get yourself Mexican strat and swap to the nut to a bone or tusq nut. The squier trem system is just not made for consistent use anyway.
I honestly don't look for guitars by what they sound, but by how they play. Pick ups are the easiest mod one can make, however good hardware, neck playability, tuning stability and weight are either expensive or impossible to mod. I have a CV 50s, and for about 6 years it's been my main guitar, but my needs have changed, and I've just bought a Player Series for these reasons: two point tremolo, HSS configuration, 22 frets.
At first I was in love with my CV, but I tried to use the vintage tremolo, no success. My tuners are quite weird, both E string have gear ratio 1:7 (yes, I'm not crazy), while the others are 1:14. Tuning my guitar is a hard task. There's a fret buzz that no guitar tech in my city can fix, pots are the cheapest ones but work well. Configuration SSS is a limite for me, I need a more versatile guitar, and something that has bothered me lately is soloing with 21 frets.
In Canada the Squier hss or sss is $559, the MIM Fender in hss is $1149 & $999 in sss. Il buy the Fender one day, for now it's the Cort & Peavey (current project) strat. Nice review Elmo!
What a coincidence, I bought my fender player as my first electric guitar a few days ago after considering these two. Was able to get a mint condition (supposedly) one on reverb for about $600 or 500 euros (including shipping and tax fees). Great to hear you play
You know Amazon has the Player Series Strat and Tele but only in Lake Placid Blue for $650 each. I love the CV Strat but I want a Tele also so maybe the Player in Lake Placid Blue is next for me. I mean $650 new !!
The CV could be a lifetime guitar, it's got everything a great guitar needs, and even cheaper ones can be lifetime companions. I prefer the Player due to the color options, higher grade metal, quality/contentment over saving a bit of money (rarely buy guitars, so negligible).
Yeah, they're both good.
I own both guitars and like them both. I have not had any tuning issues on either (I don't ever use the trem). The Squier has never had any issues with fret sprout. However, the Player Strat now has some serious fret sprout all the way down the neck. So does my Player Telecaster. Neither had that issue when I bought them. I even had them do a plek on the Strat when I bought it. It was perfect when it arrived. Within a month it had fret sprout. It has a maple fret board and has been stored in the same room as the Squier in the same guitar rack. So, alot of the time it's just the luck of the draw. I'm sure that there are great Player Strats and not so great Player Strats out there and the same with the Squiers.
In the States...749 for players series...and 449 for the squier. These went up 50 bucks each a few months back. Cheers...and Thank you
I build my own guitars and I like Squier necks. I try to buy necks over 10 years old because they're typically very sorted and stable. When I do buy newer necks, say a year older or less, I don't mount them right away. I let them acclimate for a month or two, then dress the frets as needed. Usually does the trick.
I’ve been pleasantly surprised by a Squier Classic Vibe Pine Telecaster I picked up used a year or so ago.
A really solid instrument for sure. I purchase my example because it has a AA Flamed Maple1-Piece neck that is amazing considering it is a Squier!
I think with the less expensive guitars (or anything really) you do risk the hit or miss as far as getting a good guitar.
Great video, thank you Elmo.
What the more expensive Fender has going for it is better body wood used, that alone is worth the extra expense (IMO).
Cheers!
Great graph skills man.
I remember buying my 2005 American Strat in 2006 (last year's model) for $750 US including a case. I miss the days when Fender guitars were appropriately priced.
Weird. I got a 2012 usa standard for 750 used during the pandemic. I’m glad to know it was appropriate
Yeah i got my USA Standard Strat for £750 in 2007 in the UK now similar guitar is around £1000 but still worth it as they last longer , sound better and will hold their value , Squiers never hold their value , i can get a made in Japan Strat from Squier for like £200 at my local Pawn Shop lol
Hey bro greetings from Tampere! Just ordered the 70s vintage Squier in vintage white based on your last video review on it.
Cool! Hope you like it 😊
I got a classic vibe 50's with the maple neck, It outshines my player by a country mile.
Hey David!
Is your CV 50 a made in Indonesia or made in China?
I have to agree with you. My player felt poorly finished although great materials. The squier is flawless. Far better neck and tone.
I had a Player Strat for a few years, before I sold it. Great guitar, action and intonation were great out of the box. If you want to nick pick, the fret ends could have been finished better, but not sprouting. I would buy again. The CV line is great, but I agree with you. The MIM is worth the extra money.
