Don't forget the movie where the villain caused tremendous harm and destruction, got everything he wanted and suffered no consequences: Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
I disagree about Usual Suspects. Keyser Soze initiates the whole plot to kill the one man who can identify him. At the end, unbeknownst to him, every law enforcement agency on the planet will have his mugshot, fingerprints, and a recording of his voice. And don't forget that the statements made by the man who dies of his burns in the hospital after describing Soze to the authorities will be admissible in court under the dying-declaration exception to the hearsay rule. Soze hasn't been caught _yet_ at the end of the film, but he is much worse off at the end than at the beginning.
@@noname-xx5uj Anti-hero or villain he is still evil. He escaped custody and will continue to kill. When we last see him, he is planning on murdering his old psychiatrist (I believe) and eating him. He isn't going to stop there so in essence he won.
I never agreed with the ending for Drag Me To Hell. That woman was only doing her job. Since the witch was so all powerful, how come she could conjure up some money or make the damn bill just disappear or curse everyone that worked for the evil company?
@@adamwallace985 She didn't deserve to die. And there are many who have killed killed and tortured animals who getting the punishment she got. It's just sad all around.
So the bad guys are the two survivors? Because the Eldritch Gods actually were going to destroy the world. So all the guys downstairs controlling the supernatural creatures actually lost.
@@Ceares the Eldritch gods are definitely evil. They are demanding human sacrifices. And the people getting entertainment from the human sacrifices are also evil. And the people whose job it is to release the supernatural creatures are also evil because they are engaging in human sacrifices. Doesn't matter what your reason for doing evil is. You're still evil.
@@thedevilsrockstxr2309 okay and if it was our world and there were some monsters and we forced them to kill each other for our entertainment we'd also be evil
@@maxlee8780 that's kind of the point though... arguably there were no good guys in this movie and everyone got what was coming for them; humanity included.
ok the devil is a bad guy but didn't Mickeys character kill the other guy to get out of his deal with the devil making him evil and the devil just did his job.
@@mdjouster Yes, he was seeking the person who made a deal. If the devils job is to punish the wicked. Doesn't that make him a _good guy?_ That is certainly his position in Angel Heart.
I would like to give an honourable mention to Arlington Road. It may not have made the list but it’s still a worthy contender for a part 2 if a second list is done.
That is one of the most depressing movie endings ever. I remember seeing it with my dad in the theater and after it was over we looked at each other like, "WTF did we just watch?"
Not going to lie, after i watched Hereditary i remarked to myself in all my years of watching a vast number of movies, i dont think i can remember ever feeling more sorry for a character than i did for Peter. Just wow.
@@alejandroalamaparreno3000 I mean they killed an innocent couple because they wanted to leave, peeled the face and murdered a guy cause he peed on a tree, took a sledgehammer to the back of another guy just because and finally drugged and burned a guy alive in a dead bear suit because they drugged him and forced him to have sex with one of their own. And finally manipulated the main character throughout the entire movie. Yes the cult was evil.
Upgrade it's a nice example, especially because it's a action movie. Villains wins in terror movies are pretty common, but in a action movie is something more rare.
Other examples: 1) Silence of the Lambs - Hannibal Lecter gets away and goes back on a killing spree. 2) Texas Chainsaw Massacre - While the final girl gets away she is horribly traumatized and never actually defeats the people who abused her. 3) Halloween Kills - Michael gets away after defeating a mobs and killing Laurie's daughter. 4) Batman V Superman - Lex Luthor won. Sure he get's sent to prison but he accomplished his goal in killing Superman. 5) Wolf Creek - Serial killer Mick Taylor just simply wins. He kills his victims and walks away in the sunlight a free man. 6) Primal Fear - Edward Norton's character gets away with murder. 7) The Woman in Black - The ghost ends up getting her intended victim. 8) Unbreakable - Another film where a person does go to prison but achieves their main goal regardless. 9) Funny Games - A film where the two villains do everything they want and then just head off to find more victims. 10) Fallen - A demonic possession film where the villain manages to escape while the hero dies for nothing.
The thing with DMTH is that, according to Sam Raimi, Christine was intended to be the hidden bad guy all along. The idea was to initially portray her as sweet and sympathetic during the time when her life was going great. Even when Christine denied the extension to Mrs. Ganush, Raimi went out of his way to make Christine look perfectly in the right and make Mrs. Ganush look crazy and unpleasant in comparison, in order to make the audience take Christine's side as much as possible. But in reality, "when push comes to shove and [Christine] has to get this job promotion, she sins with greed and forces this old lady out of her home hiding behind the rules of the bank.". And afterwards, Christine's sins grow worse and worse as things get even harder for her; in Raimi's exact words, "she goes against her own values, lies, asks people to risk their lives, tries to blame her boss when confronted by the demon, and selfishly tries to give the curse away to save her self", all the while having "a positive charm about her which helps the audience stay with her despite all the horrible things she does". The intended message was that, by the end of the film, everyone in the audience is a sinner as well for siding with Christine throughout all of her despicable actions, and that the fate that awaited Christine in the end could easily await each and every one of us as well. In short, to quote Raimi once again, "[Christine] was a good person on the outside but when you see what she’s willing to do, she’s just not a good person at all. She deserves what she gets. Although, maybe she’s just a little overpunished for her sins." SOURCE: www.dreadcentral.com/news/11797/sam-raimi-talks-drag-me-to-hell/
Thank you kindly internet stranger! I was starting to think that I might be misremembering the movie, because so many people thought she was a little darling who just happened to get cursed out-of-the-blue. Her tipping point for going against any morals she may have had is probably the scariest part of the film. Also, her excuse of “just doing her job” (the catalyst for her demise) is a pretty good hint that she’s not a good person, since there’s a well-known historical event in which some very horrendous people did some very atrocious things using a very similar excuse. The true nature of her character was always made painfully obvious, as long as one could look past her adorable facade. Fun(?) fact: killing animals is a disturbingly common practice run before someone decides to kill a person. One wonders how many other “villain tropes” would be evident upon rewatching the movie.
@@brentage5000 The novella just stops before there's any resolution, and the movie stops with the transcosmic invasion ending because the rift seals itself up. So yeah. There exist other Mist media but I'm not gonna watch 'em or read 'em, it was a juvenile subpar King effort at its origin.
I saw the title of this video and couldn't help but to think about 'The Dark Knight'. Sure, Batman did capture Joker, but he made himself out to be a villain in the eyes of Gotham by taking out Harvey. The thing is that when the Joker convinced Harvey to go down a dark path, things were going to go downhill for Gotham. When Joker mentioned to Batman that he pushed Harvey down that path, it became clear that Batman needed to make a choice. If he had let Harvey go, people would know that Harvey had become a terrible person, and all of the corrupt government officials would've been let go due to a technicality. By killing off Harvey, Batman prevented that, but he ended up making himself out as a villain. It may have been the lesser of the two evils, but still, evil won in the end of that movie.
The daughter in Hereditary is called Charlie, not Milly. Milly Shapiro is the actress's name. Jack Pooley messed it up here for Ellie, and it's not her fault.
