@@Hypagonplease not the better help lol 😂 I stopped watching some aviation UA-camr because he kept advertising for them, despite people telling him about how problematic they are. 😮💨
@@Transberrylemonaid YO ME TOO 😭😭 Mentour Pilot? I commented and discussed the Better Help issue under his videos, but my comments and others were deleted by him. I started watching Green Dot Aviation instead, he's much better hahaha.
A minor quibble. My understanding is that the problem was not with the signals being on the right of the track, but with the density of the fog through the cuttings prior to the accident site, and the fact that Trew was basically suffering from conflict overload, being so consumed with worry about whether he had enough water to get his train to its first booked stop that he had no conscious recollection of looking for or seeing the adverse yellow signals through the fog. The reason that his fireman saw the red was because the train was on a right hand curve and it was normal procedure for him to look out for it, being stationed on the right hand side of the cab. Trew could not actually see that signal in good time under any circumstances, which was precisely one of the weaknesses of visual signal recognition which led to automatic warning systems.
According to the enquiry the fireman was reading the signals as far as the St Johns outer home. From that point the driver should have been able to see the signals, so the fireman turned to firing for the climb up the North Downs, not realising that the fog was so dense that the driver couldn't in fact see them. The only explanation the driver could offer for not asking the signalman to keep looking out was that he had never experienced a signal check at that point, so the problem seems to have been partly psychological. As you say, the driver knew he was going to have to make an unscheduled water stop and he was anxious not to have any further delay. Just too much going on for him to cope with.
Signals that the people driving can’t see. Yellow blends into fog, red at least stands out. I live round here & trains are still all held at stations/before stations/before major points. If you know you are passing a point like that you know to look out (it’s also sensible to keep trains back a bit in case of a broken down train and having to evacuate 10s of 1,000s. Besides, steam engine v little electric car. No chance. If you aren’t from here, you need to look up some of these mammoth junctions on the south side of London. I have no idea how they did it without computers.
@@davidjones332a terrible tragedy the result of multiple problems 😢, a lot of men aren’t good at multitasking as well. It must have been awful to live with that the rest of his life
@@philippal8666 ~ I agree with you wholeheartedly. Seeing the pictures of all of those train tracks going here and there is mind boggling. I'm thankful that these tragedies didn't happen more. Unfortunately, it happened one too many times with this tragedy. I appreciate you sharing information from being a resident of the area. Blessings to you! From Cindy in California U.S.A.
My Dad should have been on this train going back to camp. Fortunately because of the fog in Wolverhampton the trolley buses running behind dad missed his usual train this one and caught the later one. This date was also his wedding day. My mom thought she’d been married and widowed in the same day.
Thank you for the clear account of the sequence of events leading to this accident. I grew up a few miles away in Sydenham and at the time rumours and speculation fanned by local media circulated, mostly inaccurate, one example was that the train on the bridge had fallen onto the trains below, another stated that the signals were semaphore and invisible in the fog. its worth noting that London smog was legendary back then, down to 20 or 30 yards at times.
The accident has attracted ghost stories. In one account a BR bridge inspector was waiting for a 2am bus, when he heard cries for help from above. The inspector phoned the police, and the patrol car officer also heard it but was unperturbed, saying people frequently heard the cries of those trapped in the Lewisham wreckage.
Oh dear! I imagine ghost stories were pretty common afterwards. With 90 deaths the energy of the injured and scared who died would've been strong. I'm not a believer in ghosts, per se, but the energy left behind. I'd love to hear the ghost stories that have come from it. Thank you for sharing. This is pretty interesting.
Oh my goodness. I'm sure many residents know the history of the bridge and the terrible accident that it was involved in. I'm glad it's held up all these years.
As an avid railroad enthusiast, I always enjoy your coverage of rail disasters, but also everything else on your channel. Keep up the good work pal, thanks for giving me something to watch with my coffee every Tuesday morning. ☕️
It should be noted that 34066 was repaired after the incident and withdrawn in Oct 1964. It almost survived into preservation however, another engine was chosen instead due to it being in better condition than Spitfire was. SR Battle of Britain Class No. 21C166/34066 "Spitfire" became one of the few locomotives to be scrapped at the Woodham Brothers.
