Honest thoughts on Jaya? Both in the past and now in the present? Also the only thing more dreadful than this arc was re-rendering and uploading this video 12 times to get past copyright
@@NinjaColeYT I think it was and still is cute,but I feel like it doesn't go anywhere (I didn't watch Dragons Rising Season 2 part 2,so I don't know what happens there). And after I watched the Video,yeah they're a bit toxic, but I feel like when they are together, they are sweet
I am indeed a madman that liked the love triangle😭✊🏼 but I love Jaya and I was rooting for them from the start, I knew they would end up together even through allat mess. Idk it just added drama, maybe unnecessary but drama nevertheless
In the past (seasons 3-6) their relationship wasn’t the greatest mainly because of the love triangle, but from seasons 8 and onward I liked their relationship. There wasn’t really any drama and their moments were cute
@@poptrop459 tbh if I was writing the show, I would’ve made Cole interested in nya, and have jay become a villain because of it, they’ve already compared them to Wu Garmadon, and Loyd’s mom anyways.
@@w1nther930 if he was a victim, he would’ve called Nia out for causing all of this at some point, instead of participating in jay’s bad breath competition, and telling him to let the tiger widow to bite him! Trust me, Cole is just as much to blame as Nia!
@@greygaston1263 please. Jay walks in and antagonizes Cole for reasons he is completely unaware of. Jay never listened to reason and began to throw hands, tf is he supposed to do? That bad breath shit was for more comedic purposes, they may as well just have been throwing punches or elements
What's funny is even as a kid, I thought to myself why would Nya like Cole? They interact, but it didn't seem like Cole had so much interest in Nya, and Jay and Nya did spend time with each other and were worried for each other. To make it worse, in the same episode where Jay and Nya were on a date, Jay was turning into a Snake and Nya revealed to the others and Jay she was the Samurai, Cole explicitly said he wish he had a sister like Nya. Meaning he only see her as a friend and nothing more.
Maybe they intended making Jay irrationally angry for comedy's sake, and the narrative does paint him being stupid! But yeah, lampshading not makes something good alone, something should get done about them.
I am convinced Cole only played along with this because he wanted to piss Jay off nothing more. Like if my best friend beat me up because some he claimed I was trying to take the girl he was interested in I'd be pissed too. Tho the more rational thing would be stop talking to him which Cole couldn't exactly do when they're trying to save the world atm. Then he did the simpler thing and stoped talking to him.
Even i was confused and stopped watching the season when I saw that crap. Yeah no joke, that love triangle is what stopped me from watching season 3, it was absolutely awful.
@@virtualcolt this is why i never watched season 3 again unlike the other seasons. Like... All this because an AI computer decided who was a better match for nya is just ridiculous! The first time i saw that, was the last time. As a jay fan, it'a like im the heartbroken one lol (sorry if i yapped alot)
Fun fact: Cole never loved Nya. He was only confused on why he got all the special attention he got from Nya. And Also Even Tommy Andreson hated the Love triangle. And this just proves on how pointless it is.
@@erikbihari3625I don’t know. Probably Lego wanted a love triangle. Those dirty scum bags clearly didn’t know what people wanted. No one cares about the love triangle. And I never cared about the love triangle. Im too busy with the lore. Here’s one peice of lore that the love triangle has: Those three have poor communication skills.
@@zakgaming4194. Not like there hawen't been any good ones, for example Kirby Morrow, cole's actor been cyclops for XMen evolution, and the love triangle between his character, Jean gray and rogue work! Can you imagine something like that for Ninjago?
As dumb as the start of this plot point was, all it really did was show the issues in Jaya from the start: Jay's obsession and Nya letting other things define her. And this is all stuff they sorted out during Skybound, with Jay being called out on his creepy behavior and Nya coming clean about how she keeps on these labels and outside factors define her and her relationships, when she's the one who should be choosing for herself (even though I thought of Nya as more self-assured)
So even if the catalyst for all this drama is dumb as heck, I can at least recognize that it exposed the cracks in Jay and Nya's relationship when it was at its infancy, and I can accept that they grew up after that. And honestly? Teens do dumber stuff than this, so I can tolerate it. I've seen worse IRL, trust me.
@@dangerbuffrockyUnpopular opinion: I still don't think they should have gotten together. Just imagine how much more powerful the message, our first obsessions and passions aren't always the best road to take in life or how it actually shows Nya is independent of any prophecies or visions or whatever, and that those visions were mere constructs by the Ninja. All are more interesting options. Especially as Jay and Nya's relationship has received no further actual development in the dynamic or anything else past Season 6.
To be honest, when I was a kid I really found this arc annoying. I was actually all for the relationship between Jay and Nya, but this arc really tested my patience. It didn't help that I unlucky missed the parts of the rebooted where there was shown that Cole wasn't at fault at all for this, which made me hate him for no reason. But eventually, after fully seeing those moments in the reruns, I understood that it was the other way around. You won't believe how happy I was at the end of The Skybound to see this arc finally end on a positive note.
As a kid I was so bummed out that they included the love triangle arc but not enough General Cryptor and Pixel/Zane screentime in Rebooted and not enough screentime for the other participants in Tournament Of Elements 💀
the elemental masters were literally the most interesting thing to kid me, especially skylar! I stopped after the sky pirate season, idk it they used them at all but I was still disappointed 🧍🏼♀️
Exactly! The tournament of elements participants were all so unique and I LOVE pixel x Zane and after pixel 'kinda' died and then revived but she BARELY gets screentime and isn't even a character anymore I'm so pissed 😭
Exactly! The tournament of elements participants were all so unique and I LOVE pixel x Zane and after pixel 'kinda' died and then revived but she BARELY gets screentime and isn't even a character anymore I'm so pissed 😭
My headcannon for the love triangle is that the overlord was trying to start his plan of tearing the ninja apart with having jay and Cole turn against each other so he fucked with the love machine to say Cole was nya’s perfect partner not jay and it only really started to boil during the tournament of elements
Misako is the most under utilized character in the entire series (Pixel is a close second). She is such an interesting character and there’s so much they could do with her and the show does absolutely nothing with her
I feel the same way, they don't write on her enough and just made her a character to throw in sometimes. Like Maya and Ray have more writing and more backstory than her.
Yea Misako is just used to give expesition also I think Skylor can be third on that list she should have joined the team at some point if not in season 4 then maybe in season 9 they should have developed the romance between her and Kai more and flesh out her dynamics between the other ninja then you also have the ponytail trio (Nya,Pixal,Skylor)
@@Marlin123 Tournament of elements was more about Zane and Lloyd. It was about Zane in a way cuz they only accepted the invitation to find Zane. It was also about Lloyd a little bit as what appeared to be the "final showdown" was between Lloyd and Chen. Kai never got his season like the rest of them.
@@CrimsonIronclad1-k6z if you come to think about it Zane barely got any of his own scenes in his own season, it just seemed like it because of his sacrafice.
I'm pretty sure the writers realized just how fucking stupid they had been with nya on season 3 so they decided to ignore what happened and made her good again on season 6
As someone who loves Jay a lot, also hated this so much just because it was really a waste of actual screen time that could’ve been on better stuff and I do love the tension between coal and Jay most of the time but they were not cooking with this. Also, I feel like Jay doesn’t really get a lot of cool stuff like new powers, he mostly has just gotten tortured, make constant jokes throughout the show, which somewhere funny but not all and make mistakes which everyone gets mad at him for then he has to make up for those mistakes, it would be cool to give him something good other than his relationship with Nya. plus in the very beginning the relationship wasn’t even that stable, almost all the other ninjas have better relationships than he does.
