ULTIMATE UPGRADE TIERLIST & DIMINISHING RETURNS GUIDE (NOV 2024)

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  • @jayyaudio
    @jayyaudio  Місяць тому +17

    UPDATE FOR THE GIVEAWAY:
    WARNING ⚠️ THERE’S A SCAM ACCOUNT GOING AROUND AND REPLYING TO PEOPLE. THAT IS NOT ME. I DON’T REPLY TO YOU IF YOU WIN AS I WILL ANNOUNCE IT IN A PINNED COMMENT LIKE THIS OR THROUGH COMMUNITY POST. BEAWARE GUYS. IF YOU WIN EMAIL ME. I WILL NEVER ASK YOU TO GO ON FACEBOOK OR ANY OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA/TEXTING SITES
    MAKE SURE TO CLICK ON THE ACCOUNT FIRST AND CHECK.
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    Of course this is outside the IEM itself. Forgot to mention buying used or trading is also a good strat, I’d place it high prior after fit & comfort

  • @Helmond2017
    @Helmond2017 Місяць тому +24

    Eartips are much more important than cables IMO, excellent video

    • @Astrqx
      @Astrqx 24 дні тому +2

      Cables dont matter

    • @Helmond2017
      @Helmond2017 23 дні тому

      @@Astrqx It matters, ever used the cable that comes with Blon bl03?

    • @Ulquiorra_Cifer
      @Ulquiorra_Cifer 21 день тому +1

      ​@@Helmond2017most of new iems come with decent cable from the get go so it's not necessary unless u need one with a cable

    • @Helmond2017
      @Helmond2017 20 днів тому +1

      @@Ulquiorra_Cifer I know. The Blon bl03 cable is an exception in that case. I don't believe in cables too.

    • @DumbOrangeFrog
      @DumbOrangeFrog 16 днів тому

      You should upgrade cable if the stock one is microphonic or tangly

  • @capberganza
    @capberganza Місяць тому +5

    eartips were THE upgrade for me, changed everything

    • @ReverendDr.Thomas
      @ReverendDr.Thomas Місяць тому

      INDEED - eartips can make a massive difference to the at-eardrum frequency response.

  • @ChuckleNorris420
    @ChuckleNorris420 Місяць тому +18

    Excellent vid and I big agree tips are so important!

    • @jayyaudio
      @jayyaudio  Місяць тому +3

      Glad you enjoyed it 🙏 Tips are GOATED frfr

    • @arrowzen7433
      @arrowzen7433 27 днів тому +1

      Fit is (almost) everything - both in terms of comfort and sound. Hence tips are VERY important. If you can’t get a seal everything else doesn’t matter…

  • @miershyk
    @miershyk Місяць тому +12

    Eartips are definitely a game changer! I have a few different sets myself, and at times I grab a different one just to hear the difference in sound, and it opens up a lot of opportunity for slight tuning shifts! Fit is also very important to me for I've small ears. For example, I really do enjoy the Delci AE, but due to its shape, I'm not able to wear it for more than 2 hours per session. The EW300xHBB on the other hand, slots right into place and I can wear it the whole day without any issue.

    • @jayyaudio
      @jayyaudio  Місяць тому

      💯

    • @igotbluesdevils
      @igotbluesdevils 12 днів тому +1

      I just grabbed EW300s, goddamn these things are so comfy and sound great

    • @miershyk
      @miershyk 12 днів тому

      @@igotbluesdevils They really are! I've been eyeing the EW series because of their smaller size but I was iffy about the treble. So glad Simgot came out with the EW300s. The Delci AE is great and all, but the treble feels a bit piercing (to me, for both tunings), even if I love the clarity of it. That, and also the fit. EW300 is a tad bit warm, but changing eartips open it up.

  • @alexroot1980
    @alexroot1980 Місяць тому +7

    Dude, I'm in love with you! Couple hours ago I bought a 3$ KZ 3-sized foam eartips set from AE (BF sale) and you just confirmed me that it was the cheaper, wiser and most returning upgrade, over a new pair of iems! This channel is a hidden gem! You deserve AL LEAST 100k subs!