Early enough to say thank you for the continuous uploads, always such brilliantly high quality content, never missed an upload seemingly since you started. Keep it up
My grandmother was almost on the Hayes train. As she told it, the only reason she wasn't is because she couldn't squeeze into the carriage. She would've been in theast carriage, and she would have died, and my mum, sister, and I wouldn't be here today. We still live in the area, and I regularly get the Hayes train.
I appreciate your consistency! I've subscribed for years and get excited every Tuesday for your newest videos. Your content is superb, your research is thorough, your narrator's voice is perfect, and you're so faithful to us as your audience. You never disappoint. You're #1 in the UA-cam horror field! You surpass them all! With Much Admiration Cindy in California USA
As a former locomotive driver, it was always my co-driver/ foreman to advise me on upcoming signals, I'm from the diesel age, but travelling long end first I needed them to let me know
please talk about the Michigan, North Dakota train wreck at some point. it happened on one of the very last days of ww2, when a troop train on the Great Northern Railroad was stopped due to a hot axle bearing. However, another passenger train, which was poorly scheduled behind the first, didn't see the stopped train ahead and slammed into the last car of the first train, crushing the soldiers to death, with only one survivor who jumped through the window at the last second.
That's not entirely true. The AWS would signal 'warning' to the driver, even if the signal ahead was 'Approach limited' which in layman's terms means 'GO! (but be prepared that the next signal may be to slow down)'. This meant that the AWS warning signal was mostly ignored by drivers, since there was no way for the driver to differentiate between 'STOP' and 'GO!' AWS signals. The system thus became a nuisance, and a liability more than an aid. Though the crown refused to admit it, all analysts seem to agree that it was, if not a major factor, then at least a strong contributing factor in many accidents, as it gave the illusion of protection while instead only increasing frustration and workload.
AWS is still better than nothing though, If a warning had sounded the driver would of told the fireman to watch out for the signals aspect. He would of then seen it was double yellow and known the next was single yellow and the one after that red.
Another tragedy that "could have been prevented". How often it is that the systemic shortcomings of any major accident is precisely due to those who are responsible for designing and implementation of any "upgrades" not being the ones that are actually operating the system. The Minister of Transport ought to be someone who actually takes the train everyday.
I agree 100%! Those people wearing the business suits, sitting in their fancy offices, can't possibly know what's best for the trains if they're not riding them and studying the traveling details. They look at paperwork, numbers, information reported from the staff, but don't see what's going on themselves. You're right. Yet another story about a deadly, tragic, historic (being the worst in England ever), accident that "could've been" avoided.
Signals are placed on the left side as Boababa says but in some cases they would not be visible from a distance due to a curve in the track so they are placed on the right side so they ca be seen from far away. Thats not a problem in Electric Multiple Units but with a steam locomotive needs co operation with the fireman to tell the driver. On this day with limited visibility and his job of stoking the fire, watching the water level, filing the boiler when required it is easy to miss a signal unless he was looking out constantly, no doubt he had looked out between shovelling coal but at a time when there was no signal visible untill he happened to see the red one
@@cedarcam ~ Thank you for your explanation. I appreciate it. As clearly as it was explained in the video, you added more which really helps a lot. Knowing how those trains operated is key. The way the driver and the assistant were positioned made little sense, but I think I get it now. Additionally, there was heavy fog that evening, which made visibility difficult. Regardless of their position. Thank you!
@@cindys.9688 Thank you. I was in signalling maintenance for years, there is a lot more to positioning them than you would think. Today we run many steam charter trains, but these days all locomotives must be fitted with all the modern equipment like AWS, and not so many signals are placed on the right side of the track.
The AWS was actually invented many years before but because the then private railway giants didn't want the expense they left it for the public to pay for when BR came along, like a lot of other things that were too expensive yet could have saved lives.
Feels like a fundamental design flaw -- signals that the driver could not be expected to see at the best of times. And heavy fog isn't the best of times.
I do not think so, but I do not have enough information to say anything. For example, was the government slow in providing money, was there the work force available, and so on.
It would be sad, but the person would have realized he was just one point in this failure and, yes he missed the signals, there were more factors in the accident. He was just a part of disaster.
They were required to make changes to the system according to the report's recommendations. So in a sense they were. But in another sense no one was to blame because it was an accident.
