O. Hit & Run Paleomagnetism ... with Bernie Housen

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  • @katherinehahus3465
    @katherinehahus3465 Рік тому +1

    WATCHED ON MY TV AND NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT THE PICTURE/VIDEO IS SO MUCH CLEARER... AND WITH MY EYESIGHT THAT'S SAYING ALOT... 👍👍👍

  • @snarky_user
    @snarky_user Рік тому +16

    Nick, one of my other interests is genealogy. Following news of Myrl's passing, I went looking for the Beck family in the records and discovered a link between our two lineages.
    This enabled me to flush out a great deal of Myrle's family history and create entries in the world's largest genealogy database. Among the sources attached to Myrl's record are links to the two video interviews that you did with him. So, at least as long as UA-cam links remain stable, he will be memorialized therein.

  • @jasonhuntley9927
    @jasonhuntley9927 Рік тому +1

    What if baby Mt. Stewart didn’t travel in his bassinet all the way up by himself, but the Mother Craton also moved south to collect him?
    Bernie is a great guest. Thanks for making these concepts accessible to us.
    Nick, your UA-cam algorithm is working perfectly. UA-cam keeps suggesting your interviews with Myrl at the exact time you keep bringing it up in the series. This means YT is noticing your viewers also watch those videos at this point in the series and are suggesting them. 👍

  • @joelroberts3743
    @joelroberts3743 Рік тому +2

    Oops, I forgot to add, if IM and Ins were both moving generally NNE and the craton was moving SSW, those terrains will appear to translate quickly if the craton isn't stationary. They naturally were moving in the opposite direction according to paleomagnetics. Thoughts continuing.

  • @mbvoelker8448
    @mbvoelker8448 Рік тому +4

    Speaking for myself, I am content to understand only the broadest brushstrokes of this material and to be able to marvel at the intricacies that others, whose brains function differently than mine, are capable of delving into.
    Our world is fearfully and wonderfully made and to know these things, even superficially, gives me great joy.

  • @sdmike1141
    @sdmike1141 Рік тому +3

    Lost in the weeds…😵, but still with you! Learning hurts! Thanks Nick.

  • @elainejones5109
    @elainejones5109 Рік тому +3

    Absolutely fascinating content. Thanks to you and Dr. Housen for presenting it.

  • @Steviepinhead
    @Steviepinhead Рік тому +1

    I had to head out to visit with my granddaughters partway through, and watch the rest in replay, so I didn't get the opportunity to thank Bernie and Nick for this core, key episode. It's clear that the paleomagnetic data has withstood multiple challenges for over fifty years and cannot simply be dismissed or ignored (at least if the critics want to retain any semblance of conducting science). The paleomagnetic data demands explanation in any hypothesis for the assemblage of the cordillera.

  • @solarwizzo8667
    @solarwizzo8667 Рік тому +4

    Hey Nick, thanks for your thorough introduction to this episode. After the first episode with Bernie I was a bit confused. But your Explanations prior to your second conversation with him brought me on track and I was able to understand almost everything this time. Thanks. Keep on!

  • @yukigatlin9358
    @yukigatlin9358 Рік тому +2

    So, measuring the inclinations of paleomag signatures
    in Granite/pluton reference to the horizontal sedimentary rock, we could calculate the movement of the magnetized rock through time, right?? The studies have found that the discordant paleomag signatures of INS and IM, right?? I might got that much...😁 Thank you so much, Bernie for showing us your field of study!😄✨💛I love to keep on learning for fun!!
    Auto 720p on my laptop, Auto 360p on my Amazon tablet, our TV monitor is capable of 4K... Oh.., I just switched my tablet quality to 1080p!😉 I changed my laptop quality to 1080 also, and I do see the difference!!😘💫💛

  • @lisac5287
    @lisac5287 Рік тому +1

    Catching up!

  • @MrFmiller
    @MrFmiller Рік тому +6

    That was loaded with new information and concepts. Good thing I have been watching from the beginning. I am able to follow along. Bernie has been doing some critical research. I’m excited about the continuing education. Thanks again Nick, and Bernie.

  • @Robert-ys9zy
    @Robert-ys9zy Рік тому +3

    Your after thoughts are very helpful as they spur thoughts of my own. The high point is the scattered paleo- north poles relating to the exotic terrains.

  • @leslie3832
    @leslie3832 Рік тому +2

    Ok, Nick, I will print out and read ALL TEN PAPERS of Myrl’s. Thanks for the reminder. Bless him for all his work. We are so lucky to have seen him. Already have reviewed you recent video with him. RIP.

  • @barbaraburkhardt2448
    @barbaraburkhardt2448 Рік тому +1

    I am an amateur.... your 1:13:00 rant/ comment/ confession on how you absorb information is on point.

