Went in PC World once as needed some new fans for my case in a hurry. "Why would you need fans in a case?" said the confident young salesteam member. Slightly confused by such a question from a person who sold computers for a living, I replied "To cool the motherboard VRM's, chipset, the RAM, drives, to move heat aw..." "Motherboards all have their own fans" he interrupted. I never went back in PC World.
Andrew Roby yeah but that's sooooo minor now and days as most things are made out of materials such as Kevlar and other materials that disperse heat off your components. most average computers only need 1 or 2 fans and your good unless you are running a high end monster like me in witch I go watercooled
thecanadianwill Right, but he's not running a high end monster, so it's unnecessary. Even a $30 upgrade that isn't going to do anything then it's $30 wasted. I just hate seeing people throw money at unnecessary upgrades just for the sake of spending money & making their computer look cool.
@@Impecable.. lol no, you have to send it to them first where they 'inspect' it! This is where it gets scary though, what if you didn't do it intentionally but they think you did! So I'd just stick with cpu fan coolers.
Kyle : "It's probably the aspect people look for most when looking for a CPU cooler and that is...." Me : "Aesthetics" Kyle : "Performance" Me : "What"
Adanu191 because art has been known to increase our happy mood and being satisfied with looks has been part of us humans since art ever emerged. It relieves stress and clutter from our brain.. bla bla bla.. go educate yourself fool. Haha
gestrobang132 try throwing all your garbage in your room and tell me if thats ok to live in, just mess your room up and live like that. Ive made my point and everything around us is enough proof for that. Have a nice day. Haha.
***** Yes. The frozen food tends to warm up as it passes through his body so it needs a bit of a boost on the other end just to make sure its cold enough. Its actually quite impressive. I've got no heatsink and it still manages to sit at around 45C playing Skyrim. He may be $9 an hour, but its worth it.
My stock intel i7 6700k fan keeps my cpu plenty cool. At 1400 celcius+, it really melts the silicon components that way I know they're performing at maximum overdrive.
*To summarize* Liquid coolers are typically better but require more maitnence and have a higher risk of damaging if they leak also the cost to set up is typically higher. Fans are cheaper but even the strongest one is still slightly weaker than a mid teir liquid cooling rig. Easy to set up and replace by your average user.
+Tobias L. If the pump fails(which will happen at some point) the liquid does not move, and your cpu overheats and breaks quick. With an air cooler if the only thing that could fail is the fan and if the fan fails you'll still have time to save your data and turn of your pc without it overheating.
+R4MP4G3RXD Yeah this could happen over time. But actually i don't think this a problem. Everything that is mechanical will break sometime. You have to be aware of that when you buy something. But it will take a few years if you have a good product. So i'm fine with that. Also this will not kill the cpu. Cpus today won't die if the cooler does not work correctly. Even if you suddenly remove the cooler the cpu will clock itself down or just shut the pc off completly. So that is not really a big problem. But for the rest of the time you can have a silent but still overclocked system which will improve your work and gaming experience quite a bit. So i wouldn't really consider this as a downside.
+Mark White I wanted to add some extra notes if possible. I also have water cooling for my CPU. The biggest downside and the most realistic is, that If you get a sudden shutdown, or power loss in your household, the CPU will and heat up like crazy since the heat won't be dissipated since the pump does not carry the heat into your radiator. Otherwise watercooling performs better then aircooling. Regards, Tass
@darok krauser I always thought water coolers give better performance than most, except the very best, air coolers. The main downside though is it's more expensive and a greater risk of danger
As someone who actually manages a bunch of PC's, I would say that air coolers are the way to go for almost every situation, save for someone who really enjoys overclocking and such (I liquid cool my home PC). The Cooler Master 212 EVO does a great job, even out in the plant where it gets over a 100 degrees Fahrenheit (I add another fan for those rigs). I will accept the Intel stock fan for admin computers, but any workstation, or even basic i7 exec build gets a 212 EVO. Consumer AIO's are great for guys who coddle their PC's, but if you want to set it and forget it, get a good air cooler. The Noctua 14S or Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 3 are wonderful. One can never go wrong with a Cooler Master 212 EVO. I would also say that cases matter quite a bit. A good case does wonders, and all cases benefit from more fans. Throw a few Scythe Gentle Typhoons or Noctua NF-12's in your case and all temps will decline. Even stand-alone servers perform dramatically better if they can turbo all the time with a good case kitted out with all fans (rack-mounted machines are fine, but those garbage tower servers often have thermal throttling). I would recommend after-market air coolers to all but the most committed enthusiasts, and if you are building a random computer for a relative, NEVER put a liquid cooler in there. NEVER.
I use water - and I have never coddled my pc. Wasn't really anymore or less difficult to install as a beefy air cooler (less actually - working around a large cooler sux, IMO), and it is basically set it and forget it (was for me, anyway - AIO). To each his own.
BINARYGOD I agree to each his own (I currently use an H80i gt, and at one time had a custom water loop), but many people are fine with something like a Cooler Master 212 Evo. Furthermore, if one is not overclocking, most small tower coolers are more than adequate.
Garry Perkins yes, depending on location on earth, if overclocking past 4.5, then water - is my personal rule. Otherwise, not that big air, or hell, that abomination that comes with the cpu is ok (I mean, ok, it is not, but for an average joe or grandma...) :-)
he got a shit cooler with that plastic tubing that reminds me of a straw.. Shoulda got a good one like a H100i or something with thick rubber or braided tubing..
I've used AIO for every build I've ever done. Why? Cardioid microphones in a home studio. AIO is FAR more quiet than any air cooler I've heard. As to everyone worried about leaks: it is so bloody rare as to be a non-issue. Plus nine of ten use nonconductive liquids. So yeah. Thinking of doing a hard line custom loop on this next build, but may hold off.
@@louiecornago6433 hello I use a free bit of software called core temp. It monitors your CPU/processor. It also monitors other things. I tried a few others but found this to be simple and easy. There might be better ones out there though.
gamwpanagia untill 1000 rpm its unhearable for me. After that you basically just hear the swoooosh of the air comming through it but no other noises than that. I know that problem haha. When i was builiding my rig i took this cooler and some other case and i had the luck that the site i was buying the stuff told me that my case is too smal for my cooler. I have fractal design define s case now and im happy with it. I have a nice window there and the airflow is good too since all the HDD/SSD are behind the motherboard where all the cables are :)
MrSuvvri That's a lovely case bro,classy af. I haven't heard nor read anything bad about the 212. Oh well,might as well as go for the v21 case and get the damn 212 lol.