Surely it would be standard practice for the fireman on the right side of the foot plate to look for the signals only visible to him on the righthand side, there had to be some negligence involved both from the signal man and the driver and fireman on the steam train.
Considering the number of passengers and the level of destruction, I'm surprised the number of fatalities wasn't higher. The driver's account was probably confused from shock... although it's also possible he had a head injury?
It was only right the driver was acquitted. The poor man. When you rely on a human as the last line of defense to disaster it becomes almost inevitable. The driver had done his job competently for decades without incident but only needed one bad day when all the other factors cam together for this to happen. It's so typical for organizations to seek a scapegoat so they can hide their own systematic failings.
His videos are always something to look forward to. Do you tune in on Tuesdays, because that's when "Fascinating Horror" is normally uploaded. A new video each Tuesday.🙂
As a rail fan, those streamlined steam engines from the J1 Hudson's up until the diesel engines are the coolest ever built. There's just something about a train wreck, isn't there. You just have to look. Terrible ordeals though. Wooden passenger cars that would telescope into each other. Wooden passenger cars that had actual furnaces in them for heat. Yup. There was always something that was going to go wrong. The number of brake men who lost fingers is astronomical. Just a regular job hazard. I always enjoy these videos. It's informative to hear about other countries'systems, and what caused them to adapt.
It would be cool to see a video about farming related accidents, instead of one big incident, it could be like 3-4 smaller accidents in one video. Huge fan from the USA 🇺🇸
As horrible as it is, we can still learn from an accident, and it's infinitely better than a story about some men who tortured a baby elephant on purpose, for greedy gain, and made her crazy. 😭 You said one of the trains could hold a thousand people? I'm thinking 89 is scary sad, but still better than a thousand. 😳
You would have thought that the emergency breaking system would have been installed in heavily trafficked stations first. I can’t imagine why other places were done before a place like London.
I wonder if the bridge that add to the accident was redesigned? Why put someone on trial because there human. This not like those managers that blocked and locked exits in the grocery store disaster. Thank you and have a good week.
It was replaced with a "temporary" quickly built bridge using the original abutments and some of the original decking...its still there 70+ years later ..
Its Train Protection Warning System (TPWS) that would have prevented this incident, which was introduced after Ladbroke Grove. AWS is more about making the driver alert, so would have helped. AWS is the "wake up driver there's something you need to pay attention too" system and if the driver doesn't acknowledge it in 2.6 seconds the brakes apply. The problem is train drivers cancel AWS so often it can become an automated response so the alarm gets cancelled without the driver being conscious as to why they have cancelled the alarm. TPWS is a system that monitors speed using timing loops, and if the train passes over a loop too fast the brakes go in. And at red signals that speed is 0, so any movement past a red signal will automatically apply the brakes
@starlinguk I've watched the whole video so what's your point? AWS would have LIKELY prevented it but it's TPWS that would have intervened regardless of the drivers actions if passing a red signal.
Well, AWS was in vogue at the time, while TPWS didn't exist, although earlier systems that would have stopped the train did, but still not necessarily early enough to prevent a collision.
Damn it! Adding to the list of things that can kill you! Adverse weather conditions. AKA FOG!!!! W.T.F? ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE ME NOT TO OUTSIDE????!!!?
Also... the roads were subsidized by goverment, without asking them for any profitability. That and the ridiculous plans to purchase crappy diesels and at the same time continuing to build steam locomotives, several of them withdrawn with a long lifespan still remaining was a waste of money. And, of course, the obsession with deficits, but not asking the same to roads.
Been subscribed to you for years and have never heard you ask me to buy VPN or play war thunder... Respect.
Would be fascinating horror to see Raid Shadow Legends or Better Help in the next video
@@Hypagonplease not the better help lol 😂 I stopped watching some aviation UA-camr because he kept advertising for them, despite people telling him about how problematic they are. 😮💨
@@Transberrylemonaid YO ME TOO 😭😭 Mentour Pilot? I commented and discussed the Better Help issue under his videos, but my comments and others were deleted by him. I started watching Green Dot Aviation instead, he's much better hahaha.
