Hmm, I wonder if Land is talking about a sort of “singularity” where humans merge with techno-capital. That’s one possible path. But what I think is more likely is that a technological barrier will be hit and due too the dysgenic collapse from what Edward Dutton called “spiteful mutations” and the human capital and resources won’t be there to make the acceleration possible. Which causes civilization to devolve and people to regress back to probably the mid 1500s in terms of technology.
The elite NeoLiberal Tech Capitalists don't believe in God or any kind of traditional spiritual concept so they put faith in the Singularity instead. If they can't bring themselves to faith in God then they will create a God of sorts here on earth. Ray Kurzwiel and Yuval Noah Harari are examples of people who assume that this faith will be realized and I'm sure people like Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk believe in it as well. The faith that Anti- traditionalists and the like often used to entertain was communism. With the failure of that system they have turned to Capitalism in hopes that it will provide them with something greater (Artificial Intelligence) to strive towards. It's the same meaningless disaster in the end though.
great video. it’s impossible to try to bring up mr. land without sounding schizophrenic, and you did a fantastic job sticking with clear and linear thoughts. i’m glad people are discussing this stuff!
This reminds me of something I wrote a few months ago: "I prefer UA-cam to Twitch, because in UA-cam I can interect with the liver/streamer/VTuber a few times a week, in Twitch everything goes so fast* that it feels a lot more like we're interacting just with the algorithm". *: fast and without a meaningful heading, most of the time
Agreed. As someone who champions long, contextual conversations, I naturally began seeing the signs when memes (a term coined in the early 20th C by M. McLuhan to describe a stage during the cannibalization process of language) materialized. It begins with common, agreed upon abbreviations and anagrams of popular words, often alongside humor (which is really the giddy self-deception that something new has been expressed ie: lol, omg, ikr, wtf), then memes, then hieroglyphics, etc. The complexity irreversibly begins to culturally self-destruct. Since language is the installed software that will determine the variety of ways we can interpret and express reality, the species begins to feel more and more suffocated after a critical mass has been reached in which all words in all cultural combinations have been expressed. This gets technical, as it especially accelerates when a culture is so complex with novelty, that it assigns categories and geneses so that natural or synthetic phenomena which haven't even been discovered yet are already named. Therefore, waiting for it to be discovered is not required to count it among the expressed, and this is one of McLuhan's big flags that language is nearing its expressive capacity for any new additions. Of course, this requires some kind of Jungian "collective" to be a reality, in some form, as this process is theorized to be an unconscious, collective experience that's played out many times over many human epochs. Art begins to repeat itself using different names, places, and faces in an attempt to relieve the anxiety that occurs when our creative access to unique ides limit has been reached. Language builds empires, and it ends them if it cannot be abandoned for something else with no basis in language, at all. The "singularity" folks think this is VR (and even McKenna pondered on it), but fail to realize that any reality within VR are environments based on language first, then coded. Programming code isn't language, it's only a technical translation of what's already been conceived with language as the conceptual model. The ability to instantly manifest anything, if the suspension of disbelief is convincing enough, will probably appear to relieve the restless pacing we each feel, but it's essentially the same giggling over anagrams, memes and global Ebonics...it' funny or positive because we've agreed upon the validity of a rearranging of language...we get a very weak taste of how it felt to truly create something new, but like VR, it's all based on already expressed concepts. Doesn't count beyond the acceptance of delusion, and certainly doesn't count on a collective level. I once listened to a Terence McKenna lecture, and he called this new expressive emergence/object the "Transcendental Object at the End of Human History" - which is a great title, but he, himself, didn't know really what it would be. Mini examples of this abandonment of language can be seen in large doses of hallucinogens and dedicated, very deep meditation. (And most reported near-death experiences). This lack of access to language for the frontal cortex is when most people report life-changing and instantaneous clarifications of potential, or unfolding of another layer of reality never before conceived of. Whatever this "object" is, it seems to have more in common with esotericism than anything like digital technology or behavioral psychology (again, both conceptualized with preexisting language). As I began to watch AI become capable of fashioning fakes so real that the 5 senses could no longer be trusted to provide a reliable landscape of reality, I began to really think about what that means to the individual, and especially, on a societal level. It could definitely become very dark, because if all things are potentially true either by virtue or deception, then devouring anything that moves could become a common psychosis. It's common sense, in this uncommon sense example, that encountering a true unknown is far more dangerous than knowing it's destroyed. I think a 6th sense could emerge, so that truth can be known without the Babble communication issues. I suspect if this did happen, it would spring forth fairly quickly out of pure survival desperation. Of course, those who couldn't or wouldn't emerge in this mechanism, would likely weed themselves from the overall genetic pool in time. It's magical thinking, maybe, but not quite as magical as entertaining the idea that all technology is a crutch for repressed human capability. I've had enough personal experiences to at least consider that the human ability to project sentience capable of accessing and storing memory far more accurate and thorough than the brains seem capable, is definitely possible to some degree. Similar to the "6th" sense idea, this would be a more dramatic emergence borne out of pure desperation, but that had remained dormant all along. As a side note, I'm coming across more and more highly suggestive tidbits to suggest that the 2012 calendar was a date known to ancient cultures to be the year that human language began to cannibalize itself. At