@@kastenedwards1217 Lloyd is always getting cool stuff and it is very important to the story which make sense, Kai doesn’t get to spend a lot of time with his love interest but their relationship was always kind of healthy plus him and his sister got to meet the parents, he also sacrificed himself recently. Coal was a ghost so he had cool ghost powers and have sacrificed herself multiple times, he has cool magma hands and even has a new power, a possible love interest and got to hear how his mother was a hero. Zane has sacrificed his self a couple times as well, he’s the most unique out of the group with the whole thing an android and he has a healthy relationship with his love interest, he got to meet his creator. Nya started out as a cool samurai then became the water ninja, she was incredibly important in stopping the ghost and she literally became a part of the entire ocean. there’s also the fact both of them are teachers and same with Lloyd, Jay on the other hand has barely anything compared to them, they constantly try to make him comedy relief so he doesn’t get as much character development as the others and almost everything I can list about him is he making a mistake and then having to fix it while everyone’s mad at him. it’s pretty often He does stupid stuff and doesn’t learn from his license even though he should, I love him a lot but if it’s not making a mistake or suffering from a mistake then there’s literally nothing else to say about him. He literally has only popped up in the newest season two or three times, so quite literally everyone except Jay has gotten an incredible amount of development or something interesting.
@@kctheshadowman9651 I agree with you but Acting like jay Hasn’t got nothing special it’s crazy, literally the main couple of Ninjago beside Zane and pixel and after that the writers don’t care about no one else. Jay Defeated 2 main villains while even to this day Kai still haven’t ,cinder doesn’t count as a main villain, him and Skyler barley had a relationship and she still missing .plus for some reason they really want Kai to be stupid for some reason nya his own sister calling him stupid after Sacrificing himself in season 2 part 2 . Lloyd, cole and nya are the only one to got a power up Kai and Zane still haven’t gotten nothing and ofc jay too. Jay also made the first bounty fly, gave the water bounty power and can invent things, let not act like jay doesn’t have a lot of thing going for him while also zane who hasn’t been special since season 3 technically he actually apart of the ninja team and still nothing with him at least right now. Plus there a reason why I said half the ninja team since cole,Lloyd and nya would be the other half.
@@kastenedwards1217 I understand your point of you but I plainly just disagree, Kai was one of the main reasons that snake dude that could steal powers was defeated and I don’t remember and I don’t remember Jay defeating any main villains, he helped start the evil Jen, but that was because of poison he had to get as everyone was mad at him for partially causing a lot of shit to happen and your point with him inventing thing is just like me bringing up Zane being robotic. he did that in the first two seasons and then Zane or Nay would do it, plus now we literally have someone with tech powers so that’s another person to take that. I will admit Kai is called dumb a lot but that’s mostly from his own sister which is expected and the same happens to Jay, also I’m not completely sure if Kai or Zane got any new powers but they definitely have had things to explore them as characters, they were both villains at one point because of influence from weapons and they’ve came to understand their powers even better or robotics there’s been multiple times Zane being a robot has been useful even later. I love Jay and I’m not saying he doesn’t get more than most side characters, but he’s gotten way less than any of the other main cast and most of what he has is related to him making mistakes and having to fix them like I said before. He barely ever invent things throughout the entire show, because of his stupid wishing his father is a famous actor and his mother was the master of lightning by then that whole season is erased because of going back in time and none of them even remember any of that, we never hear about his parents ever again so that’s a pretty good example of something he has way less than the others. I mean he was adopted which I loved his step parents but they gave him something just like all the others then just never used it. So again I understand your point but I see it from a different point of you and I watch the show several times..
Ninjago is such an odd series because it's been going for over a decade, has a devoted fanbase and it has all of this lore and fandom talk, theories and controversies... but basically no one talks about it outside of the devoted fans, like, you don't see people posting on Twitter about how their favorite ship is ruined or how the last season wasn't as good as the other ones like you usually see with other modern shows.
It’s weird how after Rebooted, Wu’s Academy doesn’t get brought up, referenced, or shown in the following seasons. In fact, it’s hard to place Rebooted on an exact date as each of the seasons in the original show happened a year after each other, due to The Ninjago Timeline being a concrete mess.
Not each season is after a year, Hunted is only a couple weeks maximum after SoG. MotO also can't be much longer I think S11 was also mentioned to be just several months after 10.
I hated how Nya acted towards Jay in season 6. She literally starts the whole season by getting mad at Jay for saying ‘we.’ Like what do you mean ‘we’? You’ve been in a relationship since season 1. Why do you have to be an independent girl boss who’s too good to be with a guy?
To her defense, I believe her and Jay were taking a break from their relationship, technically they weren't together and with the whole part about the Ninja fans treating her like she wasn't a part of the team, she felt left out, so I get why she was upset, and Jay being pushy didn't help her either.
They were on a break by Season 6. She wasn't trying to be an independent girl boss, Jay was being too obsessive and she got tired of being defined by her relationships instead of her as a persom.
To me, personally, it's totally understandable like, everyone only saw her as "the girl" or "the ninja girl" of the group and she was called that in NGTV News and interviews of Ninjago, and was feeling pressured to answer if she was in love with Jay or not, they were in a break of their relationship, and was not being seen as one of the team, just "the girl", I'd be pissed too ngl.
Never in my life did I think there would be a channel that would talk about Ninjago (i sort of watched it over the recent years), so Thumbs Up to you man.
Personally I absolutely adore Skybounds ending. It’s my favorite ending to any season. Skybound is arguably the darkest season of the entire show and I love it for that. With Pixel dying and Ninjago city being destroyed I feel like there’s really no way they could’ve ended the season without erasing everything since at the end of the day, Ninjago is a kids show and status quo is God. I think the writers did a fantastic job at making the erasure of everything that happens in Skybound work really well. Nadakhan constantly twists peoples words in order to get what he wants and he easily could’ve twisted Jay‘s wish but he couldn’t because he was too busy being in excruciating pain. Jays wish “I wish you had taken my hand and nobody had found that teapot in the first place” hits so damn hard for me. Everything that happened in Skybound didn’t technically happen, but it also did at the same time and nobody remembers it except for Jay and Nya. Jay and Nya we’re in the center of Skybound so it makes sense that they would be the only ones to remember everything and they get to keep all of their character development I’m fine with the erasure of everything else. Also one of the writers said that Nadakhan remembers Skybound to so if the show ever decides to do anything with the constant teases of him returning, then boy is he going to be pissed
@@Clanceetbh skybound is the definition of a bad ninjago season it is enjoyable but every character is just a dumbahh for no reason except cole and Zane, in addition to what is in this vid you got Lloyd wasting his last wish on a sword instead of teleporting them to safety kai's simply obnoxious to an insane degree and nadahan sure you could make the argument that he didn't know that the sword trap souls by just striking poeple but he strikes the teapot with it and it trapes the souls inside of it but sure I will ignore that, but you can't ignore the fact that he could make clansy wish the ninja into his sword and on the topic of wishes they don't make any sense 1st some times nadaKhan straight up doesn't do some wish like with kai's 2nd wish and Zane 's 3rd wish 2nd if you could wish it all away and the sword traps other people why like he did with clansy then y doesn't trap nadakhan and finally the season is literally a filler arc like imagin an entire 10 episodes and we only get 1)the consept of gins 2)a new realm and 3)the fact that that realm is in ruins and everyone in there is dead In conclusion skybound is bad
Bruh this happens every time somebody just mentions Skybound. People argue so much about whether it’s good or not. It’s hysterical. Skybound is fantastic imo, it definitely has problems but what it does right it does so well that I don’t even care
The fact that the only reason we got great episodes like Versus and the Last Resort was because Nya let a computer tell her who she should be into is the dumbest thing this show has ever done, and also Blackout is my least favorite episode of the whole show.
The one Jaya thing that annoys me: Nya never says she loves Jay! Jay says it MULTIPLE times and Nya only says it ONCE to the door of the building Jay was in and even then she didn't say it, she just mouthed it! (Spoilers for Ninjago Dragons Rising Season 2 Part 2 🡓) But she did FINALLY say I love you to his face in NGR Season 2 Part 2.....EXCEPT HES EVIL SO HE REPLIED WITH "And I will always hate you"! It B R O K E my heart!!!
