"...and it really hurts me..." That is the problem tho, the whole unironic "triggered" stance is that someone's very specific life experiences work as a crutch for them to stand on, i.e i cant make fun of you because x happened to you, the "triggered" meme is a satire of that, your life experiences dont justify your political positions and you can have a stupid view of, say, pedophilia despite having suffered from it, look up milo yiannopoulo's comments about pedophilia to get what i mean
@@wilsonsilva2918 Are you replying to me? Because I never said you or other people can't make fun of me??? Although I don't know how you'd manage that considering we don't know anything about each other.
@@wilsonsilva2918 I am aware that people use the word "triggered" as a joke and I have a problem with it. For example, if I do LITERALLY get triggered by something (which, btw, is not fun at all) and I tell someone that I just got triggered that would mean that I need help from them, I'm probably getting a panic attack. But because people use the word as a joke people will take me less seriously when I literally say I've been triggered and may even laugh because they've gotten used to seeing that word only in the context of jokes.
It's kind of annoying that even the left uses the "triggered" derogatorily some times too. I get it's supposed to counter the "snowflake" claims they make about the left, but its setting a bad standard to enable using the word that way.
yep. when we use the word like they do, then we legitimize their use and we accept their definitions, definitions which they constructed for their own political ends. this goes for many words and assumptions that they use.
That's not what I'm trying to do with this video. I genuinely did have a traumatic experience involving a football. I was having a bad LSD trip at the time so things got pretty scary.
If you want further details I went through a psychotic break after being involuntarily hospitalised. This video is coming from the perspective of a trauma survivor.
@@ElectricUnicycleCrew i mean i was poking fun at the right-wingers who do those kinda of jokes a bit more like ''libtards owned epic style'' i kinda hate how now ofensive and racist jokes are normalized and people really don't care if a person who might take ofense at those jokes might cripple him at getting over the traumatising .This wave of Anti-Sjw popularised those kinda of jokes and those were also the guys who popularised infusing ''meme culture'' with politics on a debate on the internet
Random people?! This is from my own family and has gone on for years. The desire for something and having the ability don't always coalesce. It's a bit presumptive to think it's just "people saying mean words".
Thank you!! I hate that the word has become such a joke, because it’s difficult to explain why I hate being grabbed by the wrist for example. But there’s no appropriate word besides “triggered.” People need to stop using it to describe things they dislike or to make fun of people !!
Thank you for this video. English is not my 1st language and didn’t know true meaning of „triggered”. It’s good that I’ve never used it, but without this video I would surely use it wrongly one day.
Yeah... even people on the left who've had this explained to them still use the term incorrectly or as "sarcasm" vs the right and it's crap. Shitting on people who've undergone trauma just to make a dis against someone, however ignorant or hateful, isn't productive. I mean it's just the same to go with "manchild" or "snowflake" or "x tears", without comparing people to trauma survivors. Thanks for this video! =8)-DX
8DX why not use man child? I'm curious. I figured it designated a person that was adult physically while behaving like a child. Or were you suggesting it as an alternative?
@Avrysatos Yes, I was suggesting those as alternatives to throw the rhetoric of the right back at them (They call people snowflakes and crybabies and get all hot and bothered indignantly shouting "reals over feels" and mock any semblance of integrity as childish naivety).
BOSS ROSS people with.... people with ptsd have triggers, I don't know how to tell you that its mainly people with ptsd that experience exactly what Cameron is describing. (I have ptsd, diagnosed by my psychologist)
Triggers can manifest themselves in different ways in everyone. Some people relive their experience, some get sad, some feel sick, some just feel unwell, some isolate themselves, etc.
Hi Cam what happened to the Autistic Experiences Expressed Musically video? It showed up in my notifications but it isn't there anymore. Thank you for this awareness video. ❤️
What is your opinion on Peter Coffin's videos on attention as a form of currency and the ''market place of ideas'' that we're forced to live under, which allows you to exchange attention for capital like you would exchange a dollar for a pound/yen/any currency you can think of? I think we may need a proper discussion on anarchist tactics on the usage of marketplace of ideas in order to sell left wing channels without necessarily trading that attention for capital, except for when doing so leads to desirable results I.E Way more attention OR way more capital to be used to boost your ability to gain attention (I.E spending your patreon money on better editing software, better equipment OR promote other channels with similar goals)
People do that with OCD. They joke when they are cleaning and their friend might say that she has OCD....and everyone laughs...meanwhile, OCD is a real problem. I don't think it's funny cuz i have OCD and its painful having it, it's not funny at all.
can i ask a question? i have Asperger's and in times of great stress, i will meltdown and have what many would call a "tantrum" but it's me just being overloaded, i was wondering in the context of me going through a meltdown, would that count as me being triggered, or is triggered only a term to describe those who have trauma/PTSD?
I'd say that triggered describes the experience of going through something traumatic. When it comes to AS I feel that a meltdown is just an emotional response to something that's happening that has made you feel like you are losing control. Traumatic experiences typically involve a numbing out of emotions. That is just my opinion though, someone else might think something different.
@@ElectricUnicycleCrew ah okay, well this is fair enough though, i can accept this. have a good day, and if you don't mind me asking, off topic, are you and Richard Coughlan still friends since the whole drama he went through on social media? i'm ambivalent about the situation, but i still like watching his videos.