  • @keiz_
    @keiz_ 28 днів тому +2

    Appreciate your breakdown of this stuff. TBH hadn't fully considered a lot of this stuff before despite being in this hobby for a little while, so i appreciate it.

  • @treblewellxtended
    @treblewellxtended Місяць тому +6

    Very well explained. Esp. the eartips, they play the biggest role in my opinion and are the most value for money product in this hobby towards IEMs.

    • @jayyaudio
      @jayyaudio  Місяць тому +2

      Word 💯 tips are underrated

  • @izmedyan
    @izmedyan Місяць тому +3

    Favorite video by far! Definitely agree with eartips being at the top of the list. I’ve also had the same experience with the Pilgrim where the stock tips weren’t the best choice. I did find the Velvets, Spinfit W1s, and the Softears UC to work on them really well for my ears.

  • @Zadym
    @Zadym День тому +1

    That was useful, thanks!

  • @LongLegsLong
    @LongLegsLong Місяць тому +4

    Great video as always!
    Im in this hobby for almost 7 years.
    In my country I have the luxury to have shops can demo majority of IEMS , Dacs etc.
    Always try first, dont blind buy.
    I do recomend to get a good source/dac that suits your taste. A good source/dac can give a different sound different sound signature.
    ESS dacs = brings out dry sharp fast details.
    AKM dacs = brings out a smooth and detail sound sig.
    I prefer IEM and dacs that allow me to listen for long hours. I pick AKM dacs.

  • @lanterhanom831
    @lanterhanom831 27 днів тому +2

    for me fit and comfort is a must do thing, because I use my IEM a lot.

  • @RatedAfter
    @RatedAfter Місяць тому

    Cheers to you for doing a giveaway! I’ve never been able to grab any higher-end IEMs, so fingers crossed! I started with the BLON BL-03 way back in 2019.

  • @deadline7610
    @deadline7610 Місяць тому +1

    Nicely Done.
    Comfort, comfort, comfort.
    You rock.

  • @jinqyauchee3083
    @jinqyauchee3083 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks again Jays Audio for alwayd the great advice. Ear tips are always my upgrade of new IEM, Spinfit is always my go to when looking for ear tips upgrade.

  • @chinyson1023
    @chinyson1023 Місяць тому +1

    I would highly recommend divinus velvet wide bore. Sure it's pricy but it is very comfy for me and sounds amazing.

  • @3ildcard
    @3ildcard Місяць тому +6

    And Jay became even more trustworthy and valuable source for Audio stuff. No bs, no snake oil.
    I love when people don't pretend they can hear the grass growing. Hate that cable and dac/amp propaganda from delulu's who cope too much to justify their purchases. You have manufacturer like JDS Labs, someone who has done research and would directly benefit financially from selling larger line of products saying how "chips are designed to sound the same, if yours sound different it is likely faulty" and then you have the average Head-Fi'er "bRo ThiS DaC IS wARm, ThE oThER iS tOo CliNiCal". With the exception for Tube/R2R of course but those are intentionally designed to alter the sound and not just placebo driven nonsense. In the regular ones all you hear is dB differences = lower volume/higher volume, match them and they sound the same. And JDS Labs goes more indepth why A/B wouldn't work either because it has to happen in 0.2sec timeframe.

    • @jayyaudio
      @jayyaudio  Місяць тому +3

      I gotchu

    • @3ildcard
      @3ildcard Місяць тому +1

      @@jayyaudio Doing God's work my man, keep it up. We need more honesty and less "buy buy consume, daddy needs free units to promote".

  • @Ashlander1
    @Ashlander1 Місяць тому

    Thanks for the giveaway opportunity! I started with the Truthear Hexas a few years back which brought me into the world of IEMs.