There are many ways to express love other than saying it and remember she didn't grow up expressing love with words Jay had ed and Edna nya only had Kai and Kai is Kai there parents were kidnapped
The love triangle was shit. But Skybound was the best season. It gave Jay development. He started off unlikeable but became more. The season is great. It fixed the love the triangle. Jay was supposed to come off that way. It was to show his growth through the season. I also don’t like how it ended but the season overall was amazing.
Finally, someone brought this up again. I hated the love triangle plot with passion, even as a kid it was obvious to me that Cole had no romantic interest in Nya, the whole thing felt like the writers regretted making Jaya a thing so early on in the series, so my guesses are one, they weren't expecting the show to run for years and two, Jaya didn't have your regular lengthy love story progress, or atleast no onscreen romantic progress/development between them. So I guess the love triangle plot was kind of a restart/reboot/new beginning to their love story?? All in all, Jaya were a mess until later seasons , I guess writing love stories/couples weren't the previous writers' strongest point.
The Chad Cole not ever really liking Nya, made this ironically funny for me. It just ruins the characters to a full circle as it doesn’t really go anywhere.
Ngl if you think about it, the love triangle kinda snowballed into a net positive for the show. The jay and cole fight in the tournament is considered one of the best fights and episode by a lot of people, and skybound would've never happened without the s3 triangle and skybound is one of the best seasons in the show.
This arc actually made me hate Nya so much, season 5 and 9 made her a better character and now thanks to Dragons Rising started to make her one of my favorites. Btw justice for Cole!!!
I have a soft spot for Rebooted despite it being an imperfect season (mostly because of Zane and Pixal), but this was an arc I always had a gripe with. I will say that it made for the eventual great Jay and Cole moments in later seasons, but to ease my conscience, I've decided to hop on to the theory that The Overlord planted the whole thing to cause discourse amongst the ninja. Definitely a Jaya fan, but I like it best post-Skybound because it...messy at the start to say the least. Just subscribed by the way!
I 100% support your Jay, Nya, and Cole video as well as all your opinions because I agree with everything you said and I also support your reasoning for jay and nyas half toxic relationship because I myself personally can not stand season 3 however the only 3 things I love about Rebooted and here they are 1, I love every scene with Garmadon. 2, I also love the whole Zane Julien and Pixal love triangle because at least those 2 robots actually have zero arguments nor anything bad about themselves as a whole. And 3, I love the scene where General Cryptor and Pythor P Chumsworth talk about the overlord really Pythor is absolutely hilarious.
I don’t know if a writer on Ninjago said this or if a UA-camr suggested it but I heard from someone a while ago who made this suggestion that would’ve at least made this arc make sense- the Perfect Match machine was going to say Jay, but the Overlord hacked it and made it say Cole in order to drive a wedge between the ninja. This would make so much sense and help make the Overlord a more diabolical villain twisting and manipulating the ninja’s emotions and relationships to his advantage. What would also help is if Nya pointed out some of Cole’s best traits like his selflessness, his leadership skills and his ability to make friends. This way it would at least make sense as to why she thinks the machine might have picked him as her perfect match. With all this, it doesn’t make the love triangle more bearable but it at least helps it makes sense. Also I’m pretty sure the reason why Jay is only mad at Cole and not Nya in the Invitation is because he’s the world’s biggest simp towards her. And this season just proves it even more. He finds out that his friend is the perfect match for the girl of his dreams and instead of backing down or questioning anything, he just attacks Cole even though Cole doesn’t know what’s going on, which also shows Jay’s selfishness and immaturity. Basically to him, if he can’t have Nya, no one can.
My take on the Jay, Cole, Nya, love triangle was that the writers I think were hinting or at least trying to hint at Nya finding Cole more attractive than Jay because of how more mature Cole is compared to Jay. Throughout most of the series, Cole had displayed a much more manly strongman persona with an air of confidence in himself, whereas Jay while confident in his abilities, lacked some semblance of awareness regarding certain social cues and was known for being a tad childish with his video game addiction and his obsession with those sci-fi movies involving that one man who later turned out to be his biological father. And there's also the issue regarding Nya's personality as well. Despite describing herself as a strong independent woman, like many women do IRL, Nya rather paradoxically (also like many IRL women, let's be honest) either consciously or subconsciously seems to gravitate more towards Cole, a man who seems to more closely resemble an old school macho man. Indicating that she like many women her age (presuming she's in her mid 20s at the time) she, despite publicly expressing that she's more modern with her approach to dating and romance, secretly or subconsciously she actually seems to want a more traditionally ideal partner, a variable strong man who's much more readily able to defend, stand up for, and provide for her. But as the love triangle concludes (or in other words the writers finally gave up) with the end of the Jeeb arc, she eventually chooses Jay over Cole both because Cole doesn't really show any real interest in her and because she and Jay have had much more of an emotional history with each other and thus a stronger connection. And plus, realistically (as far as sci-fi / sci-fan stories go anyways), what woman wouldn't fall head over heels in love for you knowing that you altered TIME ITSELF to save you from dying from a poisonous accident? Unless there's some heinous plot armor or plot contriving involved, there's no reason Nya wouldn't choose Jay.
Honestly its just because they cant seem to figure out how they want jay to be written at times hes the comic relief and then he is just ignored cause they dont know what to do with him if they could figure out his character i could actually find jay a good character but now even in dragons rising they added him back annndd... he did nothing... welp sorry jay welcome back to being forgotten
@@kastenedwards1217 i did but i cant lie it was pretty pathetic how they added him back lol just threw him in cause crap cant wait too long all im saying is the could have not had him in season 2 p2 and nothing would change
As a former/returning fan from Ninjago, while I love the show, I would kill to see an anime adaptation of it. Could you imagine, they have everything planned out and ready since the original show happened and could remake the pilots and the first two seasons as three seasons of a high budget anime for ages 12+ . If that did well they could then move on to Rebooted stuff and onwards and improve the JayxNyaxCole thing by really diving into, I don't know, relationship troubles between Jay and Nya so when Jay learns about Cole being a perfect match we get to explore his struggle between feeling inadequate for Nya and his friendship with Cole. I'm just spitballing ideas here though
To anyone that thinks Nadhakan is a better villain than Moro, respectfully, you are not the brightest person. Nadhakan was just an annoying character. Every time he appeared he always tries to sound so big brain which I'll give him that, he was able to outsmart a nindroid, but it was by twisting his words and finding loopholes which Zane clearly said not to do. Moro's character showed that he was just a kid and couldn't fully understand the consequences of his actions until the very end. Nadhakan could've just gotten his crew back and chilled with them but nope, he wanted to take them to Djinjago since pirates had been "forgotten". When he saw his home realm falling apart (due to the ninja destroying the preeminant/cursed realm) he blamed the ninja and wanted revenge on them while before he had no idea of ANYTHING happening cuz he was trapped in a teapot. Also, if the ninja hadn't destroyed the cursed realm then Djinjago would've been cursed by the preeminant - which mind you would've been a much worse fate - and they didn't even know that they would end up destroying 2 realms in one. Not even Wu knew and from what we're shown, Lloyd and Moro didn't even end up in Djinjago so no one knew that realm existed let alone know that the cursed realm was the sister realm of Djinjago. Sure you could also say Moro was being a brat by wanting to become the green ninja but don't forget, Kai also wanted to be the green ninja but he was lucky enough to have 3 other ninja AND sensei Wu to guide him to not become evil. Nadhakan was also just a greedy djinn who wanted infinite wishes for himself so he could destroy everything which is why he wanted to marry Delara and ended up marrying Nya when he found out Delara was dead, he just wanted ultimate power (shocker). At least in the end Moro realised his mistake and sacrificed himself and gave the realm crystal to Wu but Nadhakan was just pure evil, Moro was broken. You can't convince me that Skybound was better than Possession, also, for most of Possession it was just straight hands without any nonsense drama or love triangle but Skybound had to dwell on the love drama between Nya and Jay which no one wanted but thank goodness they just used Skybound to fix their mistakes and sort out the drama. Imo Skybound was just a season to fix any mistakes they made and to sort out their insufferable love drama.