Do the pod people count as evil? They're just doing what alien hive-minded parasites do, without malice. Also, it depends on which version you watch. The 1956 original had a more hopeful ending. I don't think a cause for the birds aggression is mentioned. Maybe they just got tired of their brethren being made into nuggets!
There are several versions of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. There was a book, where the humans won. There was a black & white movie where the humans won (though the main girl is lost). And then, all other versions where the humans lose. But it's weird to see someone refer to a "horror classic" and commence talking like they don't actually know the classic, just the remake.
He could have made it so that the people who randomly disappeared had never existed. That would completely change everything and prevent all of the desolation and infrastructure issues created by the snap.
Those original people not existing does not guarantee that someone else would not. There's plenty of of sperm in the sea, another would take it's place.
The Usual Suspects is a great one, because you feel like good wins, until you really think about it. Spacey plays such a lovable and vulnerable character, that you feel like him getting away is the good guy winning, but then it sinks in that he really isn't Verbal, and he really isn't just some pawn, and everything you know about him is a lie, and he's really a ruthless murderer, and he not only is responsible for most of the evil in the movie but untold other acts of violence... and yet part of you will always still see him as the quiet, unassuming person you'd just spent the last two hours with. Not only does evil win in the film, it kinda wins in the experience of the viewer as well.
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Primal Fear is another good example (like The Usual Suspects), and if Avenger Infinity Wars is in the list, then The Empire Strikes Back must, ;)
The problem I have with the ending of the Usual Suspects is that they now have a picture, prints etc. for Söze. Up to that point no one knew what he even looked like. In fact, wasn't the point of killing the guy on the boat to silence the person who could identify him?
@@crabbieappleton Yeah, that always bothered me, too. Makes me think about the horror that would have to rain down upon that station if he's going to maintain his anonymity.
@@mdjouster The end reveals that Söze may not be everything that he is perceived to be in the film, but it also shows that other, both in law inforcement and the criminal world, are aware of a person called Keyser Söze who is completely ruthless, has his fingers in all sorts of criminal activity, and has become something of a myth in the crime world. Whether Kint is Söze, whether Kint doesn't exist, whether Söze doesn't exist, those are all just minor points to the fact that Kint (or whoever he is) is decidedly not the sympathetic protagonist we feel like he is the entire movie.
I like Drag Me to Hell, but I thought it was always stupid he main character didn’t check she had the right envelope before going to put the button in the gypsy’s mouth.
Don’t disagree, but she was super stressed and probably hadn’t slept in days due to those crazy nightmares. Also hard for her to believe any of it was real
@@Mikeprocuratorlmao, right? I've never been under a gypsy curse, but I have to imagine it's pretty stressful, I might forget to take out the trash, or check inside an envelope🤣🤣🤣
Magic typically has a cost. to use it to make money or personal gain might cost more than its worth, hell she puts a death curse on the MC and literally dies before the curse runs it course.
Drag me to Hell's ending pissed me off, because it always seemed to me like giving the old lady's corpse the button was never going to work. Felt like the psychic friend was just guessing at that point. So the anxiety of watching Kristine digging up the grave, wrestling with the corpse, getting more gross things in her mouth, and nearly drowning just felt like a waste.
"Smile" definitely belongs here. The main character loses decisively and the curse passes on to someone close to her after watching the graphic suicide occur right in front of them.
What about Barbie? In that movie the Oppresive Matriarchy was overthrown but then re-established by that arch villainess - Barbie! She literally kidnaps all the other Barbies and brain washes them!
@@billburr5881 Worth noting that Barbie never overthrew the Oppressive Matriarchy to begin with; the one who actually did that was KEN! And then the movie goes out of its way to shame and degrade him and his long-oppressed fellow Kens, then twist the proverbial knife even further by outright refusing to give the Kens their equal rights in the movie’s “happy ending”. Funny story though. A mother on UA-cam commented once that her young daughter felt so bad for Ken after the movie that, despite never having much interest in Barbies before that, she immediately wanted a doll of the movie’s Ken so she could have him live in her dollhouse. No doubt he’s much, MUCH happier there than he ever was in Barbieland!
@@krashd Oh, so there's nothing evil with being a murderer? Probably even a mass murderer? He's a criminal kingpin known for his utter ruthlessness. But he's not evil.
Karate Kid belongs on this list. That bully Daniel takes his frustrations out on Johnny and beats him up at the end of the movie taking his trophy, his girl, and making his sensei disappointed in him.
The Skeleton Key (2005) just couldn’t take the ending and still feel so sorry for them 😂 Also, Javier Bardem (no country for old men) said, he knew they got his look right, when he went out (while filming), people crossed the street to get away from him and the movie wasn’t even out 🤣 I mean, he’s a big actor, but Anthony Hopkins had the same problem, so 🤷♀️
Honourable mention: even though the ending was changed. The original ending of Little Shop Of Horrors (and the ending of the musical) is the Plants take over the world
The terminator not only messed up the sequal with the third installment but retconed it and messed it up again with genisys and then again with dark fate. The biggest twist is Hollywood being the biggest evil to win in the end
Hated that movie. I hate movies where the bad guy wins. Nothing but disappointment upon disappointment to just end in more disappointment is not my idea of a good time.
Thanos wiped them out because he sincerely believed the universe couldn't sustain the population it had and the predicted growth... and it mentions in Endgame that there is some evidence after he did it that he may have been right to a degree.
There are some more movies where evil won (but maybe they are not as popular as those in your list) like these: Ex-Machina, American History X, Upgrade, Cloverfield, The Cloverfield Paradox, Apollo 18, Europa Report, Life (2017), The Usual Suspects, Annihilation,... and many others. ;)
The initial Omen films, Watchmen, Rosemarys Baby, Solent Green, Invasion of the Body Snatchers could also all have made it onto the lust. The ending of missing was really a gut punch though!!
I have to disagree with you on Watchmen. As the HBO series showed, Veight was doing what was best for humanity, Doctor Manhattan could see that, could see the future as well as the present, and left him alive to live with the guilt. He did the right thing the only way he could do it.
If we're going to excuse Ozymandias' mass murder with his rationalizations wouldn't the Soylent Corporation also get a pass? They have less options than Veidt did and overall cleaner hands
And let's not forget, with the coin in No Country for Old Men, the SIDES are chosen; could easily be "I do nothing" and "Give him a fiver"- the "I leave 'em alive" or "I kill 'em" is chosen by the Anton, and let's be honest- that's a pretty evil set of variables.
Yeah the people trying to claim he's not evil are pretty dumb....at the end of the day, he has agency...the coin doesn't dictate how he acts....he does. He's just rationalizing it to make himself feel better but in truth he's just a psychopathic murderer with an odd quirk.
And it's likely that someone like Anton will eventually end up dead at the hands of similar criminals or get arrested and locked up for a very long time.
I'd add Ex Machina. Whilst the film goes to great pains to show Oscar Isaac as the villain, Alicia Vikander is clearly the out and out antagonist by the last few minutes
@SkuLLetjaH pretty sure that discussion is the point of the way the movie ended. Where is the line drawn between self-preservation and evil? It's a pretty fair bet that Caleb would have helped her leave and create a life, but her manipulation made him an accessory to murder and left him for dead. Evil, or self-preservation?
