Recorder player reacts to the HELLCORDER
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- The Hellcorder is a guitar amplifier MADE OF RECORDERS - amazing or the worst thing ver to curse this earth??
(spoiler, I loved it)
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00:00 Intro
00:35 how does it work?
05:15 okay, what does it SOUND like?
08:11 devastated
09:55 how could we improve it, recorder-wise
12:45 the EWI
14:24 what I REALLY think of it
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- a plastic Aulos soprano - I don’t remember the serial number, sorry!
- an EWI 400S electronic wind instrument
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It was fun watching Sarah hyperventilate when he was talking about making the hellcorder polyphonic. I hope they can collaborate. I’m also looking forward to more about the EWI.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that gets giddy by the thought of polyphonic capabillities xD
I simply assumed the Hellrecorder has a MIDI interface and OF COURSE one can play polyphonic. Bummer first tier, but the man can add this pretty easelly.
Anyone who can build a pitch to MIDI converter and a pipe organ and a quiet blower box - massive respect! For the attack, expansion chambers between valves and Peterson valves would make more like a recorder player.
I would love some Peterson valves, but they are a bit pricey for this application :D
Sarah is sooo over the moon for this! She's adorable 🥰
If anyone would get this, it would be Sarah :D
That's totally wonderful. These are the people that lift humanity out of the dumps and elevate us all to the heights of crazy ingenuity. I want to show this to all the politicians and military people and say, "What are you wasting your life for, when you could be doing stuff like this?" The hellcorder! I have my fingers crossed that he's up for a collaboration. And yes, please, Sarah, deepen our knowledge of the EWI. It looks like something that could make those lonely winter nights fly by! 😃🏳🌈
That someone uses "lifting humanity" in a sentence about something I've build is humbling.
Iif I could help world peace, and save the planet, by redirecting some of the world's military budgets I have a few more ideas for future bild projects! :D
@@behindthemistakes We need to get to the point where, instead of doing battle, the generals sit down and play hellcorder at each other. Much less wasteful, and all that.
@@carudatta I agree! That need to happen!
What a great reaction video! The info you provided is fantastic. And I love it when artists think outside the box. Thank you for taking the time to do this!
I agree! Brilliant reaction video AND useful knowledge for further improvement :D
I was wondering if a set up like a cpap machine where (I think) uses an accumulator tank to service a constant, yet variable, pressure. I don't know how it might fit in, but it might help?
This should have a Million Views! Bravo Sarah! 😍
It really should!!!
Around the two-minute mark I paused your video to go watch his and it was a hoot! And I loved your response to it :) I want to see you two collaborate on this you both have an infectious joy for the absurd.
I laughed throughout Sarah's entire video and when you at the end suddenly could see her brain just running with the absurdity of it all and how you could even take it even further I almost fell off my chair xD
I think you have the expected effect of the tape over the windway backwards. When a human blows into a partially occluded windway, we tend to respond without realizing it. But a blowing machine with regulated pressure doesn't do that. Creating a bottleneck at the front of the windway will decrease how much air makes it into the windway per unit of time, which effectively means lower pressure inside the windway and a lower pitch - or appropriate air pressure for lower notes. It's like pinching a garden hose in one spot partway down its length (NOT at the end of the hose) - it doesn't make the water come out of the hose faster, it makes less of it come out because there's a partial blockage.
I'm so glad you made a video about this though, it's a fun and crazy project!!
The valve noise puts me in mind of the keys on a hurdy gurdy clattering which is part of the charm(?) of the instrument.
Ooooh, a Hurdy Gurdy is just begging to be included in a project xD
Wouldn't make sense for his purposes, but would be interesting to see a more pipe organ focused version that includes the larger great bass recorders (even if handmade purely for a single note) and polyphony over a greater range.
I agree, even though it is outside the design brief for this project. I found a guy that cast recorders from recycled plastic and I did play with the thought of reaching out to see if he would be interested in casting 25 single note recorders haha :D Would be fun even to see his reaction on the question :D
From the recorder player perspective, learned a lot about subtleties of the instrument.
Same!
Love to see the enthusiasm and curiosity at work here, crazy ideas are what makes the world a richer place!
