wait, this looks so cool. you can have survival players play against rts players? this could be actually insanely cool with friends and doing like a 1v5 or something edit: the base mod itself does not really support this, but I found a mod for the mod that allows survival players to team up with RTS players. the survival players are very good at collecting resources and can deal lots of aoe damage with snow bombs and some faction-specific equipment, but you're also nerfed and can't build or break most blocks anymore, to prevent cheesy strats like building above enemies or digging underground. you can still harvest resources though. also, there are player-made maps that have much better layouts, designed to fit the game more.
I tried it a few times but it's jank to set up so I think if atrioc does try this, he should probably let someone more tech-competent set it up, and they should do a test-run to make sure it works. I've had a plethora of issues getting the game to run and making the match start properly, but once it was finally running and a match had properly started, I didn't really encounter any major bugs. The two biggest issues are 1: making sure the datapack that modifies the RTS mod and creates the setup lobby works on the map you've chosen, and 2: making sure the version of Reign of Nether is compatible with the datapack. The datapack is out of date and apparently stopped updating when RoN was at 1.08, and it's now at 1.1.0. The map pack I downloaded has v46 of the datapack, but v49 is the latest version. Some people have managed to make these maps work by replacing the datapack with v49 and using 1.1.0, but when I try this nothing works. The best I've managed is getting v49 to work with 1.08. I think you could probably get away with going as far as 1.12 (not to be confused with MINECRAFT version 1.12, which you shouldn't be using. You need minecraft 1.19.2. I'm saying you could use Reign of Nether version 1.12, which is the last version before 1.1.0.)
in the other video he was talking about how the RTS genre needs to be innovated and the formula is stale, but every time he describes the games he's like "RTS games have an isometric view" you aren't going to innovate anything with that mindset. I'm not expecting Big A to invent StarCraft 4 but it's frustrating because if somebody did find a new innovative concept, it might get overlooked for being "too different". I wish he would describe the games in terms of what makes them fun to play
@@salce_with_onion What? Dude, there are plenty of ways to deal with those problems. Addressing them as problems is the first step to fixing them, it's not a reason to throw up your hands and give up immediately.
@@salce_with_onion No one has done it, therefore nobody will ever do it. Great logic. I have a theory of my own. You haven't said anything productive yet, so I don't think you ever will say anything productive.
@godlyvex5543 wow man good job, go get yourself a candy. RTS difficult and dead genre that is only pushed by enthusiasts, there will be no progress- not now, not in the next decade, because all possible combinations were already exhausted.
wait, this looks so cool. you can have survival players play against rts players? this could be actually insanely cool with friends and doing like a 1v5 or something
edit: the base mod itself does not really support this, but I found a mod for the mod that allows survival players to team up with RTS players. the survival players are very good at collecting resources and can deal lots of aoe damage with snow bombs and some faction-specific equipment, but you're also nerfed and can't build or break most blocks anymore, to prevent cheesy strats like building above enemies or digging underground. you can still harvest resources though. also, there are player-made maps that have much better layouts, designed to fit the game more.
I tried it a few times but it's jank to set up so I think if atrioc does try this, he should probably let someone more tech-competent set it up, and they should do a test-run to make sure it works. I've had a plethora of issues getting the game to run and making the match start properly, but once it was finally running and a match had properly started, I didn't really encounter any major bugs.
The two biggest issues are 1: making sure the datapack that modifies the RTS mod and creates the setup lobby works on the map you've chosen, and 2: making sure the version of Reign of Nether is compatible with the datapack. The datapack is out of date and apparently stopped updating when RoN was at 1.08, and it's now at 1.1.0. The map pack I downloaded has v46 of the datapack, but v49 is the latest version. Some people have managed to make these maps work by replacing the datapack with v49 and using 1.1.0, but when I try this nothing works. The best I've managed is getting v49 to work with 1.08. I think you could probably get away with going as far as 1.12 (not to be confused with MINECRAFT version 1.12, which you shouldn't be using. You need minecraft 1.19.2. I'm saying you could use Reign of Nether version 1.12, which is the last version before 1.1.0.)
in the other video he was talking about how the RTS genre needs to be innovated and the formula is stale, but every time he describes the games he's like "RTS games have an isometric view" you aren't going to innovate anything with that mindset. I'm not expecting Big A to invent StarCraft 4 but it's frustrating because if somebody did find a new innovative concept, it might get overlooked for being "too different". I wish he would describe the games in terms of what makes them fun to play
There is no room for innovation. RTS requires too much micro and leads to anxiety and toxicity. No one wants to play a game just to feel worse.
@@salce_with_onion What? Dude, there are plenty of ways to deal with those problems. Addressing them as problems is the first step to fixing them, it's not a reason to throw up your hands and give up immediately.
@@godlyvex5543 and how many new an successful RTS has been on the market lately? Those problems are solvable- but no one is going to do it.
@@salce_with_onion No one has done it, therefore nobody will ever do it. Great logic. I have a theory of my own. You haven't said anything productive yet, so I don't think you ever will say anything productive.
@godlyvex5543 wow man good job, go get yourself a candy. RTS difficult and dead genre that is only pushed by enthusiasts, there will be no progress- not now, not in the next decade, because all possible combinations were already exhausted.
Best video yet, very unique
Glad you enjoyed it!
good glizz mate
GG = Good Glizz