I was in a JUNIOR ballet company. One of the girls who was a senior in high school started bleeding through her pointe shoe on stage and kept dancing. The only reason nobody noticed is because they were already painted red. She did so many turns and finished the entire routine. When our director told us about it she then finished by saying “You need to have this much dedication! This is what you should strive for!” I quit two years later.
There’s also the color palette here. Nina - literally “little girl” - starts dressed mostly in pale pink/white. Her clothes then turn into gray, then ultimately black.
A great parallel to Nina turning from sweet girl into a dark reflection of her former self. Plus she also shouts “she’s gone!” when Erica asks what happened to sweet innocent Nina
Fun fact: Nina's partner (the one who he asked if he would fuck her) is Natalie Portman's real life husband. They met for this movie as he was assigned to teach her ballet. They're still married today and have 2 kids.
this is one of my all time favorite movies. ngl a minor thing i loved about it was how the movie subtly encourages us to lean into the tendency for women to view each other as a threat, so all through the movie we think of Lily as Nina's rival and enemy. it's only at the end, looking back, that we realize she was genuinely her friend and probably the only person in the whole movie who had her back. sad 😢
No she wasn’t. She kept trying to get Lily’s role and sabotage her. Lily was definitely a bad influence and drugged her. She literally admitting to putting drugs in her drink. That’s not a friend lol.
It's why I don't mess with insecure people. They can destroy you when you mean them no harm. However, anyone who drugs someone is NO friend. What a permissive standard.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin Lily drugged Nina. She admitted to doing it so she did mean her harm. She wanted to sabotage to get Nina’s role. Also secure ppl don’t do molly.
The eating disorder besides from the obvious need to be thin, could also be her trying to maintain some control over her life. Many people who have eating disorders say it’s about control. Many people with them have overbearing or abusive families
same thing with her dermatillomania (skin picking)! it's often a symptom of OCD or anxiety because it's another way to control your appearance and get rid of any perceived imperfections
Ballet is also full of perfectionists who hold themselves to impossible standards, so you have both the personality type and the environment conducive to eating disorders. You simply can't be naturally thin enough, women need to have more bodyfat to have healthy hormones so they all have to control their diet all the time to stay thinner.
I love the scene when Nina and Lily are at her apartment and Nina's mom is confronting her. They show Nina in the mirror and Lily sort of steps away from her in the reflection, suggesting that they are both Nina. Such a brilliant bit of storytelling you could completely miss.
I used to be a competitive dancer - though no where near at that level. I pushed myself far too much and developed injuries that permanently disabled me. This movie resonates with me so much - the relationships that are founded on competition, the toxic nature of the industry and community, the unhealthy and deadly search for perfection. Natalie Portman knocked it out of the part and was so mesmerizing in the role.
I was a ballet dancer until i had to have my Achilles tendon reconstructed because they started me on pointe too young. So many of us end up seriously injured
@CorbCorbin not gonna lie, it was the most painful experience of my life. Woke up screaming the first night I got home because I tried to move my leg in my sleep. Took me a year to learn to walk again. Now I have Achilles tendonosis, where my tendon is kinda falling apart and I refuse to have surgery again. I'll deal with the walking boot for the rest of my life, thank you. Unless they come up with a better version of the surgery lol.
@@SessaV those injuries never go completely away unfortunately, and people never understand who have never dealt with severe injuries like that. Honestly I don't know the kind of torment dancers put their bodies through but I have various metal plates, screws, and wires holding my body together from working in construction all of my life and having a few very serious accidents like falling 30' onto concrete as an example. It helps when your body is in such great physical shape to begin with ( as well as if your lucky enough to be young when things happen), but I know very few people who ever heal completely
This movie shows so much about beauty standards, sexual harassment, and ageism in the entertainment industry. I was shocked watching this ending explained.
Man, I was always so sad at how many people slept on this movie as a good horror film. Everyone just saw "ballet" and wrote it off. I LOVE this movie, and couldn't wait to buy it when it came out on DVD. I could easily watch this again any day of the week, and how there are so many powerhouse actresses in it: Natalie, Barbra, Winona, Mila, and even Ksenia. Love them all so much.
Nobody has ever slept on Black Swan....it was one of the biggest movies when it came out....u know u gotta have substantial commercial success along with great acting for tht oscar right?
