From rounding everything off in this video I have created a good all rounder. I only have 90 DD for Animations, (87 DD and play around with additional space to upgrade other attributes) Close Shot: 50 Driving Layup: 70 Driving Dunk: 90 Standing Dunk: 72 Post Control: 55 Mid-Range Shot: 69 Three-Point: Shot: 84 Free Throw: 80 Pass Accuracy: 77 Ball Handle: 86 Speed With Ball: 75 Interior Defense: 65 Perimeter Defense: 76 Steal: 80 Block: 78 Offensive Rebound: 48 Defensiv Rebound: 80 Speed: 81 Acceleration: 73 Strength: 74 Vertical: 75 Stamina: 99
I wish i had gone to 73 driving dunk on my u foot 3 level Threat. I noticed with my 6'10 rise up and poster together is way more effective than just rise up.
For a big that I’ll just be running random walkon Rec with not exactly comp, what would you rather have 78 layup and 84 strength? Or 80 layup and 82 strength? I’ll have Sabonis layup regardless but it then comes down to Hof Pro Touch and Silver Fearless vs Silver Bulldozer Silver Brick Wall and Gold Boxout beast? Tough decision I can’t decide lol
Yo Tonic is Hof Break Starter really that game breaking? I’m debating it thinking of stopping at 90 for the Gold Touch Passer and Haliburton. Or do you think if I’m going 90 it’d a waste and might as well do 92?
@@TonicKeyboard yea might as well do it. I’ll go 92 was checking and there’s not much else to gain with those 2 attributes. Can’t get any better dunk packages or improve my shot close which is ass anyway
@TonicKeyBoard I made a 7’3 big man my team likes to run 5 and out a lot too but I gave him 92 offensive rebound and 79 defensive rebound with me being that tall I should still be good on defensive rebounding or what you think?
So 92/25 or 25/80? In that case take the handles. Handling is also your catching ability. If you are only using post for unpluckable, handles would be better.
Do you think reaching for Bronze Challenger is important for bigs (if possible)? That’s the only reason why I’ve been leaning more towards 6’11 compared to 7’0 ft bigs so far
I like 82 layup for bigs if you're going to go that high. From what I've tested, Julius Randle has the best big man layup package in the game by far. And it has a lot of bulldozer animations.
@@sicario9850Almost nobody is putting 88 layup on a 7ft plus big man, especially if they want a balanced build. The Randle layup package works fine for me. I get plenty of euro step dunks and layups. Nobody said it was perfect. The Giannis layup package is just long athlete and everyone knows it’s one of the best, but it’s too expensive for most big men builds.
Tryna make a 7’0 stretch with 93 middy and 85 three ball. Dunno what’s more worth it going 93 o board with 78 d board or going 93 d board with 60 o board
One thing I learned is that positioning matters most. I have an 80 defensive rebound with gold rebound chaser because I have a 93 o board and I do in fact have a shorter wingspan of 7’7. I still snag. Just get in position and you’ll be fine 9/10.
Just going up for layups in the paint. If you want to get it the easiest way go to the sunset steetball games and play disco. He's a 5'7 you can set him as your matchup and go up on him every play
In park a ton of people run 6'8 "popper" builds. You can definitely go 6'10 so you have the most speed. If you are going to play park and rec as a big id go 7 foot
@@christiangreiner8414 you could especially if you go 90 strength. I will say though I am more of a fan of the taller bigs. But I don't have a meta playstyle
Is hof middy magician worth it? I have it on gold right now and it feels good but I wanted to get some badges on hof and also blinders on gold by upgrading the middy some more. But if hof isn’t worth it then I I’d rather lower my weight to get more speed since the tick in wingspan would allow me to have 93 rebound. Good vid btw!
