For heat metal, since it doesn't change in cost or damage between full plate armour or a small dagger, it makes me think the caster isn't heating the whole thing but rather a similarly sized point on a metal item. Random unconnected thought about D&D magic for no reason apart from thinking it while watching this: Magic schools would be riddled with magic mouths as arcane graffiti. They are a lower level to cast than dispel magic, can be cast as a ritual to not even waste a spell slot, and last until dispelled.
Assuming the same everything except mass, changing that to 0.5 kg, we get 184485 Joules of heat energy. If we were to apply that to a whole suit of armor that would introduce a new mechanic of keeping warm in arctic environments. That could heat up a large suit of armor about 10 degrees C (18 F), which could be quite helpful if it got too cold.
That doesn't work. Steel has a high heat conductivity (if that's the English term) which means that heat spreads fast in it. You can confirm this easily by holding a spoon on one tip and a lighter to the other tip
There are quite a lot of spells that can be calculated for energy but what I am curious about is what type of animate object is most energy significant given movement speed.
polymorph is even stranger, convert a 10 gram mouse into a 20 ton dragon, you need to make that 20 tons of mass, no momentum so you can use the simplified equasion e = mc^2 C = 3x10^8 speed of light in meters. squared is 9x10^16 M is in kg so 20000 or 2x10^4 E = 1.8x10^21 or 1.8 zetta jouls, forget how many trillion years of house powering that is, we're talking glassing all life off earth energy here, or that the wizard needed to eat 9x10^14 large pizzas, or in other words, enough food for every person on earth for about over 300 years!
The volume of the moon is 2.2*10^19 cubic meters, which with the density of steel being 7850 kg per cubic meter, which means the mass of the moon is 1.727*10^23, or 172700000000000000000000 kg. The average temperature of the moon is (according to the internet) roughly 17 degrees C, meaning that our ΔT is 728. Plugging that all into the Q=mcΔT equation leaves us with Q=(1.727*10^23)*502*728=6.31*10^28, or 63100000000000000000000000000 Joules. That's way more energy than anybody would ever need. Ever.
It’d be cool to design super advanced cities that have facilities operated by mages. You could run a steam power infrastructure with the heat metal spell you described in your video. Another application example would be with the drow; Menzoberranzan’s Narbondel infra vision ‘clock’ would make more sense if their chief wizard was heating a metal rod embedded in the column rather than heating the rock column itself.
Fascinating explanation and comparison. I’d love to see more videos from you and see your channel grow. D&D channels I subscribe to have seen a substantial increase in viewership when incorporating Baldurs Gate 3. Having just won game of the year, this may be the best opportunity to capitalize on the same. I understand this hasn’t been the focus of your channel prior, but if you have any interest, I can imagine many scientific facts one could explore by extrapolating from it.
Love this, never expected to use my knowlege of latent heat for dnd but that it absolutely hilarious. The trains in my setting while have to convert to clean spellcaster energy from now on 😂 Or, I can leave that for the future once that region's done rebuilding from the conflict.
This is why I prefer GURPS; Every D&D-like spell is made up of smaller physics-like spells. You literally have to learn "Heat", and a half dozen other spells, before you even get close to something like "Fireball", much less "Exploding Fireball".
Interesting your topic and last name of Stokes if that is your last name, my First DM was a Stokes, love to see the D&D Stuff getting Nerdy, I tend to do that myself a ton.
Check out the magic system from mage: ascension. White wolf has a better way of doing free form magic. (Be careful because some spells can screw you over.)
1.21 Gigawatts! But anyway, as specific as these wordings and effects get it is kind of a shame that they aren't more tuned to (simplified) realism. Obviously up to the DM, but I could see a situation (as example) of someone repeatedly heating the biggest metal object they can find then dropping it in a lake to evaporate and make it rain. Really, how would someone rule that if the intention was known? How would they calculate how many casts required? It's just so silly that size and SHC aren't factors but I can see why for play purposes.
And this is why scientists have trouble performing magic. Because magic is a function of belief and consciousness; understanding the physics actually makes it much harder initally to manually operate their consciousness to perform the nessisary effect. It's an inverse bell curve, similar to the Dunning-Kruger effect - and only when, and if, the scientist learns the mental discipline of purposely believing things they know are not true, can they regain their magical aptitude. Such mages are capable on on-the-fly spell manipulation of incredible precision, such as heating metal only to a specific degree. This has also lead some of the more esoteric philosophers to conclude, that magic is the informational equivalent of entropy. By initially rewarding ignorance and schema-based thought with power, magic is directly responsible for keeping the technological levels of many societies low for eons. Blending magic and technology, requires monk-levels of mental discipline, and is completely unteachable, uncommunicable. The closest that can be done, is giving students the tools to rediscover mental techniques on their own, and sifting for those who are able to make the mental leaps required.
I first did the energy it would take to break all the bonds in water of a human (which is about 1.2 Billion Joules) then I did an elephant which is about 114 Billion Joules and that's only the water so a bit more than that
This is the kinda stuff I want to see. Science and magic, that’s lit
When you combine practical sciences with the imagination of an artist, magic is exactly what happens.
It's perfect
For heat metal, since it doesn't change in cost or damage between full plate armour or a small dagger, it makes me think the caster isn't heating the whole thing but rather a similarly sized point on a metal item.
Random unconnected thought about D&D magic for no reason apart from thinking it while watching this: Magic schools would be riddled with magic mouths as arcane graffiti. They are a lower level to cast than dispel magic, can be cast as a ritual to not even waste a spell slot, and last until dispelled.