I just cannot afford the risk of liquid coolers... just can't.. I put my all into my PC and that is why I can not even risk a 3% chance of a leak happening..
master Evo is a beast hyperx evo etc.. however for the start I might stick with Intel Stock I got laying around afterwards near end year I'll be getting the H60 Corsair Hydro Liquid Cooler, simply for the looks tbh, air coolers are way too big and cover way too much space for my taste but I am kinda scared of leaks from the liquid ones :'(
Solocid AIO leaks are a lot more rare these days. Not to mention, Corsair, NZXT and probably all reputable companies that sell them offer full hardware replacement if the unit leaks.
Well I buy them from a third party not to mention amazon etc don't ship almost anything here.. even though the pieces are new I doubt the guy will give me warranty. That is why I fear it so much even though it looks epic
OpTic ChoKeSHoT Yes, I was using the 2600 and OC it from 3.3 to 4, fans are always on the highest profile. Maybe I'm just lucky, but haven't had any problems with corsair products. I'm using the h100i now on my other skylake rig it's OC to 4.5 right now but ima try for 4.7, lets see how many years it lasts.
I was thinking of getting a liquid cooler just because it can look so sick, but now I'm realizing that for the pc I want to build, I would save both money and risk in just buying the air cooler. Such a great video, keep it up!
I miss vids like this. To the point and without a bs clickbait thumbnail/title. I guess this is just how UA-cam algorithms work now, so I can't actually see it like Kyle might. Either way, I still watch the vids today and appreciate the content.
dont listen to that evaporating shit. Only happens to low end watercoolers. An AIO isnt like a water loop. No managing, the water is in already, and also, its sexy. How to install: Put your fans on the radiator in a pull, push, or buy 2 extra fans for push/pull (Recommend pull, best for keeping dust out) install that shit to your top, front, rear, wherever youre able to fit two 120mm fans (i belive h100i is 240mm), obviously actually install it, and youre good to go
Skarokin This actually really helped me man, thank you. I've got a NZXT Phantom 410, so had to put the radiator above the inner frame, but otherwise everything looks good.
I'm cooling my 1920x threadripper with a noctuna aircooler and 2 fans. It look's great, is quiet, it keeps the cpu under 55 c° under heavy load and the best part is it has now risk of getting a leak.
Don't ever buy Zalman liquid coolers. I let my Dark Souls on when I went to the next room and suddenly, when I came, I saw it leaking. That son of a btch destroyed my gpu.
@@iflex7640 nah it does tho just be careful with it and ur good to go i would rather have a beautiful pc rather than some ugly ass pc with just a LITTLE more performance bro with that rgb u can make a disco party with that shit
"Get on my level, Bro." BWAAAhahahaha! I may actually know that guy! Informative, hilarious, extremely well done. Thank you. But now I want that awesome custom water rig!! Any videos on that?
I got a be quiet dark pro 4 and am very happy. 80 bucks and massive heat displacement and it looks mean in my build. I couldn’t ask for anything more really
+Nickolas Berdzenishvili yeah? how so water cooling still leads to dust in the system my Georgian friend. it still uses the circulation of air to create an equal temperature with the ambient air. air is moving in and out of the case. dust will follow this is why you use dust filterers.
Cyortonic Yes, but what if it leaks. mentioned. It could cause overvoltage which could kill other parts of the PC. It is an additional risk which you doesn't have with air cooling.
I don't think there's a super significant risk with a AIO water cooler. I haven't been very gentle with mine (trying to fit it in a micro-ATX case) and so far no problems. That custom built water cooling on the other hand....
Really appreciate this video. I was going to go for liquid cooled for my second build, but after watching this I realize air cooled is the way to go. many thanks.
+Nerevar22g The liquid used in AIO's should be non-conductive. Even if it's distilled water, it's still non-conductive. There are desktop computers out there that are submerged in liquid to cool everything, with no special work done to any part of the computer, and they work by using a non-conductive liquid.
It bugs me when people say AIO fan curve based on CPU temperature. With the closed loop, the fans can only control / maintain liquid temperature. That temperature changes gradually as opposed to CPU temp which is faster temp changes and more dynamic. Set the fan curve to adapt to the liquid heat rising to keep overall cooling effect under control. When first setting up, monitor liquid temperatures at idle based on ambient temperature. Set the curve based on liquid temperature performance and noise level preferences. CPU temperature should not dictate fan curve on the AIO.
I watched a vid I think by linus tech tips where they compared 3 noctua fans and 3 AIO's all different sizes (all 6 coolers top of the line) and the best one was the largest noctua fan, followed by the medium AIO's, so their is that to consider.
i started out with a ThermalTake 2.0... On my next System i went with a ThermalTake 3.0.. it's been running for the past 3 years non-stop with no problems.
Great video Kyle! I always love your videos, as they do a great job of explaining things while also keeping the feel very "relaxed". Keep up the good work!
Unless you're aiming for the "overclocking champion of the world" there is no need for liquid cooling. Unless you just have to have it. Aircooled systems on a moderate overclock will always be more quiet.
So I build a full out custom liquid cooling rig. One thing you didn't mention is the heat that is dumped onto your video card, memory and mother board from the air cooler. A water cooled system dumps this heat outside the case keeping all your other components cooler at the same time. This is a big factor...
You have said so much that I don't even know whether you missed or actually mentioned the important point: most of the air coolers are very often interfere with installation of the RAM modules. And if the RAM modules are coming with the heat sinks it's almost impossible to use these RAM modules. While liquid coolers almost never have this particular problem.
Also, if an Aircooler fan breaks, the cooling tower itself still works and provides passive cooling, just without the added airflow. If a watercooler pump breaks, the entire system doesn´t work anymore.
RGB air coolers are badass with the right complimenting parts. Neon / brightly colored liquid cooling liquid with a 9th gen i9, RTX 2080 ti, and $3,000 in RGB lights is badass
how about room temperature? I lived in the tropic country and my room doesn't have any cooler like air conditioner and its pretty hot when summer day... which one the best option for my PC? air cooler or liquid cooler?
Yikak4 Yes, if you don't OC then you may skip purchasing after market coolers. BUT, if you want for better temperature and quiet performance you may check NOCTUA.
Yikak4 well. id say wait till your stock heatsink starts to fail, then spend some 30-40$ on a good aftermarket. intel stock heatsink that comes with the cpu is quite trashy imo. the plastic parts that bolt into your mobo have some worst design.
if you're not over clocking your pc might be cooler than that single fan in the Xbox one lol run noctu fans in full ape shit mode oh shit my computer is trying to fly lol
I had a Hyper 212 Evo on my old PC. First, it came with the wrong standoffs. Cooler Master sent me a new kit and I finally got it installed but what a PITA. I have to say it worked well. When I built my new PC I installed a Corsair Hydro Series liquid CPU cooler. It took seconds to install and my i7 4790 @ 4.40 GHz is running at 55°C tops (usually around 50°C) at 75°F~80°F ambient room temperature.