Yes, the names are so symbolic in this movie! The company director is named Thomas Leroy; Thomas means “twin” (a reference to the white swan and the black swan, as well of the themes of duality that show up throughout the film) and Leroy is a variation of the French word for “king” (referring to his position within the company and how he treats his dancers, as well as how his dancers see him). The name Nina means “little girl” (this connection is pretty obvious), and the name of Nina’s mother, Erica, means “eternal ruler” (also pretty obvious within the context of how she treated Nina).
that's so interesting! I always wondered about her name since she's supposed to be the darker one, but when I think "Lily" I think of a pure white flower. the Lilith connection makes more sense.
They did use dance doubles for the more difficult choreography, but Aronofsky’s cinematography makes it hard to spot when the double is used. But Natalie and Mila really worked their asses off to do most of the work
This movie as a teenager made me realize how deep movies can be and i absolutely fell in love with psychological and deep movies after that. I didnt even know half of what was going on in this movie either but its timeless
I LOVE this film. It’s one of the perfect examples of how to do a psychological horror film properly. This film shows why mental health is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
Love how you did an older movie that’s been out for some time now. Black Swan is probably my most favorite movie of Natalie Portman’s and made me see her as a recognized actress. The reality of her psychological break is often times true for people who’ve been put under intense pressure by their parents, themselves, & peers for years. The desperation for being “perfect” can be all too relatable.
I think that scene of her mirror scratching wasn’t a hallucination but actually her reality, she has a scratching anxiety tik/ obsession that she hides from herself as we never see her do it but see the effects of it
Scratching anxiety can be a big problem. Most of the time, you would scratch at un-noticeble spot to the regular part when it look like a normal scratch. But people who got this need to be watched and beware as it can give a dangerous bleeding wound.
I love this along with Whiplash, I always saw them as companion films. But here’s the kicker: I believe that Black Swan had the “Happy Ending” whereas Whiplash had the “Darker Ending”. My reasoning is that while both Nina and Andrew were striving to achieve perfection and both did, Nina’s passing leaves her to stay in the height of perfection, whereas Andrew, achieving perfection at such a young age, will not only have to maintain that level, but even have to go higher since he’s still alive and you are only as good as your last piece of work. So while Nina’s journey is done at a high note, Andrew’s nightmare has only begun.
Sucks she dies at the end but it makes sense. In the original story of Swan Lake, Odette kills herself due to the fact that she has lost the true love that could free her from her permanent white swan state. Nina relates to Odette in that she has never fallen in love, she has no real family, and she is alone in her world. Odette let the black swan take any chance of happiness she had, as Nina let her obsession with perfecting the role destroy her life. Both characters were consumed by the black swan, the price for both of which was death.
Perfect Blue! I’m so glad you mentioned it, it’s truly a masterpiece. I know you usually cover only live action films but if you ever explore an animated one please let it be perfect blue!
I’ve never seen this movie because ballerinas just freak me out already. Thank you so much for doing this Ending Explained so I can feel as if I’ve watched it! ❤ I love your videos!
@@greteb1951 I think it’s because some of them look so sickly thin, and the movements can be so unnatural. It’s definitely artful, but it’s like body horror to me 😅
Went and saw this with my dad which was kinda awkward, but we both liked the film. I think Natalie’s work in “V for Vendetta” started the building block for her taking more complex roles, but this is the one that really accessed her range. She deserved that Oscar
I took Ballet for 6 years and loved every moment of it. Seeing movies like this always makes my inner Ballerina stir, which makes me feel connected to the characters on a different level.
Wow I forgot how terrifying this movie is. When I was younger I was scared by the imagery and the score but now thinking back I'm scared for how many dangerous situations Nina is in and how scary it is to not trust your own mind or family.
The scene with the cake was Nina's mother trying to sabotage her role. She does it 3 times. The cake, not waking her up, then calling her out sick. Her mom resents Nina because she thinks her getting preggo with Nina ruined her career. Later we learn that her career wasnt so great anyways, because she was 28 & never got out of the corps. So the mom scapegoated Nina instead of just coming to terms with her own limitations. They did a superb job on showing that toxic dynamic.
Natalie Portman was actually worried that the blood placement at the end might look like period blood and the director said good. So instead of dying she could’ve become a woman and the black swan
Even when I’ve seen a movie multiple times and understand it with no confusion at all..I still LOVE to watch/listen to you explain the film. Thank you for your great content and uniquely awesome delivery! 😁👍💙
I think you missed the mark on the significance of the wood not being in place the morning after their hookup. Lily would have had to move the stick to get out of the room. And we know that the Mom has no boundaries and will sleep in her daughter's room given the chance, there must have been a good reason why she didn't.
@@Happypotato917 lily did 100% exist, but the interactions between her and nina were nearly all hallucinations/dreams. lily probably didn't ever have any malicious intent, but nina felt threatened enough to interpret that she did.
