The History of Image Comics (So Much Damage) | Part 5: Legacies and Impact | SYFY WIRE

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  • @MudflapNichols
    @MudflapNichols 5 років тому +29

    I wish there was more about The Maxx in this. It was a truly groundbreaking and fantastic series. And anyone reading this that has not read Saga, NEEDS TO. Saga is perhaps the greatest thing ever! 👊👽🤘

  • @robertjacques6812
    @robertjacques6812 6 років тому +372

    Great series, do Dark horse next

    • @MGSBigBoss77
      @MGSBigBoss77 6 років тому +11

      ^THIS! Well said and stated.

    • @braylonrandle1731
      @braylonrandle1731 6 років тому +3

      Robert Jacques that would be awesome

    • @Optimus-Prime-Rib
      @Optimus-Prime-Rib 6 років тому +1

      Great idea!

    • @gabrielidusogie9189
      @gabrielidusogie9189 6 років тому +6

      Yesss. Hellboy and the Mignolaverse, Harrow County, Alien, Star Wars, etc....

    • @timothywillox8564
      @timothywillox8564 4 роки тому +1

      matt thomas They crushed it with their Star Wars legends books. Not to mention AVP

  • @PatrickBoberg
    @PatrickBoberg 6 років тому +338

    This was a fantastic series. Thank you SyFy.

    • @jadenjayson2826
      @jadenjayson2826 3 роки тому

      you all probably dont care at all but does anyone know a trick to log back into an instagram account..?
      I somehow forgot my account password. I appreciate any help you can offer me

    • @caidenvincenzo7718
      @caidenvincenzo7718 3 роки тому

      @Jaden Jayson Instablaster ;)

  • @matthewbrown6397
    @matthewbrown6397 6 років тому +113

    Awesome series! Very fun. My only "complaint" would be there seems to be a missing gap - When Joe Mad, Humberto Ramos, and J. Scott Campbell came along, under image to create the cliff hanger imprint. I remember the hype around their books (Battle Chasers, Crimson, and Danger girl) And although Crimson was the only book to arrive on time and finish, I really remember this time of image as a big moving forward point.

    • @gozinta82
      @gozinta82 5 років тому +1

      Who did Tank Girl? I remember that was a comic to movie deal.

    • @alexisvaracolacci2793
      @alexisvaracolacci2793 5 років тому +3

      Yeap! MAdureira and Campbell were cornerstones in the story and success of Image! Jeff Scott was the sidecick of Jim Lee

    • @reanetsemoleleki8219
      @reanetsemoleleki8219 4 роки тому +2

      I don't think this documentary was meant to be exhaustive.

    • @reanetsemoleleki8219
      @reanetsemoleleki8219 4 роки тому +3

      @@gozinta82 Tank Girl was created by Jamie Hewlett.

    • @gozinta82
      @gozinta82 4 роки тому

      @@reanetsemoleleki8219 Thank you :)

  • @bambam5000
    @bambam5000 6 років тому +63

    Fantastic stuff. Big applause to all involved. I hope more docs are on the way

  • @skadooshly
    @skadooshly 6 років тому +91

    This would make a good movie

    • @nikkosisowath4002
      @nikkosisowath4002 6 років тому +8

      There was a documentary made actually, giving alot of other details to the story
      Called ''The Image Revolution''

    • @DCMarvelMultiverse
      @DCMarvelMultiverse 6 років тому +6

      James Francovas Todd MacFarlane. Dave Franco as Rob Liefeld. John Cho as Jim Lee. Robbie Amell as Michael Turner. The baseball cap kid from Stranger Things as young Robert Kirkman.

    • @matthewknapp1092
      @matthewknapp1092 6 років тому +4

      Could be like The Social Network

    • @KTF0
      @KTF0 5 років тому +1

      @@DCMarvelMultiverse
      I'd put Christian Bale as Todd, other than that, it's perfect. I'd add the stories of Jack Kirby and previous creators as the context of the beginning.

    • @reanetsemoleleki8219
      @reanetsemoleleki8219 4 роки тому +1

      @@KTF0 isn't Christian Bale too old to play Todd in the 90's?

  • @TrueFaith94
    @TrueFaith94 6 років тому +14

    I'd love to see SYFY tackle the rise and fall of Valiant Comics

    • @revolutionday1
      @revolutionday1 4 роки тому +1

      Damn, I literally had forgotten all about Valiant!

