@@m100mike 2, 3, 4, 5, up to 18 on the floor or 2 or 3 on the tree and most punk-ass kids wouldn't stand a chance. Unless maybe they had worked on a farm or had a classic car, a clutch is totally foreign to them. I had a manual gas tank valve with a shut off under the driver's seat. THAT THING WORKED GREAT! Especially back when everyone who drove needed to know how to work a clutch so as not to look like an idiot. If the vehicle didn't start they would start looking around for a kill switch, but running out of gas, right in the middle of the road, within effective rifle range of my house? Abort! Abort! Run away! The cops might stop, or I might be walking out with a .223 Remington AR-15 or a Mini 14 and a .357 Remington Mag S&W Model 27 to go find my truck. If I could see it from the house, and anyone was around it, .338 Win mag or .300 Win Mag reaches out a couple or three blocks VERY EASILY, with fantastic results, especially that .338 grizzly bear gun.
I was a radio communications technician in the US Air Force. When he mentioned that the key sends out a radio frequency constantly and thieves scan the neighborhood for that key frequency, all you have to do is use an RF (Radio Frequency) shield to cover the key. Save yourself $$$ and use a DIY Reynolds Aluminum foil to cover your key. Since the Aluminum is a conductor of electricity, it forms a barrier often called a Faraday Cage, entirely stopping the key radio wave from being transmitted in the airwaves for thieves to steal the frequency and your car from picking up the signal. That black pouch he's holding probably has an aluminum foil or some RF shield sandwiched inside the material. To make your car even more thief proof, get a manual clutch.
I make semiconductors for those key fobs. The fob does not send a beacon 24/7, that is not how it works. That would drain the fob battery. Instead, your fob is receiving signals, it is listening 24/7. Only when it picks up your car does it send a signal back. The black box used to steal a car amplifies the car signal to the house and relays it back to the car. It’s a bit more complicated than that but wanted you to know the fob is not sending a beacon out. It only “handshakes” after it receives the correct code. Receiving takes little power and the fob battery lasts a long time.
I like Canadians too. They gave us hockey and maple syrup. I don't care too much for their government run health care system, but that's another story. Thanks again for the tip I will pass it on.
@@beefcakes27 Canadian My ass..this was was stolen by an employee at the dealership the owner took it for service...Look for the Puerto Rican employee who works for the local outfit.
@@peteriskrumings8771 I don't know about all vehicles, but I was flipping through the owner's manual for a Malibu my son bought a couple years ago because it's so loaded with tech that I wanted to see what all it could do. If I'm not wrong there was a setting to turn off that keyless entry and to just use the fob buttons. So maybe some vehicles have it but it's buried in a thousand pages and twenty-seven menus? 🙄
There is another way: on your Toyota key fob, HOLD DOWN the lock button and press the unlock button twice. Your hand gesture will not open your door. Now you must push the key bob button to open your door. do it in malls or a home.
For Tacoma, holding down the lock button, press the unlock twice, light will flash about 4 times and fob signals are turned off. Press lock or unlock to restart signal. Saves on battery power also.
Tried this on a 2019 Ford Explorer and it didn't work. Got the Wisdom Pro Faraday Pouch in the mail today. Saw this video a couple days ago and ordered two. Have one one the older style FOB too for a 2009 Ford Explorer.
My Mom passed away in 2016. I handled her estate. She had a car with a manual lock, and the manual keyed ignition. It was a bit like going back in time. No "beep to open", you had to put the key in, and turn it.
That’s my solution I drive vehicles no one wants to steal. One van was stolen quickly recovered but no tools. But how to keep thieves from breaking in to steal my tools. Most of my vehicles were not new few on the hot to steal list.
In 2006, I had stolen from me a 1986 beat-up Chevy Caprice, and they only drove it around "joy riding" for a couple of days before abandoning it... old sh!tty cars are not immune to being stolen
2023 thieves steal my Honda Ridgeline truck from a shopping mall. My 5 year old granddaughter and I wandering up and down the rows looking for it... That night after research, I am sending this video to my circle of people with the hope it helps someone else avoid the pain and trouble we are now dealing with. Thank you! I've ordered 3 of the pouches to share with others too!
Great information. Insurance companies should GIVE these pouches away to new customers who are insuring a car that uses these keyless fobs. And isn’t it ironic that the purpose of designing a sleeker, slimmer solution to the old car key we were all used to now means one has to carry the device in a large, bulky bag and remove it before it will work. And It’s one more thing to keep track of. So much for “simplifying” modern “conveniences”. Great video… thank you!
@@kath3611 In my comment I said that the INSURANCE companies should give away the pouches to their customers who insure these vehicles. It is the insurance companies (thus you and me who pay premiums) who have to pay out to cover the stolen/damaged vehicles. It would be in THEIR best interest to make this investment to reduce their costs. But since they can just raise their premiums that we have to pay, well, it’s no real trouble for them after all.
Yeah, it is a bit of a pain to use a faraday pouch. I bought one similar to the one he has but ended up not using it as it was too bulky and frankly a pain to take the fob it in and out of the pouch. There is a way to disable the feature allowing RF signals to open the door and force you to push the open button on the key fob like in the old days, but it won't stop thieves from starting the car with a push button. They will often configure a new key fob by connecting a device to the ODB2 port. Therefore you should get a ODB2 port lock preventing this. I installed that.
The investigation is over. Massive auto theft ring in Ontario was busted. Operation Myra resulted in the arrest of 200 people or so… great video! Nicely done
My son purchased new car with Fob and Keyless entry. Everything you had but did not no about what you went thru, I sent him the UA-cam clip and he just told me he bought the equipment you recommended. No body will ever know if your recommendation prevented it from happening to him but I think it did. We need more people like you in this country. Thank you and God Bless.......
The security folks have been keeping things like key fobs, RFID passports/DLs, and credit cards in their aluminum foil wallets (hats?) for ages. Glad folks are becoming more aware.
@Paul Small And when you're stranded on the side of the road with a breakdown I'll come pick you up with my girlie Toyota Tacoma. I'm on my sixth Toyota Tacoma and I will never buy anything but Toyota.
@@lennyf1957 6 toyotas? Wow. I guess the main thing that matters is in how long of a period of time? 10yrs? 20yrs? 30yrs? For 6 toyotas, i sure hope you either abuse the crap out of them or the timeframe of owning them all is like 90yrs. I dont have a bigboy dodge ram but i have an 02 Dakota. That thing has survived pot heads, crack heads, and meth heads. It started having problems after drug addicts started hanging around my parents house yrs ago. But it still worked. I still have the truck. Battery finally crapped out. Got a family now and had to get something bigger than it. So its been on the back burner until i can do a tune up and battery. Anyway, weve had that truck since 2004. Because of that truck and a few other mopars ive had, im a mopar or no car guy. My family likes chevy, and my half sister has fords, they all seem to have problems. Dont know many that have foreign cars that have good luck. I mean i see em around i just dont know those people.
As a matter for future reference, most Japanese cars' FOB units may send a signal constantly, but most European cars have a two-way key authorization system where the key FOB is recognized by the antennas on the car, THEN the FOB sends a signal and the key and ECU are "shuffled" to a secondary state where the FOB must match the second code for the start button to work. Audi, Porsche, many BMW's and even some VW's have been equipped with this type of two-way, two-level security since 2005-2010. Porsche has gone one better by adding in a proximity steering lock.
Sam BalloonKnot, Who cares if you watched the whole thing? One day you may find enough time to make some shitty UA-cam videos that no one will watch. Hopefully you will so you give like minded whiney biatches a place to complain.
You are SO right, Sir Dead: a much better world. It’s lazy bums like SamKnot here who are too impatient to appreciate hard work (hours) and Good Ethics emerging from a human. Sam probably looks like Ben Stiller at the End Credits of Zoolander.
"All car dealerships should throw these fob protectors at no additional cost." That was my thought exactly--he paid for a top-of-the-line package, and the dealer and/or manufacturer can't be bothered to throw in a $10 Faraday pouch? (Especially when it would cost them far less purchasing in bulk.) At the very least they should proactively notify buyers of this risk, instead of pretending it doesn't exist and just hoping their customer doesn't learn the hard way as OP did. And since the manufacturers already knew about it, why aren't the key fobs themselves designed with a built-in kill switch to deactivate the constant pinging?
"All car dealerships should throw in these fob protectors at no additional cost."...lmfao. car dealers are sum bags.. they are not going to miss an opportunity to sell you another new car.
I had my nissan frontier stolen with 3K miles. I got the truck back because the thief was taking it to Denver to a chop shop. State police said the truck would have been parted out in about 3 hours. Parts are more profitable than the whole truck itself. Thanks for the video!
I checked the conversion, $11.95 ca is about $9.00 US. I don't have a vehicle that is new enough to have this type of fob, but if any one I know does, I'll be sure to tell them about this. Police can't always stop this type of thing, we the people need to help them by making efforts to protect ourselves. Great information. Thank you for sharing it. Have a good day.
@@evertmorse8518 I couldn't say for sure, have never had this type system, but I would think taking the key fob out when you need it and return it to the pouch when done, should go a long way toward safeguarding your vehicle. I realize, while you are at the store or mall or wherever, the fob would be vaunerable, but the chance of someone following you there just to get the code I would think would be minimal.
You can also put a hidden kill switch on your vehicle. They won't even think to look for it and the car won't start if you switched it off. Just have to remember to toggle it to prevent theft though.
my friend put on a hidden toggle switch for the fuel pump... if the toggle is off fuel runs out when the truck is in the middle of the street 100 yards away... found his truck like this 3 times...
@@tunahxushi4669planning to do this as well… if anyone tried to steal my car they wouldn’t even make it off the property bc my house is at least 200 yards from the road 😂
" Great point ! " You took the words right out of my mouth ! A $10 electrical toggle switch for a cars fuel pump mounted under the drivers seat works perfectly . It's so simple ... but that's the problem . It's to simple and effective that car manufactures or antitheft manufactures wouldn't make any $$$ from it . Just think outside the box people ... its not that difficult
You are a very special human being. Going thru the effort of creatin this video just to help all of us avoid a terrible experoence like the one you went through. Your video is extremely helpful and you affered all that super important information that will save us lots of hours of research , even when you'not affiliated or being paid by the key fob company. Im very thankful. Im so glad you where able to find out what hsppened and you were able to get a new truck. May God bless you, your wife and all your family , many, many times !!
Thanks very kindly Edwin. I know it is not a perfect solution but hopefully minimizes the risk and has helped a few folks. All the best to you and yours!