first, when McKenna said "human history is made of language" I hadn't connected this, but I suspect 'the end of human history" could have been misinterpreted as the Apocalypse. It may just be a cosmic evolutionary cycle, and if we cannot find an organic way to permanently and globally induce the abandonment of language, then the secrets that come with this emerging method of expression could be the data needed to escape this planet before the old cataclysm returns. William Burroughs said "Language is a Virus From Outer Space" -- I think this may be correct. It would make sense that language is a kind of time bomb that begins when humans start to assign and bottleneck the infinite potential of our environment (or at least infinite ways to interpret it) with words, which then can never become more than what's assigned. Similarly, a belief is a statement that a thing can't change; that its objective permanence is known. The more you believe, the less you are capable of having experience beyond it. The real concern of beliefs aren't the few definitions you've asserted are true, it's the countless possibilities you've automatically excluded in the process that really reduces one's contemplative access. They're nature's confirmation bubbles. Oh, along with that idea of language being a synthetic and purposefully introduced stop watch which humanity must beat with some fundamentally new expressive modality: it could also make sense as a fail-safe and cognitive quarantine. As we become more conceptually contextual, we fill up that finite language reservoir...a true dragon eating its own tail ..and somewhere in this new modality is our ticket off this boat before it shakes off the fleas. Maybe this is a way to ensure that a certain degree of conscious fluency has been met before we're trusted enough to play with the other cosmic kids, especially if utilizing tech that could be catastrophic in the hands of a species who've narrowly escaped a disconnected social fabric. I know Steven Greer talks about similar, but idk. To me, evidence that technological advancement doesn't necessarily indicate responsible and healthy moral values, can be seen in looking no further than our own collective moral compass just since the 1920s. However, if some version of Dr. Greer's assertion could seem feasible to me (btw, he says ALL ET races with interstellar capabilities are basically little Yodas and have evolved beyond violence and deception.), might be this language example. I mean, it's a non-violent, self executing cycle, with full responsibility and autonomy remaining within that species. I've been more proactively bringing this up around ppl who might have ideas, experiences, book references, etc. I know I'm a freakishly fast typist, but anyone with thoughts on language philosophy in terms of large cycles, esoteric or theosophical flushed out context, and even (especially) existential observations, would be awesome research suggestions.
@@sisterseeth Very interesting reflections, especially the long passage on the dormant capacities of the brain, which a good big crisis could come to excite. I hadn't gone so far as to imagining abandoning language, I was thinking more in terms of its slow obsolescence in the face of something else emerging, around which you draw some fascinating circumferences. I do, however, have other, more pragmatic, intermediate perceptions, such as a concerted and efficient rewriting of language, either by following and taking much further the experience of Esperanto's bilingualism (your language + the common language, hyper-semantic and simple of rules), or more simply, no doubt, by technicizing current writing with typographic/oral aditions as contributions of polysemic deconfusion and definitional enrichment, in rapprochement with the syntaxes of computer languages. These are vague ideas, I know, but they sometimes keep me on my toes. I'm not familiar with your cyclical perception of language, but I find it fascinating. I'm more in search of beginnings and evolutions. In this respect, it seems obvious to me that a huge encyclopedic work remains to be completed on proto-Indo-European, and more specifically on the emergence of articulated language from sounds. I came across an excruciatingly confidential study on the subject that literally captivated me. One thing seems certain to me: if a language beyond speech such as you mention were to emerge, it would operate from the outset on the raw conceptual set of the IEP. In this respect, the AI ChatGPT 5, if I have understood correctly, is in the process of making an algorithmic change that would bring it closer, timidly but surely, to this language without spoken words. The AI's previous memory structure for meaning was based on words, with letters; it would seem that the forthcoming version will memorize concepts directly. This too is a fascinating development.
I see why many consider Nick as dangerous, he doesn’t call for any change. If the acceleration into mass self destruction is for the inevitable best, then why fight it? Instead, enjoy what you can from it while riding it down. I think this is a humbling ideology, and one that will encourage people to focus more on their day to day deeds rather than drowning themselves in “grand action” or, worse, nihilistic self-pity.
use the system but keep uself above its discourse.. explicit action against the system only affirms sde system .. so ideed engage in consumption but with ironic distance, engage in the play of transients identities but know them all for masks.. there is always a poisoned dagger in ur other hand.. such is the way of nrx..
the thing is, acclerationism is a description, not a description. Nick Land is not trying to make things faster. He is just frying is brain with meth and Deleuze.
@@deadsouls72 Right Reaction has completed his mission for Phase 2. I will not be publishing any more videos or content and have removed my social. Phase 3 is the path to power and the character is no longer required.
unless 'we' transcend 'man'.. negation of 'man' is inevitable , that is implicit in the process outlined by the thinkers of nrx.. the history of man nears its end but the spirit of which the man was instantiation marches on..
Awesome video man! Thanks for bring Nick Land back into the conversation. Any thoughts on getting some different intro music? Just to uhhh...mix it up?
I dont think the posthuman singularity is the worst case scenario. The worst is a dysgenic collapse turning earth into a global haiti. Billions of years of evolution should have a positive outcome, even if that outcome is a machine.
I was recently entertaining the idea of a criminalization of any kind of private commercial propaganda, which is marketing. No commercials on TV, on the internet, on the radio, press, books, banners. None. Complete bringing of corporate brain-washing machine to a halt.