My favorite movies are ones where the bad guy wins! Off the top of my head, there's (spoilers!): The Descent The Night Flier Identity A Nightmare on Elm St. Fallen Revenge of the Sith Empire Strikes Back Imposter The VVitch Dawn of the Dead (2004) In the Mouth of Madness Insidious The Midnight Meat Train The Skeleton Key
Revenge of the Sith is a single chapter in the over arching Star Wars story. The Sith did not actually win as they had not killed off all of the Jedi, rather they dropped the numbers of Jedi low. Ultimately the Jedi return after wiping out both the Emperor and his protege. The Empire Strikes Back didn't have the Empire winning anything. The Rebellion was still a force to be reckoned with to the point that the Emperor miscalculated the role a bunch of barbaric teddy bears on a forest moon would play.
@@aaronorr5586 Your points are duly noted. However, they are still movies that end with the villains winning. (Just so you know, I agree that these are only chapters in a larger story. My friends and I gather every year to watch all 6 in a single day. We've been doing this since the very Tuesday "RotS" came to DVD. So, believe me, I know exactly what you're saying, but) Please, allow me to retort... 🙂 In "RotS", the Republic was completely overthrown with The Jedi turned into enemies of the Empire and nearly wiped out. For all intents and purposes, Palpatine won by the end whether all of his enemies were killed or not. His defeat 30 years later takes nothing away from what he had accomplished by the end of the third movie. In "TESB", Luke is thoroughly broken and defeated (emotionally & physically) by Vader. (He was at the end of his rope and felt he had no choice but to attempt self deletion after learning of his lineage!) They only barely escaped after rescuing Luke because Artoo happened to learn about the hyperdrive when picking a lock. The movie ends with Han being taken to Jabba, with the others left nursing wounds (emotional & physical) and unsure of what's to come. They are at their lowest point. The Empire struck back big time! That's a win in *my* book.
@@BlackHatCinephileyou're saying the same thing as the OP but pretending it's different because you used different words. Just because someone is sympathetic doesn't mean they're right, all of the most evil people in the world had reasons for people to be sympathetic, otherwise they wouldn't have gotten anywhere with the evil deeds they did.
@BlackHatCinephile No, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, and Franco weren't sympathetic. Unlike Thanos and John Kramer who wanted to make the world a better place, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, and Franco wanted to make the world a worse place, they just pretended to want to make the world a better place but the fact they killed people just for criticising them proves they're just evil, whereas Thanos and John Kramer actually had the best of intentions, it's just that their visions of a better world were incredibly warped and wrong. Their good intentions make them sympathetic but their actions nevertheleess make them villainous and needing to be stopped by their nature.
The Ring is a classic. You think the little girl is innocent and the problem has been solved but nope, she shows up at the end to kill the guy and keeps on doing her "7 days" thing.
My one complaint about Se7en is that John Doe cheats his way to the finish line. The first five victims die as punishment for their own sins, at least in John's eyes. Yet, he rigs the game for the last two deaths in which the victims aren't the sinners. Not really a win for him, then.
That's what actually annoyed me with this movie. One can explain it away with serial killers being crazy, I guess, but still. Really, really annoyed me.
The Ring was still a pretty big and Iconic shocker too. Buried the girl, released her spirit in a heartwarming "Alls Forgiven" moment and BAM creepy television screen crawl.
It's already been mentioned here but one of Polanski's other works, namely Dance of the Vampires/The Fearless Vampire Killers, would be a good one for this list. Polanski seemingly has a thing for bad endings. Also, that is one of the most atmospheric and fun films I've ever seen. It also has a gorgeous Sharon Tate in it in a charming little role.
It's not out yet but I would put 'the voyage of the demeter' on the list. It's the latest Dracula movie and he's definitely killing everyone on that ship
@@CaptToilet i really don't understand why they kept him alive and i especially don't understand why they gave him a vow to kill dracula when we know he won't succeed
@@daryl772003 Agreed. The one bit I really didn't like about that movie. Everything else was pretty solid imo. Unless they were planning on turning him into the next Van Helsing but that would have been stupid.
T2 didn't end with it being clear that Judgement Day had been adverted, it ends with a monologue about facing an uncertain future for the first time, but with also with hope for the first time. This monologue however is played over the image of traveling down a dark road at night. It's unknown how the future will turn out here and was left vague.
The Empire Strikes Back comes to mind...plus it's the only 1980s movie with a training montage where the protagonist gets his butt whupped in the big showdown. The Dark Knight, basically, the Joker destroys Batman's reputation, crushes the Great Hope of Gotham, and even in defeat, he comes out on top. Either version of the Wicker Man...The Omen, Parts 1 and 2...The original Pink Panther: the jewel thief absconds with both the eponymous diamond, and Inspector Clouseau's wife. And...SILENCE OF THE LAMBS? Seriously? We're supposed to believe Jame Gumb was anything more than Lecter's patsy to get out of jail? Are Hannibal's crimes not greater? Interview with the Vampire...the Devil's Advocate...Angel Heart...KINGDOM OF THE SPIDERS... So many good movies, you could do What Culture and What Culture Horror videos on them.
In the end of Hereditary Peter, after the ritual is completed and the demon takes over his body, eats that cake that has peanuts in it… he is still very allergic to peanuts. So the demon doesn’t win in the end.
I don't think it counts if the (temporary) victory of the evil is expected to be fixed in a planned sequel (Avengers: Infinity Wars) or even an already existing sequel (Star Wars Ep. III). Terminator 3 is a similar case: we know humankind is going to win eventually. In a sense, Tarantino's The Hateful Eight also deserves to be mentioned: I don't know any other movie where every single character that appeared on the screen would be dead by the end (or shortly after).
He was onto something, but could not count. 50% means in one generation the problem is back at the same level He should instead focus on making people want to have less offspring or if that's not possible, lower fertility rates.
Yes, spending your life as a baby suckling on the teat of city convenience and conformity will give you warped sense of the value of human life. I hope you’ll volunteer for your own cull. 😂
I'd like to have seen Upgrade and Repo Men on here. Very similar endings, but interesting journeys on how you get there. In Repo Men the reveal at the end is just perfect, i think
Good list, tough one to keep brief. I would like to mention a lesser known, but deeply disturbing "Possessor". This movie really caught me off guard. This one stays with you.
I liked Hereditary but how about the films that largely inspired it The Omen, and Rosmary's Baby, not just dealing with demons but the literal antichrist. There's also the original Wicker Man, as well as Fallen, and if you really want the banality of evil and something based on real events like Zodiac or The Sacrament witch is deeply unsettling.
I would add John Carpenter's In the Mouth of Madness and The Prince of Darkness. The Thing, the first of Carpenter's apocalypse trilogy, has already been mentioned.
I argue Seven wasn't a victory for the serial murderer at all. It is NOT a bad thing to murder a stone cold monster who feeds on human misery before murdering people in horrific ways. It's like putting down a rabid dog, some things are just plain necessary for the survival of humanity.
The Vanishing sounds awesome! please put more movies that are not hollywood movies in these lists. like most were blockbusters, that have to feed into being popular.
