*The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded. (Quran 5:75, The Banquet)* Think about the wisdom behind Allah’s (swt) statement: *1)* In order to eat food, you first need to grow that food. Raw food has to be extracted from the trees, grain & plants, the vegetation of the ground, with the help of the rain in the sky, and through all of the various complex biological processes that are happening on earth. *God alone is the one controlling all of this- He alone sends the rain from the sky, allows the vegetation to sprout from the ground, etc- thus Jesus (peace be upon him) was utterly dependent on God to eat his food.* And if Jesus (pbuh) was supposedly God, then *HE* would be the one who allowed the food of the earth to be grown and extracted- *which makes it nonsensical for him to need to eat it. If he had the power to grow it in the first place, he does not need to eat.* I mean think about it: *Are Trinitarians telling us that Jesus’ divine nature was feeding his human nature?* This is the only conclusion we can come to, and it is completely absurd. *2)* Of all the things that we as human beings do which demonstrate our humanity and lack of divinity, it is eating food. Eating food shows that you have lack of power, and need to constantly replenish it or else you will quite simply die. On top of that, eating food means that you are dependent on the rain, the ground, the animals and cattle, the vegetation, the farmers who cultivate it, and even the people who sell you the food at the marketplace. *Are we to believe that it is befitting of God’s Majesty to be so utterly dependent on His creation, both the living & non-living, which He Himself CREATED & SUSTAINS?* It is nothing but pure delusion. *3)* Finally, the consumption of food has a final step- which is the reality that food does not stay in your body forever after you eat it- *eating food requires you to remove and extract the waste that comes from it, which is done by urinating and defecating....* And to attribute such a *filthy, disgusting, repulsive, animalistic, lowly and unbefitting act to the Almighty Lord of the worlds, is a complete blasphemy.* Yet this is what the Trinitarian Christians wish for us to believe about God. But we will never believe it. May Allah (swt) guide them!
Abdul S. Assalamualaikum, thanks for the explanation i appreciate it..i notice this comment had been here for a year now..normally if you said something that is contrary to the trinitarian beliefs system, many christians will come here and reply and will try to dispute it (like the comment that you wrote here) but now if we can see, no ones dare to challenge this statement that you made..i mean, where are these people, does any christian dare to dispute the argument? we’ll see
Christians have told us that Jesus was sent to earth to repair Adam's fault, but why in the entire Bible we have never seen Jesus speak of Adam or utter his name, it is weird no ! ??? ??
Weird ! Voltaire once said that he had a large library full of books and every time he reads the Bible he had the feeling of going for a walk in a mental hospital !
When I was still a child in a Christian school, our teachers never stopped telling us that David was a devotee, a true believer and a good man. And when I grew up, I discovered by reading the Bible that David was also a traitor, a deceiver, a fornicator and a man who loves to kill! "And David arose, and departed with his men, and slew two hundred men of the Philistines. He brought their foreskins, and delivered to the king the complete number, in order to become king's son-in-law. 1 Samuel 27, the Bible. The teachers lied to us! They hid from us all the awful things that are in the Bible! They distort the meaning of the biblical words to save their book full of contradictions, lies and historical and scientific errors! The Muslim David is completely innocent of the lies in the Bible.
Miss m Ibs Yup, and it doesn’t stop there. The Bible also says that David (peace be upon him) allegedly saw a woman bathing and he fell in love with her so he deceived her husband and had him KILLED during war, then he married his wife and SLEPT with her afterwards. Lust, murder, and rape. And this is what they expect us to believe that the Prophets did. And they falsified about David’s son also, Solomon (peace be upon him). The Bible tells us that Solomon (pbuh) was allegedly seduced by his wives to worship idols, and he was led astray by them and began to worship their false gods and “did evil in the sight of the Lord” (as it says in the book of Kings). But Allah (swt) denies that in the Quran and informs us that it was the devils (shayateen) who disbelieved, and not Solomon (pbuh). And Allah (swt) honors all of the prophets and messengers, and frees them from the lies and fabrications thrown against them. God is not deficient in any way, and in His perfect Judgement & Wisdom, He has certainly chosen the best human beings to be the prophets & messengers, who are role models for true worshippers and leaders for mankind. Yes they are all just human and make mistakes and have limitations, but we will never accept that they committed the major & horrendous sins that are attributed to them by some. Islam upholds the morals & virtues and innocence of the prophets, by the will of Allah (swt).
