Our God indeed is a covenant keeping God. Has he said a thing and not perform it? I watch how things unfold in my life, from penury to $182,500 every month and I can only praise him and trust him more. Hallelujah🙌🏻❤️🇺🇸
After I raised up to 825k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my 10yrs old son's brain surgery (Oscar). Glory to God.shalom.
I've always wanted to be involved for a long time but the volatility in the price has been very confusing to me. Although I have watched a lot of UA-cam videos about it but I still find it hard to understand.
I'm a new Christian in America. I am an Anglican, but and being drawn to the Orthadox Church. This Sunday i plan on attending my first liturgy at the eastern church (after Eucharist at my Episcopal Church). My church is delightful. I just feel like i might be missing out on something. We'll see how it goes. God be with you
Thanks for the commentary. Well worth the listen and inward digestion so that I can examine my own opinions for unfair bias, etc. I’m sure there will be many who will hold fast to their prejudices (whether developed through personal experience or purely vicariously or a mix of both) and be very critical, while there will be others who love the information and insights you’ve given.
Thanks for the response starting at 19:39 about justification. I appreciated the idea of justification by faith being that God pulls forward the verdict in a sense. I hold to the idea of justification by faith that is fully realized when we believe, apart from any subsequent works, but at the same time we can see that the fruit of that faith in our lives clearly has a place in where we stand on the last day. I see that as being necessary evidence of our faith, and I think we have a role in seeing that fruit produced as we "work out" the salvation that God has already worked in us. But trying to understand this clearly is a challenge. And of course living those things out is the most important.
One must bear in mind, when considering whether one can attend a Catholic church whilst keeping mental 'asterix's', is that according to the Catholic church, for you to be a fully fledged member you cannot have any asterixs. You have to agree to everything they teach and all their dogmas. And so personally that would eventually become a big issue for me, if not straight away. If logistics are an issue, plenty of Protestant church's have Sunday night services.
I know many Catholics who have reservations about some official beliefs. It is a matter of priorities, like the Real Presence of OLJC in the Eucharist and of the unity that is at the heart of the Gospel.
@@InspironGantry The current Catechism of the CC says that there are several categories of people who are eligible for salvation. The first one is Christians, not specifically Catholics or any other group.
@ Sure, but the canons of Trent and Vatican 1 condemn all Protestants to hell, and unlike the Catechism, are held to be infallible. Don't get me wrong, I like the post V2 changes, it's just that you can't have them and infallible canons, they really do contradict. If you read the canons of Vatican I, or Trent, or Nicea II, it's abundantly clear that anyone who does not hold to dogma or is outside the church, cannot be saved. It says it explicitly in Vatican I.
Interesting interview. I will share with my Anglicans and Methodists friends. So much anti catholicism among methodists, and here we have the biggest authority in Anglicanism, saying that there is no problem in adopting different traditions.
A retired bishop is not "the biggest authority in Anglicanism", which simply does not have a "biggest authority" like the RC Pope or the Patriarch the Eastern Orthodox Churches have.
Much as I love what NT Wright has to say it doesn't match my experience - I had an evangelical background while my wife was a lapsed Catholic. We ended up in a fairly conservative Anglican church and our children were baptised there. So far so good - but we had a change of bishop and the new bishop was one of the most "liberal" in the Anglican Communion and we were told we had to accept same sex unions in our local church - so left. No question Holy Communion at Westminster Abbey in June 2016 was one of the high points of my Christian experience but I have definitely been struggling since her passing in March 2022. My Christian experience can't be solely UA-cam based - and much as I honor my very Catholic mother-in-law I dare not pray for my wife - that is forbidden - though there is a place in the woods near my home I go to give thanks for her and to pray for my children. I know my mother in law would love me to become a Catholic but there are specific elements in Catholicism that can't be embraced. I do pray for my inlaws but that's not based on Rome, Canterbury or anyone else but Christ alone. As MIke says, good works are not the cause of one's salvation but the living proof of it.
@marksmale827 homie's primary objection was based on what the congregation's particular position was on other people's sexuality and identity expression. I find that baffling that people make that a primary issue to object. "I can't join this congregation because they don't actively intimidate and ostracize gay people and gender fluid people," seems like a weird line in the sand to me.
Paul evidently makes a relational, not definitional contrast between faith and works; faith is an ethical complex, a repentance that is channelled into a reliance on the Christ's Christhood; faith is a work that requires an external accomplishment that a person can put their faith in. (Will listen to the video as well as just responding to the titles).
I don't understand why most Protestants do not accept John 6 verses 51 to 68, while saying they believe in scripture more than Catholics do. Can you enlighten me?
We're justified by grace but you have to cooperate with that grace, follow where grace leads you, it's not a passive salvation. And as you follow God's call you are justified.
The covenant in his blood brings the assurance of salvation here and now. "There is now therefore no condemnation..." (Romans 8:1) The Spirit thus integrates our being in Christ: thoughts, words, and deeds. It is our task to listen to His voice and follow.