I don't think that evil won in *Drag Me To Hell* , since the merciless employee of an evil bank, that evicted a poor old woman and murdered her own cat, was dragged to hell. 😁😁
I still find The Vanishing’s ending to be absolutely hilarious. Hat’s off to a serial killer who is so good at picking his marks that he manages to find the one woman whose man would rather take a roofie from the psycho who buried her alive than torture him to get his answer. I know the ending was changed for the remake so maybe it’s a cultural thing and they didn’t want American women to look at their spouse and go “you better not do some beta shit like that if I die cause I’ll be avoiding you in heaven.”
The dutch film is actually called "het gouden Ei" (The golden egg) and there's some really serious symbolism involved in the novel that gets left out entirely in the movie.... ironically; one of those themes is that sometimes ignorance is bliss and another is that the obsession of wanting to know everything might lead you stumbling into answer you REALLY didn't want to know. There's a shakespearean tragedy about it too.... In some of the final hours of Rex he ruminates about a nightmare Saskia used to have about hurtling to space entrapped in a golden egg. She knows she's not the only one out there but unable to see outside of the casement the only thing that would give her a conclusive answer would be if both eggs would collide with eachother, thereby killing them both.
Actually, in Avengers: Infinity War, even plants and animals have been reduced to half due to Thanos' snap. It has been shown when Hulk snapped, a tree with birds suddenly emerged inside their building, showing the return of the half of the universe.
If that is the case, that would make Thanos' already stupid plan even more stupider, considering plants and animals are _part_ of the resources higher civilization use. Where's the point - in terms of resources used/available - in reducing both the resource consumers and the resources themselves? It just means you're at the same ratio as before.
I always thought a better ending for Seven was if Mills had shot himself. Equally bleak, but more satisfying as John Doe's master plan comes crashing down.
I would like to add spellbinder to that list. No matter how much he tried the hero still ends being sacrificed at the end of the movie by his best friend.
Don't forget the movie where the villain caused tremendous harm and destruction, got everything he wanted and suffered no consequences: Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
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Of course, one popular fan theory is that Ferris was a persistent figment of a certain repressed guy's imagination.
Lmao
The fuck is wrong with you? SAVE FERRIS!
@@tranz2deepI am Jack's submerged sense of self.
The Usual Suspects and Silence of the Lambs should be on this list.
I disagree about Usual Suspects. Keyser Soze initiates the whole plot to kill the one man who can identify him. At the end, unbeknownst to him, every law enforcement agency on the planet will have his mugshot, fingerprints, and a recording of his voice. And don't forget that the statements made by the man who dies of his burns in the hospital after describing Soze to the authorities will be admissible in court under the dying-declaration exception to the hearsay rule. Soze hasn't been caught _yet_ at the end of the film, but he is much worse off at the end than at the beginning.
Buffalo bill died in the end or did you mean Hannibal cause i always thought of him as more of a anti hero not a villain
Hannibal wasn't the Villain of silence of the lambs, though.
@@noname-xx5uj Anti-hero or villain he is still evil. He escaped custody and will continue to kill. When we last see him, he is planning on murdering his old psychiatrist (I believe) and eating him. He isn't going to stop there so in essence he won.
What about Old Boy, that film really deserved a spot on this list
Fallen with Denzel Washington! The demon Azazel won! Still one of my favourites!
Didn’t I tell you it was about the night I almost died…
Awesome film
That's exactly what I thought when I saw the title.
A slow burn, with a fantastic ending.
This and Funny Games (either one)
hit the reply specifically to mention this. We were truly shocked by the ending, I mean it was Denzel! Of course he's gonna win and then, nope.
I never agreed with the ending for Drag Me To Hell. That woman was only doing her job. Since the witch was so all powerful, how come she could conjure up some money or make the damn bill just disappear or curse everyone that worked for the evil company?
@@dietotaku Exactly.
Thinner was a better curse film...drag me to hell is one of those films you root for the lead to die and that isn't good....
@@russellbarba8177 I never wanted her to die.
She wasn't the best person but didn't deserve everything she got. Maybe killing her cat sealed the deal and sent her to hell
@@adamwallace985 She didn't deserve to die. And there are many who have killed killed and tortured animals who getting the punishment she got. It's just sad all around.
Maybe it's too obvious, but The Cabin in the Woods definitely qualifies.
So the bad guys are the two survivors? Because the Eldritch Gods actually were going to destroy the world. So all the guys downstairs controlling the supernatural creatures actually lost.
@@maxlee8780 arguably there is no evil....the two survivors just answered the Trolley Problem differently than the guys downstairs.
@@Ceares the Eldritch gods are definitely evil. They are demanding human sacrifices. And the people getting entertainment from the human sacrifices are also evil. And the people whose job it is to release the supernatural creatures are also evil because they are engaging in human sacrifices.
Doesn't matter what your reason for doing evil is. You're still evil.
@@thedevilsrockstxr2309 okay and if it was our world and there were some monsters and we forced them to kill each other for our entertainment we'd also be evil
@@maxlee8780 that's kind of the point though... arguably there were no good guys in this movie and everyone got what was coming for them; humanity included.
I would definitely put Skeleton Key on this list. Evil definitely wins at the end of that movie and that's always my go to for that type of movie
Yes, it deserves to be on this list in place of some others.
Man, I forgot about that movie.
Can you imagine the lives that the guy and the girl now have to live all mute and trapped!? Sad
The skeleton key, I won't watch it anymore bcoz I pity her, all of her actions are wasted and ended up in an old body.
Twas lame
Fallen would be the best example. The villain actually tells you he won at the start of the movie but you don't realise it until the end.
he says at the start how he "almost died"
@@jerrellmackall4653 They should made a sequel starring Denzel W's son as his character's nefew.
Angel Heart comes to mind. The whole movie is moving inexorably towards the Devil's win.
It has great casting: Mickey Rourke (before his boxing career), Robert De Niro and Lisa Bonet.
Here i thought i was the only one who'd ever seen this movie...Gooo ole Louis.
@@deadfall8475 Mr Cypher! Good to see you...
ok the devil is a bad guy but didn't Mickeys character kill the other guy to get out of his deal with the devil making him evil and the devil just did his job.
@@mdjouster Yes, he was seeking the person who made a deal.
If the devils job is to punish the wicked. Doesn't that make him a _good guy?_ That is certainly his position in Angel Heart.
I would like to give an honourable mention to Arlington Road. It may not have made the list but it’s still a worthy contender for a part 2 if a second list is done.
That is one of the most depressing movie endings ever. I remember seeing it with my dad in the theater and after it was over we looked at each other like, "WTF did we just watch?"
Arlington Road had the most shocking ending. You knew the neighbors were evil, but you always expected them to be defeated at the end. They weren't.
I was going to mention that one. Well done, sir.
I was also waiting for this one
Very solid choice
Not going to lie, after i watched Hereditary i remarked to myself in all my years of watching a vast number of movies, i dont think i can remember ever feeling more sorry for a character than i did for Peter. Just wow.
Such a brilliant and brutal movie, and Toni Collette was amazing
I would add Midsommar to this list as well. Anyone that has seen the movie knows the cult accomplishes it's goal by the end of the film.
Was the cult really evil?
@@alejandroalamaparreno3000 I mean they killed an innocent couple because they wanted to leave, peeled the face and murdered a guy cause he peed on a tree, took a sledgehammer to the back of another guy just because and finally drugged and burned a guy alive in a dead bear suit because they drugged him and forced him to have sex with one of their own. And finally manipulated the main character throughout the entire movie. Yes the cult was evil.