I bough Corsair water cooler and it serves me only for 2years so I switch back heatsink cooler, and my choice this time is Noctua D15 which is a good buy and I can used for future update like x99 :)
hands down best performance cooler you will ever find custom water loop with a peltier cooler built into the resivoir the colder the coolant is = the cooler your CPU runs the air cooling equivalent is to pipe the output from an air conditioner into your case
Great way to soak your components in condensation, unless you closely monitor the ambient dewpoint, and have your peltier modulate to keep the coolant just above that temp. Or submerge the whole unit in mineral oil so you can run your coolant near freezing without a condensation issue.
Sarkazym is correct, it's extremely rare. And even more rare when you go with a brand like Corsair. Corsair is just plain reliable. I've had three different Corsair liquid coolers since 2012 and they've all worked perfect with zero issues. The h80i v2 keeps my i5-6600k running at 27 degrees Celsius when idling. 62 Celsius under full load on Prime 95. I'm also using sub-standard thermal paste at the moment too. With top-notch paste my idle temps would easily be 25 Celsius and max temp under load would probably drop under 60 Celsius.
I've had the same AIO in my rig for 6 years. No problems and my temps never go above 40. Yes if it were to leak it could take your whole system out. Its mounted on the CPU above my GPU and Power Supply. A shorted power supply could fry everything. That said I've been pretty rough to it when changing out my thermal paste from time to time and still runs like a charm with no leaks. I'm in the market to buy another one just because its 6 years old and I'm not pushing my luck lol
Put a 2-12 Evo on my first rig. It runs well, doesn't look bad, nothing is on fire, it can't leak and it cost like 40 bucks to keep my 200 dollar processor intact. AIOs seem a little pointless to me, especially as my current upgrade path is to get a better graphics card than a hand me down 970
yodabolt can you guys tell me what case you have? I'm trying to decide between the NH-D14 and 15 because the 14 is slightly smaller. I just want to know if i'll be able to also use my side case fan on my HAF 922 case...
You can move it with the cooler instaled. According to noctua there was never a motherboard damaged by one of their coolers. I think that its more dangerous to move liquid coolers and powering on your pc after a tube got loose and liquid spills all over your gpu.
Ive been told high temps reduce the longevity of your components. Makes sense. The question I have is "how much?" For example, if I liquid cool a CPU can I assume I am keeping it cool enough to keep its designed performance (all things left equal) for the extent of its designed life? I know there is no definitive answer to this, but I am just trying to understand the idea of component longevity and understand enough to make educated decisions on how to make my build and how long I can expect it to work well.
Zlobni Kotlet The NH-D14 outperforms most AIO watercoolers in terms of noise vs cooling performance.. http :// www .tomshardware.com/reviews/nepton-280l-tundra-td02-water3.0-pro-reserator3-max,3607-12.html
Just came across this video, and while entertaining, I find a huge huge problem with it. Let me explain. I design PCBs for a living. All our designs are for industry, and naturally, include processors, memory sticks, SOACs and such... Processors are soldered in our Reflow Ovens, where, for Lead-Free processes, the temperature reaches 220 degrees Celsius just to MELT solder, and goes up to 297 degrees to obtain optimum flow.... Whether a processor is at 70 degrees or 50 degrees is a moot point. It simply won't matter. These chips were born in a fiery hell.
they might be born in a fiery hell. but they are NOT running current while being soldered. any cpu with electricity flowing through them will short circuit and die anywhere near those soldering temps. the difference between 70 degrees and 50 is going to simply be overclock headroom. the cooler the cpu is the better the overclock, and more of a temp buffer. and a cpu operating at 80 C for most of its life will likely have a shorter lifespan. so the sweet spot is a nice low (ish) temp with a decent overclock, and room for higher clock speeds, when more performance is desired.
well, in the material/physics point of view yes they can survive that, but processors were built to save itself from melting when it reaches 95c, either by shutting down via blue screen, or deliberately slowing down to 10%. and from what I know, most metals restrict electric conductivity at extreme temperatures. as much as the pcb lithography is getting smaller and smaller with the goal to produce less heat and consume less power, heat will always be the problem to good performance. shaping metal in a short time will definitely require a lot of heat. but cpus at 90c for at least 8 straight hours a week for 3-5 years?(I know that's like worst case scenario, but imagine server use) that's a different story...
Only one answer, liquid cooling only!! No matter if you use an AiO solution or a custom loop, nothing beats liquid cooling period! Great videos man...I just subscribed!
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I just flip my pillow over and put it in my pc
c00l d0lph33n put what ??
Omg lmao
Wut
Lmaoooo
i get it XD
I don't need a cooler here in Antarctica... the room temp of my igloo cools my PC down pretty well..
hamza hussain The dream.
Shakstar12 yes
Lol. Now all you have to do is wear 30 jackets
If you have an AMD CPU, your igloo can't cool shit.
Toblerone fan fan fan boyyy. and i have Intel, but amd do a good job with CPU and GPU.
Reasons for water cooling:
1. you overclock
2. The NZXT 3D cooler looks so good
3. you have too much money and no idea.
Im at #3 😅
4. Safer when you want to move/ship your PC
im #2, the cooler looks too good compared to others AIO.
I’m scared it will leak
My pump broke on my water cooler, going to a msi core fror xl now
Me: Liquid leak risk? Pfft my pc will evaporate the water leak before it damages my pc
@@jasenrock But his comment is a joke. Just like you
Unlimited-32 I’m new to pc building it’s pretty easy to understand
@@unlimited-3298 *"sorry for the tone"*
*Yea, it's big brain time*
@@unlimited-3298 stfu
@@st0rmalbanadi597 shut the fuck up little kid
Went in PC World once as needed some new fans for my case in a hurry.
"Why would you need fans in a case?" said the confident young salesteam member. Slightly confused by such a question from a person who sold computers for a living, I replied "To cool the motherboard VRM's, chipset, the RAM, drives, to move heat aw..."
"Motherboards all have their own fans" he interrupted.
I never went back in PC World.
+Mirandorl lol
+Mirandorl you need a fan for your chipset? jesus man how old is your computer lol? and I wouldn't hardly say that your ram needs cooling LOL
+thecanadianwill I think he means to cool everything in the case, not just the CPU.
Andrew Roby yeah but that's sooooo minor now and days as most things are made out of materials such as Kevlar and other materials that disperse heat off your components. most average computers only need 1 or 2 fans and your good unless you are running a high end monster like me in witch I go watercooled
thecanadianwill Right, but he's not running a high end monster, so it's unnecessary. Even a $30 upgrade that isn't going to do anything then it's $30 wasted. I just hate seeing people throw money at unnecessary upgrades just for the sake of spending money & making their computer look cool.
