On the topic of PVP, hope you guys know that there's no need to put a good defense team. You don't gain/lose anything from losing in defense and if everyone has a one doll defense team. PVP will be so much more easier for everyone.
Gacha economy is looking good so far. I don’t imagine everyone will get every character, but realistically can expect to get almost every other character with some decent luck
Well, it wouldn't be a "gacha" game if everyone could get everyone. You need to choose, or be lucky. That's why it's a gacha game. But it's nice that the chance to get everyone is quite high (actually, very, because reruns are frequent).
11:00 just a note you'd be missing out on shop currencies if you only do everything last day because you get 3 tickets a day you can use on hard and they cap at 6 so at least try and auto a hard stage every 2 days
Indeed, and it's worth mentionning that every hard stage give the same amount of event currency once repeated. So just clearing the first one so that you can spend your entries every two days minimum until you can clear the rest is enough.
Pull wise, it's similar to other normal gacha game (so not generous but not the worst I've seen) but if global keep 2 new banner every month it's going to be rough for some (like now Suomi and Ulrid simultaneous gacha banner)
@cookingrabbitty the fact that global choose to release 2 banner (maybe 3 with rerun) will be worse for newer player especially if there's multiple good dolls there
@@Skolladrum suomi and ulrid are easy choice. one carry you to mid game the other to the end of service game or until mica team introduced other busted support
@@KABLAMMATS yes easy for now but what if they released like centaraussi and macchiato together for example? Since we know we won't follow CN banner (as there Suomi and Ulrid definitely is not the first banner) we can't know how they'll release it.
@@Skolladrum you wont have the resources to build a lot of characters quickly anyway right? So may as well pull for one and wait for rerun for the other
won't be every month lol, they'll weave in perma/rerun banners. CN only getting 15 limited units in 12 months so theres only a few months (3 months) with 2 limiteds and we already got the first month of dual new limited with suomi and ullrid.
@@tomeetipee Genshin been doing double banner for years yet some character (Shenhe, Eula etc) haven't reruns in ages so the double banner doesn't actually mean higher frequency for all character
Thank you for doing all the maths for us ! Sounds like a pretty accurate estimation even though some stuff might vary depending on events etc indeed. Overall, it seems like a decent income, even if we consider the stingy rates we should indeed be able to get one copy of every other character. If we keep getting double banners though it'll be 1 copy out of 4 banners, which would be pretty bad compared to most f2p gacha games experience out there.
If my memory serve me right, the CEO already say that Global will always lack behind of the CN server, and since there are only 15 char within 1 year in CN, our situation shouldn't be much worse Plus there bound to be some characters you will skip here and there, so overall should be fine
@@leesasuki Really ? Interesting. If he said that I guess we won't always get double banners, cause otherwise we would definitely catch up to CN fairly quick.
each new supply mission gives 50 gems as you level up, this should add by a lot with a new account, i use all my refreshs as f2p to get as far as possible in account level to gets thoses free 50 gems, got my suomi to v1 im pretty chill. GL to every new commander.
After grinding a lot i got Suomi (once) from 130 and Peritya (twice); once from start and second time from...idk. 50/50 scamed me twice: Heart Seeker and Golden Melody. Second time actually not a scam but gun drop from standart banner. I think two characters is not insanely generous, especially at launch. I dont talk about Vepley because she is free and not from actual gacha. Also dont forget about 5 star weapon that significantly increase character potential.
Eventially the shop will get pulls you can buy from the currency you getting pulling. Right now it only has the SSR weapons but for 900 you can get 30 pulls.
Honestly it seems more on the generous side than other gachas but being guaranteed to hit pity (its 3 off, it might as well be gauranteed) is pretty good. Sure you have to win 50/50s but a new elite doll is a new elite doll.
So if one 10 pull is around 1,500 crystals. you can get 5k maybe 4k in a month that's 40 pulls-50 pulls. However the banners only last 2 weeks so you'd cut it in half and that's around 20-30 pulls. still very good but keep that in mind when grinding it out.
Could you do a video on which items in the shop are the best value for money?? It seems like they have lots of good options for the money if you wanted to spend vs other games.