@@zoezzzarko1117 I wouldn't think so. It only takes a $4 switch and a few feet of wire although you could get creative with the job (image the tanker truck start sequence from Fury Road) . My guess is you would be charged about an hour labor. If you are going to have it done go to a place does car stereo's and alarm installs (not Best Buy). A traditional mechanic could do it but audio / alarm guys know how to be creative in that realm. For an example of simple creativity I added a fuel pump cutoff to my friends street legal track car. I noticed a location on his dash that was plugged but was for a feature that was only available on the deluxe package for his car, I think it might have been fog lights. What I did was I had him purchase a fog light switch from the dealership and used that. That way the switch was easily accessible, blended right in, and he didn't have a "mystery button" under his dashboard.
@@zoezzzarko1117 No you can buy a toggle switch for 99 cent's. A mechanic can tie it into the alternator where the car wont start period, or the fuel pump. With the fuel pump they might make it a half of a block before the car shuts down. Only thing is you cant use remote start if your trying to warm up your car.
Auto makers and dealers want them to steal you vehicle so they can sell you another one. I don't know about Canada but I know in the US from personal experience these organized crime syndicates also have many police departments on their payroll and the thief's are only caught when the police are in danger of getting caught.
@@court2379 My thoughts Exactly !!!!!!!!!! Everything is Arse about face !!!!! Great big Key fob in your pocket !!!!!!!!- leaves less room for the genitals!!
Thank you so much, Gord. That was really scary. I've never had a car with keyless entry/start. When and if I ever have one, I will have you to thank for the security of knowing my vehicle won't be stolen. Great video!!
I feel so bad for this guy he worked hard to get that truck and some prick comes along and steals it, it amazes me the lenghts people are willing to go in order not to work for their things.
@@Aut0magiic - In a lot of cases it isn't low level. It's very sophisticated. Just look at how many police pursuits there are (for example) in Los Angeles, and corresponding chop shops all over LA. There are tons of random kids out there stealing cars and then selling them to these organized crime operations.
@@lexbeltran1354 That's a real problem all over. There are companies that have made a steel cover box that can be installed. It's not cheap , but it's about all u can do if u don't garage your vehicle.
Gordon, from my perspective, that was your best publication ever. You just educated an electrical engineer about the value of Faraday cages! I mean, we have these for our credit cards, but I never thought we needed them for our key fobs. We will be shopping on the Amazon tomorrow. But more emotionally (yes, engineers have emotions), I am greatly disturbed to hear that this took place in Canada. I have been up to BC and AB dozens of times to ski and I always came home believing Canadians are much more honest and decent than us Yanks. My illusions are shattered. Please keep up the good work and restore my illusions.
Morning Pete! LOL! To be honest, I remembered it from high school but had to look it up to refresh my memory. :)) I guess there is a little bit of bad everywhere but don't worry, lots of great folks up here! Have a good weekend and all the best!
Organized crime members know there isn’t really any punishment for car theft. Canadian courts are reluctant to jail anybody. Especially a property crime like theft. So really there’s not much risk for them. Not like the States.
@@janetyeoman1544 some states quit charging thieves with felony for vehicle theft and now its barely slap on wrist! Hard to believe and i don't understand why. Encourages theft! Mostly joyride and transport across town or used in burglaries then abandoned.
@@janetyeoman1544 he didn't understand WHY. Let's get back to the verb.. organized. Well maybe that's the noun. Anyway.. courts don't prosecute criminals. Maybe they want to protect them...
What a huge security oversight. Thanks for the video. I would add a fuel shutoff switch and battery disconnect as well if you wanted to be extra secure.
The crappy part about a battery disconnect----the engine computer is going to lose all it's parameters for the engine running at maximum efficiency. That's why there are devices made to plug in to provide computer voltage if you ever have to replace the vehicle's battery. Fuel or ignition disable switch would be the best option in my opinion.
The fuel shut off works really well with an older car that has mechanical fuel pump and carburator. It will start but run out of gas. The car won't be very far away.
Interesting to think the insurance company did not do this simple research so they don’t have to keep on paying for a new truck. $12 could’ve save them thousands. Great video and great info thank you sir!
Case in point certain year hyundai vehicles manufactured with no security features on the vehicle at all. When brought to light after thousands of their vehicles were getting stolen, their miracle solution was to send the owners of the compromised vehicles that have not been stolen yet a steering wheel lock. The same steering wheel locks that can be defeated in seconds. WOW what a deal! As far as the insurance companies go it would not be the first time that they shot themselves in the foot.
@@jodemit655 People are so weird. I got introduced to these push button remote garage door opener vehicles just a couple years ago from moving others' out of the way. First time was in the dark and it looked like a space ship instrument panel and instantly noticed the hologram in the rear view mirror! I wouldn't own one. First time driving one in the snow, not long ago, I almost ran it into the curb from hundreds of feet away, AI brakes, five times sliding. Just wait for the electronics to hick-up and just see how long it takes to it hunt down. I just found out that if you leave the keys in one at twenty below you are in trouble. What is one to do? Breath on them in a freezing cabin and hope? What about the battery? Always carry one? Talk about electronics, I had to stainless steel safety wire the cheap plastic terminators, that the locks break at a touch, together for all of the taillights! Kinda like Guido Sarducci "Where you don't know if you're coming or a going.". Brake lights are important...
Modern day insurance companies have completely changed. They now actually want more claims so they can justify raising rates and get government tax right-offs on their losses. My care was totaled and my insurance co. didn't even go after the owner of the vehicle or his insurance co. They simply wrote me a check and then promptly raised my rates. They are MAGA scam artist covered by the state and federal governments.
@@garystanfield2274 you get a cigar my friend. You have hit the nail right square on its freakin head. THAT is exactly what happens. They love to pay out so they have excuses to raise their rates. They make a TON that way.
Read you owners manual, my Toyote Corolla key fob has a sleep mode you can place it in with a certain button combination (For mine it is hold down lock and double press unlock) so that it does not transmit. No need for foil or a pouch. This is useful for when you want to lock your key fob in the car like going swimming at the beach. and then use the removable mechanical key that is not damaged by water to unlock the door when you get back.
@@jameskoralewski1006 well ok but they'd have to break into the car and Know that your key was there, isn't the purpose to just stop the transmitting feature??
Great video! I'm getting a Pouch now. 6/16/23 after two years looking and waiting, I found my 2023 Tacoma Limited. Black on black and I do NOT want it stolen. Thanks again from Kentucky.
Walking out in the morning and not finding your car is akin to being in a dream. Asking yourself where did I park it, I am sure that I drove it home last night and parked it right there. And then, you start to accept the fact that you have been robbed, then feeling like you have done something wrong, then dammed mad all in a flash of thoughts. Yep, its a strange set of feelings! Thanks for the video, I am using a sheet of aluminum foil to wrap the fobs in till the pouches get here.
The FIRST thing I taught of when these "Keyless Ignition" cars and trucks came out was..."This will be the easiest vehicles to steal. It would be like leaving your keys in the car. As a former LEO I found that RFI (Radio Frequency Identifiers) could pick up your remote signal when you use it to LOCK YOUR DOORS. That was bad enough, now,,the WHOLE Vehicle can be taken over by the same thing. And, you can buy them off EBAY. This had to be the Dumbest thing vehicle makers EVER DID..>EVER DID
I’m not waiting to give this as a Christmas present to my wife and boys. As soon as I write this, logging onto Amazon and ordering them. Update: I ordered them and they were $8.99. Thank you for sharing your story!
2001 is my newest vehicle. Simply because, well they're simpler. Better mechanically a lot of times. I own an auto repair shop and came from dealerships as a tech and management. So it's not a money thing. I like when I get in my vehicles and they start and run.
Great presentation! I have a Hyundai Santa Fe and received a recall addressing this issue. When I take it to the shop I’ll check if more protection is warranted. Your analysis and presentation was excellent. Thank you.
Gary G: Good idea, and certainly effective! Except, then some attorney for the family of the "victim" would claim it was "Police entrapment"...for "tempting" them to steal the vehicle. And the bottom line: instead of the Judge saying: "Get the hell out of my courtroom, your dumb ass (insert relative name here) should not have tried to steal the vehicle. Next case!", they penalize the Police Dept. and the taxpayers end up rewarding the family for the criminal they "lost".
My 2020 4Runner was stolen last week. Toyota used the Connected Services GPS tracking device to find it for me. Unfortunately, I lost thousands of dollars of camping gear and mementos from my late-father. However, we recovered the vehicle by giving Connected Services the police report number. Found it same day across town. I'll be investing in a starter kill security system soon! Nice video!
Turn your keyfob off when you're not using the vehicle. Hold the lock button and press unlock two times. It will blink 4 times and then to make the key work again press the unlock button. You have to do this each tines. They can't unlock or start your 4 Runner.
@@chadhaire1711 well.. True. I have a security gate to go through and a gate to my home. So if they happen to get the cars I own and manage to escape they will have to hope the tracking on the car doesn't work either. Your Toyota should have tracking on it.
@@CaliAmg all they have to do is park next to you at the mall or other parking lot..they will get the code when you leave.......BEFORE YOU TURN THE FOB OFF.....your truck will not be there when you come back......the tracker will be disconnected right away. The only way to stop them is a disconnect switch....
@@chadhaire1711 if they want it that bad they can have it. That's why I pay full coverage. It sucks we live in a world like this but the manufacturers need to fix the issue or back to keys. Even that doesn't work. I've had my Lincoln stolen and returned and they drilled the ignition to hot wire. I get what you're saying though.
Glad you got your truck back! And if young people channeled their talents and skills for the better good, we'd definitely have a better and safer, less expensive world. Thanks for the video!
It's a shame you had to go through this. But this is what good people do when they have been wronged. Thank you for sharing your story, the research and then fix to this situation. Have a great day!!
Bless you for making this video!! So sorry about your truck but, at least you found out how to protect cars from now on. Glad you have more peace of mind and good luck in your adventures!
I'm here again two years later and the pouch works great! I would add though that there are two pockets. One of them blocks the signal and the other one doesn't. It is convenient to leave the fob in the one that doesn't block the signal, but I'm just realizing that I'm taking a big risk every time I go somewhere. However, I did buy a second pouch for my spare fob and leave it in the pocket that blocks the signal. The spare sits in the house. Thanks for the reminder to protect my regularly used fob.