One thing I have noticed is that following the right-wing's resurgence in mainstream culture, words like triggered and SJW have entered the popular lexicon. Interestingly, not in the manner the right intended. SJW does not really mean feminist anymore but more politically-motivated killjoy, like an eco-warrior. Triggered as well has become a word young people use for annoyed or irritated, which I find much less offensive than the derisive usage from the right and the disingenuous usage from others on the left, but still I think people should always try and expand their vocabulary regularly so they aren't only using words they have just picked up because this is, above all else, good for themselves.
Exposure therapy may work for phobias and certain types of trauma (like accidents and natural disasters) but Bessel an Der Kolk (the Body Keeps the Score a classic PTSD text) argues repeated to triggers is not effective for people in post-traumatic stress. Avoidance and stagnation is not, therefore, the answer. Treatment of PTSD is individual, and must be tailored as such. I don't like the language of "getting over it" so much because it still plays into the idea that your conscious mind has control over what your psyche is traumatized by. This notion of control is what grounds people's overall derisive attitude towards 'triggered liberals'. That said, I appreciate this video's clarity and plainness, and think this needed to be said in just this way to get its message across. --cheers!
Though I don't have any significant triggers, thanks so much for this video. I've been aggravated at some of my peers' usage of the term "triggered," but I haven't been able to really word why I have such a distaste for the way they use it. Thanks so much for putting my thoughts into a compact argument
Triggered is definitely a useful shorthand for a trauma instigating incident. However i believe that, like with other words, we must simply bite the bullet here and casually and repeatedly and sometimes insistently inform others that, "No, I mean that literally, please respect my preference." Getting everyone to use a word a certain way is a waste of effort, costing more than the benefit.
One of the things that further muddy the waters about this word is that it can also be used in the more generic sense of starting off some response of any kind and I've heard people use 'I was triggered' in that more generic sense without any realization of the psychology behind it.
Watching this before UA-cam breaks and makes the video unavailable for viewing. Good explanation of the term and all the problems with misuse of it, by the way. I feel basically the same way about this sort of thing.
I completely agree. On a different note, what happened to that other video you uploaded that got taken down by UA-cam? Was it a copyright thing? And what was it about?, I didn’t get a chance to see it.
If you check out my soundcloud you'll see why. soundcloud.com/user-993657196/untitled This expresses autistic experiences. Wrote it in the midst of a psychotic episode.
I doubt people who make fun of the term lack any empathy for people who have gone through a traumatic event. It's just that the term has become intimately linked with the "controlling speech" movement, and emits a negative response. Which makes sense, because anything can trigger people (seemingly small things can put me out of commision for days), so it's important to fight back against anything that can lead us down a "legaslative" path when dealing with something so subjective.
CaptainAtomSmasher That is simply not true. People are constantly screaming TRIGGERED!!! whenever they see someone disagreeing with something and on random internet comments from people you didn't even have a conversation with. And the word is mostly an internet thing anyway.
CaptainAtomSmasher I've yet to see this controlling speech movement y'all keep talking about beyond a few no power demonstrations petitions and opinion articles/videos. The way people go on about it I've been expecting Fahrenheit 451 reenactments. But... Nothing.
@@Avrysatos you can get thrown in jail for a shitty/tasteless joke in Europe. I'm not saying this has anything to do with that, but it's definitely an aspect to it.
@@sinbysin666 Yeah but the people that are screaming about this the most are in the US and I still can't find any evidence here. Europe never claimed to have free speech necessarily did it?
I am also triggered by the refrain of this song because it was the ring tone of the telephone I was triggered by... ua-cam.com/video/bCDIt50hRDs/v-deo.html
I think the meaning of the word depends on several factors such as the context of communication and probably the tone of the speaker saying the word. While I agree that misusing the word may invalidate the feelings of the people who are really suffering from a trauma, it is also important to note that we can not simply assign restrictive rules on a word because language by nature is in constant flux. Different variations of the word mean different things. Words can also have different connotations that we can not simply control. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it is better to conclude that we need to be sensitive of our surroundings and know what and what not to say at a given moment, which would not necessitate not using the word completely. It's about responsibility.
I had a bad LSD trip which involved a football that I had a negative reaction to. Things snowballed and I got involuntarily hospitalised at which point I formed an attachment due to the conditions of survival I was under, and had a psychotic break trying to contextualise and process that attachment in terms of how it related to other relationships in my life. I consider the psychotic break to be triggered by different stimuli than the football, namely the phone call that my mother got where the police said 'either Cameron comes to hospital or we take him there'. Feelings of extreme fear just took over at that point. So yes and no. I've had some extreme experiences.
@@ElectricUnicycleCrew I understand, I'm also on the spectrum like you. I have always have strong relationships problems with my piers and even my immediate family. I have always felt a large disconnect from other people and its been very frustrating.
@@ElectricUnicycleCrew I'd love to know more about the trip and how you dealt with the pain. I've been through similar things, but I ain't over it all. couldn't imagine that kinda stuff happening to a smart dude
People misunderstand what sensitivity entails. I would say someone is more "sensitive" if their current conditions are more stressful, and how said person handles said stress has everything to do with their personality structure (which in turn has to do with culture).
Would you consider making a video or a longer post talking about your mental health? I understand if it would be too personal as I have anxiety disorder and don't like talking about it even with my family. Still, I think it might be helpful for others to see they are not alone in this. Especially when they are involved in social issues. I think the weight of realizing how the world is built may add up to one's stress and eventually worsen their mental health.