A minor quibble. My understanding is that the problem was not with the signals being on the right of the track, but with the density of the fog through the cuttings prior to the accident site, and the fact that Trew was basically suffering from conflict overload, being so consumed with worry about whether he had enough water to get his train to its first booked stop that he had no conscious recollection of looking for or seeing the adverse yellow signals through the fog. The reason that his fireman saw the red was because the train was on a right hand curve and it was normal procedure for him to look out for it, being stationed on the right hand side of the cab. Trew could not actually see that signal in good time under any circumstances, which was precisely one of the weaknesses of visual signal recognition which led to automatic warning systems.
The fireman should have been on the lookout for signals, except for the times he was busy
According to the enquiry the fireman was reading the signals as far as the St Johns outer home. From that point the driver should have been able to see the signals, so the fireman turned to firing for the climb up the North Downs, not realising that the fog was so dense that the driver couldn't in fact see them. The only explanation the driver could offer for not asking the signalman to keep looking out was that he had never experienced a signal check at that point, so the problem seems to have been partly psychological. As you say, the driver knew he was going to have to make an unscheduled water stop and he was anxious not to have any further delay. Just too much going on for him to cope with.
Signals that the people driving can’t see. Yellow blends into fog, red at least stands out.
I live round here & trains are still all held at stations/before stations/before major points. If you know you are passing a point like that you know to look out (it’s also sensible to keep trains back a bit in case of a broken down train and having to evacuate 10s of 1,000s.
Besides, steam engine v little electric car. No chance.
If you aren’t from here, you need to look up some of these mammoth junctions on the south side of London. I have no idea how they did it without computers.
@@davidjones332a terrible tragedy the result of multiple problems 😢, a lot of men aren’t good at multitasking as well. It must have been awful to live with that the rest of his life
@@philippal8666 ~ I agree with you wholeheartedly. Seeing the pictures of all of those train tracks going here and there is mind boggling.
I'm thankful that these tragedies didn't happen more. Unfortunately, it happened one too many times with this tragedy.
I appreciate you sharing information from being a resident of the area.
Blessings to you! From Cindy in California U.S.A.
My Dad should have been on this train going back to camp. Fortunately because of the fog in Wolverhampton the trolley buses running behind dad missed his usual train this one and caught the later one. This date was also his wedding day. My mom thought she’d been married and widowed in the same day.
Wow what a story to tell the grandkids
Oh my goodness! So VERY thankful it turned out the way it did.💚
@@smontone ~ I agree. Definitely a story to pass on forever.❤
Thank you for the clear account of the sequence of events leading to this accident. I grew up a few miles away in Sydenham and at the time rumours and speculation fanned by local media circulated, mostly inaccurate, one example was that the train on the bridge had fallen onto the trains below, another stated that the signals were semaphore and invisible in the fog. its worth noting that London smog was legendary back then, down to 20 or 30 yards at times.
I was wondering how much was actual fog and how much was smog.
The accident has attracted ghost stories. In one account a BR bridge inspector was waiting for a 2am bus, when he heard cries for help from above. The inspector phoned the police, and the patrol car officer also heard it but was unperturbed, saying people frequently heard the cries of those trapped in the Lewisham wreckage.
Oh dear! I imagine ghost stories were pretty common afterwards. With 90 deaths the energy of the injured and scared who died would've been strong.
I'm not a believer in ghosts, per se, but the energy left behind.
I'd love to hear the ghost stories that have come from it.
Thank you for sharing. This is pretty interesting.
The extremely makeshift-looking replacement bridge is still there to this day. A living reminder of what happened nearly 70 years ago
Oh my goodness. I'm sure many residents know the history of the bridge and the terrible accident that it was involved in. I'm glad it's held up all these years.
As an avid railroad enthusiast, I always enjoy your coverage of rail disasters, but also everything else on your channel. Keep up the good work pal, thanks for giving me something to watch with my coffee every Tuesday morning. ☕️
Ah, my daily dose of anxiety regarding being caught in a horrific incident like this!
Love it as always.
I danced with glee
It should be noted that 34066 was repaired after the incident and withdrawn in Oct 1964. It almost survived into preservation however, another engine was chosen instead due to it being in better condition than Spitfire was. SR Battle of Britain Class No. 21C166/34066 "Spitfire" became one of the few locomotives to be scrapped at the Woodham Brothers.
Early enough to say thank you for the continuous uploads, always such brilliantly high quality content, never missed an upload seemingly since you started. Keep it up
Very nicely written! I agree with you 100%!