What’s so funny about rebooted is that near the end, they realise that they’ve done absolutely nothing with Kai and just decide to give him AN ENTIRE 20 EPISODE all to himself to help even it out. Like seriously, this was so random, I don’t think there’s ever been an episode focusing that much on one character ever since (not including only 10 minute episodes)
@@bluelemon243 It’s the episode before they go to space. Kai’s just in a car the entire time trying to see what the overlord is planing while chasing his cars, with pixel also being in commentary with him. The rest of the ninja don’t come right until the very end.
Honestly feel like they became a decent couple after skybound but SoG to present (excluding DR due to spoilerish reasons) does a great job at depicting them as a couple compared to early Jaya, one of my favorite fictional couples tbh.
It felt so pointless, COLE DIDN’T EVEN LIKE NYA HE JUST WANTED TO HATE JAY THIS WAS SO POINTLESS AND SHOULD’VE ENDED IN THE LATER PARTS OF S3 IT IS SO ANNOYING AND SO POINTLESS
10:51 That could've just been his pride talking or he's avoiding the awkwardness. He probably felt like he has to lie in the bed he made for himself and it be too awkward to try and see him. Think about it if you had a major falling out with your best friend time has passed and you miss them a lot but you never settled your issues its hard to just reach out especially if you're too stubborn to apologize.
MAN I HATE THE NYA WRITTING SO MUCH 😭😭😭😭😭😭 the creators trying so hard to say look we know how to make a good female character look she is A GIRL and she strong and dont wanna be in boys club and the same thing repeat all the time omg they thought they ate with this her whole character is about her being a girl no this is not how to write good female character just make it like the male character its not that hard 😭😭😭😭😭
@@elongatedmanforever1252 100% Not saying she’s the best. I still prefer other female characters in the show… I’m just saying she’s not as insufferable to watch as she was S3-S7! I like her more in some seasons than others, but she’ll never be one of my favorite characters lol
I didnt realise as kids that Cole vs Jay was about Nyah in tournaments of elements. And i also feel like the love story in Skybound was doable past episode 2. But then again i might be biased by my nostalgia
17:57 are you a madman who ships lloyd and Nya Me who ship them for a year when I was 8-9 😐🤮 I don't know why I shipped this is was probably because of the movie and season 8-9
i liked watching this, i enjoyed the actual lego as a kid but never watched past season 1 so it was cool to catch up a bit. also nice touch with all the frontiers music :)
As a Ninjago fan since pilots who has watched every season and episode withotu fail, including Dragons Rising, the love triangle and skybound is so infuriating I almost quit the show istg
Jay has always been my fav character, i always empathize with the funny character of the team, and i think he is the worst treated character by the franchise. Skybound was my fav season since it really developed jay’s character and he actually stood on his ground, being alone, watching all of his friends get taken down, him taking a beating almost every day, and at the end him making the right choices.
I think the whole computer thing was actually just the last push for Nya, not the sole reason she created all that drama. They were already going through a rough patch, so I’m assuming she wanted an excuse to get Jay off her back. And then in seasons 4-6 she remembers what made her like Jay so much in the first place
Honest thoughts on Jaya? Both in the past and now in the present?
Also the only thing more dreadful than this arc was re-rendering and uploading this video 12 times to get past copyright
I think they should have ended the love triangle like in season 2 no reason for season 3 to re start the love triangle
@@NinjaColeYT I think it was and still is cute,but I feel like it doesn't go anywhere (I didn't watch Dragons Rising Season 2 part 2,so I don't know what happens there). And after I watched the Video,yeah they're a bit toxic, but I feel like when they are together, they are sweet
I am indeed a madman that liked the love triangle😭✊🏼 but I love Jaya and I was rooting for them from the start, I knew they would end up together even through allat mess. Idk it just added drama, maybe unnecessary but drama nevertheless
Skybound is ASS
In the past (seasons 3-6) their relationship wasn’t the greatest mainly because of the love triangle, but from seasons 8 and onward I liked their relationship. There wasn’t really any drama and their moments were cute
I genuinely respect how the writers didn’t even TRY to make Cole interested in Nya at all. He was just mad at Jay 😂.
Bro was the victim here, he got caught in a crossfire
He came into the room, asked what tf was going on, and then jay just got so mad at him and cole was like:
What did I do?? 😭😭
@@poptrop459 tbh if I was writing the show, I would’ve made Cole interested in nya, and have jay become a villain because of it, they’ve already compared them to Wu Garmadon, and Loyd’s mom anyways.
@@w1nther930 if he was a victim, he would’ve called Nia out for causing all of this at some point, instead of participating in jay’s bad breath competition, and telling him to let the tiger widow to bite him!
Trust me, Cole is just as much to blame as Nia!
@@greygaston1263 please. Jay walks in and antagonizes Cole for reasons he is completely unaware of. Jay never listened to reason and began to throw hands, tf is he supposed to do? That bad breath shit was for more comedic purposes, they may as well just have been throwing punches or elements
So…all the melodrama between Jay, Nya and Cole was all because Nya let a Computer AI decide who she is most suitable for?!
Astrology be like:
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@@AnimemanistLOLLLLLL
I somehow remember this and I was dumbfounded to oblivion.
I headcanon it as the overlord trying to create division in the team
What's funny is even as a kid, I thought to myself why would Nya like Cole? They interact, but it didn't seem like Cole had so much interest in Nya, and Jay and Nya did spend time with each other and were worried for each other. To make it worse, in the same episode where Jay and Nya were on a date, Jay was turning into a Snake and Nya revealed to the others and Jay she was the Samurai, Cole explicitly said he wish he had a sister like Nya. Meaning he only see her as a friend and nothing more.
Maybe they intended making Jay irrationally angry for comedy's sake, and the narrative does paint him being stupid! But yeah, lampshading not makes something good alone, something should get done about them.
I am convinced Cole only played along with this because he wanted to piss Jay off nothing more. Like if my best friend beat me up because some he claimed I was trying to take the girl he was interested in I'd be pissed too. Tho the more rational thing would be stop talking to him which Cole couldn't exactly do when they're trying to save the world atm.
Then he did the simpler thing and stoped talking to him.
@ he could’ve just Pinned the blame on nya and let her and jay resolve things on their own, he wouldn’t even be in the wrong to do so!
As a kid I knew Cole didn't like nya
And did it to annoy jay
It says a lot when kids thought the Love Triangle was so stupid.
Even Tommy Andreason too thought it was stupid. 💀
@@brickbanditstudios6037Fr
Even i was confused and stopped watching the season when I saw that crap. Yeah no joke, that love triangle is what stopped me from watching season 3, it was absolutely awful.
@@estebangutierrez160 on an unrelated note: it’s nice to see another helluva boss fan.
@@virtualcolt this is why i never watched season 3 again unlike the other seasons. Like... All this because an AI computer decided who was a better match for nya is just ridiculous! The first time i saw that, was the last time. As a jay fan, it'a like im the heartbroken one lol (sorry if i yapped alot)
My thoughts of the Love Triangle can be summed up in these words: Disgraceful, Disgusting, Despicable
Minions
THOMAS REF
3 big engines refference
You can say to every weird jealous awkward love triangle that exists
THOMAS AND FRIENDS
Okay but real talk, we talk about this but not the fact Zain’s girlfriend is basically a voice in his head a lot in the show?? 💀
The voices in my head sound hot ngl
He just like me fr
Just Androids being androids, she might as well be his USB lol
“There’s a lady in my head who calls me stud muffin!”
@@supernovatv9514 nah bruh mine calls me the hard R (she wants me fr)
Fun fact: Cole never loved Nya. He was only confused on why he got all the special attention he got from Nya. And Also Even Tommy Andreson hated the Love triangle. And this just proves on how pointless it is.
Then why and how did this happened? Least Nickelodeon had the excuse that they already built brand out their couple dramas!