Do you have an email address? There's a video I made about my psychotic break but I feel like it wouldn't be a good idea to make it public. It's unlisted at the moment.
If I play an MMORPG I see somebody in chat say "I'm triggered" multiple times while playing it. It's very annoying because I don't think these people understand what it even means.
luke lee probably don't and don't care. If it's in a group you can just leave if it's in your guild clan company whatever you can say something like "you know what that word really means right??"
The burden of avoiding something that offends you is on you and not the person that says something. Look, Everybody is offend by something, you don't have a right not to be offended, you do have the right to say something offensive though. "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." -Noam Chomsky
You use the thing that the right likes to reference over and over again: Science. You could link them to a scientific study which shows that people who have suffered some kind of trauma in the past can be plunged into a negative mental state if they are reminded of that traumatic event, and that their misuse of the term is making people with mental health problems afraid to use it in case people laugh at them. Then again, they might just respond back with "tHiS iS jUsT pUtTiNg FeElInGs OvEr FaCtS lIbTaRd LoL gEt ReKt!!!!!1!!!!1!!11!!!1".
@@alexanderhall5579 that would assume that the person you are conversing with cares for science or isnt triggered by it. Cause you know facts are scary
TheMegaladon Facts are not absolute. Beliefs are scary, they are absolute. You can revise your understanding of any fact with further investigation, you can't revise baseless beliefs. Science is never absolute. Religion of science, positivism is.
TheMegaladon in person? Give them The Look. You know the one. The "the shit I scraped off my boot is higher in my regard than you." Look. And then pretend they don't exist. Online? Declare yourself the winner if they use it I guess. They hate losing most of all.
I'm not sure I agree with this. There's been many things in my past that "trigger" me, I suppose. Or better yet, I've gone through things that I don't like thinking back on. A few things just put me in a certain mood, things I'll never be able to get over and just ignore. They happened and it's never going to go away. But people making jokes about these subjects, I don't mind that. There's a few things people can easily make a joke about. But that doesn't mean they're talking light about the subject or that these issues are now trivial. I can't agree with that idea. I have Turkish friends and my "darkest" joke is about them refusing to admit to the genocide of Armenian people. Is it particularly funny? Not really, it's only funny because it hits so hard on their political situation and beliefs. But after the joke has been made, there's no reason for any of us to have any bad feelings about each other. Same way I don't mind the jokes that relate to me. Yes I struggle with some of these things, but a joke at the end of the day is still a joke. I think the intent of a joke is what matters most. A friend of mine makes jokes about domestic violence all the time, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be upset that my dad used to hit me. He isn't saying it to make it seem like my father hitting me was some trivial thing that happened or that my pain isn't real.
I've had experiences before where someone has put me off with bad politics. I'm fairly charitable so long as they aren't racist, transphobic and so on. I do think that when it comes to finding partners you have to leave some elbow room as learning new things from the people you meet that are different to you is a good experience.
@@ElectricUnicycleCrew Do you know a lot of trans people or something? What do you get out of being around non whites? Had a heterogeneous agenda not been shoved down your throat by elites who want to divide and conquer Britain you wouldn't even care.
I don’t know if the right is necessarily to blame for the excessive misuse of the word “triggered” when the left used it as a serious term to begin with to describe being offended in a discussion, but I agree with the points overall.
Life is full of triggers. Trying to remove them from the world is pointless. Quit crying about it and spend that energy on developing coping skills. Spare us from this man-baby bullshit that is infecting our society.
Yes, but the responsibility to remove the trigger rests on the triggered in most cases. In other words, it shouldn't be used to censor others in most cases. To use the football example, if you went to a football stadium and asked them to remove all the football's so you can feel better, that isn't OK. You can not go to the stadium. Now if people are coming to your flat and throwing footballs in, that is another story. I also agree the misappropriation of the term for simple offense does the most damage to it.
The football stadium in this situation is a trigger warning, the person knows there are footballs in it. If they're just getting coffee and the barista throws a football at them, that kinda sucks, yea? It might not be the barista's fault, they didn't know, that's why the affected would then tell the barista what the trigger was, and everyone would come away knowledgeable and not accidentally hurting each other. It's not censorship, it's empathy.
I think the only way we can safely joke about sensitive things like this is when we fully get a communist civilization. Without systems of opression present, a joke can't be use as a weapon, but as what it meant to be: a relief of the problems we face day by day.
I think most people have no problem with a person with real ptsd or other real issues dealing with trauma. The mentally healthy person that is using triggered bc they are offended or worse, just virtue signaling is the type of person(s) that the others using the word triggered are targeting. Most people dealing with real trauma are usually not bothered by the person(s) trolling the faker bc the real trauma survivors are aware that the pretender needs to be called out bc the poser(s) are the ones that ACTUALLY hurt the real trauma survivors and their causes. It would be great if everyone would listen to rational discussion. However, sometimes you have to show someone how ridiculous they look before they get it.
Except that it can often be difficult to tell the difference between someone with real trauma and a 'faker'. One should never assume fakery just because they find the trauma described to be laughable.