Well stated! Last night I spent 2 hours exchanging messages with Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, and Protestants on this very subject. After reading comments on a Protestant channel with the vast majority of subscribers being Catholic and Orthodox, I was deeply disturbed by the number of cruel texts…frequently anathematizing Protestants by Catholics! I truly believe it grieves God, and discourages others from considering Christianity, when they witness us condemning one another! For we will be judged or condemned by others, based on our thoughts, deeds, and words! But, most importantly, we will have to answer to the Lord one day, and I never wish Him to ask why my actions or tongue discouraged nonbelievers from seeking salvation, nor caused a division between our brothers and sisters in the global church! For if we wish to be forgiven, we must forgive. We are to follow Christ’s example in how we conduct ourselves…treating both those we love and our enemies in an honourable and respectable manner, as the Lord commanded us to do: Love our our neighbours and our enemies; doing onto others as we wish them to do to us; we are commanded to love one another as Christ loves the Church. Recently, many podcasters have been commenting on Wesley Huff’s calm and gracious demeanor towards others. Personally, I bewildered by such claims, as I have grown up in Canada and that’s how the vast majority of us treat one another. Secondly, being raised in a Christian home, I always took it for granted that Scripture states we must show others respect and kindness - regardless of how someone behaves towards us. Thank you for mentioning Romans 8:1, as we all need reminders from time to time! Perhaps this Scriptural reference will encourage the greater “Body of Christ” make a greater effort in stilling our tongue, guarding our actions, join together in serving God and humanity, be a better witness so others will seek Truth and Salvation in our Messiah. Many Blessings!❤xx🇨🇦xx❤
It seems to me that Romans 1 & 2 are where Paul is "building a case" for why we need the gift of God's grace to justify us. This argument culminates in Romans 3:10-20. Without God's grace, we all would be judged according to our works, and we all would be judged unrighteous. But through faith in Christ, God counts righteousness _apart from works_ to the believer (Rom. 3:21-5:19). Thus it is erroneous to pick Romans 2 out of context as a reason why _believers_ will be judged according to our works; Romans 2 applies to _the unregenerate._ NT's reasoning clouds the Gospel message of salvation by grace through faith and not through works, a message which is make clear in John 3:14-18; John 6:28-47; Mark 16:16; Romans 10:9-13; Galatians 3:1-14; and Ephesians 2:8-10. Although we are called by God to fulfill the works which He foreordained for us to walk in, those works are not our own; they are the good fruit borne by the indwelling Holy Spirit as He guides and enables us to love & obey unselfishly. (This, BTW, stands in strong contrast to the Roman Catholic doctrine that, through these works, one can merit for himself the graces he needs for eternal life.)
There is this idea that evangelicalism in practice absolves us from the need to do good works. What a great idea! One accepts Christ as "personal Saviour and Lord" and we are automatically saved, regardless of anything we do - or don't do - in the rest of our lives. We are free to do exactly as we please, provided that we don't commit gross sins like theft and murder. Why bother to take that person whose car has run out of petrol to the nearest garage and back with a can of fuel? We're saved regardless. And for the "unsaved" who have not accepted Christ as "personal Saviour and Lord", any good works they may do in their lives have no salvific value and are apparently worthless in the sight of almighty God.
I have been an evangelical Christian for 53 years converting to The Lord Jesus Christ when I was 20 from a totally non religious home and have fellowshipped in many of the streams of evangelicalism and yes, met a few here and there who didn’t believe the way they lived their lives BUT the large majority, like myself, seek to truly live out the teachings of The Lord Jesus through The Holy Spirit and Gods Word.
I love N.T. Wright. His work on justification is, ultimately, what led me to become Catholic (though it took ~15 years). But I'm pretty surprised that one of the options he recommends here is "get baptized outside of the Catholic Church and see if your wife's parish will let you receive the eucharist anyway". I'm sure he's right that plenty of Catholic priests would quietly say, "yes, you can receive". But surely there's something dishonest about knowing that the Church thinks you can't and exploiting the opinions of an individual priest to defy it? I attended non-denom/Baptist churches, and Catholic masses, for 16 years, taking communion at the former - right up until I decided I had to be received into the Catholic Church. At which point, I went without any communion as I spent several months in an OCIA class before being confirmed last Easter. Surely that's the right way to do things. And if you can't give the assent of faith (even if it's, on some issues, "I don't understand how this is but I trust") to what a Church believes you should give the assent of faith to, you should remain as much on the outside as the Church requires. Which, really, just extends to the sacramental life. A Protestant husband of a Catholic wife can in good conscience participate in every aspect of Catholic life except for the sacramental. And that's what my advice would be- if you can't accept the faith, receive a trinitarian baptism from a Protestant church, attend mass with your family (and, if they're up for it, have them attend a Protestant church with you) and keep learning.
Scripture says Christ’s sacrifice was once. Catholics say it continues in the mass. Hebrews says that recrucifying Christ is apostasy and such people cannot be renewed again to repentance. They are like chaff that is for only to be burned. No Bible/believing Christian could participate in the mass in good conscience.
My experience in rural communities in Baptist, Catholic and Episcopal spaces is that the Catholic faith weaponizes the sacraments to control people, whereas Protestants are less inclined to “refuse, withhold or prevent” based on ritual confession of sins to a priest. The major doctrine that grounds me in the Protestant faith is the priesthood of all believers, confessing sins to each other not to a professional priest but to the brother I have sinned against, as the preparation for receiving the Eucharist. From a very early age I have included Catholics and all trinitarians in my family of faith and never excluded any trinitarian, and I would appreciate the same courtesy to be extended by Catholics to other trinitarians who try to walk with the Holy Spirit to be conformed to the image of Christ - in thanksgiving and love and mercy and kindness Galatians 5 people - love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness, kindness, meekness, faithfulness and self-control when the Spirit guides our steps.