It's a perfectly well done film, it's a perfect example of how getting a lead role in a stage production, even ballet can consume someone's sanity & mental health.
every conversation i have in my daily life somehow reroutes to “i can’t believe nope (2022) was snubbed by almost every and all awards show.” please help, i can’t stop
It's true! That's why it was cool to see it win in Dead Meat's horror awards, especially when they went over how much consideration went into the production
When Thomas is wearing black he's evil when was wearing white he's coddling her And the wearing of gray is like the devil on your shoulder angel on your shoulder blended, but you need to go through the gray @28:25 to get to the dark/black swan The gray clothes everyone wears it's not a neutral or third persona. What it means is there in the middle of either shifting to White or Black swan personas metaphorically Mom sure acted nice when she wore White
Notice Thomas is wearing gray when they're watching Lily which shows a blending of the personalities and a switch over. He wearing gray when Lily and Nina are together watching each other at 11 minutes 30
11:31 it was mentioned on reddit that Thomas is not seen walking to Nina, he simply just appears. He was never there, just another hallucination by Nina.
@@Jess-Rabbit Nina wasn’t fine with it. She confronted Lily abt it and was mad. Lily did it to sabotage her though. She knew Nina would wake up late cause if it. She’s never don’t drugs before.
This movie actually scared me at the same time made me think about a lot of things. The obsession, what it does to us and everything about mental illnesses. My favourite movie of all time fr
This is one of my favorite movies ever! The symbolism is incredible and not knowing whether anything is really or not is so well done! You can tell a lot of research and effort was done to make this film! Absolutely incredible!
Noticed she was stabbed with a piece of the mirror The duality and I think that's what she did She couldn't deal with sleeping with the director so when she was on the top she stabbed herself in the stomach where the eating disorder is This can also be a metaphor about the eating disorder because of how it affects a menstrual cycle and blood and skin health
I’m really glad my mom never did any of this crazy shit to me as a kid, I was a proud tomboy growing up. I’d never even imagined being a ballerina or a pageant girl like so many are today. I feel so deeply, genuinely sorry for those girls who will have to endure trauma inflicted by the person who should protect them the most😭
The delivery is what makes it a psychological horror not necessarily the story or its contents/motive. Kinda like the struggles of adult life it can be delivered as a part of growning up and Changing or the inevitable force that moves us to dust as our bodies age or as growing into a freedom of sense or being forced into a cage of responsibility
@@kateajurors8640 it's not a horror movie and it barely has horror elements outside of the jumpscares....people have meltdowns, hallucinations and overall paranoia in other genres...it is a drama movie....the academy didn't look at it as a horror movie....horror fans just want a movie with an important oscar
I watched this movie for the first time about a month ago. It was so good! I was slightly confused on some parts of this movie & searched for some kinda explanation online. So happy this was posted! Keep up the good work FoundFlix!
Who said she died?? We didn't get to see anything except for Nina passed out rightfully since she's been performing with an open wound. It's an open ending that left the door open for us to create different endings and i honestly like to believe she was rushed to hospital to get treatment for her wound and then psychiatric evaluation and maybe a few months or even years in therapy to get back to normal
I watched this movie with my parents when I was around 14... It was a very uncomfortable experience to say the least... But Mila Kunis has always been my celebrity crush so that made it a little bit better.
Loved this movie Prompted me to watch Darin's other film Requiem for a dream. I realized that the movie is based on Nina's perspective I had a time figuring out whats real or in Nina's mind
@@JR-bu7we that movie freaks me out and makes me sad I always have to watch something upbeat after I want to check out the one he mentioned repulsions. Sounds creepy by the title lol
I love your videos. You explain all the little details and moments of character’s emotions that I can’t quite grasp when watching the film. I need your commentary on every film! Not just horror lol
I do hope you cover Satoshi Kon's masterpieces. I know he has Paprika and Perfect Blue but I'm curious about his first story that was made into a film, World Apartment Horror.
Damn, when the director goes hard and you dislocate your rib on set and he tells you to "stay in character" and then proceed to record the relocating lmao
Happy to hear the mention of Perfect Blue, I've always wanted to see a Ending Explained for that anime movie, but I have always wondered if an anime movie wouldn't get the views, but I'll still sit here and hope for it, quietly to myself
Hello. I have loved your videos for years and I am a big Ari Astor fan and just recently watched Beau is Afraid. I am still highly confused about it. I was also confused about I'm Thinking of Ending Things until you explained it, and I have heard that the two are similar in terms of symbolism. If you could explain Beau is Afraid that would be great. Thank you!
