Tank Chats #44 T14 and A33 (Excelsior) Assault Tanks | The Tank Museum
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Tank Chats playlist • Tank Chats from The Ta... The Second World War American T14 and British A33 (Excelsior) Assault tanks were made to the same specification as one another, neither ever went in to service and only one of each were made. They both survive at The Tank Museum.
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David's moustache is magical. It almost completely covers his mouth, and when he talks, its the only thing that moves, like a cartoon. I can only dream of ever having such a badass moustache
i can't unsee it now hahaha
A33 = chubby Cromwell
T14 = chubby Sherman
To be fair...the T14 was a natural american evolution..while the A33 seems..weird...there is no food that could make british people that fat^^
@@NashmanNash just ask what Clarkson has been snacking on
tea and crumpets with extra sugar and honey
I'd prefer THICC
"The tank was designed with British use in mind." Hence, fewer than seven machine guns.
Halinspark That's why the Americans don't call them Infantry tanks! How are you supposed to fight infantry if every single member of the crew doesn't have their own machine gun?
Lol
Seven?... That is a very conservative number of machine guns on an American tank. Probably only in Blue prints No less then 10 guns can be on an American Tank. Everyone must have a Machine Gun plus a spare in-case the first one jams and also a third just because.
Well it has 3, and 3 ports and a ring for a commander's hatch mount... so no, it doesn't have less than 7. Worst threat for an AT was always strafing planes. So American tanks almost always had hatch mounted machineguns or the option for one. The idea was, you can't expect infantry to duck for cover walking along the tank and fire a 50 caliber machinegun. Therefore give the busiest man in the tank a machinegun and see what happens. End of the day, the Germans preferred to strafe infantry rather than the tanks. While bombs were still a scary thing, they rarely scored direct hits even from a dive bomber, and the US didn't care about disabled tanks as long as the crew was fine. I think the Churchill had the same reputation, easy to damage by a bomb but quick to get back to action with the same crew.
*laughs in T-35*
The A33 looks like what you'd get if a Churchill and a Cromwell had a baby.
Well, you can think of it as a baby of Churchills role and Cromwell's chassis.
Rob Ashton it looks almost like a baby TOG
no, no it doesn't
And the baby was twice their size.
Excelsior?
David Fletcher is a walking tank encyclopedia!! Love the guy, very down to earth, with a subdue sense of humor, so British! The video's are very interesting, can't get enough of them/him!!
_Americans_ : "I hope this ain't another one of those daft infantry tanks".
_British_ : "Of course not, old boy. It's an _assault_ tank".
_Americans_ :" Now y'r' talkin', buddy !"
Which is funny because that's exactly what the M3 and M4 Sherman were 'designed' to be, U.S. doctrine being TD's and other AT gun platforms being used to specifically deal with enemy armored units, in the early to mid war. Yet, with nothing better, they mass produced Shermans with the hope of using numerical superiority over superior armor and firepower of German designs, when tank to tank combat was realized to be the norm.. Perhaps the reliance on mass production left a bad taste in their mouths for infantry tanks, esp. since their go at it used paper for armor.
@@KomamuraSajin Everything about this is wrong and clearly you have never read us tank or amour doctrine. What used paper as amour the Sherman? Its front amour was almost equal of the tiger. Please actually do some research and learn something
Chad Justice also AT gun platforms were only supposed to be used defensively and never used to pursue an enemy. That was the doctrine at least. So what did we use to kill tanks when attacking? TANKS!
@@KomamuraSajin they had something better, basically equivalent to a Panther all ready to go, developed, tested and everything but mass-produced the Sherman instead for "mobility" except with such narrow treads, the wider tracked pershing was the more mobile option as well.
Frontal armour ofnhe Sherman almost equal to that of the Tiger??
Which version of the Sherman are you talking about? Not the M3/standard version, that's for sure.
New Tank Chat? This is a good day!
Yes, yes it is a very good day when another Tank Chat arrives demanding Immediate Viewing.