Thank you so much! Looking at a new truck, with extras as I can afford after years of buying the basic models! I had no clue about fobs or this kind of theft. So sorry you were a victim, so grateful you shared. God bless you from the USA.
Thanks GPO, My wife asked me yesterday about the possibility of our car being stolen. I told her I thought it was not likely because of the fob ignition. Your video popped up today to tell me otherwise. Subscribed!
@@jameswatt4694 And sometimes, it seems all you have to do is just think about something and you'll get a video suggestion or ad on your phone .. which is a little scary.
Yes. I miss being able to easily go into run mode without starting the engine. You can go into accessory with push button start, but that isn't the same as run.
Thank you so much for sharing your story. Sorry to hear what you had to go through. You are the epitome of turning a negative into a positive! This is so useful, I just purchased mine. Thank you Sir!
LOL! Thanks John. I preferred that new invention myself, but wanted the off road capabilities of this truck so that fancy option was not available. Thanks for the morning smile. :))
@@GPOutdoors Thanks for the vidio, if you can turn the fob off,and turn it on with any button,i am the one that would butt dial it and have my car stolen . have a great day!
have a airbag installed in the seat? shoots them thru the roof,it would be funny on youtube if you cold get it on camera,probably get sued by the thief though
Read all of the 1 and 2 star reviews and you'll get an idea of what your getting. I did some work for a woman who was a paid reviewer for Amazon, she said not to trust good reviews.
Great video. I'm in Canada too, and I just bought an expensive car and of course it has FOB keys. Been doing a lot of research online on how to protect it from thieves. Typical alarms are not effective, because it takes 10 seconds to grab a fuse or relay from under the hood, to kill the audible alarm. So far, I got a RF blocking pouch for the keys, and neutral gear access blocking plate. Next step is to install some kind of PIN code keypad ignition system that would block FOB cloning and engine start, unless a proper PIN is entered on the keypad. Because even if they cannot 'read' your FOB RF signal, all they have to do is break the window, get in, rip apart the dash under the glove compartment, start their diagnostics tablet, and it takes then less than a minute to program a new key. So, unless FOB cloning is disabled on your truck, it's not exactly safe. Thanks for the video.
That’s why got get an alarm where there’s a sensor you can make as sensitive as you want so when the vehicle feels the slightest movement the Alarm goes off.
Thank You for taking the time to make this video. Its people like you that make You tube Great. !!! Very good info that I never would have thought of. I hope you didnt loose to much with your insurance company. I kinda wish you were my neighbor (lol) I friggin hate those dang FOBs. Cheers from Coventry Connecticut USA !!
Thanks for sharing this information. I really thought that no one will get into my truck without the FOB but after seeing this, it’s kind of giving me a second thought.
That pouch is a great idea. It not only keeps your truck from being stolen but it also makes it easier to find your keys in the morning. They also make aluminium wallets to keeps credit cards from being read w/ portable devices.
Wow, thanks for sharing. The vehicle manufacturers should be including key fob protective pouches with the vehicle and educating new owners on the importance of using them.
We’ve tried those pouches over the years. Our experience has shown they become unreliable after half a year as they wear out in pockets and bags and need replacement. At home we use a central metallic box for all our fobs (very reliable) and when we’re out shopping we don’t use anything anymore tbh as they’re less chances in public of thieves swaying rods to pick up and boost signals. Recently we hid some apple airtags in our cars as well.
Just take the battery out of the fob to disable it and not use it anymore, and instead just use the key by itself to open the door and start your vehicle the old fashion way. Your alarm should still arm, but test it to make sure. Carrying around a pouch for your key fob sounds like a pain in the butt.
@@faodail3913 So owners are stuck using the keyless “push to start” button? There isn’t an option to put the key in an ignition cylinder and turn it to start the car anymore? Do steering wheels still lock?
@@LuckyCharms777 The fob actually has a little pull out key thing that unlocks the door, if you have flat battery, but it only seems to let you into the car to replace the car battery. We can't see anywhere you can insert it to actually start the car, unlike older versions where you could. Don't know if there is a steering wheel lock, not one worked by the key anyway.
Here's a simple way. Add a kill switch. Add an on/off switch to the ground side of the fuel pump circuit. Without the ground, the car can't start. Switch and few feet of electrical wire doesn't cost much. This is the best way to prevent from thief.
That's exactly what I did except on mine I tied in to the brake peddle switch. The car wont go into gear unless the brake peddle is pressed. By splicing the wire with an on off switch hidden down under the dash. I can disable the micro switch that detects brake peddle depressed. I did it this way so I can still use remote start or leave the truck running without fear of someone jumping in and taking off or even trying to rob me and steal the truck at lets say the gas pump. They can start it but it wont go anywhere and I would just play dumb and say it was working before...
That’s what I was thinking. They also make keyed switches so you could use that too. Where you place it is up to you. Personally I think a triple kill is better: fuel pump, brake pedal, and starter solenoid. Use the key switch to control 3 relays and you’re golden. Also get a 2 way alarm so that if your vehicle is violated you get notified and can go outside with a 12 gauge.
@@miket5506 wudn you want to control each switch independently? What if thief is brazen or doped up and knows you're not legal to shoot over property? (I know of one case where thief tried his luck and got shot in the back! No charges for owner!) Thief ignored and continued what he was doing.)
I like the idea of auto shut-off, so you have to press it on and then it stays on for 10 minutes. That way there's no fumbling for a key in the dark or with your hands full of groceries but it eliminates this 'constantly transmitting' thing, which seems a huge and senseless flaw
So sorry to hear about what happened to you and glad you made out okay in the end. Thank you so much for taking the time to post your story and this security measure. God bless.
Wow, I had no clue it was that easy to steal a car these days! I'll definitely be more aware when I buy my next vehicle. Those pouches are a great idea.
As the few wonder how fast one can steal a vehicle today when all thieves need is a transponder as within seconds they have copied their own key fob when owners wonder if their vehicle was swiped right under their nose as near a port had those wonder if even police say those may never see their vehicle ever again when they now fight for a replacement vehicle still using traditional ignition switches.
When the police, insurance, and dealer all say "happens all the time, you'll never see the car again, nothing you can do" my first thought was this must be one of the ways the US sends gifts to foreign governments.
If the insurance company would look at their best interest, they would offer such a pouch as a give away when the contract is made. Handling a stolen car case costs the company more than just 12 canadian dollars...
Been using foil for the credit cards for years. I don't know if that signal continues to be sent after the truck starts or not. But, being in close vicinity of another vehicle could conceivably allow that transferring process. Be consistent in your efforts to protect yourself. Therefore, don't throw the key and the fob down anytime without putting it in the case or the fotl. In the case of the older keyless entries, I keep a piece of foil hanging around that fob even when the key is in the ignition.
Back in the 80's I had a Z28. Had a old school dimmer wired in to the ignition (hidden under the carpet). If you didn't activate the dimmer switch the car would not start. Cheap insurance for a sought after vehicle at the time.
Hi .. Thanks for your thoughtful content. I have been using Farady Bags quite awhile. I test them right away and they work fine at first. If you retest after several months of use - not abuse mind you, you may find they are no longer that effective. This has been my experience and have had to replace them. I have written the company I purchased these from (100's of good reviews) and have not heard back yet. Just want to make your readers aware to periodically test. Thanks again for your post.
Morning Rick. That is good advice for everyone. Mine and my wife's still work after more than 2 years - test every couple of months as I remember. One thing my wife and I do is we don't have more than 1 other normal key on the ring so I think that may help since we don't have lots of pointy keys in there. Cheers and all the best!
I recently bought a 2018 Jeep Wrangler. The "JL" version had just been released and it had the RF and push button features. I went with the previous "JK" model (which was the last year for that model, so -hopefully- all the bugs have been worked out). The one I got has no RF, no key fob, no alarms, manual crank windows, and manual door locks. Sometimes, there's just too much technology with these new vehicles.
Update. The criminals can get into your vehicle by picking the key lock if you have a key lock, or they can connect to the headlight, or they can break a window. Once inside the vehicle, they can plug their key programmer into the OBD port and program a blank key bob in less than two minutes. They start you vehicle and drive away with their newly programmed key fob. You need the IGLA system to add a keypass code requirement to start the vehicle. The IGLA device also blocks key programmers. You also need to add an alarm such as the Compustar system. Factory alarms are easily bypassed. GPS tracking is also a good idea, or at least hidden AirTags with the AirTag speaker disabled to make it much more difficult for the criminals to find the AirTags. Install more than one AirTag. After you start the vehicle, can you put the key fob back in the faraday pouch right away, while driving the vehicle? Or, do you need to leave the key fob outside the faraday pouch continuously while the vehicle is running? The faraday pouch reduces your exposure to auto theft, but it doesn’t eliminate it because you have to expose the key fob to open the door and start the vehicle for a reduced time period. To reduce the risk of auto theft lower, I think some type of aftermarket kill switch might be a good idea. The auto manufacturers know about this vulnerability to auto theft, and do not attempt to redesign the system. The auto manufacturers should be sued with a class action lawsuit and/or sued by the insurance companies.
Vote for political candidates who will make the penalty for car theft severe enough to stop it. California Democrats have mostly decriminalized vehicle theft and scold victims for not having automobile theft insurance as cheerfully chirp no one gets hurt that way!
The auto theft taps into the data line that runs to the headlights. They have a device that looks like a USB speaker, but is really a auto theft tool. That supposedly could give them cover from the police if possessing burglary tools is a crime. The thefts could break the rear windows, which I’ve heard are not covered by the factory alarms. If there is a neutral strap, they that could put the car into neutral and push the vehicle away for a distance with another vehicle. Auto thefts also use a key fob retransmission device. It picks up the key fob signal that’s transmitted continuously from the key fob inside your house to the vehicle on your driveway, or nearby where the key fob is located. The vehicle then can be unlocked and started, just like the key fob could be used if the criminal had the key fob. The vehicle allows cage criminal to drive away, even though there’s no key fob in the vehicle. The auto thieves also that key fob programmers. They remove your fob from the vehicle’s configuration and program a blank key fob for your vehicle. The auto thieves are greatly assisted by the poor security of the key fob passive entry push button start system. But the auto manufacturers do not care if your vehicle is stolen, because that translates to more auto sales for the vehicle manufacturers. The solution to the auto theft problem is the IGLA PIN code system. The IGLA PIN code system requires you to press a sequence of buttons on your steering wheel and other buttons in your vehicle, to be able to start the vehicle. Think of it like a combination lock to start the vehicle. If the criminal doesn’t know the combination needs to be pressed, or doesn’t know the combination, the vehicle cannot be started. The IGLA PIN code device also blocks the key fob programmers from functioning. In addition to the IGLA PIN code system, a Compustar Drone alarm system is installed. The alarm system makes a lot of noise and draws attention to the criminal, and discourages the active crime scene from continuing. The alarm system also alerts the owner’s cellphone that the criminal is breaking into the vehicle. The criminal wants an easy target, and does not want to be potentially shot and killed by the vehicle’s owner. The downside for the protection is the cost. The IGLA PIN code system costs $1,200 for installation. The IGLA PIN code system, plus the Compustar Drone alarm system installation costs about $2,000. Plus about $200 a year to subscribe to the alarm system notification service. The kill switches can be circumvented by auto thieves, if they are talented enough in their criminal occupation. The IGLA PIN code and Compustar Drone alarm system is the best way to prevent the vehicle theft. Supposedly, there are about 600,000 installed IGLA PIN code systems installed, and none of those vehicles have been stolen.