I just watched Come True by Anthony Scott Burns and I would love to hear your opinion on it. Absolutely loves some of the design choices. Keep up the great work!
Omggg thank u for making this video! I still remember how i slid into ur dms two years ago just to request black swan and mulholland drive lmao. Love this movie smm
I was in a JUNIOR ballet company. One of the girls who was a senior in high school started bleeding through her pointe shoe on stage and kept dancing. The only reason nobody noticed is because they were already painted red. She did so many turns and finished the entire routine. When our director told us about it she then finished by saying “You need to have this much dedication! This is what you should strive for!” I quit two years later.
Damn, I hope that senior is doing okay!
But honesty if I heard that after she told what happened, I would've given her the middle finger and walk out.
Sis. My sisters had that happen too. It’s traumatic, they enable pain. It’s inhumane
@@susanstorm7910 Margot Robbie?? That you??
@@nunyabusiness3652 at the time I just thought I wasn’t tough enough
@@swillieplays nah, i’m better
There’s also the color palette here. Nina - literally “little girl” - starts dressed mostly in pale pink/white. Her clothes then turn into gray, then ultimately black.
Things do that when they get dirty
It was a really good analogy for her dual roles
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A great parallel to Nina turning from sweet girl into a dark reflection of her former self. Plus she also shouts “she’s gone!” when Erica asks what happened to sweet innocent Nina
Aaah yes surface level writing
“When you take a shit, do it as the black swan” comedy gold
Fun fact: Nina's partner (the one who he asked if he would fuck her) is Natalie Portman's real life husband. They met for this movie as he was assigned to teach her ballet.
They're still married today and have 2 kids.
I guess he did fuck her at the end.
That’s not a fun fact
Well this didn’t age well.
@@Happypotato917why
@@ZyroShadowPonyhe cheated
this is one of my all time favorite movies. ngl a minor thing i loved about it was how the movie subtly encourages us to lean into the tendency for women to view each other as a threat, so all through the movie we think of Lily as Nina's rival and enemy. it's only at the end, looking back, that we realize she was genuinely her friend and probably the only person in the whole movie who had her back. sad 😢
No she wasn’t. She kept trying to get Lily’s role and sabotage her. Lily was definitely a bad influence and drugged her. She literally admitting to putting drugs in her drink. That’s not a friend lol.
It's why I don't mess with insecure people. They can destroy you when you mean them no harm. However, anyone who drugs someone is NO friend. What a permissive standard.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin Lily drugged Nina. She admitted to doing it so she did mean her harm. She wanted to sabotage to get Nina’s role. Also secure ppl don’t do molly.
Why did u ignore all of the gaslighting and manipulation Lily did to Nina so she could get to play the lead instead of her?
I always thought Nina and lily were the same person. Kind of like fight club.
The eating disorder besides from the obvious need to be thin, could also be her trying to maintain some control over her life. Many people who have eating disorders say it’s about control. Many people with them have overbearing or abusive families
same thing with her dermatillomania (skin picking)! it's often a symptom of OCD or anxiety because it's another way to control your appearance and get rid of any perceived imperfections
Ballet is also full of perfectionists who hold themselves to impossible standards, so you have both the personality type and the environment conducive to eating disorders. You simply can't be naturally thin enough, women need to have more bodyfat to have healthy hormones so they all have to control their diet all the time to stay thinner.
It reminds me of how her director to not put so much control on her.
thanks for posting this, this is actually life changing for me. Might have to show this to my therapist lol
I love the scene when Nina and Lily are at her apartment and Nina's mom is confronting her. They show Nina in the mirror and Lily sort of steps away from her in the reflection, suggesting that they are both Nina. Such a brilliant bit of storytelling you could completely miss.
Lily also finishes Nina’s sentence in that scene! Another little detail
@@gabriellaberman yes! It made me think of the line in Fight Club, "Tyler's words coming out of my mouth"
Natalie Portman's fragile yet ambitious performance was amazing in this movie. I liked that we got to see her home life, too.
Don't assume that just because Nina is fragile that means Portman is as well
@@scoutpark5230girl sthup🙄🫸
@@scoutpark5230key word performance
This was a side of Mila Kunis that I was so excited to experience! She is an extremely underated dramatic actress
I think this and then that space movie she made with that magic mike guy was so god awful
@@Naijacatt jupiter ascending? :p
If you haven’t seen book of Eli I would recommend
@@jadeharley7190LOVE that movie. Mila and Denzel are great on screen!
