Hey! - This video was referenced in Red Hook's recent interview with Destructoid! According to Chris and Tyler, "The community, as a whole, is very very smart, and very energetic and creative and so it’s just really fun to see what they do." They felt the video "was amazing!...well produced, and he got some stuff right…and he got some stuff totally wrong." Anxious to see exactly what we did get right and totally wrong here moving forward! Here's the full interview: www.destructoid.com/darkest-dungeon-s-creators-tell-us-what-it-s-really-like-to-go-to-gdc-546954.phtml?.it&
@@Kirokill1 Really? That's rare, out across pretty much every comment section i've only read words of praise for the soundtrack. Out of curiosity, can i ask why you didn't like it?
@@lucapiemonti3584 It's music so I'm not sure how to really describe it. Maybe me not being a fan of the instruments used, or the fact that it's all gloomy. Yes the game is gloomy, which might be something I'm not really fond of. In general, I found it to be very generic and hearing became stale pretty quick, making me completely disable it.
If the Leper can survive the horrors of the Darkest Dungeon no illness can kill him.... Yet at least. Remember: Slowly, gently, that's how a life is taken
“Darkest Dungeon 2 is a game about enduring a gruelling journey, not cleaning up your backyard.” The ancestor already used that trick on us not doing it again
I seem to recall that a few months ago Red Hook put out a job posting for "someone with 3d modelling experience". If not for the characters then this could be for the world.
@@legion999 having 3D characters does not necessarily mean that the 2D art is lost. If the Kamera is locked and limited angles on the characters are allowed a 2D-Look is very much doable with 3D characters, while also having the advantage that animating a 3D model is much easier and results in much more varied and fluid movement. Even if they keep the 2D view 3D models can be used, you just see them only from the side xD
Could be that they just wanted to cut costs, making a 3D model and doing slight changes to the puppet and camera positions to settle on a definitive piece costs less than redrawing every single piece by hand multiple times, then the 2D artist can eventually draw over it so you can still end up with just drawn art in the final game.
I wonder if there are any characters who canonically died in dd1. In terms of story reynauld and dismas make sense, but since we see a highwayman in the trailer I don't think we'll lose any classes we had in dd1.
I wouldn’t mind if we lost some old classes as long as we get more new classes, maybe ones that suit the location more like mountaineers or archaeologists researching whatever evil lives down under that mountain.
This is great news! Darkest Dungeon was an instant hit with me and now we get to do it all over again but bigger and better. I can't wait to see what the game improvements are.
I think there's good reason to suspect torchlight's importance to be expanded upon for sure. It's the centerpiece of this teaser and Wayne directly references "the flame" with a snow-capped backdrop. *scratches chin*
Hmm... How about this? You always start with 10 torch for early, 20 for normal, 30 legen dungeon. Then you can go through halls while finding some thing you can melt to either get item or open shortcut or avoid a single encounter (with scout ability that can tell you what comp you are facing). So you either have choice to safely go through dungeon warmly or burn torches to get treasures or secret path in exchange for facing crit monsters that thrive in coldness. Also, we could a mechanic where a really strong elite monster roam a map and ambush the party that are walking around too slow due to low torch coldness, with option to outrun him on sight with high torch.
I do think it will be using a Karavan. Maybe it will use a system like Xcom 2, where you actually have to travel from place to place. Maybe there could even be a sort of ambush mechanic, where monsters ambush your Karavan as you travel.
I believe that since the horrors that the ancestor unleashed upon the world are loose now, we’ll see a vast difference in characters that all have been affected by the eldritch horrors. I wouldn’t doubt we’d see a cosmetic change with leveling up and see different things on characters that have seen or experienced different problems in the dungeons. Finally I feel like food will be a major key now, since we’re set in a desolate location, food hunting or farming will be a big thing, now we’ll have to be careful with just spamming food to regen our heroes, it could be a difference between life and death of the party.
Glory to Red Hook, and the modders. I am but a humble console player (I don't have a PC ;w;) but watching & learning what the modders have done has kept me interested and made me go (•0• alot. I sucked at D1, kicked my ass, but I got good on "normal" mode. Only took me +600 weeks to avenge my ancestors and bring peace to my family name. But looks like we're going on another adventure again. I await to see what horrors await us this time. And I appreciate you Element 5 :,3 you have satisfied my appetite for Darkest Dungeon stuff for a good while, if I could I'd build you a monument like The Red Hook in D1. It wouldn't do anything but it'd show my devotion (hope that doesn't sound weird) But I can't wait see what'll happen next X3
Even though red hook set the bar so high in first game, I have no doubt they'll be able to create a game even more enjoyable (or painful) than the last
DD was one game that really did work in EA because they released each area almost episodically. It was great to see the game progress. They can do the same for each stage of the Journey. Looking forward to this.
they wanted to make a pg 13 lovecraftian movie HAHAHAHA.i respect guillermo del toro for leaving that project I really hope they add 6 party. if they do you cant really have them stand one behind the other
@@matijasantosantunes3235 i really dislike parties of 4 or less, its waaay to limiting when one is almost always a healer of some kind. 5 is the bare minimum and id much rather prefer 6-8 so you can really use some of the weirder classes
I'm guessing we are going to scale the mountain to relight the sun. I know DD's mythology doesn't have any mountains reaching the sun (given the nature of the planet), but it strikes me as fitting to the theme. A mountain to ascend and a light to carry to the top. The trailer even has the torch fire line up with the top of the mountain.
I expect some sort of cold meter alongside the darkness system. Probably both tied to torchlight. Maybe dark run will carry the additional risk of frostbite as well as higher stress. Maybe only in whatever is equivalent to the darkest dungeon fights
So a base camp instead of a hamlet. Not just that but the chance that as you progress the camp might move up the mountain with you. And using alien artifacts instead of heirlooms. Sounds good to me.
As long as Wayne June is the narrator, I am more than happy. Seriously, that man's voice is so good I am 60% convinced that he's from an ascended realm.