Sometimes you can be heavier at a position so it can affect weight and speed. Also if you make a build at SG you get pro dribble style and you make a build at Sf you get normal dribble style. So their are definitely small things. Also some heights get more attributes than other heights
@@TonicKeyboard okay I been in builder making a 6 8 “big man” popper - was debating C or PF.. but it seems like may be smart to put at SF… for normal dribble style .. any thoughts?
@@divin3-_-shotzz621I have a 7 footer, I agree it's the perfect height for a big. I just made my stretch a 6'11 so I could get space creator for my hop jumpers
You get really good packages at 65. You could go with 55 but you won't always get a clean dunk Everytime. If I didn't upgrade my dunk I definitely would've invested in layup just so I had some type of reliable driving threat
Hey Tonic, greetz from Chile 🇨🇱, may well be your first from here... Wanted to ask you a few Q 1.- Wouldn't you go for driving dunk 73 for that bronze posterizer? 2.- How much 3ball you think is actually a reliable/consistent value to shoot around, as an average player, at a 50% efficiency Thanks in advance, you're one of the true great (and underrated) bigs in the game today.
Definitely worth it if you can afford it, it would be best on an inside center. The only thing is right now the standing dunk meter is broke the size of it is dependent on your driving dunk rating not your standing dunk rating. 2K is going to fix it but I don't know when
Yo tonic i really want 95 Post control for hof dropstep on my 7ft3 yao ming build but i will only be able to get 77 block and 85 o board, you think hof dropstepper is worth it? Thanks bro
Silver has worked just fine for me. I would suggest you utilize post hooks. When people bite on the post hooks while you’re backing them down they’ll tend to jump that’s when you cancel out of the post hook and hit them with a quick drop step.
Dang it I should have lowered my driving dunk. I have it on 86 and it would have been nice to put it on something else because I barely can even drive in with my player
I would go 74 for post move lockdown on bronze. If you play a post scorer it is tuff but it's enough for a normal center. If you want to be safe go 82 interior
@@joemontana1111 yeah 77 close shot 84 strength should be good for you. I will say close shots are weird this year. If someone has body contact with you they miss a lot no matter how high it is. But if somebody is just near you but they don't have contact it will say open 90 percent of the time and those are easy makes
Yo I posted this on another video but I gotta know bro so I’m asking again lol…Which build would you say is “better” 217 6’11 7’5 wingspan with silver unpluckable silver anchor and bronze bulldozer Or 223 6’11 7’3 wingspan with bronze unpluckable silver anchor and silver bulldozer Both fit the play style I wanna go with but idk which one which would you choose? I’m leaning towards the 217 bc it seems like even though I can’t knock ppl clean out the way I can still be good with the contact and speed helps me cut ppl off without having silver immovable enforcer. My only thing is on both builds I have 50 ORB and 60DRB and 85vert on both. I don’t wanna be too much of a liability on the boards
i Literally have the perfect build ......just gotta decide strength or no strength , No strength gives me gold middy magician and with the strength i get silver middy magician but silver physical handles aswell i cant choose
Yeah if I could've afforded it I would've loved to have it. I'm actually getting a ton of Putback dunks with it though since it's so low I always just go for it and they buffed the Putback animations this year
86 close shot and 92 standing dunk is another sweet spot for fast twitch gold and relentless as well that was a good breakdown 🙏🏻
you mean fast twitch silver
@@BigoLiveBannah gold
@@Idktxcdon’t work
6’11 max wingspan is the tallest/longest arms you can get gold catch and shoot.
From rounding everything off in this video I have created a good all rounder. I only have 90 DD for Animations, (87 DD and play around with additional space to upgrade other attributes)
Close Shot: 50
Driving Layup: 70
Driving Dunk: 90
Standing Dunk: 72
Post Control: 55
Mid-Range Shot: 69
Three-Point: Shot: 84
Free Throw: 80
Pass Accuracy: 77
Ball Handle: 86
Speed With Ball: 75
Interior Defense: 65
Perimeter Defense: 76
Steal: 80
Block: 78
Offensive Rebound: 48
Defensiv Rebound: 80
Speed: 81
Acceleration: 73
Strength: 74
Vertical: 75
Stamina: 99
Best vid for bigs that I’ve watched so far, all love tonic
Have you tried 88 lay for giannis layup?