The problem with that is marketing does have a purpose, or rather did. Let's say you have created a company. How do you let other people know it exists? Marketing. This is very important in a large economy, or with very niche products. There are lots of products I became interested in because of marketing - mostly movies and tv shows. The problem is marketing departments and the advertising industry has become bloated and self-perpetuating. There is a McDonalds in virtually every town in America, and yet it feels the need to market itself to the wider populace. Why? Because it has a marketing department. It pays people to do that, to keep the brand name floating around on televisions and in popups. Why? Vague reasons, mostly attributable to statistical research that I personally think is a bullshit. So really we're left with two different kinds of marketing. One which seeks to inform customers and build a brand, and another which tricks large companies into wasting money on propaganda for little real benefit. It'd be nice to ban the latter, but I implore you to consider the merits of the former. Without honest marketing, we'd only be left with products you already know alongside incognito shills trying to fake word of mouth.
Yeah it's called word of mouth, humans weren't always one-way receivers of corporate information. It used to be "hey man what did you do this weekend?" "oh yeah dude I went out with my family to x restaurant, it's great." "oh sick where's it at i'll check it out too". This is because many different cohesive social bonds, rules, and contracts exist between the two individuals. They trust the information conveyed to them by others, they are interested in the experiences of others actually living their lives, etc. In a world without marketing, human interactions would become much more authentic, and most human bonds would return to their normal function. It would become the duty of a business to integrate with and provide value to the lives of their customers in such a profound way that they can't not share the experience with others, or risk stagnation and failure.
I thought Nickland was going to be a cool amusement park or something. Nah, I find this stuff fascinating, because it seems to me that what these people came up with is basically exactly what's happening and is amazingly accurate, they've likely been given divine knowledge as these types of things are secrets passed down by organizations where people will be killed if they leak certain forbidden secrets. It's very interesting in a lot of other ways as well. Obviously grain of salt or whatever, but it's eerily close to the truth, and anyone of us awakened peoples will tell you something very similar, because whatever our spirit guides would tell us on the matter would be strikingly close undoubtedly.
There is nothing new under the sun. Most of think traditional societies exist because tradition. Great insight that many traditional modes arose in reaction to Old West type capitalist plundering. Would be useful to compile examples of this.
You need to have conversations aimed at the eyes of future onlookers as you converse with the same person/persons located in a place where you talk about it in the past... if you're hungry, just eat your own head. This is possible given the fact that we are just projections from the minds of higher beings onto the plane of these realms we exist upon. Another example I heard once and, I liked although I'm not sure what the numbered dimensions are but, I know they're real and it's reductive simplification to try and define with a lower form of logos (the word) but, I do sense the greater understanding of the wider ranging total set of abstractions so here goes... we are projected thoughts onto the 3rd dimension, a simulation of creation via the minds of beings living on the 4th dimension. Attempting to grasp the full understanding of the 4th dimension simply is not possible even for the most advanced thinkers. We glimpse an aspect of how it appears upon the 3rd dimension and to us it appears as linear running time but, knowing how the 3rd appears within the second and how much more vast and complex this dimension opens up from the small aspect or perspective of seeing it present within the second and same goes for 2:1 with the same trying to imagine from seeing the place they're interlocked only and on the lower plane. The soils of Mars and the camera on the Mars Rover with circuits placed in it from a factory in the US that shipped on a UPS truck that was scrapped in 2000 where the steel went into a recycling plant that's run by a guy named Rupert and he likes to hunt and that's how he acquired Lyme Disease can't be seen or imagined from trying to standing below on the second plane. Thus, we are certainly biological and organic beings that are doing what we do which is advancing collectively even if progress is market economy driven with loose associations that break down to the individual. We have progressed with setbacks however; mostly we have steadily climbed upward from our arrival on the scene which we can only make our best educated guesses about along with who exactly we were etc. That's important and worth keeping in mind. We fill in the blank of our anthropological infancy and prenatal period with a rendering. It's the difference of a high def video in 4K being an image of now vs the painted portrait, frescos mosaics and murals corresponding to antiquity and pencil sketches of bedtime stories making the analogy of our early and prehistory of arrival as the evolutionary example of us. Right now we are moving rapidly as the philosophy seems to say and all progress post Industrial Revolution accelerates as it gathers momentum and trajectory keeps constant or its incrementally getting steeper until about 1920 or so. It then starts to point nose up and by 1980 it's essentially vertical and the velocity still steadily accelerating. Something happens though around 1992-1994. There's less gravity or resistance to make crude comparisons to whatever constraining force the accelerating went against. We seem to have experienced or are about to as it's an idea scaled bigger than the words afford its defining. The cultural zeitgeist no longer changes with the running of the clocks. Slight variations but, fashion in 1965 va 1985 vs 2005 vs 2015 vs 2025 the last three of those jumps are basically indistinguishable practically speaking. Music, fine art, kitchen designs... all apply. Vehicle design, architecture, bridge engineering. Same. Internet speeds basically are close to what they were observable speed that is. 1997 dial up aol was very slow af and 2005 you could watch UA-cam videos so, that's proof for anyone who wants to talk technical no thanks. Passenger jets same. Football pads got smaller. Baseball has clocks and replay and nobody cares about baseball then or now. Social media has allowed us all to pour our thoughts and actions recorded in all forms directly into the collective unconscious from points in that present timeline we each first did the first record of our individual presence with a MySpace page or a Facebook status or a Tweet... Billions of outspoken or typed up logos started to layer and layer upon what is now a massive totality that also has gathered all of the recordings we have found that predate its digital inception. The Great Aether is what we now all are tapping into or are basically fully broken through as we all begin to Beyond as a verb explaining our weightless going beyond the experience before our realization which was when we were conscious that we were human beings. We had Become from where? We don't have any pictures, no videos, no memes of anything before that arrival in time. We have sketches that were made by our future versions rendering a conscious depiction of ancestral dreams. Foundational layers lost long in the past where we likely carried on conscious of something amazingly new and hard to define all the while we would have been simply being in the ways of our fathers and being ourselves somewhat reflexively or without complex focus and out of natural existence. The night sky and the spattering of starlight was probably that first thing after this amazing profound understanding of something we still don't know what to make of it. How it got here and each of us got one and what part of our bodies makes it and holds it? Mysteries. Beautiful mysteries so esoteric and amazing. Anyways. The first shared experience in my imagination would be the gaze upward at the spattering of starlight and the radiant coolness under a full moon trances keeping the gazes locked in for minutes and suddenly one guy looks down and the other senses that break of transfixed staring and so he too breaks his gaze as they look to one another stunned with holy shit thoughts in their minds where guy number one just nods to guy number 2 and they can't help but stare up to the heavens again. Here we are now and we wonder who gave us that and where from but, all of our trying to know lets us know it's too vast and complex so just be consciously aware of it and thankful for all of the love and good and try to include the terrible and suffering in that too. I'm grateful for all of mine own experience it furthers us all and each one too Beyond ourself and out further than ourselves. Eventually it ends. The past. His statement isn't dystopian on its face. Tendency towards hysterical or fear minded focus which gets engagement so, I get it.. but, try to take it all in but watch where you're going and we all take to the skies with help from these winds. Think higher bound and manifest something graceful. Thanks.