My stock fan leaves my cpu at a cool 180 celsius at idle
oh lord
You should start cooking over that CPU. Lol
But good news you can probably cook bbq while gaming
this comment killed me. props to you sir
Hope you meant 18 X-X rip your pc
im still in the "It might leak so ill go with air cooler" mindset
Some companies will pay for all of your parts that broke if the AIO leaked, I know Corsair is one of them.
Angelo Rayes actually? So if I intentionally made the AIO leak Corsair would get all new parts for me?
Angelo Rayes I wouldn’t do that lol but I’m just saying
@@Impecable.. lol no, you have to send it to them first where they 'inspect' it! This is where it gets scary though, what if you didn't do it intentionally but they think you did! So I'd just stick with cpu fan coolers.
@@averageboater2892 I've had a corsair h80i v2 for the past 4 years it's been fine it's perfectly safe.
Kyle : "It's probably the aspect people look for most when looking for a CPU cooler and that is...."
Me : "Aesthetics"
Kyle : "Performance"
Me : "What"
Why would you care at all about aesthetics for computer components?
Adanu191 because art has been known to increase our happy mood and being satisfied with looks has been part of us humans since art ever emerged. It relieves stress and clutter from our brain.. bla bla bla.. go educate yourself fool. Haha
@@Adanu191 you got schooled son
@@bigsmoke1787 Nah, I simply agree to disagree, and didn't argue further
gestrobang132 try throwing all your garbage in your room and tell me if thats ok to live in, just mess your room up and live like that. Ive made my point and everything around us is enough proof for that. Have a nice day. Haha.
I hire a guy that constantly eats frozen mexican food and farts on my CPU to cool it down.
Wouldn't that warm it up?
Awesomesauce Network Thats why its still frozen.
BionicSammich You hired Chewy as well?
***** Yes. The frozen food tends to warm up as it passes through his body so it needs a bit of a boost on the other end just to make sure its cold enough. Its actually quite impressive. I've got no heatsink and it still manages to sit at around 45C playing Skyrim. He may be $9 an hour, but its worth it.
Awesomesauce Network Not if he's running on amd
My stock intel i7 6700k fan keeps my cpu plenty cool. At 1400 celcius+, it really melts the silicon components that way I know they're performing at maximum overdrive.
6700k doesn't come with a cooler.
And it's much cooler than older processors, because it uses less power.
ahhaha
+John Doe he meant the heat spreader lol
im fucking crying
I just put an ice cube on my CPU per 1hr gaming session
i put icyhot gel packs
And probably change your pc every 1hr gaming session because of the water over the components.
@@andreimiga8101 woooooosh
Damn u smart
@@jjrulez1596 that is not qn r/whoooosh
*To summarize*
Liquid coolers are typically better but require more maitnence and have a higher risk of damaging if they leak also the cost to set up is typically higher.
Fans are cheaper but even the strongest one is still slightly weaker than a mid teir liquid cooling rig. Easy to set up and replace by your average user.
Ethan Martinez wow, why aren’t you on top?
But but... Water cooling looks so good!
but your at high risk if overclocking with water
+Enderpro 13 Wait what? What do you mean with high risk?
+Enderpro 13 what?
+Tobias L. If the pump fails(which will happen at some point) the liquid does not move, and your cpu overheats and breaks quick. With an air cooler if the only thing that could fail is the fan and if the fan fails you'll still have time to save your data and turn of your pc without it overheating.
+R4MP4G3RXD Yeah this could happen over time. But actually i don't think this a problem. Everything that is mechanical will break sometime. You have to be aware of that when you buy something. But it will take a few years if you have a good product. So i'm fine with that. Also this will not kill the cpu. Cpus today won't die if the cooler does not work correctly. Even if you suddenly remove the cooler the cpu will clock itself down or just shut the pc off completly. So that is not really a big problem.
But for the rest of the time you can have a silent but still overclocked system which will improve your work and gaming experience quite a bit. So i wouldn't really consider this as a downside.
Don't your eyebrows hurt after these videos?
lol
😂😂😂
fuck i cant stop laughing 😂
lol
LOL i actually look back at the video to see hes eye brow haha lmfao
im a big FAN of air coolers...
okay ill just leave now
Gizio do you like liquid cooling?
Ethan Yang lmaoo love the pun
You just blew me away
Water coolers get me wet
*cocks gun* that won't be nececary
8:24 That moment when BitWit disses on your specific air cooler...
No way in hell do you own that cooler.
@@natebit7167 lol
@@stealthscorpion4735 dear lord man 2 years ago you needed an upgrade
@@natebit7167 fr
"...unless a console gamer sneezes on your heat sink"
lol
Nick Star I try not to sneeze on my own heatsink but anything can happen.
+Joseph Ford Yeah, I laughed WAY too hard at that joke......
+Nick Star Yeah, that sorta shit happens a lot.
great job and fantastic summary that bridges the laymen and still relates to the technical. Ill be following you out of here from now on.
Thanks Mark! Glad you found it helpful.
+Mark White I wanted to add some extra notes if possible. I also have water cooling for my CPU. The biggest downside and the most realistic is, that If you get a sudden shutdown, or power loss in your household, the CPU will and heat up like crazy since the heat won't be dissipated since the pump does not carry the heat into your radiator. Otherwise watercooling performs better then aircooling.
Regards,
Tass
+Tass Molnár
If you suffer a power loss in your house, the computer will just shut down.
I strongly recommend to buy a good UPS.
***** I'd get the 212 ver 2, simply because of how ridiculously big it is in comparison to the original.
+Tass Molnár wtf bro? just wtf?
I can’t wait to build my gaming pc this weekend
miguelitocuban good luck man
Good luck...and don't forget to put the thermal paste on the pins!
Unknown User i really hope he didn’t do that lol
how’d your build go
What are you putting together? I'm building a pretty beefy PC for the first time within the next few months and can't wait myself.
i vote for air cooling. reliable, quiet, decent performance.
Dimitris Avgenikos quiet????
Bryan Santana yes, be honest, how often are you fucking vigorously raging over a silent ass cpu cooler fan.
@@zohan174 😂😂😂😂😂
@@zohan174 I complain every day because my computer sounds like a jet engine
@@percyvalorant probably your psu
My father thinks you can download Graphic Cards.
*IM DONE*
I prefer downloading my ram
Spunky Chickens Im downloading 300T Ram currently. What about you?
Just a couple petabytes
I'm downloading 30T hard drive space.
+GermanKraut I just downoaded the new i7 skylake. It's awesome! ;D
We poppin' like AIO
All my bitches got real hair chilling with the top down
Screaming like AIO
This comment made me start crying at the dinner table. Thank you.
+Hybridlancer2000 This comment also made me start crying at the dinner table, for entirely different reasons.