It's fun to see that so many is fully onboard with the absurdity of the entire thing :D
Absolutely collaborate!
As a professional flute player, I just want to say that I love that you aren't a stick in the mud as so many classically trained musicians can be.
Haha thanks!
Very much agree! :D
I hope @behindthemistakes sees this video and takes you up on the collab!
Oh he has, and he will :D
Hurrah!
Thank you for this awsome video. As a professional recorder player myself, and a hobby guitarist, i too love the concept of the hellcorder! I would love to see a tutorial on how to use the ewi - and tips on using it both live and in music production projects! Love your channel, keep it up!
Glad you liked the Hellcorder. I also got intrigued by the EWI :D
Amazing! Thanks! FYI: I purchased an Aulos Haka soprano Recorder based upon one of your videos. I’m very pleased with it! Great value for money/sound! 😎
The mad scientist at work, love it. Some serious FFT going on to decode the audio into the recorder note to play. Some form of an attack, decay, sustain, release (ADSR) envelope would do wonders to the sound generated.
Thank you 😊 It needs some improvement and I enjoy all the feedback!
That looks amazing and I look forward to part 2. I'd love to see a video on the EWI.
Oh and once you've got the recorder-to-Hellcorder interface sorted, why not let Jon loose on it as well? What could possibly go wrong?
The "recorder-to-Hellcorder"/EWI was a brilliant idea. Love the way Sarah's brain just instantly went all onboard thinking what would make this even more hilarious! :D
Funny, it wasn't long ago when I watched that video. It was so great to watch this video where you respect this crazy creator of Hellcorder and see the potential. Awesome and odd 😁
I love it when people invent crazy things and I loved to watch you fangirl over it. Please tell us more about the EWI! I'm thinking about buying one.
It's wonderful to see you so happy and exited Sarah Jeffery!
Fun fact (because I am from Brazil)... In Brazil we call the recorder a "sweet flute" (flauta doce) and we call the flute a "transversal flute" (flauta transversa). Took me forever to understand that in US is called a "recorder" :)
In German, when I was growing up, "Rekorder" was the word we used for a cassette player. When I forst heard someone talk about their favorite music instrument being the recorder, I thought they did not actually play a music instrument and were trying to make a joke.
So much excitement. That was totally endearing. And I learned stuff as well. Lovely thanks.
A recorder will do that for you, and when you scale it by 25.....!! xD
I saw the source video when it went live. It is awesome. As a recorder and guitar player, I want one. As an appartment dweller, I will not. 🤣
The other dwellers might need a rodent repeller, who knows....:D
I am sooo excited to see where this project goes. You two belong together!
Me too, 'cause where the project will end up is still somewhat in "the blue" xD
Yes would love to hear more about the EWI! :) 🎉
Thank you Sarah for trying to help improve the Hellcorder. Valuable work for all humanity!
It needs all the help it can get :D
This was amaaaaaazing. I love how excited you got, lol. He needs to see this video so he can properly make it polyphonic!
Also, unrelated, but when you said you had an Aulos, I thought that sounded familiar, so I pulled out my old one from elementary school, and it's also an Aulos! If that's what you have, I guess the five bucks my parents paid for mine back in the early nineties was plenty well worth it, lol.
I agree, the reaction video was amazing! Polyphony is achieved and the video is already in post production (give it a day +/-) :D
Woohoo!!
I'd love to hear more about the EWI. A few years ago I got an EWI for my wife, who plays clarinet and sax. I'm the techie, though, so I had to figure out how to get it working. I was specifically thinking it would be useful in the pit of a musical theatre production, where the reed parts frequently switch between a small number of instruments with different transpositions. The problem is that while you can switch instruments and change transpositions, there doesn't seem to be any way to set up a small number of "patches" so that you can jump quickly between, say, oboe, English horn, Bb clarinet, and tenor saxophone without a lot of fiddling.
You can use a midi foot controller, eg a behringer fcb1010. I have mine set up to send a different program change message on each pedal. You can plug its midi straight into the EWI if using EWI sounds, or into your external sound module or PC if using that.
First time I watched a reactionvideo and enjoyed it! Great!
Is there any chance you'd review the Suzuki Keyboard Recorder? I mean, it's polyphonic...