I used to be a competitive dancer - though no where near at that level. I pushed myself far too much and developed injuries that permanently disabled me. This movie resonates with me so much - the relationships that are founded on competition, the toxic nature of the industry and community, the unhealthy and deadly search for perfection. Natalie Portman knocked it out of the part and was so mesmerizing in the role.
I was a ballet dancer until i had to have my Achilles tendon reconstructed because they started me on pointe too young. So many of us end up seriously injured
@@SessaV
Argh! That hurts just reading it.
@CorbCorbin not gonna lie, it was the most painful experience of my life. Woke up screaming the first night I got home because I tried to move my leg in my sleep. Took me a year to learn to walk again.
Now I have Achilles tendonosis, where my tendon is kinda falling apart and I refuse to have surgery again. I'll deal with the walking boot for the rest of my life, thank you. Unless they come up with a better version of the surgery lol.
@@SessaV those injuries never go completely away unfortunately, and people never understand who have never dealt with severe injuries like that. Honestly I don't know the kind of torment dancers put their bodies through but I have various metal plates, screws, and wires holding my body together from working in construction all of my life and having a few very serious accidents like falling 30' onto concrete as an example.
It helps when your body is in such great physical shape to begin with ( as well as if your lucky enough to be young when things happen), but I know very few people who ever heal completely
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Honestly Mila’s character asking ‘was I good’ is a mood.
Isn’t her character a date rapist?
I love my wife
This movie shows so much about beauty standards, sexual harassment, and ageism in the entertainment industry. I was shocked watching this ending explained.
Man, I was always so sad at how many people slept on this movie as a good horror film. Everyone just saw "ballet" and wrote it off. I LOVE this movie, and couldn't wait to buy it when it came out on DVD. I could easily watch this again any day of the week, and how there are so many powerhouse actresses in it: Natalie, Barbra, Winona, Mila, and even Ksenia. Love them all so much.
Nobody has ever slept on Black Swan....it was one of the biggest movies when it came out....u know u gotta have substantial commercial success along with great acting for tht oscar right?
Would love to see an Ending Explained for Perfect Blue! Such a great movie.
Came here to say this as well! And also to see if he notes the differences between the dub and the original ending.
Me too
And paprika!
Are you talking about the anime?
Perfect Blue is excellent
I think that The names are foreshadowing too. Lily is probably short for Lilith who's kindov a darker counter to Eve.
Yes, the names are so symbolic in this movie! The company director is named Thomas Leroy; Thomas means “twin” (a reference to the white swan and the black swan, as well of the themes of duality that show up throughout the film) and Leroy is a variation of the French word for “king” (referring to his position within the company and how he treats his dancers, as well as how his dancers see him). The name Nina means “little girl” (this connection is pretty obvious), and the name of Nina’s mother, Erica, means “eternal ruler” (also pretty obvious within the context of how she treated Nina).
that's so interesting! I always wondered about her name since she's supposed to be the darker one, but when I think "Lily" I think of a pure white flower. the Lilith connection makes more sense.
I think it's more likely because it's a similar name to Odile, the Black Swan.
No she's not Lilith was already around before the ignorance tht is Christianity
She deserved an Oscar, learning that much ballet couldn’t have been easy
They did use dance doubles for the more difficult choreography, but Aronofsky’s cinematography makes it hard to spot when the double is used. But Natalie and Mila really worked their asses off to do most of the work
She won the Oscar!
If I recall correctly, Natalie Portman trained in ballet growing up and in her teens, so I'm sure some of the techniques were old hat!
@@LucyLioness100 he wasn’t the cinematographer
@aninafouche
No one said that she DIDN'T win the Oscar. The person just stated that she deserved it due to the work she put in.
This movie as a teenager made me realize how deep movies can be and i absolutely fell in love with psychological and deep movies after that. I didnt even know half of what was going on in this movie either but its timeless
Right this movie , the butterfly effect , American Psycho , and Jacob’s Ladder turned me into a psychological thriller nut 😂
Nina was implied to have died. It's actually left ambiguous as to wether she died or not.
For some reason i love the small detail in the floors when she was practicing and hurt herself it shows how much she practiced in that spot
I LOVE this film. It’s one of the perfect examples of how to do a psychological horror film properly. This film shows why mental health is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
I see no mental health as much as I see that there are manipulative people in power like Thomas
Love how you did an older movie that’s been out for some time now. Black Swan is probably my most favorite movie of Natalie Portman’s and made me see her as a recognized actress. The reality of her psychological break is often times true for people who’ve been put under intense pressure by their parents, themselves, & peers for years. The desperation for being “perfect” can be all too relatable.