@@SibleySteve Catholics are not weaponizing Sacraments. 1) The Theology underlying the Sacraments is different from the Catholic to protestant view, the Holy Eucharist is the "Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ" Truly Substantially present (does not mean literally eating Christ ear) but truly Substantially present (Really present) and 2) The Eucharist represents a common celebration of not only Eucharistic faith, but a communion that is fully operational and for Catholics, regardless of who the Pope is, Saintly Pope, sinful Pope, brilliant Pope, not so smart Pope, etc, in a parish under a Diocesan Bishop in full communion with the Bishop of Rome. Hope this helps, Cheers.
It depends. If you really believe that the RCC should not disallow non-Catholic Christians from receiving the eucharist, then you could make an argument that breaking this rule is following God's Law above man's. Of course, that hinges on your view of the issue, but it is certainly worth noting that Jesus also at times broke religious conventions.
Isn’t this idea of finding a church that aligns with your own (private) interpretation of scripture a recipe for ecclesiastical chaos? No wonder Protestantism has become this extraordinary mishmash of churches and sects. And if one cannot find a church that aligns sufficiently with one’s own interpretation of scripture, what is one to do? What many people today are doing is being what an Anglican cathedral dean described as The Church of One, God, the Bible and me, a complete parody of the NT and the Church Fathers..
Don't join Rome. The gospel there is confused at best and absent at worst. Yes, Protestantism has problems, no the gospel is not always present or well taught in Protestant churches, but there are plenty of any Protestant flavour where the gospel is uncompromisingly taught. Some people make too much of Galatians warning about other gospels; Wright and co make far too little.
NT describes the reality of the Roman Catholic world: most Catholics are not "good Catholics" who believe all of the RC dogmas, even though the RCC requires belief in the dogmas as a salvific matter. As a former cradle Catholic, I do not believe several of their dogmas and so I could never in good conscience return to the Roman church. My greatest disagreement is with their dogma of Transubstantiation, which leads the Catholic Church to teach their laity to worship the Eucharist; it seems heinous and contrary to Exodus 20:4-5 to direct actual worship toward the man-made ("graven") image of a bread wafer as Almighty God.
@@pdyt2009 The Catholic Church does not teach one to worship "God's presence signified by the presence of the host." The Catholic Church teaches their laity to worship the Eucharist itself, and the whole of the Eucharist inescapably is part substance and part accidents in RC theology. The accidents are not separated or separable from the substance; they are one. CCC 1378: “Worship of the Eucharist...The Catholic Church...offers to the sacrament of the Eucharist the cult of adoration...” Funny how the official Catholic doctrine works against your slippery reasoning, eh?
@@InspironGantry You cannot deny or separate the man-made image of bread from your Eucharist. The inescapable existence of that graven image subjects you to the stricture of Exodus 20:4-5.
@ I'm not Catholic. I oppose the doctrine of transubstantiation. The person I responded to was defending the Catholic position by claiming it is less than it is.
@earlychristianhistorywithm8684 I'm just busting your chops. Whoever edits your videos can tell you how much you were talking vs. one of the leading theological experts and generational minds in the world.
I love Tom Wright, but his reductionism drives me nuts! The Elijah syndrome is just annoying! I wish Tom Wright would more charitable toward his own heritage, which has always affirmed the necessity of sanctification, as part of one's union with Christ.
You can say that all religions are “man made”, it’s the dogma and practice that reveals what we believe. The Trinity is neither a dogma nor a religion. However, Christ, the Apostles, and Church Fathers did follow doctrine layed out by the Lord in Scripture, and through our Messiah’s example while on this earth. Jesus and the Apostles also went to the Temple, which isn’t something we currently practice…partly due to the destruction of the Temple in 70AD, as well, Gentiles and the Jewish Remnant is spread throughout the world, which is why Christ said, “Where 2 or more are gathered in my name, there I am also”. Finally, we constructed churches, so we can gather and worship God together, just as the disciples did 2 Millenia ago. Furthermore, we should be worshiping, praying, and fasting regularly - which sometimes means Sunday to Saturday, Lent, Feast days and Fasting periods. Many Blesdings!❤xx
Much appreciated Tom Wright's answer to the first question. But there is an aspect of his answer the second question which I found very concerning, and could create real pastoral problems for sensitive souls. To talk about Romans 2 as if the root matter for Paul here is doing good works (produced by receiving the Holy Spirit ) would be a misreading of the text . For him, good works are a symptom not the root cause of the matter. His summary here is based on an Old Testament understanding of the distinction between the righteous and the wicked. Both are sinners but the righteous seek after God and his ways; the wicked are opposed to God and his ways. So then in Romans 2: "To those who seek after honour, glory and what is imperishable, which accords with perseverance in doing good, he will give eternal life.....to those who are self-seeking, who close their minds to the truth, but open them up to that which is is wrong: anger and wrath". The common translation here is misleading: "to those who by persevering in doing good seek after honour, glory and the imperishable". That makes it sound like we cannot be judged to belong to God until we have accrued a sufficiently large CV of persevering in good works to qualify for this. Which would be difficult to square with the repentant thief on the cross who is promised salvation, or the story of the prodigal son (what good works had he accrued), or indeed any genuine deathbed conversion of the kind Wright has elsewhere said is a valid and saving conversion. In line with this, Wright's reading of Paul when he expresses concern that by not beating his body he risks "being disqualified" - he might lose his salvation altogether - is a harsh one. It will leave some feeling a sword of Damocles is constantly hanging over their heads with the eternal salvation at stake if they don't keep their spiritual life sufficiently up to scratch. If that's the case, then a death bed conversion sounds like the best option!! There is another more plausible interpretation of Paul here. When an Anglican vicar is caught in serious immorality (adultery, lies or whatever), he risks being defrocked. He has been called to the ministry but may be disqualified from this by his behaviour. This does not make him eternally lost. Paul has an exceptionally high calling as an apostle, not to mention the importance of his work as a writer of Scripture. He does not want to be disqualified from that high calling. But I can't believe for a second he saw dropping out of the faith altogether as a significant risk. The implication of Col. 1.23 is that those whose faith has been firmly founded (note the Greek perfect passive participle used here) will persevere with their faith . Those who do not persevere did not have a firmly founded faith in the first place. I do not believe for a second the Paul's faith was not firmly founded
It's fascinating reading all these opinions on what Catholics believe from non-Catholics. Some of whom even have the hubris to tell Catholics who express their beliefs, that they're wrong. It's like they need to make sure their bigotry has God's stamp of approval even if it doesn't. Sad really.