  • @nsampone3
    @nsampone3 3 роки тому +5

    This doc and kirkman kinda breeze past invincible as not being all that important, but that’s a pretty huge f’n hit too in 2021. Two season renewal at the same time. Kirkman was on fire, back then

  • @DR.Barrit
    @DR.Barrit 6 років тому +90

    You forgot to mention to The Darkness in all this..

  • @hotdogthevender
    @hotdogthevender 5 років тому +9

    Great Documentary---only thing I feel like was missing was McFarlane Toys discussion. That played a large role, from my perspective anyway, in getting IMAGE to the masses as well. Was it his company that produced toys for all image? There were Young Blood, Wetworks, Savage Dragon toys. My dad bought a few of the comics, but it was really the Toys that captured my interest as a child

    • @Ishitonyou666
      @Ishitonyou666 3 роки тому

      I still have some McFarlane toys ! I even had those Horror Manaics and Aliens.

  • @AriaRedux
    @AriaRedux Рік тому +1

    Superb production! I can't believe I only just found this. This was super inspiring and really well crafted. Thank you SYFY!

  • @jizzz186
    @jizzz186 5 років тому +3

    i would never have found out about all these different comics if not for this series

  • @odinson99m
    @odinson99m 6 років тому +16

    Great series of videos. Very nostalgic. I lived it and boy did these interviews bring back memories.

  • @christiangaldencio297
    @christiangaldencio297 6 років тому +3

    This was a great series! Image absolutely changed the comics world and continues to do so. Thank you for making this.

  • @CBAGUIAR81
    @CBAGUIAR81 11 місяців тому

    Amazing series. These guys were like heroes to me back in the day. I still have Jim Lee's #1 X-men. Only on UA-cam I could see this extraordinary story. Thanks a lot SyFy

  • @rylecut
    @rylecut 6 років тому +2

    thanks for giving context to something that shaped my childhood

  • @Davy.J.Y
    @Davy.J.Y Рік тому +1

    What an amazing series. This is my third time watching it .

  • @realrecognisereviews
    @realrecognisereviews 6 років тому +4

    Great documentary, I only recently got into Image Comics kind of recently but my favourite (ongoing) titles are The Walking Dead, Saga, Kill Or Be Killed, Deadly Class and Lazarus.

  • @SteveKaraokeAus
    @SteveKaraokeAus 5 років тому +4

    This is such a great series - bravo to all involved and to my favourite publisher 👏👏👏

  • @AviddGeek
    @AviddGeek 6 років тому +3

    It feels as though this series leaves out a lot in terms of where things are now with the founders and their overall thoughts of the company in its current state

  • @johnshannon9656
    @johnshannon9656 6 років тому +8

    Modern day Image is very good...they do many things right...BUT...they don't maintain consistent releases AND too many creators abandon the stories mid-stream, e.g., Warren Ellis and Nick Spencer. I'm spent time and money on certain titles - "Trees", "They're Not Like Us", "The Nowhere Men", "Morning Glories" and they just stop without warning and either never publish again or do publish again with extremely long duration between releases. To be honest, as much as I enjoy Image's books, I tend to buy more titles now from AfterShock, Black Mask, BOOM!, Dark Horse, Oni Press, Vertigo and European publishers like Humanoids and 2000 AD. If I want superheroes, I read Valiant.

    • @bluespaceman7937
      @bluespaceman7937 6 років тому +4

      That is more about the creators and their discipline. It's a personal deal.

  • @guts2k3
    @guts2k3 6 років тому +9

    Thanks for this video :D kinda reminded me of the image revolution :)
    Kudos also to image for making me a comic book fan.

  • @israelleonchacon9291
    @israelleonchacon9291 6 років тому +19

    Why I didn't see Gen 13 or J. Scott Campbell???

    • @Wllfgang
      @Wllfgang 5 років тому

      Israel Leon Chacon causes there not part of image comics company

    • @Chalor.
      @Chalor. 5 років тому +8

      Irod draw
      They sure are. I'm looking at my Gen 13 comics right now from the 90's....and they were published by Image. Spawn and Gen 13 where the *biggest* comics by them at the time. Forget Wildcats, Pitt, Young Blood, Savage Dragon, Ripclaw, etc.

    • @oftenbanned
      @oftenbanned 4 роки тому +6

      I if I remember they were all part of wildstorm so they just sweep it in under Jim Lee...a shame they don't get credit for existing

  • @smygba
    @smygba 6 років тому +6

    This was an excellent series. Really.

  • @omen25901
    @omen25901 6 років тому +25

    I fell like writing now.