Guitar, can you confirm one thing, in the shop, you can buy skin for suomi weapon, colorful ones, why does it have a timer? does it mean, the skin will disappear after certain time after we buy it? or is it a limited time item? im a little confused
The new player income seems pretty good. I unfortunately lost the 50/50 and had to go to about 70 pulls both times, then she finally came and at the end of the multi Mosin Nagant came as well lol, so got my guaranteed back. We still have 2 more weeks so im sure even if you had bad luck you should have plenty left over for next banner
If we have two new units every patch it just won’t be enough, they would have to increase the amount at least double for it to be fair which is why I am already disliking the direction the game is taking cause essentially we would get the same amount of pulls as CN but double the banners which is unfair to ftp
CN also have double banners from the start. and for f2p players, u should expect to not getting all characters. and there's only 1 must pull character anyway (klukai). stop throwing tantrum
Hai GR..You missing the trial of characters cube and in the hard mode event part 1 and part 2 campaign if I not mistaken also can get the cube..That's the only I can thinking where you miss it..I Love this games so much and I already saved 16K Cubes..wkwkwkw.. (Only buy the monthly + clear the events + story and what you just told so far)
Hi GR, i think you forgot the daily log in tickets? im not sure if we get those per patch or its just in the honeymoon phase. but nevertheless great vid
We can't get tokens on gfl2? Like i know that you can get it for free on gfl1 it's painfully slow but you can in gfl2 you can't it's mean that you can het outfit without spending money
I think someone has done the math but long story short. If you buy the credits at a discount for the first time purchases then use credits to buy outfits. If you already cleaned up shop and have no credits for outfits then just use cash instead.
Got Ullrid for 10 Suomi 10 Ullrids weapon 60 Lost 50/50 got nagant on 62 now im guarantee with 30 pity in limited banner waiting for new character dried up rn
A little too optimistic with this lol To get all this you need some high lvl account with beefy units. So definitely on the first month you wont be getting all this. But its still pretty decent.
You guys remember when gacha games didn't have pity? Yeah so I think it's actually better that most gachas now are doing this pity system where your guaranteed after a certain number of pulls
@@ELGG1894it's not worth it just stick to V1 suomi and start saving for Klukai we don't know when her banner will drop but apparently she will be busted for every content
cant shit without saying Hoyo, from my experience playing HSR and ZZZ F2P gives just about the same as someone who buy pass and monthly I get roughly 12k to 15k gems, not included the tickets you get from pass and monthly and version update tickets and also, I'm a player who doesn't get all chest. From overall I get roughly 120+pulls per patch This game probably gives about the same but lower pity.
I hate gacha obscurity with currency to ticket ratios. From your video it will takes months to gather up enough pity and if they continue the double banner this will be quite painful for global. I think Mica are making a mistake by following hoyo rates especially considering the first GFL gacha. This game is hardly "f2p friendly" people keep throwing around how f2p their gacha is but the rates are abysmal and they also follow the 50/50 pity which just sucks.
it is ironic that this statement came from someone who played BA, which has the same battle mechanics with GFL2. this is why even in 13 years, you only have 16 subs, with 36 videos uploaded. LOL
On the topic of PVP, hope you guys know that there's no need to put a good defense team. You don't gain/lose anything from losing in defense and if everyone has a one doll defense team. PVP will be so much more easier for everyone.
Yea, i changed this day after watching rexlent
CN player all of them give low level to get everyone max point. And yes i also did too
I'm doing my part
Im doing my part
I'm doing my part
Gacha economy is looking good so far. I don’t imagine everyone will get every character, but realistically can expect to get almost every other character with some decent luck
Well, it wouldn't be a "gacha" game if everyone could get everyone. You need to choose, or be lucky. That's why it's a gacha game. But it's nice that the chance to get everyone is quite high (actually, very, because reruns are frequent).
11:00 just a note you'd be missing out on shop currencies if you only do everything last day because you get 3 tickets a day you can use on hard and they cap at 6 so at least try and auto a hard stage every 2 days
Indeed, and it's worth mentionning that every hard stage give the same amount of event currency once repeated. So just clearing the first one so that you can spend your entries every two days minimum until you can clear the rest is enough.
There are a lot of weekly content, hopefully i can remember to do them all
Pull wise, it's similar to other normal gacha game (so not generous but not the worst I've seen) but if global keep 2 new banner every month it's going to be rough for some (like now Suomi and Ulrid simultaneous gacha banner)
Gonna be rough but same for everyone, most will select on banner and skip others. From CN player rerun is come often so I think no bad.