Al of these are stories to compare and elevate Jesus, the only one that is sinless thus worthy of worship as god in the flesh. Mashallah. How could god sent prophets with bad traits and morals?!! Who would ever listen to anyone of such standings and horrendous acts. In the bible, god even wrestled a man on earth and god lost. Nauzubillah. How can one even take this book seriously. A book mired with contradictions and errors.
Those who invented the trinity have caused the Christians much pain. Christians suffer enormously when they try to understand it and when they try to explain it to others! Poor credulous followers!
since when men of the church began to rape children and practice fornication between them in holy churches ... "33 years, 87 years, 164 years, 411 years, 1029 years or 1399 years !?
One of the three persons who form the trinity ( JESUS) has been fortified by a tiny creature: an angel !!!!!! !!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bible, Luke 22 : “43Then an angel from heaven appeared to Him and strengthened Him.”
Pope Francis l told that homosexuals and fornicators can also enter the kingdom of God and not hell. And the next day he met a gay American couple (Yayo Grassi and Iwan) and congratulated them and after, he congratulated another Brazilian gay couple (Toni Reis and David Harrad) by the Catholic baptism of their three children! (Abolition of the law)!
If a Christian ever tells you that Jesus (pbuh) is God and had 2 natures, then ask them who he worshiped as a man. They will say he worshiped the Father, in which case Jesus (pbuh), according to THEM, was not a perfect human- because if he was, he would worship the Trinity of Father, Son (i.e himself), and Holy Spirit. A perfect human nature means a perfect worshipper, and Jesus (pbuh) was simply a Unitarian (He worshiped The Father), which means he did not worship God correctly and is in fact a heretic (according to their standards)! The Trinitarians never think about this. Jesus (pbuh) worshiped the Father alone- never himself (the ‘divine son’ or the Holy Spirit). And this even means that the Trinitarian is a BETTER worshiper of God than Jesus (pbuh) was- according to their standards, not ours. Look how inconsistent their beliefs are.
I know Mansoor is a very good debater but sorry for sound controller they should learn how to make sure the voice of Mansoor and person who is talking to him be clear and effort to avoid noise as possible !
Hmmm, if you are the creator of a robot and give all the capabilities to this robot will do.... And you updated this robot software at the time this robot needed, Is this robot knows how to do something without you did the program?
Last minute the other Ethiopian guy diverted the other guy who was understanding what he was saying was not make any sense plus he always attack’s mohamed pbuh
AhmedN Agm ما اقصده هو أن منصور يعلم تماما مستوى من يتناقش معه، أحيانا يقضي وقته بدحظ ادعاءاتهم. كما أنك لا تتصور مدا انحطاط الاساليب التي يستعملها هؤلاء المبشرين و أشباه المبشرين و من يدافع عنهم لتنصير الناس أو ابعادهم عن دينهم...في آسيا كان اليسوعيون يرتدون و يدعون أنهم بوذيين لينصروا الناس خداعا...و اسوء من هذا يمكنك أن تراه هنا في بريطانيا
*The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded. (Quran 5:75, The Banquet)*
Think about the wisdom behind Allah’s (swt) statement:
*1)* In order to eat food, you first need to grow that food. Raw food has to be extracted from the trees, grain & plants, the vegetation of the ground, with the help of the rain in the sky, and through all of the various complex biological processes that are happening on earth. *God alone is the one controlling all of this- He alone sends the rain from the sky, allows the vegetation to sprout from the ground, etc- thus Jesus (peace be upon him) was utterly dependent on God to eat his food.*
And if Jesus (pbuh) was supposedly God, then *HE* would be the one who allowed the food of the earth to be grown and extracted- *which makes it nonsensical for him to need to eat it. If he had the power to grow it in the first place, he does not need to eat.* I mean think about it: *Are Trinitarians telling us that Jesus’ divine nature was feeding his human nature?* This is the only conclusion we can come to, and it is completely absurd.
*2)* Of all the things that we as human beings do which demonstrate our humanity and lack of divinity, it is eating food. Eating food shows that you have lack of power, and need to constantly replenish it or else you will quite simply die. On top of that, eating food means that you are dependent on the rain, the ground, the animals and cattle, the vegetation, the farmers who cultivate it, and even the people who sell you the food at the marketplace. *Are we to believe that it is befitting of God’s Majesty to be so utterly dependent on His creation, both the living & non-living, which He Himself CREATED & SUSTAINS?* It is nothing but pure delusion.