So y'all are saying that all these people flipping out and claiming to be "triggered" by Pres Trump being elected really have serious trauma over it? My fave the white people that are triggered bc they claim some other white person is appropriating some other race's culture bc of hair style or costume? The people shouting down others bc they can't handle another's opinion and cries when they don't get their way so they claim that other person nicely expressing a difference of opinion and willing to agree to disagree but since that person won't change their mind the yelling maniac says the other person triggered them. That's the shit I'm talking about. I would never tell a rape victim, a victim of any violence, war vet, etc or any other person that claimed to have PTSD and said they have certain triggers, that they were lying or make fun of them. If you can't tell the difference between an ass or a brat and some one sincere, you have alot more growing to do STFU.... GTFO wit that BS
YourComputerExpert why is it when confronted with "hey please don't say this, its impolite" yall have stereotypical childlike responses of "WAAAAH I DO WHAT I WANT ):
@@frankmorrow4923 So I am immature and childlike just because I don't comply with someone's request? Personally, I am not going to take into account every single disorder and person who can get offended every time I say something. To extend this, I have dealt with PTSD myself from childhood. Now in my late 20's and after years of (EMDR) therapy it basically lessend to a degree where I no longer get 'triggered' during every day life. Honestly, if people with PTSD get offended by people using the word 'triggered', they should stop taking everything in life so serious and personal. Overexaggerating to prove a point happens constantly. People do it all the time. CammehYaBams gave us something to consider and think about, and I decided not to agree with it. Simple as that.
YourComputerExpert I have ptsd as well, for me its the fact that the word has been stripped of its medical meaning, which is obvious because you're using it in quotations. And the fact its like y'all act like we're trying to rob you of your freedom of speech when its just "please be polite to people" which I don't get why its so hard just to remove a word from your vocabulary.
@@frankmorrow4923 I understand completely that it can feel impolite when people talk about being triggered, while you are *actually* dealing with those problems. However, I don't think most people who use the word 'triggered', actually mean being triggered like someone with PTSD. Triggering someone could just simply mean that you are invoking a response within someone else. I don't think the word should be reserved only when talking about people with PTSD just because their meaning behind the same word is much more serious and impactful to their everyday life. The medical meaning behind it is only important when talking to someone about it within the proper context, like explaining to a loved one how you feel or discussing your problems with a therapist. I doubt it will lose it's meaning within those situations, so personally I feel like it's a bit pointless to fight everyone 'misusing' the word.
YourComputerExpert it isn't just ptsd, like my OCD has certain triggers, like if I step on a crack on the floor or sidewalk. Phobias have triggers as well, so does depression, schizophrenia, bpd, paranoia, and a whole shitload of other mental disorders. Even things that aren't necessary mental disorders such as gender dysphoria have triggers, but the problem arises when (mainly those on the right) mock the strawman of anyone who says "i'm triggered" or "that can be a trigger"
Thanks so much for making this video! I have PTSD from years of childhood abuse and it really hurts me when people use the word "triggered" as a joke.
@TheToiletBare ?
"...and it really hurts me..."
That is the problem tho, the whole unironic "triggered" stance is that someone's very specific life experiences work as a crutch for them to stand on, i.e i cant make fun of you because x happened to you, the "triggered" meme is a satire of that, your life experiences dont justify your political positions and you can have a stupid view of, say, pedophilia despite having suffered from it, look up milo yiannopoulo's comments about pedophilia to get what i mean
@@wilsonsilva2918 Are you replying to me? Because I never said you or other people can't make fun of me??? Although I don't know how you'd manage that considering we don't know anything about each other.
I'm replying to you, yes, but i am talking about the usage of the joke as i fear you arent aware of it
@@wilsonsilva2918 I am aware that people use the word "triggered" as a joke and I have a problem with it. For example, if I do LITERALLY get triggered by something (which, btw, is not fun at all) and I tell someone that I just got triggered that would mean that I need help from them, I'm probably getting a panic attack. But because people use the word as a joke people will take me less seriously when I literally say I've been triggered and may even laugh because they've gotten used to seeing that word only in the context of jokes.
It's kind of annoying that even the left uses the "triggered" derogatorily some times too. I get it's supposed to counter the "snowflake" claims they make about the left, but its setting a bad standard to enable using the word that way.
Simok1234 I stick with u mad? And the like.
yep. when we use the word like they do, then we legitimize their use and we accept their definitions, definitions which they constructed for their own political ends. this goes for many words and assumptions that they use.
Ive seen this too, we should argue with conviction but using the very rhetoric of the ideologies we oppose won't get us anywhere.
@@rezalustig6773 Asking if they're mad makes them madder usually so...
@Definitely a George Soros funded bot ya NOPE.
making fun of trauma survivors,rape victims and people with ptsd EPIC STYLE
That's not what I'm trying to do with this video. I genuinely did have a traumatic experience involving a football. I was having a bad LSD trip at the time so things got pretty scary.
If you want further details I went through a psychotic break after being involuntarily hospitalised. This video is coming from the perspective of a trauma survivor.
@@ElectricUnicycleCrew i mean i was poking fun at the right-wingers who do those kinda of jokes a bit more like ''libtards owned epic style'' i kinda hate how now ofensive and racist jokes are normalized and people really don't care if a person who might take ofense at those jokes might cripple him at getting over the traumatising .This wave of Anti-Sjw popularised those kinda of jokes and those were also the guys who popularised infusing ''meme culture'' with politics on a debate on the internet
Excuse me for that. I'm autistic and often have trouble being able to tell whether someone's being literal or not.