I expressed my belief that a Catholic was wrong about Catholicism. Consider a mirror image - can a Catholic ever correct a Protestant about Protestantism? Yes. People can misunderstand doctrine from their own tradition. I personally think that all the infallible anathemas and spellings out that we cannot be saved if we don't believe such and such logically either trumps or at least contradicts the more ecumenical post V2 teachings. That's just what infallible teachings do, they can't really change in substance.
I'm the prophesied return of the biblical prophet Elijah (not that you should believe it, as you have no good reason to). Seek for yourself, as I can tell you that most of the Christian denominations don't even know or teach the true "Gospel" ("GOOD NEWS") of Jesus Christ, which is actually quite simple and quite the opposite of Paul's false, judgmental "gospel." "THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN YOU, " regardless of what you believe, and you can never change that fact! Alan Watts was an Anglican who found the way, and its fantastic if they allow you to seek for yourself like that. I was raised Catholic, and they wisely emphasize LOVE (while the Protestants made the HUGE error of emphasizing belief). If GOD judged us, let alone judged us based on our BELIEFS, that would be an insane god! The judgmental god is "the god of this world," "satan," the selfish human EGO. And belief in this god has led many Christians to elect an anti-Christ to lead them! Yes, it's that time, folks! But you'll find peace of mind when you find Truth, which is now readily available to all who seek.
he concept of being “born again” is at the core of Christian belief. This phrase comes from Jesus’ conversation with Nicodemus in John 3, where He tells him that one must be born again to see the kingdom of God. Being born again refers to a spiritual rebirth, where one’s old self and sinful nature are replaced with a new life in Christ. It symbolizes a transformation and commitment to following Jesus wholeheartedly. This idea has significant implications for salvation and the destiny of non-believers. Those who have been born again through faith in Jesus will inherit eternal life in heaven, as promised by God. However, those who reject this belief or choose not to follow Jesus may not experience this rebirth and will face eternal separation from God. This is a sobering reminder of the importance of sharing the message of Christ with others, as their salvation ultimately depends on it. In fact, the born-again Christian the concept of being born again is so integral that it is often seen as a necessary step toward salvation and eternal life. Galatians 1:6-10 says I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.remember For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. Acts 4:12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved
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I've always wanted to be involved for a long time but the volatility in the price has been very confusing to me. Although I have watched a lot of UA-cam videos about it but I still find it hard to understand.
I'm a new Christian in America. I am an Anglican, but and being drawn to the Orthadox Church. This Sunday i plan on attending my first liturgy at the eastern church (after Eucharist at my Episcopal Church). My church is delightful. I just feel like i might be missing out on something. We'll see how it goes. God be with you
Thanks for the commentary. Well worth the listen and inward digestion so that I can examine my own opinions for unfair bias, etc.
I’m sure there will be many who will hold fast to their prejudices (whether developed through personal experience or purely vicariously or a mix of both) and be very critical, while there will be others who love the information and insights you’ve given.
Thanks for the response starting at 19:39 about justification. I appreciated the idea of justification by faith being that God pulls forward the verdict in a sense. I hold to the idea of justification by faith that is fully realized when we believe, apart from any subsequent works, but at the same time we can see that the fruit of that faith in our lives clearly has a place in where we stand on the last day. I see that as being necessary evidence of our faith, and I think we have a role in seeing that fruit produced as we "work out" the salvation that God has already worked in us. But trying to understand this clearly is a challenge. And of course living those things out is the most important.
Great interview!
One must bear in mind, when considering whether one can attend a Catholic church whilst keeping mental 'asterix's', is that according to the Catholic church, for you to be a fully fledged member you cannot have any asterixs. You have to agree to everything they teach and all their dogmas. And so personally that would eventually become a big issue for me, if not straight away. If logistics are an issue, plenty of Protestant church's have Sunday night services.