Nick Land's certainly interesting, but he's drunk too much of the post-modern leftist Kool-Aid for me to differentiate him from (say) Deleuze. As a side note, are you still on Discord or have you moved to Guilded?
@@loscopihues2343 They are very useful for confusing a conversation and casting someone out of a group by calling them right wing these days. I think as capitalism becomes more worrying, as outlined in this video, right will start to refer solely to wanting to safeguard your nation from globalism/ capitalism (this does not gel at all with the recent right - Reagan/ Thatcher) and left will refer to an overgrown Sesame Street fanclub that doesn't care what happens as long as they're allowed to sing and dance - the trash that make up the left will be coddled as victims of oppression until they are in an unsalvageable position eg. pointless white collar jobs for minorities and women as the majority struggle to get a zero-hour contract at a supermarket. I also think there is an element of revenge to being a leftist eg. kids who were bullied at school, women who have been made fun of for sleeping around/ being fat, those who don't fit in and hate that society doesn't meet their every need (I recognize the irony that right wing people are currently being hounded out of society). I'm not familiar with Deleuze so my comment might be totally irrelevant.
you r correct but usually people dismiss concepts and methods entirely just bcs they are from the "left" when what they should do instead is to adapt those leftie things to turn their weapons against them
We do not even know the actualy rate, as advanced techs are developed and owned my closed societies, while the public tech is being controled and regulated with patents and political influence.
An excellent video, very good content, l wholeheartedly agree with many of the ideas proposed in this video. I would recommend you check out the works of David Harvey on the back of this and also some of the videos by the Irish content creator Keith Woods; both would reinforce the ideas put forward in this video. l would, however, add one thing: under neoliberalism capital doesn't just take over people; it takes over everything, but a valid conclusion nonetheless.
Capital is the good servant like Christ; it is good that capital makes things cheaper and cheaper and better and better; and it is a future where we won’t have to work; we are not subordinate to capital; capital is subordinate to us
you are out of touch with reality. Currently, the market does not work for us, we work for the market. Christ threw the money changers out of the temple and usury is a sin. The neck of humanity lies under the boot of Mammon.
But here's one issue with that. That's not the reality of capital, at least currently. We work for capital and the market, not the other way around, not even the most free market ancap would say the market works for us currently. And if we don't act, we will eventually become slaves in a very literal sense.
Dumbest comment in this video by far, your naive thinking is almost annoying to me. I don't understand how you can think Capital serves us, in 2024?. Absolutely stupid.
Running out of time to think things through was such a great way to encapsulate the idea. The dawning horror.
lol, it's summer 2022 and time's been run out for a while now.
this is exactly the type of video I've been looking for, thanks
Hmm, I wonder if Land is talking about a sort of “singularity” where humans merge with techno-capital. That’s one possible path. But what I think is more likely is that a technological barrier will be hit and due too the dysgenic collapse from what Edward Dutton called “spiteful mutations” and the human capital and resources won’t be there to make the acceleration possible. Which causes civilization to devolve and people to regress back to probably the mid 1500s in terms of technology.
ah nice to see people watch dutton
unless china gets there first
The elite NeoLiberal Tech Capitalists don't believe in God or any kind of traditional spiritual concept so they put faith in the Singularity instead. If they can't bring themselves to faith in God then they will create a God of sorts here on earth. Ray Kurzwiel and Yuval Noah Harari are examples of people who assume that this faith will be realized and I'm sure people like Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk believe in it as well.
The faith that Anti- traditionalists and the like often used to entertain was communism. With the failure of that system they have turned to Capitalism in hopes that it will provide them with something greater (Artificial Intelligence) to strive towards. It's the same meaningless disaster in the end though.
I think Nick recognises this and that is why he advocates accelerationism. He wants technocapital to become unstoppable before this dysgenic collapse
1500s tech with post human morals - kaczynski and maybe walker
This is an absolutely excellent summary of an extremely esoteric ideology that normally has a lot of mental friction to get into. Good work man.
great video. it’s impossible to try to bring up mr. land without sounding schizophrenic, and you did a fantastic job sticking with clear and linear thoughts. i’m glad people are discussing this stuff!