@@erikbihari3625I don’t know. Probably Lego wanted a love triangle. Those dirty scum bags clearly didn’t know what people wanted. No one cares about the love triangle. And I never cared about the love triangle. Im too busy with the lore. Here’s one peice of lore that the love triangle has: Those three have poor communication skills.
@@zakgaming4194. Doubt Lego would want this type publicity. You're just firing accusations into the dark!
@@erikbihari3625 True. Still, The love triangle sucks.
@@zakgaming4194. Not like there hawen't been any good ones, for example Kirby Morrow, cole's actor been cyclops for XMen evolution, and the love triangle between his character, Jean gray and rogue work! Can you imagine something like that for Ninjago?
As dumb as the start of this plot point was, all it really did was show the issues in Jaya from the start: Jay's obsession and Nya letting other things define her. And this is all stuff they sorted out during Skybound, with Jay being called out on his creepy behavior and Nya coming clean about how she keeps on these labels and outside factors define her and her relationships, when she's the one who should be choosing for herself (even though I thought of Nya as more self-assured)
So even if the catalyst for all this drama is dumb as heck, I can at least recognize that it exposed the cracks in Jay and Nya's relationship when it was at its infancy, and I can accept that they grew up after that. And honestly? Teens do dumber stuff than this, so I can tolerate it. I've seen worse IRL, trust me.
@@dangerbuffrocky
This Is acctualy true...
@@dangerbuffrockyUnpopular opinion: I still don't think they should have gotten together.
Just imagine how much more powerful the message, our first obsessions and passions aren't always the best road to take in life or how it actually shows Nya is independent of any prophecies or visions or whatever, and that those visions were mere constructs by the Ninja. All are more interesting options.
Especially as Jay and Nya's relationship has received no further actual development in the dynamic or anything else past Season 6.
@@TooSweet353 tbf it's not like the reflections are going to be real anyway
@@TooSweet353nah
This arc feels more like Miraculous Ladybug than Ninjago ngl
Replace Jay with Marinette and it's literally almost the same 💀
@@AverageNinjagoFan-w5p Ladybug and Adrien are Cole, not interested.
Frrr
A reference I didn't expect but this is SOOO TRUE
legit LOL
To be honest, when I was a kid I really found this arc annoying. I was actually all for the relationship between Jay and Nya, but this arc really tested my patience. It didn't help that I unlucky missed the parts of the rebooted where there was shown that Cole wasn't at fault at all for this, which made me hate him for no reason. But eventually, after fully seeing those moments in the reruns, I understood that it was the other way around. You won't believe how happy I was at the end of The Skybound to see this arc finally end on a positive note.
I didn't even know there was a love triangle plotline because it was removed altogether from the Arabic dub which I grew up with
Lucky
Wait, how would they remove them? Did they change the script?
@@JoãoSantos-w4ithey probably made it over something else
@@NinjaColeYTReal lucky
I remember it was there, although they might have removed major scenes
As a kid I was so bummed out that they included the love triangle arc but not enough General Cryptor and Pixel/Zane screentime in Rebooted and not enough screentime for the other participants in Tournament Of Elements 💀
the elemental masters were literally the most interesting thing to kid me, especially skylar! I stopped after the sky pirate season, idk it they used them at all but I was still disappointed 🧍🏼♀️
Exactly! The tournament of elements participants were all so unique and I LOVE pixel x Zane and after pixel 'kinda' died and then revived but she BARELY gets screentime and isn't even a character anymore I'm so pissed 😭
Exactly! The tournament of elements participants were all so unique and I LOVE pixel x Zane and after pixel 'kinda' died and then revived but she BARELY gets screentime and isn't even a character anymore I'm so pissed 😭
REAL 😭😭General Cryptor was so cool
Ikr? That whole rebooted season was supposed to be a focus season, but what was supposed to be a subplot really overwhelmed the major story.
My headcannon for the love triangle is that the overlord was trying to start his plan of tearing the ninja apart with having jay and Cole turn against each other so he fucked with the love machine to say Cole was nya’s perfect partner not jay and it only really started to boil during the tournament of elements
Shit good idea
I agree I'll take that explanation
I AGREED ACTUALLY
DAMNN YEAA
W IDEA NGL
Misako is the most under utilized character in the entire series (Pixel is a close second). She is such an interesting character and there’s so much they could do with her and the show does absolutely nothing with her
I feel the same way, they don't write on her enough and just made her a character to throw in sometimes. Like Maya and Ray have more writing and more backstory than her.
Yea Misako is just used to give expesition also I think Skylor can be third on that list she should have joined the team at some point if not in season 4 then maybe in season 9 they should have developed the romance between her and Kai more and flesh out her dynamics between the other ninja then you also have the ponytail trio (Nya,Pixal,Skylor)
I never really like misako anyway so when the wild rain seasons came and misako barely showed up I sighed a breath of good riddance
@@Ikindoflikeducks understandable her introdoction was kinda weird with her just leasing lloyd at the Schokolade for Bad boys
Bro no they made her old instead of bad like she was in the movie for the redesign
I find it bad that the writers tried to involve Cole in as many plot lines as possible because he doesn't get his own season until SEASON 14
I'm still waiting for when Kai gets a whole season of his own 😭
@@CrimsonIronclad1-k6z he got one, Tournament of Elements
@@Marlin123 Tournament of elements was more about Zane and Lloyd. It was about Zane in a way cuz they only accepted the invitation to find Zane. It was also about Lloyd a little bit as what appeared to be the "final showdown" was between Lloyd and Chen. Kai never got his season like the rest of them.
@@CrimsonIronclad1-k6z if you come to think about it Zane barely got any of his own scenes in his own season, it just seemed like it because of his sacrafice.
@@Marlin123 true, but I feel like they wanted it to be Zane's season because of the build up and how they found out he was a robot but yh ur right
I'm pretty sure the writers realized just how fucking stupid they had been with nya on season 3 so they decided to ignore what happened and made her good again on season 6
The Hageman Brothers were smokin’ some shizz there from that time. And Tommy Andreason hated that subplot too! 💀
As someone who loves Jay a lot, also hated this so much just because it was really a waste of actual screen time that could’ve been on better stuff and I do love the tension between coal and Jay most of the time but they were not cooking with this. Also, I feel like Jay doesn’t really get a lot of cool stuff like new powers, he mostly has just gotten tortured, make constant jokes throughout the show, which somewhere funny but not all and make mistakes which everyone gets mad at him for then he has to make up for those mistakes, it would be cool to give him something good other than his relationship with Nya. plus in the very beginning the relationship wasn’t even that stable, almost all the other ninjas have better relationships than he does.
Half the ninja haven’t
@@kastenedwards1217 Lloyd is always getting cool stuff and it is very important to the story which make sense, Kai doesn’t get to spend a lot of time with his love interest but their relationship was always kind of healthy plus him and his sister got to meet the parents, he also sacrificed himself recently. Coal was a ghost so he had cool ghost powers and have sacrificed herself multiple times, he has cool magma hands and even has a new power, a possible love interest and got to hear how his mother was a hero. Zane has sacrificed his self a couple times as well, he’s the most unique out of the group with the whole thing an android and he has a healthy relationship with his love interest, he got to meet his creator. Nya started out as a cool samurai then became the water ninja, she was incredibly important in stopping the ghost and she literally became a part of the entire ocean. there’s also the fact both of them are teachers and same with Lloyd, Jay on the other hand has barely anything compared to them, they constantly try to make him comedy relief so he doesn’t get as much character development as the others and almost everything I can list about him is he making a mistake and then having to fix it while everyone’s mad at him. it’s pretty often He does stupid stuff and doesn’t learn from his license even though he should, I love him a lot but if it’s not making a mistake or suffering from a mistake then there’s literally nothing else to say about him. He literally has only popped up in the newest season two or three times, so quite literally everyone except Jay has gotten an incredible amount of development or something interesting.