@cookingrabbitty the fact that global choose to release 2 banner (maybe 3 with rerun) will be worse for newer player especially if there's multiple good dolls there
@@Skolladrum suomi and ulrid are easy choice. one carry you to mid game the other to the end of service game or until mica team introduced other busted support
@@KABLAMMATS yes easy for now but what if they released like centaraussi and macchiato together for example? Since we know we won't follow CN banner (as there Suomi and Ulrid definitely is not the first banner) we can't know how they'll release it.
@@Skolladrum you wont have the resources to build a lot of characters quickly anyway right? So may as well pull for one and wait for rerun for the other
What's going to destroy F2Ps is the rate of the banner, 10k gems per month is good when you only have 1 new unit to roll for but we'll have 2
won't be every month lol, they'll weave in perma/rerun banners. CN only getting 15 limited units in 12 months so theres only a few months (3 months) with 2 limiteds and we already got the first month of dual new limited with suomi and ullrid.
The Ulrid and Sumoi banner was a launch exception from what i hear
If double banners means more frequent reruns thats good
@@tomeetipee Genshin been doing double banner for years yet some character (Shenhe, Eula etc) haven't reruns in ages so the double banner doesn't actually mean higher frequency for all character
@@overlordshiina genshin is 4 yrs old. I agree they have horrible decision making with their banner system and a game that old needs a rework.
Thank you for doing all the maths for us ! Sounds like a pretty accurate estimation even though some stuff might vary depending on events etc indeed. Overall, it seems like a decent income, even if we consider the stingy rates we should indeed be able to get one copy of every other character. If we keep getting double banners though it'll be 1 copy out of 4 banners, which would be pretty bad compared to most f2p gacha games experience out there.
If my memory serve me right, the CEO already say that Global will always lack behind of the CN server, and since there are only 15 char within 1 year in CN, our situation shouldn't be much worse
Plus there bound to be some characters you will skip here and there, so overall should be fine
@@leesasuki Really ? Interesting. If he said that I guess we won't always get double banners, cause otherwise we would definitely catch up to CN fairly quick.
I'm loving the game until now!! very fun! 😍
SAMEEEEEEEE ❤
adding on event, we get 3 tickets to do hard mode, just auto any chapter once you done evrything to get the currency
Most gachas I played grant 40-50 pulls per month (including events), also it depends on each pity system. The pull currency feels just about right.
each new supply mission gives 50 gems as you level up, this should add by a lot with a new account, i use all my refreshs as f2p to get as far as possible in account level to gets thoses free 50 gems, got my suomi to v1 im pretty chill. GL to every new commander.
After grinding a lot i got Suomi (once) from 130 and Peritya (twice); once from start and second time from...idk. 50/50 scamed me twice: Heart Seeker and Golden Melody. Second time actually not a scam but gun drop from standart banner. I think two characters is not insanely generous, especially at launch. I dont talk about Vepley because she is free and not from actual gacha. Also dont forget about 5 star weapon that significantly increase character potential.
damn, with that economy i can only expect to get around 3 characters, and i already know which ones im going to get.
Nice video thanks for the breakdown.
I dont think its even possible for someone to be max PvP rank, tier 8 weekly boss or Wave 7-5 PV5 at this point😂😂
Eventially the shop will get pulls you can buy from the currency you getting pulling. Right now it only has the SSR weapons but for 900 you can get 30 pulls.
You forgot about event hardmode, which i'm pretty sure is another 2x5x50=500 colapse pieces per event.
I do have Suomi and Tololo as a ftp player plus having 11000+ crystals makes me a lucky guy. Currently clearing phase 6 on the campaign.
Honestly it seems more on the generous side than other gachas but being guaranteed to hit pity (its 3 off, it might as well be gauranteed) is pretty good. Sure you have to win 50/50s but a new elite doll is a new elite doll.
Peak value are so tidious and long as hell
Once they add the tickets to exchange with gacha points it will be a lot easier to reach the pity, not sure when, but they should add it
Its good to knowing to us ( F2P) how much get in there a month.thx to videos bro❤
Me : holding the gems at 28K + 180 standard tix + 31 rate up tix
I've been pulling nonstop to try and get qj
Damn that's alot, do you even have any characters lol?