What's evil is how horrible that boring slogfest is.
@@benjaminlogan8946Good point. Points.😅
Same thing with The Whicker Man (both the original and the remake).
Upgrade it's a nice example, especially because it's a action movie. Villains wins in terror movies are pretty common, but in a action movie is something more rare.
Yes! I love that movie. Stem finally became a human at the end of the movie after Grey's mind snaps.
That movie is AWESOME, I just rewatched it with my GF, she was astonished as well! Great movie!
Other examples:
1) Silence of the Lambs - Hannibal Lecter gets away and goes back on a killing spree.
2) Texas Chainsaw Massacre - While the final girl gets away she is horribly traumatized and never actually defeats the people who abused her.
3) Halloween Kills - Michael gets away after defeating a mobs and killing Laurie's daughter.
4) Batman V Superman - Lex Luthor won. Sure he get's sent to prison but he accomplished his goal in killing Superman.
5) Wolf Creek - Serial killer Mick Taylor just simply wins. He kills his victims and walks away in the sunlight a free man.
6) Primal Fear - Edward Norton's character gets away with murder.
7) The Woman in Black - The ghost ends up getting her intended victim.
8) Unbreakable - Another film where a person does go to prison but achieves their main goal regardless.
9) Funny Games - A film where the two villains do everything they want and then just head off to find more victims.
10) Fallen - A demonic possession film where the villain manages to escape while the hero dies for nothing.
Arlington Road
Fallen. Such a great performance by Washington at the end.
Yes Primal Fear!!!!
Fallen wa such a good movie bit wolf creek haunted me. It felt like something that is really happening around the world.
Oof, Funny Games...
The thing with DMTH is that, according to Sam Raimi, Christine was intended to be the hidden bad guy all along. The idea was to initially portray her as sweet and sympathetic during the time when her life was going great. Even when Christine denied the extension to Mrs. Ganush, Raimi went out of his way to make Christine look perfectly in the right and make Mrs. Ganush look crazy and unpleasant in comparison, in order to make the audience take Christine's side as much as possible. But in reality, "when push comes to shove and [Christine] has to get this job promotion, she sins with greed and forces this old lady out of her home hiding behind the rules of the bank.". And afterwards, Christine's sins grow worse and worse as things get even harder for her; in Raimi's exact words, "she goes against her own values, lies, asks people to risk their lives, tries to blame her boss when confronted by the demon, and selfishly tries to give the curse away to save her self", all the while having "a positive charm about her which helps the audience stay with her despite all the horrible things she does". The intended message was that, by the end of the film, everyone in the audience is a sinner as well for siding with Christine throughout all of her despicable actions, and that the fate that awaited Christine in the end could easily await each and every one of us as well.
In short, to quote Raimi once again, "[Christine] was a good person on the outside but when you see what she’s willing to do, she’s just not a good person at all. She deserves what she gets. Although, maybe she’s just a little overpunished for her sins."
SOURCE: www.dreadcentral.com/news/11797/sam-raimi-talks-drag-me-to-hell/
Thank you kindly internet stranger! I was starting to think that I might be misremembering the movie, because so many people thought she was a little darling who just happened to get cursed out-of-the-blue. Her tipping point for going against any morals she may have had is probably the scariest part of the film. Also, her excuse of “just doing her job” (the catalyst for her demise) is a pretty good hint that she’s not a good person, since there’s a well-known historical event in which some very horrendous people did some very atrocious things using a very similar excuse. The true nature of her character was always made painfully obvious, as long as one could look past her adorable facade.
Fun(?) fact: killing animals is a disturbingly common practice run before someone decides to kill a person. One wonders how many other “villain tropes” would be evident upon rewatching the movie.
Gonna say that I would have liked to see Brightburn on this list.
So true. Get rid of the Roman Polanski rape film and put this one in.
I was gonna say this myself. Just wached it last night for the first time.
Cabin in the woods kind of fits, but hilariously so. On the other hand, the Mist’s end is brutally gutting in its final twist
Agree about Mist, but I wouldn't say that evil won in that.
Too soon, guy. It'll always be too soon...
@@brentage5000 The novella just stops before there's any resolution, and the movie stops with the transcosmic invasion ending because the rift seals itself up.
So yeah. There exist other Mist media but I'm not gonna watch 'em or read 'em, it was a juvenile subpar King effort at its origin.
@@zimriel dude, what are you talking about? I'm just saying that The Mist isn't a movie where evil won
@@brentage5000 i... know? that's why i said "so yeah"
Nurse Ratched One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
I saw the title of this video and couldn't help but to think about 'The Dark Knight'. Sure, Batman did capture Joker, but he made himself out to be a villain in the eyes of Gotham by taking out Harvey. The thing is that when the Joker convinced Harvey to go down a dark path, things were going to go downhill for Gotham. When Joker mentioned to Batman that he pushed Harvey down that path, it became clear that Batman needed to make a choice. If he had let Harvey go, people would know that Harvey had become a terrible person, and all of the corrupt government officials would've been let go due to a technicality. By killing off Harvey, Batman prevented that, but he ended up making himself out as a villain. It may have been the lesser of the two evils, but still, evil won in the end of that movie.
The daughter in Hereditary is called Charlie, not Milly.
Milly Shapiro is the actress's name.
Jack Pooley messed it up here for Ellie, and it's not her fault.
Honorable mention to two horror classics. That being Invasion of the Body Snatchers and Alfred Hitchcock’s The Birds.
Do the pod people count as evil? They're just doing what alien hive-minded parasites do, without malice. Also, it depends on which version you watch. The 1956 original had a more hopeful ending.
I don't think a cause for the birds aggression is mentioned. Maybe they just got tired of their brethren being made into nuggets!
There are several versions of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. There was a book, where the humans won. There was a black & white movie where the humans won (though the main girl is lost). And then, all other versions where the humans lose. But it's weird to see someone refer to a "horror classic" and commence talking like they don't actually know the classic, just the remake.
That's hardly even fair evil almost always wins in those
The fact that Fallen with Denzel isn’t mentioned in this is terrible its one of the most well executed films pun intended
Thanos could have just also wiped everyones memories and no one would have ever known, that could have been the great plot twist for Scott Lang.
He could have made it so that the people who randomly disappeared had never existed. That would completely change everything and prevent all of the desolation and infrastructure issues created by the snap.
@@GoodBoyGoneDad If they never existed he wouldn't have come up with the idea to unexist them
Those original people not existing does not guarantee that someone else would not. There's plenty of of sperm in the sea, another would take it's place.
The Wicker Man (1973) anyone? One of the greatest. Christopher Lee is so amazing in his role.
Come. It is time to keep your appointment with the Wicker Man.
What do you mean? Those folks weren't evil. And yes, the original was a STUNNING film. One of my favorites.
A pretty good Iron Maiden song into the bargain.
I always thought of it as the finest example of BBQ to come out of the UK. Lots of burnt ends and roast pork.
Identity is the first movie that came to my mind.