Never use the fob.. take the batteries out and forget about it.. use the admin key the old school way.. lock and unlock physically, if you want extra security if you're not feeling safe at night then disconnect the battery before you go in to the house, or better yet even if it is annoying take it out completely and store it in the house.. put a gps tracker hidden somewhere inside the car, the ones with a sim card in it, when you call the number it doesn't ring or make any noise and it gives you the exact location of your car and when it answers it enables audio so you can listen to what's going on around your vehicle.. ✌️
We found it much easier to just remove the OBD port fuse. Very easy to put back in when needed, e.g., dealership. We use faraday pouches for our fobs and tin foiled all our spare fobs. We put tiles in all our cars. Ford and Jeep have apps to track our vehicles.
Great video. One other thing worth knowing is that on most fobs there is a button sequence that turns off transmission and accomplishes the same thing. For Toyota you hold the lock button and press unlock twice (while holding lock). The fob will no longer transmit until you press another button on the fob.
so you either use the spare keys to unlock the car and disable the alarm by doing so or you dont lock the door coz you have to disable the fob everytime you lock/unlock using the remote buttons.
@@TomatoTomato911 No, I lock the car up and then disable the fob (takes no time - hold the lock button and press unlock twice). Now the car is locked and the fob is inactive. When I am ready to drive again I just press the unlock button and the fob is active again. Takes no time. You can do it a dozen times a day if you want it’s easy.
@@pringlw takes 2 hands so its cumbersome especially if you have shopping bags. it also takes an extra step all the time compared to oldskool buttoned remotes.
I don't have the push button start setup in my car, but a simple thing like an on off button on those type remotes would prevent a huge amount of theft apparently. I know that kind of defeats the whole 'hands-free' thing, but if it prevents your car from being stolen, its worth that little hassle of flipping the switch on the remote.
There are fewer and fewer neighbours like this. Trudeau has imported what he calls the "New Canadians" and let me tell you, these "new" Canadians are absolutely nothing like the old Canadians. They are more Chinese, Indian and Muslim... whose values are nothing like Canadian values.
Well done. Thanks. It is distressing to have a car stolen; I had a new Jeep CJ5 stolen in 1974; it was located in a swamp one day BEFORE it would have been declared a total loss. The insurance company refused to do so and refused to authorize procedures recommended by the dealer. I have been told NOT to use the fob to lock my car when in a parking lot but to manually depress the lock button as I exit because thieves sit in their cars with scanners. My truck is an 07 so the fob doesn't continuously broadcast a signal. Given this problem, I'm surprised lawyers haven't filed class action lawsuits against auto manufacturers for negligence.
Thank you for the video, I recently went through the same thing. I was watching your video and went "yep" more times than I care to count! I recently purchased a faraday pouch from Crappy Tire and it works. I find that I rush my passengers out of my car now though, "hurry before someone steals my signal!" That's something being bandied around the house these days. The fob doesn't do anything in the pouch though. I wish I had seen your video 6 months ago! Gone in 60 seconds is a myth, it's gone in 10 minutes between midnight and 6am. A guy walks up right up to your car, dressed all in black, carrying a backpack. Fiddles around for 10 minutes and drives away. I had 2 clear cameras on my car and he never looked at any of them once. If I had known for $20-30 I could have saved myself that agony, I would have bought a pouch months ago. I also thought the car was looking for the fob and not the other way round.
My truck has a better security feature that very few know how to get around. A clutch.
Hahaha now I like this because I laughing at what is simply true!
3 on the tree
@@m100mike wait doesnt that activate the wipers? hahah
@@m100mike 2, 3, 4, 5, up to 18 on the floor or 2 or 3 on the tree and most punk-ass kids wouldn't stand a chance. Unless maybe they had worked on a farm or had a classic car, a clutch is totally foreign to them. I had a manual gas tank valve with a shut off under the driver's seat. THAT THING WORKED GREAT! Especially back when everyone who drove needed to know how to work a clutch so as not to look like an idiot. If the vehicle didn't start they would start looking around for a kill switch, but running out of gas, right in the middle of the road, within effective rifle range of my house? Abort! Abort! Run away! The cops might stop, or I might be walking out with a .223 Remington AR-15 or a Mini 14 and a .357 Remington Mag S&W Model 27 to go find my truck. If I could see it from the house, and anyone was around it, .338 Win mag or .300 Win Mag reaches out a couple or three blocks VERY EASILY, with fantastic results, especially that .338 grizzly bear gun.
🤣😂🤣😂so true
I was a radio communications technician in the US Air Force. When he mentioned that the key sends out a radio frequency constantly and thieves scan the neighborhood for that key frequency, all you have to do is use an RF (Radio Frequency) shield to cover the key. Save yourself $$$ and use a DIY Reynolds Aluminum foil to cover your key. Since the Aluminum is a conductor of electricity, it forms a barrier often called a Faraday Cage, entirely stopping the key radio wave from being transmitted in the airwaves for thieves to steal the frequency and your car from picking up the signal. That black pouch he's holding probably has an aluminum foil or some RF shield sandwiched inside the material. To make your car even more thief proof, get a manual clutch.
These days most new pickup trucks have automatic transmissions
If you can afford a truck at 50 grand, you can afford a pouch made by a reputable manufacturer.
Same here Marine Corp 2531 radio operator, forward air controller, and tacp tactical air control party.
I'm amazed nobody said just take the battery out of it.
@@johnswick4593 would you want to remove the battery multiple times every day, everywhere you went? Not me.
Notice how this guy speaks without ummms, errrrrrs, no unnecessary pauses. That is the class.
We had a boss who put in a few ummms, so we ran a sweep stake on how many.
unless it is a polished sales pitch- but he seems honest..
He has a mastery of the language and knows his story
Would love to see any of the Politicians talk in this manner.
That is known as a stop gap.
I make semiconductors for those key fobs. The fob does not send a beacon 24/7, that is not how it works. That would drain the fob battery. Instead, your fob is receiving signals, it is listening 24/7. Only when it picks up your car does it send a signal back. The black box used to steal a car amplifies the car signal to the house and relays it back to the car. It’s a bit more complicated than that but wanted you to know the fob is not sending a beacon out. It only “handshakes” after it receives the correct code. Receiving takes little power and the fob battery lasts a long time.
So I need a faraday pouch for the entire vehicle?
@@user-ty2uz4gb7v no, the point is to block the fob from receiving the encoded signal.
Makes total sense. Thanks for your post.
If you had started the truck and you put the key back in the pouch, will it keep on running, or will the engine die? Cheers Cape town 🇿🇦👌
It should act like the key isnt there if the pouch is doing its job..
From a California native , this gentleman reminds me of why I like Canadians. Thank you sir for your very eloquent and thoughtful PSA.
Canadians stole his truck..!
@@beefcakes27 It was organized crime, by somebody in Canada.
Subtle socialist virtue signaling, straight outta Berkeley.
I like Canadians too. They gave us hockey and maple syrup. I don't care too much for their government run health care system, but that's another story. Thanks again for the tip I will pass it on.
@@beefcakes27 Canadian My ass..this was was stolen by an employee at the dealership the owner took it for service...Look for the Puerto Rican employee who works for the local outfit.
Every new vehicle should come with this pouch and instructions on how it protects your car.
Or better give the option to turn off that technology that basically is for lazy people. Just use the damn button to unlock!
@@peteriskrumings8771 I don't know about all vehicles, but I was flipping through the owner's manual for a Malibu my son bought a couple years ago because it's so loaded with tech that I wanted to see what all it could do. If I'm not wrong there was a setting to turn off that keyless entry and to just use the fob buttons. So maybe some vehicles have it but it's buried in a thousand pages and twenty-seven menus? 🙄
@@k.b.tidwellHow would changing that setting prevent someone from obtaining the frequency of the key and using that to steal the vehicle?
YES! BUT WHY WHEN THEY CAN SELL YOU ANOTHER VEHICLE PAID FOR BY YOU OR YOUR INS COMPANY!
There is another way: on your Toyota key fob, HOLD DOWN the lock button and press the unlock button twice. Your hand gesture will not open your door. Now you must push the key bob button to open your door. do it in malls or a home.
For Tacoma, holding down the lock button, press the unlock twice, light will flash about 4 times and fob signals are turned off. Press lock or unlock to restart signal. Saves on battery power also.
@cindyyp. This fob de-activating also works on 4 Runners as well , at least since 2020. My Toyota salesman was unaware of this deactivation
needs to be voted higher
Does that work on Subarus too?
Tried this on a 2019 Ford Explorer and it didn't work. Got the Wisdom Pro Faraday Pouch in the mail today. Saw this video a couple days ago and ordered two. Have one one the older style FOB too for a 2009 Ford Explorer.
I believe so. There are a couple videos on here that explain the Subaru fob in detail.@@allen480
I bet this man is a great father and husband.
I remove my engine every night before I go to bed, kind of a pain but it works
hahahahaha
Easier to add a claymore on the driver side door. The only problem is disarming it with your hands full of groceries...
is your car brand Tamiya?
and some got tired of removing and re-installing engine now have garage door to bedroom and park car beside bed.😂😂😂
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Unlike politicians, you are a credit to the human race! Thanks for the info!
The upside of being poor.
No one steals your car, because no one wants to.
'cause then it would be THEIR problem, not mine.
I can relate Reuben
My Mom passed away in 2016. I handled her estate. She had a car with a manual lock, and the manual keyed ignition. It was a bit like going back in time. No "beep to open", you had to put the key in, and turn it.
same here with my identity. nobody wants my credit score even though I pay my bills. just a funny side note.