+Ro MaYo Jr thanks, you can have my internet.
Awesomesauce Network Kyle, you should make this a shirt! AIO cooler design with a caption "We poppin' like AIO". Let me know what you think.
Ro MaYo Jr if not, I could definitely design one on cafe press
says air is better, 5 years later: okay so all my builds involve liquid this year
Top Liquid cooling disaster: Short circuiting via liquid.
Top Air cooling disaster: Fire
Water cooler blew my psu up
Top liquid cooling disaster: destroyed hardware and a fire.
Top air cooled disaster: broken fan
We can all be biased m8
@darok krauser I always thought water coolers give better performance than most, except the very best, air coolers. The main downside though is it's more expensive and a greater risk of danger
couldn't you have compred the temperature between water coolers and fans? would have been more useful
yeah thats what i came for
Another useless rant video everyone already knows.
which can change greatly depending on your setup...
Nebbou Hicham
You said "came" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Arnt liquid coolers pretty much air con Tho?
As someone who actually manages a bunch of PC's, I would say that air coolers are the way to go for almost every situation, save for someone who really enjoys overclocking and such (I liquid cool my home PC).
The Cooler Master 212 EVO does a great job, even out in the plant where it gets over a 100 degrees Fahrenheit (I add another fan for those rigs). I will accept the Intel stock fan for admin computers, but any workstation, or even basic i7 exec build gets a 212 EVO.
Consumer AIO's are great for guys who coddle their PC's, but if you want to set it and forget it, get a good air cooler. The Noctua 14S or Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 3 are wonderful. One can never go wrong with a Cooler Master 212 EVO.
I would also say that cases matter quite a bit. A good case does wonders, and all cases benefit from more fans. Throw a few Scythe Gentle Typhoons or Noctua NF-12's in your case and all temps will decline. Even stand-alone servers perform dramatically better if they can turbo all the time with a good case kitted out with all fans (rack-mounted machines are fine, but those garbage tower servers often have thermal throttling).
I would recommend after-market air coolers to all but the most committed enthusiasts, and if you are building a random computer for a relative, NEVER put a liquid cooler in there. NEVER.
is cryorig a good company? its too late because i already bought it on amazon and getting shipped. . . but is R1 ultimate a good cooler?
Yes, it is an outstanding cooler. Cryorig is a first-rate company. You made a good choice.
I use water - and I have never coddled my pc. Wasn't really anymore or less difficult to install as a beefy air cooler (less actually - working around a large cooler sux, IMO), and it is basically set it and forget it (was for me, anyway - AIO).
To each his own.
BINARYGOD I agree to each his own (I currently use an H80i gt, and at one time had a custom water loop), but many people are fine with something like a Cooler Master 212 Evo. Furthermore, if one is not overclocking, most small tower coolers are more than adequate.
Garry Perkins
yes, depending on location on earth, if overclocking past 4.5, then water - is my personal rule. Otherwise, not that big air, or hell, that abomination that comes with the cpu is ok (I mean, ok, it is not, but for an average joe or grandma...)
:-)
I get really scared when any form of liquid gets within 3 feet of my pc
I imagine the stress of installing a liquid pump is liken to that of disarming a bomb.
@@dragonnation building a whole system is like disarming a bomb, anything can go wrong at any given time...
@@dragonnation lol what I literally did it in 5 minutes yesterday
"A console pleb sneezes on your heat sink" xD I'm dying.
I only understood the word "Fan"
Wicked Googly lol
He meant he was a huge fan of Metallica.
Wicked Googly 😂😂😂😂 im so confused tf?
-070- That makes you a fucking dipshit for insulting people for no reason
-070- then go to school and learn engrish you turd
"Air Coolers vs Liquid Coolers"
Why don't you ask you X99 testbench for it's opinion? Oh wait....
Thx for the video kyle!
I loled
Ha ha true dat , no reference to the disaster in this video . But great upload .
theFrizzleFry too soon.
he got a shit cooler with that plastic tubing that reminds me of a straw.. Shoulda got a good one like a H100i or something with thick rubber or braided tubing..
theFrizzleFry You're welcome
I've used AIO for every build I've ever done.
Why?
Cardioid microphones in a home studio. AIO is FAR more quiet than any air cooler I've heard.
As to everyone worried about leaks: it is so bloody rare as to be a non-issue. Plus nine of ten use nonconductive liquids. So yeah.
Thinking of doing a hard line custom loop on this next build, but may hold off.
Makes sense. I recommend using air coolers and just investing into something else. Everyone has different uses
I know I'd be the 1 out of 10 people so I think I'll go for air fan.
Diego2112Gaming have you tried Noctua?
It’s 2020, my brain is probably half dead, but it’s nice to have videos like this. Thanks!
I love hearing my pc. I like knowing that I'm working my creation hard.
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Lmao your kids lives are going to be horrible
I cant wit this brah
lmaooo
Your pc is way to acoustic.
I know that's not how it's said.
at 0:46 there's a pencil holding up the GPU xD
Omg lol
+White Shadoow yes
Nice spot!
I just changed from a cpu fan to a 240mm radiator/liquid cooler and it's so much better. It's taken about 10°c of my temps.
What app do you use to check the temp?
@@louiecornago6433 hello I use a free bit of software called core temp. It monitors your CPU/processor. It also monitors other things. I tried a few others but found this to be simple and easy. There might be better ones out there though.
Will try that out. Switch from a stock Ryzen 5 3400g cooler to an AIO cooler soon 😁 Thank you so much!
“Personally i feel air coolers are better” *has an ad for a liquid cooler at the beginning
Liquid cooling scares me,I've read countless reviews about the cheap ones(which are the ones i can afford) saying they fail and fry up the cpu.
just buy an cooler master 212 evo. It keeps my i5 6600k cool (max 70°c) even when overclocking to 4.5-4.7ghz
MrSuvvri I would but it doesn't fit in the thermaltake v1 😞 How loud is it by the way?
gamwpanagia
untill 1000 rpm its unhearable for me. After that you basically just hear the swoooosh of the air comming through it but no other noises than that.
I know that problem haha. When i was builiding my rig i took this cooler and some other case and i had the luck that the site i was buying the stuff told me that my case is too smal for my cooler.
I have fractal design define s case now and im happy with it. I have a nice window there and the airflow is good too since all the HDD/SSD are behind the motherboard where all the cables are :)
MrSuvvri That's a lovely case bro,classy af.
I haven't heard nor read anything bad about the 212.
Oh well,might as well as go for the v21 case and get the damn 212 lol.
gamwpanagia
yeah i would really recommend this case and this cooler. Both are awesome for the price!
I just cannot afford the risk of liquid coolers... just can't.. I put my all into my PC and that is why I can not even risk a 3% chance of a leak happening..