  • @leslie3832
    @leslie3832 Рік тому +3

    Thank you, Nick and Bernie. Good job, Bernie! I can’t believe you also head the department at the same time. You are brilliant and very patient. Best of luck

  • @gerardostheimer43
    @gerardostheimer43 Рік тому +1

    Great synthesis NZ. Kudos to Bernie for working people through the underlying physics, chemistry, and geo-chemistry in episodes 1 & 2.

  • @joelroberts3743
    @joelroberts3743 Рік тому +1

    Great show Nick. Thanks to Bernie and to the work of Merl Beck. I'm still thinking mechanically of the rotation of certain blocks. If they were already solid and the terrains are moving dexterally to the craton those solid blocks have to rotate clockwise, just like a ball. The craton is stationary, the terrains are colliding at an angle and then move north, those chunks will rotate clockwise. No other solution other than to stay acreted within the terrain. Just my thoughts.

  • @lauram9478
    @lauram9478 Рік тому +1

    ❤❤ Thanks Guys! I would love to open Meryl's papers, haven't a computer. Just this phone. You are an awesome and excellent guide. I am so appreciative.

  • @johndunne8123
    @johndunne8123 Рік тому +2

    Another brilliant lecture. I am loving how these lectures are building together in addition with the papers into a bigger discussion.
    Keep up the great work nick and team

  • @alicemiller3139
    @alicemiller3139 Рік тому +2

    Another session very hard to grasp, but once again Nick, you give your heart and soul! While I really didn’t understand the last two sessions, you summed it up great! It’s hard because we can see it or feel it! Keep up the excellent teaching! Love ya!

  • @DrPeterDrexel
    @DrPeterDrexel Рік тому +4

    Hi Nick and thanks for your videos. My wife and I watch them regularly. Thank you and please keep them coming.
    You mentioned that you like to tell stories, it has to hang together. It sounds like you might be a concepts-first, systems-oriented person (like me 🙂). I can't imagine trying to fully understand what you teach. It is inherently "infinitely" complex. We study and document what we can see and measure. But, there's noise in the measurements. Always more noise. You "can't" get there but still persist. Amazing.

  • @douglaspohl1827
    @douglaspohl1827 Рік тому +1

    Wonderful presentation. Kudos Nick and Bernie!

  • @beckyd712
    @beckyd712 Рік тому +2

    *Thank you Prof. Nick,, I had to come back for view #2 to try to let more soak in.* (BTW Boerne,TX is pronounced "bernie".) 1080p and you are very crisp and clear! Hey People, don't forget to hit the 👍! Show your appreciation!👍

  • @craigmccue2841
    @craigmccue2841 Рік тому +2

    Thank you Nick and Dr. Housen! Fascinating information even though I don't understand all of it but that's ok. It's all new to me and so interesting and the more I listen and watch, the more I learn.

  • @_Michiel_
    @_Michiel_ Рік тому +1

    Thank you Bernie and Nick for this episode. Things are starting to get clearer now. Excellent job, gentlemen!
    I am looking forward to the next episodes!

  • @CIDDSafety
    @CIDDSafety Рік тому +1

    PALEOMAG IS INTERESTING BUT COMPLICATED FOR US NEOPHYTES. One thing that would help is getting a list of all the variables needing resolution in order to come up with a reliable and acceptable result for the paleoinclination and paleodeclination. If one of your guests could discuss the variables or provide a reference that does list them, that would be very helpful. Thank you.

  • @johncooper4637
    @johncooper4637 Рік тому +1

    I am having to watch this again as I got a phone call that lasted the full episode.

  • @lewdawson
    @lewdawson Рік тому +2

    5:36 pm
    I’m enjoying this series. It’s putting me in Harlin Betz’s boots.

    • @Steviepinhead
      @Steviepinhead Рік тому

      J Harlen Bretz. I know typing can be hard, but it's only respectful to make the effort to spell people's names correctly.

  • @philipallard8026
    @philipallard8026 Рік тому +2

    It’s certainly hard to adjust from using rocks to tell a story while standing at an outcrop to drilling rocks, taking them to the lab doing “magical things” and then placing the rock in time and in space. I’m an old economic geologist and the things I learned early are tough to change. Who ever thought that diamonds would be found in Canada?

  • @davied5496
    @davied5496 Рік тому +2

    Thank you, Nick and Bernie. Very good shows. The explanations on paleomagnetism was excellent and I understand it Much better now. I’ve definitely moved from a six or a seven to an eight or nine. )

  • @101rotarypower
    @101rotarypower Рік тому +1

    Nick, Have been watching in 1080P this entire series, I don’t believe YT setting was “fibbing” to me, and just displaying a 1080P setting. Older series we were limited to 720P in the past.
    I don't see any Improvement on the “premium” melon service in picture quality, IMO.
    The old camera had Much better clarity. This is distinctly noticeable on graphics and maps with text and detail. There is a “Blockiness” to objects moving now, where there was not on the older camera.
    The newer current camera, since we changed to multi view has been pixilated and fuzzier in comparison to the older camera.
    I really liked the clarity of the old camera, but trust Nat has made the change for reasons that are beneficial for the setup.
    My sentiments are, I am just Glad you are here, while I would love a more clear picture, everything has been overall perfectly sufficient , but if that is a detail you might be able to address with Nat at some point, I believe it would aid in picture quality when showing maps and text.