That’s my solution I drive vehicles no one wants to steal. One van was stolen quickly recovered but no tools. But how to keep thieves from breaking in to steal my tools. Most of my vehicles were not new few on the hot to steal list.
In 2006, I had stolen from me a 1986 beat-up Chevy Caprice, and they only drove it around "joy riding" for a couple of days before abandoning it... old sh!tty cars are not immune to being stolen
2023 thieves steal my Honda Ridgeline truck from a shopping mall. My 5 year old granddaughter and I wandering up and down the rows looking for it... That night after research, I am sending this video to my circle of people with the hope it helps someone else avoid the pain and trouble we are now dealing with. Thank you! I've ordered 3 of the pouches to share with others too!
Great information. Insurance companies should GIVE these pouches away to new customers who are insuring a car that uses these keyless fobs. And isn’t it ironic that the purpose of designing a sleeker, slimmer solution to the old car key we were all used to now means one has to carry the device in a large, bulky bag and remove it before it will work. And It’s one more thing to keep track of. So much for “simplifying” modern “conveniences”. Great video… thank you!
Insurance company will rather increase your premium than giving those pouches away.
If you can afford the vehicle, you can afford the pouch, get real!
They should give you the information then it's up to you. Why do people think they are entitled to free stuff?
@@kath3611 In my comment I said that the INSURANCE companies should give away the pouches to their customers who insure these vehicles. It is the insurance companies (thus you and me who pay premiums) who have to pay out to cover the stolen/damaged vehicles. It would be in THEIR best interest to make this investment to reduce their costs. But since they can just raise their premiums that we have to pay, well, it’s no real trouble for them after all.
Yeah, it is a bit of a pain to use a faraday pouch. I bought one similar to the one he has but ended up not using it as it was too bulky and frankly a pain to take the fob it in and out of the pouch. There is a way to disable the feature allowing RF signals to open the door and force you to push the open button on the key fob like in the old days, but it won't stop thieves from starting the car with a push button. They will often configure a new key fob by connecting a device to the ODB2 port. Therefore you should get a ODB2 port lock preventing this. I installed that.
725 thieves gave this a thumbs down. Ordered my pouch Thanks.
725 black thieves.
The investigation is over. Massive auto theft ring in Ontario was busted. Operation Myra resulted in the arrest of 200 people or so… great video! Nicely done
Just a few notes: you can turn off your fob with a simple key combination and you should put an air tag hidden with disabled speaker in your car.
My son purchased new car with Fob and Keyless entry. Everything you had but did not no about what you went thru, I sent him the UA-cam clip and he just told me he bought the equipment you recommended. No body will ever know if your recommendation prevented it from happening to him but I think it did. We need more people like you in this country. Thank you and God Bless.......
There's always car scratchers, I've had even windscreen scratched.
The security folks have been keeping things like key fobs, RFID passports/DLs, and credit cards in their aluminum foil wallets (hats?) for ages. Glad folks are becoming more aware.
@Holy Smoke surprise,surprise,surprise....was donald trump a major clue to organized crime in washington?
Agreed - there are still some very good people in this fallen world and yes, we need to reveal them.
So car manufacturers simply need to add an off/on switch to key fobs.
my 06 Ram has that fob feature
@Paul Small I bet you're fun at parties
@Paul Small And when you're stranded on the side of the road with a breakdown I'll come pick you up with my girlie Toyota Tacoma. I'm on my sixth Toyota Tacoma and I will never buy anything but Toyota.
@@lennyf1957 6 toyotas? Wow. I guess the main thing that matters is in how long of a period of time? 10yrs? 20yrs? 30yrs? For 6 toyotas, i sure hope you either abuse the crap out of them or the timeframe of owning them all is like 90yrs.
I dont have a bigboy dodge ram but i have an 02 Dakota. That thing has survived pot heads, crack heads, and meth heads. It started having problems after drug addicts started hanging around my parents house yrs ago. But it still worked.
I still have the truck. Battery finally crapped out. Got a family now and had to get something bigger than it. So its been on the back burner until i can do a tune up and battery. Anyway, weve had that truck since 2004.
Because of that truck and a few other mopars ive had, im a mopar or no car guy. My family likes chevy, and my half sister has fords, they all seem to have problems. Dont know many that have foreign cars that have good luck. I mean i see em around i just dont know those people.
Theres a smart idea.
2 years later and your video is still helping people. Thank you very much for this.
As a matter for future reference, most Japanese cars' FOB units may send a signal constantly, but most European cars have a two-way key authorization system where the key FOB is recognized by the antennas on the car, THEN the FOB sends a signal and the key and ECU are "shuffled" to a secondary state where the FOB must match the second code for the start button to work. Audi, Porsche, many BMW's and even some VW's have been equipped with this type of two-way, two-level security since 2005-2010. Porsche has gone one better by adding in a proximity steering lock.
Ya know, if there were a lot more people around like this guy here, the world wouldn't be so shitty sometimes.
if he didn't take the 10mi talk to get to the point, 5 mins in, I'd watch the whole thing
Sam BalloonKnot, Who cares if you watched the whole thing? One day you may find enough time to make some shitty UA-cam videos that no one will watch. Hopefully you will so you give like minded whiney biatches a place to complain.
@@Sam_Iamknot , Sounds like you don’t care too much about your car being whisked away in the middle of the night or in broad daylight.
You are SO right, Sir Dead: a much better world. It’s lazy bums like SamKnot here who are too impatient to appreciate hard work (hours) and Good Ethics emerging from a human. Sam probably looks like Ben Stiller at the End Credits of Zoolander.
@@Sam_Iamknot it’s called a presentation.
Great advice. All car dealerships should throw in these fob protectors at no additional cost. Many thanks for the advice.
"All car dealerships should throw these fob protectors at no additional cost."
That was my thought exactly--he paid for a top-of-the-line package, and the dealer and/or manufacturer can't be bothered to throw in a $10 Faraday pouch? (Especially when it would cost them far less purchasing in bulk.)
At the very least they should proactively notify buyers of this risk, instead of pretending it doesn't exist and just hoping their customer doesn't learn the hard way as OP did.
And since the manufacturers already knew about it, why aren't the key fobs themselves designed with a built-in kill switch to deactivate the constant pinging?
But when it comes to the dealer they’ll claim it’s a security measure for your new vehicle so it’ll cost you $300
@@MrCxiong116 That is for sure. That is like going to the hospital and getting a saline solution for $600 worth 50 cents.
@@papinoo1159 Tell me again how the US health care system is superior.
"All car dealerships should throw in these fob protectors at no additional cost."...lmfao. car dealers are sum bags.. they are not going to miss an opportunity to sell you another new car.
The wicked grow when the righteous are quiet, so thank you for this video.
I had my nissan frontier stolen with 3K miles. I got the truck back because the thief was taking it to Denver to a chop shop. State police said the truck would have been parted out in about 3 hours. Parts are more profitable than the whole truck itself. Thanks for the video!
Nissan Frontier isn't a truck, it's a ute (utility vehicle). A truck is a much larger commercial transport vehicle.
@@jublywubly The license plate would say truck
And what's crazy is police know about chop shops but do nothing.
I checked the conversion, $11.95 ca is about $9.00 US. I don't have a vehicle that is new enough to have this type of fob, but if any one I know does, I'll be sure to tell them about this. Police can't always stop this type of thing, we the people need to help them by making efforts to protect ourselves.
Great information. Thank you for sharing it. Have a good day.
@@evertmorse8518 I couldn't say for sure, have never had this type system, but I would think taking the key fob out when you need it and return it to the pouch when done, should go a long way toward safeguarding your vehicle.
I realize, while you are at the store or mall or wherever, the fob would be vaunerable, but the chance of someone following you there just to get the code I would think would be minimal.
Teslas have an option for “PIN to drive” even off you have the fob you have to enter the PIN. Great video
Why can't everyone be as honest as him. God bless you and your family. Thank you for sharing and caring.
You can also put a hidden kill switch on your vehicle. They won't even think to look for it and the car won't start if you switched it off. Just have to remember to toggle it to prevent theft though.
my friend put on a hidden toggle switch for the fuel pump... if the toggle is off fuel runs out when the truck is in the middle of the street 100 yards away... found his truck like this 3 times...
@@tunahxushi4669 That's awesome!
@@tunahxushi4669planning to do this as well… if anyone tried to steal my car they wouldn’t even make it off the property bc my house is at least 200 yards from the road 😂
" Great point ! " You took the words right out of my mouth ! A $10 electrical toggle switch for a cars fuel pump mounted under the drivers seat works perfectly . It's so simple ... but that's the problem . It's to simple and effective that car manufactures or antitheft manufactures wouldn't make any $$$ from it . Just think outside the box people ... its not that difficult
I do the same thing. Little toggle switch under the dash. Never find it if you dont know its there.
You are a very special human being. Going thru the effort of creatin this video just to help all of us avoid a terrible experoence like the one you went through. Your video is extremely helpful and you affered all that super important information that will save us lots of hours of research , even when you'not affiliated or being paid by the key fob company. Im very thankful. Im so glad you where able to find out what hsppened and you were able to get a new truck. May God bless you, your wife and all your family , many, many times !!
Thanks very kindly Edwin. I know it is not a perfect solution but hopefully minimizes the risk and has helped a few folks. All the best to you and yours!
They tried to steal my car twice. A simple 2 dollar kill switch saved the day.
100%. I installed one in-line with the fuel pump on 2 of my cars. Even if they manage to start the car they will not make it far.
Good idea
Is it expensive to get done? And how does it work...
@@zoezzzarko1117 I wouldn't think so. It only takes a $4 switch and a few feet of wire although you could get creative with the job (image the tanker truck start sequence from Fury Road) . My guess is you would be charged about an hour labor.
If you are going to have it done go to a place does car stereo's and alarm installs (not Best Buy). A traditional mechanic could do it but audio / alarm guys know how to be creative in that realm.
For an example of simple creativity I added a fuel pump cutoff to my friends street legal track car. I noticed a location on his dash that was plugged but was for a feature that was only available on the deluxe package for his car, I think it might have been fog lights. What I did was I had him purchase a fog light switch from the dealership and used that. That way the switch was easily accessible, blended right in, and he didn't have a "mystery button" under his dashboard.