Solocid what is your preferred choice of air cooler, or what air cooler do u use for your build?
master Evo is a beast hyperx evo etc.. however for the start I might stick with Intel Stock I got laying around afterwards near end year I'll be getting the H60 Corsair Hydro Liquid Cooler, simply for the looks tbh, air coolers are way too big and cover way too much space for my taste but I am kinda scared of leaks from the liquid ones :'(
I use the same cooling that worldwide industry leading data centers use. Air conditioning.
Solocid AIO leaks are a lot more rare these days. Not to mention, Corsair, NZXT and probably all reputable companies that sell them offer full hardware replacement if the unit leaks.
Well I buy them from a third party not to mention amazon etc don't ship almost anything here.. even though the pieces are new I doubt the guy will give me warranty. That is why I fear it so much even though it looks epic
Aesthetics of NZXT Kraken > any air cooler don’t @ me
Have you seen dark rock pro 4?
RustyRat I SAID DONT @ ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Filip Ulrich DONT @ ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@@Mistyfgdf reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Kraken x61 ftw
2:12
*Glances from image onscreen to same exact case sitting next to desk*
Huh. That's worth a comment.
Happened to me at 8:16
i liked that case, can someone tell the model and brand?
AIO cooler, Been using my Corsair H80 for 5 years, no leak, no degrade on performance. Love it.
+koushinproductions Awesome!
***** Pretty sure I haven't asked for one? How bout you?
Did you overclock too?
OpTic ChoKeSHoT Yes, I was using the 2600 and OC it from 3.3 to 4, fans are always on the highest profile. Maybe I'm just lucky, but haven't had any problems with corsair products. I'm using the h100i now on my other skylake rig it's OC to 4.5 right now but ima try for 4.7, lets see how many years it lasts.
+koushinproductions ooh nice :)
I have 2 noctua 3000 industrial fans and at max speed, it sounds like a drone taking off...
Climax I like you
Senpai yikes
Sweet 3000 RPM ... ebm Papst = eu.mouser.com/datasheet/2/120/5300TD-934237.pdf
I have 4 Noctua industrial 3000 RPM fans with a Noctua NH-D15 and it sounds like PERFORMANCE.
I was thinking of getting a liquid cooler just because it can look so sick, but now I'm realizing that for the pc I want to build, I would save both money and risk in just buying the air cooler.
Such a great video, keep it up!
I miss vids like this. To the point and without a bs clickbait thumbnail/title. I guess this is just how UA-cam algorithms work now, so I can't actually see it like Kyle might. Either way, I still watch the vids today and appreciate the content.
I use my freezer as a custom cooler.
Wet Works But I don't want to.
Demonmutantninjazombie Don't worry, nothing terrible or bad will happen. I kill myself twice a day.
Wet Works TIL I can kill myself twice a day everyday.
Demonmutantninjazombie Just do it right it now, try it it's worth it. Legends never die, they respawn.
Linus debunked its effectiveness in doing such a thing.
I wish I saw this before getting the Corsair H100i. No idea how to set this thing up.
dont listen to that evaporating shit. Only happens to low end watercoolers. An AIO isnt like a water loop. No managing, the water is in already, and also, its sexy. How to install: Put your fans on the radiator in a pull, push, or buy 2 extra fans for push/pull (Recommend pull, best for keeping dust out) install that shit to your top, front, rear, wherever youre able to fit two 120mm fans (i belive h100i is 240mm), obviously actually install it, and youre good to go
Skarokin
This actually really helped me man, thank you. I've got a NZXT Phantom 410, so had to put the radiator above the inner frame, but otherwise everything looks good.
+Graenolf no problem :)
So the H100i really is a good cooler? I've been looking at it for my next PC.
+Hans Yolo Yea, it is
I don't care how old this vid is I love your content
I'm cooling my 1920x threadripper with a noctuna aircooler and 2 fans. It look's great, is quiet, it keeps the cpu under 55 c° under heavy load and the best part is it has now risk of getting a leak.
Don't ever buy Zalman liquid coolers. I let my Dark Souls on when I went to the next room and suddenly, when I came, I saw it leaking. That son of a btch destroyed my gpu.
SteveP521 LMFAOOO
LMAOOOO
Comedy.
I bet you took 14 years to come back no seriously dad just come back please
When you said that comment I saw a zalman air cooler on the video coincidence?
I might go for air cooling just so i dont cry when my computer has wet itself and died
Connor Callon That rarely ever happens nowadays.
And, after, I get a full replacement of my system back. Oh wait, let's rewind: I go for liquid cooling and it doesn't leak.
SyncF keep telling yourself that liquid peasant
Just st file a replacement from the company. Many do that
@@iflex7640 nah it does tho just be careful with it and ur good to go i would rather have a beautiful pc rather than some ugly ass pc with just a LITTLE more performance bro with that rgb u can make a disco party with that shit
"Get on my level, Bro." BWAAAhahahaha! I may actually know that guy! Informative, hilarious, extremely well done. Thank you. But now I want that awesome custom water rig!! Any videos on that?
I got a be quiet dark pro 4 and am very happy. 80 bucks and massive heat displacement and it looks mean in my build. I couldn’t ask for anything more really
For me major problem of air coolers it is dust! I hate to clean my computer when it is full of dust !
+Nickolas Berdzenishvili yeah? how so water cooling still leads to dust in the system my Georgian friend. it still uses the circulation of air to create an equal temperature with the ambient air. air is moving in and out of the case. dust will follow this is why you use dust filterers.
that's not true bro. I have my radiator and fans outside my house. Actually under my floor boards. No dust
Do you need to change the water every few months?
only when using custom loops
+Lauritz Mussmann don't listen to him, all in ones don't evaporate often or change that make you need to change the fluids
My conclusion: don't put water in your computer. Not worth to risk leakage,
You know, liquid cooling isn't pouring a glass of water of the CPU, right?
Cyortonic Yes, but what if it leaks. mentioned. It could cause overvoltage which could kill other parts of the PC. It is an additional risk which you doesn't have with air cooling.
Ferenc Nagy Just don't do weird things like kink the tubing or poke holes in the radiator and it won't leak.
I don't think there's a super significant risk with a AIO water cooler. I haven't been very gentle with mine (trying to fit it in a micro-ATX case) and so far no problems. That custom built water cooling on the other hand....
Leaking in AIO coolers are so unlikely, Corsair promises to replace ANY component damaged by a leak in addition to replacing your cooler.
With how things have changed since 2015 - this video is probably worth a revisit.
In my opinion the bequiet cooler is probably the best-looking air coolers ever
As a car guy, the Cooler Master V8 GTS is the only option for me.