I know many Catholics who have reservations about some official beliefs. It is a matter of priorities, like the Real Presence of OLJC in the Eucharist and of the unity that is at the heart of the Gospel.
@@marksmale827 But the dogmas say "unless you heartily believe [these things], one cannot be saved.".
@@InspironGantry The current Catechism of the CC says that there are several categories of people who are eligible for salvation. The first one is Christians, not specifically Catholics or any other group.
@ Sure, but the canons of Trent and Vatican 1 condemn all Protestants to hell, and unlike the Catechism, are held to be infallible.
Don't get me wrong, I like the post V2 changes, it's just that you can't have them and infallible canons, they really do contradict.
If you read the canons of Vatican I, or Trent, or Nicea II, it's abundantly clear that anyone who does not hold to dogma or is outside the church, cannot be saved. It says it explicitly in Vatican I.
This video should seen by every evangelical person in the world, so they can understand faith and works.
Excellent teaching, thank you
what a great question!
Interesting interview. I will share with my Anglicans and Methodists friends. So much anti catholicism among methodists, and here we have the biggest authority in Anglicanism, saying that there is no problem in adopting different traditions.
A retired bishop is not "the biggest authority in Anglicanism", which simply does not have a "biggest authority" like the RC Pope or the Patriarch the Eastern Orthodox Churches have.
@@marksmale827 Are we pretending the archbishop of Canterbury doesn't exist?
@ Archbishop of Canterbury is very similar to the Patriarch.
@ Yes, but his real authority does not extend beyond the Church of England itself.
@ Right, just like the Ecumenical Patriarch. It's a first among equals setup. Obviously Rome is different.
Much as I love what NT Wright has to say it doesn't match my experience - I had an evangelical background while my wife was a lapsed Catholic. We ended up in a fairly conservative Anglican church and our children were baptised there. So far so good - but we had a change of bishop and the new bishop was one of the most "liberal" in the Anglican Communion and we were told we had to accept same sex unions in our local church - so left. No question Holy Communion at Westminster Abbey in June 2016 was one of the high points of my Christian experience but I have definitely been struggling since her passing in March 2022. My Christian experience can't be solely UA-cam based - and much as I honor my very Catholic mother-in-law I dare not pray for my wife - that is forbidden - though there is a place in the woods near my home I go to give thanks for her and to pray for my children. I know my mother in law would love me to become a Catholic but there are specific elements in Catholicism that can't be embraced. I do pray for my inlaws but that's not based on Rome, Canterbury or anyone else but Christ alone. As MIke says, good works are not the cause of one's salvation but the living proof of it.
Thank you for sharing your experience. Why do you say that praying for your wife is forbidden?
Who said you cannot pray for the deceased? Christians have been doing that since very early times.
If there's anything central to the gospel, it absolutely has to be whether or not accept same-sex unions..
@@Bl_Radio What?
@marksmale827 homie's primary objection was based on what the congregation's particular position was on other people's sexuality and identity expression. I find that baffling that people make that a primary issue to object.
"I can't join this congregation because they don't actively intimidate and ostracize gay people and gender fluid people," seems like a weird line in the sand to me.
1 John 3:11-24 re salvation and justification - my personal go to explanation of faith/works
Praying for the conversion of the whole world to the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church 🙏
Paul evidently makes a relational, not definitional contrast between faith and works; faith is an ethical complex, a repentance that is channelled into a reliance on the Christ's Christhood; faith is a work that requires an external accomplishment that a person can put their faith in. (Will listen to the video as well as just responding to the titles).
I thought the Eucharist was the central act of Christian worship, not morning or evening prayer.
Discussing commonality with evangelicals regarding prayer and Bible reading.
But you are correct, for Anglicans the Eucharist is central.
I don't understand why most Protestants do not accept John 6 verses 51 to 68, while saying they believe in scripture more than Catholics do. Can you enlighten me?
@@shaunmacloughlin7303 Because the Eucharist is about unity and Protestantism is - by its very nature - fractious.
@@shaunmacloughlin7303 Because the Eucharist is about unity and Protestantism is - by its very nature - fractious.
@@shaunmacloughlin7303 Of course Protestants believe those scriptures. Jesus is the living bread of life. It is necessary to take him in.
We're justified by grace but you have to cooperate with that grace, follow where grace leads you, it's not a passive salvation. And as you follow God's call you are justified.
So "the life lived" = "by their fruits you will know them"?
How does one submit a question?
The covenant in his blood brings the assurance of salvation here and now. "There is now therefore no condemnation..." (Romans 8:1)
The Spirit thus integrates our being in Christ: thoughts, words, and deeds.
It is our task to listen to His voice and follow.
Well stated! Last night I spent 2 hours exchanging messages with Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, and Protestants on this very subject. After reading comments on a Protestant channel with the vast majority of subscribers being Catholic and Orthodox, I was deeply disturbed by the number of cruel texts…frequently anathematizing Protestants by Catholics!