Hell yeah, I’ve been waiting for this!
To my surprise, a lot of people seems to have 🤣
Oh, mind blown, I want to see that collaboration! Hugs! 🤗
Me too!! :D
Great Device & great Video. Now i want to hear Doen Daphne and the Partita played on it!
There might be a request jukebox video in the near future ;)
The re.corder which you reviewed a few months ago is really good for MIDI and a credible soprano recorder as well. There are absolutely mono sound to MIDI devices (and apps) so: recorder in -> MIDI -> Hellcorder OR MIDI controlled pipe organ. Go for it!
I agree, go for it! 😁
He could have used pennywhistles, "Louder is more good" at least on guitar and it is very easy to get them in lots of different keys, so you can pick the whistle so that each note is a well vented note on the whistle. you could also get 4 or five octaves since they are available in every key from HIGH G to LOW D. (Whistles are diatonic)
That is a good tip, although recorder was a part of the design brief. Might be good for another organ project :)
Oo really getting into homemade uillean pipes territory with that suggestion. Would love to see a drone system worked out if he went in that direction.
Recorders are also diatonic.
Well never saw myself watching a recorder video (I did watch the hellcorder though) but i did enjoy this! That Ewi is very cool and would be sweet to see it run the hellcorder via midi, im sure interested to learn more about the Ewi regardless. Subbed up in hope you do a video on it.
I would love to run a EWI through the Hellcorder :D
I'd really love a video where you just show us all your different weird and wonderful kinds of recorders please!
Wishing you all the best! Hopefully there's a collab!
Thanks for the 'airtight seal' tip. After all these years it's the first time I've heard that 😉
Thanks for the "seal" of approval ;)
What she doesn't mention during that segment is this is at times a desirable effect. It doesn't quite make sense for guitar amplification - maybe as a response to the whammy bar? - but I wonder if a split valve would work for this...
Oh wow. I've had dreams of building myself a small midi pipe organ for years. I think I have the skills, though maybe not the patience to perfect the pipe making. Never thought about using recorders. Going to give this some thought.
I'm with you on that and I would also like to learn how to actually craft my own pipes for another project, but that is a skill that I guess needs a lot of practice :)
Same here. Though there is no shortage of people giving away pipes on facebook or craigslist. So I don't see the advantage to using recorders, though I love this for the novelty value. With MIDI it means you don't have the worry about fussing with a tracker linkage. You can just use a midi keyboard, wired to a simple DE chest, and free old pipes. Thats the "theory" I'm working with... its a project I'm hoping for this summer
I love your channel, and I love my EWI5000! I think that an EWI video would be perfect for this channel. The EWI fingering system for accidentals and octave changes is so intuitive and versatile, in my opinion, that it allows any decent recorder player quick access to six octaves of trumpet, clarinet, saxophone, or any other sounds that he or she desires.
It looks big and cumbersome to hold and operate though.
@@taniacummings9207 Please try holding a baritone sax or a tuba, and then get back to me. The EWI will give you these sounds and more. The EWI is actually incredibly light, and it is more comfortable, in my opinion, than my alto sax or even my clarinet.
@@andriskrumins6052 That's interesting. I am a small, slightly built woman. I am also becoming arthritic in my hands. Not helpful for a pianist/recorder player. It is getting harder to lift and hold things. Often it is not the weight it is just accommodating the size, especially girth. The right hand on the also recorder is challenging some days.
So, if I connect my ukulele to this, I'm gonna be playing hellulele 😄
Actually, I like the attack noise. Sounds like, on top of the music, the machine is making popcorn 🌽
"The Helluele"....I call dibbs! Haha, I also might start calling the solenoid assembly "The Popcorn Maker" :D
Great sense of humor to go along with major thinking 'outside the box.' Very funny guy. Who IS that 'Masked Man' from Norway?
....and still, it's very much a box! "Life is like a box of...recorders?" Not sure that was how the saying went, but it's surely is the holy grail of something...
I think it is also often overlooked that, for example, in an oboe, the hole for the higher register is really tiny, and the air passes around the hard material. That's why I think it's better to use the thumbnail on the higher notes, so that the air doesn't just flow around the soft flesh of the thumb.