  • @itsandbits1
    @itsandbits1 Рік тому +1

    late in Bernies interview he references a portion on page 6; Nicks Baja BC files, of Mahony's work of Baja BC placement that seems to call into question Mahony's work. The panel referenced is based on "others paleomag data." Mahonys own work using zircon dating in the panels below that and give the true dates for his own work.

  • @timbyrne914
    @timbyrne914 Рік тому +3

    I think I finally get why they use paleopoles. I didn't understand why you wouldn't just use a table or function that associated inclination with latitude and jump right from inclination to latitude. Why reconstruct a paleopole at all if it's latitude you are trying to estimate? I think the answer is that this would lose information contained in the observation, and that the way that the paleopoles cluster tells you more about variance in the data than if you simply looked at paleolatitudes. So when you are using PCA/eigenvector analysis to restore for tilt/folding, you need to use the paleopoles not just the paleolatitudes, and then once you have done all that and have an average paleopole, you finally convert that to latitude.

  • @101rotarypower
    @101rotarypower Рік тому +1

    Thinking to the future, possible to Schedule/Plan something with Brian Atwater for when the weather clears if possible Please? Absolutely adore your collaborations, and learn so many fundamental details that a regular person can physically see, recognise, and appreciate while walking around the PNW.

  • @mechtheist
    @mechtheist Рік тому +1

    I love your videos, always highly informative while being really entertaining, not an easy thing to do but great for educational purposes, much appreciated.
    I'd like to make a suggestion, maybe this has been discussed before, I apologize if I missed. Have you looked into using google Earth's tour function, or just providing links to particular views? It has the ability to magnify or accentuate vertical height differences that might help understand what you're looking at.
    I'm old school, I still like seeing real blackboards and dusty chalk. But, I'm wondering, do they have huge screens that would allow for displaying anything you could want but also allow you to draw on them with a piece of 'chalk' that would really be a digital stylus of some kind but could me made to appear and even feel a lot like chalk, and even erasers that looked like the usual erasers, with the erasing made to look like blackboard erasing, but would allow for selective erasing. They could display videos and all that would entail. Anyways, that's just some wishful thinking.

  • @jamesdriscoll_tmp1515
    @jamesdriscoll_tmp1515 Рік тому +2

    It may be helpful to talk about other paleomagnetic data, like the sea floor spreading zebra stripes, to bring some understanding of how these measurements are used to add to other stories?

  • @Poppageno
    @Poppageno Рік тому

    Whoa! Interesting on the replay. ?, does the palomag calculations take into account the depth of solidification for the sample? My feeling is that Baja-BC is too simple an idea expression and that is why the #1's don't agree. Sometimes new geology ideas gain understanding and acceptance at geologic timescales. Thanks Nick and Bernie!

  • @66kbm
    @66kbm Рік тому +1

    I think this may be applicable ref Strike Slip Faults. After all, thats looking like one of the main reasons/methods for moving either all or part of the "Whale". I just watched Exotic F - Strike-Slip Faults from 2 years ago to both refresh my memory and also ask a question. How deep into the Earths Crust do Strike Slip Faults go? I presume all the way to the Mantle otherwise underlying rocks would prevent lateral movement? But...If they do not, could that possibly explain accelerated "shear" of the rocks on a horizontal plane where a stronger bond meets a weaker one in the stratigraphy? Are there undetected or undetectable horizontal faults, is there such a thing? , that could facilitate northward movement of the "Whale". I am only a Truck Driver so i do not have the in depth knowledge as some here. Thanks in advance.

  • @georgewooten5529
    @georgewooten5529 7 місяців тому

    Some very interesting geology is being missed because it is on the no-man's land on the International Border between Canada and the US, but we do have the Southern Nicola Arc Project in the Quesnel terrane that was at the western margin of ancestral North America in Devonian time. Quenellia rifted far enough from North America to become a back arc ocean basin that was isolated from North America long enough to evolve endemic organisms absent from adjacent parts of cratonic North America. Both Quesnellia and Stikinia terranes were reunited with North America by Mid-Jurassic as they buckled against the margin, capturing exotic oceanic rocks of the Cache Creek terrane between them." - Mihalynuk, M.G., Logan, J.M., Diakow, L.J., Friedman, R.M., and Gabites, J., 2014. Southern Nicola Arc Project (SNAP): Preliminary results. In: Geological Fieldwork 2013, British Columbia Ministry of Energy and Mines, British Columbia Geological Survey Paper 2014-1, pp. 29-57.