  • @DrexFactor
    @DrexFactor 6 років тому +55

    Y'all tackled the dramas with Liefeld and Lee, Larsen vs Valentino, but you don't cover McFarlane's treatment of Neil Gaiman? If you guys are going to cover Image as this creator-owned paradise, isn't it kind of intellectually dishonest to avoid dealing with the moments when the company failed to live up to that ideal?

    • @andrewb5334
      @andrewb5334 6 років тому

      Yeah, Todd's poor treatment of Gaiman was the first time I saw him for the colossal douche canoe egomaniac he comes across as. Todd is quite a businessman, but he doesn't really seem to care that he comes off as a colossal prick.

    • @jstnnnnn
      @jstnnnnn 6 років тому

      Dee Vee Interesting explanation! Never considered that! You're prolly spot on, too!

    • @matthewknapp1092
      @matthewknapp1092 6 років тому +4

      What happened between McFarlane and Gaiman then?

    • @rlamas4783
      @rlamas4783 6 років тому +1

      What happened between them

    • @anarchy030
      @anarchy030 6 років тому +3

      @@matthewknapp1092 Gaiman co-created Angela and McFarland cheated him out of his creator rights when he sold the character to Marvel years ago

  • @prestonjones1796
    @prestonjones1796 6 років тому +2

    WOW! JUST LOVED THE WAY THIS MADE ME FEEL. I NEED TO PICK UP SOME COMICS NOW AND WATCH A FEW NEW SHOWS

  • @rakkazoid
    @rakkazoid 6 років тому +2

    interesting story. good journalism. nice editing. enjoyable watch. thanks.

  • @murrayrodriguez878
    @murrayrodriguez878 4 роки тому +1

    Watched the whole series here! Great job, really cool and it made me want to finish my ideas

  • @therupoe
    @therupoe 5 років тому +1

    Image is my favorite comics distributor. Great series, thanks!

  • @ssagaji515
    @ssagaji515 6 років тому +5

    Saw all 5 parts that was awsomeeee

  • @ChrisDesatoff
    @ChrisDesatoff 6 років тому +2

    “Music mixed and mastered by Dave Draper”
    Is that THE DAVE DRAPER?!?! Bodybuilding legend from back in the day?

  • @talent103
    @talent103 6 років тому +3

    so what are rob liefield and Jim Valentino doing now? I always loved his book shadowhawk

  • @AL13NM
    @AL13NM 5 років тому +1

    The first 12 issues of W.I.L.D. Cats are my Favorite comics Ever!

  • @jeseramirez9852
    @jeseramirez9852 6 років тому +1

    Awesome series, bravo SYFY. Keep it comin

  • @Aerakade
    @Aerakade 6 років тому +7

    Great series. I'm going to have to assume Brubaker and Phillips weren't available as the only reason to not mention Criminal or their other works for image which have been some of the best pieces of art in ages.

  • @JoshFIG
    @JoshFIG 6 років тому +1

    Please release the entire 5 part as a blu ray or DVD that I can buy!

    • @thecrypticvenom
      @thecrypticvenom 4 роки тому

      or one mega video, this series was phenomenal

  • @outlawmateo
    @outlawmateo 6 років тому +1

    Really, really enjoyed this series.

  • @LilYaz001
    @LilYaz001 6 років тому +3

    Now I need to go see 'The Comic Book Greats' too

  • @thedarkness265754
    @thedarkness265754 6 років тому +1

    I was an avid reader of image comics back in 1994 to 1996. I was only 8 to 10. I never realised image was still killing it with the old board member until I saw this today.

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 Рік тому

      You'd have to be 8 to 10 to think Image was any good in 1994 😆 🤣 😂

  • @johnathanclark79
    @johnathanclark79 6 років тому +10

    Hey Syfy that was great next time talk about the impact that is Fantagraphics comics. They brought in the whole notion of creator own comics into the mainstream market. They did it in the 80s.

    • @mossadon
      @mossadon 6 років тому

      WHAT THIS MAN SAID !!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  • @cooldood84
    @cooldood84 6 років тому +1

    ahhhhh the 90's BEST DECADE EVERRRRRR

  • @barba_n
    @barba_n 4 роки тому +1

    thanks for this documentary, really liked it

  • @xipetotek8216
    @xipetotek8216 2 роки тому +1

    Bless Image comics. They are gods

  • @solidkingcobra
    @solidkingcobra 4 роки тому +3

    2nd time watching this video.
    you guys did a really great job.