legit he is sooooo goood. in some games I get annoyed after hearing lines a million times but I still haven't turned it down. all of his quotes are great and perfectly delivered
Right! Incoming wall of text: On the subject of shoggoths: I always figured that was a shoggoth in the intro cinematic of DD1. It's a gigantic, amorphous blob-like thing with maddeningly twisted facial features that confronts an expedition delving into ancient architecture. On their release strategy: you had me panicing when you said they'd be going the "EA way", my dude! Then I realized you meant early access XD On the subject of the Mountain: thinking back on the first game, I'm not surprised the devs are upping the ante with a distinctly Everest-like mountain. In the first game, the entrance to the Darkest Dungeon itself is located at the highest peak on the map, which is only accessible after you've cleared enough missions in the other horrendous locales. The whole thing is a metaphorical climb up a mountain, as well as a literal climb, too- although whether or not a "stoic perch above the moor" counts as a mountain is up for debate. The symbolism is still there, regardless. And as this is the sequel, it makes sense that there'll be a bigger mountain- both metaphorically and literally. Also, I'm wondering if the mountain itself is called "The End" in-universe- that phrase is mentioned in the trailer in a way that makes it sound rather prominent. Many, many people have died trying to surmount Everest in real life- it'd make sense if the Darkest Dungeon world's Everest analogue was even more deadly, if not outright claiming the lives every single explorer that's ever tried to climb it. On the subject of locations outside the Hamlet Estate: I've got a few theories on how it'll work, with all but one building on your whole caravan/base camp setup you mentioned. My first functional theory was that it was going to be set up similarly to the first game- the mountain as the central region where you'd send off the expeditions to. But of course, a colossal snowy mountain range won't have the same variety of environments like the first game did- it's really difficult to make snowy mountains diverse and interesting. So I thought that maybe rather than places in and around the mountain, it'll be locations in the regions around the mountain. In real life, Everest is bordered by a few different countries, so I figured you'd be travelling in a circuit through the countries around the mountain, venturing into different places there to do battle with supernatural threats. Through that, you'd earn supplies, good will, and other resources to help build up for a final expedition to take care of whatever ultimate threat lies in the mountain. But then I thought that was both too limiting and ill-fitting. I mean, does it make sense that you'd recruit your Hellion, Leper, and Highwayman from Bangladesh? Your Plague Doctor, Man-at-arms, or Grave Robbers from Bhutan? Yes yes, I know that the setting is supposed to be ambiguously old-timey, so England would have a presence in most of those regions- but that's a bit of a stretch. No, I figured that something else would fit the setup better: the historical Silk Road. It'd fit in with the ambiguous time of the setting, allows for recruitment of classes new and old (and modded), and provides a new framework for the journey. Rather than a caravan circuit through the few countries that border the mountain, your goal is to make your way from the Hamlet, through the various land and sea routes of the Silk Road (or whatever it will be named within the game's world), eventually to your ultimate goal of an expedition up the mountain. But, seeing as this is Darkest Dungeon we're talking about, it won't be a simple point A to point B journey. You'd face setbacks, obstacles, events, monsters- all manner of hiccups on your way through various countries and their various laws. I can't even imagine what kinds of regions will be featured, or even what kinds of monsters they'd used. i wouldn't be surprised if Red Hook leaned even more on procedurally-generated environments- and depending on how that'd be executed, it could make the environments more generic than in DD1, but it'd make sense if you're going to be fighting horrors all over the old world. My final theory on how the setting layout will be is rather similar to the first. When seeing the trailer and the potential prominence of a big snowy mountain in the game, I of course wondered how the hell that was going to work in a DD game. Then I realized oh, it's probably something deep in the mountain- like how the Darkest Dungeon was deep underground. And that got me wondering if for this game they might do a Journey to the Centre of the Earth sorta thing. To oversimplify the novel, a team of explorers go into a snowy volcano, find a vast prehistoric biome with dinosaurs, a vast subterranean ocean, and other spectacles both awe-inspiring and terrifying; then make it out another volcano somewhere else on the planet. I can see Red Hook taking that idea and going full-on horror with it. You have a base camp which you build up and improve with currency and resources, not dissimilar from restoring the Hamlet. From there, you make expeditions out to various parts of the mountain: frozen ruins on the mountain not unlike in the images in the video here; the humid, hazardous jungles deep under the mountain where you fight dinosaurs twisted and mutated similarly to the Shrieker or that one Shambler in the Darkest Dungeon; a colossal underground lake/sea/ocean with architecture and enemies not unlike those that were in the Cove; all the while facing off against cannibalistic cavemen who've come to worship the fetal cosmic horror within our planet, functioning similarly to the scores of cultists you faced in all locales in the first game. I realize that's pulling from Jules Verne, not Lovecraft, but Jules Verne did include elements of horror into his sci-fi. Or maybe that might be the end game- like how the Darkest Dungeon was split into 4 parts. I have no idea what Red Hook's going to do- but I know for sure that it's going to be brutal, stress-inducing fun. On the subject of improved, potentially 3D graphics: one of the chief reasons I love DD so much is that it's not very demanding, specs-wise. I've got a laptop that's a couple years old that's more for generic use- it's definitely NOT made for gaming. DD and all my mods run just fine on it. I know this is kinda shitty to say, but I hope DD2 isn't too much of a step up from DD1. I want to be able to play it and all the amazing mods. All that being said, bigger parties with row-based combat would be very cool- more abilities being thrown around, more tactical flexibility. On the subject of what I'd want to see in the sequel: Just like you said E, I'm hoping improved weapons and gear changes the character models to make them look more badass. I'd also love to see all the classes come back, along with some new ones- particularly new healers and stress-healers for added variety and flexibility. I'd also like to see new bosses and the ability to re-fight them. I'd also like to see more roaming mini-bosses- the Collector and Thing from the Stars get rather boring after a while, the Fanatic becomes practically irrelevant after finishing the Courtyard, and you don't get to fight the Shrieker nearly enough. As well, it'd be cool to see some, if not all, the bosses from DD1 make a revamped return for the new combat system. Along with all these new big bad things to kill, it'd be nice to have incentives to repeatedly fight them, specifically more trinkets and quirks to get, e.g. you manage to kill the Prophet, your Man-at-arms now has the Gift of Prophecy quirk, making it so that when he's in your party, he'll give Evasion buffs to members about to be targeted by enemies. Last, but very much not least, I'd like to see Red Hook continue to support, or at the very least be cool with, all the modding. DD1's lifespan, like Skyrim's and Fallout's, has been dramatically prolonged thanks to the avid community that's sprung up around it.
now there can be seen a pine forest to the right in the teaser, and you know what would be cool about it? if it was a region similiar to the weald and if that forest was the homeland to Vvulf and his brigand army
This trailer is the only thing about DD2 on Red Hook’s channel at the moment, and it was uploaded 2 days ago, more or less I think we’ll have plenty of time to purchase/finish DD until we get a second trailer
The thing I'd like to see the most in a DD sequel is a shift more towards actual roguelike gameplay. I felt that nothing in Darkest Dungeon had actual consequences for my game: Afflictions weren't permanent, deseases and quirks could be easily removed and the death of a character was just a minor setback, as I could always retrain a new one (at least in the unmodded game). For a potential sequel, I would love to see them get rid of the hamlet micro management and focus more on the actual adventuring part. Maybe extend the reward system by adding actual equipment drops in addition to the trinkets. I like the "pros vs. cons" design of trinkets. Definitely keep that. But they could make armor and weapon upgrades actual loot instead of upgrades. I would also love for them to implement some of the more popular modded classes, like the Lamia. One cool extra feature I'd like was improved UI and controls so that the game is actually playable on a controller. I'd love to play this on my couch, but the controller control scheme is horrible.
Suggestion: since we are traveling from the hamlet. It would be fun to have 6 or more in the party, but you can only get in a mission with 4. And the others are gonna to set up camp. Therefore you can have a chain of missions, but you are limiting to only chose from the starring 6 characters. I think this would be quite cool and it would add additional complexity and difficulty.
darkest dungeon isnt BASED on the works of H.P.Lovecraft, just draws a couple inspirations. they actually confirmed in an interview that their intention was never to base a game off the H.P.Lovecraft lore.
You know while i like the idea of using the Mountain's of Madness i do hope we have some varying environments like we did with the first Darkest Dungeon.
One thing I was pondering was hiding quirks from player - it probably would help players to attach more to characters since you have to pay attention to what they excel at - and which are kleptomaniacs. As well as make more skins for different heroes, so you can get more variation. Especially if it is more about journey (/caravan)... I can only guess about if they'll mix up gameloop and how much.
It is definitely an interesting idea. The Banner Saga has a caravan-type thing going, so maybe it will be similar to that. Aesthetic changes to characters as they gained new weapons and armour was something I wanted in DD, so to see it in DD2 will be cool. Maybe quirks could also have visual effects, and that could act as a way of seeing what quirks a character has.
If you look closely at eh mountain before the torch obscures it It's actually a collection of Damned Souls like faces made to form a body that is hidden under a snow-covered cloak that looks like a mountain.
