The SPRING IS TOO LONG. Not a gas problem. SPRING PROBLEM. Try a Tubb's flat wire AR-10 spring. It allows the BCG to come back far enough to fix all the problems. I had all the same problems, and the spring fixed it. All 308 ammo works on setting 2 with my 16" using the flat wire spring. Now I love the SFAR. Saved a good gun from being dumped.
Well the problem in this particular case was the gas key came loose. Once I fixed that I had similar results to you although ammo Inc didn’t run. But I’ll check that spring out! I have other videos out after this one showing the problem.
Thanks for the review! I have purchased two 16” SFAR’s. One I use with a thermal optic for night hunting predators ( setting 1 - suppressed- shooting 110gr Hornady V-Max), the other for daytime deer hunting (setting 2 - unsuppressed w/ 150gr Norma Whitetail & 150gr Remington Core Lokt)…I had initial issues with the first one, but after a break-in of a couple hundred rounds my failure to feed and bolt over bullet issues resolved themselves…On my second rifle, I sent it back to Ruger twice. The first time they replaced the barrel assembly. The second time the bolt…Now both of mine run great! It was a pain while diagnosing the issues, but Ruger stuck by me and fixed everything…I feel 100% confident in both guns for hunting, however I might want to send several hundred more down the pipe before I’d consider it 100% for a dedicated self defense rifle….Just wanted to share my experiences. Good luck to all! 👍
@@frankopanklaric Didn’t really have much option but to send it back when I encountered a malfunction and give them the opportunity to make it right. It was not fun (especially with a firearm that I’d been so excited to get my hands on for so long). Glad they took care of my issues…I took the second SFAR out to the range yesterday for some July 4th Chitty-chitty-bang-bang and I shot about 80 rounds of 150 grain hunting ammo (3 different brands). All cycled perfectly on gas setting two! Accuracy was decent, considering it was 90 degrees out and I was shooting at a pretty fast pace. 1.5” groups (5 shot groups) are easy with decent ammo.
I also use a SFAR with 110gr Vmax .308 rounds for varmint hunting, they work excellent on neck shots for deer too. Of course the best deer ammo to buy imo is the Hornady Superperformance 150gr SST at 3k fps box speed. But a 110gr is absolutely a great deer/self defense load, if you hit near the spinal cord like the Scapula or go for a mid neck shot it’s lights out every time.
I'm sure glad I researched this gun before purchasing. I was dead set on buying one of these as I really liked it. But nope I'll deal with the weight of a AR10 and have much better reliability. This firearm needs to be pulled as every video I see has problems. Not good Ruger.....
I entirely understand wanting everything to run flawlessly through this...before I got into handloading I bought over 70 different types of .308 rounds (none of them being the NATO 7.62 variety) and started testing each for cycling, groups, etc. Then after some thought I asked myself "what in the world am I actually trying to do??" I still like to maybe use the factory rounds as a base-test in the AR10 & bolt, but as for defense, I've settled on the Speer GD 150 gr & Hornady CD FTX 155 gr. After seeing them in gel, it seems a bit pointless as long as they cycle and aren't 9" groups. I'm going to be handloading up the 125 gr Nosler BTs and once I confirm those will run & group, will be relying on those for defense with those other 2 as backups a bit deeper in the magazine. Just a thought...if you can figure out what you want this for, and just have an ammo or two or five that runs the way you desire, maybe that's all that's needed? I am not even sure I quite agree with the notion that the NATO stuff is what THESE are designed to run in...as they are chambered in .308. Sure, the original AR-10s, but that's not what yours is. I might be missing something, but desiring to run the NATO, lower-power stuff seems arbitrary unless that's what your chambering actually is limited to, and on the list of those weapons? I mean technically, it's the wrong ammo for your Ruger?
Most likely if they sent a new bolt then you should have treated the rifle as new and follow the factory instructions to shoot setting three, then to setting two after so many shots and 1 with suppressor. You stated that this one was not altered and you were shooting it as it came from Ruger vs what you did before changing factory parts with third party. I have seen a few tubers changing parts and all of them have run into problems from the beginning expecting the rifle to perform flawlessly by also shooting it starting with setting two when it's recommend to use setting 3. I followed the factory instructions with mine and it performed flawlessly except for a couple of hiccups with setting one without a suppressor and that was by my on choosing. By the way, I used 308 and 7.62 ammo at setting 3 and 2 including my own handloads of 150 and 168 grains without problems.
It’s possible. But to be fair, it does not say that in the manual. That’s an internet UA-cam rumor and I confirmed that with Ruger. The manual says there is a break in period but does not direct you to use setting 3. It also says that some ammo may not run on setting 2, which it doesn’t so that’s also fair. I believ at this point the rifle is running as ruger designed so I’m good with that.
Different gas settings for different weights and brands of ammo isn't uncommon for something like the FAL. The gas setting was always a balance between doing "just enough" to cycle or too much recoil and loss of accuracy. HK roller delayed weapons don't have gas settings and despite working well with mostly everything there are weights and brands those won't cycle either. I had a batch of S&B 7.62 that didn't cycle properly in a G3 type. Some mp5s won't cycle anything other than fmj while others eat everything. Just find the mag and ammo combination on the right setting that works.
This is a great point. I think the expectation, at least mine, was that this would be similar to an ar-15 and pretty much run any ammo I try in it. But as you point out, that’s just not where these systems are at in their development.
I would give it a few more magazines before you start changing stuff. I understand that you have shot several hundred already, but the BCG is a main component that will smooth out as the gun is run. As specified by Ruger, setting 2 is for .308 once the gun is broken in a bit and depending on the gun (there is some variation) it may cycle 762 fine. If not, bump it up to 3. I think people are starting to realize there is a lot of variation in various ammo types so it’s a hard task to get something to cycle everything with one setting. You can get one ammo to run perfect and the next may be under or over gassed.
Fair point and agree with all your points. This just isn’t going to be a rifle that cycles everything on every setting…like many other rifles out there. I do think they are working through some QC issues though and I am still suspicious about the single screw for the gas key but time will tell! Thanks for the advice!!
@@triggerbarPhD I’m curious what other .308 ARs cycle everything on all settings? Technically your SFAR would cycle everything on setting 3, right? Who’s to say those other guns aren’t just gassed like the SFAR is on setting 3? Time will tell on the gas key I suppose. Mine has been fine! Happy fourth!
I run the 20" barrel on a bran new(purchased 9/25/2023). I'm almost 100 rounds in and not one failure. I've tried to do what I can to make it fail, and I have been unsuccessful with that. I am sincerely impressed with this rifle. I get 1 moa with $25 cheap ammo(Norma 150 grain SP)
What size regulator did you get and how did you get it to fit around the fifteen-inch rail? I've been looking at it but can't figure out how to put it on the gun without having to get a new rail. And I don't really want to do that.