My grandmother was almost on the Hayes train. As she told it, the only reason she wasn't is because she couldn't squeeze into the carriage. She would've been in theast carriage, and she would have died, and my mum, sister, and I wouldn't be here today. We still live in the area, and I regularly get the Hayes train.
Amazing! So thankful your grandmother couldn't get on the train. I'm sure that's made for a nice family story to share through the years.
“Thomas had never seen such bullshit before”
Mostly because of the fog
"What the f**k just happened?" said The Fat Controller.
"I... ya know?" puffed Thomas.
Thomas is going too be pulling freight trains from now on.
I have fog and snow outside my window, hopefully thre's no trains going past it.
🤣🤣🤣Snow here too, and a lot of it. I'm in Staffordshire. No fog though.
I appreciate your consistency! I've subscribed for years and get excited every Tuesday for your newest videos.
Your content is superb, your research is thorough, your narrator's voice is perfect, and you're so faithful to us as your audience. You never disappoint.
You're #1 in the UA-cam horror field! You surpass them all!
With Much Admiration
Cindy in California USA
As a former locomotive driver, it was always my co-driver/ foreman to advise me on upcoming signals, I'm from the diesel age, but travelling long end first I needed them to let me know
please talk about the Michigan, North Dakota train wreck at some point. it happened on one of the very last days of ww2, when a troop train on the Great Northern Railroad was stopped due to a hot axle bearing. However, another passenger train, which was poorly scheduled behind the first, didn't see the stopped train ahead and slammed into the last car of the first train, crushing the soldiers to death, with only one survivor who jumped through the window at the last second.
I live in lewisham and haven't heard of this story, thanks for everything you do. I find your videos very interesting.
Regularly travelled past the half remaining repaired bridge when travelling from home to London on that line
That's not entirely true.
The AWS would signal 'warning' to the driver, even if the signal ahead was 'Approach limited' which in layman's terms means 'GO! (but be prepared that the next signal may be to slow down)'. This meant that the AWS warning signal was mostly ignored by drivers, since there was no way for the driver to differentiate between 'STOP' and 'GO!' AWS signals. The system thus became a nuisance, and a liability more than an aid.
Though the crown refused to admit it, all analysts seem to agree that it was, if not a major factor, then at least a strong contributing factor in many accidents, as it gave the illusion of protection while instead only increasing frustration and workload.
AWS is still better than nothing though, If a warning had sounded the driver would of told the fireman to watch out for the signals aspect. He would of then seen it was double yellow and known the next was single yellow and the one after that red.
I've been waiting for this one. I used to live in Lewisham and I took the train everyday.
Another tragedy that "could have been prevented". How often it is that the systemic shortcomings of any major accident is precisely due to those who are responsible for designing and implementation of any "upgrades" not being the ones that are actually operating the system. The Minister of Transport ought to be someone who actually takes the train everyday.
I agree 100%! Those people wearing the business suits, sitting in their fancy offices, can't possibly know what's best for the trains if they're not riding them and studying the traveling details.
They look at paperwork, numbers, information reported from the staff, but don't see what's going on themselves.
You're right. Yet another story about a deadly, tragic, historic (being the worst in England ever), accident that "could've been" avoided.
I’m left scratching my head as to why it was standard to have the driver on the side opposite to the signals when operating a steam locomotive
Most signals were actually to the left of the line
Signals are placed on the left side as Boababa says but in some cases they would not be visible from a distance due to a curve in the track so they are placed on the right side so they ca be seen from far away. Thats not a problem in Electric Multiple Units but with a steam locomotive needs co operation with the fireman to tell the driver. On this day with limited visibility and his job of stoking the fire, watching the water level, filing the boiler when required it is easy to miss a signal unless he was looking out constantly, no doubt he had looked out between shovelling coal but at a time when there was no signal visible untill he happened to see the red one
@@cedarcam ~ Thank you for your explanation. I appreciate it. As clearly as it was explained in the video, you added more which really helps a lot.
Knowing how those trains operated is key. The way the driver and the assistant were positioned made little sense, but I think I get it now.
Additionally, there was heavy fog that evening, which made visibility difficult. Regardless of their position.
Thank you!
@@cindys.9688 Thank you. I was in signalling maintenance for years, there is a lot more to positioning them than you would think. Today we run many steam charter trains, but these days all locomotives must be fitted with all the modern equipment like AWS, and not so many signals are placed on the right side of the track.