The CV pickups are designed to sound like vintage, and the Players are more grunty. I like the diffence as I have both, if the nut on the CV,s are cut right they stay in tune better, the bodies are usually different thickness, squiers are thinner. I like both as they are different. You are correct about not going below a CV as I believe they are now Indonesian and have a bone nut
That is true !
Honestly the Squier sounds much fuller and better for my taste. Give it a setup and or locking tuners/Graphtech Nut for a few Euros and you are good to go!
yeah I think locking tuners would solve the tuning problem
Elmo you are bang on with this review! A guitar has to feel right to keep playing , pickups you can deal with later, it has to have good bones as they say or you might as well trash it! Thanks Elmo
I wish there was a Player strat with a flatter fretboard. But the only option to get 12" fretboard on a Fender is pro/deluxe models. Or a Squier Conemporary. Or just buy a Player and swap neck, but that doesn't sound good: buy a new guitar, swap neck, then swap pups, then swap bridge, then swap body... oh man, where is the guitar I bought? )
One of my Guitars is a Squire Deluxe in daphne blue 2016, 2 point trem, Duncan Designed pup's and totally stock! love it and would never part with it. The only thing i would change would be to put a coil stacked YJM in the bridge maybe. I put Clock cog fine oil in the nut and has always stayed in tune and the bridge is floated.
I like the Squiers. Still have my 84 and got a 40th Strat for 300. Good value.
I have had the player and now the CV. The CV is far and away the better guitar. Sounds plays and looks better.
I have a problem counting to 22 as well hahahaha
I'm dealing with a squire of a friend and having the same issues but also had to replace the pickguard, pots, pickups and now the jack is crunchy. Might be an ok guitar when I finally finish it.
The wood isn't cured properly on the squires. That's why all the fret sprout and bowing issues.
Avoid is my personal recommendation. Not worth the hassle. Tremolo sucks too.
Good vid per usual, Elmo!
Thanks!
I found a very good CV 60s (that i tried in the store) and also found a set of Fender Pure Vintage 65 pickups for 150$ brand-new, so for 620$ total (with a case) i got a guitar that plays nice and has much nicer pickups than the Player strat (which costs 765$ where i live).
Overall, i'm really happy with it!
Nice comparison vid Elmo and the Nato joke was my kind of humour 👏 ... I love that Tidepool blue finish with maple board and if I was to get a Player it's the combo I'd go for.
Cheers!
My player strat didn’t come well set up from factory, at least I have learnt to set it up... but the nut is not properly cut (intonation problems at lower frets) and I should take it to a luthier. For a beginner I recommend to buy any guitar from a local store for having it set up and focus on learning, not blaming the instrument.
Good advice.
Owning both an Fender American Pro II Strat and a Squier CV 50s Strat and given the choice as to what to do if I were allowed only 1 upgrade on the CV, it would be the bridge/trem system. Absolutely. No question. Everything else is either livable or great.
i bought that exact tidepool strat about 6 months ago and do not regret it. Well done, Elmo. Good review
Cheers!
I got a tidepod tele with a shipping gash in the body the best $340 I’ve ever spent. A scrap of alder some primer and 2 cans of apple red she’s better than new....
Thank you EJK! I totally agree with you. And there are great deals that can be found on used Fender strats!
Cheers!
Owned both a squier and a fender Stratocaster. Fender just felt better in my hands and feel is everything when it comes to playing for me. If budget is an issue you work with what you have but if you have the money you probably won’t regret spending a few extra hundred bucks.
can u explain more om the different feel between playing the squier and fender?
Great content!
Being binging a lot of Squier / fender videos both of yours and others, apparently there doesn't exist a range where the guitars stays in tune 😂😂 first couple recommendations on every video change the head stocks change the pick ups lol
Thanks!
As a person who has been using squier for many years, I can say that there is not much difference tonally with the same magnetic combinations. However, there are differences in the quality of workmanship. But these differences are not enough to cover the price difference.
I agree with you about not buying a Squier Affinity Strat. I have a Squier Classic Vibe Mustang which I really like but my Squier Affinity Strat is pretty rubbish all round.
Nice!! In this case CV is not bad tone to my ears. In my case I prefer my ex 60 reissue Fender Strato to my 60s CV made by 2013.
I had owned Fender MEX road worn TL which was second hand and it's neck had been shrunk so it was repaired within warranty period. My CV neck isn't shrunk anyway.