  • @FunFiEmpire
    @FunFiEmpire Місяць тому +1

    Nice list, agree about tips over cables (unless you have very microphonic cable). Thanks for the....tips.

  • @Quo_Audito
    @Quo_Audito Місяць тому +1

    I have to say I agree with all your points of each of these ideas and applications. I just started tip rolling and wow, never knew it actually would make a difference.
    When i started listening to the Tea Pros I just got, my first thought was that it felt as though it was congested on busier tracks. Then, I got the Divinus Velvet Wide Bore Eartips and now it feels open and that problem is not a thing.

  • @itsmeyouknow9892
    @itsmeyouknow9892 25 днів тому +1

    Nice content,very informative.
    In my case i go addicted to custom eq using squiglink and wavelet.

  • @kos-2424
    @kos-2424 Місяць тому +1

    You're one of my favorite Audio Channels, Jay ;)

  • @MasterHouyi
    @MasterHouyi Місяць тому +1

    Definitely agree about tips as they are so important.
    I loved the spinfits w1. Unfortunately, lost them :(
    Gotta get more tips. Thinking of trying divinus velvets next.

  • @LessSugarCoffe
    @LessSugarCoffe 26 днів тому +2

    Fitting is the most important thing for me, just like you said, no matter how good the IEM sounds, if the fit is bad, it won't stay comfortable for long

  • @formerviking
    @formerviking Місяць тому +1

    Once I found out about the Dunu S&S tips, my entire opinion about iems changed.

  • @bogusaurus1220
    @bogusaurus1220 Місяць тому

    Hey Jay, always had a good time watching your videos and I love the speedrunning/ranking iems videos. Keep up the good work man!

    • @jayyaudio
      @jayyaudio  Місяць тому

      Thanks bro! I appreciate that, glad you're enjoying them!

  • @van_zahn
    @van_zahn Місяць тому

    Couldn't agree more with your list. We need more advice video like this

  • @brightonrose6242
    @brightonrose6242 Місяць тому

    All I want for Christmas is a solid IEM upgrade
    Thank you for your reviews, they’ve only taken me deeper into the rabbit hole that is this hobby

  • @williamsolivia-k2p
    @williamsolivia-k2p Місяць тому

    I actually have my left ear canal larger than my right. Looking into tips now and just learn that good seal can be make or break for any iem. Thanks for the tips lol

  • @philipm.4738
    @philipm.4738 Місяць тому +1

    Really good video! Loved the matching pics to the themes you used. Very clever and often pretty funny😅
    As someone who maintains the hobby through budget sets, l find changing the tips is a huge factor! One brand in particular,Simgot , doesn't fit my ears very easily and finding the right tips to get a seal is huge with them. Thanks again for a very informative talk.

    • @jayyaudio
      @jayyaudio  Місяць тому

      Glad you found it helpful!

  • @iamarif7
    @iamarif7 Місяць тому +1

    my first iem was tangzu waner, now i am using epz q1 pro. looking forward to upgrade.... I love being on the hobby.

  • @Gershy13
    @Gershy13 Місяць тому +2

    Would love a video on tips, explaining the difference in sound quality depending on bore size etc. and a list of tips to get for people that are looking to tip roll.

  • @UFO-Audio
    @UFO-Audio Місяць тому +2

    Jay, you are a gentleman and a scholar! This type of video is exactly the content the IEM community needs.

    • @jayyaudio
      @jayyaudio  Місяць тому

      Appreciate the kind words !

  • @Ous_Sama
    @Ous_Sama Місяць тому

    i haven't quite got into iems yet in my audio journey , i only have my openback fidelio X2HR headphones that were my introduction into the audiophile hobby , and boy was i blown away with the difference in the sound quality and the veryy detailed treble that i can say was almost non existent before (i wonder if i actually was hearing any treble before listening to them lol) ,and also i started liking hearing all the crackles and the little imperfections in the recordings of some songs , totally new experience and i wonder what else will i discover and hear more if i upgraded them ! can't wait to do so and also get started on the iem train !