@@zoezzzarko1117 No you can buy a toggle switch for 99 cent's. A mechanic can tie it into the alternator where the car wont start period, or the fuel pump. With the fuel pump they might make it a half of a block before the car shuts down. Only thing is you cant use remote start if your trying to warm up your car.
Auto makers or dealerships should be giving one of those pouches with every fob
Insurance company
Auto makers and dealers want them to steal you vehicle so they can sell you another one. I don't know about Canada but I know in the US from personal experience these organized crime syndicates also have many police departments on their payroll and the thief's are only caught when the police are in danger of getting caught.
my thoughts also !! though my Land Rover says No Key Detected when the key is in house !
Or...they could go back to keys. Because carrying. Keyfob and a pouch is far less convenient than just using a chipped (RFID) key.
@@court2379
My thoughts Exactly !!!!!!!!!! Everything is Arse about face !!!!!
Great big Key fob in your pocket !!!!!!!!- leaves less room for the genitals!!
Thank you so much, Gord. That was really scary. I've never had a car with keyless entry/start. When and if I ever have one, I will have you to thank for the security of knowing my vehicle won't be stolen. Great video!!
THANK GOD THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE THAT JUST DON'T THINK ABOUT THEM SELF'S AND SHARE IMPORTANT THINGS LIKE THIS....
Think again, he's trying to sell you something.
@@crand20033 you’re an idiot..
I feel so bad for this guy he worked hard to get that truck and some prick comes along and steals it, it amazes me the lenghts people are willing to go in order not to work for their things.
@@Aut0magiic - In a lot of cases it isn't low level. It's very sophisticated. Just look at how many police pursuits there are (for example) in Los Angeles, and corresponding chop shops all over LA. There are tons of random kids out there stealing cars and then selling them to these organized crime operations.
Free truck
In my city, people steal catalytic converters from trucks and sell them on the black market
Sad but true I got to agree with you the corruption gets worse with the rise of population that's going up pretty fast these last few weeks
@@lexbeltran1354 That's a real problem all over. There are companies that have made a steel cover box that can be installed. It's not cheap , but it's about all u can do if u don't garage your vehicle.
Gordon, from my perspective, that was your best publication ever. You just educated an electrical engineer about the value of Faraday cages! I mean, we have these for our credit cards, but I never thought we needed them for our key fobs. We will be shopping on the Amazon tomorrow.
But more emotionally (yes, engineers have emotions), I am greatly disturbed to hear that this took place in Canada. I have been up to BC and AB dozens of times to ski and I always came home believing Canadians are much more honest and decent than us Yanks. My illusions are shattered.
Please keep up the good work and restore my illusions.
Morning Pete! LOL! To be honest, I remembered it from high school but had to look it up to refresh my memory. :)) I guess there is a little bit of bad everywhere but don't worry, lots of great folks up here! Have a good weekend and all the best!
Organized crime members know there isn’t really any punishment for car theft. Canadian courts are reluctant to jail anybody. Especially a property crime like theft. So really there’s not much risk for them. Not like the States.
@@janetyeoman1544 some states quit charging thieves with felony for vehicle theft and now its barely slap on wrist! Hard to believe and i don't understand why. Encourages theft! Mostly joyride and transport across town or used in burglaries then abandoned.
@@janetyeoman1544 he didn't understand WHY. Let's get back to the verb.. organized. Well maybe that's the noun. Anyway.. courts don't prosecute criminals. Maybe they want to protect them...
What a huge security oversight.
Thanks for the video. I would add a fuel shutoff switch and battery disconnect as well if you wanted to be extra secure.
The crappy part about a battery disconnect----the engine computer is going to lose all it's parameters for the engine running at maximum efficiency. That's why there are devices made to plug in to provide computer voltage if you ever have to replace the vehicle's battery. Fuel or ignition disable switch would be the best option in my opinion.
The fuel shut off works really well with an older car that has mechanical fuel pump and carburator. It will start but run out of gas. The car won't be very far away.
Interesting to think the insurance company did not do this simple research so they don’t have to keep on paying for a new truck. $12 could’ve save them thousands. Great video and great info thank you sir!
Case in point certain year hyundai vehicles manufactured with no security features on the vehicle at all. When brought to light after thousands of their vehicles were getting stolen, their miracle solution was to send the owners of the compromised vehicles that have not been stolen yet a steering wheel lock. The same steering wheel locks that can be defeated in seconds. WOW what a deal! As far as the insurance companies go it would not be the first time that they shot themselves in the foot.
@@jodemit655 People are so weird. I got introduced to these push button remote garage door opener vehicles just a couple years ago from moving others' out of the way. First time was in the dark and it looked like a space ship instrument panel and instantly noticed the hologram in the rear view mirror! I wouldn't own one. First time driving one in the snow, not long ago, I almost ran it into the curb from hundreds of feet away, AI brakes, five times sliding. Just wait for the electronics to hick-up and just see how long it takes to it hunt down. I just found out that if you leave the keys in one at twenty below you are in trouble. What is one to do? Breath on them in a freezing cabin and hope? What about the battery? Always carry one? Talk about electronics, I had to stainless steel safety wire the cheap plastic terminators, that the locks break at a touch, together for all of the taillights! Kinda like Guido Sarducci "Where you don't know if you're coming or a going.". Brake lights are important...
Modern day insurance companies have completely changed. They now actually want more claims so they can justify raising rates and get government tax right-offs on their losses. My care was totaled and my insurance co. didn't even go after the owner of the vehicle or his insurance co. They simply wrote me a check and then promptly raised my rates. They are MAGA scam artist covered by the state and federal governments.
THEY GET TO RAISE THE COST OF INSURANCE AND MAKE A LOT MORE THAN PAID OUT.
@@garystanfield2274 you get a cigar my friend. You have hit the nail right square on its freakin head. THAT is exactly what happens. They love to pay out so they have excuses to raise their rates. They make a TON that way.
Read you owners manual, my Toyote Corolla key fob has a sleep mode you can place it in with a certain button combination (For mine it is hold down lock and double press unlock) so that it does not transmit. No need for foil or a pouch. This is useful for when you want to lock your key fob in the car like going swimming at the beach. and then use the removable mechanical key that is not damaged by water to unlock the door when you get back.
These button combinations are easily obtainable by the bad guys as well as the owners.
@@jameskoralewski1006 well ok but they'd have to break into the car and Know that your key was there, isn't the purpose to just stop the transmitting feature??
"Please be kind to one another"! This statement is what truely made your video "shine". Class! Great overall detailed information. Thank you! A+
Great video! I'm getting a Pouch now. 6/16/23 after two years looking and waiting, I found my 2023 Tacoma Limited. Black on black and I do NOT want it stolen. Thanks again from Kentucky.
Walking out in the morning and not finding your car is akin to being in a dream. Asking yourself where did I park it, I am sure that I drove it home last night and parked it right there. And then, you start to accept the fact that you have been robbed, then feeling like you have done something wrong, then dammed mad all in a flash of thoughts. Yep, its a strange set of feelings!
Thanks for the video, I am using a sheet of aluminum foil to wrap the fobs in till the pouches get here.
The FIRST thing I taught of when these "Keyless Ignition" cars and trucks came out was..."This will be the easiest vehicles to steal. It would be like leaving your keys in the car. As a former LEO I found that RFI (Radio Frequency Identifiers) could pick up your remote signal when you use it to LOCK YOUR DOORS. That was bad enough, now,,the WHOLE Vehicle can be taken over by the same thing. And, you can buy them off EBAY. This had to be the Dumbest thing vehicle makers EVER DID..>EVER DID
*"taught of" LEO?????*
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@@georgekatsinis5224 thought not taught, he was thinking it not teaching it, that's what the other guy was picking up on, not the LEO part
Actually its the smartest thing car manufacturers ever did. Now they sell more cars to replace the stolen ones.
@@Kanamit.I taught I taw a puddy cat
Thank you. Info much appreciated. Your demeanor, no cursing or ranting was also appreciated.👍
As the owner of a new car, you video was especially informative. It sounds like your heart is in the right place! God bless.
I’m not waiting to give this as a Christmas present to my wife and boys. As soon as I write this, logging onto Amazon and ordering them.
Update: I ordered them and they were $8.99. Thank you for sharing your story!
There are still good and honest people. Good man. God bless you.
I just realized how, after 2008, the world left me behind. I haven't been in a car with keyless entry, and don't own a vehicle past 1999.
You aint the only one 😎
Same here
Newest car I've owned is a 2007 and I'm just glad it's got an aux on it.
1995, 300k+ miles, still going strong! ;p
2001 is my newest vehicle. Simply because, well they're simpler. Better mechanically a lot of times. I own an auto repair shop and came from dealerships as a tech and management. So it's not a money thing. I like when I get in my vehicles and they start and run.
Great presentation! I have a Hyundai Santa Fe and received a recall addressing this issue. When I take it to the shop I’ll check if more protection is warranted. Your analysis and presentation was excellent. Thank you.
Good man - we need more people like you in the world
Damn honest Canadians...
Good on ya! You have my subscription for your sincere efforts to help your fellow human beings. Thanks!
same
Me too
what a true gentleman, thanks for sharing, from Australia
Australia and Canada... Best buddies. You know.... Americans can be really nice just like this...
Thank you for your time in making this video. More people should care, and the world would be a better place.
They should put bait cars out in the streets that explode when someone gets in it and tries to steal it.
Gary G: Good idea, and certainly effective! Except, then some attorney for the family of the "victim" would claim it was "Police entrapment"...for "tempting" them to steal the vehicle. And the bottom line: instead of the Judge saying: "Get the hell out of my courtroom, your dumb ass (insert relative name here) should not have tried to steal the vehicle. Next case!", they penalize the Police Dept. and the taxpayers end up rewarding the family for the criminal they "lost".
@@gcflower99 Yes, they'll say the thief was an aspiring doctor/lawyer/engineer/scientist with a "bright future"
@@gcflower99 If it's a Ford the criminal's family has no case.
Fords just blow up sometimes.
My 2020 4Runner was stolen last week. Toyota used the Connected Services GPS tracking device to find it for me. Unfortunately, I lost thousands of dollars of camping gear and mementos from my late-father. However, we recovered the vehicle by giving Connected Services the police report number. Found it same day across town. I'll be investing in a starter kill security system soon! Nice video!
Turn your keyfob off when you're not using the vehicle. Hold the lock button and press unlock two times. It will blink 4 times and then to make the key work again press the unlock button. You have to do this each tines. They can't unlock or start your 4 Runner.
@@CaliAmg what good does that do if they steal the code before you turn the fob off?