I wish i had gone to 73 driving dunk on my u foot 3 level Threat. I noticed with my 6'10 rise up and poster together is way more effective than just rise up.
Redo this with starter 3 animation in mind and season 4 changes in mind. And new knowledge with the new builds u made
Bro this is exactly what I needed for my rebirth, thank you🙏🏼
Doin the most, in the post!
For a big that I’ll just be running random walkon Rec with not exactly comp, what would you rather have 78 layup and 84 strength? Or 80 layup and 82 strength? I’ll have Sabonis layup regardless but it then comes down to Hof Pro Touch and Silver Fearless vs Silver Bulldozer Silver Brick Wall and Gold Boxout beast?
Tough decision I can’t decide lol
Find a way to get 82 lay and 84 str, for Randle package and box out. If you absolutely cannot, I would take the strength.
Yo Tonic is Hof Break Starter really that game breaking? I’m debating it thinking of stopping at 90 for the Gold Touch Passer and Haliburton. Or do you think if I’m going 90 it’d a waste and might as well do 92?
I think 92 is worth it but if you are penny pinching for attributes you could definitely make 90 work
@@TonicKeyboard yea might as well do it. I’ll go 92 was checking and there’s not much else to gain with those 2 attributes. Can’t get any better dunk packages or improve my shot close which is ass anyway
@TonicKeyBoard I made a 7’3 big man my team likes to run 5 and out a lot too but I gave him 92 offensive rebound and 79 defensive rebound with me being that tall I should still be good on defensive rebounding or what you think?
Do u think 74 str so u can get +7 on the spd is worth it on a 7’1. Would have 67 speed
i'm making a 6'10 KD type of build, should i go to 82 perimeter to get silver Challenger or bronze challenger will do the work?
Won't b a kd build unless u got 90 mid wit a 85-86 3pt shit IJS
Would you rather have 92 post control for Gold Unpluckable or 80 ball handle with the dribble animations for Silver Unpluckable on a 6’9 SF build?
So 92/25 or 25/80? In that case take the handles. Handling is also your catching ability. If you are only using post for unpluckable, handles would be better.
Looking at a 7’1 Shaq build is 98 standing dunk too much? Paired with hall of fame back down
i done prolly liked 30+ videos in 1 week i just found your channel a week ago you have great dedicated content you an laker the best
Do you think reaching for Bronze Challenger is important for bigs (if possible)?
That’s the only reason why I’ve been leaning more towards 6’11 compared to 7’0 ft bigs so far
I love bronze challenger on my 6'11, I'm going to make a whole video on it. Definitely worth going for
You prefer 7’ or 6’11 for rec/pro-am?
7ft for sure
What’s the best defence for a inside /popper
You snapped with this bro 💯💯💯
I like 82 layup for bigs if you're going to go that high. From what I've tested, Julius Randle has the best big man layup package in the game by far. And it has a lot of bulldozer animations.
I will need to try it out, I have put 88 layup on my PF, was aiming for Giannis layup package, but will see how it looks, when I upgrade it
The euro step with the Randle package is a killer for bigs
@@ChefCharlesBoi talk to em. I like that and his hop step too.
Giannis is better. Julius randle gets blocked a lot with slow animations
Giannis is faster and gets more elevation
@@sicario9850Almost nobody is putting 88 layup on a 7ft plus big man, especially if they want a balanced build. The Randle layup package works fine for me. I get plenty of euro step dunks and layups. Nobody said it was perfect. The Giannis layup package is just long athlete and everyone knows it’s one of the best, but it’s too expensive for most big men builds.