So if one 10 pull is around 1,500 crystals. you can get 5k maybe 4k in a month that's 40 pulls-50 pulls. However the banners only last 2 weeks so you'd cut it in half and that's around 20-30 pulls. still very good but keep that in mind when grinding it out.
Finally! the content I need
I can see myself playing this game for a long time along with Star Rail
Could you do a video on which items in the shop are the best value for money?? It seems like they have lots of good options for the money if you wanted to spend vs other games.
it depends on how active a player is in the game and also how RNG will played out on a player's account thats answer ur question
I dont get to play on the defense team for pvp because when i already save the defense team its just kinda dissapear
You should have highlighted that if you get the battle pass at lvl 30 you get a free SSR weapon at least this month you do!
Thx for the guide!
i think if you don't pull anything and saved it all you can get at least 300 pulls after finishing everthing at least. That's on;y for new players tho
Guitar, can you confirm one thing,
in the shop, you can buy skin for suomi weapon, colorful ones, why does it have a timer?
does it mean, the skin will disappear after certain time after we buy it? or is it a limited time item? im a little confused
He's not gonna answer
But it's a limited item on ship
No need to worry about it disappearing if u buy it
Can you do a video on putting weak chars on multiplayer so everyone can reach the highest multiplayer rank.
Haven’t pulled a single time on the limited banner. I’m afraid to lose my 50/50 on Suomi’s banner because I really like the game so far 😂
The new player income seems pretty good. I unfortunately lost the 50/50 and had to go to about 70 pulls both times, then she finally came and at the end of the multi Mosin Nagant came as well lol, so got my guaranteed back. We still have 2 more weeks so im sure even if you had bad luck you should have plenty left over for next banner
If we have two new units every patch it just won’t be enough, they would have to increase the amount at least double for it to be fair which is why I am already disliking the direction the game is taking cause essentially we would get the same amount of pulls as CN but double the banners which is unfair to ftp
So stop playing
CN also have double banners from the start. and for f2p players, u should expect to not getting all characters.
and there's only 1 must pull character anyway (klukai). stop throwing tantrum
Can you do a video guide on bp pass weapon? Which one is good for which character
OOOOOOHFFFFFF, I love how your swimsuit SUOMI riding the DUCKY QUACKKKKKKKKKK 🦆
👀🫨😏🥵
Hai GR..You missing the trial of characters cube and in the hard mode event part 1 and part 2 campaign if I not mistaken also can get the cube..That's the only I can thinking where you miss it..I Love this games so much and I already saved 16K Cubes..wkwkwkw.. (Only buy the monthly + clear the events + story and what you just told so far)
I’m glad about this, I got V1 Suomi in 50 pulls so I’m hoping to see the next meta waifu
In the battle pass or patrol the supply package( the purple one) what should I get as a new started account
Hi GR, i think you forgot the daily log in tickets? im not sure if we get those per patch or its just in the honeymoon phase. but nevertheless great vid
Did you know you can recycle your weapons and you can get the currency for the trading post- growth stack just tried it today
We can't get tokens on gfl2? Like i know that you can get it for free on gfl1 it's painfully slow but you can in gfl2 you can't it's mean that you can het outfit without spending money
This is all considering you have the level to reach these points.
I think it rough since they aren't giving enough for pity each month from hard grinding everything
Im up to 17k already, saving fir Klukai..i think that's her name
I just downloaded the game and dont intend on spending money on it, would it be worth playing or is it heavily p2w
if they will keep adding 2 limited banners a month - its gonna be a problem for sure
Can you pleaes make a video on costume gacha? what packs to purchase or just purchase the $20 costume? Thank you GR
I think someone has done the math but long story short. If you buy the credits at a discount for the first time purchases then use credits to buy outfits. If you already cleaned up shop and have no credits for outfits then just use cash instead.
Got Ullrid for 10 Suomi 10 Ullrids weapon 60 Lost 50/50 got nagant on 62 now im guarantee with 30 pity in limited banner waiting for new character dried up rn
wait you can lost 50/50 on weapon banner? i thought its guaranteed
@@KABLAMMATSSame what
Have anHave anyone clear the Peak Value Assesment?