@@chadhaire1711 well.. True. I have a security gate to go through and a gate to my home. So if they happen to get the cars I own and manage to escape they will have to hope the tracking on the car doesn't work either. Your Toyota should have tracking on it.
@@CaliAmg all they have to do is park next to you at the mall or other parking lot..they will get the code when you leave.......BEFORE YOU TURN THE FOB OFF.....your truck will not be there when you come back......the tracker will be disconnected right away. The only way to stop them is a disconnect switch....
@@chadhaire1711 if they want it that bad they can have it. That's why I pay full coverage. It sucks we live in a world like this but the manufacturers need to fix the issue or back to keys. Even that doesn't work. I've had my Lincoln stolen and returned and they drilled the ignition to hot wire. I get what you're saying though.
You're the Greatest Canadian that ever lived 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦 I was glued to the screen watching your video. So well done. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Glad you got your truck back! And if young people channeled their talents and skills for the better good, we'd definitely have a better and safer, less expensive world. Thanks for the video!
He did Not get his truck back 🥺😥
HE DIDN'T GET HIS TRUCK BACK. MAYBE HIS INSURANCE COMPENSATED, BUT HE HAD TO BUY ANOTHER TRUCK ALTOGETHER.
Id still use a hidden kill switch.
Like for the thief right?
Starter kill switch works as well and you can still use it like usual.
@@JKHTX YES
@@JKHTX lmao, but I guess that works as well lol
@@JKHTX 50bmg
It's a shame you had to go through this. But this is what good people do when they have been wronged. Thank you for sharing your story, the research and then fix to this situation. Have a great day!!
Bless you for making this video!! So sorry about your truck but, at least you found out how to protect cars from now on. Glad you have more peace of mind and good luck in your adventures!
I'm here again two years later and the pouch works great! I would add though that there are two pockets. One of them blocks the signal and the other one doesn't. It is convenient to leave the fob in the one that doesn't block the signal, but I'm just realizing that I'm taking a big risk every time I go somewhere. However, I did buy a second pouch for my spare fob and leave it in the pocket that blocks the signal. The spare sits in the house. Thanks for the reminder to protect my regularly used fob.
You learn something new everyday. Not sure why this video popped up... better get me a couple of those 😳
Thank you so much! Looking at a new truck, with extras as I can afford after years of buying the basic models! I had no clue about fobs or this kind of theft. So sorry you were a victim, so grateful you shared. God bless you from the USA.
How about a hidden GPS and a shotgun to recover your stolen vehice?
Have you ever seen the "monkey-in-the-trunk" commercial? Your idea reminded me of it. It was hilarious!
I second that!
GPS don't work from the inside of a shipping containers
The thieves carry jammers nowadays. Whats needed is a crime fighting superhero such as the PUNISHER!
That would get you killed more than likey
Thank you kind Sir, we just saw your video and we shared it with family and friends May God Bless you for your kindness thank you 🙏
Thanks GPO,
My wife asked me yesterday about the possibility of our car being stolen.
I told her I thought it was not likely because of the fob ignition.
Your video popped up today to tell me otherwise.
Subscribed!
Sometimes our phones listening to everything we say can be helpful! 🤣
@@jameswatt4694 And sometimes, it seems all you have to do is just think about something and you'll get a video suggestion or ad on your phone .. which is a little scary.
Push buton start is a technology we don't really need.
I agree. The minor convenience it provides doesn't counteract all the other problems it can present.
I don't like the push button start. especially in cold climates and dead battery. when your jumping them.
Yes. I miss being able to easily go into run mode without starting the engine. You can go into accessory with push button start, but that isn't the same as run.
Now your a guy that seems to not be lazy , well said!
Really, how hard is it to turn the key?
Thank you for sharing. This is the first I’ve heard of this and totally shocked that car insurance companies are not educating their policy holders. 👍
Thank you so much for sharing your story. Sorry to hear what you had to go through. You are the epitome of turning a negative into a positive! This is so useful, I just purchased mine. Thank you Sir!
Maybe one day someone will invent a metal, mechanical key that unlocks a mechanical lock cylinder to enter or start the car.
LOL! Thanks John. I preferred that new invention myself, but wanted the off road capabilities of this truck so that fancy option was not available. Thanks for the morning smile. :))
@@GPOutdoors Thanks for the vidio, if you can turn the fob off,and turn it on with any button,i am the one that would butt dial it and have my car stolen . have a great day!
have a airbag installed in the seat? shoots them thru the roof,it would be funny on youtube if you cold get it on camera,probably get sued by the thief though
@@GPOutdoors nowadays it unironically is a fancy option
And put a thingy you can put that metal mechanical key in on more than one door.
Read all of the 1 and 2 star reviews and you'll get an idea of what your getting. I did some work for a woman who was a paid reviewer for Amazon, she said not to trust good reviews.
Great video. I'm in Canada too, and I just bought an expensive car and of course it has FOB keys. Been doing a lot of research online on how to protect it from thieves. Typical alarms are not effective, because it takes 10 seconds to grab a fuse or relay from under the hood, to kill the audible alarm. So far, I got a RF blocking pouch for the keys, and neutral gear access blocking plate. Next step is to install some kind of PIN code keypad ignition system that would block FOB cloning and engine start, unless a proper PIN is entered on the keypad. Because even if they cannot 'read' your FOB RF signal, all they have to do is break the window, get in, rip apart the dash under the glove compartment, start their diagnostics tablet, and it takes then less than a minute to program a new key. So, unless FOB cloning is disabled on your truck, it's not exactly safe. Thanks for the video.
That’s why got get an alarm where there’s a sensor you can make as sensitive as you want so when the vehicle feels the slightest movement the Alarm goes off.
Still wont cover your butt. Install a full power kill switch somewhere hidden in the cab. Make sure NOTHING has power at all.
Thank You for taking the time to make this video. Its people like you that make
You tube Great. !!! Very good info that I never would have thought of. I hope you didnt loose to much with your insurance company. I kinda wish you were my neighbor (lol)
I friggin hate those dang FOBs. Cheers from Coventry Connecticut USA !!
LOL! Me too but I could not get it with a normal key. Thanks and all the best!
Thanks for sharing this information. I really thought that no one will get into my truck without the FOB but after seeing this, it’s kind of giving me a second thought.
That pouch is a great idea. It not only keeps your truck from being stolen but it also makes it easier to find your keys in the morning. They also make aluminium wallets to keeps credit cards from being read w/ portable devices.
Thats one reason i drive a 20 year old dirty truck. Nobody messes with an old dirty truck.
Also, nobody messes with drivers of old dirty trucks. lol
You must be my long lost twin.
Smart
Maybe a Real Old man would 🤷♂️
Wow, thanks for sharing. The vehicle manufacturers should be including key fob protective pouches with the vehicle and educating new owners on the importance of using them.
A certain percentage of vehicles are stolen by a person with a tow truck.
Yes, it's rampant around here. Mostly F250s and other heavy-duty pickups.
I'll add that a guy with a tow truck or auto trailer can easily take a car and strip it down without much attention
We’ve tried those pouches over the years. Our experience has shown they become unreliable after half a year as they wear out in pockets and bags and need replacement. At home we use a central metallic box for all our fobs (very reliable) and when we’re out shopping we don’t use anything anymore tbh as they’re less chances in public of thieves swaying rods to pick up and boost signals. Recently we hid some apple airtags in our cars as well.
So do you lock your car when shopping?
Just take the battery out of the fob to disable it and not use it anymore, and instead just use the key by itself to open the door and start your vehicle the old fashion way. Your alarm should still arm, but test it to make sure. Carrying around a pouch for your key fob sounds like a pain in the butt.
@@LuckyCharms777Modern cars can't be started with a key!
@@faodail3913
So owners are stuck using the keyless “push to start” button? There isn’t an option to put the key in an ignition cylinder and turn it to start the car anymore? Do steering wheels still lock?
@@LuckyCharms777 The fob actually has a little pull out key thing that unlocks the door, if you have flat battery, but it only seems to let you into the car to replace the car battery. We can't see anywhere you can insert it to actually start the car, unlike older versions where you could. Don't know if there is a steering wheel lock, not one worked by the key anyway.
Here's a simple way. Add a kill switch. Add an on/off switch to the ground side of the fuel pump circuit. Without the ground, the car can't start. Switch and few feet of electrical wire doesn't cost much. This is the best way to prevent from thief.
You are right quick and easy to do. We use to place a micro switch inside a dead cigarette lighter.
That's exactly what I did except on mine I tied in to the brake peddle switch. The car wont go into gear unless the brake peddle is pressed. By splicing the wire with an on off switch hidden down under the dash. I can disable the micro switch that detects brake peddle depressed. I did it this way so I can still use remote start or leave the truck running without fear of someone jumping in and taking off or even trying to rob me and steal the truck at lets say the gas pump. They can start it but it wont go anywhere and I would just play dumb and say it was working before...
@@jamescole6846 genius!
That’s what I was thinking. They also make keyed switches so you could use that too. Where you place it is up to you. Personally I think a triple kill is better: fuel pump, brake pedal, and starter solenoid. Use the key switch to control 3 relays and you’re golden.
Also get a 2 way alarm so that if your vehicle is violated you get notified and can go outside with a 12 gauge.
@@miket5506 wudn you want to control each switch independently?
What if thief is brazen or doped up and knows you're not legal to shoot over property? (I know of one case where thief tried his luck and got shot in the back! No charges for owner!) Thief ignored and continued what he was doing.)
I've had the club for over 20 years now. It's not full proof from a cordless grinder, but it so far has worked for me.
Fobs should have an off switch for the proximity / constant transmitting feature
That's what I was thinking. Grate minds think alike.
I like the idea of auto shut-off, so you have to press it on and then it stays on for 10 minutes. That way there's no fumbling for a key in the dark or with your hands full of groceries but it eliminates this 'constantly transmitting' thing, which seems a huge and senseless flaw
Some manufacturers have sleeping key fobs that have a motion sensor and goes in to sleep mode when it hasn't moved for a set time
@@TinekaJasonPalmer ***great
car companies save 39 cents and we spend $11
So sorry to hear about what happened to you and glad you made out okay in the end. Thank you so much for taking the time to post your story and this security measure. God bless.
GP you are awesome! Thank you so much! You have a high level of credibility!
Great video, thank you. I just ordered two for my wife and myself.
Michael from Alberta
Wow, I had no clue it was that easy to steal a car these days! I'll definitely be more aware when I buy my next vehicle. Those pouches are a great idea.