Tryna make a 7’0 stretch with 93 middy and 85 three ball. Dunno what’s more worth it going 93 o board with 78 d board or going 93 d board with 60 o board
I would go with D board, as You will be mostly stretching floor, you will rarely find yourself in the paint.
@@gibsontheone4688 you’re probably right but i ended up settling on 93 offensive rebound with 80 defensive
One thing I learned is that positioning matters most. I have an 80 defensive rebound with gold rebound chaser because I have a 93 o board and I do in fact have a shorter wingspan of 7’7. I still snag. Just get in position and you’ll be fine 9/10.
Any tips for getting fast twitch? I got hof pro touch. Bronze fast twitch ?
Just going up for layups in the paint. If you want to get it the easiest way go to the sunset steetball games and play disco. He's a 5'7 you can set him as your matchup and go up on him every play
Can you shoot well with a 72 mid range ?
Hey tonic I’ve been studying this for like 30 min now what do you think is better for park 6’10 6’11 or 7’0
go in the middle 6'11 lol
In park a ton of people run 6'8 "popper" builds. You can definitely go 6'10 so you have the most speed. If you are going to play park and rec as a big id go 7 foot
@@TonicKeyboard thank you. Do you think I can set good screens with 6’8 and get rebounds?
@@christiangreiner8414 you could especially if you go 90 strength. I will say though I am more of a fan of the taller bigs. But I don't have a meta playstyle
Is hof middy magician worth it? I have it on gold right now and it feels good but I wanted to get some badges on hof and also blinders on gold by upgrading the middy some more. But if hof isn’t worth it then I I’d rather lower my weight to get more speed since the tick in wingspan would allow me to have 93 rebound. Good vid btw!
HOF middy magician is powerful but good is more than enough
78 driving layup for Sabonis but might as well go for 80 at that point
Does putting a player at PF or C make a difference - or is position preference?
Sometimes you can be heavier at a position so it can affect weight and speed. Also if you make a build at SG you get pro dribble style and you make a build at Sf you get normal dribble style. So their are definitely small things. Also some heights get more attributes than other heights
@@TonicKeyboard okay I been in builder making a 6 8 “big man” popper - was debating C or PF.. but it seems like may be smart to put at SF… for normal dribble style .. any thoughts?
@@darenking1508 yeah smart move, as long as you don't care about getting put at the small forward spot in random rec matches
@@TonicKeyboard damn lol won’t be able to get the same attributes at SF… so I guess it is between PF or C - does that make any difference?
@@darenking1508 I think centers can be a bit heavier and power forwards could get slightly more speed
Pretty good vid appreciate it
Love these types of video
great vid tonic
Tonic trust me I’m not a bum but I’m not u but 7 ft is better u can more attributes
@@divin3-_-shotzz621I have a 7 footer, I agree it's the perfect height for a big. I just made my stretch a 6'11 so I could get space creator for my hop jumpers
@@TonicKeyboard o I’m sorry my lord I’m tryna have a balance game like u
Do you know if their is any +4 attributes or extra attributes you get from maybe getting to 99 or anything ?
Rep
Is 55 dunk to 65 worth the upgrade? It’s so expensive but if you vouch for it I’ll take your word on it
You get really good packages at 65. You could go with 55 but you won't always get a clean dunk Everytime. If I didn't upgrade my dunk I definitely would've invested in layup just so I had some type of reliable driving threat
@@TonicKeyboard preciate u,
Is this good build for 2s ?
Hey Tonic, greetz from Chile 🇨🇱, may well be your first from here...
Wanted to ask you a few Q
1.- Wouldn't you go for driving dunk 73 for that bronze posterizer?
2.- How much 3ball you think is actually a reliable/consistent value to shoot around, as an average player, at a 50% efficiency
Thanks in advance, you're one of the true great (and underrated) bigs in the game today.
Its worthy go for Big driver in bronce ?
Forsure
I want to know if HOF rise up worth it??