*3)* Finally, the consumption of food has a final step- which is the reality that food does not stay in your body forever after you eat it- *eating food requires you to remove and extract the waste that comes from it, which is done by urinating and defecating....* And to attribute such a *filthy, disgusting, repulsive, animalistic, lowly and unbefitting act to the Almighty Lord of the worlds, is a complete blasphemy.* Yet this is what the Trinitarian Christians wish for us to believe about God. But we will never believe it.
May Allah (swt) guide them!
Abdul S. Assalamualaikum, thanks for the explanation i appreciate it..i notice this comment had been here for a year now..normally if you said something that is contrary to the trinitarian beliefs system, many christians will come here and reply and will try to dispute it (like the comment that you wrote here) but now if we can see, no ones dare to challenge this statement that you made..i mean, where are these people, does any christian dare to dispute the argument? we’ll see
Christians have told us that Jesus was sent to earth to repair Adam's fault, but why in the entire Bible we have never seen Jesus speak of Adam or utter his name, it is weird no ! ??? ??
Anwar Diba brother can you see my comment can you reply back ?
Weird !
Voltaire once said that he had a large library full of books and every time he reads the Bible he had the feeling of going for a walk in a mental hospital !
When I was still a child in a Christian school, our teachers never stopped telling us that David was a devotee, a true believer and a good man.
And when I grew up, I discovered by reading the Bible that David was also a traitor, a deceiver, a fornicator and a man who loves to kill!
"And David arose, and departed with his men, and slew two hundred men of the Philistines. He brought their foreskins, and delivered to the king the complete number, in order to become king's son-in-law. 1 Samuel 27, the Bible.
The teachers lied to us!
They hid from us all the awful things that are in the Bible!
They distort the meaning of the biblical words to save their book full of contradictions, lies and historical and scientific errors!
The Muslim David is completely innocent of the lies in the Bible.
Anwar Diba what 😮 is that what they wrote about the prophets of god 😮
Do you want to talk about Jews !!! If so, they have awful things.
Miss m Ibs Yup, and it doesn’t stop there. The Bible also says that David (peace be upon him) allegedly saw a woman bathing and he fell in love with her so he deceived her husband and had him KILLED during war, then he married his wife and SLEPT with her afterwards. Lust, murder, and rape. And this is what they expect us to believe that the Prophets did.
And they falsified about David’s son also, Solomon (peace be upon him). The Bible tells us that Solomon (pbuh) was allegedly seduced by his wives to worship idols, and he was led astray by them and began to worship their false gods and “did evil in the sight of the Lord” (as it says in the book of Kings). But Allah (swt) denies that in the Quran and informs us that it was the devils (shayateen) who disbelieved, and not Solomon (pbuh). And Allah (swt) honors all of the prophets and messengers, and frees them from the lies and fabrications thrown against them.
God is not deficient in any way, and in His perfect Judgement & Wisdom, He has certainly chosen the best human beings to be the prophets & messengers, who are role models for true worshippers and leaders for mankind. Yes they are all just human and make mistakes and have limitations, but we will never accept that they committed the major & horrendous sins that are attributed to them by some. Islam upholds the morals & virtues and innocence of the prophets, by the will of Allah (swt).
Al of these are stories to compare and elevate Jesus, the only one that is sinless thus worthy of worship as god in the flesh.
Mashallah. How could god sent prophets with bad traits and morals?!! Who would ever listen to anyone of such standings and horrendous acts.
In the bible, god even wrestled a man on earth and god lost.
Nauzubillah. How can one even take this book seriously. A book mired with contradictions and errors.
Those who invented the trinity have caused the Christians much pain. Christians suffer enormously when they try to understand it and when they try to explain it to others! Poor credulous followers!
what about the priest who cannot married?
end up orphan kid got raped. it baffled me they never got punish.
since when men of the church began to rape children and practice fornication between them in holy churches ... "33 years, 87 years, 164 years, 411 years, 1029 years or 1399 years !?
Anwar Diba Not all Christians are for the Trinity, some are against it, but are attacked by Trinity believers.