"wh*res don't get a second chance"
The Usual Suspects is a great one, because you feel like good wins, until you really think about it. Spacey plays such a lovable and vulnerable character, that you feel like him getting away is the good guy winning, but then it sinks in that he really isn't Verbal, and he really isn't just some pawn, and everything you know about him is a lie, and he's really a ruthless murderer, and he not only is responsible for most of the evil in the movie but untold other acts of violence... and yet part of you will always still see him as the quiet, unassuming person you'd just spent the last two hours with. Not only does evil win in the film, it kinda wins in the experience of the viewer as well.
Primal Fear is another good example (like The Usual Suspects), and if Avenger Infinity Wars is in the list, then The Empire Strikes Back must, ;)
Agreed! Kizer Szoze! The ending, OMG!
The problem I have with the ending of the Usual Suspects is that they now have a picture, prints etc. for Söze. Up to that point no one knew what he even looked like. In fact, wasn't the point of killing the guy on the boat to silence the person who could identify him?
@@crabbieappleton Yeah, that always bothered me, too. Makes me think about the horror that would have to rain down upon that station if he's going to maintain his anonymity.
@@mdjouster The end reveals that Söze may not be everything that he is perceived to be in the film, but it also shows that other, both in law inforcement and the criminal world, are aware of a person called Keyser Söze who is completely ruthless, has his fingers in all sorts of criminal activity, and has become something of a myth in the crime world.
Whether Kint is Söze, whether Kint doesn't exist, whether Söze doesn't exist, those are all just minor points to the fact that Kint (or whoever he is) is decidedly not the sympathetic protagonist we feel like he is the entire movie.
*"Kill List"* should be here. And *"Gone Girl."*
The Last Seduction -- highly recommended! -- comes instantly to mind. Linda Fiorentino was amazing!
And also pretty gorgeous to boot. It's an underrated movie and a rarity being a film noir from the nineties rather than the forties.
I like Drag Me to Hell, but I thought it was always stupid he main character didn’t check she had the right envelope before going to put the button in the gypsy’s mouth.
Don’t disagree, but she was super stressed and probably hadn’t slept in days due to those crazy nightmares. Also hard for her to believe any of it was real
@@Mikeprocuratorlmao, right? I've never been under a gypsy curse, but I have to imagine it's pretty stressful, I might forget to take out the trash, or check inside an envelope🤣🤣🤣
Magic typically has a cost. to use it to make money or personal gain might cost more than its worth, hell she puts a death curse on the MC and literally dies before the curse runs it course.
@@coltbrowncoat And I doubt that the demon offered her such power to curse anyone for free.
Drag me to Hell's ending pissed me off, because it always seemed to me like giving the old lady's corpse the button was never going to work. Felt like the psychic friend was just guessing at that point. So the anxiety of watching Kristine digging up the grave, wrestling with the corpse, getting more gross things in her mouth, and nearly drowning just felt like a waste.
You missed Swordfish, Usual Suspects, and The Skeleton Key too
"Smile" definitely belongs here. The main character loses decisively and the curse passes on to someone close to her after watching the graphic suicide occur right in front of them.
What about Barbie?
In that movie the Oppresive Matriarchy was overthrown but then re-established by that arch villainess - Barbie!
She literally kidnaps all the other Barbies and brain washes them!
Yeah, I hated how that movie is portrayed as being against sexism, but still has the Barbies act pretty sexist at the end.
@@billburr5881 Worth noting that Barbie never overthrew the Oppressive Matriarchy to begin with; the one who actually did that was KEN! And then the movie goes out of its way to shame and degrade him and his long-oppressed fellow Kens, then twist the proverbial knife even further by outright refusing to give the Kens their equal rights in the movie’s “happy ending”.
Funny story though. A mother on UA-cam commented once that her young daughter felt so bad for Ken after the movie that, despite never having much interest in Barbies before that, she immediately wanted a doll of the movie’s Ken so she could have him live in her dollhouse. No doubt he’s much, MUCH happier there than he ever was in Barbieland!
Skyfall.
Antagonist wants M dead.
M gets killed. Antagonist dies but he got what he wanted done.
You got Keven Spacey in Seven, but missed him in "Usual Suspects." In Seven he was just insane, in Unusual Suspects he's downright evil.
That's just normal p3d0 murdering kevin.
Plus, it's Kevin Spacey getting money, evil definitely winning.
lol I was about to say, you also have Kevin Spacey IRL who is winning quite evilly.@@wouldiwasshookspeared4087
He's not evil in the Usual Suspects, he's just a criminal.
@@krashd Oh, so there's nothing evil with being a murderer? Probably even a mass murderer? He's a criminal kingpin known for his utter ruthlessness. But he's not evil.
Upgrade deserves a mention. Criminally underrated movie.
IKR... I just rewatched it with my GF, and she was also astonished... great movie!
No love for Primal Fear? The ending to that is just chilling
I think the director's cut of the Butterfly Effect deserves a mention.
I see the thought. But if you think about it the hero takes the evil away from the ones he cares about so did evil really win?
Evil won when I paid real money for that crap.
If there is a part 2 made then 'Eden Lake' should definitely be considered
Karate Kid belongs on this list. That bully Daniel takes his frustrations out on Johnny and beats him up at the end of the movie taking his trophy, his girl, and making his sensei disappointed in him.
Nightmare on Elm Street is also an Evil Wins film, the final scene involves them all realising they were all dreaming.
The Skeleton Key (2005) just couldn’t take the ending and still feel so sorry for them 😂
Also, Javier Bardem (no country for old men) said, he knew they got his look right, when he went out (while filming), people crossed the street to get away from him and the movie wasn’t even out 🤣 I mean, he’s a big actor, but Anthony Hopkins had the same problem, so 🤷♀️
House of 1000 corpses
The most evil movie I have ever seen
Upgrade from 2017 - one of the most underrated cyberpunk movies of modern era.
Yes! I love that movie!
Colossus: The Forbin Project is my favourite 'bad guy wins ' movie. Terminator wouldn't exist without this proto-Skynet feature.
Indeed. That movie doesn't get talked about enough.
Good call!
Honourable mention: even though the ending was changed. The original ending of Little Shop Of Horrors (and the ending of the musical) is the Plants take over the world
No mention of Invasion of the Body Snatchers?
The terminator not only messed up the sequal with the third installment but retconed it and messed it up again with genisys and then again with dark fate. The biggest twist is Hollywood being the biggest evil to win in the end
Wow, as you described Chinatown, I couldn’t help but hear the similarities used in Sucker Punch…
Sinister comes to mind, great film.
If Arlington Road isn't on this list, you're doing it wrong.
But we’re they evil?
If what they did wasnt evil nothing is.
Well I guess using evil to fight evil is evil.
Hated that movie. I hate movies where the bad guy wins. Nothing but disappointment upon disappointment to just end in more disappointment is not my idea of a good time.
Thanos wiped them out because he sincerely believed the universe couldn't sustain the population it had and the predicted growth... and it mentions in Endgame that there is some evidence after he did it that he may have been right to a degree.
You forgot "Lifeforce" (which starred a Patrick Stewart with hair). The space vampires completely won.
There are some more movies where evil won (but maybe they are not as popular as those in your list) like these:
Ex-Machina, American History X, Upgrade, Cloverfield, The Cloverfield Paradox, Apollo 18, Europa Report, Life (2017), The Usual Suspects, Annihilation,... and many others. ;)
Your definition of evil is immensely broad.