@jimlemon9159 when I first did mine I just used the aero precision adjustable gas block and a really long Allen wrench. Rifle speed makes longer adjustable gas blocks that might go through to the 15” mark. I think they make one with a 5” extension. Those are pricy but everything I’ve heard they are worth it.
It looks like the 5 inch riflespeed just comes out to the end of the 15 inch rail. And you couldn't adjust it. Thats What it looked like when I measured it. So I thought you would use the rifle speed but you used the Areo Precision , And that fixed the problem.What about above it? Did you have to increase the buffer?
I appreciate the detail & demonstration. I am concerned about mine. I sold other guns, accessories and saved to get mine. I had complete confidence in Ruger when I bought it. But I am wavering in confidence now. Going to take mine out soon and run NATO & 308 on #2 to see how it goes. Have a fantastic 4th with family & friends celebrating freedom.
Thanks my friend. I do hope and feels it’s coming together. I have had other other guns that I have given up on. I’m not at that point with this one. I do think though I’ve been a bit too optimistic about getting it to run all ammo on one setting. That’s not even what the manual says. So I’m happy with knowing 308 on 2 and 3 for NATO rounds. But I do have an aero gas block on order so I’ll keep everyone posted if I get something more reliable going! Best of luck with yours and hope it runs great!! Happy 4rth!!
Sucks man, I’m not even 200 in on mine and no malfunctions on setting 2. Zero modifications to mine besides a limb saver butt pad makes it a blessing to shoot.
Absolutely. In this case from this video it kind of got worse. Turns out my gas key was loose and so had to send it in for them to make sure a new bcg would fit properly. That told me a lot!!
Oh dang that sucks, really sorry to hear that. You should call ruger, they are very fast. I have a series of videos on what I did to fix mine but hopefully ruger can just take care of you!
Also, thats a bit of a rumor spread by some youtube people because its not in the manual. I've talked to Ruger and they said nothing about that. However, when I started out, that's exactly what I did. You can see my first shots video where I show that. 200 rounds on setting 3...
Right, the manual only states that the regulator breaks in after 100-200 rounds, and I figured it might require another break in after the rebuild. I hope it doesn’t give you any more trouble, and that Ruger got it right this time around.
Yah and that’s possible. I now have about 100 through on this regulator but I really don’t know what Ruger did to it, they said they “fixed it” and when I talked to customer support that could mean they cleaned it, but it does not mean they replaced it again, so I have over 100 on this regulator. I’ve not given up and I’ll keep shooting it. I’m happy that it runs at least the way it does now!
Great series, been after a light weight .308 semi since the POF Rev came out. Too much $$$ and doubts so went with their Gen4 P308. Already had an Armalite AR10 Tac18. BOTH run 7.62 Nato on their factory, normal adj. gas block settings, also run .308 with no perceptible difference. The SFAR won't do that. Ruger should have put in a bomb-proof gas block and a 1-piece machined carrier like LWRC for another $200. How about BlindSight's crack at the barrel extension port? IMO, you will continue to find the weak point over and over. Charging handle hits the stock(from Turkeys vid)? I can't make my AR's do it! By the way, how do you feel about the bolt going into battery with a loaded mag insert @6:50? It may be a Ruger feature since they came up with so many good innovations on this rifle, I'll pass on it.🤔
yah that's a good point about Blind Sights cracked chamber. Worries me. But his bcg was literally eating the chamber, I really think there was something else going on with his. Yah mine slammed shut on the one. Very disturbing. Still have to figure out what to do with this thing. You have a great option sounds like!!
Ive heard of alot of problems with these sfars. They had to use only one bolt for the gas key to shorten up the bolt because they wanted to make it an ar15 sized ar10. They basically bypassed reliability to have a little bit smaller of a gun. No thanks.
Yah, I think this was a big mistake. Mine came loose and I’ve heard of others having the same issue. And because it’s not standard it has to be sent back to ruger for a new bcg. Really? Well the plus side was round trip door to door was only 1 week for the repair which sometimes that’s how long it takes to order a bcg! (Of course I want two or three as replacements on hand with this design but currently that’s not an option.
Thanks my friend. Well in this video I didn’t realize the single (yes the SFAR only has one) screw holding the gas key to the bcg, had come loose. Didn’t realize that till after I made and published the video. 😂🤣
@@AlaskanBallistics 😂🤣. I ended up sending it back and they replaced it. They said I had to send the whole rifle back because they needed to check the head space. Seems off if they make all of these rifles to the same specifications but whatever. I did tighten down and took it back out and it worked a lot better before I sent it back. Now I’ve done a few more videos with a couple more on the way. 😀
I wonder if the 20in barrel version would have the same issues. Been think of getting it for hunting with 165-180gr SP and other hunting variants cartridges.
I think some are better. I still hear about issues with it. The good news is I think that what you want to shoot works awesome in my gun. In general though I can’t in good conscience recommend this gun. I believe I will keep mine. But as I’ve done these videos I’ve seen some stuff even worse than mine, cracked chamber, a spam fire on bolt closure and all sorts of screws coming loose, etc. it can happen with any gun but there seems to be an awe full lot of problems with this and Ruger’s QC. If you are set on it, I do think I hear less about the 20” and the first thing I’d do is tighten every single screw to spec on the rifle. Gas key, gas block, hand guard, etc. then I’d keep checking my chamber for cracks and weird brass shavings…. Then I’d repeat at every cleaning. That’s my plan with mine…. Good luck! I think in hind sight I’d go with the sig 716i or the mdrx bull pup . The MDRX is way more expensive (716i is closer in price) but you kind of get what you pay for…
@@triggerbarPhD does the SFAR come with recommend spec in screw tightening? How does one inspect the chamber. If I do get an SFAR, it would be the first AR-10/15 platform style rifle I own. A bit out of the loop on how to inspect them.
It specifies the screws for the hand guard, then everything else is sort of standard spec so you can look them up. Honestly, I’m just learning this all myself too. I don’t have decades of experience with them either. As for the chamber just shine a flashlight down and look at it to inspect it, the one I saw from another channel was fairly obvious. You are in Alaska right? I see you all the time when I’m in Chuke’s channel. Love his content so fun!
I noticed your gun is doing what mine does. Inconsistent ejection pattern. This may be a “break in “ issue ( which I’m not really buying into, shouldn’t be necessary ). Mine seems to be doing well with 168 gr. Hornady Match , 43.5 TAC at about 2540 FPS. Any hotter is begins to failure to extract. Setting 2 on old style reg.