@@cedarcam I wonder, were the semaphores not easier to see from the deck on the driver's site (in well lit conditions)?
Fascinating Horror now has the most pleasant and upbeat content available on UA-cam in the United States right now.
You're right. Love his content, research, factual information, and his calming voice.
Thank you for sharing!
From Cindy in California.
Trevor in southwestern New York, I watch these videos over dinner mornings after work
As a Yank, I can't believe they used a visual system when London is notoriously foggy...but it was the post-war past
The AWS was actually invented many years before but because the then private railway giants didn't want the expense they left it for the public to pay for when BR came along, like a lot of other things that were too expensive yet could have saved lives.
I grew up in Lewisham, and had never heard about this!
That happens sometimes!
Have you gone around now asking family, friends, neighbors, and workmates about it?
I would!😁
'Trains, delayed, cancellel'. 67 years later.....some things never change
anther added to my "list of things im thankful i wasnt a part of"
Feels like a fundamental design flaw -- signals that the driver could not be expected to see at the best of times. And heavy fog isn't the best of times.
Another great history short story. I always look forward to Tuesday morning because of this channel. Thank you for the great video.
Weird, the first train accident you mentioned was deadlier than the Lewisham one but it is a footnote in the video.
Another avoidable tragedy . Thanks for the video!
I do not think so, but I do not have enough information to say anything. For example, was the government slow in providing money, was there the work force available, and so on.
Please do the Seattle glue pot fire!!! I love your videos :)
Great weather today too...
Imagine being responsible for 90 deaths...😢 idk if I could live with myself
I like your profile pic. It makes a couple of pretty good points.
It would be sad, but the person would have realized he was just one point in this failure and, yes he missed the signals, there were more factors in the accident. He was just a part of disaster.
I'm waiting for the day he does a video on the 1998 Omagh Bombing
If the driver normally stands to the left of the train, putting the signals to the right is not a great idea.
This is my record for being here after a video was posted. Nothing super amazing but I’m secretly proud 😅
of all the comments i've read, this was one of them.
Of course British Rail themselves weren't to blame.... at ALL!???....😮
They were required to make changes to the system according to the report's recommendations. So in a sense they were. But in another sense no one was to blame because it was an accident.
"Trains were delayed, cancelled, or rescheduled." Business as usual then for London rail!
Surely it would be standard practice for the fireman on the right side of the foot plate to look for the signals only visible to him on the righthand side, there had to be some negligence involved both from the signal man and the driver and fireman on the steam train.
Just wanted to say i enjoy your channel.
23 mins late to disaster.. great video
Considering the number of passengers and the level of destruction, I'm surprised the number of fatalities wasn't higher.
The driver's account was probably confused from shock... although it's also possible he had a head injury?
My aunt and uncle's local station was St. Johns. It's a very busy little station still.
Thank you for uploading. Love your always brillant Videos. Greatings from Germany.
It was only right the driver was acquitted. The poor man. When you rely on a human as the last line of defense to disaster it becomes almost inevitable. The driver had done his job competently for decades without incident but only needed one bad day when all the other factors cam together for this to happen. It's so typical for organizations to seek a scapegoat so they can hide their own systematic failings.
A new vid just when I needed one, thanks : )
His videos are always something to look forward to.
Do you tune in on Tuesdays, because that's when "Fascinating Horror" is normally uploaded. A new video each Tuesday.🙂
"Collide in dense fog" my fear also went dense
These days you don't have to worry. At least in the US you have a minimum of in-cab signals to cope high extreme fog.
As a rail fan, those streamlined steam engines from the J1 Hudson's up until the diesel engines are the coolest ever built. There's just something about a train wreck, isn't there. You just have to look. Terrible ordeals though. Wooden passenger cars that would telescope into each other. Wooden passenger cars that had actual furnaces in them for heat. Yup. There was always something that was going to go wrong. The number of brake men who lost fingers is astronomical. Just a regular job hazard. I always enjoy these videos. It's informative to hear about other countries'systems, and what caused them to adapt.
Plainly Difficult is jealous. "TRAINS ARE MY GIG!!!!!"
As bad as it was, imagine if the third train hadn't managed to stop just in time before the collapsed bridge!