  • @senseijuju
    @senseijuju 6 років тому +1

    Fantastic docu series!

  • @OH.A.M.
    @OH.A.M. 6 років тому +2

    I was there at the Golden Apple with my other 2 friends ditching school just to get signatures. BTW I have the Deathmate Gold sign with like 12 signatures.

  • @romyvanhandley6432
    @romyvanhandley6432 6 років тому +1

    Great series guys. Loved it!

  • @tedioustotoro4885
    @tedioustotoro4885 6 років тому

    I love how, when it listed all of the popular new series, I was like “ I already wanted almost all of those”

  • @witajy
    @witajy 5 років тому +1

    Great documentary series! I loved it ;))

  • @LightYagami-wt1jw
    @LightYagami-wt1jw 5 років тому +1

    Robert is a delight

  • @soopermexican
    @soopermexican 5 років тому +1

    great series, really enjoyed it.

  • @nailinmalin1719
    @nailinmalin1719 5 років тому +3

    I loved Image comics back in the 90s. I hate it now. It is absolutely disgusting to see what it has become. An absolute tragedy

  • @TriColoredTiger
    @TriColoredTiger 6 років тому +1

    Great series. Thanks

  • @uncool13
    @uncool13 5 років тому +2

    No mention of J. Scott Campbell years.

  • @GoldStandardGames
    @GoldStandardGames 6 років тому +2

    LONG LIVE IMAGE! POWER TO THE CREATORS!

  • @DarthVader-ep6wl
    @DarthVader-ep6wl 6 років тому +3

    What was the name of that SONG at the end of this video?

  • @TearyEyesAnderson
    @TearyEyesAnderson 4 роки тому +2

    Now let's hear the story of Dark Horse Comics, or maybe IDW.

  • @dqreps
    @dqreps 6 років тому +1

    Good show! Looking forward to the new Spawn movie! 💪💪💪

  • @simonjo5674
    @simonjo5674 6 років тому +1

    Great series. Brought back so many nostalgic memories...

  • @mosj9876
    @mosj9876 6 років тому +1

    thanks syfy. i feel a resurgence happening with Image.

  • @matthewknapp1092
    @matthewknapp1092 6 років тому

    This MUST be a movie

  • @ronmexico6901
    @ronmexico6901 Рік тому +1

    Where is that spawn movie?

  • @funeralbillii9172
    @funeralbillii9172 6 років тому +1

    GREAT little series, so informative, loved all of it, well, Liefeld, lol

  • @playabledance
    @playabledance 6 років тому +1

    Thank you for these videos

  • @drewtheunspoken3988
    @drewtheunspoken3988 2 роки тому +1

    I think had Image had someone early on who was capable of keeping the creators focused the comic book landscape today would be very different. But, history is what it is. We wouldn't have gotten The Walking Dead, Saga, or so many others.

  • @kennethking2147
    @kennethking2147 6 років тому

    Love this series. I really need to read their stuff.

  • @HeckaLives
    @HeckaLives 2 роки тому

    Monstress is so good. I can't even...

  • @fatmancomics
    @fatmancomics 5 років тому

    Good job. I also would like more docs on different companies.

  • @jakegrave261
    @jakegrave261 6 років тому

    thank you for posting !

  • @abiybattlespell8401
    @abiybattlespell8401 6 років тому +1

    really great thing to ink to, great show

  • @dunetiger
    @dunetiger 5 років тому +1

    The 2nd wave of Campbell and Ramos (among others) did so much more to propel Image forward than Portacio ever did. I'm sorry for his loss, but he didn't do a thing except be there when it happened.

    • @SouthPawArtist
      @SouthPawArtist 4 роки тому +1

      Sorry, but Portacio actually did a lot more than the audience is aware of, perhaps because they were of the behind-the-scenes type. One of these things -- and in my opionion, amongst the biggest he's contributed to Image (and actually, THE ENTIRE COMIC INDUSTRY) -- is his having a hand at widely implementing digital coloring @ Image, which somehow pressured Marvel & DC upgrade their books' colors & has since become the industry standard. Another thing is mentoring artists who would then be the next wave of artists for Wildstorm/Image, some of whom are now comicbook superstars.

  • @falconawesomeness1141
    @falconawesomeness1141 5 років тому

    Image is the best because its an image and reflection of people. Real people.