Yes it really was throwing them all over. And that’s just with the same ammo. With the Hornady match it was consistent. Yah I’m not buying the break in. UA-camrs talk about breakin but the ruger manual doesn’t talk about that at all…
Kudos for your patience with this Ruger firearm... Most others would have sold the rifle..... maybe Ruger should look back to their past .308/7.62x51 rifle and ascertain what made the Ruger SR762 successful apart from the fact it had a piston action and was very expensive. My Ruger SR762 also had a regulator issue and Ruger replaced the regulator.... no problems since 😀
Yah lol. They seem to be struggling a bit and have lost their way. I just think that the et may have rushed this one and got a bit ambitious. I may be too patient with this but man a lightweight 308 is what we all want! I’m just too hopeful! Thanks again for watching and I’m glad your beautiful SR762 is running top!!
@@triggerbarPhD I agree that not only Ruger has "lost their way " with regards to quality control and innovation( POF came out with a light weight .308 and it also has problems and a very high price!) but Springfield Armory has their Prodigy issues! (Yikes!) and Smith and Wesson has their shotgun issues (it was recalled shortly after being introduced) and their 10MM Auto M&P (way too many issues!).... so these and other manufacturers need to do a much better job or customers will spend their hard earned dollars elsewhere....just FYI!
I read on another UA-cam channel that if you sand down the magazine follower slightly till it moves freely it will fix the problem. It maybe worth a try.
I noticed the bolt closed on its own during the mag insert right after your gas setting three adjustment! That could be an advantage in some cases but not the way they are supposed to work. Watched in slow motion and did not see your hand anywhere near the bolt release?
My SFAR experience 7.62 setting 3, .308 setting 2..suppressed setting 1. I think Ruger’s main mistake is in the gas block setting recommendations. Everyone who is unhappy that I have seen wants everything unsuppressed to run on setting 3. Maybe that’s not an unreasonable desire..maybe it is ..but if they just said in the manual 3 for 7.62, 2 for .308 and 1 for suppressed I think that 99.5% of people would be happy and not feel like something is wrong with their sfar. JMO. And yes I have an SFAR..and I love it..7.62 gets 3..that’s why they gave it a an adjustable gas block from the factory. How many mass produced AR platform rifles come with an adjustable gas block? Who really thinks they did it for those who run 308 suppressed? 😂 That was a hey..since we need to make it adjustable to run both 7.62 abd .308 might as well add a 3rd setting for suppressed.
I had a similar experience but it wouldn’t run all ammo suppressed in setting 1 for me. I had to run 7.62 on setting 2 suppressed. But I agree they should have said 7.62 for setting 3 and 308 for setting 2. In the end I think the 4 settings was a bit too aggressive and I would have appreciated 6 or 7 settings, but in the end I have 15 when I changed to a different gas block!
Sent in my 16" SFAR after 160 rounds and incurring failure to extract at times that became FTE every time and ripping off the rim of the case. Came back from Ruger with a new "Barrel Group" & BCG...ok whatever Barrel Group means/includes. Anyway, keep running it and no problems for several magazines, then about magazine 5 (~100rds) FTE again and no bolt hold open when loading a single round. The second round of FTEs became consistent, happening after every shot fired. Back to Ruger, who runs 60 rounds through it no problem.... awesome, I am now a liar. Ok, maybe some carbon was stuck in the gas system, whatever. Back to the range and it is running reliably on setting 2 for factory loads (store bought Aguila, Hornady, Federal, Sig Sauer) and my hand loads (168 Sierra TMK 43.0g Varget & 147 FMJ 50.0g CFE 223), ok good. It will run suppressed (forgot setting, sorry) with the 4 mentioned factory loads, but will NOT run on either of my hand loads. I supposed this is to be expected on a Gen 1 AR10 style rifle, but for the price and the 6.8lbs, my “know better” went out the window…. lesson learned…maybe. It’s fun to shoot now that it’s reliable (w/o my can) but a big letdown that it will only run suppressed with factory loads. Maybe in time it will loosen up, but with 400 rounds on the new barrel, I am thinking probably not.
Have you tried going up in pressure on your reloads ? This thing expects full power. If you are shooting lower pressure for fun with a can, I suspect it would have problems. Have you shot on setting 2 with the can? When I had problems on setting 1, it ran on setting 2. You are not a liar. I heard from them and they run 308 federal ammo. I suspect any deviation from that load and we get our issues.
@@triggerbarPhD On my 2nd round of FTEs, it was short stroking every time, so you maybe on to something with upping the reloads. The 43.3g for my 168TMK group so well on my built .308 (1/2" groups @ 100yds w/4fps SD) I don't have the heart to chase something better, though Hodgdon shows 45.0C, so I could go a bit higher, but it shoots/cycles like a dream on my built .308 so there's that; hard to change a great load for a back up-non-precision "play rifle" when it runs so good on my precision build. My 50.0g for my 147FMJ (Armscor, I think) are just bay rounds, for a red dot setup, so I could go up to 51.5 according to Hodgdon with a 150g bullet selection. I have tried all the settings 1,2.3, up the river and back down it and my hand loads are a no go. I am a curious cat, so I think I'll bump up the charge on a small batch for both Varget and CFE223 loads to see if that does it....thanks for the suggestion.
@@nickel8664 that’s really interesting. Would love to hear how it goes. Also have you checked the OAL difference between what runs and your factory loads? That was the problem with my hand loads. They are too long (they were purpose built for my bolt action so that makes sense). I’m sure you’ve checked this and sounds like your other rifle is an AR so maybe this is nothing but thought I’d throw it out…
What size spring is it? The buffer tube seems just a bit longer than carbine, but not as long as rifle. And my thought was a less power spring simply because the rifle SLAMS shut. Almost like the spring is pushing way too hard. That would also cause failures to feed. Like the bolt is out running the magazine. Just a thought I had.
I’ve tried carbine length ones. In particular I’ve run a braided Geisele buffer spring with h, 2 and 3 springs. On setting 3 I could get all ammo running but not on setting 2. I think this time is going to try a aero precision adjustable gas block and just get something different for the settings in between 2 and 3.
@triggerbarPhD also, I pulled my carbine spring from an AR15 and the one in the SFAR is obviously longer. That's why I asked what spring length you've tried.
It's just not worth it. It's a shame too. I'm sure it can be done right... but not this time around. Oh well. Hopefully improvements are made and the lightweight ar 10 idea can live. Thanks for all the testing! Thats alot of ammo! Reload time!👊👊👊👍👍👍
It can be done right. POF has been doing the light AR 10 for a few years. But it will cost you a lot more than the Ruger. I guess you get what you pay for
Good luck! Bought one around thanksgiving, it had a very crooked buffer tube. Sent it in, came back with a slightly less crooked buffer tube. Went over the whole thing with a borescope and was shocked by what I found. I detailed all the problems and sent it back in. They gave me a brand new one. It had a very crooked buffer tube along with a few other issues and blemishes. I sent it in. They gave me a refund. Apparently they can’t guarantee a properly built sfar
Looks like it is working properly, they aren't going to send you just a bolt because there's always a chance it won't headspace. Brass looks fine too maybe a sharp edge on one ejector.