I have a Squier VM 70's Strat .
I've had it several years now.
After changing out the saddles it's been great ! No issues.
Paid $200 For it. It's just as playable as my nephews MIM .
Well worth the money and I see NO reason to " upgrade".
Hi Elmo..I have 2 strats ..one American standard 97 rosewood fretboard and one classic vibe 50 maple fretboard..sometimes I feel better with the squier..but yesterday I finally realized that the American is very good too..different sound.. different playbility ..but still good..I was wandering about selling the American for like 900 euro and maybe buy a player and with the money saved an acoustic too. Did you ever try 97 strato USA and what do you think about it?
Nope, never tried that one.
Agreed.... good vid. A good set of Lollars in that Fender would make most of us very happy indeed!...
I think there may be another category that may warrant another vid which is becoming more popular.
The 'build it yourself' Strat. If you have owned a bunch of these cheaper instruments as I had, by 2000 when I got to looking for the guitar that I really wanted, it was not available from the major brands, at least not exactly.... I ended up getting some money together and spec'd out what I wanted and ordered all the parts and built the thing myself... To this day it is my #1 and although the 'Fender Custom Shop' do some beautiful instruments I wouldn't trade it for one from there (although id love to give them all the specs and see what it would be like!?!?! and compare the two!)... So im wondering if you could do a vid like '$1500 Custom Strat Challenge'. Could you build something that would challenge a CS Strat for $1500?. I think its quite likely if you spend the money wisely!
I think your main guitar is a 'Custom' job?....I think the beauty of the strat is that its just so tweakable...
Yeah, my main guitar (in these videos at least), is a custom mahogany Strat.
Nice and honest review, or so it feels.
Can I ask what kind of pots and switch you are using for your strats with HS-3 pickups?
Thanks! You can, but I don't know the answer :D
I'd have to ask my luthier what he's put in there. On the Fenders it's just the stock stuff.
@@MrPolevaulter haha okej, I’ll have to keep researching then😎
Once again a very helpful video.. just ordered the classic vibe David Gilmour inspired 50's strat..
Cool bananas :)
I bought a classic vibe as a mod-platform. Its getting a bit ridiculous 'cause i've changed so much. Fender locking tuners, Fender vintage noiseless pickups, Clapton mid-boost with a fishman battery as a back plate and a fender bridge. Its weird... But I love it :D
What did you do to put the tuners? CV have old style Klusons and post I’d different size, different screw configuration?
@@bluwng My local tech made the swap without much trouble. It needed new screw holes and stuff but he did a really clean job.
American standard , the standard price has been suprisingly consistent over the years - 700 USD. the fender tuners and floyd rose make a big difference - its all about the pickups - squier pickups have less range and sound like playing in a paper towel roll tube , but ... but... change out the pickups or A pickup , and you have a very close match, but tuners and bridges are important if your planning on staying with it - the rule as been, a person wants to play guitar , get them a squier and see how it works out - if they are good and love playing , tell them to get an american standard or deluxe model with floating floyd rose bridge - or just upgrade everything on it (tuners , pickups( or ones used most) and bridge (makes a difference) - a squier can be an american standard, its just nobody does it because the costs equalize - but i love it when i see someone who doesnt care about the prestige and makes a move like that - like a sleeper car - booomm - nothing wrong with a squire ultimately when everything is factored in.
honestly I got a really good Squire...I swapped out the pickups to seymour duncans...THEN I changed the neck to a killer CS rosewood board! big difference...Now Im lookin at a new body by Warmouth!! It has improved INCREDIBLY
Yeah I got a Squier cv 60s tele custom that I put an Allparts fat tele neck on it, sprayed it with nitro and its a beast !
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Cats and graph. Legit. Mr Elmo, I found a lovely used Fender Highway One, which was abused by a prior owner, but fixed up by the chap who I purchased it from. A little more TLC and I suspect I am good for my Strat desires.
(Who am I kidding, this will start multiplying my S type collection due to increased curiosity triggering GAS)
Haha :D GAS is a real problem :)
First, the player series Strat is entry level, not expensive. You are basically buying a slightly better build and a Fender logo. Now compare the Squier to my American Professional II that comes in at £1,869.00, and you will see both the Squier and the Player fall very short .
I've got a Fender player series stratacaster sss buttercream on my guitar list.
I just orderded a black Fender telecaster player series
Cool bananas :)
More proof the tone is in the hands friends, nice work E.