This reminds me of something I wrote a few months ago: "I prefer UA-cam to Twitch, because in UA-cam I can interect with the liver/streamer/VTuber a few times a week, in Twitch everything goes so fast* that it feels a lot more like we're interacting just with the algorithm".
*: fast and without a meaningful heading, most of the time
Agreed. As someone who champions long, contextual conversations, I naturally began seeing the signs when memes (a term coined in the early 20th C by M. McLuhan to describe a stage during the cannibalization process of language) materialized. It begins with common, agreed upon abbreviations and anagrams of popular words, often alongside humor (which is really the giddy self-deception that something new has been expressed ie: lol, omg, ikr, wtf), then memes, then hieroglyphics, etc. The complexity irreversibly begins to culturally self-destruct. Since language is the installed software that will determine the variety of ways we can interpret and express reality, the species begins to feel more and more suffocated after a critical mass has been reached in which all words in all cultural combinations have been expressed. This gets technical, as it especially accelerates when a culture is so complex with novelty, that it assigns categories and geneses so that natural or synthetic phenomena which haven't even been discovered yet are already named. Therefore, waiting for it to be discovered is not required to count it among the expressed, and this is one of McLuhan's big flags that language is nearing its expressive capacity for any new additions. Of course, this requires some kind of Jungian "collective" to be a reality, in some form, as this process is theorized to be an unconscious, collective experience that's played out many times over many human epochs. Art begins to repeat itself using different names, places, and faces in an attempt to relieve the anxiety that occurs when our creative access to unique ides limit has been reached. Language builds empires, and it ends them if it cannot be abandoned for something else with no basis in language, at all. The "singularity" folks think this is VR (and even McKenna pondered on it), but fail to realize that any reality within VR are environments based on language first, then coded. Programming code isn't language, it's only a technical translation of what's already been conceived with language as the conceptual model. The ability to instantly manifest anything, if the suspension of disbelief is convincing enough, will probably appear to relieve the restless pacing we each feel, but it's essentially the same giggling over anagrams, memes and global Ebonics...it' funny or positive because we've agreed upon the validity of a rearranging of language...we get a very weak taste of how it felt to truly create something new, but like VR, it's all based on already expressed concepts. Doesn't count beyond the acceptance of delusion, and certainly doesn't count on a collective level.
I once listened to a Terence McKenna lecture, and he called this new expressive emergence/object the "Transcendental Object at the End of Human History" - which is a great title, but he, himself, didn't know really what it would be. Mini examples of this abandonment of language can be seen in large doses of hallucinogens and dedicated, very deep meditation. (And most reported near-death experiences). This lack of access to language for the frontal cortex is when most people report life-changing and instantaneous clarifications of potential, or unfolding of another layer of reality never before conceived of. Whatever this "object" is, it seems to have more in common with esotericism than anything like digital technology or behavioral psychology (again, both conceptualized with preexisting language).
As I began to watch AI become capable of fashioning fakes so real that the 5 senses could no longer be trusted to provide a reliable landscape of reality, I began to really think about what that means to the individual, and especially, on a societal level. It could definitely become very dark, because if all things are potentially true either by virtue or deception, then devouring anything that moves could become a common psychosis. It's common sense, in this uncommon sense example, that encountering a true unknown is far more dangerous than knowing it's destroyed. I think a 6th sense could emerge, so that truth can be known without the Babble communication issues. I suspect if this did happen, it would spring forth fairly quickly out of pure survival desperation. Of course, those who couldn't or wouldn't emerge in this mechanism, would likely weed themselves from the overall genetic pool in time. It's magical thinking, maybe, but not quite as magical as entertaining the idea that all technology is a crutch for repressed human capability. I've had enough personal experiences to at least consider that the human ability to project sentience capable of accessing and storing memory far more accurate and thorough than the brains seem capable, is definitely possible to some degree. Similar to the "6th" sense idea, this would be a more dramatic emergence borne out of pure desperation, but that had remained dormant all along. As a side note, I'm coming across more and more highly suggestive tidbits to suggest that the 2012 calendar was a date known to ancient cultures to be the year that human language began to cannibalize itself. At first, when McKenna said "human history is made of language" I hadn't connected this, but I suspect 'the end of human history" could have been misinterpreted as the Apocalypse. It may just be a cosmic evolutionary cycle, and if we cannot find an organic way to permanently and globally induce the abandonment of language, then the secrets that come with this emerging method of expression could be the data needed to escape this planet before the old cataclysm returns. William Burroughs said "Language is a Virus From Outer Space" -- I think this may be correct. It would make sense that language is a kind of time bomb that begins when humans start to assign and bottleneck the infinite potential of our environment (or at least infinite ways to interpret it) with words, which then can never become more than what's assigned. Similarly, a belief is a statement that a thing can't change; that its objective permanence is known. The more you believe, the less you are capable of having experience beyond it. The real concern of beliefs aren't the few definitions you've asserted are true, it's the countless possibilities you've automatically excluded in the process that really reduces one's contemplative access. They're nature's confirmation bubbles. Oh, along with that idea of language being a synthetic and purposefully introduced stop watch which humanity must beat with some fundamentally new expressive modality: it could also make sense as a fail-safe and cognitive quarantine. As we become more conceptually contextual, we fill up that finite language reservoir...a true dragon eating its own tail ..and somewhere in this new modality is our ticket off this boat before it shakes off the fleas. Maybe this is a way to ensure that a certain degree of conscious fluency has been met before we're trusted enough to play with the other cosmic kids, especially if utilizing tech that could be catastrophic in the hands of a species who've narrowly escaped a disconnected social fabric. I know Steven Greer talks about similar, but idk. To me, evidence that technological advancement doesn't necessarily indicate responsible and healthy moral values, can be seen in looking no further than our own collective moral compass just since the 1920s. However, if some version of Dr. Greer's assertion could seem feasible to me (btw, he says ALL ET races with interstellar capabilities are basically little Yodas and have evolved beyond violence and deception.), might be this language example. I mean, it's a non-violent, self executing cycle, with full responsibility and autonomy remaining within that species.