@@triggerbarPhD pretty sure the AR15 is just a regular AR15 and you can grab a bolt anywhere. Headspace check is up to you, most of the time they're fine but sometimes you can have issues.
@@bpc701 yah i guess since their l’s is proprietary and not some mail-spec, but at the same time if these are mass produced, and they make all the parts…you’d think it would be drop in. 🤷♂️
@@triggerbarPhD Really frustrating. I had a similar process with a Mossberg 930. They said it needed to “break-in” with 200 full power loads, which also weren’t cheap. Well that didn’t work out. I ended up sending it in and they had to replace the receiver, which they said was “out of spec”. To add insult to injury when they sent it back they didn’t tighten the mag tube all the way and I ended up breaking a part on the gun which they ended up sending me. It does run flawlessly now but I definitely spent more time and money than I would have liked getting it running.
@@triggerbarPhDI am currently having issues with a Bergara B-14 HMR in 308. It won’t group under 1 MOA with premium factory ammo or hand loads. I sent it back to Bergara, they shot two 3-shot groups through it and sent it back to me without doing anything to it or even telling me the were sending it. I was away on vacation and had to pay UPS to hold it so it wouldn’t be returned to sender. Meanwhile, I have a Tikka CTR that shot under 0.5 MOA (on average) for 5-shot groups from the start and with pretty much every load feed it. 😂 I’ve been trying to get it to shoot for over a year but Bergara thinks the accuracy of their “Hunting/Match” rifle is just fine. I wouldn’t be upset if they didn’t claim it was a “match” rifle. Anyway, I think the biggest problem with these companies is that they assume their end-users are morons. I’m a Mechanical Engineer. If I can’t get your rifle to shoot, you done f*cked up.
@@michaelhill6451 exactly. That’s really frustrating. They should tell you what ammo and how they got it to group. It is maddening that they don’t take care of what they ship out!
Yah that’s the tricky thing with this. With the older gas regulator it was way over gassed, it now seems a bit under gassed. I just think having only 4 gas settings was too little for this rifle.
This rifle is absolute crap...I've wasted so much money on it w prolly 600rnd thru it...its ab to go back to ruger for a 3rd time...first 2 times it wouldnt cycle now it cycles ok...had a few ftf but now im having bolt lug deformation...i told them first 2 times i was scared headspace wasnt right bc it didnt easily extract live chambered rounds
That totally sucks. And I hear you on it being a money pit. I put so much into ammo in testing this thing to see if I could get it to function properly. So frustrating!!! I’m so sorry to hear that. Are you going to ask for your money back on the rifle?
@@triggerbarPhD I did ask for my money back the 2nd time and the ladt said they wont do it bc I bought it from a store then I said "what ab all the ammo are you going to reimburse me" when it wouldn't cycle at all and her reply was "no"
@garrettpittman7374 that sucks. I’ve heard of others getting their money back after sending it back so many times. I’d keep pushing on that and/or a full replacement. They warranty their product…
@@triggerbarPhD yea apparently I'm the only one that hasn't been happy w customer service...when I asked for my money back or a whole new rifle that should have been it. Dont make me take the same peice of junk back over and over again
I hear you on that. That is not right. You aren’t the only one who has gotten upset with them! Another guy had to keep sending it back but they eventually got a refund so fingers crossed!!
I have this same rifle, but the 20" barrel version. I have not experienced ANY of these "common issues" that you, an everybody else is experiencing. I have about 500rds through mine. I will say this, when I first got my rifle, it was dry as a bone, ☠️ on the inside, that would definitely cause failure to feed/eject rds. I had to lube mine up. I haven't had any issues, knock on wood!🪵🤞
My 20” is doing pretty good. I’ve got about 100 rds through it now with less than a handful of malfunctions. Bolt didn’t lock back couple times and didn’t pick up the next rd once. All 3 of those malfunctions were within the first 60 rds for me. I do want to show you a picture and get your opinion about something I noticed happened to one of the rds on my last range trip though. Do you have instagram? I can do you.
The SPRING IS TOO LONG. Not a gas problem. SPRING PROBLEM. Try a Tubb's flat wire AR-10 spring. It allows the BCG to come back far enough to fix all the problems. I had all the same problems, and the spring fixed it. All 308 ammo works on setting 2 with my 16" using the flat wire spring. Now I love the SFAR. Saved a good gun from being dumped.
Well the problem in this particular case was the gas key came loose. Once I fixed that I had similar results to you although ammo Inc didn’t run. But I’ll check that spring out! I have other videos out after this one showing the problem.
Thanks for the review! I have purchased two 16” SFAR’s. One I use with a thermal optic for night hunting predators ( setting 1 - suppressed- shooting 110gr Hornady V-Max), the other for daytime deer hunting (setting 2 - unsuppressed w/ 150gr Norma Whitetail & 150gr Remington Core Lokt)…I had initial issues with the first one, but after a break-in of a couple hundred rounds my failure to feed and bolt over bullet issues resolved themselves…On my second rifle, I sent it back to Ruger twice. The first time they replaced the barrel assembly. The second time the bolt…Now both of mine run great! It was a pain while diagnosing the issues, but Ruger stuck by me and fixed everything…I feel 100% confident in both guns for hunting, however I might want to send several hundred more down the pipe before I’d consider it 100% for a dedicated self defense rifle….Just wanted to share my experiences. Good luck to all! 👍
Thanks so much for sharing this! Man I bet this is awesome for predator hunting!!
@@triggerbarPhD Yeah, those 110’s shoot a little flatter and faster than the 150’s.
That sounds terrible. I would not put up with that.
@@frankopanklaric Didn’t really have much option but to send it back when I encountered a malfunction and give them the opportunity to make it right. It was not fun (especially with a firearm that I’d been so excited to get my hands on for so long). Glad they took care of my issues…I took the second SFAR out to the range yesterday for some July 4th Chitty-chitty-bang-bang and I shot about 80 rounds of 150 grain hunting ammo (3 different brands). All cycled perfectly on gas setting two! Accuracy was decent, considering it was 90 degrees out and I was shooting at a pretty fast pace. 1.5” groups (5 shot groups) are easy with decent ammo.
I also use a SFAR with 110gr Vmax .308 rounds for varmint hunting, they work excellent on neck shots for deer too. Of course the best deer ammo to buy imo is the Hornady Superperformance 150gr SST at 3k fps box speed. But a 110gr is absolutely a great deer/self defense load, if you hit near the spinal cord like the Scapula or go for a mid neck shot it’s lights out every time.
I'm sure glad I researched this gun before purchasing. I was dead set on buying one of these as I really liked it. But nope I'll deal with the weight of a AR10 and have much better reliability. This firearm needs to be pulled as every video I see has problems. Not good Ruger.....