  • @gabech2789
    @gabech2789 Місяць тому +2

    Solid advice like always 👊 this is so helpful for someone just getting started

    • @jayyaudio
      @jayyaudio  Місяць тому +1

      Glad you found it useful 🎧

  • @Just-h4k2t
    @Just-h4k2t Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for the help guide 👍🏼

  • @joaobortone4312
    @joaobortone4312 Місяць тому

    Thanks for the video, dispite all that, would love to try some great cables just to feel what it's like haha

  • @tippotom
    @tippotom 23 дні тому +1

    Thanks for the great vids!

  • @idonats
    @idonats 29 днів тому +2

    With my current lineup of iems, i could say that I've spent more on the variety of eartips alone than the iems themself. Totlly worth it

  • @1236987attoila
    @1236987attoila Місяць тому +1

    Well made video , I personally like your attitude, your humbleness

  • @mikenye9605
    @mikenye9605 Місяць тому

    I have been getting more tips and seeing they can be enjoyable!

  • @marksr12
    @marksr12 Місяць тому +2

    Great video, thanks!

  • @marcingarstecki7326
    @marcingarstecki7326 27 днів тому +1

    Simple and comprehensive explanation 👍 and That's how this hobby keep rolling. 😅

  • @relaxmike9149
    @relaxmike9149 Місяць тому +1

    this video prolly saved me money, tips tips tips

  • @raresheel
    @raresheel Місяць тому +1

    Broooo❤ You are the best! 🥰

  • @KiwiNickG
    @KiwiNickG Місяць тому +2

    Agree with tips use Dunu SS, Divinus wides and Final type E and one normally sounds great

  • @lalithaannaldas4877
    @lalithaannaldas4877 Місяць тому +1

    Very helpful video

  • @meredithgordon4101
    @meredithgordon4101 Місяць тому

    If I had to choose one would definitely be tip rolling. Love this kind of video, would’ve been perfect for me when I joined this hobby.

  • @arifrahmanafandi4251
    @arifrahmanafandi4251 Місяць тому

    I do agree, eartips is more important for better fitting and sound quality than the cable does

  • @eduardRyanpiadozo
    @eduardRyanpiadozo Місяць тому +1

    Cables can be good upgrade if your stock cable is bad the only benefit you will get from a cable is the Looks and the untangles of the cable

  • @GreyGh0st17
    @GreyGh0st17 Місяць тому +1

    Nice list

  • @RheinmetallPanzer
    @RheinmetallPanzer Місяць тому +1

    Now I know that to improve overall sound can be achieved with low cost budget, eartips I'm in.

  • @nehcnoraa5562
    @nehcnoraa5562 28 днів тому +1

    If it comfy, it's for me

  • @Chida_o_0
    @Chida_o_0 Місяць тому +1

    I like the slower pace of this video

  • @zblus
    @zblus Місяць тому +1

    I love kz starline eartips ❤

  • @demondjackson2875
    @demondjackson2875 Місяць тому +1

    Great Job Jay!!!
    Appreciate u

  • @ozymandiasramsesii5691
    @ozymandiasramsesii5691 24 дні тому +1

    I found out that sometimes big size iem that not fit to my ears can be overcome by choosing the right eartips

  • @Spartakus-s2l
    @Spartakus-s2l 22 дні тому +1

    Budget limitation is the thing that's holding me from diminishing returns

  • @jazbose9164
    @jazbose9164 Місяць тому +1

    Good explaination

  • @qube561
    @qube561 Місяць тому

    Starting the tip rolling journey now

  • @Airsoft_Noobie
    @Airsoft_Noobie Місяць тому

    IEMs are amazing, but finding the right tips is a whole mission on its own!

  • @JohnClarkW
    @JohnClarkW Місяць тому +1

    Tips are a huge deal. Just getting a good seal is huge. Cables are more about how you feel about the look and feel. Sources matter, but only up to a point. I think some of the current dongle DACs can hang with big budget desktop great.

    • @JohnClarkW
      @JohnClarkW Місяць тому

      I totally agree about tuning being the real goal. There are so many great sets for very reasonable prices.

  • @roundabout9452
    @roundabout9452 Місяць тому

    We need a dedicated video on modding and how each mod affects sound! I feel like there aren't many sources for this topic in the audiophile space.

  • @TheBlackholeStar
    @TheBlackholeStar 21 день тому +1

    I'd agree, cable would be my last thing to upgrade

  • @requiemreview
    @requiemreview Місяць тому +1

    I never usually use the default eartips that come with earphones. It would be great to include ones from well-known and reputable brands that complement each IEM, such as Tangzu, Divinus, SpinFit, etc.

  • @JeuxDenfants-z3v
    @JeuxDenfants-z3v 29 днів тому +1

    I agree that cables is not very important to get better sound quality, but for better looks cables is one of way

  • @pazzik400
    @pazzik400 Місяць тому +1

    Cables higherr user comfort the most important thing on my oppinion

  • @arnaudg57
    @arnaudg57 Місяць тому

    Eartips make such a difference, both to sound quality and comfort. Tip rolling is goat

  • @francesco6647
    @francesco6647 Місяць тому +1

    Eq definetly the most impactful

  • @pmdthewizard
    @pmdthewizard Місяць тому +1

    Couldn't agree more, tips are a must. Just changing the size of the tips make a huge difference for me let alone switching to another type. As for DAC, I personally don't own one but I ordered the jcally jm6 pro, it should come this week. Will see how much of a difference it will make.
    Great video btw, as always 🫡

  • @albertjohn-uq8uv
    @albertjohn-uq8uv Місяць тому

    Your list is very helpful, thank you

    • @jayyaudio
      @jayyaudio  Місяць тому

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @muhammadali.8170
    @muhammadali.8170 Місяць тому +1

    I'm someone who's had fit issues since the start. My right ear canal has a wide opening but gets narrow towards the inside whereas my left is quite literally the opposite. Comfort is an easy "Must Do" for me solely due to how much it's been a bother

  • @birby5343
    @birby5343 Місяць тому

    I never knew eartip was that important until I got my dunu titan s2 and tried all the different tips that came with it.

  • @kenmasters007
    @kenmasters007 Місяць тому +3

    Would love to see an ear tip guide... I bought the Zm4 and tea pros based on your videos.. Thank you!

    • @CookinBeatloaf
      @CookinBeatloaf Місяць тому

      Same! Bonus: budget IEM that come with quality cable and the better tips, like does the Wan Er have the same tips as the Gate? For $10 that's a backup set and cable instead of buying just the tips

  • @HeyBrandey
    @HeyBrandey Місяць тому +1

    Source is my numba one priority in this hobby,

  • @igrisXD
    @igrisXD Місяць тому

    People don't realize how underrated eartip upgrades are!

  • @jaroslavfricek7772
    @jaroslavfricek7772 22 дні тому +1

    Thanks Jay, I just got this amp Astell Kern PA10 still portable stuff, I hook it to Fiio Q15 or this sweet sounding oldy Tri Tk2 and let me tell you… it is a difference, lifelike difference🔆 have to say😄🙋‍♂️ , btw Iam now around the $1000 mark but still have to come back to Meteor and Project M very often❤️

    • @jayyaudio
      @jayyaudio  22 дні тому +1

      Glad you're enjoying the hobby~

    • @jaroslavfricek7772
      @jaroslavfricek7772 21 день тому

      Thank you, may I have a question? Do you think, is there some cheaper set you would recommend to someone who passed the thousand dollar mark, you know still worth getting, no matter the price...✌️ 😁 ❤️

  • @seanner69
    @seanner69 Місяць тому +1

    My goat

  • @potatopotata10
    @potatopotata10 Місяць тому +1

    I thought the eartips dont matter much until I recently tried it myself. Good tips man! Also next collab when?

  • @SigeramBorgir
    @SigeramBorgir 28 днів тому +1

    Source is the key for long term

  • @tkachenko9584
    @tkachenko9584 Місяць тому +1

    Great vid!

  • @admiralkulakov
    @admiralkulakov 29 днів тому +1

    Eartips is da key to get better fitting comfort and sound quality

  • @fratm8931
    @fratm8931 Місяць тому

    My left ear has a really weire shape so eartips choice is crucial when i use a new iem. Great tips

  • @adityairawan1843
    @adityairawan1843 Місяць тому +1

    I can't really discern cable sound differences, but I still take one for longevity and aesthetics purposes.
    Sometimes the stock cable makes me worry, as I feel they are not durable enough.
    Recently I found out a weird thing; for Single DD IEMs I like to pair them with 4.4mm balanced cables. For hybrids, however, I like to keep them stock.

  • @alp786
    @alp786 Місяць тому

    Great review

  • @zyrf1167
    @zyrf1167 16 днів тому +1

    i have those febos i love them

  • @catdampawshaker2735
    @catdampawshaker2735 Місяць тому

    Eartips definitely are super important in how a earpiece will sound for you, though I definitely see more merit in more expensive sets in spite of diminishing returns

    • @jayyaudio
      @jayyaudio  Місяць тому +1

      You're absolutely right, eartips are a big deal. It's all about finding that perfect fit.

  • @EricJorgensen1
    @EricJorgensen1 Місяць тому

    Thanks for this

  • @Final_Blackberry_282
    @Final_Blackberry_282 25 днів тому +1

    Looking to upgrade asap!!!

  • @barshatshrestha3269
    @barshatshrestha3269 29 днів тому +1

    So cables should only be upgraded if it is damaged.

  • @arrowzen7433
    @arrowzen7433 27 днів тому +1

    Cable impedance does matter and will change driver performance.

  • @sharuraudio
    @sharuraudio Місяць тому +3

    Holy hell your views are incredible

  • @guilherme00
    @guilherme00 Місяць тому +1

    great video

  • @huangdanni89
    @huangdanni89 Місяць тому +1

    Tips do matter a lot!
    I saw somewhere that cables with mics always sound worse than ones without is that really true?

  • @fakeklg
    @fakeklg Місяць тому

    Love the Dunu tips

  • @nadeemmir991
    @nadeemmir991 Місяць тому +1

    🎉🎉🎉🎉 very good video thank you so much 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 value for time video❤

  • @zaza5820
    @zaza5820 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks

  • @matteodimaggio7856
    @matteodimaggio7856 Місяць тому +1

    was looking to upgrade from aria 1 to s12 is it worth it?

  • @CookinBeatloaf
    @CookinBeatloaf Місяць тому +1

    Finally, the tier list tier list. I could use some help - I got the star city 5 pro and have been very happy with it, although there is something in the treble that makes some recordings a little rough (early Nine Inch Nails). I wanted two pairs - one for studio (flat, maybe a little extra treble) and one for enjoyment (to me, a nice zero red). Originally Nova, but worried it's more like original zero blue for me and will not use foam. Maybe supermix or ke4 for the fun?

    • @jayyaudio
      @jayyaudio  Місяць тому +1

      Ya supermix4 would be good

    • @CookinBeatloaf
      @CookinBeatloaf Місяць тому

      Thanks, I'm not getting notifications anymore on YT so had to check back manually, the quick feedback you give is great

  • @JohnSmithisnotme
    @JohnSmithisnotme Місяць тому +1

    ear tips are fun, spent $100 on multiple ear tips and you are set.
    DAPs are great for portable because it's an all-in-one solution for source and amplifier.
    cables are cables, just don't overpay, they tune the sound a tiny bit, but mostly you get the cosmetics value
    (cool color and hardware).
    iem>tips>dap/sources>cables