@@ElectricUnicycleCrew Yikes. I guess the takeaway from that story is don't take LSD. Good video by the way.
I've heard people say they have a hard time talking to their therapists about their triggers because they cant take the word seriously anymore
And they shouldnt, especially as a therapist that has actual knowledge of stuff like PTSD and that "triggered" is a placebo
oof, i do. i can hardly even say the word seriously :/
As someone who deals with this in real life, there's nothing more tedious than "triggered" jokes.
Maybe you shouldnt put so much value to random peoples words.
@@YourComputerExpert Maybe you should stop idiotically trying to devalue language.
Random people?!
This is from my own family and has gone on for years.
The desire for something and having the ability don't always coalesce. It's a bit presumptive to think it's just "people saying mean words".
@@tomboz777 are you triggered by what I said?
Swing and a miss.
Thank you!! I hate that the word has become such a joke, because it’s difficult to explain why I hate being grabbed by the wrist for example. But there’s no appropriate word besides “triggered.” People need to stop using it to describe things they dislike or to make fun of people !!
Thank you for this video. English is not my 1st language and didn’t know true meaning of „triggered”. It’s good that I’ve never used it, but without this video I would surely use it wrongly one day.
You really do great work, thank you so much for what you do.
As a trauma survivor I sometimes make triggered jokes at myself about my own ptsd as a coping mechanism
Brian Brecker different case. Morbid humor can be a coping mechanism to deal with trauma.
Yeah... even people on the left who've had this explained to them still use the term incorrectly or as "sarcasm" vs the right and it's crap. Shitting on people who've undergone trauma just to make a dis against someone, however ignorant or hateful, isn't productive. I mean it's just the same to go with "manchild" or "snowflake" or "x tears", without comparing people to trauma survivors.
Thanks for this video! =8)-DX
8DX why not use man child? I'm curious. I figured it designated a person that was adult physically while behaving like a child. Or were you suggesting it as an alternative?
@Avrysatos Yes, I was suggesting those as alternatives to throw the rhetoric of the right back at them (They call people snowflakes and crybabies and get all hot and bothered indignantly shouting "reals over feels" and mock any semblance of integrity as childish naivety).
@@8DX What's so ridiculous is they're often shouting stuff like that when they're responding entirely with feelings.
So it’s kinda like PTSD?
more than just the emotions, there is often a visceral physical reliving of the events.
BOSS ROSS people with.... people with ptsd have triggers, I don't know how to tell you that its mainly people with ptsd that experience exactly what Cameron is describing. (I have ptsd, diagnosed by my psychologist)
@@8DX I see
It literally is factitious or somatic PTSD.
Triggers can manifest themselves in different ways in everyone. Some people relive their experience, some get sad, some feel sick, some just feel unwell, some isolate themselves, etc.
Hi Cam what happened to the Autistic Experiences Expressed Musically video? It showed up in my notifications but it isn't there anymore.
Thank you for this awareness video. ❤️
It got taken down for copyright infringement. If you want to hear what I composed, check it out on soundcloud:
soundcloud.com/user-993657196/untitled
@@ElectricUnicycleCrew That was amazing. Thanks for sharing. :)
What is your opinion on Peter Coffin's videos on attention as a form of currency and the ''market place of ideas'' that we're forced to live under, which allows you to exchange attention for capital like you would exchange a dollar for a pound/yen/any currency you can think of?
I think we may need a proper discussion on anarchist tactics on the usage of marketplace of ideas in order to sell left wing channels without necessarily trading that attention for capital, except for when doing so leads to desirable results I.E Way more attention OR way more capital to be used to boost your ability to gain attention (I.E spending your patreon money on better editing software, better equipment OR promote other channels with similar goals)
People do that with OCD. They joke when they are cleaning and their friend might say that she has OCD....and everyone laughs...meanwhile, OCD is a real problem. I don't think it's funny cuz i have OCD and its painful having it, it's not funny at all.
can i ask a question? i have Asperger's and in times of great stress, i will meltdown and have what many would call a "tantrum" but it's me just being overloaded, i was wondering in the context of me going through a meltdown, would that count as me being triggered, or is triggered only a term to describe those who have trauma/PTSD?
I'd say that triggered describes the experience of going through something traumatic. When it comes to AS I feel that a meltdown is just an emotional response to something that's happening that has made you feel like you are losing control. Traumatic experiences typically involve a numbing out of emotions. That is just my opinion though, someone else might think something different.
@@ElectricUnicycleCrew ah okay, well this is fair enough though, i can accept this. have a good day, and if you don't mind me asking, off topic, are you and Richard Coughlan still friends since the whole drama he went through on social media? i'm ambivalent about the situation, but i still like watching his videos.
One thing I have noticed is that following the right-wing's resurgence in mainstream culture, words like triggered and SJW have entered the popular lexicon. Interestingly, not in the manner the right intended. SJW does not really mean feminist anymore but more politically-motivated killjoy, like an eco-warrior. Triggered as well has become a word young people use for annoyed or irritated, which I find much less offensive than the derisive usage from the right and the disingenuous usage from others on the left, but still I think people should always try and expand their vocabulary regularly so they aren't only using words they have just picked up because this is, above all else, good for themselves.