Thanks!
I bought my daughter a squire mustang bullet for $160. I thrashed it for 2 hours and it did not go out of tune. A couple things I don't like about it the pick ups sound horrible and it's so light it has neck dive. Other than that it's a really good guitar.
Why wouldn't you go with the Affinity? I bought one because I wanted a Strat and it's quite good. Frets needed a good polish. I'm planning to replace the pickups and bridge, but it's a really good guitar (other that the dull pickups).
Because the one I tried wasn't very good.
@@MrPolevaulter I’ve got 2 incredible Affinity’s - great necks, v.low action and both ring like a bell, unplugged - tonal monsters! First one was £25 on Ebay, 2nd just given to me! And with minimal modifications They’re both better than any expensive Fender Strat I’ve owned/played previously btw.
You've managed to make a video on every question I've had so far! I thank you kindly, Sir. New subscriber, love the channel. Been playing on and off for almost 30 years, and am on the lookout for a more budget friendly Strat option. I have a '96 (bought new, after exams), Fender American Standard in Olympic White but it got a slight ding and almost lost my mind! Player sounds better... Damn. Cheers for the video.
Thanks :)
I ordered a Fender Stratocaster HSS player series, that way I have the best of both words and won't really need a Noise gate or another guitar. I have no plans to do any pick up swap with it. Great video overall. I think its no contest that by comparison the Mexican Strat is much nicer than the cheap squire, heck its even nicer than the really cheap Starcaster by Fender Strat body guitar (which is not a real strat) and I can't even find any video comparisons on that. My first guitar is that cheap Starcaster by Fender guitar that could be bought at a walmart or costco, I'm going to sell that when I get the chance to make room for my first real Strat.
Players series all day. The CV neck finish bothers me. I’m one of the rare ones who actually prefers the affinity series to the CV series.
Player for me too, but the Affinity I tried was no good.
How you doing Elmo? I bought the same identical guitar in 2019? I haven't had any problems but I'm going to put a little'59 Seymour Duncan in the bridge pickup because my bridge pickup doesn't sound good. I mostly use the second position. I also bought a fender mustang 25 because I live in an apartment, it's OK. Like you said I like the playability. Cheers mate, the Squier works for me. Peace.
I'm well, thanks. And you?
Anyone try learning as a complete beginner guitar lessons from Youician? Im thinking about jumping onboard...
My Indonesian made squire strat does not have the tuning problem.
Squier classic vibe,is great had mine years,no problems with it at all,,,,love its sound,,
Hi Elmo,gee you play nice blues man.
I kinda think the blue one was slightly more 'Spanky '?
Keep up the great work, stay cool.
Stay Funny,also !
-I like the CV,but I'm a sucker for C.A.R. !!
Cheers! :)
Ok, now I know you can play, so I trust what you say.
My first guitar was a Squire Affinity and then I got a late 80s Korea Made Squire II. But have always found myself looking to get into A Fender. I have a 2003 MIM Fender Stratocaster coming from Reverb. I can’t wait to get into the weeds on that guitar.
There's been a lot of shoot outs and there been 2 or 3 third party companies that their affordable guitars are better than the CV series'in price and sound like Donner, monoprice especially their HSS with string thru and HT both options on the same guitar and I wish I bought it instead of replacing my Squire Bullet HSS HT and I got the Monoprice Tele after I bought the Squire Bullet because I had to replace my Squire Bullet Tele that both got stolen. Sweetwater did graciously setup my Squire Bullet because the first one I got was defective.
I don't have the tuning problems on on my Classic Vibe strat you have.
Lack of finesse?
I'm quite distracted by the length of your hair hanging into the guitar strings for this video, and I'm also jealous that you have more on top your head than I do. My ponytail gets that way too when I let it go too long. Except, thinning baldness for me. Grrrrrrr!!
Don't worry about it. I'm heading in the same direction :D
I would get the Player in a heartbeat. They are crazy good guitars for the money.
I would say though that the extra upcharge for a American Professional one is not worth it.
I've owned two American Standard strats and they didn't play any better than any mexican made one I've ever played.
My mexican made Precision bass have started to get a bit of fret sprout after 3 years though,
but it's not that bad, and it won't shred my hands during a gig. I also live in a very dry enviroment so it's to be expected.
I have a couple MIM strats from the line before the player and love em. Changed the pickups and upgraded trem block and made new nuts for both. Mexican Fenders rock. The player has one too many frets though.
There's an idea for a video.
What are your 3 recommended pickups one could consider swapping into the Player Strat?
12:21 Seymour yjm furry, stacked humbuckers or dimarzio hs3.
What Dragan said.
@@MrPolevaulter sorry Elmo, didn't intend to step on your toes, was just trying to help. I'm glad you took it well. That's only one of the reasons I love your Channel, there are many more reasons. Cheers!
@@dragan4658 Don't worry, it's good you helped 😊
Thats not a USA model
Go with the Monoprice Indio Cali Classic...
Holy moly this guy can play!
Cheers!
Being Scottish i love the nato joke lol Love your videos Elmo! 🤘
Haha :D Thanks :)
Cool Video, I' ve got both Strats and they are both nice 🙏
Cool, thanks!
I’ve had my Classic Vibe for 6 years and no issue and no sudden fret sprouts. FYI I feel guitarist are not very science savvy, frets don’t sprout, the fretboard shrunk.
That's exactly what fret spout means. The wood dried (shrunk), hence the frets sprout.
@@MrPolevaulter sprout by definition describes growth not shrinkage.
Wow! U really shredded the Fender! 🤩👍🎶🎉
Thanks a lot!
I just got a classic vibe. my first guitar in 12 years. I had to return it
The frets were more popped out then they were "sprouted". 7 popped/lifted frets all up.
The 11th fret had such a bad install, they had chipped off lacquer of the actual fretboard and caused a huge indentation on the binding side.
The last 21st fret was so much higher then the rest, that a proper initial set up couldnt even be completed cos the 21st fret had to leveled so badly.
I had got it after constantly hearing about how amazing it was for the price and about how the neck was quite small and slim. While it mightve felt small i couldnt give it a proper feel cos the strings were too high to play properly. and couldnt be fixed without an extra cost to fix it.
Not worth the risk of a supposed potentially good guitar for the price. in this "golden age of cheap guitars" we're in, I feel ripped off. Do not recommend
Sorry to hear.
I got a Epiphone Les Paul. They raved online about how great they were and I watched reviews on UA-cam by well known suppliers. It looked and sounded great online. So I took the plunge. When it arrived it looked great but the selector switch crackled and the lacquer finish was speckly in places and dull. Not an even finish. However the worst was fret ends like a cheese greater. That was a deal breaker. No way was I going to start filing fret ends. There were also a few high frets that I found with my fret rocker. I was pissed off and sent it back. However, it cost me to return. Thing is, most couriers only insure for loss only, so if it gets damaged on return you foot the bill.
So I had to use UPS that will insure for damage in transit. Music stores are covered sending stuff out, but customers are not. So it's worth remembering that. Next guitar I'm buying I will try in store. Too much hassle returning mail order gear.
@@jonos138 Sucks to hear.
The guys i bought my Classic Vibe off paid for all postage which was nice.
Thought id try my luck on a replacement.... Probably shouldn't have. but hopefully it arrives soon and isn't as munged up as the first one... :/
Hopefully you can find a nice Epiphone too!
@@error98123 Good luck with it. Hope it works out mate. 👍
in my opinion the player is a great guitar and has also better resale value from the squier.
That's quite possible.
First one to call the tuning issues... seems a bit suspicious to me
thin neck on squier cv .....too thin
Have you tried the squire classic vibe hss strat in interested in saving for one
Not the HSS.
really tempted to get a Fender! 🧐 still a reasonable price though
13:52
War das jetzt dein Phone oder meines?
Love my 50’s classic vibe but the feel and quality of the Player are better.
Not necessarily better sounding but just all round better.
Full size pots etc on the player too.
The Squier developed fret sprout and a bowed neck AFTER you bought it?
Yep. That's common. That's why I normally let them sit a while before I review them.
I have a 1994 Korean squier strat which has had everything upgraded and it plays and sounds as good as my mates Mexican roadworn, it also has 28 years of story behind it!
Squier : check out our new contemporary range!
Elmo: look at my graph!
Love it Elmo!
:D
I have a squier cv50s strat and a player series, mim is better built, love the neck and feel, but the squier sound better to me , louder , more vintage, I paid $250 for it, but I had to set it up complety, the bridge saddles are garbage, one running peg is skipping the gear, frets were sharp, but I fixed those little thing and is over it as my lead guitar, the player sound more modern but not better to my ears.