@@kctheshadowman9651 I agree with you but Acting like jay Hasn’t got nothing special it’s crazy, literally the main couple of Ninjago beside Zane and pixel and after that the writers don’t care about no one else. Jay Defeated 2 main villains while even to this day Kai still haven’t ,cinder doesn’t count as a main villain, him and Skyler barley had a relationship and she still missing .plus for some reason they really want Kai to be stupid for some reason nya his own sister calling him stupid after Sacrificing himself in season 2 part 2 . Lloyd, cole and nya are the only one to got a power up Kai and Zane still haven’t gotten nothing and ofc jay too. Jay also made the first bounty fly, gave the water bounty power and can invent things, let not act like jay doesn’t have a lot of thing going for him while also zane who hasn’t been special since season 3 technically he actually apart of the ninja team and still nothing with him at least right now. Plus there a reason why I said half the ninja team since cole,Lloyd and nya would be the other half.
@@kctheshadowman9651 my rant might be a little mess
@@kastenedwards1217 I understand your point of you but I plainly just disagree, Kai was one of the main reasons that snake dude that could steal powers was defeated and I don’t remember and I don’t remember Jay defeating any main villains, he helped start the evil Jen, but that was because of poison he had to get as everyone was mad at him for partially causing a lot of shit to happen and your point with him inventing thing is just like me bringing up Zane being robotic. he did that in the first two seasons and then Zane or Nay would do it, plus now we literally have someone with tech powers so that’s another person to take that. I will admit Kai is called dumb a lot but that’s mostly from his own sister which is expected and the same happens to Jay, also I’m not completely sure if Kai or Zane got any new powers but they definitely have had things to explore them as characters, they were both villains at one point because of influence from weapons and they’ve came to understand their powers even better or robotics there’s been multiple times Zane being a robot has been useful even later. I love Jay and I’m not saying he doesn’t get more than most side characters, but he’s gotten way less than any of the other main cast and most of what he has is related to him making mistakes and having to fix them like I said before. He barely ever invent things throughout the entire show, because of his stupid wishing his father is a famous actor and his mother was the master of lightning by then that whole season is erased because of going back in time and none of them even remember any of that, we never hear about his parents ever again so that’s a pretty good example of something he has way less than the others. I mean he was adopted which I loved his step parents but they gave him something just like all the others then just never used it. So again I understand your point but I see it from a different point of you and I watch the show several times..
They made Jay and Cole enemies for no reason
@@DuckyDave or maybe the Overload was trying to mess with them by using that AI machine. It's the little things that count for him apparently.
And enemies to lovers in the fandom.
@@midnalazuli793
Tf are you talking about
Ninjago is such an odd series because it's been going for over a decade, has a devoted fanbase and it has all of this lore and fandom talk, theories and controversies... but basically no one talks about it outside of the devoted fans, like, you don't see people posting on Twitter about how their favorite ship is ruined or how the last season wasn't as good as the other ones like you usually see with other modern shows.
4:28 Cole is no simp bro🗿
"The Overlords most wanted Lego minifigure on his wishlist" got me
crazy💀
It’s weird how after Rebooted, Wu’s Academy doesn’t get brought up, referenced, or shown in the following seasons.
In fact, it’s hard to place Rebooted on an exact date as each of the seasons in the original show happened a year after each other, due to The Ninjago Timeline being a concrete mess.
Pretty sure it was dissolved, 3 of teachers left and 1 blew up
Not each season is after a year, Hunted is only a couple weeks maximum after SoG. MotO also can't be much longer I think S11 was also mentioned to be just several months after 10.
died 2016 - born 2024, welcome back unstable jaya relationship
It died before it was born?
@@leovince3061it ended in sky bound at the end but has come back in dragon’s rising. That’s why its died and born in that order.
@@Glowie_1that would be called "reborn"
@@Glowie_1I stopped watching at season 10. Wth happened?
@@JBoxy7 I’m still catching up so I’m not entirely sure but pretty sure some memory loss is involved. That’s what makes it unstable I think.
I hated how Nya acted towards Jay in season 6. She literally starts the whole season by getting mad at Jay for saying ‘we.’ Like what do you mean ‘we’? You’ve been in a relationship since season 1. Why do you have to be an independent girl boss who’s too good to be with a guy?
To her defense, I believe her and Jay were taking a break from their relationship, technically they weren't together and with the whole part about the Ninja fans treating her like she wasn't a part of the team, she felt left out, so I get why she was upset, and Jay being pushy didn't help her either.
fr like shut up you goofy
They were on a break by Season 6. She wasn't trying to be an independent girl boss, Jay was being too obsessive and she got tired of being defined by her relationships instead of her as a persom.
To me, personally, it's totally understandable like, everyone only saw her as "the girl" or "the ninja girl" of the group and she was called that in NGTV News and interviews of Ninjago, and was feeling pressured to answer if she was in love with Jay or not, they were in a break of their relationship, and was not being seen as one of the team, just "the girl", I'd be pissed too ngl.
@@dangerbuffrockyINDEED!
Never in my life did I think there would be a channel that would talk about Ninjago (i sort of watched it over the recent years), so Thumbs Up to you man.
Personally I absolutely adore Skybounds ending. It’s my favorite ending to any season. Skybound is arguably the darkest season of the entire show and I love it for that. With Pixel dying and Ninjago city being destroyed I feel like there’s really no way they could’ve ended the season without erasing everything since at the end of the day, Ninjago is a kids show and status quo is God. I think the writers did a fantastic job at making the erasure of everything that happens in Skybound work really well. Nadakhan constantly twists peoples words in order to get what he wants and he easily could’ve twisted Jay‘s wish but he couldn’t because he was too busy being in excruciating pain. Jays wish “I wish you had taken my hand and nobody had found that teapot in the first place” hits so damn hard for me. Everything that happened in Skybound didn’t technically happen, but it also did at the same time and nobody remembers it except for Jay and Nya. Jay and Nya we’re in the center of Skybound so it makes sense that they would be the only ones to remember everything and they get to keep all of their character development I’m fine with the erasure of everything else. Also one of the writers said that Nadakhan remembers Skybound to so if the show ever decides to do anything with the constant teases of him returning, then boy is he going to be pissed
Worst season ngl
@@kipcraft9 Nah
@Kipcraft9 for you? your like a twitter user ngl
@@Clanceetbh skybound is the definition of a bad ninjago season it is enjoyable but every character is just a dumbahh for no reason except cole and Zane, in addition to what is in this vid you got Lloyd wasting his last wish on a sword instead of teleporting them to safety kai's simply obnoxious to an insane degree and nadahan sure you could make the argument that he didn't know that the sword trap souls by just striking poeple but he strikes the teapot with it and it trapes the souls inside of it but sure I will ignore that, but you can't ignore the fact that he could make clansy wish the ninja into his sword and on the topic of wishes they don't make any sense 1st some times nadaKhan straight up doesn't do some wish like with kai's 2nd wish and Zane 's 3rd wish 2nd if you could wish it all away and the sword traps other people why like he did with clansy then y doesn't trap nadakhan and finally the season is literally a filler arc like imagin an entire 10 episodes and we only get 1)the consept of gins 2)a new realm and 3)the fact that that realm is in ruins and everyone in there is dead
In conclusion skybound is bad
Bruh this happens every time somebody just mentions Skybound. People argue so much about whether it’s good or not. It’s hysterical. Skybound is fantastic imo, it definitely has problems but what it does right it does so well that I don’t even care
Bro that triangle was the stupidest thing
Sky bound is my favorite season so I’m happy you covered it!
The fact that the only reason we got great episodes like Versus and the Last Resort was because Nya let a computer tell her who she should be into is the dumbest thing this show has ever done, and also Blackout is my least favorite episode of the whole show.
I love that I haven't touched NInjago in a decade and yet knew exactly what You were going to talk about based on the title alone.
The one Jaya thing that annoys me: Nya never says she loves Jay! Jay says it MULTIPLE times and Nya only says it ONCE to the door of the building Jay was in and even then she didn't say it, she just mouthed it!