+McLidl As a car guy my BeCool four row was the only option for me.
as a car guy, the new 2016 Audi R8 is the only option for me
+thetigerschannel as a car guy, my 98 accord IS the only option for me.
+Doge Gaming as a car guy the s6 edge is the only type from me
kawder safatli as a car guy, my s3 is then only option for me
9:17 what's the name of that cooler? IT'S BADASS!!!
dark rock Pro 3
thekYnMencey thanks!
its the dark rock 3 not the dark rock pro 3 ( you can look up the difference on google)
ChainArts \\ Motion thanks man
Really appreciate this video. I was going to go for liquid cooled for my second build, but after watching this I realize air cooled is the way to go. many thanks.
Good man.
I have COOLER MASTER AIRCOOLER consisting two fans parallel to each other..and they are just doing fine even after TWO YEARS!!
Dunno, glowing tubes look cool, but i cant get over the idea of liquid inside my computer... thats why I got the V8 :)
+Nerevar22g The liquid used in AIO's should be non-conductive. Even if it's distilled water, it's still non-conductive. There are desktop computers out there that are submerged in liquid to cool everything, with no special work done to any part of the computer, and they work by using a non-conductive liquid.
KrKrypton
thats sounds pretty awesome and expensive
+KrKrypton fish tank, not fishtail, autocorrect.
My mom thought she could download different gpu's 😂😂
+Chance Rogers i think she mean the driver software
+ilham Defra No, she though she could just download a graphics card, she didn't know it was a physical thing
lel
+Chance Rogers I used to think you could download ram lmao
+Noise Experiments yea i'ma just go download a I7 6700k unlocked
It bugs me when people say AIO fan curve based on CPU temperature. With the closed loop, the fans can only control / maintain liquid temperature. That temperature changes gradually as opposed to CPU temp which is faster temp changes and more dynamic. Set the fan curve to adapt to the liquid heat rising to keep overall cooling effect under control. When first setting up, monitor liquid temperatures at idle based on ambient temperature. Set the curve based on liquid temperature performance and noise level preferences. CPU temperature should not dictate fan curve on the AIO.
I watched a vid I think by linus tech tips where they compared 3 noctua fans and 3 AIO's all different sizes (all 6 coolers top of the line) and the best one was the largest noctua fan, followed by the medium AIO's, so their is that to consider.
Just to add one thing, AIO coolers cannot evaporate. Even if they try to, it would condensate inside the tubes and then go back into the loop.
"a console gamer sneezes on your heatsink" XD
i started out with a ThermalTake 2.0... On my next System i went with a ThermalTake 3.0.. it's been running for the past 3 years non-stop with no problems.
I think air cooling is better especially if you have space to take the hot air out of the case.
Good air management is crucialz
Great video Kyle! I always love your videos, as they do a great job of explaining things while also keeping the feel very "relaxed".
Keep up the good work!
Ty donny!
Awesomesauce Network kepp it up
Unless you're aiming for the "overclocking champion of the world" there is no need for liquid cooling. Unless you just have to have it. Aircooled systems on a moderate overclock will always be more quiet.
So an air cooler like the NH D15 will be sufficient on a "moderate OC" 9980XE, good to know :')
If you wanna get record ocs you gotta use liquid nitrogen
My CPU fan sounds like a hair dryer at full speed...
Not true. My MOBO is to small for an air cooler so I gotta buy a liquid cooler
@@procyon826 That sounds like a YOU problem.
So I build a full out custom liquid cooling rig. One thing you didn't mention is the heat that is dumped onto your video card, memory and mother board from the air cooler. A water cooled system dumps this heat outside the case keeping all your other components cooler at the same time. This is a big factor...
You have said so much that I don't even know whether you missed or actually mentioned the important point: most of the air coolers are very often interfere with installation of the RAM modules. And if the RAM modules are coming with the heat sinks it's almost impossible to use these RAM modules. While liquid coolers almost never have this particular problem.
Personnaly i dont overclock my cpu so air cooling is perfectly fine for me
Plus i love the feeling of knowing nothing might leak over my parts
Also, if an Aircooler fan breaks, the cooling tower itself still works and provides passive cooling, just without the added airflow. If a watercooler pump breaks, the entire system doesn´t work anymore.
Yea honestly that should be everyone's first question - Do you overclock?
didn't he conclude that you can over clock with both, especially when the best liquid beats the best air cooler by a small margin o____0
Ye ik but for reliability purpose I don't over lock so I don't use a liquid cooler
8:28 I had that Zalman on my first build lol
RGB air coolers are badass with the right complimenting parts.
Neon / brightly colored liquid cooling liquid with a 9th gen i9, RTX 2080 ti, and $3,000 in RGB lights is badass
D no its stupid
how about room temperature? I lived in the tropic country and my room doesn't have any cooler like air conditioner and its pretty hot when summer day... which one the best option for my PC? air cooler or liquid cooler?
So no overclocking = no after-market cooling required?
helenHTID Thank you for the information! A quieter pc would definitely help in my case.
Would the i7 4790 operate at similar temperatures to the "K"?
helenHTID Alright. A 212 evo should cover it lol
helenHTID True, although I'm already pretty tightly below my $1200 budget.
Yikak4 Yes, if you don't OC then you may skip purchasing after market coolers. BUT, if you want for better temperature and quiet performance you may check NOCTUA.
Yikak4 well. id say wait till your stock heatsink starts to fail, then spend some 30-40$ on a good aftermarket. intel stock heatsink that comes with the cpu is quite trashy imo. the plastic parts that bolt into your mobo have some worst design.
Of course Jay was there for "The elite pro water coolers"
Can he be a news presenter? Like dude, you're great at presenting.
Hey mom I want air cpu cooler! Mom: just use the ceiling fan
I don't care about the noise. I love the jet engine sound. This isn't a crappy console. lmao
if you're not over clocking your pc might be cooler than that single fan in the Xbox one lol run noctu fans in full ape shit mode oh shit my computer is trying to fly lol
thank you for this video... I am even more confused now !!!
I had a Hyper 212 Evo on my old PC. First, it came with the wrong standoffs. Cooler Master sent me a new kit and I finally got it installed but what a PITA. I have to say it worked well. When I built my new PC I installed a Corsair Hydro Series liquid CPU cooler. It took seconds to install and my i7 4790 @ 4.40 GHz is running at 55°C tops (usually around 50°C) at 75°F~80°F ambient room temperature.
Aaah, awesomesauce, the old days
I will never put liquid cooling in any computer. Ive seen it destroy too many computers
"I've seen it destroy so many PCs"
Like 3?
"I've seen it destroy so many PCs"
Like 3?
"I've seen it destroy so many PCs"
Like 3?
A Christian Gamer no. alot more
EpicManTD Probably misused products.