Exposure therapy may work for phobias and certain types of trauma (like accidents and natural disasters) but Bessel an Der Kolk (the Body Keeps the Score a classic PTSD text) argues repeated to triggers is not effective for people in post-traumatic stress.
Avoidance and stagnation is not, therefore, the answer. Treatment of PTSD is individual, and must be tailored as such. I don't like the language of "getting over it" so much because it still plays into the idea that your conscious mind has control over what your psyche is traumatized by. This notion of control is what grounds people's overall derisive attitude towards 'triggered liberals'.
That said, I appreciate this video's clarity and plainness, and think this needed to be said in just this way to get its message across. --cheers!
Very well said!
Though I don't have any significant triggers, thanks so much for this video. I've been aggravated at some of my peers' usage of the term "triggered," but I haven't been able to really word why I have such a distaste for the way they use it. Thanks so much for putting my thoughts into a compact argument
Honestly, both the triggered and "autistic screeching" jokes are so disgusting.
Triggered is definitely a useful shorthand for a trauma instigating incident. However i believe that, like with other words, we must simply bite the bullet here and casually and repeatedly and sometimes insistently inform others that, "No, I mean that literally, please respect my preference." Getting everyone to use a word a certain way is a waste of effort, costing more than the benefit.
You can edit out the blank screen in UA-cam editor
Can you provide a citation for the quotes if Hitler you used in a previous video? The ones about how and why he appropriated socialism . Thanks
This is a fantastic summary!
One of the things that further muddy the waters about this word is that it can also be used in the more generic sense of starting off some response of any kind and I've heard people use 'I was triggered' in that more generic sense without any realization of the psychology behind it.
Watching this before UA-cam breaks and makes the video unavailable for viewing.
Good explanation of the term and all the problems with misuse of it, by the way. I feel basically the same way about this sort of thing.
I completely agree.
On a different note, what happened to that other video you uploaded that got taken down by UA-cam? Was it a copyright thing? And what was it about?, I didn’t get a chance to see it.
It was a copyright thing
Libertarian Socialist Rants Of course it was.
If you check out my soundcloud you'll see why.
soundcloud.com/user-993657196/untitled
This expresses autistic experiences. Wrote it in the midst of a psychotic episode.
I doubt people who make fun of the term lack any empathy for people who have gone through a traumatic event. It's just that the term has become intimately linked with the "controlling speech" movement, and emits a negative response. Which makes sense, because anything can trigger people (seemingly small things can put me out of commision for days), so it's important to fight back against anything that can lead us down a "legaslative" path when dealing with something so subjective.
Yup.
CaptainAtomSmasher That is simply not true. People are constantly screaming TRIGGERED!!! whenever they see someone disagreeing with something and on random internet comments from people you didn't even have a conversation with. And the word is mostly an internet thing anyway.
CaptainAtomSmasher I've yet to see this controlling speech movement y'all keep talking about beyond a few no power demonstrations petitions and opinion articles/videos. The way people go on about it I've been expecting Fahrenheit 451 reenactments. But... Nothing.
@@Avrysatos you can get thrown in jail for a shitty/tasteless joke in Europe. I'm not saying this has anything to do with that, but it's definitely an aspect to it.
@@sinbysin666 Yeah but the people that are screaming about this the most are in the US and I still can't find any evidence here. Europe never claimed to have free speech necessarily did it?
Respect for you, Pal!☺
when I was 5 years old I was triggered by the telephone and the portable vacuum cleaner, and now it seems so funny to me!
I am also triggered by the refrain of this song because it was the ring tone of the telephone I was triggered by...
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Thank you for this.
now I get it, Libsoc is an alternative word for liberal.
Does this mean I'm right? That you shouldnt use triggered as a joke and that it doesn't mean really mad
I think the meaning of the word depends on several factors such as the context of communication and probably the tone of the speaker saying the word. While I agree that misusing the word may invalidate the feelings of the people who are really suffering from a trauma, it is also important to note that we can not simply assign restrictive rules on a word because language by nature is in constant flux. Different variations of the word mean different things. Words can also have different connotations that we can not simply control.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that it is better to conclude that we need to be sensitive of our surroundings and know what and what not to say at a given moment, which would not necessitate not using the word completely. It's about responsibility.
Was the example with the football a real experience or was it made up just to get your point across?
I had a bad LSD trip which involved a football that I had a negative reaction to. Things snowballed and I got involuntarily hospitalised at which point I formed an attachment due to the conditions of survival I was under, and had a psychotic break trying to contextualise and process that attachment in terms of how it related to other relationships in my life. I consider the psychotic break to be triggered by different stimuli than the football, namely the phone call that my mother got where the police said 'either Cameron comes to hospital or we take him there'. Feelings of extreme fear just took over at that point. So yes and no. I've had some extreme experiences.
@@ElectricUnicycleCrew I understand, I'm also on the spectrum like you. I have always have strong relationships problems with my piers and even my immediate family. I have always felt a large disconnect from other people and its been very frustrating.
@@ElectricUnicycleCrew I'd love to know more about the trip and how you dealt with the pain. I've been through similar things, but I ain't over it all. couldn't imagine that kinda stuff happening to a smart dude
People misunderstand what sensitivity entails. I would say someone is more "sensitive" if their current conditions are more stressful, and how said person handles said stress has everything to do with their personality structure (which in turn has to do with culture).