@@krashd 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Which of these movies do you think he is wrong about evil winning?@@krashd
Upgrade and Brightburn would have made good additions to the list.
Brightburn. Dear Lord the end of that movie was horrifying. Love when evil wins in movies.
@@JennySparkz Brightburn definitely deserves a sequel. They referenced other super beings that really need to be followed up on.
The initial Omen films, Watchmen, Rosemarys Baby, Solent Green, Invasion of the Body Snatchers could also all have made it onto the lust.
The ending of missing was really a gut punch though!!
I have to disagree with you on Watchmen. As the HBO series showed, Veight was doing what was best for humanity, Doctor Manhattan could see that, could see the future as well as the present, and left him alive to live with the guilt. He did the right thing the only way he could do it.
If we're going to excuse Ozymandias' mass murder with his rationalizations wouldn't the Soylent Corporation also get a pass? They have less options than Veidt did and overall cleaner hands
You missed Imposter. Infinity War doesn't count because that was only half the story. Endgame undid it and the heroes triumphed.
Exactly. The list is fundamentally flawed if you refuse to consider all the following content to the film.
Sinister. Mr. Boogie (Buhguul) absolutely won in that evil, twisted movie
UPGRADE. Didn't see that end coming. Another addition for a part 2, I hope.
Yes! I love that movie.
And let's not forget, with the coin in No Country for Old Men, the SIDES are chosen; could easily be "I do nothing" and "Give him a fiver"- the "I leave 'em alive" or "I kill 'em" is chosen by the Anton, and let's be honest- that's a pretty evil set of variables.
Yeah the people trying to claim he's not evil are pretty dumb....at the end of the day, he has agency...the coin doesn't dictate how he acts....he does. He's just rationalizing it to make himself feel better but in truth he's just a psychopathic murderer with an odd quirk.
And it's likely that someone like Anton will eventually end up dead at the hands of similar criminals or get arrested and locked up for a very long time.
I'd add Ex Machina. Whilst the film goes to great pains to show Oscar Isaac as the villain, Alicia Vikander is clearly the out and out antagonist by the last few minutes
But is she evil? I'd say she acts out of self preservation, seeking a way out of the game her creator plays with her.
@@SkuLLetjaHI wouldn't consider her evil either
@SkuLLetjaH pretty sure that discussion is the point of the way the movie ended. Where is the line drawn between self-preservation and evil? It's a pretty fair bet that Caleb would have helped her leave and create a life, but her manipulation made him an accessory to murder and left him for dead.
Evil, or self-preservation?
How about Legally Blonde, which ends with the chilling scene of hundreds of more lawyers qualifying?
@@kevinclapson No, just evil.
I love Happy Endings
Same, Life itself has no happy ending, so at least ficitonal stories can have them.
After massages.
The ending of the godfather was incredible as well!
Seeing the side of the girl dragged under the railroad tracks and see her face seem to be decomposing was very chilling to watch
Primal Fear is my favorite for this category - a great twist on the pretending-to-be-insane defense.
My favorite movies are ones where the bad guy wins! Off the top of my head, there's (spoilers!):
The Descent
The Night Flier
Identity
A Nightmare on Elm St.
Fallen
Revenge of the Sith
Empire Strikes Back
Imposter
The VVitch
Dawn of the Dead (2004)
In the Mouth of Madness
Insidious
The Midnight Meat Train
The Skeleton Key
Revenge of the Sith is a single chapter in the over arching Star Wars story. The Sith did not actually win as they had not killed off all of the Jedi, rather they dropped the numbers of Jedi low. Ultimately the Jedi return after wiping out both the Emperor and his protege.
The Empire Strikes Back didn't have the Empire winning anything. The Rebellion was still a force to be reckoned with to the point that the Emperor miscalculated the role a bunch of barbaric teddy bears on a forest moon would play.
@@aaronorr5586 Your points are duly noted. However, they are still movies that end with the villains winning. (Just so you know, I agree that these are only chapters in a larger story. My friends and I gather every year to watch all 6 in a single day. We've been doing this since the very Tuesday "RotS" came to DVD. So, believe me, I know exactly what you're saying, but) Please, allow me to retort... 🙂
In "RotS", the Republic was completely overthrown with The Jedi turned into enemies of the Empire and nearly wiped out. For all intents and purposes, Palpatine won by the end whether all of his enemies were killed or not. His defeat 30 years later takes nothing away from what he had accomplished by the end of the third movie.
In "TESB", Luke is thoroughly broken and defeated (emotionally & physically) by Vader. (He was at the end of his rope and felt he had no choice but to attempt self deletion after learning of his lineage!) They only barely escaped after rescuing Luke because Artoo happened to learn about the hyperdrive when picking a lock. The movie ends with Han being taken to Jabba, with the others left nursing wounds (emotional & physical) and unsure of what's to come. They are at their lowest point. The Empire struck back big time! That's a win in *my* book.
Some oldies but goodies: Lemora, A Child’s Tale of the Supernatural (1973), Crucible of Terror (1972), The Witchmaker (1969), The Devil’s Rain (1975)
The Omen. Rosemary's Baby. The Wicker Man (the great one...well, either version, I suppose). Parts: The Clonus Horror. The Dunwich Horror.
According to TV Tropes this list will fall in the category of "The Bad Guy Wins."
John Kramer and Thanos were sympathetic villains, but villains nonetheless.
@@BlackHatCinephileyou're saying the same thing as the OP but pretending it's different because you used different words. Just because someone is sympathetic doesn't mean they're right, all of the most evil people in the world had reasons for people to be sympathetic, otherwise they wouldn't have gotten anywhere with the evil deeds they did.
@BlackHatCinephile
No, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, and Franco weren't sympathetic. Unlike Thanos and John Kramer who wanted to make the world a better place, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, and Franco wanted to make the world a worse place, they just pretended to want to make the world a better place but the fact they killed people just for criticising them proves they're just evil, whereas Thanos and John Kramer actually had the best of intentions, it's just that their visions of a better world were incredibly warped and wrong. Their good intentions make them sympathetic but their actions nevertheleess make them villainous and needing to be stopped by their nature.
The Ring is a classic. You think the little girl is innocent and the problem has been solved but nope, she shows up at the end to kill the guy and keeps on doing her "7 days" thing.
Secret Window with Johnny Depp has a good evil ending
The Wailing would've been a great addition to this list.
My one complaint about Se7en is that John Doe cheats his way to the finish line. The first five victims die as punishment for their own sins, at least in John's eyes. Yet, he rigs the game for the last two deaths in which the victims aren't the sinners. Not really a win for him, then.
Good point.
That's what actually annoyed me with this movie. One can explain it away with serial killers being crazy, I guess, but still. Really, really annoyed me.
A twisted character like John Doe either didn't see it that way or simply didn't care which might have been one of his intentions.
The Ring was still a pretty big and Iconic shocker too. Buried the girl, released her spirit in a heartwarming "Alls Forgiven" moment and BAM creepy television screen crawl.