Riff at 6:43 ???
I'll See The Light Tonight
AlNiCo 5 .. the "V" stands for 5 :)
Haha :D Cheers :)
@@MrPolevaulter cheers mate!
What's that amp under the Vox?
Custom thing made by a guy here in town. I'm not actually exactly sure what it is, since it's not mine.
why not use fender rose wood for comparison?
Because I didn't have one of those lying around.
i really wonder what elmo thinks of teles
A couple of Tele reviews coming up :)
@@MrPolevaulter Samsung or Sony ??? 😆
What pedal u use in this vdeo
Strymon Riverside.
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What an insanely good guitar player!
Thanks!
Well, I tested a dozen Fender Player Strats a year ago. I was disgusted at the poor set-up (or no setup), some of the necks were crooked in the neck pocket, the sound was terrible and one even had fret sprout although this is uncommon on maple fretboards (rosewood appears to shrink more). My genuine 1976 US-made Strat was a piece of junk. You could stick a coin in the gap between the neck and neck pocket and they painted over the frets. I sold it in the late 1970's. Along comes a no-name guitar brand and lo and behold, their Strat copy is 70% cheaper than the Player Strat and superior in quality. The el-cheapo Strat I bought recently is made of poplar so that the sound is a bit twangy - but it's still better than my 1976 Strat and better than the Player Strats. Having the letters F-E-N-D-E-R on an instrument doesn't mean much nowadays - actually, it didn't even mean much in 1976.
I think you just got unlucky. Granted I wasn't alive in the 70s so maybe quality control back then sucked, But in recent years I've tried out both a USA made Strat and Mexican made Strat and they felt really nice to play and didn't feel any sharpness or anything terrible, Didn't have poor setup either, could possibly be because guitar stores likely set them up correctly, granted they also had maple freatboards so that could be why I didn't have any issues with the frets. My made in china Starcaster by Fender guitar had rosewood and seemed like it could have fret sprout even though the frets themselves were filed down, it just didn't feel great, that and a warped neck didn't help either on the bottom end of the neck, and I got that guitar used. So I couldn't play high notes without it sounding really bad.
@@spirit_green I read in an article years after selling my US Strat that in the mid seventies, Fender changed the neck or neck pocket dimensions. Apparently, no one from the neck section told the guys in the body manufacturing section of this change so that a lot of Strats with 3mm+ gaps between neck and neck pocket were pumped out. Whoever put the guitar(s) together was either 100% legally blind or the factory just didn't care. I think that the factory just didn't care. It wasn't "bad luck". A factory that purposely ignores a major mistake on a whole run of guitars and sells their crap onto unsuspecting buyers are crooks. As my guitar back then was mail order, I had to buy it unseen. Same with spraying lacquer over the frets. What idiot would do that? I have heard that some guitar companies keep the better guitars for the US market and send the shit ones overseas. Given that every Player Strat that I touched at my local Fender dealer in Australia was junk, I'm beginning to believe that to be true. How can one get the six tremolo screw holes wrong on a US Strat anyway so that they have to be re-drilled? While people spend thousands on brand name guitars, I happily groove on my $300 Strat copies of equal or better quality. OK, some parts are better on a US Strat, for example the noiseless pickups. But I can replace them. Even after spending money on pickups, I still have a better Strat overall. Point is, I'll never buy a Strat again. Fender, Gibson and all those arrogant guitar companies have all pissed customers off. Gibson with headstocks breaking off and passing off Chinese guitar bodies as US bodies, Fender by using aluminium for their their vibrato blocks, getting measurements wrong etc. crappy paint jobs and even Ibanez where the whole 1989 shipment of RG450 had warped necks. Boy, brand loyalty = stupidity. I learnt my lesson. I never look on the headstock first. I look at quality and price.
@@knowitall1694 Wow... I had no idea they do this to overseas customers.... That's really messed up and I am sorry that has happened to you. Who's your local Fender dealer in Australia? Is it Fender themselves or a Fender Authorized Seller? If this is an Authorized seller you should get their license to sell Fender products revoked, because I don't think Fender would appreciate this kind of crap going on with their expensive lineup of guitars. Then yet again, maybe I could be wrong. Again this is severely messed up and I am sorry that happened to you. I look at quality and price myself and I've always considered Fender (at least here in the US market) to be a quality guitar company. I feel like companies for whatever really weird reason like to mess with the Australians on not just guitars but even other products as well like video games. It makes no sense.