I'm so hyped about this new DD game, and thinking a little bit I have some ideas For example, the game can be formed in 4 stages or scenes you can play; the main mountain, two other mountains lower tan the main one and a stage of a village. By this you can start in the Village stage, where like in the first game you can do various things like buying equipment for the heroes and that, decreasing the stress in then and all of that. In the first 2-3 hours you will do some missions for the people of the village, by doing this you gain their confidence and more and more you start to hear about the dangers of the mountain, where the "local man ruins everything" of this game have go to that place and did something so the monsters in the mountain sometimes attack the village. . The random events obviously will happen, but it will have a calendar that have important dates where a event will happen 100%, a ritual in the village that make that the monsters don't attack in a while so you can be safe of going on adventure and expeditions to the mountain without the risk of coming back and find how some villagers die and every service is closed for days. In the village you can do some management of resources, more that heirlooms to upgrade services, you can make barricades to prevent attacks in the village, see when a storm is coming and making the city more advanced and all of that. Now the heroes that don't come to an expeditions can be useful in the village, ones you finish a expedition to anywhere there can be a chance where randoms events will happen while the heroes of the expeditions where out, a little bit of role play where for example the owner of the taverns need helps by moving barrels of bears, so you can do that with the heroes that are presents in the village it have to get a minimum of combined stats, in this case can be attack, if the heroes you select have the actual amount required of that stats combined you can do that shore, gain a little bit of extra gold but maybe a heroe may have drink the liquor or bear in the storage, so he is drunk af and can't do shit till the other day. Weather mechanic, some days is sunny and without a little of air, and other days you freeze to the core and every heroes have a debuff that the attack lowers for example. You can know when or what is going to be the weather, by upgrading a technology so you can have a weather machine, or a hero like a religious character like that can talk with some spirits or god's and depending of how good the character is, it can say with no doubt that today is going to be a nice day, know you can say "why I would like to upgrade that weather machine if a have this character that is so powerful and never fails?" where by having those to options one complement the other, having a full coverage of the weather, maybe you see that the machine says nothing bad is going to happen in the next hours but when you are in the expeditions the hero tells you that is you do certain thing will make the gods be angry and will fuck you up with a storm, and it will say how soon that would happen. In the mountains you can go free roaming, not like you select like 4 or 5 scenarios, you go to the mountains in search of places you can get in and explore a dungeon, a lost camp, bodies and thinks like that down the snow and this elements will be randomly placed in over the mountains (with this I mean is random placed on every new game and with random loot once you finish it) The mountains have different high levels, lest say that you have a level 5 Leper in the village that you need to get it on the main mountain in the 6 high level, if you take it there like immediately this hero will have a negative buff where it stats will decrease significantly, so this to not happen it maybe will have like consume objects where this negative buff happen and it will be like nothing, but if you don't you will have every 2 high level make a camp, stop and make the character to be acclimate to the high and the cold, then you can continue climbing. Maybe by this you can have differents groups of character in the mountain going in a path, some in a dungeons, others going for loot in abandoned camps and survive from starving and cold (by this I think it will be cool if you can make the characters to have coats for the cold and maybe gave the characters different armour and weapons to change their main mechanic and have a more complex or deep way to make the team and strategy)
I believe it's more about having to go through a journey or voyage rather than having to do missions and return back to the hamlet. Think of it as oregon trail and darkest dungeon having a love child.
Things I hope for: an increased roster for both characters and monsters ... DD1 was 4 vs 4, I want DD2 to be 5 vs 7 ... yes, give the monsters the numbers advantage. One more environmental effect to worry about other than just darkness/light per stage ... adverse conditions such as cold, stench or undergrowth should be interesting. For combats, I hope to see one of the seven squares occupied by obstacles ... perhaps as simple as destructible boulders or tables giving cover to the enemy behind them. Lastly, add more optional sidequests and unusual goals within each adventure location, so as to avoid any chance of monotony ... shamblers & collectors need more friends.
I liked the cosmic horror genre that i fell in love with this game. I played darkest dungoen 1 excitingly, but some people gave me a disappointment saying that the sequel will not come out. But on Februry 19 this year, Darkest dungeon2's teaser was revealed. I'm so glad that the sequel to my favorite game come out. i'm really grateful to you for getting to konw darkest dungeon2's inmformation. thank you
Sorry for the essay.. Maybe it's just me but I'm cautiously optimistic. I adore Darkest Dungeon and it's my second most played game on Steam and I have faith that Red Hook will smash it out of the park with DD2 but I can't help but think "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Of course I want more of my favourite game and for the story to continue but I'm not entirely sure what to think at the moment. Managing a growing games development team can be very difficult and I wish Red Hook the best in their development cycle.
Looking forward to this Personally I would like to see some sort of conflict outside of player vs Dungeon. Multiple factions that invade and take over territory or affect the different areas in some capacity
I think.. Like.. I want to see a canonic comic of darkest dungeon. Where they tell the events from the game in another perspective like dismas see how the flagellant came at the state, plague doctor and leper talk about the new shieldbreaker... Or somethings like that... maybe something to keep in mind what happened to the heroes after dd1 (who died, who left and! Who remain after the events)
I'd like to see the Musketeer be an actual class this time and not just a re-skin Also, my idea for a class I call the Oracle would be pretty cool I feel. She's an attractive and mysterious gypsy-ish looking woman with a crystal ball and a stiletto blade. Her thematic and her move-set are built around clarevoyance (to buff and de-stress your party), psychedelic herbs (heals & buffs/damage & debuffs), and what some rumor to be parlor tricks and mockery of the simple-minded (although others believe it to be delving too deep into the mystical nature of the abyss). Her offensive abilities include stiletto stab (an armor piercing attack with substantial bleed damage), a drug bomb (uses a sprinkling of gun powder to accelerate vapors into the whole enemy party, causing each of them small blight damage and a debuff to speed/acc/dodge), and lightning shock (huge damage range with high crit chance, resulting in underwhelming fizzles, explosive burst damage, and everywhere in between).
would love to see different locals in DD2 like maybe exploring the sewers of London fighting cultists, to fighting through an ancient lost city fighting ancient eldritch horror. The idea of travelling over the world and just trying to survive the journey is pretty appealing. It would be cool to see maybe the party members develop bonds while in camp, maybe if you send 2 people on the same missions a lot they could develop a bond and when one of them dies it causes the surviving member to suffer a large hit of stress. In addition, they could receive buffs or debuffs when they are together or apart.
A couple things Seems sad we won't have crusader in dd2 Also I used to think the hamlet was the only corrupt place, turns out it's actually safer there!
My speculation that would kind of create this adventure aspect of the game, would be to have different base camps, and in order to move characters from one base camp to another, they would have to do a dungeon, and you could have different routes and different base camps that twist and combine together. So instead of managing the Hamlet you would have to move supplies and party members between camps, possibly getting upgrades later that automate things more allowing you to traverse further up the mountain.
Does no one like the crusader? Had to stop watching at 4 mins cause I'd love to experience the redhook retelling. Was waiting for e5's video as soon as I saw the trailer
the 3d artist might actually be for the alien part of DD2. from what i could see in other games 2d in Lovecraft's setting, creatures like MiGo for example are rendered as 3d models to give them more alien and unfamiliar look. i for one, would absolutely love that approach
Nope, actually. These are some of the amazing custom enemies attached to the new version of Marvin's Falconer! - ua-cam.com/video/rgCbO5a-9YI/v-deo.html
There’s a Mod on the Workshop that adds a Mountain dungeon with a Frostbite mechanic and enemies like Yeti’s and Tribal Cultists. It’s pretty cool and might give you a look into what DD2 could feature as mechanics and possible enemis.
The party system might work similar to Dragon Quest. You can have a dozen or so party members (like in DD1), but you can only take x amount away from your camp at a time. It might even be like This War of Mine, where you have to decide who sleeps and keeps watch while you're away.
I think the biggest thing I could see change while still retaining the gameplay is making levels and areas and story more linear. Instead of being able to go to any dungeon area at any time, there might be more story progression in which you have to progress through an area mostly or completely before you can get to the next area and part of the story.
Out of all the characters that they left out of the title shot, the Vestal, the iconic healer of the game, was not shown. Mayhaps it is because healing is more based outside of combat? Or perhaps, health has become to precious a commodity for a character to simply create it.
I’m guessing a “At the mountains of madness” thing y’know? Maybe more lore of the ancestors dealings with the eldritch and unknown like maybe more cosmic and lovecraftian themes? Oh damn maybe some flying polyps too? Either a type of caravan or a different place the ancestor owned? Since they had a massive amount of riches it would make sense that he owned numerous places across areas of supernatural importance
@@InstantDecon he returned to that accursed and broken place, incomprehensible and intangible. The light far out of reach in the deepest most unholy crevices of the maker's long beating heart at the center of all the corruption and chaos that has plagued the estate...