Great video Sarah. What ewi have you got. I have the ewi usb that I use with my analog synths.
Wonderful video!!! So much fun!!! Thank you!!
im glad your channel is so big now.. keep it up :)
Yes please give us an EWI tutorial!! I'm a recorder player who recently got an EWI Solo, and I'd love your favorite tips and tricks for applying recorder know-how to making the most of the EWI! Do you use EWI fingering or flute fingering? And why one over the other? I'm having a hard time choosing. The EWI's version of flute fingering seems a little closer to recorder, but does the EWI fingering have advantages?
The EWI fingerings are far more flexible… don’t feel constrained to using the fingerings in the manual… every key changes the note up or down a tone or semitone so you can invent your own fingerings for certain situations. Need to suddenly play in C# major? Hold down the G# key and play in C! I’m an oboist, and found the oboe fingerings confusing as they were close but not close enough. Take the time to practice with the EWI ones, and you’ll soon be able to switch between the two without thinking.
always want a tutorial of you doing what you do. please do a tutorial of that cool midi wind instrument.
I saw the original Hellcorder release. This was what I hoped for. I love all the excitement in this video.
OMG you play EWI too🙀🤯You're great 👍💯
love this and EWI yeah yeah, tell us all about it please
Yes, tell us about the EWI please! :D I know a guy that might see some use for one......
The noise comes of using solenoid valves on each channel. Perhaps building an organ box where each opening would be tailored to the air pressure needed and much quieter linear actuators were used would be the solution? And a better sound to midi card /midi controller for polyphonic sound.
That has surely been thought of, but at this time it has been a price issue :D
Fantastic venture of up to 25 notes/recorders.
Hey Sarah been watching your videos for a few years now I love playing the recorder and I want to start getting into it a lot I’m 13 years old. My favorite recorder to play is the Bassett recorder and the alto. and I’m trying to buy a new Alto recorder. i’m thinking about buying a Yamaha but anyway what do you recommend I do to start getting into playing recorder, professionally one day
I used to own a midi guitar and a Fairlight synth. Playing elephant sounds on the guitar is awesome.
hahaha the sound of that thing cracks me up every time!
More on the EWI please! I picked up a simple one a year ago but I've never quite warmed up to it. The interface is "clacky" for lack of a better term. And it gets really, really wet from spit. Do I really produce that much?!
Which one? 'Cause I "know" someone that might need one (and where the "clacky" thing might just blend in...) 🤣
HIlarious :D I can see though why he thought it was the dumbest idea - usually you put things through the speak to play an wide array of sounds, amplifying them, altering the sound in any number of ways; whereas here anything through the speaker becomes the same one sound - a recorder, and not yet a subtle one. But it's so out there! Polyphonic output absolutely. Wouldn't it be nice if there was some sort of AI involved that could interpret any signals into the mix of not only recorder notes but their respective volumes, approximating the original sound in 'recorder-ese'?
When you mentioned "AI" I got a vision for a sentient Hellcorder..... xD
@@behindthemistakes Haha, wouldn't that be the nightmare! I know you thought this was a relative failure, but not to me.
There are recorders that are more percussive in nature eg paetzold recorders and so those noises give it a different character - a more rhythm and volume-based musical piece would be interesting to hear.
You mentioned the recorders are not tuned, but the plastic ones come with one main position and should be tuned by default, so I wouldn't worry. If it needs tuning you would pull out the head a little further to make the note slightly flatter, in a little to make it sharper.
And plastic would be the only real choice to make. Wooden ones need more care and are more pricey anyway. The plastic sound is louder; when you make that a strength, you can find the right music for it.
Thank you for taking the risks and making the things we would like to see but could only imagine before, great stuff.
@@dirtywashedupsparkle Thank you! Yes, the plastic ones is actually perfect - and the best choice. One might extend the middle piece abit, as you mention, but I think the biggest effect will be to focus on the input side of the flute, like airflow and pressure :)
And as you say, it's all about finding the right music for it :D
It is possible to make the filters that would make it polyphonic. I made something that decoded tones and lit up lights. It would be easy to make the lights drive the switches. The thing I made worked over three octaves.