Please do Tank Chats more often!
clicked for the tanks.....stayed for the mustache. Both Bloody Marvelous !!!
Tremendously enjoyable series, Big thank you to The Tank Museum
We don't get enough of your tank chats, mr. Fletcher! :-)👍
This is one of, if not the most informative series of videos on the subject of armored vehicles of the early 20th century. Very entertaining.
when I ever get around to visiting England the tank museum is my first stop
Same
“Mom can I have a T-14 armata”
“We have a T-14 at home”
T-14 at home:
Great to see Mister Fletcher again, and in a long video about two very rare ranks. I had heard of these models but never knew what their stories were. Thank you!
Ah Mr Fletcher is back :). We have missed you!
British MoD: Right, so we need a new medium tank!
Vickers Armstrong: We already gave you the Cromwell...
British MoD: Yes, but more medium!
English Electric: *calls designer over and whispers* slap more armor on the Cromwell and call it something else! They'll never know the difference!
You sir are the most stereo typical Brit I've ever seen... I love it
With the armored skirt the general silhouette reminds me a bit of the M2 Bradley IFV.
Nice to actually see them on video, the A33 looks like being the model for "Excelsior" in WOT.
I really want to go to the tank museum now, also fetchers mustache is solid.
Imagine if the T14 was built with a 17pdr in that turret and ditched the ridiculous sideskirts for something lighter. The British would have probably loved it
Great information Mr Fletcher!always love hearing you talk about tanks!
The T-14 is an awesome looking tank, it's a damn shame it wasn't developed further.
The T14 always reminds me of an M22 locust that had a heck of a round with a witchdoctor.
The tank overflow one of my favourite places at the tank museum
Pretty good chat about Assault Tanks T14 and A33, thanks Mr. Fletcher. Nice info about this unknown models of AFV. Take a look at 6:17 guys, is possible to look at the right side of the A33 prototype a Panther without the turret and still with battle damage on the fender and the zimmerit with the iron cross. Pretty cool photo. Keep posting this amazing chats David with this wonderful pictures. Thanks
Honestly, the T14 seems far more thought out as a vehicle, the A33 just seems like a "Jumbo Cromwell" where as the T14 seems to be sherman based but with an entirely different armor layout, beefed up suspension, more heavily armored bow gun port and various other upgrades, plus the GAF was a legendary engine, it became the heart of the Pershing and all it's upgraded variants over the years till the diesel M48s started rolling out.
Plus making use out of Sherman parts is a amazing idea.
Like seriously, the Ford V8 was the best tank engine of WW2, eight cylinders, everything on it is so simple a average mechanically inclined person could work on it, where as the Germans and British both choose complicated V12s based on aircraft engines.....and thus suffered heavily to mechanical break downs.
With the 76mm gun it would have been quite interesting.
"and British both choose complicated V12s based on aircraft engines.....and thus suffered heavily to mechanical break downs."
Except not? The Meteor was very reliable.
Eventually role of T14 was fulfiled by even better design, M4A3E2, which was vastly superior by virtue of being near identical to "standard issue" Sherman. Number of mechanical changes was so small, tank was allowed into service without going through proper acceptance procedure.
Retrosicotte in the field though? I can imagine that the service intervals where different between planes and tanks. And I’m sure that on a domestic airstrip there would have been more spare parts, personel and in means to keep engines running reliably.
Retrosicotte other then then the fact it was not, the British motors where of dubious reliability all though their service life, while better then the German engines, the Russian V12 diesel (that engine is still around, albeit heavily modified) and the Ford V8, both did what the meteor could do with less moving parts and less maintaince.
And if you want to keep going, British engines are the downfall of all UK tanks, do I even need to bring up chieftain?
I'd like to see the inside of the T14. It's got some kind of cool factor with me.
Awesome! Love the T14 and the Excelsior!
This particular tank looks really nice it's like a beefy sherman
Love watching these vids then building a scale model of it
Can you do a video on Tiger 2?
I agree! I would love to see a chat on the Tiger 2.
Devon Opden Dries the idiot did it not Fletch
I hope you aren't referring to David Willey. That's not a nice thing to say. Fletcher is great, but Willey's good too, he's also the Curator, which says a lot. I was delighted to brush into Willey briefly at the museum and he seems like a very friendly guy.
forgive me if I said something bad,I love david fletcher,of course.Fletcher started the tank chat series and introduced the "funnies special"(About the 79th armoured division and major General percy Hobart).
Sorry John, I meant to reply to tiger cat.
This is the baby m6. Slope armour . Didnt know existed. Thanks Sir
When fletchers time comes to go to heavens military museum every military historian will cry for 200 years
One of the only tier 2 American tanks that I ever get deflections off of. I love the look of it too.
That three tone camo on the A33 I don't think I have seen before on a British vehicle.
I'd never heard of these tanks before. Thanks David I wish you were my uncle.
I really have liked the T14! Are you thinking about restoring it?
Nicholas Moran ("The Chieftain", WoT) said once that he would love to do a "into the Chieftain s hatch" with the A33, but he can t because there is radioactivity from an broken radio set inside, so i think you can t really restore it :/
+Lukse: What? Nuclear-powered radios? What will they think of next?
Naah only a very very little bit ... the plates from the tank are already enough that standing next to the tank is not dangerous.
Chieftain explained it, you can look it up, i think it was one of his "a unoffical tour though the vehicle obsevation centre in bovington" or something like that, he makes very interesting videos.
+Harry Soar: Ha ha ha I was joking of course, but if you want to know something, say something wrong on the internet and someone will correct you :) Thanks for the info - who'd a thought that radium dials were that potent? I could swear that radium dials on watches were a thing, growing up.
There we habe the exact reason of the radiation, thank you!
Excellent vids, really interesting to learn all about those different tanks👍🇬🇧
Thank you for another great video
Tanks mr
I love this man
Hard to see what you get from a T14 that you don't get from an M4A3E2. Good call on their part.
Be still thy beating heart, a new tank chat!
Wow, I didn't even think the t14 even existed
These two are very interesting vehicles.
Excellent as usual!
I know it was prudent to keep using the M4 but I wish they had worked out the tread/suspension issues and the engine reliability and used the T14/M14 with an M1 76 instead of the M4. It would have been the American Panther rather than the Sherman Jumbo with M1 76mm
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I was just staring at this vehicle in War Thunder.
Well, whatever. Thanks @CCPTechnoloyy for recommending me this brilliant video.
Wonderful video as usual!
Love the t14 on WOT working on my 3rd mark with it.
The T14 is reminiscent of the Sherman Jumbo.
please forgive my ignorance. Why was the Churchill tank not favored? Thank you for these great tank chats. :-)
I dont know for sure. But it May have been too slow for what they wanted. But again i am not sure
I wonder if they had sloped all of the A33's upper glacis (not gust the bottom bit) and put QF3.7inch AA gun/QF 32-pounder would it not have been the best heavy tank of the war?
The T-14 looks like someone step ona sherman and flaten it :)
Nox Arcana yeah its nice looking
agree , I like the look of it
I love the A33
What's that monster tan tank to the left of A33 do that next. We don't care if you can't get all the way around the tanks the warehouse videos are lovely.
Looks like an early Challenger 1.
Challenger?
EDIT; didn’t realize an expert beat me to it
To me the A33, looks like a Mini TOG.
40 ton "heavy" tank with a short barrel 75mm gun. Ah, what a simpler time it was. It certainly would've been heavier, than tanks already being pulled from service, though 20 tons lighter than the Tiger. At least it would've been reliable.
At times i wish you would show a clip of all the other tanks in that area... Be it in disrepair or incomplete...
I still say that T14 with a 76mm and sorted our tracts would have been an excellent tank.
