How Optic trained Tarik to be the perfect C9 leader
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Tarik, as both an in-game leader and entry-fragger, has defined C9’s style more than any player in the team. We take a look back at the roots of this aggressive style in Optic Gaming, and see how Cloud9 maximizes on the opportunities it opens.
Footage from: ELEAGUE Season 2, CS_Summit 2, Cloud9, ELEAGUE Major 2018, ELEAGUE Road to the Boston Major
Written by Max Melit
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rush and tarik, rush and tarik, russian tarik
they barely maintained that form after the boston major lmao
2nd in summit and quarterfinals against Faze on map 3 on a double ot inferno? I mean I know they did bad at Star series, but they played against SK, Faze, and Mousesports who eventually won the whole tournament. Don't forget Cloud9 won against Faze on cache 16-13 after losing their first game against them on cache 16-1. They play their best under pressure.
SK is bad now. Summit is a tier 2 tournament. C9 has been playing quite badly after the Major. You have to face facts.
they haven't
How can I face facts when you never put any? SK is in a slump, yes, but in Star Ladder they still played decent.
Okay fine, keep sticking to your delusion that Cloud9 is a good team but the truth is that Cloud9 is back to how they were before the major, winning fuck all tier 1 tournaments.
Watching this after tarik and stewie left is quite funny
I'm gonna completely disagree with you on that cobble example. that was just tarik fucking up. all 3 players could've anchored and defended against that push just as well as stewie and rush did I feel
He's not saying that tarik went in as a bait. The point was that the rest of the team plays really well around the aggressive style tarik calls so that when one of them messes up the rest of the team can still clean up rounds. Rather than falling back and playing defensively, you see Stewie2k take a 1v2 and Rush peek aggressively to take another duel. Tarik made a mistake there no question but the team commits to the play and the movement to support him and keep control of the round.
Yea I agree, Tarik fucked up and then Stew and Rush managed to shut down SK without Tarik. You could literally put a silver in that position and Stew and Rush would still win. That play had nothing to do with Tarik whatsoever
SkipsPro "even if it fails. Let's take a look at an example."
It's like you didn't even listen.
Jason Curtis this is just plain wrong dude, if the awp can get onto plat and post they don't need to make that second play, the only reason why they gave up drop and both fought plat is because they only had two b and knew that they had to fight either b plat or drop, and stewie was already close to retake so they left drop and fought plat.
It's not one big play, it's one play, him dyin, then a reaction to that.
Where did I say it's one play? I was literally saying exactly what you said. The play changed when tarik died and the point he makes in the video is that the team is coordinated enough to recover a disadvantaged situation when tarik's original call doesn't work out. If you actually read the comment I responded to you'll see that SkipsPro thinks hes saying tarik took the death deliberately to set up a bait which is untrue. I was trying to say that tarik's plan was to make the box play and then he made a mistake but his team was able to cover it.
clouds usually move slowly but these clouds moves so fast they end things quickly.
optic died for NA CS, rip
R.I.P mibr tarik 💔
this video did not age well
I really enjoyed this video. Very well put together and narrated
VERY GOOD CHANNEL THUMBS UP👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
This new C9 is amazing.
cloud 9 is bad again.
Chris Rugsveen what
Chris Rugsveen lol?
not for long :D
They almost beat FaZe again in Katowice? Do you even watch CSGO?
peanut brain
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"How they maintain that (major) form..." Three words.... TEAM ONE LUL
0:08 that didnt age well
This video was made by someone who has no idea how high level cs works and is just stating things out of his ass.
All of the examples used had nothing to do with tarik being hyper aggressive as an entry fragger or making super individualistic plays. I think he is a super good player and he does make a lot of good plays, but the examples used have nearly nothing to do with tarik.
For example; one round was showed where the ct's took aggressive banana control against c9. You talked about how tarik went and entried hyper aggressive through a smoke to make space for his teammates, but c9 was just doing a standard banana retake, they smoked top car to stop the ct's from peeking down banana with their molly, then flashed high with a flash right clicked through the smoke and 2-3 people jump through. That has nothing to do with tarik entrying, or him being an insane igl, it's just a common reaction to a standard banana take.
The next example was a round on cbbl where tarik picks plat and gets spammed and has to run, dies whatever. Then you guys said that it was tarik dying that made space for stewie and rush to make plays, how was there no space in the first place? There was literally less space, taco now had all of plat control. Then you said it was tarik that was the reason why the plays were made, but it was almost 100% stewie who made the call to retake plat, right as tarik dies you see stewie getting close stairs to retake, rush gives up drop to help fight plat, and they flash plat and fight together to retake plat. Once again a really super common reaction at the top level. Nothing to do with tarik, the only thing tarik did was die, once he fell off plat he should have just gone statue and not even reaggressed without a teammate, which is why a play had to be made.
I'm not trying to say that tarik is a bad player, but the examples you gave had literally no correlation with what tarik actually does to help c9.