I truly believe it grieves God, and discourages others from considering Christianity, when they witness us condemning one another! For we will be judged or condemned by others, based on our thoughts, deeds, and words! But, most importantly, we will have to answer to the Lord one day, and I never wish Him to ask why my actions or tongue discouraged nonbelievers from seeking salvation, nor caused a division between our brothers and sisters in the global church! For if we wish to be forgiven, we must forgive. We are to follow Christ’s example in how we conduct ourselves…treating both those we love and our enemies in an honourable and respectable manner, as the Lord commanded us to do: Love our our neighbours and our enemies; doing onto others as we wish them to do to us; we are commanded to love one another as Christ loves the Church.
Recently, many podcasters have been commenting on Wesley Huff’s calm and gracious demeanor towards others. Personally, I bewildered by such claims, as I have grown up in Canada and that’s how the vast majority of us treat one another. Secondly, being raised in a Christian home, I always took it for granted that Scripture states we must show others respect and kindness - regardless of how someone behaves towards us.
Thank you for mentioning Romans 8:1, as we all need reminders from time to time! Perhaps this Scriptural reference will encourage the greater “Body of Christ” make a greater effort in stilling our tongue, guarding our actions, join together in serving God and humanity, be a better witness so others will seek Truth and Salvation in our Messiah.
Many Blessings!❤xx🇨🇦xx❤
So, we're reduced to our own subjectivity, ultimately?
It seems to me that Romans 1 & 2 are where Paul is "building a case" for why we need the gift of God's grace to justify us. This argument culminates in Romans 3:10-20. Without God's grace, we all would be judged according to our works, and we all would be judged unrighteous. But through faith in Christ, God counts righteousness _apart from works_ to the believer (Rom. 3:21-5:19). Thus it is erroneous to pick Romans 2 out of context as a reason why _believers_ will be judged according to our works; Romans 2 applies to _the unregenerate._ NT's reasoning clouds the Gospel message of salvation by grace through faith and not through works, a message which is make clear in John 3:14-18; John 6:28-47; Mark 16:16; Romans 10:9-13; Galatians 3:1-14; and Ephesians 2:8-10. Although we are called by God to fulfill the works which He foreordained for us to walk in, those works are not our own; they are the good fruit borne by the indwelling Holy Spirit as He guides and enables us to love & obey unselfishly. (This, BTW, stands in strong contrast to the Roman Catholic doctrine that, through these works, one can merit for himself the graces he needs for eternal life.)
There is this idea that evangelicalism in practice absolves us from the need to do good works. What a great idea! One accepts Christ as "personal Saviour and Lord" and we are automatically saved, regardless of anything we do - or don't do - in the rest of our lives. We are free to do exactly as we please, provided that we don't commit gross sins like theft and murder. Why bother to take that person whose car has run out of petrol to the nearest garage and back with a can of fuel? We're saved regardless. And for the "unsaved" who have not accepted Christ as "personal Saviour and Lord", any good works they may do in their lives have no salvific value and are apparently worthless in the sight of almighty God.
I have been an evangelical Christian for 53 years converting to The Lord Jesus Christ when I was 20 from a totally non religious home and have fellowshipped in many of the streams of evangelicalism and yes, met a few here and there who didn’t believe the way they lived their lives BUT the large majority, like myself, seek to truly live out the teachings of The Lord Jesus through The Holy Spirit and Gods Word.
There is no "theme of unity" in the New Testament. Rather, there is the imperative to be unified in the NT
It is a conversation not a sermon podcast from N T . Have a bit more loving kindness.
I love N.T. Wright. His work on justification is, ultimately, what led me to become Catholic (though it took ~15 years). But I'm pretty surprised that one of the options he recommends here is "get baptized outside of the Catholic Church and see if your wife's parish will let you receive the eucharist anyway". I'm sure he's right that plenty of Catholic priests would quietly say, "yes, you can receive". But surely there's something dishonest about knowing that the Church thinks you can't and exploiting the opinions of an individual priest to defy it? I attended non-denom/Baptist churches, and Catholic masses, for 16 years, taking communion at the former - right up until I decided I had to be received into the Catholic Church. At which point, I went without any communion as I spent several months in an OCIA class before being confirmed last Easter. Surely that's the right way to do things. And if you can't give the assent of faith (even if it's, on some issues, "I don't understand how this is but I trust") to what a Church believes you should give the assent of faith to, you should remain as much on the outside as the Church requires. Which, really, just extends to the sacramental life. A Protestant husband of a Catholic wife can in good conscience participate in every aspect of Catholic life except for the sacramental. And that's what my advice would be- if you can't accept the faith, receive a trinitarian baptism from a Protestant church, attend mass with your family (and, if they're up for it, have them attend a Protestant church with you) and keep learning.
Scripture says Christ’s sacrifice was once. Catholics say it continues in the mass. Hebrews says that recrucifying Christ is apostasy and such people cannot be renewed again to repentance. They are like chaff that is for only to be burned. No Bible/believing Christian could participate in the mass in good conscience.
My experience in rural communities in Baptist, Catholic and Episcopal spaces is that the Catholic faith weaponizes the sacraments to control people, whereas Protestants are less inclined to “refuse, withhold or prevent” based on ritual confession of sins to a priest. The major doctrine that grounds me in the Protestant faith is the priesthood of all believers, confessing sins to each other not to a professional priest but to the brother I have sinned against, as the preparation for receiving the Eucharist. From a very early age I have included Catholics and all trinitarians in my family of faith and never excluded any trinitarian, and I would appreciate the same courtesy to be extended by Catholics to other trinitarians who try to walk with the Holy Spirit to be conformed to the image of Christ - in thanksgiving and love and mercy and kindness Galatians 5 people - love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness, kindness, meekness, faithfulness and self-control when the Spirit guides our steps.
