This book disappointed me in so many ways. Providing a baseline for certain societal norms and how they operate is one thing, but liking dwarves and going into this was grim. They need help against the chaos, they flee from the orks, they seem overly emotional and afraid to get into fights. Several parts where someone cries. The infighting with the guild almost causing a "clan" wipe if you can call it a clan. They came off as softer than baseline guard and turned me off like nothing else on the faction entire. I know they jobbed to necrons and space marines in earlier shorts if I am not mistaken, but damn. I read this after reading warboss and da big dakka and THAT was jarring as all hell. Ork books >>>>>
@luuidz1966 yeah. I'm really hoping they do more dwarf books and they are better. The focus on self doubt really got annoying, if it had been for a little bit when she first got called as high kahl sure, but it just happened over and over again and after a bit I was like okay haven't you worked through this by now?
Just finished listening to the audiobook. Personally, I thought the story was completely meh. (Audiobook voice acting was also pretty unbearable.) What I hate about this book is that fact that Games Workshop knows that a large subset of the 40k fandom had waited 30 years for a proper "space dwarfs" novel -- i.e , grumpy dudes with huge beards, and grudges, slaughtering enemies with axes -- yet they gave us this super bland quasi-woke story. (It's unforgivable that the Kahl and the Runesmith were both women, but should have definitely be dudes with amazing beards). Anyway, the Votann lore is off to a ****ing terrible start. Thanks Gav Thorpe. Literally, all we wanted was Warhammer fantasy dwarves in a 40k setting and you still managed to **** that up.
@TheMetaMonster I'm really hoping we get more books with better stories. The necrons only have a few stories and they are completely awesome, so there shouldn't be a reason the dwarves can't be given the same. I was a bit disappointed that the space dwarves didn't have a book of grudges mentioned like the fantasy dwarves have either.
@TheMetaMonster I never tried the audio book. I struggle to focus on them in that form, so I think that helped me with it some. I didn't hate the book, but it definitely was lacking, and felt like it only really got engaging for a little bit near the end, a lot of it felt like they were just trying to establish the culture of the dwarves. Knowing that much like space marines the leagues of votann have multiple factions and sub factions does give me a little hope that we can still get some other stories out of them that do a better job.
This book disappointed me in so many ways. Providing a baseline for certain societal norms and how they operate is one thing, but liking dwarves and going into this was grim. They need help against the chaos, they flee from the orks, they seem overly emotional and afraid to get into fights. Several parts where someone cries. The infighting with the guild almost causing a "clan" wipe if you can call it a clan.
They came off as softer than baseline guard and turned me off like nothing else on the faction entire. I know they jobbed to necrons and space marines in earlier shorts if I am not mistaken, but damn.
I read this after reading warboss and da big dakka and THAT was jarring as all hell. Ork books >>>>>
@luuidz1966 yeah. I'm really hoping they do more dwarf books and they are better.
The focus on self doubt really got annoying, if it had been for a little bit when she first got called as high kahl sure, but it just happened over and over again and after a bit I was like okay haven't you worked through this by now?
Just finished listening to the audiobook. Personally, I thought the story was completely meh. (Audiobook voice acting was also pretty unbearable.)
What I hate about this book is that fact that Games Workshop knows that a large subset of the 40k fandom had waited 30 years for a proper "space dwarfs" novel -- i.e , grumpy dudes with huge beards, and grudges, slaughtering enemies with axes -- yet they gave us this super bland quasi-woke story. (It's unforgivable that the Kahl and the Runesmith were both women, but should have definitely be dudes with amazing beards).
Anyway, the Votann lore is off to a ****ing terrible start. Thanks Gav Thorpe. Literally, all we wanted was Warhammer fantasy dwarves in a 40k setting and you still managed to **** that up.
@TheMetaMonster I'm really hoping we get more books with better stories.
The necrons only have a few stories and they are completely awesome, so there shouldn't be a reason the dwarves can't be given the same.
I was a bit disappointed that the space dwarves didn't have a book of grudges mentioned like the fantasy dwarves have either.
@TheMetaMonster I never tried the audio book. I struggle to focus on them in that form, so I think that helped me with it some.
I didn't hate the book, but it definitely was lacking, and felt like it only really got engaging for a little bit near the end, a lot of it felt like they were just trying to establish the culture of the dwarves.
Knowing that much like space marines the leagues of votann have multiple factions and sub factions does give me a little hope that we can still get some other stories out of them that do a better job.