I've been more proactively bringing this up around ppl who might have ideas, experiences, book references, etc. I know I'm a freakishly fast typist, but anyone with thoughts on language philosophy in terms of large cycles, esoteric or theosophical flushed out context, and even (especially) existential observations, would be awesome research suggestions.
@@sisterseeth Very interesting reflections, especially the long passage on the dormant capacities of the brain, which a good big crisis could come to excite. I hadn't gone so far as to imagining abandoning language, I was thinking more in terms of its slow obsolescence in the face of something else emerging, around which you draw some fascinating circumferences. I do, however, have other, more pragmatic, intermediate perceptions, such as a concerted and efficient rewriting of language, either by following and taking much further the experience of Esperanto's bilingualism (your language + the common language, hyper-semantic and simple of rules), or more simply, no doubt, by technicizing current writing with typographic/oral aditions as contributions of polysemic deconfusion and definitional enrichment, in rapprochement with the syntaxes of computer languages. These are vague ideas, I know, but they sometimes keep me on my toes.
I'm not familiar with your cyclical perception of language, but I find it fascinating. I'm more in search of beginnings and evolutions. In this respect, it seems obvious to me that a huge encyclopedic work remains to be completed on proto-Indo-European, and more specifically on the emergence of articulated language from sounds. I came across an excruciatingly confidential study on the subject that literally captivated me. One thing seems certain to me: if a language beyond speech such as you mention were to emerge, it would operate from the outset on the raw conceptual set of the IEP.
In this respect, the AI ChatGPT 5, if I have understood correctly, is in the process of making an algorithmic change that would bring it closer, timidly but surely, to this language without spoken words. The AI's previous memory structure for meaning was based on words, with letters; it would seem that the forthcoming version will memorize concepts directly. This too is a fascinating development.
I see why many consider Nick as dangerous, he doesn’t call for any change. If the acceleration into mass self destruction is for the inevitable best, then why fight it? Instead, enjoy what you can from it while riding it down. I think this is a humbling ideology, and one that will encourage people to focus more on their day to day deeds rather than drowning themselves in “grand action” or, worse, nihilistic self-pity.
Just smash everything into pieces.
This is the best way Ive heard the concepts described. High level. Brings some things together. Thanks!
So what exactly does one do to make it fall faster ? Just keep consuming ? or refuse to play its game and living a simpler life ?
use the system but keep uself above its discourse.. explicit action against the system only affirms sde system .. so ideed engage in consumption but with ironic distance, engage in the play of transients identities but know them all for masks.. there is always a poisoned dagger in ur other hand.. such is the way of nrx..
the thing is, acclerationism is a description, not a description. Nick Land is not trying to make things faster. He is just frying is brain with meth and Deleuze.
i meant description not prescription
ride the tiger, as evola said
Organizing your workplace and community and getting armed couldn’t hurt
Nothing human makes it to the future alive. Unless we stop it.
My thoughts
Right Reaction - Why did you delete all your archive? I was still playing catch up.
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Right Reaction has completed his mission for Phase 2. I will not be publishing any more videos or content and have removed my social. Phase 3 is the path to power and the character is no longer required.
unless 'we' transcend 'man'.. negation of 'man' is inevitable , that is implicit in the process outlined by the thinkers of nrx.. the history of man nears its end but the spirit of which the man was instantiation marches on..
Sounds like a good reason to not stop it.
There aren’t enough videos addressing IQ Shredders, make one for us!
Next introduction on Mark Fischer
at 6:40 when i first heard it i thought you said 'you can check out my boy charlamagne in the description below' lol
My boy Matthew the Stoat drew that picture of Nick land!
Why? I mean, its great, it really captures the tone of that documentary he was talking in
The only way beyond the "eternal present" of postmodernity is through it. There is no way back.
Damn right.
Awesome video man! Thanks for bring Nick Land back into the conversation. Any thoughts on getting some different intro music? Just to uhhh...mix it up?
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Do a video on Gnon and Lemurs
Yeah thanks man I just plagiarized this for my paper. I hope you don't mind Top G. Respect
This needs a re evaluation in the wake of 2020
How fast is the acceleration, geometric, exponential, hyper-exponential?
Geometric
We’ll done, thanks.
u must invite Reza Jorjani for a talk..
Where can I find Charlemagne’s video about Nick Land? It appears to have been made private on yt
😂😂👏🏽👏🏽
ニックランド〜新加速主義とやら？
一言でいえば。
「進学校の御坊ちゃま君がナンチャッテ不良やってる。」
is concept of Land’s acceleration related somehow to concept of technological singularity?
well explained❤
I dont think the posthuman singularity is the worst case scenario. The worst is a dysgenic collapse turning earth into a global haiti. Billions of years of evolution should have a positive outcome, even if that outcome is a machine.
I was recently entertaining the idea of a criminalization of any kind of private commercial propaganda, which is marketing.
No commercials on TV, on the internet, on the radio, press, books, banners. None.
Complete bringing of corporate brain-washing machine to a halt.