💯 laying some truth right here!!!
I entirely understand wanting everything to run flawlessly through this...before I got into handloading I bought over 70 different types of .308 rounds (none of them being the NATO 7.62 variety) and started testing each for cycling, groups, etc. Then after some thought I asked myself "what in the world am I actually trying to do??" I still like to maybe use the factory rounds as a base-test in the AR10 & bolt, but as for defense, I've settled on the Speer GD 150 gr & Hornady CD FTX 155 gr. After seeing them in gel, it seems a bit pointless as long as they cycle and aren't 9" groups. I'm going to be handloading up the 125 gr Nosler BTs and once I confirm those will run & group, will be relying on those for defense with those other 2 as backups a bit deeper in the magazine. Just a thought...if you can figure out what you want this for, and just have an ammo or two or five that runs the way you desire, maybe that's all that's needed?
I am not even sure I quite agree with the notion that the NATO stuff is what THESE are designed to run in...as they are chambered in .308. Sure, the original AR-10s, but that's not what yours is. I might be missing something, but desiring to run the NATO, lower-power stuff seems arbitrary unless that's what your chambering actually is limited to, and on the list of those weapons? I mean technically, it's the wrong ammo for your Ruger?
I agree with your thoughts here Shasta. And actually I’m good with how it is running right now, 308 on 2 and 7.62 on 3. That seems fair to me.
A possible clue to reliability issues. Firing pin retainer protruding above surface of bolt creating friction, slowing action. Just a thought!
Most likely if they sent a new bolt then you should have treated the rifle as new and follow the factory instructions to shoot setting three, then to setting two after so many shots and 1 with suppressor. You stated that this one was not altered and you were shooting it as it came from Ruger vs what you did before changing factory parts with third party. I have seen a few tubers changing parts and all of them have run into problems from the beginning expecting the rifle to perform flawlessly by also shooting it starting with setting two when it's recommend to use setting 3. I followed the factory instructions with mine and it performed flawlessly except for a couple of hiccups with setting one without a suppressor and that was by my on choosing. By the way, I used 308 and 7.62 ammo at setting 3 and 2 including my own handloads of 150 and 168 grains without problems.
It’s possible. But to be fair, it does not say that in the manual. That’s an internet UA-cam rumor and I confirmed that with Ruger. The manual says there is a break in period but does not direct you to use setting 3. It also says that some ammo may not run on setting 2, which it doesn’t so that’s also fair. I believ at this point the rifle is running as ruger designed so I’m good with that.
Different gas settings for different weights and brands of ammo isn't uncommon for something like the FAL. The gas setting was always a balance between doing "just enough" to cycle or too much recoil and loss of accuracy. HK roller delayed weapons don't have gas settings and despite working well with mostly everything there are weights and brands those won't cycle either. I had a batch of S&B 7.62 that didn't cycle properly in a G3 type. Some mp5s won't cycle anything other than fmj while others eat everything. Just find the mag and ammo combination on the right setting that works.
This is a great point. I think the expectation, at least mine, was that this would be similar to an ar-15 and pretty much run any ammo I try in it. But as you point out, that’s just not where these systems are at in their development.
I would give it a few more magazines before you start changing stuff. I understand that you have shot several hundred already, but the BCG is a main component that will smooth out as the gun is run. As specified by Ruger, setting 2 is for .308 once the gun is broken in a bit and depending on the gun (there is some variation) it may cycle 762 fine. If not, bump it up to 3. I think people are starting to realize there is a lot of variation in various ammo types so it’s a hard task to get something to cycle everything with one setting. You can get one ammo to run perfect and the next may be under or over gassed.
Fair point and agree with all your points. This just isn’t going to be a rifle that cycles everything on every setting…like many other rifles out there. I do think they are working through some QC issues though and I am still suspicious about the single screw for the gas key but time will tell! Thanks for the advice!!
@@triggerbarPhD I’m curious what other .308 ARs cycle everything on all settings? Technically your SFAR would cycle everything on setting 3, right? Who’s to say those other guns aren’t just gassed like the SFAR is on setting 3? Time will tell on the gas key I suppose. Mine has been fine! Happy fourth!
I didn't have to do that with any of my guns. My SIG 716 dmr g2 included. They all ran out of the box with any ammo.
@@frankopanklaric probably gassed like setting 3 then..
I run the 20" barrel on a bran new(purchased 9/25/2023). I'm almost 100 rounds in and not one failure. I've tried to do what I can to make it fail, and I have been unsuccessful with that. I am sincerely impressed with this rifle. I get 1 moa with $25 cheap ammo(Norma 150 grain SP)
That’s fantastic! Love to hear that!!!
The regulator has been the bane of this rifle. I changed mine to an aftermarket AGB and its been running like a top ever since
I agree. I’m in the process is doing that right now. Did you replace the gas tube with that as well?
A good AGB made all the differance on mine the one Ruger currently supplies doesnt cut it
What size regulator did you get and how did you get it to fit around the fifteen-inch rail? I've been looking at it but can't figure out how to put it on the gun without having to get a new rail. And I don't really want to do that.
@jimlemon9159 when I first did mine I just used the aero precision adjustable gas block and a really long Allen wrench. Rifle speed makes longer adjustable gas blocks that might go through to the 15” mark. I think they make one with a 5” extension. Those are pricy but everything I’ve heard they are worth it.
It looks like the 5 inch riflespeed just comes out to the end of the 15 inch rail. And you couldn't adjust it. Thats What it looked like when I measured it. So I thought you would use the rifle speed but you used the Areo Precision , And that fixed the problem.What about above it? Did you have to increase the buffer?
I appreciate the detail & demonstration. I am concerned about mine. I sold other guns, accessories and saved to get mine.
I had complete confidence in Ruger when I bought it. But I am wavering in confidence now. Going to take mine out soon and run NATO & 308 on #2 to see how it goes. Have a fantastic 4th with family & friends celebrating freedom.
Thanks my friend. I do hope and feels it’s coming together. I have had other other guns that I have given up on. I’m not at that point with this one. I do think though I’ve been a bit too optimistic about getting it to run all ammo on one setting. That’s not even what the manual says. So I’m happy with knowing 308 on 2 and 3 for NATO rounds. But I do have an aero gas block on order so I’ll keep everyone posted if I get something more reliable going! Best of luck with yours and hope it runs great!! Happy 4rth!!
@@triggerbarPhD Again we appreciate the good, honest demonstration and perspective. It is a service to other owners, potential buyers and Ruger also.
Sucks man, I’m not even 200 in on mine and no malfunctions on setting 2. Zero modifications to mine besides a limb saver butt pad makes it a blessing to shoot.
That is awesome!! Love to hear about these things running!!
I like the idea behind the SFAR but i don't want to be dependent on a single manufacturer with proprietary parts.