My cousin and I went to this just thinking it was a ballet movie. We were not prepared and I was genuinely so unsettled by it.
I think that scene of her mirror scratching wasn’t a hallucination but actually her reality, she has a scratching anxiety tik/ obsession that she hides from herself as we never see her do it but see the effects of it
and in some scenes it starts from her putting her hand back from scratching!!!
Scratching anxiety can be a big problem. Most of the time, you would scratch at un-noticeble spot to the regular part when it look like a normal scratch. But people who got this need to be watched and beware as it can give a dangerous bleeding wound.
Good on you for clocking the 'NOPE' snub! It was multi-layered, deep, clever, and well-acted/cast, shot, scored, etc.
I love this along with Whiplash, I always saw them as companion films. But here’s the kicker: I believe that Black Swan had the “Happy Ending” whereas Whiplash had the “Darker Ending”. My reasoning is that while both Nina and Andrew were striving to achieve perfection and both did, Nina’s passing leaves her to stay in the height of perfection, whereas Andrew, achieving perfection at such a young age, will not only have to maintain that level, but even have to go higher since he’s still alive and you are only as good as your last piece of work. So while Nina’s journey is done at a high note, Andrew’s nightmare has only begun.
Sucks she dies at the end but it makes sense. In the original story of Swan Lake, Odette kills herself due to the fact that she has lost the true love that could free her from her permanent white swan state. Nina relates to Odette in that she has never fallen in love, she has no real family, and she is alone in her world. Odette let the black swan take any chance of happiness she had, as Nina let her obsession with perfecting the role destroy her life. Both characters were consumed by the black swan, the price for both of which was death.
This is my fate
Nina didn’t die.
@@twindrill2852 she didn’t?
Perfect Blue! I’m so glad you mentioned it, it’s truly a masterpiece. I know you usually cover only live action films but if you ever explore an animated one please let it be perfect blue!
I'm here to show enthusiasm for this suggestion as well. Please do this! Perfect Blue is a classic and masterpiece.
I wouldn’t mind this! Perfect Blue is masterpiece and a half!
10000% agree!!!
I busted out laughing when she developed feet and legs like a swan and fell over🦢
I’ve never seen this movie because ballerinas just freak me out already. Thank you so much for doing this Ending Explained so I can feel as if I’ve watched it! ❤ I love your videos!
That’s a very specific fear, but I get it, mimes freak me out but I’m cool with clowns
@@greteb1951 I think it’s because some of them look so sickly thin, and the movements can be so unnatural. It’s definitely artful, but it’s like body horror to me 😅
@@davidovic20 lmao what kind of ballerinas are you watching that look "sickly thin" to you?
@@davidovic20Then definitely don’t watch Suspiria!
@@davidovic20 that's the most judgmental BS. If you have that judgment i can only inagine how idiotic you are in real life
Went and saw this with my dad which was kinda awkward, but we both liked the film. I think Natalie’s work in “V for Vendetta” started the building block for her taking more complex roles, but this is the one that really accessed her range. She deserved that Oscar
Speaking of Perfect Blue, I think that would make a fantastic Ending Explained video.
I'm glad I'm not the only one to think this!!! Let's make it happen!!!
Are you talking about the anime?
@@t1intern677 Yes, that's the one!
@@jimbolic0809 yasss
About to watch it rn. Big hype
I took Ballet for 6 years and loved every moment of it. Seeing movies like this always makes my inner Ballerina stir, which makes me feel connected to the characters on a different level.
Wow I forgot how terrifying this movie is. When I was younger I was scared by the imagery and the score but now thinking back I'm scared for how many dangerous situations Nina is in and how scary it is to not trust your own mind or family.
i know right. imagine not being able to tell what’s real or not
The scene with the cake was Nina's mother trying to sabotage her role. She does it 3 times. The cake, not waking her up, then calling her out sick.
Her mom resents Nina because she thinks her getting preggo with Nina ruined her career. Later we learn that her career wasnt so great anyways, because she was 28 & never got out of the corps. So the mom scapegoated Nina instead of just coming to terms with her own limitations.
They did a superb job on showing that toxic dynamic.
Natalie Portman was actually worried that the blood placement at the end might look like period blood and the director said good. So instead of dying she could’ve become a woman and the black swan
Do you have the source of that?
@@dealerofic3cream1source : “trust me bro”
Even when I’ve seen a movie multiple times and understand it with no confusion at all..I still LOVE to watch/listen to you explain the film. Thank you for your great content and uniquely awesome delivery! 😁👍💙
I think you missed the mark on the significance of the wood not being in place the morning after their hookup. Lily would have had to move the stick to get out of the room. And we know that the Mom has no boundaries and will sleep in her daughter's room given the chance, there must have been a good reason why she didn't.