I hope they'll not change the anmimation to make it more "modern" as you say because i like the way it pops and slow down when you attack (i don't know ify ou get me). Like you press the button to attakc ,you choose your target and then PAOUW you see the critical strikes with thi little slow effect with low anmation it makes the game even more impactfull when you attack. so yes there are some improvement to make but i thik this thing is quite cool , so i think keepeing it and just adjusting some effects could be cool , but i really hope they'll keep this . EDIT: i also want darkest dungeon 2 to KEEP absolutly the madness and stress mechanic because all the ambience , the story , the narrator, the graphics, the enemies , the heroes, i mean everytning is perfect to match with that mechanis and it make the story just more beautiful i hope they'll keep it
Okay so I just read mountains of madness and even though I`m late to this party just hear me out. They say your gonna get a glimpse of the spreading stain of the darkest dungeon and in mountains of madness a unnamable evil lurks in the city past the mountains. So what if you travel from the hamlet with 1 clue and try to find the reason for the evil still remaining. Saving some towns you learn of the evil lurking in the snowy mountains of madness. So you fight your way there and try to find and kill/banish whatever is still corrupting people world wide. With this the game will be very different but also not. Dungeon runs trying to clear a path to the boss is replaced by a system where you try to kill people who are destroying the current town ending with a boss battle or a grueling massacre in the streets. The game could even play more like x-com with this by having a larger fight/explore area. You would have to manage a caravan group so that you can travel to find the evil. Could be fun and even more punishing and rewarding.
I agree. It's beautifully done and it's a platform which allowed for the modding community to become what is has and, in some cases, be the life blood of this game over the years. You can imagine there's a good amount of concern that RH will try to 'fix something that isn't broken.'
The only thing I can can add is I would *really* love mod support for console players like myself, its much cheaper (and makes more sense) for me to pay $5-$10 for a character mod or a boss mod, dungeon mod etc than going out, buying a PC or laptop because even a cheap one that can play games is going to be $100 or up, and then making a steam account *then* buying the game for a second time. Red Hook I love your game and I love your company, if you would in your heart of hearts and ElementFive if you have anyway to contact Red Hook please share my woes, I want to continue to support the game
I'm hopeful but nervous. I love Darkest Dungeon, but in my experience, anything truly unique and interesting in the gaming industry will get watered down and simplified to appeal to the largest group possible, becoming a victim of its own success. I want it to be great, but I'm going to be biting my nails until it's released.
I think we might see a much bigger game in dd2. I don’t buy that it will be focused only in the cold mountains, as to me, that sounds like just changing the back yard. Perhaps we will have multiple expeditions with certain heroes only available in certain expeditions, and, instead of upgrading the hamlet, you have to upgrade each individual little expedition. One in the mountains for sure, but perhaps we’ll still see one in the sprawling warrens and ruins of the old estate, maybe we’ll also see one from wherever the shield breaker hails.
I feel like that the backgrounds, areas, foregrounds, really anything that ha to do with the landscape, will be three-dimensional, whilst keeping the characters, enemies and interactilbes two-dimensional, thus giving a sort of pop-up book effect, which would definitely make vast snowy landscapes seem even larger and more barren, caves and more depth and feel, and structures and (hopefully) bosses have that much more grotesque detail. This is just what I expect what with the 3D landscape designer.
Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet. However, if you look closely at the mountain in the center. You can see a bunch of creatures and faces in the mountain itself.
They could do things like unifying how information is displayed. Like the resistances, for instance, are not actually a percentage. Otherwise, 100% resistance would be total immunity. But it doesn't, which means it's actually just a compared number.
I'd love it if in the sequel they make it so there is no modding limit that eventually destroys your game. Yet gameplay wise I'd love to see classes have more flexible builds (Melee Vestal anyone?), for there to be no direct counters to your heroes ("Whelp they are all immune to bleeding. Guess your useless Lepper"), and for certain roles to be more numerous so you feel less beholden to, say, a Man-At-Arms if you want a good defensive frontliner or Vestal/Occultist if you want a dedicated healer (Yeah I know there was SOME wiggle room, but you know what I mean).
Darkest Dungeon is one of the very few games where I actually like their mods as a whole. Most mods are created with the intention of being the most special snowflake of them all and as such things like balance or thematic consistency mean absolutely nothing... Certainly there are broken classes in Darkest Dungeon and some that just a hodgepodge of ideas... but there are so many things that might as well be official expansion content!
Hey! - This video was referenced in Red Hook's recent interview with Destructoid! According to Chris and Tyler, "The community, as a whole, is very very smart, and very energetic and creative and so it’s just really fun to see what they do." They felt the video "was amazing!...well produced, and he got some stuff right…and he got some stuff totally wrong."
Anxious to see exactly what we did get right and totally wrong here moving forward!
Here's the full interview: www.destructoid.com/darkest-dungeon-s-creators-tell-us-what-it-s-really-like-to-go-to-gdc-546954.phtml?.it&
What we should expect is a brilliant confluence of skill and purpose.
Amazing video, man.
They said you got some things right on the spot and some stuff totally wrong... Well done, it just let me more curious
DD1 > DD2 and it isnt even close
Ruin has come to my wallet.
It took "a decisive pummeling!"
polyhistor it became vestigial, useless.
How quickly the money turns!
Missing Texture1 Same! Like I bought the first one so recently... I'm not even done with it
"Do you remember our money? Numerous and clean, permitting us to buy everything we needed"
Darkest Dungeon 2 is announced
Me: !Yes!
It will have the same composer for the music and the same narrator
Me: *!YES!*
Might be an unpopular opinion. But the soundtrack was the worst thing I've ever heard imo.
@@Kirokill1 Really? That's rare, out across pretty much every comment section i've only read words of praise for the soundtrack.
Out of curiosity, can i ask why you didn't like it?
@@lucapiemonti3584 It's music so I'm not sure how to really describe it. Maybe me not being a fan of the instruments used, or the fact that it's all gloomy. Yes the game is gloomy, which might be something I'm not really fond of.
In general, I found it to be very generic and hearing became stale pretty quick, making me completely disable it.
@@Kirokill1 I see.
Thanks for bothering to respond to my random question. =)
@@lucapiemonti3584 My life really is missing excitement.
I'm actually happy to know the leper hasn't fallen apart yet.
If the Leper can survive the horrors of the Darkest Dungeon no illness can kill him.... Yet at least.
Remember: Slowly, gently, that's how a life is taken
Meh, he's too pissed to die. Just keep some needles and thread on you at all times, and stitch his bits back on, and he'll be fine.
Who says it's the same leper?
i'm kinda worried for reynauld, kinda expect him not to be death
"He's calling for the Sticky Tape."
I hope they will keep "easy to mod".
Modding is one thing that keep this game alive for so long.
Not the only thing, but one of the big contributors to keeping the game alive and popular
Bless those modders for all the extra experiences in DD1
Pitch Black dungeon is a whole New game, the modders are awesome
Without mods i properly will uninstall the game after killing the Heart.
Anime big tiddies mod shines brightest in the backdrop of despair
“Darkest Dungeon 2 is a game about enduring a gruelling journey, not cleaning up your backyard.”
The ancestor already used that trick on us not doing it again
Local man ruins everything 2
the meme never dies
Electric Bongaloo
Now With more Cthulhu
Vacation edition
electric boogaloo
Oh boy, I can hardly wait for this games collection of rocks and books to give syphilis to ALL my heroes!
I seem to recall that a few months ago Red Hook put out a job posting for "someone with 3d modelling experience". If not for the characters then this could be for the world.
It had better not be for the characters. The 2d art was impeccable.
I'm imagining it might be for the landscape.
Perhaps 2,5D, for the enviroment, backgrounds, whatever?
@@legion999 having 3D characters does not necessarily mean that the 2D art is lost. If the Kamera is locked and limited angles on the characters are allowed a 2D-Look is very much doable with 3D characters, while also having the advantage that animating a 3D model is much easier and results in much more varied and fluid movement. Even if they keep the 2D view 3D models can be used, you just see them only from the side xD
Could be that they just wanted to cut costs, making a 3D model and doing slight changes to the puppet and camera positions to settle on a definitive piece costs less than redrawing every single piece by hand multiple times, then the 2D artist can eventually draw over it so you can still end up with just drawn art in the final game.
I wonder if there are any characters who canonically died in dd1. In terms of story reynauld and dismas make sense, but since we see a highwayman in the trailer I don't think we'll lose any classes we had in dd1.
Reynauld is just stealing some shit from the Hamlet.