Absolutely. In this case from this video it kind of got worse. Turns out my gas key was loose and so had to send it in for them to make sure a new bcg would fit properly. That told me a lot!!
I can say for sure with my experience with the SFAR, I've been getting a lot of remedial action training as well on M80 ball
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Lmao😂
I got a brand new one yesterday, the 20" barrel, had about 10 malfunction, in 120 shots. It was yesterday March 09 2024.
Oh dang that sucks, really sorry to hear that. You should call ruger, they are very fast. I have a series of videos on what I did to fix mine but hopefully ruger can just take care of you!
Apparently Ruger recommends a break in of 100-200 rounds on setting 3.
I did that but thanks for the recommendation! I have over 800 rounds in it now.
Also, thats a bit of a rumor spread by some youtube people because its not in the manual. I've talked to Ruger and they said nothing about that. However, when I started out, that's exactly what I did. You can see my first shots video where I show that. 200 rounds on setting 3...
Right, the manual only states that the regulator breaks in after 100-200 rounds, and I figured it might require another break in after the rebuild. I hope it doesn’t give you any more trouble, and that Ruger got it right this time around.
Yah and that’s possible. I now have about 100 through on this regulator but I really don’t know what Ruger did to it, they said they “fixed it” and when I talked to customer support that could mean they cleaned it, but it does not mean they replaced it again, so I have over 100 on this regulator. I’ve not given up and I’ll keep shooting it. I’m happy that it runs at least the way it does now!
Dude he's ran bout 1000 rounds through it already. Ruger should be ashamed and refund your $. Id be fk hoppin 😡
Great series, been after a light weight .308 semi since the POF Rev came out. Too much $$$ and doubts so went with their Gen4 P308. Already had an Armalite AR10 Tac18. BOTH run 7.62 Nato on their factory, normal adj. gas block settings, also run .308 with no perceptible difference. The SFAR won't do that. Ruger should have put in a bomb-proof gas block and a 1-piece machined carrier like LWRC for another $200. How about BlindSight's crack at the barrel extension port? IMO, you will continue to find the weak point over and over. Charging handle hits the stock(from Turkeys vid)? I can't make my AR's do it! By the way, how do you feel about the bolt going into battery with a loaded mag insert @6:50? It may be a Ruger feature since they came up with so many good innovations on this rifle, I'll pass on it.🤔
yah that's a good point about Blind Sights cracked chamber. Worries me. But his bcg was literally eating the chamber, I really think there was something else going on with his. Yah mine slammed shut on the one. Very disturbing. Still have to figure out what to do with this thing. You have a great option sounds like!!
Ive heard of alot of problems with these sfars. They had to use only one bolt for the gas key to shorten up the bolt because they wanted to make it an ar15 sized ar10. They basically bypassed reliability to have a little bit smaller of a gun. No thanks.
Yah, I think this was a big mistake. Mine came loose and I’ve heard of others having the same issue. And because it’s not standard it has to be sent back to ruger for a new bcg. Really? Well the plus side was round trip door to door was only 1 week for the repair which sometimes that’s how long it takes to order a bcg! (Of course I want two or three as replacements on hand with this design but currently that’s not an option.
Ejection was erratic at best. The hornady was the best ejection pattern
Thanks my friend. Well in this video I didn’t realize the single (yes the SFAR only has one) screw holding the gas key to the bcg, had come loose. Didn’t realize that till after I made and published the video. 😂🤣
@@triggerbarPhD locktite that @#$%&
@@AlaskanBallistics 😂🤣. I ended up sending it back and they replaced it. They said I had to send the whole rifle back because they needed to check the head space. Seems off if they make all of these rifles to the same specifications but whatever. I did tighten down and took it back out and it worked a lot better before I sent it back. Now I’ve done a few more videos with a couple more on the way. 😀
I wonder if the 20in barrel version would have the same issues. Been think of getting it for hunting with 165-180gr SP and other hunting variants cartridges.
I think some are better. I still hear about issues with it. The good news is I think that what you want to shoot works awesome in my gun. In general though I can’t in good conscience recommend this gun. I believe I will keep mine. But as I’ve done these videos I’ve seen some stuff even worse than mine, cracked chamber, a spam fire on bolt closure and all sorts of screws coming loose, etc. it can happen with any gun but there seems to be an awe full lot of problems with this and Ruger’s QC. If you are set on it, I do think I hear less about the 20” and the first thing I’d do is tighten every single screw to spec on the rifle. Gas key, gas block, hand guard, etc. then I’d keep checking my chamber for cracks and weird brass shavings…. Then I’d repeat at every cleaning. That’s my plan with mine…. Good luck! I think in hind sight I’d go with the sig 716i or the mdrx bull pup . The MDRX is way more expensive (716i is closer in price) but you kind of get what you pay for…
@@triggerbarPhD does the SFAR come with recommend spec in screw tightening? How does one inspect the chamber. If I do get an SFAR, it would be the first AR-10/15 platform style rifle I own. A bit out of the loop on how to inspect them.
It specifies the screws for the hand guard, then everything else is sort of standard spec so you can look them up. Honestly, I’m just learning this all myself too. I don’t have decades of experience with them either. As for the chamber just shine a flashlight down and look at it to inspect it, the one I saw from another channel was fairly obvious. You are in Alaska right? I see you all the time when I’m in Chuke’s channel. Love his content so fun!
@@triggerbarPhD Yes sir, born and raised Alaskan Native. Thanks for the info on the specs and chamber. Chuke’s content is great and amazing.
Yes the 20” has the same issues. I have fallen victim
I noticed your gun is doing what mine does. Inconsistent ejection pattern. This may be a “break in “ issue ( which I’m not really buying into, shouldn’t be necessary ). Mine seems to be doing well with 168 gr. Hornady Match , 43.5 TAC at about 2540 FPS. Any hotter is begins to failure to extract. Setting 2 on old style reg.
Yes it really was throwing them all over. And that’s just with the same ammo. With the Hornady match it was consistent. Yah I’m not buying the break in. UA-camrs talk about breakin but the ruger manual doesn’t talk about that at all…
Kudos for your patience with this Ruger firearm... Most others would have sold the rifle..... maybe Ruger should look back to their past .308/7.62x51 rifle and ascertain what made the Ruger SR762 successful apart from the fact it had a piston action and was very expensive. My Ruger SR762 also had a regulator issue and Ruger replaced the regulator.... no problems since 😀
Yah lol. They seem to be struggling a bit and have lost their way. I just think that the et may have rushed this one and got a bit ambitious. I may be too patient with this but man a lightweight 308 is what we all want! I’m just too hopeful! Thanks again for watching and I’m glad your beautiful SR762 is running top!!