Assuming the same everything except mass, changing that to 0.5 kg, we get 184485 Joules of heat energy. If we were to apply that to a whole suit of armor that would introduce a new mechanic of keeping warm in arctic environments. That could heat up a large suit of armor about 10 degrees C (18 F), which could be quite helpful if it got too cold.
That doesn't work. Steel has a high heat conductivity (if that's the English term) which means that heat spreads fast in it. You can confirm this easily by holding a spoon on one tip and a lighter to the other tip
There are quite a lot of spells that can be calculated for energy but what I am curious about is what type of animate object is most energy significant given movement speed.
When you're an Artificer vs a Wizard.
As a burgeoning chemist, I loved the video!!!
Still makes more sense than how weapons work in DnD
As someone who avoided math like the plague this was really interesting
polymorph is even stranger, convert a 10 gram mouse into a 20 ton dragon, you need to make that 20 tons of mass, no momentum so you can use the simplified equasion e = mc^2 C = 3x10^8 speed of light in meters.
squared is 9x10^16
M is in kg so 20000 or 2x10^4
E = 1.8x10^21 or 1.8 zetta jouls, forget how many trillion years of house powering that is, we're talking glassing all life off earth energy here, or that the wizard needed to eat 9x10^14 large pizzas, or in other words, enough food for every person on earth for about over 300 years!
now imagine you have a moon sized piece of manufactured metal and use heat metal on that
The volume of the moon is 2.2*10^19 cubic meters, which with the density of steel being 7850 kg per cubic meter, which means the mass of the moon is 1.727*10^23, or 172700000000000000000000 kg. The average temperature of the moon is (according to the internet) roughly 17 degrees C, meaning that our ΔT is 728. Plugging that all into the Q=mcΔT equation leaves us with Q=(1.727*10^23)*502*728=6.31*10^28, or 63100000000000000000000000000 Joules. That's way more energy than anybody would ever need. Ever.
I once did some quick dynamic physics math and found the fastest a fairly normal character can achieve is roughly 70 mph
It’d be cool to design super advanced cities that have facilities operated by mages. You could run a steam power infrastructure with the heat metal spell you described in your video.
Another application example would be with the drow; Menzoberranzan’s Narbondel infra vision ‘clock’ would make more sense if their chief wizard was heating a metal rod embedded in the column rather than heating the rock column itself.
Loved this. Thanks for the napkin math! Don't forget, cows are spherical!
Fascinating explanation and comparison. I’d love to see more videos from you and see your channel grow. D&D channels I subscribe to have seen a substantial increase in viewership when incorporating Baldurs Gate 3. Having just won game of the year, this may be the best opportunity to capitalize on the same. I understand this hasn’t been the focus of your channel prior, but if you have any interest, I can imagine many scientific facts one could explore by extrapolating from it.
"It's magic. I don't have to explain shit."
But DM quotes/jokes aside, great video. Very interesting take. :)
Dont tell this guy about two bags of holding put one into another
Good work, I'll recommend you to my friends.
peasant railgun physics when
I've always seen wizards as the fantasy version of scientists. Loads of study to reveal and manulipulate the laws of the universe
Love this, never expected to use my knowlege of latent heat for dnd but that it absolutely hilarious. The trains in my setting while have to convert to clean spellcaster energy from now on 😂
Or, I can leave that for the future once that region's done rebuilding from the conflict.
My magnetics artificer is going the distance
This is why I prefer GURPS; Every D&D-like spell is made up of smaller physics-like spells.
You literally have to learn "Heat", and a half dozen other spells, before you even get close to something like "Fireball", much less "Exploding Fireball".
Interesting your topic and last name of Stokes if that is your last name, my First DM was a Stokes, love to see the D&D Stuff getting Nerdy, I tend to do that myself a ton.
Check out the magic system from mage: ascension. White wolf has a better way of doing free form magic. (Be careful because some spells can screw you over.)
1.21 Gigawatts!
But anyway, as specific as these wordings and effects get it is kind of a shame that they aren't more tuned to (simplified) realism. Obviously up to the DM, but I could see a situation (as example) of someone repeatedly heating the biggest metal object they can find then dropping it in a lake to evaporate and make it rain. Really, how would someone rule that if the intention was known? How would they calculate how many casts required? It's just so silly that size and SHC aren't factors but I can see why for play purposes.
Novel and entertaining! This video deserves way more attention :)
Hell yea dnd is fir everyone
You can use necromancy to make a mechanical computer.
And this is why scientists have trouble performing magic.
Because magic is a function of belief and consciousness; understanding the physics actually makes it much harder initally to manually operate their consciousness to perform the nessisary effect.
It's an inverse bell curve, similar to the Dunning-Kruger effect - and only when, and if, the scientist learns the mental discipline of purposely believing things they know are not true, can they regain their magical aptitude.
Such mages are capable on on-the-fly spell manipulation of incredible precision, such as heating metal only to a specific degree.
This has also lead some of the more esoteric philosophers to conclude, that magic is the informational equivalent of entropy.
By initially rewarding ignorance and schema-based thought with power, magic is directly responsible for keeping the technological levels of many societies low for eons.
Blending magic and technology, requires monk-levels of mental discipline, and is completely unteachable, uncommunicable.
The closest that can be done, is giving students the tools to rediscover mental techniques on their own, and sifting for those who are able to make the mental leaps required.
What about Disintegrate? Reducing something living to atoms should require a bunch of energy
I first did the energy it would take to break all the bonds in water of a human (which is about 1.2 Billion Joules) then I did an elephant which is about 114 Billion Joules and that's only the water so a bit more than that
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