I think the Musketeer is the more likely to have died
Reynauld died, bro
*looks at come unto your maker*
I wouldn’t mind if we lost some old classes as long as we get more new classes, maybe ones that suit the location more like mountaineers or archaeologists researching whatever evil lives down under that mountain.
Dismas: "Oh shit. Here we go again..."
Reynauld: "NON NOBIS DOMINE!!!"
😂 yep! Reynald and Dismas are definitely ready, I just hope they are the same first.
Isn't that Baldwin in the preview though?
Reynauld - MORE LOOT TO STEAL
Are we sure thats a “mountain”,
But not a big big creature?
Silly Seeker Of Truth.
The whole PLANET is a big big creature.
Now go back to bed and don't think about the nightmares to come.
0:10 the top of the mountain in the sky
There's something in there
@@Señor-Donjusticia u mean earth _Chan?
*chanting in a cultist robe* Her bosoms shelter us! Her cuteness nourishes!
A... “great old one”
This is great news! Darkest Dungeon was an instant hit with me and now we get to do it all over again but bigger and better. I can't wait to see what the game improvements are.
Instead of Darkness your party will be handicaped if your torch is too low due to the cold. However i wonder how the higher reward will work.
I think there's good reason to suspect torchlight's importance to be expanded upon for sure. It's the centerpiece of this teaser and Wayne directly references "the flame" with a snow-capped backdrop.
*scratches chin*
Direct damage if low flame, perhaps
Idk why I think they may add even freezing to death if torch or heat is kept low for too long.
Then that'd mean no more torchless run which were very satisfaying to pull off. They'd have to add something else that's high risk/high reward
Hmm... How about this? You always start with 10 torch for early, 20 for normal, 30 legen dungeon. Then you can go through halls while finding some thing you can melt to either get item or open shortcut or avoid a single encounter (with scout ability that can tell you what comp you are facing). So you either have choice to safely go through dungeon warmly or burn torches to get treasures or secret path in exchange for facing crit monsters that thrive in coldness. Also, we could a mechanic where a really strong elite monster roam a map and ambush the party that are walking around too slow due to low torch coldness, with option to outrun him on sight with high torch.
I do think it will be using a Karavan. Maybe it will use a system like Xcom 2, where you actually have to travel from place to place. Maybe there could even be a sort of ambush mechanic, where monsters ambush your Karavan as you travel.
a xcom like darkest dungeon would be beyond amazing
I hope we get more of our meat- eh, I mean "heroes" some gunslingers, besides our Highwayman and Musketeer. Maybe something like a gerandiar.
@@CTC41392 Maybe a sniper
*caravan
That trailer, chills, every, single, time.
I believe that since the horrors that the ancestor unleashed upon the world are loose now, we’ll see a vast difference in characters that all have been affected by the eldritch horrors. I wouldn’t doubt we’d see a cosmetic change with leveling up and see different things on characters that have seen or experienced different problems in the dungeons. Finally I feel like food will be a major key now, since we’re set in a desolate location, food hunting or farming will be a big thing, now we’ll have to be careful with just spamming food to regen our heroes, it could be a difference between life and death of the party.
Glory to Red Hook, and the modders. I am but a humble console player (I don't have a PC ;w;) but watching & learning what the modders have done has kept me interested and made me go (•0• alot.
I sucked at D1, kicked my ass, but I got good on "normal" mode. Only took me +600 weeks to avenge my ancestors and bring peace to my family name. But looks like we're going on another adventure again.
I await to see what horrors await us this time.
And I appreciate you Element 5 :,3 you have satisfied my appetite for Darkest Dungeon stuff for a good while, if I could I'd build you a monument like The Red Hook in D1. It wouldn't do anything but it'd show my devotion (hope that doesn't sound weird)
But I can't wait see what'll happen next X3
I don't care who I will be fighting against, I will still deus vult every enemy I see until my overconfidence kills me.
A slow and insidious killer.
Slow
In the name of god
Even though red hook set the bar so high in first game, I have no doubt they'll be able to create a game even more enjoyable (or painful) than the last
DD was one game that really did work in EA because they released each area almost episodically. It was great to see the game progress.
They can do the same for each stage of the Journey. Looking forward to this.
The Lovecraftian also fits to the Cathulu like skeleton you can see on the mountain in the teaser video
Its the mountain of madness, thats obvious inspiration
*C'thulhu
*Meowthulhu
I believe you mean: "Darkest Dungeon 2: What 2 Expect"
(Sorry I had to. Love your content btw!)
they wanted to make a pg 13 lovecraftian movie HAHAHAHA.i respect guillermo del toro for leaving that project
I really hope they add 6 party. if they do you cant really have them stand one behind the other
You think it would work to have 4 active and 2 in reserve which you can swap out? 🤔
@@matijasantosantunes3235 i really dislike parties of 4 or less, its waaay to limiting when one is almost always a healer of some kind. 5 is the bare minimum and id much rather prefer 6-8 so you can really use some of the weirder classes
I'm guessing we are going to scale the mountain to relight the sun. I know DD's mythology doesn't have any mountains reaching the sun (given the nature of the planet), but it strikes me as fitting to the theme. A mountain to ascend and a light to carry to the top. The trailer even has the torch fire line up with the top of the mountain.
This is a great theory. I think it has a very good chance of being right on the money given the line about hope.
Maybe they'll change the darkness to the cold? Cause although the mountaintop is bright, it's cold will chip away at any who dare climb it
I hope it gets tons of modding support.. better mod limit too.
I expect some sort of cold meter alongside the darkness system. Probably both tied to torchlight. Maybe dark run will carry the additional risk of frostbite as well as higher stress.
Maybe only in whatever is equivalent to the darkest dungeon fights
You make my heart jump when you said "they are a big fan of the EA modal" cause you know EA is a bad game company but it was just early access.
Early Access is arguably as bad lol, at least if it's not done right. I'm sure they will though
@@HavocGaming7 they did darkest dungeon 1 early access right so shouldn't be a problem
Shoggoths, please.
The game is perfect, and a second part will be better!
*Continue the onslaught! Destroy! Them! ALL!*
Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
People who buried the game when corpses were added:
A r e y o u s u r e a b o u t d a t?
So a base camp instead of a hamlet. Not just that but the chance that as you progress the camp might move up the mountain with you. And using alien artifacts instead of heirlooms. Sounds good to me.
I wonder why they didn’t put a Crusader in the trailer seeing that Reynauld and Dismas are the first characters the player meets.
What I expect -> Insanity, rage, despair, loss, accomplishment, strategy, and... "RINGING EARS, BLURRY VISION, THE END APPROACHES REEEEEEEE"
As long as Wayne June is the narrator, I am more than happy.
Seriously, that man's voice is so good I am 60% convinced that he's from an ascended realm.
legit he is sooooo goood.
in some games I get annoyed after hearing lines a million times but I still haven't turned it down.
all of his quotes are great and perfectly delivered
Made better by Stuart Chatwood as the composer.
What to expect of Darkest Dungeon:
A determination of precision and power...
The way you explained Lovecraft and how you tied it with Darkest Dungeon was genuinely entertaining, loved watching this.
What’s the fire of the torch in the trailer remind me of....
Ah yes the sun. A glorious heavenly body. If only I could be so grossly incandescent
Grossly incandescent sounds like something lovecraft would describe an eldritch being.
Right! Incoming wall of text:
On the subject of shoggoths: I always figured that was a shoggoth in the intro cinematic of DD1. It's a gigantic, amorphous blob-like thing with maddeningly twisted facial features that confronts an expedition delving into ancient architecture.
On their release strategy: you had me panicing when you said they'd be going the "EA way", my dude! Then I realized you meant early access XD
On the subject of the Mountain: thinking back on the first game, I'm not surprised the devs are upping the ante with a distinctly Everest-like mountain. In the first game, the entrance to the Darkest Dungeon itself is located at the highest peak on the map, which is only accessible after you've cleared enough missions in the other horrendous locales. The whole thing is a metaphorical climb up a mountain, as well as a literal climb, too- although whether or not a "stoic perch above the moor" counts as a mountain is up for debate. The symbolism is still there, regardless.