@@SibleySteve Catholics are not weaponizing Sacraments. 1) The Theology underlying the Sacraments is different from the Catholic to protestant view, the Holy Eucharist is the "Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ" Truly Substantially present (does not mean literally eating Christ ear) but truly Substantially present (Really present) and 2) The Eucharist represents a common celebration of not only Eucharistic faith, but a communion that is fully operational and for Catholics, regardless of who the Pope is, Saintly Pope, sinful Pope, brilliant Pope, not so smart Pope, etc, in a parish under a Diocesan Bishop in full communion with the Bishop of Rome.
Hope this helps, Cheers.
@ It's weaponised when it's dogmatised and used as the basis of an anathema.
It depends. If you really believe that the RCC should not disallow non-Catholic Christians from receiving the eucharist, then you could make an argument that breaking this rule is following God's Law above man's. Of course, that hinges on your view of the issue, but it is certainly worth noting that Jesus also at times broke religious conventions.
I love this podcast but must say with respect to this episode that I want to hear more fro NT Wright and less from the podcast host
I tend to agree with this. At the end the host is giving quotes from Calvin and Augustine. That's not what I came to hear.
Mike Bird hardly said anything, I don't know what you're talking about.
Mike Bird is a great scholar too.
A little part of me just died 😥
Too close to the camera btw, it makes it feel like invasion of personal space.
Isn’t this idea of finding a church that aligns with your own (private) interpretation of scripture a recipe for ecclesiastical chaos? No wonder Protestantism has become this extraordinary mishmash of churches and sects.
And if one cannot find a church that aligns sufficiently with one’s own interpretation of scripture, what is one to do? What many people today are doing is being what an Anglican cathedral dean described as The Church of One, God, the Bible and me, a complete parody of the NT and the Church Fathers..
Don't join Rome. The gospel there is confused at best and absent at worst. Yes, Protestantism has problems, no the gospel is not always present or well taught in Protestant churches, but there are plenty of any Protestant flavour where the gospel is uncompromisingly taught.
Some people make too much of Galatians warning about other gospels; Wright and co make far too little.
NT describes the reality of the Roman Catholic world: most Catholics are not "good Catholics" who believe all of the RC dogmas, even though the RCC requires belief in the dogmas as a salvific matter. As a former cradle Catholic, I do not believe several of their dogmas and so I could never in good conscience return to the Roman church. My greatest disagreement is with their dogma of Transubstantiation, which leads the Catholic Church to teach their laity to worship the Eucharist; it seems heinous and contrary to Exodus 20:4-5 to direct actual worship toward the man-made ("graven") image of a bread wafer as Almighty God.
And yet it doesn't. The presence of the host is a sign of God's presence, not actually God. Funny how that works, eh? :-(
@@pdyt2009 The Catholic Church does not teach one to worship "God's presence signified by the presence of the host." The Catholic Church teaches their laity to worship the Eucharist itself, and the whole of the Eucharist inescapably is part substance and part accidents in RC theology. The accidents are not separated or separable from the substance; they are one.
CCC 1378: “Worship of the Eucharist...The Catholic Church...offers to the sacrament of the Eucharist the cult of adoration...”
Funny how the official Catholic doctrine works against your slippery reasoning, eh?
@@pdyt2009 Transubstantiation says it *is* Christ. Period. Not only that, but it ceases to be bread and wine in essence.
@@InspironGantry You cannot deny or separate the man-made image of bread from your Eucharist. The inescapable existence of that graven image subjects you to the stricture of Exodus 20:4-5.
@ I'm not Catholic. I oppose the doctrine of transubstantiation. The person I responded to was defending the Catholic position by claiming it is less than it is.
Came for Tom- got a nervous sermon from some other guy... 😂
I wasn't nervous! Maybe I could have been clearer, but not nervous.
@earlychristianhistorywithm8684 I'm just busting your chops. Whoever edits your videos can tell you how much you were talking vs. one of the leading theological experts and generational minds in the world.
@@Bl_Radio I know, no offense taken.
He is a great NT scholar
I love Tom Wright, but his reductionism drives me nuts! The Elijah syndrome is just annoying! I wish Tom Wright would more charitable toward his own heritage, which has always affirmed the necessity of sanctification, as part of one's union with Christ.
Aren't Denominations man made ! and not ordained or have God's blessing 🙏
You can say that all religions are “man made”, it’s the dogma and practice that reveals what we believe.
The Trinity is neither a dogma nor a religion. However, Christ, the Apostles, and Church Fathers did follow doctrine layed out by the Lord in Scripture, and through our Messiah’s example while on this earth. Jesus and the Apostles also went to the Temple, which isn’t something we currently practice…partly due to the destruction of the Temple in 70AD, as well, Gentiles and the Jewish Remnant is spread throughout the world, which is why Christ said, “Where 2 or more are gathered in my name, there I am also”. Finally, we constructed churches, so we can gather and worship God together, just as the disciples did 2 Millenia ago. Furthermore, we should be worshiping, praying, and fasting regularly - which sometimes means Sunday to Saturday, Lent, Feast days and Fasting periods.