I sold mine lol..😂
@@triggerbarPhD I agree that not only Ruger has "lost their way " with regards to quality control and innovation( POF came out with a light weight .308 and it also has problems and a very high price!) but Springfield Armory has their Prodigy issues! (Yikes!) and Smith and Wesson has their shotgun issues (it was recalled shortly after being introduced) and their 10MM Auto M&P (way too many issues!).... so these and other manufacturers need to do a much better job or customers will spend their hard earned dollars elsewhere....just FYI!
And what a wise move that was…
Absolutely. I was one of the people who had the M&P 10mm and I did lose my patience on that one and am still made at S&W!
I bought an Aero gas block for mine and have an H2 buffer on hand in case. Ruger needs to get their gas blocks and gas keys figured out.
Absolutely! I just did the same thing! Just got the aero gas block on. Seems to be running great now!
I read on another UA-cam channel that if you sand down the magazine follower slightly till it moves freely it will fix the problem. It maybe worth a try.
Thanks for the tip! I’ll check that out!
I noticed the bolt closed on its own during the mag insert right after your gas setting three adjustment! That could be an advantage in some cases but not the way they are supposed to work. Watched in slow motion and did not see your hand anywhere near the bolt release?
Yes you are right, that was a little concerning to me. I’ve also seen others have this problem so some concern…good catch!
My SFAR experience 7.62 setting 3, .308 setting 2..suppressed setting 1.
I think Ruger’s main mistake is in the gas block setting recommendations. Everyone who is unhappy that I have seen wants everything unsuppressed to run on setting 3. Maybe that’s not an unreasonable desire..maybe it is ..but if they just said in the manual 3 for 7.62, 2 for .308 and 1 for suppressed I think that 99.5% of people would be happy and not feel like something is wrong with their sfar. JMO. And yes I have an SFAR..and I love it..7.62 gets 3..that’s why they gave it a an adjustable gas block from the factory. How many mass produced AR platform rifles come with an adjustable gas block? Who really thinks they did it for those who run 308 suppressed? 😂 That was a hey..since we need to make it adjustable to run both 7.62 abd .308 might as well add a 3rd setting for suppressed.
I had a similar experience but it wouldn’t run all ammo suppressed in setting 1 for me. I had to run 7.62 on setting 2 suppressed. But I agree they should have said 7.62 for setting 3 and 308 for setting 2. In the end I think the 4 settings was a bit too aggressive and I would have appreciated 6 or 7 settings, but in the end I have 15 when I changed to a different gas block!
Sent in my 16" SFAR after 160 rounds and incurring failure to extract at times that became FTE every time and ripping off the rim of the case. Came back from Ruger with a new "Barrel Group" & BCG...ok whatever Barrel Group means/includes. Anyway, keep running it and no problems for several magazines, then about magazine 5 (~100rds) FTE again and no bolt hold open when loading a single round. The second round of FTEs became consistent, happening after every shot fired.
Back to Ruger, who runs 60 rounds through it no problem.... awesome, I am now a liar. Ok, maybe some carbon was stuck in the gas system, whatever. Back to the range and it is running reliably on setting 2 for factory loads (store bought Aguila, Hornady, Federal, Sig Sauer) and my hand loads (168 Sierra TMK 43.0g Varget & 147 FMJ 50.0g CFE 223), ok good. It will run suppressed (forgot setting, sorry) with the 4 mentioned factory loads, but will NOT run on either of my hand loads. I supposed this is to be expected on a Gen 1 AR10 style rifle, but for the price and the 6.8lbs, my “know better” went out the window…. lesson learned…maybe. It’s fun to shoot now that it’s reliable (w/o my can) but a big letdown that it will only run suppressed with factory loads. Maybe in time it will loosen up, but with 400 rounds on the new barrel, I am thinking probably not.
Have you tried going up in pressure on your reloads ? This thing expects full power. If you are shooting lower pressure for fun with a can, I suspect it would have problems. Have you shot on setting 2 with the can? When I had problems on setting 1, it ran on setting 2. You are not a liar. I heard from them and they run 308 federal ammo. I suspect any deviation from that load and we get our issues.
@@triggerbarPhD On my 2nd round of FTEs, it was short stroking every time, so you maybe on to something with upping the reloads. The 43.3g for my 168TMK group so well on my built .308 (1/2" groups @ 100yds w/4fps SD) I don't have the heart to chase something better, though Hodgdon shows 45.0C, so I could go a bit higher, but it shoots/cycles like a dream on my built .308 so there's that; hard to change a great load for a back up-non-precision "play rifle" when it runs so good on my precision build. My 50.0g for my 147FMJ (Armscor, I think) are just bay rounds, for a red dot setup, so I could go up to 51.5 according to Hodgdon with a 150g bullet selection. I have tried all the settings 1,2.3, up the river and back down it and my hand loads are a no go. I am a curious cat, so I think I'll bump up the charge on a small batch for both Varget and CFE223 loads to see if that does it....thanks for the suggestion.
@@nickel8664 that’s really interesting. Would love to hear how it goes. Also have you checked the OAL difference between what runs and your factory loads? That was the problem with my hand loads. They are too long (they were purpose built for my bolt action so that makes sense). I’m sure you’ve checked this and sounds like your other rifle is an AR so maybe this is nothing but thought I’d throw it out…
What size spring is it? The buffer tube seems just a bit longer than carbine, but not as long as rifle. And my thought was a less power spring simply because the rifle SLAMS shut. Almost like the spring is pushing way too hard. That would also cause failures to feed. Like the bolt is out running the magazine. Just a thought I had.
I’ve tried carbine length ones. In particular I’ve run a braided Geisele buffer spring with h, 2 and 3 springs. On setting 3 I could get all ammo running but not on setting 2. I think this time is going to try a aero precision adjustable gas block and just get something different for the settings in between 2 and 3.
@@triggerbarPhD We have the same ideas with the Aero precision gas block. I don't do youtube, but I'll let you know if I find any permanent fixes.
@triggerbarPhD also, I pulled my carbine spring from an AR15 and the one in the SFAR is obviously longer. That's why I asked what spring length you've tried.
It's just not worth it. It's a shame too. I'm sure it can be done right... but not this time around. Oh well.
Hopefully improvements are made and the lightweight ar 10 idea can live.
Thanks for all the testing! Thats alot of ammo! Reload time!👊👊👊👍👍👍
Ahhahaha. Yah I think you are right!
Thanks for the video. I was excited about this gun, not now. Ok, now time for Turks live lol
@@Steve-rc2jm see you soon!
It can be done right. POF has been doing the light AR 10 for a few years. But it will cost you a lot more than the Ruger. I guess you get what you pay for
Thats funny, Ruger told me the same exact responses that you quoted..... just sent my SFAR back for the second time.....UGH
Ugh. Man I hope it runs better. I suspect they are setting it to run on federal 308 loads and nothing else.