It's possible, but I believe it needs a fair bit of processing powers since guitar chords are complex (sound vise)
@@behindthemistakes This was a multitone device. It didn't have to deal with the harmonics, but it could work with single tones. It could decode 20 tones at once.
I did it in the 80s with analog filters and in the 90s with DSP.
The spacing between tones was 12.8% and the spacing here is 5.9%. It would be harder, but still possible.
I think that when he said the fan overpowered the recorders, he was not talking about too much air pressure. I think he was talking about the fan noise overpowering the tone(s) generated by the recorders.
Speaking as a former engineer who plays the organ and is only a dilettante when it comes to the recorder, he seems to have made an electropnuematic organ interface that is limited to one tone. It would probably be easier to go "old school" and build trackers to get polyphony but "easier" is a relative term here. This looked like a fascinating project to me. It makes me want to dig out my recorder collection and go out to my workshop to try and cobble something together that interfaced to a keyboard via MIDI but I would definitely need more recorders of all sizes and therein lies the problem. I have not budgeted for a divorce this year and buying all of those recorder would surely generate that outcome.
Yes, he (I) did! The cheap fans I first tested were loud as a 747 trying to take off in syrup - and equally messy! But I totally support you digging out your old recordes and play around with them. MIDI is fun! I also made an alarm cloch that utilizes recorders, which my wife said I could name "The Divorce" if I ever tried it in our room. So all I can say, tread carefully, but it seems you already have thought ahead :D
Pure research doesn't always have to yield useful results. This is a delightful and horrifying invention.
Thank you, and I fully agree! Often it's more about the journey....:)
This was so fun!
It truly was :D
Awesome video!
I'm not sure about a guitar based version, but a zither with a guitar pickup, you could have a wheel on each string to play it, or an Ebow which would be easier but also a lot more expensive, though I guess that would mean no plucking sound, but yes there is a way to do it. Actually theres a robot band where the human has the robots play things he programs with midi. So yes this is possible.
Is this really an amp though? It's not amplifying any sound. It seems more like a recorder organ being controlled by a guitar. Absolutely hilarious and brilliant though!
Electric guitar not plugged in = quiet. Electric guitar plugged in = MUCH noise. Amplified! ;) I see whan you mean though.....but then again, those already exists :D
I have never seen Sarah look quite as excited as she does when he talks about upgrading to a polyphonic version.
The pure childish joy of something completely bonkers! Loved it! :D
I’m a flutist but I enjoy this channel so much!
Me too, and I don't really play ANY wind instruments. Or maybe I do? 25 of them to be exact! ;D
YES for a tuto on the EEEEWEEEEEEEEEE :)
That was a lot of fun to watch.
Any video with her is a fantastic educational experience
I'd love to know how you play the EWI. How do you cope with the blowing compaired to the recorder?
oh my gosh i am so glad you spoke on this
So am I :D
@@behindthemistakes oh my gosh i am so glad you made hellcorder! absurdity rules! thank you, i feel empowered to push my own creative edges.
@@pop_ulation Please do! It's all about the journey, and having fun. The goal will be whatever :D
I've written an essay about EWI, it would be very nice of you to make a video about it, I know it only from a theoretical perspective
Reminds me of Pat Metheny Orchestrion... Great stuff lookin forward to news on this, Cheers!
I just learned who he is and that I need to up my game a few notches ;D
@@behindthemistakes That's great - listening to his music, I often think he knows almost everything about life...
@@derlio2086 He sure looks like one that has thought alot about things :D
Yes - you could most definitely use your E-Wii (or however it's spelled!) to control that via MIDI, assuming he's built a correct MIDI implementation into his unit. As to whether or not you'd be able to play his instrument with microphone from recorder, that will take a bit of matching - the level of a microphone is much, much less than an electric guitar's output (1mV - 10mV, whereas an electric guitar produces about 780mV) so some form of preamplification would be needed to "step up" the mic level to the guitar level. But, definitely a possible.
you always make me want to play recorder!
9:52 „I don’t think it’s the recorder that needs the improvement“ should be my mantra when buying recorders 😅
Sounds like something that needs to be on a T-shirt :D
Yes, I'd like a video about the EWI!
EWI to the people!!!
Thank you!
Oh my thanku so very much I had totally forgotten just how much I miss playing my resume order....