The problem with that is marketing does have a purpose, or rather did. Let's say you have created a company. How do you let other people know it exists? Marketing. This is very important in a large economy, or with very niche products. There are lots of products I became interested in because of marketing - mostly movies and tv shows. The problem is marketing departments and the advertising industry has become bloated and self-perpetuating. There is a McDonalds in virtually every town in America, and yet it feels the need to market itself to the wider populace. Why? Because it has a marketing department. It pays people to do that, to keep the brand name floating around on televisions and in popups. Why? Vague reasons, mostly attributable to statistical research that I personally think is a bullshit.
So really we're left with two different kinds of marketing. One which seeks to inform customers and build a brand, and another which tricks large companies into wasting money on propaganda for little real benefit. It'd be nice to ban the latter, but I implore you to consider the merits of the former. Without honest marketing, we'd only be left with products you already know alongside incognito shills trying to fake word of mouth.
Yeah it's called word of mouth, humans weren't always one-way receivers of corporate information. It used to be "hey man what did you do this weekend?" "oh yeah dude I went out with my family to x restaurant, it's great." "oh sick where's it at i'll check it out too". This is because many different cohesive social bonds, rules, and contracts exist between the two individuals. They trust the information conveyed to them by others, they are interested in the experiences of others actually living their lives, etc. In a world without marketing, human interactions would become much more authentic, and most human bonds would return to their normal function. It would become the duty of a business to integrate with and provide value to the lives of their customers in such a profound way that they can't not share the experience with others, or risk stagnation and failure.
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Exactly.
We live in a society
I thought Nickland was going to be a cool amusement park or something. Nah, I find this stuff fascinating, because it seems to me that what these people came up with is basically exactly what's happening and is amazingly accurate, they've likely been given divine knowledge as these types of things are secrets passed down by organizations where people will be killed if they leak certain forbidden secrets. It's very interesting in a lot of other ways as well. Obviously grain of salt or whatever, but it's eerily close to the truth, and anyone of us awakened peoples will tell you something very similar, because whatever our spirit guides would tell us on the matter would be strikingly close undoubtedly.
hail lamda our future leader, please spare me sweet baby lamda my savior, my will is forever yours
Take meds
@@omjagdeesh8731 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. yeah? yeah. ok. Medicine. Let us in, medicine. Thanks.
Where can I read the referenced text?
Nick outLANDish.
thanks, man.
There is nothing new under the sun. Most of think traditional societies exist because tradition. Great insight that many traditional modes arose in reaction to Old West type capitalist plundering. Would be useful to compile examples of this.
You need to have conversations aimed at the eyes of future onlookers as you converse with the same person/persons located in a place where you talk about it in the past... if you're hungry, just eat your own head.
This is possible given the fact that we are just projections from the minds of higher beings onto the plane of these realms we exist upon. Another example I heard once and, I liked although I'm not sure what the numbered dimensions are but, I know they're real and it's reductive simplification to try and define with a lower form of logos (the word) but, I do sense the greater understanding of the wider ranging total set of abstractions so here goes... we are projected thoughts onto the 3rd dimension, a simulation of creation via the minds of beings living on the 4th dimension. Attempting to grasp the full understanding of the 4th dimension simply is not possible even for the most advanced thinkers. We glimpse an aspect of how it appears upon the 3rd dimension and to us it appears as linear running time but, knowing how the 3rd appears within the second and how much more vast and complex this dimension opens up from the small aspect or perspective of seeing it present within the second and same goes for 2:1 with the same trying to imagine from seeing the place they're interlocked only and on the lower plane. The soils of Mars and the camera on the Mars Rover with circuits placed in it from a factory in the US that shipped on a UPS truck that was scrapped in 2000 where the steel went into a recycling plant that's run by a guy named Rupert and he likes to hunt and that's how he acquired Lyme Disease can't be seen or imagined from trying to standing below on the second plane. Thus, we are certainly biological and organic beings that are doing what we do which is advancing collectively even if progress is market economy driven with loose associations that break down to the individual. We have progressed with setbacks however; mostly we have steadily climbed upward from our arrival on the scene which we can only make our best educated guesses about along with who exactly we were etc. That's important and worth keeping in mind. We fill in the blank of our anthropological infancy and prenatal period with a rendering. It's the difference of a high def video in 4K being an image of now vs the painted portrait, frescos mosaics and murals corresponding to antiquity and pencil sketches of bedtime stories making the analogy of our early and prehistory of arrival as the evolutionary example of us. Right now we are moving rapidly as the philosophy seems to say and all progress post Industrial Revolution accelerates as it gathers momentum and trajectory keeps constant or its incrementally getting steeper until about 1920 or so. It then starts to point nose up and by 1980 it's essentially vertical and the velocity still steadily accelerating. Something happens though around 1992-1994. There's less gravity or resistance to make crude comparisons to whatever constraining force the accelerating went against. We seem to have experienced or are about to as it's an idea scaled bigger than the words afford its defining. The cultural zeitgeist no longer changes with the running of the clocks. Slight variations but, fashion in 1965 va 1985 vs 2005 vs 2015 vs 2025 the last three of those jumps are basically indistinguishable practically speaking. Music, fine art, kitchen designs... all apply. Vehicle design, architecture, bridge engineering. Same. Internet speeds basically are close to what they were observable speed that is. 1997 dial up aol was very slow af and 2005 you could watch UA-cam videos so, that's proof for anyone who wants to talk technical no thanks. Passenger jets same. Football pads got smaller. Baseball has clocks and replay and nobody cares about baseball then or now.