I know you said you'll never buy another Fender, and I'm not going to defend Fender here by any means since they've made some questionable decisions to sell their high end guitars online only now and not to local stores unless they pay up $25,000 for an agreement (its what my local music store told me) but I think you would probably have the best experience in your case to get it preowned and probably setup from either a Guitar Center here in the states to order online or maybe even Replay Guitar Exchange in Tampa, Florida which is wear I ordered mine from. They're going to adjust my bridge and perform an intonation check before they ship it, despite mine being new they would have to open the box to do this and repackage it. Again, this is if you decide to change your mind later on but honestly with the experience you have dealt with, I would not blame you for not wanting another Fender product and I'm sorry that your local Fender dealer ruined that for you. That is seriously messed up and these people should truly be ashamed of themselves both Fender and the dealer if they did this to the Australian market or the overseas market in general. The fact that other guitar companies are doing this too like Gibson and Ibanez is mind blowing to me. I get the idea of making a profit but that is lucrative as hell. How they haven't lost money from this is beyond me.
@@knowitall1694 Real quick just to add this side note a bit related to how corporations are, I work for the aerospace industry, and with the case with the article you read on Fender, this sounds like document control let alone the engineers didn't bother telling the people who made the necks that they made a drawing revision to the neck when making it, so with no communication they were likely making the last revision of the neck, which does explain a lot with what happened to you. Leo Fender was alive until 1991 if I'm not mistaken so very likely I don't think he cared about the overseas market at all, plus the conditions for the factory when the early Strats were made were not great. Sadly the aerospace industry also has this problem, and that's a big no no because human lives are involved in that, and its not until a wreck or a crash that happens that kills people is when these companies get sued. The safety for workers may have gotten better but taking shortcuts on products is a serious problem. That should open up to lawsuits, at least in the aerospace industry it would.
Quality sucked liked a turbo-charged Hoover at the end of the CBS regime. The 80's MIJ Strats were the way to go back then. My first Strat was an '85 MIJ Standard and I currently own an '85 Contemporary Strat. Both have epic build quality for a fraction of the price of a USA model
Have u tried a shijie guitar 🎸
No.
@@MrPolevaulter from what I've read....its realy high quality....I took a chance and ordered one
I am on the fence regarding these two series - Squier CV 70s has that beautiful big ass headstock but it's made in China (and believe me, the quality of the hex screw in the truss rod is shit and the truss rod itself is also shit) and it's tremolo block (behind, where the springs are, is thin, also the quality of the springs is questionable). On the other hand Player has a thick block (but I think it's still made of zinc, not heavy metal, but at least it's comparable to that of any Fneder Artsist series), but it has 22 frets (which sucks)...
Fair enough.
@@MrPolevaulter we've had another setback (some hellish forces are against us :/) ... since I'm all out of money, I resorted to buying something like 30 packs of Harley Benton 009 strings from Thomann. You know I have Affinity with floating tremolo set up so that I could raise the pitch of high E by a semitone. When I put Harley Bentons on (I am in standard E tuning btw) - all hell broke loose. My guitar tech spent literally 20 plus hours incessantly trying to figure out the problem.
Again, one way truss rod system didn't help either. But, he somehow managed to re-set the guitarm, but then the springs started vibrating whenever I hit A note (doesn't matter which, those springs on my Strat seem to resonate with that freq.). So, since we are to go into the studio to record the second song in 4 days, he buried the tremolo and put a big chunk of wood to block it - and now I can't use tremolo.
It seems, that those strings ,even though they are 009 - have inherently less tension than Daddarios which I normally used (but do the math 30 sets of Daddario = 300 euros, as opposed to 30 sets of HB = 32 euros)
It should be interesting if you would demo those strings, but I know you're using E flat tuning so that might also change parameters.
All the best,my friend from far away land :)
@@scottnoricsson2023 That's really strange. I have a video coming out where I compare string brands and types, but they were pretty similar. I actually have standard, E flat and D tunings (plus some others) on my guitars.
70s Squier cv guitars were made in Indonesia not China the old CV guitars were made in China but there wasnt a 70s model. I have had a few Chinese CV guitars and never had issues with trussrod etc but I did upgrade the tremolos !
What model of amp are you using in this video?
Marshall 1987x.
Whats the point of getting the cheaper guitar if u got to spend a bunch of time and money fixin issues