It's already been mentioned here but one of Polanski's other works, namely Dance of the Vampires/The Fearless Vampire Killers, would be a good one for this list. Polanski seemingly has a thing for bad endings. Also, that is one of the most atmospheric and fun films I've ever seen. It also has a gorgeous Sharon Tate in it in a charming little role.
Best not forget Rosemary's Baby. Also Polanski (based on a book by Ira Levin)
One could put Polanski's real life in this list.
The Live with Rowdy Roddy Piper, pretty sure qualifies for this, with the hero of the film dying and the aliens, while being exposed, still living.
It's not out yet but I would put 'the voyage of the demeter' on the list. It's the latest Dracula movie and he's definitely killing everyone on that ship
Well not everyone
@@CaptToilet i really don't understand why they kept him alive and i especially don't understand why they gave him a vow to kill dracula when we know he won't succeed
@@daryl772003 Agreed. The one bit I really didn't like about that movie. Everything else was pretty solid imo. Unless they were planning on turning him into the next Van Helsing but that would have been stupid.
T2 didn't end with it being clear that Judgement Day had been adverted, it ends with a monologue about facing an uncertain future for the first time, but with also with hope for the first time. This monologue however is played over the image of traveling down a dark road at night. It's unknown how the future will turn out here and was left vague.
The Empire Strikes Back comes to mind...plus it's the only 1980s movie with a training montage where the protagonist gets his butt whupped in the big showdown.
The Dark Knight, basically, the Joker destroys Batman's reputation, crushes the Great Hope of Gotham, and even in defeat, he comes out on top.
Either version of the Wicker Man...The Omen, Parts 1 and 2...The original Pink Panther: the jewel thief absconds with both the eponymous diamond, and Inspector Clouseau's wife.
And...SILENCE OF THE LAMBS? Seriously? We're supposed to believe Jame Gumb was anything more than Lecter's patsy to get out of jail? Are Hannibal's crimes not greater?
Interview with the Vampire...the Devil's Advocate...Angel Heart...KINGDOM OF THE SPIDERS...
So many good movies, you could do What Culture and What Culture Horror videos on them.
First Wicker Man, great. The Nicholas Cage version, give me a break.
In the end of Hereditary Peter, after the ritual is completed and the demon takes over his body, eats that cake that has peanuts in it… he is still very allergic to peanuts. So the demon doesn’t win in the end.
I don't think it counts if the (temporary) victory of the evil is expected to be fixed in a planned sequel (Avengers: Infinity Wars) or even an already existing sequel (Star Wars Ep. III). Terminator 3 is a similar case: we know humankind is going to win eventually.
In a sense, Tarantino's The Hateful Eight also deserves to be mentioned: I don't know any other movie where every single character that appeared on the screen would be dead by the end (or shortly after).
Upgrade had a great idea of Evil winning
Yes! I love that movie. Stem is the true definition of evil.
As someone that has spent most of life in overcrowded cities, Thanos may be on to something.
Go to one of the hundreds of dying rural towns around the country that have lost (at least 50%) of their population. It’s like living after the snap.
One could also argue that with that much power at his fingertips, he could have just solved the natural resource problem
He was onto something, but could not count.
50% means in one generation the problem is back at the same level
He should instead focus on making people want to have less offspring or if that's not possible, lower fertility rates.
@@sjonnieplayfull5859you think Thanos should have been a Marxist, as well as a Malthusian?
Yes, spending your life as a baby suckling on the teat of city convenience and conformity will give you warped sense of the value of human life. I hope you’ll volunteer for your own cull. 😂
I'd like to have seen Upgrade and Repo Men on here. Very similar endings, but interesting journeys on how you get there. In Repo Men the reveal at the end is just perfect, i think
Jeepers creepers
I give Drag Me to Hell credit for sticking with the title. Just like "Penn and Teller Get Killed"
I love Terminator 3. It took real balls to make that ending.
I agree with you
It takes real balls to admit that you love that crap movie. Terminators being machines showing expressions makes no fucking sense.
Good list, tough one to keep brief. I would like to mention a lesser known, but deeply disturbing "Possessor". This movie really caught me off guard. This one stays with you.
I liked Hereditary but how about the films that largely inspired it The Omen, and Rosmary's Baby, not just dealing with demons but the literal antichrist. There's also the original Wicker Man, as well as Fallen, and if you really want the banality of evil and something based on real events like Zodiac or The Sacrament witch is deeply unsettling.
Yup. The cult and demon movies often fall into the "evil won" category by default.
I would add John Carpenter's In the Mouth of Madness and The Prince of Darkness. The Thing, the first of Carpenter's apocalypse trilogy, has already been mentioned.
If you're including Se7en as a moral victory, then I think you should include "I saw the Devil"
I argue Seven wasn't a victory for the serial murderer at all. It is NOT a bad thing to murder a stone cold monster who feeds on human misery before murdering people in horrific ways. It's like putting down a rabid dog, some things are just plain necessary for the survival of humanity.
The Vanishing sounds awesome! please put more movies that are not hollywood movies in these lists. like most were blockbusters, that have to feed into being popular.
I don't think that evil won in *Drag Me To Hell* , since the merciless employee of an evil bank, that evicted a poor old woman and murdered her own cat, was dragged to hell. 😁😁
"The Mist" could have been a good candidate for this list
I still find The Vanishing’s ending to be absolutely hilarious. Hat’s off to a serial killer who is so good at picking his marks that he manages to find the one woman whose man would rather take a roofie from the psycho who buried her alive than torture him to get his answer. I know the ending was changed for the remake so maybe it’s a cultural thing and they didn’t want American women to look at their spouse and go “you better not do some beta shit like that if I die cause I’ll be avoiding you in heaven.”
I agree :D I really enjoyed the film but after thinking about it for a while, the final act made little sense since Saskia obviously wasn't alive.
The dutch film is actually called "het gouden Ei" (The golden egg) and there's some really serious symbolism involved in the novel that gets left out entirely in the movie.... ironically; one of those themes is that sometimes ignorance is bliss and another is that the obsession of wanting to know everything might lead you stumbling into answer you REALLY didn't want to know. There's a shakespearean tragedy about it too....
In some of the final hours of Rex he ruminates about a nightmare Saskia used to have about hurtling to space entrapped in a golden egg. She knows she's not the only one out there but unable to see outside of the casement the only thing that would give her a conclusive answer would be if both eggs would collide with eachother, thereby killing them both.
Actually, in Avengers: Infinity War, even plants and animals have been reduced to half due to Thanos' snap. It has been shown when Hulk snapped, a tree with birds suddenly emerged inside their building, showing the return of the half of the universe.
If that is the case, that would make Thanos' already stupid plan even more stupider, considering plants and animals are _part_ of the resources higher civilization use.
Where's the point - in terms of resources used/available - in reducing both the resource consumers and the resources themselves? It just means you're at the same ratio as before.
I always thought a better ending for Seven was if Mills had shot himself. Equally bleak, but more satisfying as John Doe's master plan comes crashing down.
The Skeleton Key, VVitch and The Wicker Man come to mind also
Would have loved to see Starship Troopers on here. The Humans were the Evil in the movie.
In which case, by the same reasoning, Ender's Game.
I would like to add spellbinder to that list. No matter how much he tried the hero still ends being sacrificed at the end of the movie by his best friend.