As f2p I had enough farming to (sadly) lose 50/50, and still being able to farm again to secure her, I got totally dried but yeah
As f2p, I counted 218(62 saved up) pulls so far for limited I was able to get
I hope they remain f2p friendly.
Got everyone except Mosin.
Lost my 50/50s so I only have Suomi V1+Weapon, I probably have to skip Ullrid :(
which battlepass weapon?
A little too optimistic with this lol To get all this you need some high lvl account with beefy units. So definitely on the first month you wont be getting all this. But its still pretty decent.
Only enough for a hard pity not good afterI losing 2 5050 on soumi
0:49 it is 12 pulls.
"boo, why this game follow hoyo gacha system"
This game literally gave out 2X pulls each patch compared to hoyo. That sums it up
It seems that Hoyo thing has become a standard for CN devs
You guys remember when gacha games didn't have pity? Yeah so I think it's actually better that most gachas now are doing this pity system where your guaranteed after a certain number of pulls
What's an F2P?
-forced 2 pay- free 2 play
Free-to-play, not spending any money
Suomi V2 + Weapon, Ullrid + Weapon im saving now for next dual banner :D
Lucky... It took a pity for Suomi V1 and a pity for Ullrid V1 😩 I've got nothing left because I keep compulsively summoning for Suomi's dupe
@@ELGG1894it's not worth it just stick to V1 suomi and start saving for Klukai we don't know when her banner will drop but apparently she will be busted for every content
I'm guessing you arent F2P if you have enough for both
@@dee6561 dolphin yea
If he is his luck is about to run out 😆
Hard mode is really hard xD
I’m 151 pulls saved since I lucked out with Suomi on the 10th pull so I’m hoping the next klukay
Same i got soumi in first 10 pulls so i hope i can win klukay if she is the next 5s unit banner
Do ur acct a favor and get her v1
@@tidf-wh1zg What does v1 mean
By doing all this eventually people will collapse. 😂😂😂
80 pulls/ month but there are double limited banners so it's not f2p friendly that much as people think
50/50 too (also some char need dupe to get strong)
What game I consider generous gacha game is Azur lane
We're not sure that it's double banners on release for each patch tho? Just wait and see
Cha-Ching ~ 💸
I keep losing 50/50 they keep giving me qiongiju got her 3 times im so mad
If you lose once on the 50/50 rate up banner the next is guaranteed, the hell you talking about. The standard banner is not 50/50.
@ nah
better than hoyo gacha. And that enough for me.
cant shit without saying Hoyo, from my experience playing HSR and ZZZ F2P gives just about the same
as someone who buy pass and monthly I get roughly 12k to 15k gems, not included the tickets you get from pass and monthly
and version update tickets and also, I'm a player who doesn't get all chest. From overall I get roughly 120+pulls per patch
This game probably gives about the same but lower pity.
how much does hoyo give monthly? assuming their game give the same across the board
zzz is generous
I have 130 pulls saved and was able to get Soumi in 20 pulls. Now saving, love that the game is f2p friendly
40 pulls got Soumi V1 and 20 pulls got me her weapon and got QJ in beginner banner. Running with QJ, Soumi, Ksenia and Groza atm
Just pulle 2 Suomi SSR weapon in my first 10 pull after getting her P2 😁
It's quite generous, btw you get 2700 collapse crystal per month not 2400
I hate gacha obscurity with currency to ticket ratios. From your video it will takes months to gather up enough pity and if they continue the double banner this will be quite painful for global.
I think Mica are making a mistake by following hoyo rates especially considering the first GFL gacha.
This game is hardly "f2p friendly" people keep throwing around how f2p their gacha is but the rates are abysmal and they also follow the 50/50 pity which just sucks.
V1 suomi v1 tolo v1 qio and their weps and already 100 pulls ready again lole
If only the gameplay was not this boring .. Turn based ~ 🤮🤮🤮
Go play genshit midpact then
Then don't play it, you're not gonna enjoy it on the longrun
Brain ouchie?
it is ironic that this statement came from someone who played BA, which has the same battle mechanics with GFL2.
this is why even in 13 years, you only have 16 subs, with 36 videos uploaded. LOL
@mesprith Imagine saying its the same battle mechanics .. LMAO !!! Cringe AF, go back to grade school 🤣🤣🤣
dead game
Your brain is dead
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