Would you consider making a video or a longer post talking about your mental health? I understand if it would be too personal as I have anxiety disorder and don't like talking about it even with my family. Still, I think it might be helpful for others to see they are not alone in this. Especially when they are involved in social issues. I think the weight of realizing how the world is built may add up to one's stress and eventually worsen their mental health.
Do you have an email address? There's a video I made about my psychotic break but I feel like it wouldn't be a good idea to make it public. It's unlisted at the moment.
@@ElectricUnicycleCrew It's nnnebulka(at)gmail.com and thank you, it should takes courage the speak about this stuff.
You have a touch of aphasia! It's just a metaphysical sort of energy condition.
Somehow people have spun triggered to simply mean angry. It's just a synonym for angry at this point, which doesn't make sense.
Sure, but people should also learn to get over things. And I believe it's okay to joke about any subject.
If I play an MMORPG I see somebody in chat say "I'm triggered" multiple times while playing it. It's very annoying because I don't think these people understand what it even means.
luke lee probably don't and don't care. If it's in a group you can just leave if it's in your guild clan company whatever you can say something like "you know what that word really means right??"
THANK YOU.
Bravo!
"I'm an anarchist dammit! Ain't nobody going to tell me to brush my hair." -LSR probably
Why do you...care about his hair?
@@Marc-cq6ev I don't man. It's just a joke 😂
usually tends to be people who are privileged enough to have never experienced psychological trauma to be the ones making "triggered" jokes
I like that you keep looking down. Clean your room!!!
Good video
Finally! Love your videos. Hope you’re well :)
Just wondering what you're doing with yourself man. Are you like a university political tutor or anything?
Apparently skin care triggers your fight or flight response.
The burden of avoiding something that offends you is on you and not the person that says something. Look, Everybody is offend by something, you don't have a right not to be offended, you do have the right to say something offensive though.
"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." -Noam Chomsky
Being traumatised =/= being offended
Sand Theb you're right... But that isn't what this video is about it all.
Sand Theb I offend by something
Sand Theb BTW believing in free speech is kinda like a religious dogma now? I believe in freedom proper, not in political freedoms.
That being said how would one confront someone misusing the word trigger as a defense to political opinion they dont agree with
You use the thing that the right likes to reference over and over again: Science. You could link them to a scientific study which shows that people who have suffered some kind of trauma in the past can be plunged into a negative mental state if they are reminded of that traumatic event, and that their misuse of the term is making people with mental health problems afraid to use it in case people laugh at them. Then again, they might just respond back with "tHiS iS jUsT pUtTiNg FeElInGs OvEr FaCtS lIbTaRd LoL gEt ReKt!!!!!1!!!!1!!11!!!1".
@@alexanderhall5579 that would assume that the person you are conversing with cares for science or isnt triggered by it.
Cause you know facts are scary
TheMegaladon Facts are not absolute. Beliefs are scary, they are absolute. You can revise your understanding of any fact with further investigation, you can't revise baseless beliefs. Science is never absolute. Religion of science, positivism is.
TheMegaladon in person? Give them The Look. You know the one. The "the shit I scraped off my boot is higher in my regard than you." Look. And then pretend they don't exist.
Online? Declare yourself the winner if they use it I guess. They hate losing most of all.
@@i-never-look-at-replies-lol You don't have many friends do you?
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I'm not sure I agree with this. There's been many things in my past that "trigger" me, I suppose. Or better yet, I've gone through things that I don't like thinking back on. A few things just put me in a certain mood, things I'll never be able to get over and just ignore. They happened and it's never going to go away.
But people making jokes about these subjects, I don't mind that. There's a few things people can easily make a joke about. But that doesn't mean they're talking light about the subject or that these issues are now trivial. I can't agree with that idea.
I have Turkish friends and my "darkest" joke is about them refusing to admit to the genocide of Armenian people. Is it particularly funny? Not really, it's only funny because it hits so hard on their political situation and beliefs. But after the joke has been made, there's no reason for any of us to have any bad feelings about each other. Same way I don't mind the jokes that relate to me.
Yes I struggle with some of these things, but a joke at the end of the day is still a joke. I think the intent of a joke is what matters most.
A friend of mine makes jokes about domestic violence all the time, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be upset that my dad used to hit me. He isn't saying it to make it seem like my father hitting me was some trivial thing that happened or that my pain isn't real.
no no no no no.
Omg lol the amount of strawmen in this comment section is astounding :D
Hey man if you had a chance to be with Lauren Southern would you even though she's right wing?
I'd rather eat my own faeces
@@ElectricUnicycleCrew Haha. Do you have a left wing gf then?
I hope to find one some day!
I've had experiences before where someone has put me off with bad politics. I'm fairly charitable so long as they aren't racist, transphobic and so on. I do think that when it comes to finding partners you have to leave some elbow room as learning new things from the people you meet that are different to you is a good experience.
@@ElectricUnicycleCrew Do you know a lot of trans people or something? What do you get out of being around non whites? Had a heterogeneous agenda not been shoved down your throat by elites who want to divide and conquer Britain you wouldn't even care.
It means you are flipping out over something that if you were being proportional, and level headed, you would not.
I don’t know if the right is necessarily to blame for the excessive misuse of the word “triggered” when the left used it as a serious term to begin with to describe being offended in a discussion, but I agree with the points overall.