Please explain, for the slower among us. (Me) lol
So she actually was with Lily orrrr
@@moiaenalily doesn’t exist
@@Happypotato917 lily did 100% exist, but the interactions between her and nina were nearly all hallucinations/dreams. lily probably didn't ever have any malicious intent, but nina felt threatened enough to interpret that she did.
It's a perfectly well done film, it's a perfect example of how getting a lead role in a stage production, even ballet can consume someone's sanity & mental health.
You saying 'did you suck his pee pee?' LITERALLY had me laughing out loud. I had to play that part again.
every conversation i have in my daily life somehow reroutes to “i can’t believe nope (2022) was snubbed by almost every and all awards show.” please help, i can’t stop
It's true! That's why it was cool to see it win in Dead Meat's horror awards, especially when they went over how much consideration went into the production
this movie is perfect for anyone whos struggling to evolve themselves. Its encouraging and liberating
When Thomas is wearing black he's evil when was wearing white he's coddling her
And the wearing of gray is like the devil on your shoulder angel on your shoulder blended, but you need to go through the gray @28:25 to get to the dark/black swan
The gray clothes everyone wears it's not a neutral or third persona. What it means is there in the middle of either shifting to White or Black swan personas metaphorically
Mom sure acted nice when she wore White
35:41 the part nina transforms into the black swan is here.. absolutely terrifying
Notice Thomas is wearing gray when they're watching Lily which shows a blending of the personalities and a switch over. He wearing gray when Lily and Nina are together watching each other at 11 minutes 30
His apartment is also decorated in black and white.
I remember watching this when I was younger and it genuinely felt like a horror movie to me. I appreciate finally getting an explanation.
11:31 it was mentioned on reddit that Thomas is not seen walking to Nina, he simply just appears. He was never there, just another hallucination by Nina.
Can’t believe ppl are calling Lily a friend to Lily when Nina literally drugged her.
I feel like Nina saw that and decided she was fine with it. Remember Lily kept reassuring her it would only last a few hours tops
@@Jess-Rabbit Nina wasn’t fine with it. She confronted Lily abt it and was mad. Lily did it to sabotage her though. She knew Nina would wake up late cause if it. She’s never don’t drugs before.
@@Dolphinboi ty sis
I'm pretty sure she told her she was giving it to her, right? I can't remember
This movie actually scared me at the same time made me think about a lot of things. The obsession, what it does to us and everything about mental illnesses. My favourite movie of all time fr
This is one of my favorite movies ever! The symbolism is incredible and not knowing whether anything is really or not is so well done! You can tell a lot of research and effort was done to make this film! Absolutely incredible!
Their 'E/drug' part was probably the most realistic I've ever seen on screen!
This movie is one of my favs! I was lucky to see it in the theatres.
Noticed she was stabbed with a piece of the mirror The duality and I think that's what she did
She couldn't deal with sleeping with the director so when she was on the top she stabbed herself in the stomach where the eating disorder is
This can also be a metaphor about the eating disorder because of how it affects a menstrual cycle and blood and skin health
Yup my whole body was dried up and itchy
I’m really glad my mom never did any of this crazy shit to me as a kid, I was a proud tomboy growing up. I’d never even imagined being a ballerina or a pageant girl like so many are today. I feel so deeply, genuinely sorry for those girls who will have to endure trauma inflicted by the person who should protect them the most😭
I didn’t think this film was horror. But I love this film so so so much!
The delivery is what makes it a psychological horror not necessarily the story or its contents/motive. Kinda like the struggles of adult life it can be delivered as a part of growning up and Changing or the inevitable force that moves us to dust as our bodies age or as growing into a freedom of sense or being forced into a cage of responsibility
@@kateajurors8640 thanks! And I mean I did have moments when I jumped so it definitely works lol.
Its not... it's a drama with minor horror elements and the word black in the title....
@@kateajurors8640 it's not a horror movie and it barely has horror elements outside of the jumpscares....people have meltdowns, hallucinations and overall paranoia in other genres...it is a drama movie....the academy didn't look at it as a horror movie....horror fans just want a movie with an important oscar
I watched this movie for the first time about a month ago. It was so good! I was slightly confused on some parts of this movie & searched for some kinda explanation online. So happy this was posted! Keep up the good work FoundFlix!