(Spoilers for Ninjago Dragons Rising Season 2 Part 2 🡓)
But she did FINALLY say I love you to his face in NGR Season 2 Part 2.....EXCEPT HES EVIL SO HE REPLIED WITH "And I will always hate you"! It B R O K E my heart!!!
nya hurt that boy for years. im not surprised he said that
She says it multiple times in season 2 part 2 of dragons rising. Sorry it's spoilers but I had to put this.
There are many ways to express love other than saying it and remember she didn't grow up expressing love with words Jay had ed and Edna nya only had Kai and Kai is Kai there parents were kidnapped
NinjaCole singlehandedly reviving the Ninjago community.
I think the match making choosing cole over jay was the overlord's plot to tear the ninja apart
The love triangle was shit. But Skybound was the best season. It gave Jay development. He started off unlikeable but became more. The season is great. It fixed the love the triangle. Jay was supposed to come off that way. It was to show his growth through the season. I also don’t like how it ended but the season overall was amazing.
9:40 NAH I LOVE THIS SOUND EFFECT
Finally, someone brought this up again. I hated the love triangle plot with passion, even as a kid it was obvious to me that Cole had no romantic interest in Nya, the whole thing felt like the writers regretted making Jaya a thing so early on in the series, so my guesses are one, they weren't expecting the show to run for years and two, Jaya didn't have your regular lengthy love story progress, or atleast no onscreen romantic progress/development between them. So I guess the love triangle plot was kind of a restart/reboot/new beginning to their love story??
All in all, Jaya were a mess until later seasons , I guess writing love stories/couples weren't the previous writers' strongest point.
Moral of the story leave ai out of your love life
When I was younger watching season three for the first time I was thinking “ when can we get back to the plot” whenever the love triangle showed up
Cole didn’t even have feelings. He just felt he was better than Jay
The Chad Cole not ever really liking Nya, made this ironically funny for me. It just ruins the characters to a full circle as it doesn’t really go anywhere.
Ngl if you think about it, the love triangle kinda snowballed into a net positive for the show. The jay and cole fight in the tournament is considered one of the best fights and episode by a lot of people, and skybound would've never happened without the s3 triangle and skybound is one of the best seasons in the show.
Completely agree, but I feel like they could have builded up to it with a different plot point that the majority of the Fandom didn't hate.
This arc actually made me hate Nya so much, season 5 and 9 made her a better character and now thanks to Dragons Rising started to make her one of my favorites.
Btw justice for Cole!!!
Actually, I hated her in S5! It was more evidence of how stuck up she was! She was all whiny the whole season…!
I have a soft spot for Rebooted despite it being an imperfect season (mostly because of Zane and Pixal), but this was an arc I always had a gripe with. I will say that it made for the eventual great Jay and Cole moments in later seasons, but to ease my conscience, I've decided to hop on to the theory that The Overlord planted the whole thing to cause discourse amongst the ninja.
Definitely a Jaya fan, but I like it best post-Skybound because it...messy at the start to say the least. Just subscribed by the way!
I 100% support your Jay, Nya, and Cole video as well as all your opinions because I agree with everything you said and I also support your reasoning for jay and nyas half toxic relationship because I myself personally can not stand season 3 however the only 3 things I love about Rebooted and here they are 1, I love every scene with Garmadon. 2, I also love the whole Zane Julien and Pixal love triangle because at least those 2 robots actually have zero arguments nor anything bad about themselves as a whole. And 3, I love the scene where General Cryptor and Pythor P Chumsworth talk about the overlord really Pythor is absolutely hilarious.
I don’t know if a writer on Ninjago said this or if a UA-camr suggested it but I heard from someone a while ago who made this suggestion that would’ve at least made this arc make sense- the Perfect Match machine was going to say Jay, but the Overlord hacked it and made it say Cole in order to drive a wedge between the ninja.
This would make so much sense and help make the Overlord a more diabolical villain twisting and manipulating the ninja’s emotions and relationships to his advantage.
What would also help is if Nya pointed out some of Cole’s best traits like his selflessness, his leadership skills and his ability to make friends. This way it would at least make sense as to why she thinks the machine might have picked him as her perfect match.
With all this, it doesn’t make the love triangle more bearable but it at least helps it makes sense.
Also I’m pretty sure the reason why Jay is only mad at Cole and not Nya in the Invitation is because he’s the world’s biggest simp towards her. And this season just proves it even more. He finds out that his friend is the perfect match for the girl of his dreams and instead of backing down or questioning anything, he just attacks Cole even though Cole doesn’t know what’s going on, which also shows Jay’s selfishness and immaturity. Basically to him, if he can’t have Nya, no one can.
Me when I need a computer to make decisions about my relationship:
My take on the Jay, Cole, Nya, love triangle was that the writers I think were hinting or at least trying to hint at Nya finding Cole more attractive than Jay because of how more mature Cole is compared to Jay. Throughout most of the series, Cole had displayed a much more manly strongman persona with an air of confidence in himself, whereas Jay while confident in his abilities, lacked some semblance of awareness regarding certain social cues and was known for being a tad childish with his video game addiction and his obsession with those sci-fi movies involving that one man who later turned out to be his biological father. And there's also the issue regarding Nya's personality as well. Despite describing herself as a strong independent woman, like many women do IRL, Nya rather paradoxically (also like many IRL women, let's be honest) either consciously or subconsciously seems to gravitate more towards Cole, a man who seems to more closely resemble an old school macho man. Indicating that she like many women her age (presuming she's in her mid 20s at the time) she, despite publicly expressing that she's more modern with her approach to dating and romance, secretly or subconsciously she actually seems to want a more traditionally ideal partner, a variable strong man who's much more readily able to defend, stand up for, and provide for her. But as the love triangle concludes (or in other words the writers finally gave up) with the end of the Jeeb arc, she eventually chooses Jay over Cole both because Cole doesn't really show any real interest in her and because she and Jay have had much more of an emotional history with each other and thus a stronger connection.
And plus, realistically (as far as sci-fi / sci-fan stories go anyways), what woman wouldn't fall head over heels in love for you knowing that you altered TIME ITSELF to save you from dying from a poisonous accident? Unless there's some heinous plot armor or plot contriving involved, there's no reason Nya wouldn't choose Jay.
Honestly its just because they cant seem to figure out how they want jay to be written at times hes the comic relief and then he is just ignored cause they dont know what to do with him if they could figure out his character i could actually find jay a good character but now even in dragons rising they added him back annndd... he did nothing... welp sorry jay welcome back to being forgotten
@@St3lthy maybe it should've been him to be in the Land Of Lost Things where Cole was at the time.
Wym they added him back he on his evil arc did you really watch dr
@@kastenedwards1217 i did but i cant lie it was pretty pathetic how they added him back lol just threw him in cause crap cant wait too long all im saying is the could have not had him in season 2 p2 and nothing would change
@@estebangutierrez160 maybe but that wouldnt make sense as he has nya and wouldnt stick around he would look for her if he remembered anything
As a former/returning fan from Ninjago, while I love the show, I would kill to see an anime adaptation of it. Could you imagine, they have everything planned out and ready since the original show happened and could remake the pilots and the first two seasons as three seasons of a high budget anime for ages 12+ . If that did well they could then move on to Rebooted stuff and onwards and improve the JayxNyaxCole thing by really diving into, I don't know, relationship troubles between Jay and Nya so when Jay learns about Cole being a perfect match we get to explore his struggle between feeling inadequate for Nya and his friendship with Cole. I'm just spitballing ideas here though
That's actually such a fun video to watch, I didnt know the arc went for this long but wow 😭
This is definitely the type of video that positively sells you on a channel. Instant sub!