What amaze me the most, is that people didn't notice this themselves... The video got 1100 likes and 65 dislikes, and I really hope this isn't a indication of how many noticed, which would only be 5%...
Woah buddy how much do you have on your hands and why are you going to comment when you know he’s not gonna read it?
damn is this a essay or a comment
@@lizardgecko at least some people who dont understand can read this
@@Yerd69999 *an
These videos really explain these tactics in a clear and efficient way. Nice work.
I'm distracted by the time is 4:20
calculated
Nice
UpRyZe JKT silver 1
Landon Chun wtf how
Tarık will be general 😂
c9 is good now! andddddd stew and ska are gone.
Cool video, good music choice.
Does anybody know the song name?
4:20 This is what you must be looking for
That cobble example is... What? I mean he died and because of that left space for his teammates? Don't take me for Anti Tarik because I really like it, it's antes amazing player but elevate him at that Range...?
Gera Mendez True that was not good with the cobble example. If you go like this i csn always say now: NICE Bodyy died now KennyS has space what a teamplayer. The death of tarik still was very bad for the team as they were a man down, luckily rush and stewie managed to get some frags, even tho that push could have easily been punished.
This video didn't age well
Watermelon brain
SIKE STEWIE IS GONE
russian tarik
What about 🥜
Hello guys!
I can see why you focus on cloud9
We just really didnt expect cloud9 to win a major let alone the whole na community
And theres a lot of things to talk about them
Even tho I don’t like c9 after the major (because he defeated my fav team FaZe lol), i got to admit tariks is a great leader
Rushian Tarik
Great content!
Loving your videos you have a new subscriber!
jokes on you, C9 is playing like a crap after the major. (im a fan of them thought)
RIP
WHAT DO YOU MEAN PEANUT BRAIN? ITS WATERMELON BRAIN NOW BOYS
Tarik gets blooded “made space” lol.
no more titles stewie2k to stewieSk real quick
Let's see if they can win WESG. That will prove the doubters.
LUL 16-8
Maintained form after the major?
4:20 really
Niofer are you 8?
that example though
4:20 long. nice.
ayyyee 4:20 lmao
Russian Tarik
Peanut brain who?
Thank mr optic
russian tarik
This channel is too underated.It should get more likes!
Stalin330 (
I thought stewie is the c9 leader...
They changed to Tarik shortly after Tarik and Rush joined C9.
the crouch sprayer
Didnt explain how
with all due respect. i really like this channel and as a fairly new IGL its really helpful to find certain nuances.
But please stop stuffing flowers inside of Cloud9's asshole. I agree that its great that an NA team has finally taken a major title. but this is just ridicoulous.
A quick look at Cloud9's 2018 shows its fairly mediocre with a few spikes and matches that most would consider really good. and the example on cobblestone was just tarik being way to aggressive and giving SK the man advantage. the fact that SK then decides to completely lose that advantage due to lining up for stewie2k and rush is in no way a sign that Tarik's play won the round. tarik only put his team at a disadvantage, with no real way of trade fragging the kill.
Props to Stewie and Rush for picking up the round anyway though, but that was a really weird example.
He didn't say that tarik did it on purpose, he fails and he dies, but his team started playing aggressive and won the round
Magic Javi the video stated that cloud 9: "won the round because of tarik's aggressive style"
Which is simply not true.
Dutchygamerz it's true but he didn't on purpose. He isn't saying that tarik expected that
Magic Javi you are missing my point, wether or not it was on purpose tarik made a bad play amd can not be creditted for the round win.
Dutchygamerz if tarik stayed alive, they could win the round? Yes, but they did because of tariks death, because of tariks death, they won the round, because of tarik they won the round
They have lost that form
Not really. SK has lost form. C9 has had multiple 2nd place finishes in 2018 plus has made it out of almost every group stage not including Starseries. Granted they are not the same as during the MAJOR but staying at the top is never easy and always has some bumps along the way. If they win the next major this team will be one of the all-time greats.
Lol what team is more consistent than c9 rn besides faze
Liam O'Brien uhhh hardly
calvin Fan Mouse and Fnatic.
Uh Tarik makes a bone head play as he always does.. and his team bails him out*
I really like your channel, but you're going too hard as a fan: of your last 6 videos 3 of them were about cloudnine (considering you take too long to post a video this is fucking huge)
We're going to april and you're still talking about cloudnine's major
Still praising a team that yes, had an excelent major, but after that c9 were just peaks and troughs when fighting against tier1 teams, they've simply lost that form since boston major
and your example was horrible, tarik didn't have the slightest participation in that round you talked about, nothing that happened was planned, it was just a quick decision and those gunfights got right for cloudnine, there was no smart tactic and it easily could have gone wrong
Still, NA era lasted only for 2 weeks.
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how much tarik paid you?
zedje lmao
Who's a peanut brain now eh??
PERFECT LEADER OMEGALUL
this youtube channel is so NA biased it is hillarious