Oh my auto correct has it in for me today I meant Recorder
@@hellenic.h1168 "Order, order, we must resume order"
Help !!! I like baroque and renaissance music and want to start playing recorder. what should I buy as a beginner and what pieces or books should I buy as a beginner I already understand notation and how music works thanks
Is the black and white small angle recorder a soprano recorder?
he's approaching this way differently than I would. I would have it run a FFT of the input signal and tie the amplitudes to the valves. i don't know enough about pneumatics to know whether that's possible though
also it occurs to me that my idea wouldn't work properly unless each recorder is driven by a separate air supply, otherwise when many valves are open each valve will get quieter
FFT is a very interresting route to concider. MIDI was basically the only (cheap) option at the time I strated the project, but as computers has become smaller and cheaper with a lot more processing power, FFT is now a viable contender :)
@@DontMockMySmock Tru, but that is easily(-ish) solvable :)
Yes. Make the guitar speaker. I've thought about this. Since an organ can be controlled to speak in actual words; as long as you have the varying timbre (enough different, possibly very weird guitars) it might work. Run the guitars with e-bows that have enlarged magnets and coils if needed (or just use several of them along the guitar neck). Then of course there's the fret board to contend with. Solonoids (or air pistons, LOL)that hold down strings in version one but even that could be improved. The hardest version of this would involve actual picking and strumming devices to make the attack of the guitar notes hit the 'S's and T's. Enough out of me!
I would love to see a guitar (speaker) controlled by a recorder :D
I watched the hellcorder video not long ago. Now I feel like I'm watching the DVD's special features!
Hmmm, I do think I can find a DVD burner somewhere. Maybe a collector's limited edition DVD, wit commentary would be hilarious 😂
Is there a recorder that's really low and bassy? Like the C you played earlier being the higher note?
You actually get bass recorders (but uncertain it that's their proper name).
I see a trip to Norway coming up! (co-op)
I could also travel the other way. It would be fun to try and bring the Hellcorder with me as "carry-on" xD
EWI TUTORIAL PLEASE
Yes, we need more EWI. I know someone that might "need" one at some point....
A recorder-based organ would probably be nice. I've been wanting to make an airhorn-based organ myself.
I'm pretty sure googling that will give you results (of some kind) xD
Did you check out the flamaphone yet? That is percussion but the air compression in the bottles do give a strangely loud sound that even pdq bach would have stolen I think.
Ooh, now I want to see the Hellfloyt!
It sounds like he's using poppet valves, like a car. Rotary valves would be a lot quieter and give a more gradual attack. With probably a small vent before the valve to prevent bleeding through and playing unplayed recorders.
Good input! :)
I must say that I am tone deaf, have no rhythm, and do not hear very well but this is a very interesting video and lady. I was not aware that a Recorder was a real instrument and here is a person that is obviously very talented and dedicated to that plastic nightmare we were subjected to when we were 10 years old. I will check in with her again. thanks,
Darn. I was hoping he'd play "Free Bird".
Thirteen recorders make a magnificent tiny organ, if you got the mensure spot on. That is, how hard does it blow each recorder? You do not blow them simply through the same size hole or tube. It does not work that way. You need to balance the air pressure, and that is different for all types of organ pipe. THAT is how great organ builders show, that they are better at it than newbies.
Fun fact, in a real organ you have a C-side and a C-sharp half. C, D, E, F#, G# and A# are in a left cabinet, the others in the right cabinet. When you don't do that (or even three cabinets) the neighbour pipes will resonate along with the ones playing. You avoid that, by divorcing the logical neighbours. Got that?
Sarah, what you essentially did @ 11:20 was put a restrictor plate on the windway, if it was a carburettor or fuel injection manifold.
Talladega and recorders. Not a connection I would have imagined 5 minutes ago hahaha. I wonder if a turbocharger would be a good wind source...
👍😁
Do you know of a good explanation of how "la flute" (in French) actually works? Why do you get a note that way or that way?
Check out his recorder alarmclock aswell 😀🎶🎶🎶
Yes, please do! I start to see a pattern of a deeply rooted, subconscious, love for all recorder! :D ua-cam.com/video/gDqcYwlu71Y/v-deo.html
Neat!!!