Love this tank stuff
Will there be a tank chat about the M26 Pershing? (I don't know if you have it in the museum though)
You've got to love the A33 :)
I wonder why so many of the English WWII tank designs have such a WWI-like appearance, with the massive protruding tracks and antiquated designs. I've been inside several different English tanks of the WWII era and, from the point of view of the tank crew members I have to say that it seemed impossible to have functioned in just operating them, let alone fighting a battle in them. God bless those English tankers! - Wouldn't it have been easier and cheaper to have simply taken one of the captured German assault tanks with a proven successful design and then simplified the typical German over-engineering and worked from there to create the infantry tank/assault tank that they needed?
I'd like to see one done on the Pzkw IVj
Just wondering if any significant pre-production vehicles being shared across the Atlantic, were lost at sea?
At 6:18 the "Please Keep Off " stenciled on the hull . Seems to me something very British about that .
A33 pilot a and b hope we can see one as a premium tank instead of been locked as a past event tank (warthunder )
the excelsiors armour is effective in the front but fukin crap from the sides while the t14 had decent side armour with the suspension armour and the slight curvature of the hull
To the British, if there were no skirts on their tanks it was obscene.
is it possible to visit the VCC too?
I would argue that because the U.S. and Britain did not chose either of these tanks, it is latterly neither here nor there.
wow wish we had half the armour thats in the tcc shed over here at ausarmour in australia. is the tcc open to the public?
Could you please do a chat on the KV-1 please if you have one.
He forgot to tell you the top speed of the A33. About 24mph.
Hi! Could you do the Jagdtiger next please?
7:30 who ever decided to place the exit there, why oh why did you make the hatch open in the oposite side of the direction of fire not only does this block your escape route but is doesn't provide cover either...
so sad
What kind of tank is the sand colored one behind the a33 ?
Is it really such a good idea to have that text scroll across the screen in the middle of the video. It is going to be there forever.
Can't you do that at the end of the video?
Yes another Fletcher video
I have both of these tanks in World of Tanks.
T-14 is a fair Tier 5 heavy but has to fire Prem ammo to be effective and is pretty trash against Tier 6 heavy tanks
The A33 is called the Excelsior in WOT and is a Prem ammo spammer too but the armor is way better and its faster.
Are people allowed within the VCC?
the second one looks like the excelsior in world of tanks
Impressive!
Love the t14
Can you do a Tank Chat on the M6 please?
I want to know about that yellow Churchill behind it
I'm curious how they retrieve vehicles from that facility to rotate into the museum. They look very jammed in there.
Kris Handsome I thought that too lol...probably a little harder than moving the living room furniture to vacuum underneath, I imagine...
Fun fact Judas Priest have a song name after the tank! (Good song btw)
Which song is that?
More Mr. David Fletcher MBE please
The amazing mustache
Never heard of these tanks
Captain Kirk: My freinds the great experiment, the Excelsior.
Sulu: she's supposed to have transverse suspension
Scotty: Aye, and if my grandmother had an 88mm she'd be a Tiger 😂
G Will Scotty the best sarcasm in the universe.
The difference between a infantry tank and an assault tank is not how it is designed, but how it is used. A slight difference but a difference nonetheless. An infantry tank is meant support an infantry attack, like how the French Polish British Dutch and Belgium forces did. In France 1940 the French tanks were very strong and hard to knockout by the Germans. And some French tanks could knockout German tanks. But tanks like the B1bis where rare, and not en mass so the Germans could move up the 88mm guns, get behind, or just wait for them to surrender. An Assault tank, you only need a regiment of them to attack a well defended spot, to assault that spot in support of tanks, who are also supported by infantry and artillery. Wow this comment got long. Make America's tanks great again!
I've heard a rumor that the T-14 is slightly irradiated inside, can you please shed light on this?
An assault tank sounds sexy to Americans. We are the action movie country.
Are these in world of tanks?
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Tank Chats, so addictive.