Thanks for all your hard work! 💜
the Casey Jones railroad crash in mississippi might be a another rail disaster to cover if you havent already
The way you say "crash" has a rather alluring, cold reverberance to it.
I don't think there were many left-hand-drive cars in Britain at that time, or ever. Where did you get that pic?
AI
@@GarrettsGear Its called a double negative and has been around in photography for as long as it has existed. Way longer than AI 🙂
It would be cool to see a video about farming related accidents, instead of one big incident, it could be like 3-4 smaller accidents in one video. Huge fan from the USA 🇺🇸
Always look forward to a Tuesday morning video by FH
Made my day thank you
As horrible as it is, we can still learn from an accident, and it's infinitely better than a story about some men who tortured a baby elephant on purpose, for greedy gain, and made her crazy. 😭
You said one of the trains could hold a thousand people? I'm thinking 89 is scary sad, but still better than a thousand. 😳
You would have thought that the emergency breaking system would have been installed in heavily trafficked stations first. I can’t imagine why other places were done before a place like London.
The off-sequencing of the trains was already delicate enough a balance. The fog just all but guaranteed that things would go wrong.
I wonder if the bridge that add to the accident was redesigned? Why put someone on trial because there human. This not like those managers that blocked and locked exits in the grocery store disaster. Thank you and have a good week.
It was replaced with a "temporary" quickly built bridge using the original abutments and some of the original decking...its still there 70+ years later ..
1:10 Scammel Scarab
Funky looking thing
You should cover the Great Heck rail crash from 2001, the worst train crash of the 21st Century in the UK so far in terms of fatalities
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Wow, I knew nothing about this and I take that route very often.
I was just looking at your channel last night and wishing you had a new video 😊
Here after 6 mins my record is 4 mins
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I have never been this early. So glad I saw this. 😂😂 bring on the story time
Its Train Protection Warning System (TPWS) that would have prevented this incident, which was introduced after Ladbroke Grove.
AWS is more about making the driver alert, so would have helped. AWS is the "wake up driver there's something you need to pay attention too" system and if the driver doesn't acknowledge it in 2.6 seconds the brakes apply. The problem is train drivers cancel AWS so often it can become an automated response so the alarm gets cancelled without the driver being conscious as to why they have cancelled the alarm.
TPWS is a system that monitors speed using timing loops, and if the train passes over a loop too fast the brakes go in. And at red signals that speed is 0, so any movement past a red signal will automatically apply the brakes
Have you considered actually watching the video?
@starlinguk I've watched the whole video so what's your point? AWS would have LIKELY prevented it but it's TPWS that would have intervened regardless of the drivers actions if passing a red signal.
Well, AWS was in vogue at the time, while TPWS didn't exist, although earlier systems that would have stopped the train did, but still not necessarily early enough to prevent a collision.
Give this American all the awards!
No mention of compensation or a memorial? That's unusual for this kind of accident.
Damn it! Adding to the list of things that can kill you! Adverse weather conditions. AKA FOG!!!! W.T.F?
ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE ME NOT TO OUTSIDE????!!!?
Video request: do the Hinton train collision on February 8th 1986
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Devastating.
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A tragic accident. If only safety devices had been in place.
Also... the roads were subsidized by goverment, without asking them for any profitability. That and the ridiculous plans to purchase crappy diesels and at the same time continuing to build steam locomotives, several of them withdrawn with a long lifespan still remaining was a waste of money. And, of course, the obsession with deficits, but not asking the same to roads.
Granville rail disaster please
I wonder...was the fireman new? Not looking out as standard practise?
That fireman's initials are unfortunate considering his last name.
"Fireman Seedy Wh*re" just isn't very nice. @5:59
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Thomas the outdated tank engine, he should retire.
2 minutes ago... happened to click at the right time
No, Dennis Fogg.
How do we find the music that you use for your videos? I'd love to use it as a ringtone!!
@katrinafitch3534: The music used in the intro and outro of his videos is listed in the video description. I think it's on UA-cam somewhere.
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Welp never riding a train I guess
Then you shouldn't drive either, or get on a plane. Stay safe..
Read that as Lewis Ham...😂
C D Whore!? That is a most unfortunate name.
Many years ago I worked with Evelyn Hoar. Unfortunately, we had a loudspeaker.
Ooft!
Final Destination '57..
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