Definitely worth it if you can afford it, it would be best on an inside center. The only thing is right now the standing dunk meter is broke the size of it is dependent on your driving dunk rating not your standing dunk rating. 2K is going to fix it but I don't know when
@@TonicKeyboardappreciate the reply bro 👌
Yo tonic i really want 95 Post control for hof dropstep on my 7ft3 yao ming build but i will only be able to get 77 block and 85 o board, you think hof dropstepper is worth it? Thanks bro
Silver has worked just fine for me. I would suggest you utilize post hooks. When people bite on the post hooks while you’re backing them down they’ll tend to jump that’s when you cancel out of the post hook and hit them with a quick drop step.
We’re due for an Updated video please! 💪🏾BIGS NEED THE TONIC LOVE
Tip 82 lay is good for Julius Randle layup package
Better than Jokic ?
@@Thor-cx4pkhell no
W video brother
W vid. I would like to see you do an update on this if possible. I’m lucky to have made my 6’9 the right way but wanted to make an new 7fter
Dang it I should have lowered my driving dunk. I have it on 86 and it would have been nice to put it on something else because I barely can even drive in with my player
is 72 interior defense good enough? I have an 87 block on my popper for silver anchor which I think is good enough but do I need more interior?
I would go 74 for post move lockdown on bronze. If you play a post scorer it is tuff but it's enough for a normal center. If you want to be safe go 82 interior
Depends on the way you play.
True
Please re do this video.
Love this bro‼️ Big W‼️🤝 What’s more valuable 84 close shot or 90 strength. Is 77 close shot and 84 strength decent enough is my real question.
Prolly 90 strength but I have a popper with no close shot.. and I’m out here missing standing layups 🥴
@@joemontana1111 yeah 77 close shot 84 strength should be good for you. I will say close shots are weird this year. If someone has body contact with you they miss a lot no matter how high it is. But if somebody is just near you but they don't have contact it will say open 90 percent of the time and those are easy makes
@@TonicKeyboard Bro I appreciate your feedback! I was literally working and researching this all day and here come the 🐐 😂🤝
Yo I posted this on another video but I gotta know bro so I’m asking again lol…Which build would you say is “better”
217 6’11 7’5 wingspan with silver unpluckable silver anchor and bronze bulldozer
Or
223 6’11 7’3 wingspan with bronze unpluckable silver anchor and silver bulldozer
Both fit the play style I wanna go with but idk which one which would you choose?
I’m leaning towards the 217 bc it seems like even though I can’t knock ppl clean out the way I can still be good with the contact and speed helps me cut ppl off without having silver immovable enforcer. My only thing is on both builds I have 50 ORB and 60DRB and 85vert on both. I don’t wanna be too much of a liability on the boards
You sound a bit like the UA-camr Goblin.
i Literally have the perfect build ......just gotta decide strength or no strength , No strength gives me gold middy magician and with the strength i get silver middy magician but silver physical handles aswell i cant choose
If 90 is perfect what is 99?
Tonic can we get an update on this 🔥
Tonic what’s good bro
Great video bro! Do you think 6’8 is viable for a big man? I don’t want to go taller than 6’11 for the 70 speed. Thanks
For sure, as long as you have at least a 90 strength, 93 rebound, and a high enough vertical. I even see dudes in the rec go crazy with 6’8 centers
Yes
I wish i gave my big more offensive rebounds he got a max of 63 😂💀🤦🏾♂️
Yeah if I could've afforded it I would've loved to have it. I'm actually getting a ton of Putback dunks with it though since it's so low I always just go for it and they buffed the Putback animations this year
@@TonicKeyboardfr I have a small forward with 75 driving dunk and 25 o board and I get them all the time
I have 99 o board 🥰
Hi LakersFan.
Call me TonicsFan for this video
But unpluckable doesn’t even work .
Post control not cheap for bigs
N 87 is great for block look into tutes n labs lost of this low rating don’t work