And as this is the sequel, it makes sense that there'll be a bigger mountain- both metaphorically and literally. Also, I'm wondering if the mountain itself is called "The End" in-universe- that phrase is mentioned in the trailer in a way that makes it sound rather prominent. Many, many people have died trying to surmount Everest in real life- it'd make sense if the Darkest Dungeon world's Everest analogue was even more deadly, if not outright claiming the lives every single explorer that's ever tried to climb it.
On the subject of locations outside the Hamlet Estate: I've got a few theories on how it'll work, with all but one building on your whole caravan/base camp setup you mentioned.
My first functional theory was that it was going to be set up similarly to the first game- the mountain as the central region where you'd send off the expeditions to. But of course, a colossal snowy mountain range won't have the same variety of environments like the first game did- it's really difficult to make snowy mountains diverse and interesting. So I thought that maybe rather than places in and around the mountain, it'll be locations in the regions around the mountain. In real life, Everest is bordered by a few different countries, so I figured you'd be travelling in a circuit through the countries around the mountain, venturing into different places there to do battle with supernatural threats. Through that, you'd earn supplies, good will, and other resources to help build up for a final expedition to take care of whatever ultimate threat lies in the mountain.
But then I thought that was both too limiting and ill-fitting. I mean, does it make sense that you'd recruit your Hellion, Leper, and Highwayman from Bangladesh? Your Plague Doctor, Man-at-arms, or Grave Robbers from Bhutan? Yes yes, I know that the setting is supposed to be ambiguously old-timey, so England would have a presence in most of those regions- but that's a bit of a stretch. No, I figured that something else would fit the setup better: the historical Silk Road. It'd fit in with the ambiguous time of the setting, allows for recruitment of classes new and old (and modded), and provides a new framework for the journey. Rather than a caravan circuit through the few countries that border the mountain, your goal is to make your way from the Hamlet, through the various land and sea routes of the Silk Road (or whatever it will be named within the game's world), eventually to your ultimate goal of an expedition up the mountain. But, seeing as this is Darkest Dungeon we're talking about, it won't be a simple point A to point B journey. You'd face setbacks, obstacles, events, monsters- all manner of hiccups on your way through various countries and their various laws. I can't even imagine what kinds of regions will be featured, or even what kinds of monsters they'd used. i wouldn't be surprised if Red Hook leaned even more on procedurally-generated environments- and depending on how that'd be executed, it could make the environments more generic than in DD1, but it'd make sense if you're going to be fighting horrors all over the old world.
My final theory on how the setting layout will be is rather similar to the first. When seeing the trailer and the potential prominence of a big snowy mountain in the game, I of course wondered how the hell that was going to work in a DD game. Then I realized oh, it's probably something deep in the mountain- like how the Darkest Dungeon was deep underground. And that got me wondering if for this game they might do a Journey to the Centre of the Earth sorta thing. To oversimplify the novel, a team of explorers go into a snowy volcano, find a vast prehistoric biome with dinosaurs, a vast subterranean ocean, and other spectacles both awe-inspiring and terrifying; then make it out another volcano somewhere else on the planet. I can see Red Hook taking that idea and going full-on horror with it. You have a base camp which you build up and improve with currency and resources, not dissimilar from restoring the Hamlet. From there, you make expeditions out to various parts of the mountain: frozen ruins on the mountain not unlike in the images in the video here; the humid, hazardous jungles deep under the mountain where you fight dinosaurs twisted and mutated similarly to the Shrieker or that one Shambler in the Darkest Dungeon; a colossal underground lake/sea/ocean with architecture and enemies not unlike those that were in the Cove; all the while facing off against cannibalistic cavemen who've come to worship the fetal cosmic horror within our planet, functioning similarly to the scores of cultists you faced in all locales in the first game. I realize that's pulling from Jules Verne, not Lovecraft, but Jules Verne did include elements of horror into his sci-fi.
Or maybe that might be the end game- like how the Darkest Dungeon was split into 4 parts. I have no idea what Red Hook's going to do- but I know for sure that it's going to be brutal, stress-inducing fun.
On the subject of improved, potentially 3D graphics: one of the chief reasons I love DD so much is that it's not very demanding, specs-wise. I've got a laptop that's a couple years old that's more for generic use- it's definitely NOT made for gaming. DD and all my mods run just fine on it. I know this is kinda shitty to say, but I hope DD2 isn't too much of a step up from DD1. I want to be able to play it and all the amazing mods.
All that being said, bigger parties with row-based combat would be very cool- more abilities being thrown around, more tactical flexibility.
On the subject of what I'd want to see in the sequel: Just like you said E, I'm hoping improved weapons and gear changes the character models to make them look more badass. I'd also love to see all the classes come back, along with some new ones- particularly new healers and stress-healers for added variety and flexibility. I'd also like to see new bosses and the ability to re-fight them. I'd also like to see more roaming mini-bosses- the Collector and Thing from the Stars get rather boring after a while, the Fanatic becomes practically irrelevant after finishing the Courtyard, and you don't get to fight the Shrieker nearly enough. As well, it'd be cool to see some, if not all, the bosses from DD1 make a revamped return for the new combat system. Along with all these new big bad things to kill, it'd be nice to have incentives to repeatedly fight them, specifically more trinkets and quirks to get, e.g. you manage to kill the Prophet, your Man-at-arms now has the Gift of Prophecy quirk, making it so that when he's in your party, he'll give Evasion buffs to members about to be targeted by enemies.
Last, but very much not least, I'd like to see Red Hook continue to support, or at the very least be cool with, all the modding. DD1's lifespan, like Skyrim's and Fallout's, has been dramatically prolonged thanks to the avid community that's sprung up around it.
now there can be seen a pine forest to the right in the teaser, and you know what would be cool about it? if it was a region similiar to the weald and if that forest was the homeland to Vvulf and his brigand army
DD2, or should I spell it DDII?
Anyways, it's on its way? I haven't even finish the original DD yet.
Haven't finished it either. I've been playing quite slowly hoping none of my party dies again.
This trailer is the only thing about DD2 on Red Hook’s channel at the moment, and it was uploaded 2 days ago, more or less
I think we’ll have plenty of time to purchase/finish DD until we get a second trailer
Willem
I don’t think RNGsus is on my side lately ;-;
I'll have to beat it on pussy mode or something; Game beats me down Everytime.
The thing I'd like to see the most in a DD sequel is a shift more towards actual roguelike gameplay. I felt that nothing in Darkest Dungeon had actual consequences for my game: Afflictions weren't permanent, deseases and quirks could be easily removed and the death of a character was just a minor setback, as I could always retrain a new one (at least in the unmodded game).
For a potential sequel, I would love to see them get rid of the hamlet micro management and focus more on the actual adventuring part. Maybe extend the reward system by adding actual equipment drops in addition to the trinkets. I like the "pros vs. cons" design of trinkets. Definitely keep that. But they could make armor and weapon upgrades actual loot instead of upgrades.
I would also love for them to implement some of the more popular modded classes, like the Lamia.
One cool extra feature I'd like was improved UI and controls so that the game is actually playable on a controller. I'd love to play this on my couch, but the controller control scheme is horrible.
I no dude
From the trailer alone, I can already see major influences from H.P Lovecrafts "At the Mountains of Madness".
Suggestion: since we are traveling from the hamlet. It would be fun to have 6 or more in the party, but you can only get in a mission with 4. And the others are gonna to set up camp. Therefore you can have a chain of missions, but you are limiting to only chose from the starring 6 characters.
I think this would be quite cool and it would add additional complexity and difficulty.
The fuck no
darkest dungeon isnt BASED on the works of H.P.Lovecraft, just draws a couple inspirations. they actually confirmed in an interview that their intention was never to base a game off the H.P.Lovecraft lore.
You know while i like the idea of using the Mountain's of Madness i do hope we have some varying environments like we did with the first Darkest Dungeon.
6:15 PG13 unnamed evil... Yup, this time it might be a good thing, that it got dropped.
One thing I was pondering was hiding quirks from player - it probably would help players to attach more to characters since you have to pay attention to what they excel at - and which are kleptomaniacs. As well as make more skins for different heroes, so you can get more variation.