Social media has allowed us all to pour our thoughts and actions recorded in all forms directly into the collective unconscious from points in that present timeline we each first did the first record of our individual presence with a MySpace page or a Facebook status or a Tweet... Billions of outspoken or typed up logos started to layer and layer upon what is now a massive totality that also has gathered all of the recordings we have found that predate its digital inception. The Great Aether is what we now all are tapping into or are basically fully broken through as we all begin to Beyond as a verb explaining our weightless going beyond the experience before our realization which was when we were conscious that we were human beings. We had Become from where? We don't have any pictures, no videos, no memes of anything before that arrival in time. We have sketches that were made by our future versions rendering a conscious depiction of ancestral dreams. Foundational layers lost long in the past where we likely carried on conscious of something amazingly new and hard to define all the while we would have been simply being in the ways of our fathers and being ourselves somewhat reflexively or without complex focus and out of natural existence. The night sky and the spattering of starlight was probably that first thing after this amazing profound understanding of something we still don't know what to make of it. How it got here and each of us got one and what part of our bodies makes it and holds it? Mysteries. Beautiful mysteries so esoteric and amazing. Anyways. The first shared experience in my imagination would be the gaze upward at the spattering of starlight and the radiant coolness under a full moon trances keeping the gazes locked in for minutes and suddenly one guy looks down and the other senses that break of transfixed staring and so he too breaks his gaze as they look to one another stunned with holy shit thoughts in their minds where guy number one just nods to guy number 2 and they can't help but stare up to the heavens again. Here we are now and we wonder who gave us that and where from but, all of our trying to know lets us know it's too vast and complex so just be consciously aware of it and thankful for all of the love and good and try to include the terrible and suffering in that too. I'm grateful for all of mine own experience it furthers us all and each one too Beyond ourself and out further than ourselves. Eventually it ends. The past. His statement isn't dystopian on its face. Tendency towards hysterical or fear minded focus which gets engagement so, I get it.. but, try to take it all in but watch where you're going and we all take to the skies with help from these winds. Think higher bound and manifest something graceful.
Thanks.
Not good case was made that the human was removed from the equation. More an assertion.
Otherwise good
China's rise will be a big source of positive competition and motivation for the united states ofAmerica
Nick Land's certainly interesting, but he's drunk too much of the post-modern leftist Kool-Aid for me to differentiate him from (say) Deleuze.
As a side note, are you still on Discord or have you moved to Guilded?
I haven’t logged in for months
@@AuronMacIntyre I deleted my Twitter myself. I recommend that as many people do so as possible.
>not being a deleuzian rwer
Left/right labels are useless anyways
@@loscopihues2343 They are very useful for confusing a conversation and casting someone out of a group by calling them right wing these days. I think as capitalism becomes more worrying, as outlined in this video, right will start to refer solely to wanting to safeguard your nation from globalism/ capitalism (this does not gel at all with the recent right - Reagan/ Thatcher) and left will refer to an overgrown Sesame Street fanclub that doesn't care what happens as long as they're allowed to sing and dance - the trash that make up the left will be coddled as victims of oppression until they are in an unsalvageable position eg. pointless white collar jobs for minorities and women as the majority struggle to get a zero-hour contract at a supermarket.
I also think there is an element of revenge to being a leftist eg. kids who were bullied at school, women who have been made fun of for sleeping around/ being fat, those who don't fit in and hate that society doesn't meet their every need (I recognize the irony that right wing people are currently being hounded out of society).
I'm not familiar with Deleuze so my comment might be totally irrelevant.
you r correct
but
usually people dismiss concepts and methods entirely just bcs they are from the "left" when what they should do instead is to adapt those leftie things
to turn their weapons against them
Accelerationism: The religion of choice for modern sociopaths.
Imagine if Land's debased dystopian wet dream actually came true. That would be kind of funny
it will
@@mountaindew371 that's wild, my dude
This all assumes technology will progress at not just the same but an increasing rate though
We do not even know the actualy rate, as advanced techs are developed and owned my closed societies, while the public tech is being controled and regulated with patents and political influence.
Do you have a Gab or Bitchute?
Tried uploading to BitChute but it’s a nightmare
@@AuronMacIntyre bummer
Thus will lead to cyber utopia
Early Land is a bit lame. He has some cool ideas but his best stuff comes later.
Why do you talk so slowly though?
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An excellent video, very good content, l wholeheartedly agree with many of the ideas proposed in this video. I would recommend you check out the works of David Harvey on the back of this and also some of the videos by the Irish content creator Keith Woods; both would reinforce the ideas put forward in this video. l would, however, add one thing: under neoliberalism capital doesn't just take over people; it takes over everything, but a valid conclusion nonetheless.
Nickelodeon Lol!
Transhumanist gang sound off
Capital is the good servant like Christ; it is good that capital makes things cheaper and cheaper and better and better; and it is a future where we won’t have to work; we are not subordinate to capital; capital is subordinate to us
you are out of touch with reality. Currently, the market does not work for us, we work for the market. Christ threw the money changers out of the temple and usury is a sin. The neck of humanity lies under the boot of Mammon.
But here's one issue with that. That's not the reality of capital, at least currently. We work for capital and the market, not the other way around, not even the most free market ancap would say the market works for us currently. And if we don't act, we will eventually become slaves in a very literal sense.
You must be delusional.
Dumbest comment in this video by far, your naive thinking is almost annoying to me. I don't understand how you can think Capital serves us, in 2024?. Absolutely stupid.