اللهم بارك في اخوتنا و سدد خطاهم يا رب
May Allah bless u my brothers and guide u to his path
One of the three persons who form the trinity ( JESUS) has been fortified by a tiny creature: an angel !!!!!! !!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bible, Luke 22 : “43Then an angel from heaven appeared to Him and strengthened Him.”
"VOLTRON" (famous cartoons) had been composed of five persons : 5 in 1.
And the "TRINITY" had been composed of three persons : 3 in 1.
And now we got ""pacific rim "" 2 in 1
When the guy is talking about flesh he is just opening and closing his jacket...lol
Allah lord of the worlds,give brother mansur long life! And more knowledge. AMEEN!!
finally, good conversation with good manner christian
that white dude was not mannered at all, snaking his way through every question. that is far form mannered.
Watch part one ... He is not so mannered at all (White Christian)... Unless brother Monsur Start questioning him.
Love the way brother Mansur corners them. BarakAllahu feek brother Mansur.
Pope Francis l told that homosexuals and fornicators can also enter the kingdom of God and not hell. And the next day he met a gay American couple (Yayo Grassi and Iwan) and congratulated them and after, he congratulated another Brazilian gay couple (Toni Reis and David Harrad) by the Catholic baptism of their three children! (Abolition of the law)!
The trinity is a vortex of confusion
Brother Mansur May Allah grant you best of this dunya and hereafter. SubhanAllah.
If a Christian ever tells you that Jesus (pbuh) is God and had 2 natures, then ask them who he worshiped as a man. They will say he worshiped the Father, in which case Jesus (pbuh), according to THEM, was not a perfect human- because if he was, he would worship the Trinity of Father, Son (i.e himself), and Holy Spirit. A perfect human nature means a perfect worshipper, and Jesus (pbuh) was simply a Unitarian (He worshiped The Father), which means he did not worship God correctly and is in fact a heretic (according to their standards)! The Trinitarians never think about this. Jesus (pbuh) worshiped the Father alone- never himself (the ‘divine son’ or the Holy Spirit).
And this even means that the Trinitarian is a BETTER worshiper of God than Jesus (pbuh) was- according to their standards, not ours. Look how inconsistent their beliefs are.
To brother mansur, these confused paulines are like babies.
I know Mansoor is a very good debater but sorry for sound controller they should learn how to make sure the voice of Mansoor and person who is talking to him be clear and effort to avoid noise as possible !
The holy spirit never took on flesh, yet it doesn't know the hour. If flesh is the excuse for Jesus, what excuse is there for the holy spirit? None!
Christians make it sound like Jesus was suffering from multiple personality disorder
Hmmm, if you are the creator of a robot and give all the capabilities to this robot will do.... And you updated this robot software at the time this robot needed, Is this robot knows how to do something without you did the program?
But if you wear the metal of the robot like Iroman you dont need an update and you could fly!! you can be a man and you can become a robot!!
Is brother Mansoor on holidays?
bro.Mansur is studying. Insha Allah will be back soon at SC.
Mohammed Khan InshaAllah bro ✌️
Last minute the other Ethiopian guy diverted the other guy who was understanding what he was saying was not make any sense plus he always attack’s mohamed pbuh
Mansur should be paid for this lesson on passive/active voice which he is giving to this Christian... Hhhh it can't be for free... Hhh
Simple English and yet lots of confusions with the xtians
You're
These christians do not know what they are talking about
they can't understand their faith so they do not know what they are talking about and they know it!!
بصراحة فديو ممل وعديم الفائدة ..ثم لماذا الالحاح على بعض الناس واعادة نفس الاسئلة هذا ممل جدا ...
AhmedN Agm عندما تتحدث إلى أطفال فعليك أن تسألهم حسب عمرهم
Nantz Stein يا اخي صحيح كلامك لكن نحن ايضا نريد ان نستفاد من فحوى المناقشة ....
AhmedN Agm ما اقصده
هو أن منصور يعلم تماما مستوى من يتناقش معه، أحيانا يقضي وقته بدحظ ادعاءاتهم. كما أنك لا تتصور مدا انحطاط الاساليب التي يستعملها هؤلاء المبشرين و أشباه المبشرين و من يدافع عنهم لتنصير الناس أو ابعادهم عن دينهم...في آسيا كان اليسوعيون يرتدون و يدعون أنهم بوذيين لينصروا الناس خداعا...و اسوء من هذا يمكنك أن تراه هنا في بريطانيا
This man are very hard headed