Especially if it is more about journey (/caravan)... I can only guess about if they'll mix up gameloop and how much.
It is definitely an interesting idea. The Banner Saga has a caravan-type thing going, so maybe it will be similar to that. Aesthetic changes to characters as they gained new weapons and armour was something I wanted in DD, so to see it in DD2 will be cool. Maybe quirks could also have visual effects, and that could act as a way of seeing what quirks a character has.
If you look closely at eh mountain before the torch obscures it It's actually a collection of Damned Souls like faces made to form a body that is hidden under a snow-covered cloak that looks like a mountain.
I'm so hyped about this new DD game, and thinking a little bit I have some ideas
For example, the game can be formed in 4 stages or scenes you can play; the main mountain, two other mountains lower tan the main one and a stage of a village. By this you can start in the Village stage, where like in the first game you can do various things like buying equipment for the heroes and that, decreasing the stress in then and all of that. In the first 2-3 hours you will do some missions for the people of the village, by doing this you gain their confidence and more and more you start to hear about the dangers of the mountain, where the "local man ruins everything" of this game have go to that place and did something so the monsters in the mountain sometimes attack the village.
. The random events obviously will happen, but it will have a calendar that have important dates where a event will happen 100%, a ritual in the village that make that the monsters don't attack in a while so you can be safe of going on adventure and expeditions to the mountain without the risk of coming back and find how some villagers die and every service is closed for days.
In the village you can do some management of resources, more that heirlooms to upgrade services, you can make barricades to prevent attacks in the village, see when a storm is coming and making the city more advanced and all of that.
Now the heroes that don't come to an expeditions can be useful in the village, ones you finish a expedition to anywhere there can be a chance where randoms events will happen while the heroes of the expeditions where out, a little bit of role play where for example the owner of the taverns need helps by moving barrels of bears, so you can do that with the heroes that are presents in the village it have to get a minimum of combined stats, in this case can be attack, if the heroes you select have the actual amount required of that stats combined you can do that shore, gain a little bit of extra gold but maybe a heroe may have drink the liquor or bear in the storage, so he is drunk af and can't do shit till the other day.
Weather mechanic, some days is sunny and without a little of air, and other days you freeze to the core and every heroes have a debuff that the attack lowers for example. You can know when or what is going to be the weather, by upgrading a technology so you can have a weather machine, or a hero like a religious character like that can talk with some spirits or god's and depending of how good the character is, it can say with no doubt that today is going to be a nice day, know you can say "why I would like to upgrade that weather machine if a have this character that is so powerful and never fails?" where by having those to options one complement the other, having a full coverage of the weather, maybe you see that the machine says nothing bad is going to happen in the next hours but when you are in the expeditions the hero tells you that is you do certain thing will make the gods be angry and will fuck you up with a storm, and it will say how soon that would happen.
In the mountains you can go free roaming, not like you select like 4 or 5 scenarios, you go to the mountains in search of places you can get in and explore a dungeon, a lost camp, bodies and thinks like that down the snow and this elements will be randomly placed in over the mountains (with this I mean is random placed on every new game and with random loot once you finish it)
The mountains have different high levels, lest say that you have a level 5 Leper in the village that you need to get it on the main mountain in the 6 high level, if you take it there like immediately this hero will have a negative buff where it stats will decrease significantly, so this to not happen it maybe will have like consume objects where this negative buff happen and it will be like nothing, but if you don't you will have every 2 high level make a camp, stop and make the character to be acclimate to the high and the cold, then you can continue climbing. Maybe by this you can have differents groups of character in the mountain going in a path, some in a dungeons, others going for loot in abandoned camps and survive from starving and cold (by this I think it will be cool if you can make the characters to have coats for the cold and maybe gave the characters different armour and weapons to change their main mechanic and have a more complex or deep way to make the team and strategy)
I believe it's more about having to go through a journey or voyage rather than having to do missions and return back to the hamlet. Think of it as oregon trail and darkest dungeon having a love child.
I hope that all classes from DD1 will be playable in DD2 including DLC one's - Flagellant and Shield Breaker (especially Shield Breaker).
Things I hope for: an increased roster for both characters and monsters ... DD1 was 4 vs 4, I want DD2 to be 5 vs 7 ... yes, give the monsters the numbers advantage.
One more environmental effect to worry about other than just darkness/light per stage ... adverse conditions such as cold, stench or undergrowth should be interesting.
For combats, I hope to see one of the seven squares occupied by obstacles ... perhaps as simple as destructible boulders or tables giving cover to the enemy behind them.
Lastly, add more optional sidequests and unusual goals within each adventure location, so as to avoid any chance of monotony ... shamblers & collectors need more friends.
Holy, 5 people made DD1, people are amazing. what was it, 2 or 3 people made hollow knight, shits wild
I liked the cosmic horror genre that i fell in love with this game. I played darkest dungoen 1 excitingly, but some people gave me a disappointment saying that the sequel will not come out. But on Februry 19 this year, Darkest dungeon2's teaser was revealed. I'm so glad that the sequel to my favorite game come out. i'm really grateful to you for getting to konw darkest dungeon2's inmformation. thank you
SPOILERS
Makes you wonder who was cannonically killed by Come Unto Thy Maker. Reynauld appears to be missing...
Sorry for the essay..
Maybe it's just me but I'm cautiously optimistic. I adore Darkest Dungeon and it's my second most played game on Steam and I have faith that Red Hook will smash it out of the park with DD2 but I can't help but think "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Of course I want more of my favourite game and for the story to continue but I'm not entirely sure what to think at the moment. Managing a growing games development team can be very difficult and I wish Red Hook the best in their development cycle.
Me: *has nightmares*
Red Hook: _IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE_
This is an underrated comment
Looking forward to this
Personally I would like to see some sort of conflict outside of player vs Dungeon.
Multiple factions that invade and take over territory or affect the different areas in some capacity
I think.. Like.. I want to see a canonic comic of darkest dungeon. Where they tell the events from the game in another perspective like dismas see how the flagellant came at the state, plague doctor and leper talk about the new shieldbreaker... Or somethings like that... maybe something to keep in mind what happened to the heroes after dd1 (who died, who left and! Who remain after the events)
I'd like to see the Musketeer be an actual class this time and not just a re-skin
Also, my idea for a class I call the Oracle would be pretty cool I feel. She's an attractive and mysterious gypsy-ish looking woman with a crystal ball and a stiletto blade. Her thematic and her move-set are built around clarevoyance (to buff and de-stress your party), psychedelic herbs (heals & buffs/damage & debuffs), and what some rumor to be parlor tricks and mockery of the simple-minded (although others believe it to be delving too deep into the mystical nature of the abyss).
Her offensive abilities include stiletto stab (an armor piercing attack with substantial bleed damage), a drug bomb (uses a sprinkling of gun powder to accelerate vapors into the whole enemy party, causing each of them small blight damage and a debuff to speed/acc/dodge), and lightning shock (huge damage range with high crit chance, resulting in underwhelming fizzles, explosive burst damage, and everywhere in between).
Snow ghoul.
Also I like how characters looks no update needed
This makes me want to play Darkest Dungeon 1 again!
would love to see different locals in DD2 like maybe exploring the sewers of London fighting cultists, to fighting through an ancient lost city fighting ancient eldritch horror. The idea of travelling over the world and just trying to survive the journey is pretty appealing. It would be cool to see maybe the party members develop bonds while in camp, maybe if you send 2 people on the same missions a lot they could develop a bond and when one of them dies it causes the surviving member to suffer a large hit of stress. In addition, they could receive buffs or debuffs when they are together or apart.
A couple things
Seems sad we won't have crusader in dd2
Also I used to think the hamlet was the only corrupt place, turns out it's actually safer there!
My speculation that would kind of create this adventure aspect of the game, would be to have different base camps, and in order to move characters from one base camp to another, they would have to do a dungeon, and you could have different routes and different base camps that twist and combine together. So instead of managing the Hamlet you would have to move supplies and party members between camps, possibly getting upgrades later that automate things more allowing you to traverse further up the mountain.