Who said she died?? We didn't get to see anything except for Nina passed out rightfully since she's been performing with an open wound. It's an open ending that left the door open for us to create different endings and i honestly like to believe she was rushed to hospital to get treatment for her wound and then psychiatric evaluation and maybe a few months or even years in therapy to get back to normal
But the rather "sad" ending is so much better as it is referring to "the white swan found freedom through death"
one of my favorite movies of all time i’m so happy you covered this!
My exact response!
I watched this movie with my parents when I was around 14... It was a very uncomfortable experience to say the least... But Mila Kunis has always been my celebrity crush so that made it a little bit better.
Imagine if they casted Kiera Knightley for the role of Lily
So glad you mention Perfect Blue!
She is SO skinny in the movie and it’s sad to think ballerinas are constantly having to starve themselves to stay small
you should review perfect blue!! my mind is so blown by the fact the black swan took inspiration from it
Appreciate you recommending Perfect Blue. It's an insane and really sad movie.
This is an iconic movie and I really like you referenced Polanski's Repulsion. Definitely had many of the same feels to it.
Okay you mentioning perfect blue definitely convinced me to watch this (fav animated movie ever)
I just watched this for the first time yesterday, timing was perfection 🤯
Loved this movie
Prompted me to watch Darin's other film Requiem for a dream.
I realized that the movie is based on Nina's perspective
I had a time figuring out whats real or in Nina's mind
Requiem for a dream is a trip. That shit scared more than 90% of any horror movies
@@JR-bu7we that movie freaks me out and makes me sad
I always have to watch something upbeat after
I want to check out the one he mentioned repulsions. Sounds creepy by the title lol
@@JR-bu7we that movie made me stick to weed and not watch so much late night tv and buying random stuff 😂
I love your videos. You explain all the little details and moments of character’s emotions that I can’t quite grasp when watching the film. I need your commentary on every film! Not just horror lol
“Now when you take a shit, do it AS the black swan.” HAS ME DEAD
I'm happy you mentioned perfect blue because it definitely deserves recognition!💙
Yes I saw this movie 3 times in the theatres and I’m so glad u did a video on it it’s been one of my favorite movies ever!! Thank u!
LOVE that you're doing this movie Mr Foundflix!🖤
Just really appreciate your analysis and content
I do hope you cover Satoshi Kon's masterpieces. I know he has Paprika and Perfect Blue but I'm curious about his first story that was made into a film, World Apartment Horror.
this is such a refreshing upload. love your work as always!
Im soooo happy you did this !
Awesome review! Forgot how much I enjoyed this flick and your channel.
“now when you take a shit, do it as the black swan” AHAHA
Damn, when the director goes hard and you dislocate your rib on set and he tells you to "stay in character" and then proceed to record the relocating lmao
This is my favorite film, thank you for covering it!!
Yayyyy. I asked for you to do this movie years ago! I'm glad you finally did it. 😊
Regarding Nina and Lily spending the night, Lily says that she went home with one of the guys at the bar.
I loved that you mentioned Perfect Blue! I didnt even think about the similarities but makes sense why i love we both movies 🖤🖤
Still gives me chills I watch it like I’ve never seen it every time. And perfect blue is definitely a timeless anime
definitely one of my favorite films every made, ive been waiting for him to make a vid on this
Wow i got to watch this movie just the audio description alone sounds amazing!
A 40 minute video? I'am all for it
I've been waiting years for this without even knowing it. I LOVE Black Swan.
I love this movie! Thanks for covering it :) keep going❤
So happy you reviewed this, love this movie
I'm freaking glad you mentioned PERFECT BLUE. it is a must see!!!!
Happy to hear the mention of Perfect Blue, I've always wanted to see a Ending Explained for that anime movie, but I have always wondered if an anime movie wouldn't get the views, but I'll still sit here and hope for it, quietly to myself
Hello. I have loved your videos for years and I am a big Ari Astor fan and just recently watched Beau is Afraid. I am still highly confused about it. I was also confused about I'm Thinking of Ending Things until you explained it, and I have heard that the two are similar in terms of symbolism. If you could explain Beau is Afraid that would be great. Thank you!
Amazing work as always! :D
I remember going to the movies to see it when it first came. It was upsettingly beautiful with the surround sound
Brilliant analysis, thank you.
I love when foundflix covers the good movies
Horror in the high desert 1 & 2 are both worth covering. Awesome flicks
I just watched Come True by Anthony Scott Burns and I would love to hear your opinion on it. Absolutely loves some of the design choices. Keep up the great work!
Omggg thank u for making this video! I still remember how i slid into ur dms two years ago just to request black swan and mulholland drive lmao. Love this movie smm
I remember seeing this is in the theater when it first came out. This was such a good movie.