As the few wonder how fast one can steal a vehicle today when all thieves need is a transponder as within seconds they have copied their own key fob when owners wonder if their vehicle was swiped right under their nose as near a port had those wonder if even police say those may never see their vehicle ever again when they now fight for a replacement vehicle still using traditional ignition switches.
would be a great is if your insurance company mentioned this when you insured the vehicle, got to be in their best interest.
When the police, insurance, and dealer all say "happens all the time, you'll never see the car again, nothing you can do" my first thought was this must be one of the ways the US sends gifts to foreign governments.
If the insurance company would look at their best interest, they would offer such a pouch as a give away when the contract is made. Handling a stolen car case costs the company more than just 12 canadian dollars...
Curious they never bring that up, only that your rates are going up?
I wonder if the insurance companies care - they simply load your premiums to balance their books.
Or his dealer, not so much in their best interest.
Been using foil for the credit cards for years. I don't know if that signal continues to be sent after the truck starts or not. But, being in close vicinity of another vehicle could conceivably allow that transferring process. Be consistent in your efforts to protect yourself. Therefore, don't throw the key and the fob down anytime without putting it in the case or the fotl. In the case of the older keyless entries, I keep a piece of foil hanging around that fob even when the key is in the ignition.
Still using mine, and still have my vehicle, thanks Gord
Back in the 80's I had a Z28. Had a old school dimmer wired in to the ignition (hidden under the carpet). If you didn't activate the dimmer switch the car would not start. Cheap insurance for a sought after vehicle at the time.
Amazing how much those old vehicles are worth now!
I run old cars here in GB I will try that
thank you,,
Hi .. Thanks for your thoughtful content. I have been using Farady Bags quite awhile. I test them right away and they work fine at first. If you retest after several months of use - not abuse mind you, you may find they are no longer that effective. This has been my experience and have had to replace them. I have written the company I purchased these from (100's of good reviews) and have not heard back yet. Just want to make your readers aware to periodically test. Thanks again for your post.
Morning Rick. That is good advice for everyone. Mine and my wife's still work after more than 2 years - test every couple of months as I remember. One thing my wife and I do is we don't have more than 1 other normal key on the ring so I think that may help since we don't have lots of pointy keys in there. Cheers and all the best!
You can buy quality material and make your own. Also you can just put them in a metal box or can if you don’t need to carry them around.
I recently bought a 2018 Jeep Wrangler. The "JL" version had just been released and it had the RF and push button features. I went with the previous "JK" model (which was the last year for that model, so -hopefully- all the bugs have been worked out). The one I got has no RF, no key fob, no alarms, manual crank windows, and manual door locks. Sometimes, there's just too much technology with these new vehicles.
Update. The criminals can get into your vehicle by picking the key lock if you have a key lock, or they can connect to the headlight, or they can break a window. Once inside the vehicle, they can plug their key programmer into the OBD port and program a blank key bob in less than two minutes. They start you vehicle and drive away with their newly programmed key fob.
You need the IGLA system to add a keypass code requirement to start the vehicle. The IGLA device also blocks key programmers. You also need to add an alarm such as the Compustar system. Factory alarms are easily bypassed. GPS tracking is also a good idea, or at least hidden AirTags with the AirTag speaker disabled to make it much more difficult for the criminals to find the AirTags. Install more than one AirTag.
After you start the vehicle, can you put the key fob back in the faraday pouch right away, while driving the vehicle? Or, do you need to leave the key fob outside the faraday pouch continuously while the vehicle is running?
The faraday pouch reduces your exposure to auto theft, but it doesn’t eliminate it because you have to expose the key fob to open the door and start the vehicle for a reduced time period.
To reduce the risk of auto theft lower, I think some type of aftermarket kill switch might be a good idea.
The auto manufacturers know about this vulnerability to auto theft, and do not attempt to redesign the system. The auto manufacturers should be sued with a class action lawsuit and/or sued by the insurance companies.
Thank you so much for this information !!!
Vote for political candidates who will make the penalty for car theft severe enough to stop it. California Democrats have mostly decriminalized vehicle theft and scold victims for not having automobile theft insurance as cheerfully chirp no one gets hurt that way!
The auto theft taps into the data line that runs to the headlights. They have a device that looks like a USB speaker, but is really a auto theft tool. That supposedly could give them cover from the police if possessing burglary tools is a crime.
The thefts could break the rear windows, which I’ve heard are not covered by the factory alarms. If there is a neutral strap, they that could put the car into neutral and push the vehicle away for a distance with another vehicle.
Auto thefts also use a key fob retransmission device. It picks up the key fob signal that’s transmitted continuously from the key fob inside your house to the vehicle on your driveway, or nearby where the key fob is located. The vehicle then can be unlocked and started, just like the key fob could be used if the criminal had the key fob. The vehicle allows cage criminal to drive away, even though there’s no key fob in the vehicle.
The auto thieves also that key fob programmers. They remove your fob from the vehicle’s configuration and program a blank key fob for your vehicle. The auto thieves are greatly assisted by the poor security of the key fob passive entry push button start system. But the auto manufacturers do not care if your vehicle is stolen, because that translates to more auto sales for the vehicle manufacturers.
The solution to the auto theft problem is the IGLA PIN code system. The IGLA PIN code system requires you to press a sequence of buttons on your steering wheel and other buttons in your vehicle, to be able to start the vehicle. Think of it like a combination lock to start the vehicle. If the criminal doesn’t know the combination needs to be pressed, or doesn’t know the combination, the vehicle cannot be started. The IGLA PIN code device also blocks the key fob programmers from functioning.
In addition to the IGLA PIN code system, a Compustar Drone alarm system is installed. The alarm system makes a lot of noise and draws attention to the criminal, and discourages the active crime scene from continuing. The alarm system also alerts the owner’s cellphone that the criminal is breaking into the vehicle. The criminal wants an easy target, and does not want to be potentially shot and killed by the vehicle’s owner.
The downside for the protection is the cost. The IGLA PIN code system costs $1,200 for installation. The IGLA PIN code system, plus the Compustar Drone alarm system installation costs about $2,000. Plus about $200 a year to subscribe to the alarm system notification service.
The kill switches can be circumvented by auto thieves, if they are talented enough in their criminal occupation. The IGLA PIN code and Compustar Drone alarm system is the best way to prevent the vehicle theft. Supposedly, there are about 600,000 installed IGLA PIN code systems installed, and none of those vehicles have been stolen.
Never use the fob.. take the batteries out and forget about it.. use the admin key the old school way.. lock and unlock physically, if you want extra security if you're not feeling safe at night then disconnect the battery before you go in to the house, or better yet even if it is annoying take it out completely and store it in the house.. put a gps tracker hidden somewhere inside the car, the ones with a sim card in it, when you call the number it doesn't ring or make any noise and it gives you the exact location of your car and when it answers it enables audio so you can listen to what's going on around your vehicle.. ✌️
We found it much easier to just remove the OBD port fuse. Very easy to put back in when needed, e.g., dealership. We use faraday pouches for our fobs and tin foiled all our spare fobs. We put tiles in all our cars. Ford and Jeep have apps to track our vehicles.
I'm sorry you had to go through all of that hassle. Thank you for sharing. This will help a lot of people.
Great video. One other thing worth knowing is that on most fobs there is a button sequence that turns off transmission and accomplishes the same thing. For Toyota you hold the lock button and press unlock twice (while holding lock). The fob will no longer transmit until you press another button on the fob.
so you either use the spare keys to unlock the car and disable the alarm by doing so or you dont lock the door coz you have to disable the fob everytime you lock/unlock using the remote buttons.
@@TomatoTomato911 No, I lock the car up and then disable the fob (takes no time - hold the lock button and press unlock twice). Now the car is locked and the fob is inactive. When I am ready to drive again I just press the unlock button and the fob is active again. Takes no time. You can do it a dozen times a day if you want it’s easy.
@@pringlw takes 2 hands so its cumbersome especially if you have shopping bags. it also takes an extra step all the time compared to oldskool buttoned remotes.
@@TomatoTomato911 Lol it is not hard to do I have the same Truck and do the same. takes 2 seconds.
I don't have the push button start setup in my car, but a simple thing like an on off button on those type remotes would prevent a huge amount of theft apparently. I know that kind of defeats the whole 'hands-free' thing, but if it prevents your car from being stolen, its worth that little hassle of flipping the switch on the remote.
I like to think this man is a typical example of our neighbors to the north. Feels good knowing we have guys like this in the world.
Thanks very kindly for your comment. Wish you all the best!
Indeed it is!
There are fewer and fewer neighbours like this.
Trudeau has imported what he calls the "New Canadians" and let me tell you, these "new" Canadians are absolutely nothing like the old Canadians.
They are more Chinese, Indian and Muslim... whose values are nothing like Canadian values.
Well done. Thanks. It is distressing to have a car stolen; I had a new Jeep CJ5 stolen in 1974; it was located in a swamp one day BEFORE it would have been declared a total loss. The insurance company refused to do so and refused to authorize procedures recommended by the dealer. I have been told NOT to use the fob to lock my car when in a parking lot but to manually depress the lock button as I exit because thieves sit in their cars with scanners. My truck is an 07 so the fob doesn't continuously broadcast a signal. Given this problem, I'm surprised lawyers haven't filed class action lawsuits against auto manufacturers for negligence.
….and not once did I hear an “eh?” from him. lol. Kudos to this guy!
On my old Pontiac I used to take the coil wire out at night and take itside with me. Not even hot wiring can start it then.
Thanks so much for the tip. These car manufacturers should provide more security features on the vehicles they sell.
More cars stolen...more cars sold...
Thank you for the video, I recently went through the same thing. I was watching your video and went "yep" more times than I care to count! I recently purchased a faraday pouch from Crappy Tire and it works. I find that I rush my passengers out of my car now though, "hurry before someone steals my signal!" That's something being bandied around the house these days. The fob doesn't do anything in the pouch though. I wish I had seen your video 6 months ago! Gone in 60 seconds is a myth, it's gone in 10 minutes between midnight and 6am. A guy walks up right up to your car, dressed all in black, carrying a backpack. Fiddles around for 10 minutes and drives away. I had 2 clear cameras on my car and he never looked at any of them once. If I had known for $20-30 I could have saved myself that agony, I would have bought a pouch months ago. I also thought the car was looking for the fob and not the other way round.
What an excellent video. Well done, and I'm sure you have saved many people from having their vehicles stolen.