Does no one like the crusader? Had to stop watching at 4 mins cause I'd love to experience the redhook retelling. Was waiting for e5's video as soon as I saw the trailer
How rude of them to show Dismas and not show Reynauld!
Wonder does the mountain house a Cathedral as a dungeon. Given Vestal's backstory... and the brightness of the torch.
the 3d artist might actually be for the alien part of DD2. from what i could see in other games 2d in Lovecraft's setting, creatures like MiGo for example are rendered as 3d models to give them more alien and unfamiliar look. i for one, would absolutely love that approach
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Were you using Monster Variety Project here?
Nope, actually. These are some of the amazing custom enemies attached to the new version of Marvin's Falconer! - ua-cam.com/video/rgCbO5a-9YI/v-deo.html
There’s a Mod on the Workshop that adds a Mountain dungeon with a Frostbite mechanic and enemies like Yeti’s and Tribal Cultists. It’s pretty cool and might give you a look into what DD2 could feature as mechanics and possible enemis.
The party system might work similar to Dragon Quest. You can have a dozen or so party members (like in DD1), but you can only take x amount away from your camp at a time. It might even be like This War of Mine, where you have to decide who sleeps and keeps watch while you're away.
I think the biggest thing I could see change while still retaining the gameplay is making levels and areas and story more linear. Instead of being able to go to any dungeon area at any time, there might be more story progression in which you have to progress through an area mostly or completely before you can get to the next area and part of the story.
Out of all the characters that they left out of the title shot, the Vestal, the iconic healer of the game, was not shown.
Mayhaps it is because healing is more based outside of combat? Or perhaps, health has become to precious a commodity for a character to simply create it.
I’m guessing a “At the mountains of madness” thing y’know? Maybe more lore of the ancestors dealings with the eldritch and unknown like maybe more cosmic and lovecraftian themes?
Oh damn maybe some flying polyps too?
Either a type of caravan or a different place the ancestor owned? Since they had a massive amount of riches it would make sense that he owned numerous places across areas of supernatural importance
Element where's the crusader and Renault?
Reynauld's off whistling at a stack of books, clearly. 👍 -- Seriously tho, good question!
He might have found redemption with his maker
@@InstantDecon he returned to that accursed and broken place, incomprehensible and intangible. The light far out of reach in the deepest most unholy crevices of the maker's long beating heart at the center of all the corruption and chaos that has plagued the estate...
@@andrewhoff8782 stealing every last god damn Legendary or rare Trinket like a Dick
@@voidfields5065 "I'll just take this for myself"
I hope they'll not change the anmimation to make it more "modern" as you say because i like the way it pops and slow down when you attack (i don't know ify ou get me). Like you press the button to attakc ,you choose your target and then PAOUW you see the critical strikes with thi little slow effect with low anmation it makes the game even more impactfull when you attack. so yes there are some improvement to make but i thik this thing is quite cool , so i think keepeing it and just adjusting some effects could be cool , but i really hope they'll keep this .
EDIT: i also want darkest dungeon 2 to KEEP absolutly the madness and stress mechanic because all the ambience , the story , the narrator, the graphics, the enemies , the heroes, i mean everytning is perfect to match with that mechanis and it make the story just more beautiful i hope they'll keep it
Okay so I just read mountains of madness and even though I`m late to this party just hear me out. They say your gonna get a glimpse of the spreading stain of the darkest dungeon and in mountains of madness a unnamable evil lurks in the city past the mountains. So what if you travel from the hamlet with 1 clue and try to find the reason for the evil still remaining. Saving some towns you learn of the evil lurking in the snowy mountains of madness. So you fight your way there and try to find and kill/banish whatever is still corrupting people world wide.
With this the game will be very different but also not. Dungeon runs trying to clear a path to the boss is replaced by a system where you try to kill people who are destroying the current town ending with a boss battle or a grueling massacre in the streets. The game could even play more like x-com with this by having a larger fight/explore area. You would have to manage a caravan group so that you can travel to find the evil. Could be fun and even more punishing and rewarding.
i belive that the 2d style of Darkest Dungeon is almost as charming as Mr Wayne.
I agree. It's beautifully done and it's a platform which allowed for the modding community to become what is has and, in some cases, be the life blood of this game over the years. You can imagine there's a good amount of concern that RH will try to 'fix something that isn't broken.'
I might be looking too deep in it, but they show 6 people in the teaser, I believe this means there will be 6 people in a party instead of 4
Forever_ Ghostjoy was thinking the same thing
Glad I stumbled on your channel. Love DD!
Welcome home, such as it is. ;)
Can someone tell me the name of the gane at 8:00
This would be Deep Sky Derelicts! - store.steampowered.com/app/698640/Deep_Sky_Derelicts/
The only thing I can can add is I would *really* love mod support for console players like myself, its much cheaper (and makes more sense) for me to pay $5-$10 for a character mod or a boss mod, dungeon mod etc than going out, buying a PC or laptop because even a cheap one that can play games is going to be $100 or up, and then making a steam account *then* buying the game for a second time. Red Hook I love your game and I love your company, if you would in your heart of hearts and ElementFive if you have anyway to contact Red Hook please share my woes, I want to continue to support the game
I just came into this game like 1 week ago, now there's a sequel?! I need to finish this game really fast T-T
Welcome home, such as it is. You have plenty of time!
I'm hopeful but nervous. I love Darkest Dungeon, but in my experience, anything truly unique and interesting in the gaming industry will get watered down and simplified to appeal to the largest group possible, becoming a victim of its own success. I want it to be great, but I'm going to be biting my nails until it's released.
There are 7 hero’s in the teaser you can see the occultist off to the far left for a brief second.
I wonder if they would add more modern technology like trains, airplanes and machine guns like the early 1900s.
I think we might see a much bigger game in dd2. I don’t buy that it will be focused only in the cold mountains, as to me, that sounds like just changing the back yard. Perhaps we will have multiple expeditions with certain heroes only available in certain expeditions, and, instead of upgrading the hamlet, you have to upgrade each individual little expedition. One in the mountains for sure, but perhaps we’ll still see one in the sprawling warrens and ruins of the old estate, maybe we’ll also see one from wherever the shield breaker hails.
They might have full animations since the first game had static images kind of like a slide show.
I feel like that the backgrounds, areas, foregrounds, really anything that ha to do with the landscape, will be three-dimensional, whilst keeping the characters, enemies and interactilbes two-dimensional, thus giving a sort of pop-up book effect, which would definitely make vast snowy landscapes seem even larger and more barren, caves and more depth and feel, and structures and (hopefully) bosses have that much more grotesque detail. This is just what I expect what with the 3D landscape designer.
Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet. However, if you look closely at the mountain in the center. You can see a bunch of creatures and faces in the mountain itself.
They could do things like unifying how information is displayed. Like the resistances, for instance, are not actually a percentage. Otherwise, 100% resistance would be total immunity. But it doesn't, which means it's actually just a compared number.
The thrill of the hunt, the promise of payment!
I'd love it if in the sequel they make it so there is no modding limit that eventually destroys your game. Yet gameplay wise I'd love to see classes have more flexible builds (Melee Vestal anyone?), for there to be no direct counters to your heroes ("Whelp they are all immune to bleeding. Guess your useless Lepper"), and for certain roles to be more numerous so you feel less beholden to, say, a Man-At-Arms if you want a good defensive frontliner or Vestal/Occultist if you want a dedicated healer (Yeah I know there was SOME wiggle room, but you know what I mean).
Darkest Dungeon is one of the very few games where I actually like their mods as a whole. Most mods are created with the intention of being the most special snowflake of them all and as such things like balance or thematic consistency mean absolutely nothing... Certainly there are broken classes in Darkest Dungeon and some that just a hodgepodge of ideas... but there are so many things that might as well be official expansion content!
Congrats 8k dude.
Thanks, Tymon!
never fails to amaze me how a community can take a 30 second teaser trailer and turn it into a 20 minute video.
Literally didn't know about the "Chance to Hit" and "Chance to Crit" on the bottom right, when choosing a target for MONTHS. Now I'm better for it.
I am so stoked for this! TAKE MY MONEY