  • @toughenupfluffy7294
    @toughenupfluffy7294 Рік тому +1

    In my mind the Cretaceous stillstand is just a time during which the Earth's dynamo was stable. The real question to me is: what causes the dynamo to lose stability and flip? I think the answer lies in the rotation of the Earth, which , like the sun's rotation, causes the magnetic lines to cross over each other until they 'snap,' which in the case of the sun, can cause coronal mass ejections (CMEs).
    Could this be the reason terrestrial hotspots form in the mantle?

  • @iviewthetube
    @iviewthetube Рік тому +2

    The Earth's magnetic field moves a lot. It must be really difficult for paleontologists to remove that noise. In Seattle, declination is currently moving 0.1°W per year -- that would correspond to a drift of 6 miles per year.
    The Earth's magnetic field has both a vertical and horizontal component.
    I recommend that everyone play around with a vertical compass someday -- it's lots of fun.

    • @timbyrne914
      @timbyrne914 Рік тому +1

      Bernie's explanation in the last episode is that they rely on sampling a range of ages to eliminate the noise, based on a data that shows that over a million year or so the shift in the magnetic pole is a random walk with the earth's rotational pole as the average.

    • @Steviepinhead
      @Steviepinhead Рік тому

      @@timbyrne914 Well stated. Better than my attempt below!

  • @bonesb7686
    @bonesb7686 Рік тому +1

    I have printed out. Not reading yet

  • @johnnash5118
    @johnnash5118 Рік тому +1

    To me, Paleomag can support a hypothesis with concurring data, but it cannot confirm a hypothesis, because its ca. 85 Ma. location is an averaged educated guesstimate, @32:00+ unlike physical evidence. So I’m waiting for more physical evidence, such as fossil, geologic or mineralogic. Therefore, I can be a Baja-BC 10 if enough indisputable physical evidence comes along.

    • @Steviepinhead
      @Steviepinhead Рік тому

      We don't confirm hypotheses in science, we disconfirm them. If a hypothesis fits all the data that stands up to challenge, and competing hypotheses have been falsified because they CAN'T explain some aspect of the data that we're dealing with, then we tentatively run with that remaining hypothesis. If more than one hypothesis remains standing and they each explain the data in different ways, and none of them have been disconfirmed, then we keep collecting more data!

  • @richhyde4834
    @richhyde4834 Рік тому +1

    1080p

  • @revike6165
    @revike6165 Рік тому

    Paleomag---Get 0n The Bus! [or get left behind...]

  • @danielhathaway8042
    @danielhathaway8042 Рік тому

    Looks better 5x5

  • @amyself6678
    @amyself6678 Рік тому +1

    Instead maybe its "Hit in California, Withdraw West 100km, Run North 2000km, Go East for 2nd Hit In Canada... Why must BajaBC fault be on land when IMT and INS couldve withdrawn west at 100??

  • @kingswayguitar
    @kingswayguitar Рік тому +1

    did anyone else catch that, "we don't need any other studies because this is so good"

  • @steveneiffel8227
    @steveneiffel8227 Рік тому +1

    Paleomag might be hard, but once also fosile records align... why double deny it?

  • @pmm1044
    @pmm1044 Рік тому +1

    I thought earths spin axis does not coincide with the magnetic poles??

    • @Steviepinhead
      @Steviepinhead Рік тому

      My take was that, on average over time, the magnetic pole is generally in the near vicinity on a global scale of the spin axis. So if we average magnetic poles derived from the paleomagnetic data from several different sites over a geologically "close" timeframe (a few hundred thousand or a couple of million years here or there), then it's likely that the magnetic poles are going to cluster somewhere in the near vicinity of the spin axis. Haven't caught up on all the papers yet, so this is just what I'm gathering from the video presentations.

  • @susielarkin4254
    @susielarkin4254 Рік тому

    Auto 720p on my cell phone.

  • @alicemiller3139
    @alicemiller3139 Рік тому

    Nick have you seen my an cooks youtub channel? His geology is pretty cool ad well!

  • @jonathanblubaugh5049
    @jonathanblubaugh5049 Рік тому

    1:27:00 the CC is for Cache Creek, dude it's right next to Spences Bridge. The CH is for Churn Creek way down south. (BC is huge.)

  • @gordongadbois1179
    @gordongadbois1179 Рік тому +1

    GNEISS I THINK

  • @edwinreece438
    @edwinreece438 Рік тому

    Complicated stuff but at least it is relativity "down to earth" unlike modern physics which seems like fairy tales sometimes.