Good luck! Bought one around thanksgiving, it had a very crooked buffer tube. Sent it in, came back with a slightly less crooked buffer tube. Went over the whole thing with a borescope and was shocked by what I found. I detailed all the problems and sent it back in. They gave me a brand new one. It had a very crooked buffer tube along with a few other issues and blemishes. I sent it in. They gave me a refund. Apparently they can’t guarantee a properly built sfar
@@danprice3603 ouch!!! Wow that’s awful!
I had high hopes for the SFAR. Glad I didn't buy one
I'm actually surprised mine runs great. I do wish had alternative parts available that proprietary though my only issue
I think you dodged a bullet... so to speak... ;-)
Looks like it is working properly, they aren't going to send you just a bolt because there's always a chance it won't headspace. Brass looks fine too maybe a sharp edge on one ejector.
Do they do the same thing with their ar-15 models? Just curious.
@@triggerbarPhD pretty sure the AR15 is just a regular AR15 and you can grab a bolt anywhere. Headspace check is up to you, most of the time they're fine but sometimes you can have issues.
@@bpc701 yah i guess since their l’s is proprietary and not some mail-spec, but at the same time if these are mass produced, and they make all the parts…you’d think it would be drop in. 🤷♂️
4:00 stops talking and actually shoots. Your welcome
Doing the Lord’s work right there.
Well, at least 308 ammo is cheap...Oh wait...
Exactly!!!!!
@@triggerbarPhD Really frustrating. I had a similar process with a Mossberg 930. They said it needed to “break-in” with 200 full power loads, which also weren’t cheap. Well that didn’t work out. I ended up sending it in and they had to replace the receiver, which they said was “out of spec”. To add insult to injury when they sent it back they didn’t tighten the mag tube all the way and I ended up breaking a part on the gun which they ended up sending me. It does run flawlessly now but I definitely spent more time and money than I would have liked getting it running.
@@michaelhill6451 that’s so frustrating. Theses companies should be fixing the guns and sending us ammo!!
@@triggerbarPhDI am currently having issues with a Bergara B-14 HMR in 308. It won’t group under 1 MOA with premium factory ammo or hand loads. I sent it back to Bergara, they shot two 3-shot groups through it and sent it back to me without doing anything to it or even telling me the were sending it. I was away on vacation and had to pay UPS to hold it so it wouldn’t be returned to sender. Meanwhile, I have a Tikka CTR that shot under 0.5 MOA (on average) for 5-shot groups from the start and with pretty much every load feed it. 😂 I’ve been trying to get it to shoot for over a year but Bergara thinks the accuracy of their “Hunting/Match” rifle is just fine. I wouldn’t be upset if they didn’t claim it was a “match” rifle. Anyway, I think the biggest problem with these companies is that they assume their end-users are morons. I’m a Mechanical Engineer. If I can’t get your rifle to shoot, you done f*cked up.
@@michaelhill6451 exactly. That’s really frustrating. They should tell you what ammo and how they got it to group. It is maddening that they don’t take care of what they ship out!
It’s seems a bit undergassed to me..
Yah that’s the tricky thing with this. With the older gas regulator it was way over gassed, it now seems a bit under gassed. I just think having only 4 gas settings was too little for this rifle.
@@triggerbarPhD yeah I agree. I’ve got the 20 inch version but luckily for me it runs great except for it being a little over gassed.
Yah, one setting like 2.5 and 1.75…lol. I’m getting the aero precision gas block and going to try that to see if I can find a setting I like.
I ran 800 rounds through mine before I changed the gas settings. The only symptom I got during that duration was a few bolt hold failures.
@@blakezhuko3906 that’s great!
Just get a .338 Lapua and you will forget all about this.
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Hahahaha right!!
You are a Patient Man! I would have launched it down the range!
Hahaha lol. There have been a couple of times I’ve been ready to do that! Glad to see you back online again. Was getting worried about you!
@@triggerbarPhD I’ve just Been super busy with work.
This rifle is absolute crap...I've wasted so much money on it w prolly 600rnd thru it...its ab to go back to ruger for a 3rd time...first 2 times it wouldnt cycle now it cycles ok...had a few ftf but now im having bolt lug deformation...i told them first 2 times i was scared headspace wasnt right bc it didnt easily extract live chambered rounds
That totally sucks. And I hear you on it being a money pit. I put so much into ammo in testing this thing to see if I could get it to function properly. So frustrating!!! I’m so sorry to hear that. Are you going to ask for your money back on the rifle?
@@triggerbarPhD I did ask for my money back the 2nd time and the ladt said they wont do it bc I bought it from a store then I said "what ab all the ammo are you going to reimburse me" when it wouldn't cycle at all and her reply was "no"
@garrettpittman7374 that sucks. I’ve heard of others getting their money back after sending it back so many times. I’d keep pushing on that and/or a full replacement. They warranty their product…
@@triggerbarPhD yea apparently I'm the only one that hasn't been happy w customer service...when I asked for my money back or a whole new rifle that should have been it. Dont make me take the same peice of junk back over and over again
I hear you on that. That is not right. You aren’t the only one who has gotten upset with them! Another guy had to keep sending it back but they eventually got a refund so fingers crossed!!
Yeah... just dump it!.. unfortunately
yup, that's where I'm at.
3 people = 1%
After all I have seen, I will recuse myself of buying a SFAR. Thank you for your test and time.... and lots of ammo
Thanks my friend! And wise decision!!
I have this same rifle, but the 20" barrel version. I have not experienced ANY of these "common issues" that you, an everybody else is experiencing. I have about 500rds through mine. I will say this, when I first got my rifle, it was dry as a bone, ☠️ on the inside, that would definitely cause failure to feed/eject rds. I had to lube mine up. I haven't had any issues, knock on wood!🪵🤞
Yah it likes a lot of lube. What ammo have you been using?
@@triggerbarPhD
Federal Gold Medal Sierra Matchking
.308 Win. 168gr.
@@triggerbarPhD
Pretty accurate rifle! I'm definitely pleased with mine! 😁
@@mr.fancypants698 yes that’s fantastic!!
My 20” is doing pretty good. I’ve got about 100 rds through it now with less than a handful of malfunctions. Bolt didn’t lock back couple times and didn’t pick up the next rd once. All 3 of those malfunctions were within the first 60 rds for me. I do want to show you a picture and get your opinion about something I noticed happened to one of the rds on my last range trip though. Do you have instagram? I can do you.
I do have instagram. @trigerbarphd. I haven’t posted there yet but I have it! Hahahaha
@@triggerbarPhD I couldn’t find your account.
@@AllThingsLoud_ instagram.com/trigerbarphd?igshid=MmIzYWVlNDQ5Yg==
@@AllThingsLoud_ ugh. Looks like my spelling issues strike again. I miss spelled trigger on instagram… 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
.308 is hotter than 7.62x51mm.
Yes, if I said that I’m sorry. Didn’t catch I misspoke that.