To anyone that thinks Nadhakan is a better villain than Moro, respectfully, you are not the brightest person. Nadhakan was just an annoying character. Every time he appeared he always tries to sound so big brain which I'll give him that, he was able to outsmart a nindroid, but it was by twisting his words and finding loopholes which Zane clearly said not to do. Moro's character showed that he was just a kid and couldn't fully understand the consequences of his actions until the very end. Nadhakan could've just gotten his crew back and chilled with them but nope, he wanted to take them to Djinjago since pirates had been "forgotten". When he saw his home realm falling apart (due to the ninja destroying the preeminant/cursed realm) he blamed the ninja and wanted revenge on them while before he had no idea of ANYTHING happening cuz he was trapped in a teapot. Also, if the ninja hadn't destroyed the cursed realm then Djinjago would've been cursed by the preeminant - which mind you would've been a much worse fate - and they didn't even know that they would end up destroying 2 realms in one. Not even Wu knew and from what we're shown, Lloyd and Moro didn't even end up in Djinjago so no one knew that realm existed let alone know that the cursed realm was the sister realm of Djinjago. Sure you could also say Moro was being a brat by wanting to become the green ninja but don't forget, Kai also wanted to be the green ninja but he was lucky enough to have 3 other ninja AND sensei Wu to guide him to not become evil. Nadhakan was also just a greedy djinn who wanted infinite wishes for himself so he could destroy everything which is why he wanted to marry Delara and ended up marrying Nya when he found out Delara was dead, he just wanted ultimate power (shocker). At least in the end Moro realised his mistake and sacrificed himself and gave the realm crystal to Wu but Nadhakan was just pure evil, Moro was broken. You can't convince me that Skybound was better than Possession, also, for most of Possession it was just straight hands without any nonsense drama or love triangle but Skybound had to dwell on the love drama between Nya and Jay which no one wanted but thank goodness they just used Skybound to fix their mistakes and sort out the drama. Imo Skybound was just a season to fix any mistakes they made and to sort out their insufferable love drama.
Ofc Morro is a better villain without question
I love the way you make your videos. They’re really entertaining! I think you actually sound a lot like Cole lmao. This scene tho… 💀💀4:29
13:16 caught me off guard
this was the first sign of the jay fans vs cole fan war
You make so good videos!!
Jole Really is the goat fr. 🐐🤖
At least Kai wasn't in the perfect match
For INFINITE OBVIOUS reasons…
Why can't we teach kids about insest 😉😉😉
💀😭🤣
@@SuperbGorillayes we must teach it
Rebooted may have given us the second worst love triangle ever, but we got THE BEST ROBOT COUPLE IN THE UNIVERSE
FRRR
Then what’s the first?
@@Devin-y8g I forgor 💀
What’s so funny about rebooted is that near the end, they realise that they’ve done absolutely nothing with Kai and just decide to give him AN ENTIRE 20 EPISODE all to himself to help even it out. Like seriously, this was so random, I don’t think there’s ever been an episode focusing that much on one character ever since (not including only 10 minute episodes)
Which episode is that? I don't remember it at all
@@bluelemon243 It’s the episode before they go to space. Kai’s just in a car the entire time trying to see what the overlord is planing while chasing his cars, with pixel also being in commentary with him. The rest of the ninja don’t come right until the very end.
4:23 he was so real for that😂😂😂
Only commenting to out this goat into the algorithm
8:53 he lost his friend and love on a same day
Imo pixal x zane better
Zane in general is just so underrated bro he is literally one of the best characters in the show
I always thought they were better nya is just annoying
9:39 "SHUT UP" got me dying 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
9:39 the only good Lloyd moment in the show
Jay, SHUT UP
Honestly feel like they became a decent couple after skybound but SoG to present (excluding DR due to spoilerish reasons) does a great job at depicting them as a couple compared to early Jaya, one of my favorite fictional couples tbh.
It felt so pointless, COLE DIDN’T EVEN LIKE NYA HE JUST WANTED TO HATE JAY THIS WAS SO POINTLESS AND SHOULD’VE ENDED IN THE LATER PARTS OF S3 IT IS SO ANNOYING AND SO POINTLESS
Better than them resurrecting Harumi for no reason and then butchering her
the thing i love about the tournament of elements right after that we got possesion so basicly 2 good seasons in a row
The love triangle was the worst subplot in the series
10:51 That could've just been his pride talking or he's avoiding the awkwardness. He probably felt like he has to lie in the bed he made for himself and it be too awkward to try and see him. Think about it if you had a major falling out with your best friend time has passed and you miss them a lot but you never settled your issues its hard to just reach out especially if you're too stubborn to apologize.
Best series EVER literally my whole childhood
In my headcanon, the Overlord made the computer think Nya likes Cole more and caused the controversy.
Not very surprising, but it fits.
15:34 yeah but taking the venom is what led him get captured. Nice teamwork, you guys!
Nah Cole’s a menace 😭 4:23
lets goo he uploaded
MAN I HATE THE NYA WRITTING SO MUCH 😭😭😭😭😭😭 the creators trying so hard to say look we know how to make a good female character look she is A GIRL and she strong and dont wanna be in boys club and the same thing repeat all the time omg they thought they ate with this her whole character is about her being a girl no this is not how to write good female character just make it like the male character its not that hard 😭😭😭😭😭
Yeah she is a terrible character my
God everything about her was as
Subtle as a brick to a moving van.
Agreed!! She was a great character before. Then S3 ruined her!!! It wasn’t until the Oni Trilogy when she finally was redeemed
@@ashterrifictales7317
I still think her character is just
Unwatchable I honestly never
Liked her, like I did Skylar
Pixal & harumi.
@@elongatedmanforever1252 100% Not saying she’s the best. I still prefer other female characters in the show… I’m just saying she’s not as insufferable to watch as she was S3-S7! I like her more in some seasons than others, but she’ll never be one of my favorite characters lol
I didnt realise as kids that Cole vs Jay was about Nyah in tournaments of elements. And i also feel like the love story in Skybound was doable past episode 2. But then again i might be biased by my nostalgia
great video! i don't see enough ninjago on youtube :) can't wait for more!
13:41 yea lil Nelson love i think Nelson should become Jay's student (when he turns good) with the power of plasma
17:57 are you a madman who ships lloyd and Nya
Me who ship them for a year when I was 8-9 😐🤮 I don't know why I shipped this is was probably because of the movie and season 8-9
i liked watching this, i enjoyed the actual lego as a kid but never watched past season 1 so it was cool to catch up a bit. also nice touch with all the frontiers music :)
As a Ninjago fan since pilots who has watched every season and episode withotu fail, including Dragons Rising, the love triangle and skybound is so infuriating I almost quit the show istg
As a veteran fan since day one, I agree with you.
Jay has always been my fav character, i always empathize with the funny character of the team, and i think he is the worst treated character by the franchise.
Skybound was my fav season since it really developed jay’s character and he actually stood on his ground, being alone, watching all of his friends get taken down, him taking a beating almost every day, and at the end him making the right choices.
I think the whole computer thing was actually just the last push for Nya, not the sole reason she created all that drama. They were already going through a rough patch, so I’m assuming she wanted an excuse to get Jay off her back. And then in seasons 4-6 she remembers what made her like Jay so much in the first place
The three words that best describe this arc are as follows and I quote "Stink, Stank, Stunk!"
I have never in my life have ever liked a love triangle. Can we stop this tend? Please…
Writes:
NO
I'm pretty sure Cole didn't know why Jay was mad at him for the entirety of season 3
rock pounding- jay SHUT UP
You woke up in a cold sweat, huh? Dont you mean..... Cole sweat?
There is no way Nya matched with Cole on literal ai tinder, and there was a whole ass ask about it.
7:13 what was jay about to say 😭🙏
OG ninjago would’ve been so much better without the love triangle back in season 3
I love Jaya in skybound, honestly. The thing I wanna forget is the love triangle 😩☠️
Nice vid!
After season 3 I hated Cole for life BC OF THAT LOVE MACHINE THING
This was literally the moment I stop actively watching this show. Its good to know the quality lived up to my memory of it
Everytime Borg is on screen I realize you sound a bit like him XD
I Laughed So Hard at this it made my Day Thanks!
15:10 slight correction the book was written by his biological father