Life is full of triggers. Trying to remove them from the world is pointless. Quit crying about it and spend that energy on developing coping skills. Spare us from this man-baby bullshit that is infecting our society.
Yes, but the responsibility to remove the trigger rests on the triggered in most cases. In other words, it shouldn't be used to censor others in most cases. To use the football example, if you went to a football stadium and asked them to remove all the football's so you can feel better, that isn't OK. You can not go to the stadium. Now if people are coming to your flat and throwing footballs in, that is another story.
I also agree the misappropriation of the term for simple offense does the most damage to it.
The football stadium in this situation is a trigger warning, the person knows there are footballs in it. If they're just getting coffee and the barista throws a football at them, that kinda sucks, yea? It might not be the barista's fault, they didn't know, that's why the affected would then tell the barista what the trigger was, and everyone would come away knowledgeable and not accidentally hurting each other. It's not censorship, it's empathy.
pogogo51 for sure, 115% agree. But unfortunately it is often the football stadium case that many try to wield.
Triggered is a hypnosis term
This video triggered me ⚽️🏈
I think the only way we can safely joke about sensitive things like this is when we fully get a communist civilization. Without systems of opression present, a joke can't be use as a weapon, but as what it meant to be: a relief of the problems we face day by day.
Being "triggered" is known as making a scene if you don't get your way again
triggered means your last video about leninism
I think most people have no problem with a person with real ptsd or other real issues dealing with trauma. The mentally healthy person that is using triggered bc they are offended or worse, just virtue signaling is the type of person(s) that the others using the word triggered are targeting.
Most people dealing with real trauma are usually not bothered by the person(s) trolling the faker bc the real trauma survivors are aware that the pretender needs to be called out bc the poser(s) are the ones that ACTUALLY hurt the real trauma survivors and their causes.
It would be great if everyone would listen to rational discussion. However, sometimes you have to show someone how ridiculous they look before they get it.
Except that it can often be difficult to tell the difference between someone with real trauma and a 'faker'. One should never assume fakery just because they find the trauma described to be laughable.
Dragonfly B!tch Eventually Bauer how do you tell when someone is a real trauma survivor. What psychic knowledge do you have that tells you this.
So y'all are saying that all these people flipping out and claiming to be "triggered" by Pres Trump being elected really have serious trauma over it?
My fave the white people that are triggered bc they claim some other white person is appropriating some other race's culture bc of hair style or costume?
The people shouting down others bc they can't handle another's opinion and cries when they don't get their way so they claim that other person nicely expressing a difference of opinion and willing to agree to disagree but since that person won't change their mind the yelling maniac says the other person triggered them.
That's the shit I'm talking about. I would never tell a rape victim, a victim of any violence, war vet, etc or any other person that claimed to have PTSD and said they have certain triggers, that they were lying or make fun of them. If you can't tell the difference between an ass or a brat and some one sincere, you have alot more growing to do
STFU.... GTFO wit that BS
Dragonfly B!tch Eventually Bauer People have claimed they were triggered by Donald Trump being elected? Can you back that up?
mightberachelbutidk Yep, I agree with you so much.
Learn how to memorize your monologues... damn non-theater kids.
Secular Satanist I normally just improvise what I say lol
This isn't how words work.
It has another less popular use, “set off/activate”.
Meh. I say whatever I want.
YourComputerExpert why is it when confronted with "hey please don't say this, its impolite" yall have stereotypical childlike responses of "WAAAAH I DO WHAT I WANT ):
@@frankmorrow4923 So I am immature and childlike just because I don't comply with someone's request? Personally, I am not going to take into account every single disorder and person who can get offended every time I say something. To extend this, I have dealt with PTSD myself from childhood. Now in my late 20's and after years of (EMDR) therapy it basically lessend to a degree where I no longer get 'triggered' during every day life. Honestly, if people with PTSD get offended by people using the word 'triggered', they should stop taking everything in life so serious and personal. Overexaggerating to prove a point happens constantly. People do it all the time. CammehYaBams gave us something to consider and think about, and I decided not to agree with it. Simple as that.
YourComputerExpert I have ptsd as well, for me its the fact that the word has been stripped of its medical meaning, which is obvious because you're using it in quotations. And the fact its like y'all act like we're trying to rob you of your freedom of speech when its just "please be polite to people" which I don't get why its so hard just to remove a word from your vocabulary.
@@frankmorrow4923 I understand completely that it can feel impolite when people talk about being triggered, while you are *actually* dealing with those problems. However, I don't think most people who use the word 'triggered', actually mean being triggered like someone with PTSD. Triggering someone could just simply mean that you are invoking a response within someone else. I don't think the word should be reserved only when talking about people with PTSD just because their meaning behind the same word is much more serious and impactful to their everyday life. The medical meaning behind it is only important when talking to someone about it within the proper context, like explaining to a loved one how you feel or discussing your problems with a therapist. I doubt it will lose it's meaning within those situations, so personally I feel like it's a bit pointless to fight everyone 'misusing' the word.
YourComputerExpert it isn't just ptsd, like my OCD has certain triggers, like if I step on a crack on the floor or sidewalk. Phobias have triggers as well, so does depression, schizophrenia, bpd, paranoia, and a whole shitload of other mental disorders. Even things that aren't necessary mental disorders such as gender dysphoria have triggers, but the problem arises when (mainly those on the right) mock the strawman of anyone who says "i'm triggered" or "that can be a trigger"