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Poor arguments. Two strawman in my opinion
So, we're reduced to Sola Scriptura and the private interpretation of it. This becomes one's private standard of orthodoxy. 🤷🏻♂️
Much appreciated Tom Wright's answer to the first question.
But there is an aspect of his answer the second question which I found very concerning, and could create real pastoral problems for sensitive souls. To talk about Romans 2 as if the root matter for Paul here is doing good works (produced by receiving the Holy Spirit ) would be a misreading of the text . For him, good works are a symptom not the root cause of the matter. His summary here is based on an Old Testament understanding of the distinction between the righteous and the wicked. Both are sinners but the righteous seek after God and his ways; the wicked are opposed to God and his ways. So then in Romans 2: "To those who seek after honour, glory and what is imperishable, which accords with perseverance in doing good, he will give eternal life.....to those who are self-seeking, who close their minds to the truth, but open them up to that which is is wrong: anger and wrath". The common translation here is misleading: "to those who by persevering in doing good seek after honour, glory and the imperishable". That makes it sound like we cannot be judged to belong to God until we have accrued a sufficiently large CV of persevering in good works to qualify for this. Which would be difficult to square with the repentant thief on the cross who is promised salvation, or the story of the prodigal son (what good works had he accrued), or indeed any genuine deathbed conversion of the kind Wright has elsewhere said is a valid and saving conversion.
In line with this, Wright's reading of Paul when he expresses concern that by not beating his body he risks "being disqualified" - he might lose his salvation altogether - is a harsh one. It will leave some feeling a sword of Damocles is constantly hanging over their heads with the eternal salvation at stake if they don't keep their spiritual life sufficiently up to scratch. If that's the case, then a death bed conversion sounds like the best option!! There is another more plausible interpretation of Paul here. When an Anglican vicar is caught in serious immorality (adultery, lies or whatever), he risks being defrocked. He has been called to the ministry but may be disqualified from this by his behaviour. This does not make him eternally lost. Paul has an exceptionally high calling as an apostle, not to mention the importance of his work as a writer of Scripture. He does not want to be disqualified from that high calling. But I can't believe for a second he saw dropping out of the faith altogether as a significant risk. The implication of Col.
1.23 is that those whose faith has been firmly founded (note the Greek perfect passive participle used here) will persevere with their faith . Those who do not persevere did not have a firmly founded faith in the first place. I do not believe for a second the Paul's faith was not firmly founded
"Should I be Catholic or Anglican?" What about neither?
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This is the only correct response. I'd rather have cancer than be Catholic.
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Anglican here in Canada. I love how liberal we are.
Do you want a salad or a potato? Umm…
You should be Protestant.
It's fascinating reading all these opinions on what Catholics believe from non-Catholics. Some of whom even have the hubris to tell Catholics who express their beliefs, that they're wrong. It's like they need to make sure their bigotry has God's stamp of approval even if it doesn't. Sad really.
I expressed my belief that a Catholic was wrong about Catholicism. Consider a mirror image - can a Catholic ever correct a Protestant about Protestantism?
Yes. People can misunderstand doctrine from their own tradition.
I personally think that all the infallible anathemas and spellings out that we cannot be saved if we don't believe such and such logically either trumps or at least contradicts the more ecumenical post V2 teachings. That's just what infallible teachings do, they can't really change in substance.
I'm the prophesied return of the biblical prophet Elijah (not that you should believe it, as you have no good reason to). Seek for yourself, as I can tell you that most of the Christian denominations don't even know or teach the true "Gospel" ("GOOD NEWS") of Jesus Christ, which is actually quite simple and quite the opposite of Paul's false, judgmental "gospel."
"THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN YOU, " regardless of what you believe, and you can never change that fact! Alan Watts was an Anglican who found the way, and its fantastic if they allow you to seek for yourself like that. I was raised Catholic, and they wisely emphasize LOVE (while the Protestants made the HUGE error of emphasizing belief). If GOD judged us, let alone judged us based on our BELIEFS, that would be an insane god! The judgmental god is "the god of this world," "satan," the selfish human EGO. And belief in this god has led many Christians to elect an anti-Christ to lead them! Yes, it's that time, folks! But you'll find peace of mind when you find Truth, which is now readily available to all who seek.
wasted of oxygen .. chat about nonsense . Like listening to people chat about just how long Harry Potters wand is.
he concept of being “born again” is at the core of Christian belief. This phrase comes from Jesus’ conversation with Nicodemus in John 3, where He tells him that one must be born again to see the kingdom of God. Being born again refers to a spiritual rebirth, where one’s old self and sinful nature are replaced with a new life in Christ. It symbolizes a transformation and commitment to following Jesus wholeheartedly. This idea has significant implications for salvation and the destiny of non-believers. Those who have been born again through faith in Jesus will inherit eternal life in heaven, as promised by God. However, those who reject this belief or choose not to follow Jesus may not experience this rebirth and will face eternal separation from God. This is a sobering reminder of the importance of sharing the message of Christ with others, as their salvation ultimately depends on it. In fact, the born-again Christian the concept of being born again is so integral that it is often seen as a necessary step toward salvation and eternal life. Galatians 1:6-10 says
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.remember For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. Acts 4:12
And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved