I’m not saying he should have known, but he’s a professional music reviewer. Even a quick google search is the bare minimum of research I’d expect him to do. Not to mention, the lyrics are so blatant, it’s hard not to imagine he had 0 inkling.
I think people are irritated cause he’ll criticize artists and people for comments that are bad, but when he does it it’s different. I could imagine Kanye West saying that about an artist and Fantano would rip him for it
I wouldn’t mind fantantos review if he actually reviewed the music and not her as a person or insult her issues. This isn’t a music review at this point. It’s just an attack on her. It’s not a music review at this point. It’s a hit piece
Halsey was diagnosed with Lupus and T cell disorder. She already suffers from Endometriosis, Anxiety, Bi-polar disorder, and Depression too. She also became a single mother because she was sick and thought she was going to pass and leave her child an orphan. There’s other stuff on the album as well but that’s the illness part of it
@@CatNagTaylorsVersion absolutely horrifying. Anxiety and depression are the closest I can relate too and saying relate is by the thinnest margins. I knew listening to it that it wasn’t anything in other albums, especially from such a popular artist
I loved this album personally, I think this speaks to a very human experience that we don’t hear from almost at all, especially in music. However I think that if you’re not part of the demographics that will go through or are going through it then I imagine this album is speaking in tongues,or gibberish. So while I think this is a 10/10 legendary, generation, revolutionary album I can see how people not in that demographic, especially straight men without children or any medical conditions may not like the album or think it’s putting much on the table for them. I just wish everyone would be respectful while reviewing it and I don’t think Fantano or pitchfork were reviewing it in great faith
@@CatNagTaylorsVersion I 100% get that, and while I didn’t review the album, any album I do review positive or negative is just my opinion and while I get experiences can influence opinions on albums 100%, you can’t fully brush off people who didn’t like the album as not in demographics, there are people who we all unknowingly are going through horrible stuff. I was more critical of the musicality of the album, as a concept and theme it’s incredibly personal and great
@@MusicMann1333 I’m not saying that people can’t like it if there not in the demographic, I’m also saying that people in the demographic have to love it. I’m saying that when it was being reviewed by Fantano and pitchfork in this case, they ether dug in on Halsey for having these illnesses or circumstances instead of trying to reach a point of understanding of what the album was made in. It’s the lack of respect that Ive seen with the people not in this demographic that I was hoping to call out with my comment
@ I can agree with that. Fantano and the pitchfork article writer was incredibly antagonistic towards her and the pitchfork writer did criticize musically her for stuff not on the album(couldve talked about that on the video but dumb me) sorry if I misconstrued your words.
@@MusicMann1333 I don’t think you did, I just think that I couldn’t convey my thoughts clearly while giving an album review. UA-cam reviewer Elijohn Macranas did a great review of the album, he opt’ed out of giving a in depth review of the subject as to not be ignorant on each subject but did give his knowledge on everything he could speak about. He did give the album a higher score than pitchfork and fantano. I will also say that I was a bit more crazy in that comment section with how great I do think the album is (it was posted very close to the albums release and I was passionate lol). Anyways besides the point the standards he set in his review of the album of being respectful about the subject matter was the standards I was hoping would be carried out by everyone
@ I’ll have to give that review a listen. Sounds interesting, and I’ve been passionate about albums as well, especially when it details something I can relate to, so I 100% get it. Love the discussion and glad you love and get so much out of the album! Do you have a favorite song from it?
I mean the whole main character syndrome is more about halsey trying to recreate other big artists sounds and not really nailing it? You can disagree with his opinion, but i don't think he meant it in a way of saying she's being dramatic or whatever
@@mint9610 that could be the case. I haven’t seen that argument mentioned(or at least prevalently shown somewhere) but it’s completely possible which is why I said I hoped it was something that could be explained
I watch Fantano for years and I disagree on a lot of his takes but I don’t think he deserves all the backlash for this review. Some of the critics he made were stupid but the reason why they were was because he came into the review uninformed about Halsey’s situation, which is understandable. The guy reviews hundreds and hundreds of albums, he consumes them very fast so he can cover everything that is going on in the music scene. Not everyone knew about the backstory and what Halsey went through, I didn’t know about it either until people mentioned it under his comment section.
@@peterstanchev3156 understandable, I didn’t know it either. BUT I will say to be incredibly bold in his criticism and comments and not to have researched it is asking for problems.
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I’m not saying he should have known, but he’s a professional music reviewer. Even a quick google search is the bare minimum of research I’d expect him to do. Not to mention, the lyrics are so blatant, it’s hard not to imagine he had 0 inkling.
@@wildwesley9328 respectable take
I think people are irritated cause he’ll criticize artists and people for comments that are bad, but when he does it it’s different. I could imagine Kanye West saying that about an artist and Fantano would rip him for it
I wouldn’t mind fantantos review if he actually reviewed the music and not her as a person or insult her issues. This isn’t a music review at this point. It’s just an attack on her. It’s not a music review at this point. It’s a hit piece
Halsey was diagnosed with Lupus and T cell disorder. She already suffers from Endometriosis, Anxiety, Bi-polar disorder, and Depression too. She also became a single mother because she was sick and thought she was going to pass and leave her child an orphan. There’s other stuff on the album as well but that’s the illness part of it
@@CatNagTaylorsVersion absolutely horrifying. Anxiety and depression are the closest I can relate too and saying relate is by the thinnest margins. I knew listening to it that it wasn’t anything in other albums, especially from such a popular artist
I loved this album personally, I think this speaks to a very human experience that we don’t hear from almost at all, especially in music. However I think that if you’re not part of the demographics that will go through or are going through it then I imagine this album is speaking in tongues,or gibberish. So while I think this is a 10/10 legendary, generation, revolutionary album I can see how people not in that demographic, especially straight men without children or any medical conditions may not like the album or think it’s putting much on the table for them. I just wish everyone would be respectful while reviewing it and I don’t think Fantano or pitchfork were reviewing it in great faith
@@CatNagTaylorsVersion I 100% get that, and while I didn’t review the album, any album I do review positive or negative is just my opinion and while I get experiences can influence opinions on albums 100%, you can’t fully brush off people who didn’t like the album as not in demographics, there are people who we all unknowingly are going through horrible stuff. I was more critical of the musicality of the album, as a concept and theme it’s incredibly personal and great
@@MusicMann1333 I’m not saying that people can’t like it if there not in the demographic, I’m also saying that people in the demographic have to love it. I’m saying that when it was being reviewed by Fantano and pitchfork in this case, they ether dug in on Halsey for having these illnesses or circumstances instead of trying to reach a point of understanding of what the album was made in. It’s the lack of respect that Ive seen with the people not in this demographic that I was hoping to call out with my comment
@ I can agree with that. Fantano and the pitchfork article writer was incredibly antagonistic towards her and the pitchfork writer did criticize musically her for stuff not on the album(couldve talked about that on the video but dumb me) sorry if I misconstrued your words.
@@MusicMann1333 I don’t think you did, I just think that I couldn’t convey my thoughts clearly while giving an album review. UA-cam reviewer Elijohn Macranas did a great review of the album, he opt’ed out of giving a in depth review of the subject as to not be ignorant on each subject but did give his knowledge on everything he could speak about. He did give the album a higher score than pitchfork and fantano. I will also say that I was a bit more crazy in that comment section with how great I do think the album is (it was posted very close to the albums release and I was passionate lol). Anyways besides the point the standards he set in his review of the album of being respectful about the subject matter was the standards I was hoping would be carried out by everyone
@ I’ll have to give that review a listen. Sounds interesting, and I’ve been passionate about albums as well, especially when it details something I can relate to, so I 100% get it. Love the discussion and glad you love and get so much out of the album! Do you have a favorite song from it?
she has chronic issues that give her pain and cancer thats why she thought she would die
@@KittyKat-di6us thank you for the info. That’s horrifying that she has that
@@KittyKat-di6uswhere did you find this information. I’m wanting to learn more since I only know Halsey for a few songs and this album
oh I just looked at interviews she’s done and watched D'Angelo Wallace video on the controversy
@ I don’t really watch D’Angelo Wallace but I’ll have to watch those interviews
I mean the whole main character syndrome is more about halsey trying to recreate other big artists sounds and not really nailing it? You can disagree with his opinion, but i don't think he meant it in a way of saying she's being dramatic or whatever
@@mint9610 that could be the case. I haven’t seen that argument mentioned(or at least prevalently shown somewhere) but it’s completely possible which is why I said I hoped it was something that could be explained
I watch Fantano for years and I disagree on a lot of his takes but I don’t think he deserves all the backlash for this review. Some of the critics he made were stupid but the reason why they were was because he came into the review uninformed about Halsey’s situation, which is understandable. The guy reviews hundreds and hundreds of albums, he consumes them very fast so he can cover everything that is going on in the music scene. Not everyone knew about the backstory and what Halsey went through, I didn’t know about it either until people mentioned it under his comment section.
@@peterstanchev3156 understandable, I didn’t know it either. BUT I will say to be incredibly bold in his criticism and comments and not to have researched it is asking for problems.