I bough Corsair water cooler and it serves me only for 2years so I switch back heatsink cooler, and my choice this time is Noctua D15 which is a good buy and I can used for future update like x99 :)
Do you even English bro?
atleast we understand what he wanted to say and that's the only thing that matters
+SURAJ DEWANGAN yep
So you switched back 2 air
My Noctua air cooler is so damn quiet.
These videos from Kyle are so good. No BS.
Got clarity from the comments way before finishing this video thanks. Air all the way.
hands down best performance cooler you will ever find
custom water loop with a peltier cooler built into the resivoir
the colder the coolant is = the cooler your CPU runs
the air cooling equivalent is to pipe the output from an air conditioner into your case
Great way to soak your components in condensation, unless you closely monitor the ambient dewpoint, and have your peltier modulate to keep the coolant just above that temp.
Or submerge the whole unit in mineral oil so you can run your coolant near freezing without a condensation issue.
Delid, get a waterblock directly on the die, run it though a waterchiller running at just above ambient air temp
I went from H100 to Dark Rock 3 best decision I ever made only 2 degrees hotter on my i7 7700K
Telekine5i5 hows it been? I want to get a h100i but im scared of leaks.
mitchell leaks almost never ever happen. The chance of a leak is so rare
mitchell I’ve had an h100i for 4 years with no problems
I bet you at full load, when you're running a game on max at 60 FPS that fan whines like a bitch. An h100 won't whine.
Sarkazym is correct, it's extremely rare. And even more rare when you go with a brand like Corsair. Corsair is just plain reliable. I've had three different Corsair liquid coolers since 2012 and they've all worked perfect with zero issues.
The h80i v2 keeps my i5-6600k running at 27 degrees Celsius when idling. 62 Celsius under full load on Prime 95. I'm also using sub-standard thermal paste at the moment too. With top-notch paste my idle temps would easily be 25 Celsius and max temp under load would probably drop under 60 Celsius.
I've had the same AIO in my rig for 6 years. No problems and my temps never go above 40. Yes if it were to leak it could take your whole system out. Its mounted on the CPU above my GPU and Power Supply. A shorted power supply could fry everything. That said I've been pretty rough to it when changing out my thermal paste from time to time and still runs like a charm with no leaks. I'm in the market to buy another one just because its 6 years old and I'm not pushing my luck lol
Put a 2-12 Evo on my first rig. It runs well, doesn't look bad, nothing is on fire, it can't leak and it cost like 40 bucks to keep my 200 dollar processor intact. AIOs seem a little pointless to me, especially as my current upgrade path is to get a better graphics card than a hand me down 970
What if you live in Alaska?The guide wasnt clear
Air cooler? NH-D15 beats dual AIO coolers on almost every aspect.
FoodOnCrack I second that, my NH-D15 keeps my overclocked i7-5820k quite cool and it's super quiet.
yodabolt What speed?
4.3GHz with just using the automatic overclocking in Asus X99 BIOS. Haven't had time to tinker with it yet.
yodabolt can you guys tell me what case you have? I'm trying to decide between the NH-D14 and 15 because the 14 is slightly smaller. I just want to know if i'll be able to also use my side case fan on my HAF 922 case...
You can move it with the cooler instaled. According to noctua there was never a motherboard damaged by one of their coolers. I think that its more dangerous to move liquid coolers and powering on your pc after a tube got loose and liquid spills all over your gpu.
*stock coolers are not good for overclocking
**cough** wraith max **cough**
i thought you said stonk coolers
Wait that's the stock cooler? I havent bought an AMD processor yet but I thought it came with something smaller like the spire
@@cjthomp2005 wraith max is the aftermarket one. You're talking about the Wraith Prism, which is bundled with the more high end processors
AMD does make really nice stock coolers... I would still buy an aftermarket one just incase the stock one fails on me
Some Dank Boi is it really a good one?
Ive been told high temps reduce the longevity of your components. Makes sense. The question I have is "how much?" For example, if I liquid cool a CPU can I assume I am keeping it cool enough to keep its designed performance (all things left equal) for the extent of its designed life? I know there is no definitive answer to this, but I am just trying to understand the idea of component longevity and understand enough to make educated decisions on how to make my build and how long I can expect it to work well.
I had Corsair H100i and had nothing but problems, I'm going with Noctua NH-D15 this time.
+Zlobni Kotlet I have an NH-D14 myself... great choice
+Advection357 i went with h110i gt..
Zlobni Kotlet Aw... why? :P You just had to be one of the cool watercooler kids didn't you
+Advection357 because its better its couple degrees cooler and it doesnt use so much space like that big air coolers :p
Zlobni Kotlet The NH-D14 outperforms most AIO watercoolers in terms of noise vs cooling performance.. http :// www .tomshardware.com/reviews/nepton-280l-tundra-td02-water3.0-pro-reserator3-max,3607-12.html
Just came across this video, and while entertaining, I find a huge huge problem with it.
Let me explain. I design PCBs for a living. All our designs are for industry, and naturally, include processors, memory sticks, SOACs and such...
Processors are soldered in our Reflow Ovens, where, for Lead-Free processes, the temperature reaches 220 degrees Celsius just to MELT solder, and goes up to 297 degrees to obtain optimum flow....
Whether a processor is at 70 degrees or 50 degrees is a moot point. It simply won't matter. These chips were born in a fiery hell.
Java Monsoon well this answers it lol.
It won't matter... the vatiation between air and water cooling is too little (relatively) to make a difference.
they might be born in a fiery hell. but they are NOT running current while being soldered. any cpu with electricity flowing through them will short circuit and die anywhere near those soldering temps.
the difference between 70 degrees and 50 is going to simply be overclock headroom. the cooler the cpu is the better the overclock, and more of a temp buffer. and a cpu operating at 80 C for most of its life will likely have a shorter lifespan. so the sweet spot is a nice low (ish) temp with a decent overclock, and room for higher clock speeds, when more performance is desired.
Yeah but I don't want my room to become a fiery hell because my hardware has turned into a space heater.
well, in the material/physics point of view yes they can survive that, but processors were built to save itself from melting when it reaches 95c, either by shutting down via blue screen, or deliberately slowing down to 10%. and from what I know, most metals restrict electric conductivity at extreme temperatures. as much as the pcb lithography is getting smaller and smaller with the goal to produce less heat and consume less power, heat will always be the problem to good performance. shaping metal in a short time will definitely require a lot of heat. but cpus at 90c for at least 8 straight hours a week for 3-5 years?(I know that's like worst case scenario, but imagine server use) that's a different story...
Only one answer, liquid cooling only!! No matter if you use an AiO solution or a custom loop, nothing beats liquid cooling period! Great videos man...I just subscribed!
How are you going to hate on the Zalman CPNS-9500? It was great for its time: think AMD939 socket.