  • @theronmitchell3073
    @theronmitchell3073 6 років тому +4

    This was an awesome series and. Hope they do this again with dark horse and Valiant, but what makes me sad is that we will probably never see anything like this on Malibu because, their story has no Happy ending, a casulity of war, that has been forgotten. Very sad.

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 Рік тому

      They're forgotten because their comics sucked. Marvel bought them for their coloring.

  • @pedro7g5
    @pedro7g5 6 років тому +5

    "It's kinda funny that those books resided in the same umbrella" dude, that's the very definition of diversity...

    • @robertt9342
      @robertt9342 6 років тому +1

      pedro7g5 yet it's funny given how it started off.

  • @olincekongo
    @olincekongo 2 роки тому +1

    1:44 *He said it.*

  • @obliviondio
    @obliviondio 5 років тому +1

    Gen13 and Bone were the first comics after the founding comics that were sought after before walking dead

  • @turtleboost5524
    @turtleboost5524 3 роки тому

    Been reading Geiger and wanted to know more about image :)

  • @paulramos4037
    @paulramos4037 6 років тому +4

    Imagine if Alan Moore agreed to come back and write for Image. Never care about his so-called "tantrums".

  • @MrDealeronrocks
    @MrDealeronrocks 5 років тому

    Thank you for the Spawn Reboot, thank you

  • @beetheb
    @beetheb 5 років тому +7

    Loved the documentary, though I couldn't help but sigh a little at the end there when Kirkman talks about how the focus has become "hiring progressive voices for progressive books."
    If anything ends up finally killing off comics, it'll be the overt inclusion of partisan political propaganda. Guaranteed.

  • @joshmccoy1033
    @joshmccoy1033 6 років тому +1

    They missed touching on really ground breaking artists like Andy Park, Neil Gaiman, Billy Tan, Ron Marz, Scott Campbell and they breezed over Michael Turner like he was a speck...It was a informative documentary but I feel like it didn't paint the full picture, Image comics was even bigger than this documentary portrayed.

  • @drnockaable
    @drnockaable 6 років тому

    I still have a lot of those books

  • @dakotamike
    @dakotamike 5 років тому +2

    I liked it, but it really misses a LOT of stuff. Not really enough detail here to satisfy me.

  • @enrkm85
    @enrkm85 4 роки тому

    Never heard of saga, but it looks great

  • @nakmuay7705
    @nakmuay7705 6 років тому +11

    JawBreakers and Cyber Frog prove it - we don't need these companies anymore!

    • @allhailmegatron8043
      @allhailmegatron8043 6 років тому +7

      Cyber Frog- $431,621.00
      Jawbreakers- $361,180.00
      Red Rooster- $68,946.00 (in only 3 days so far)
      Indy is the best thing for the market. If a book sells, it continues to be made. If not, it goes away. Especially without a company propping it up (Marvel). Finally the costumer is in charge.

    • @talent103
      @talent103 6 років тому +3

      I thin that is the new wave. Though movies are doing great Comic Stores are closing and the medium is going to have to be reinvented in order to survive.

    • @ashearer88
      @ashearer88 5 років тому +1

      How are jaw breakers and cyber frog? Should i read them?

    • @pillar81
      @pillar81 5 років тому

      @@ashearer88 Cyberfrog is pretty decent. The issues that have been published that is. Ethan got all that money, but it seems the new work is just promises right now. As of my comment, the new Cyberfrog is pretty much the comicbook version of vaporware. I have seen nothing. If you haven't gotten Jawbreakers by this time, prepare to pay a pretty penny for it.

    • @RozarSmacco
      @RozarSmacco 5 років тому

      Ashearer 88 yes you should give them a chance. What you will find is ZERO politics and all action adventure and great art and stories.

  • @MetalHorrorGamer
    @MetalHorrorGamer 6 років тому

    Two Bio films i want to see... and they are about Id Software (Video Games) and Image Comics (Comics). If there were films about these two companies and if they were done right, I could die happy.

    • @Adrian_Stone
      @Adrian_Stone 6 років тому

      Metal_Horror_Gamer TBH you’d be lucky if they made a TV movie about either. I don’t think there’s a big enough hook with Image’s story, after all, how exciting is pencilling? (Maybe there’s an indie take you could do about the constant pressure of time using some inventive filmmaking). The guys even said it themselves - they could always go back to Marvel and some of them did (well, DC).
      id’s got a sexier angle with violence, but there’s already been films (see Daniel Radcliffe in Rockstar) about that aspect.

  • @breadhauz5732
    @breadhauz5732 6 років тому +10

    Wayward badly needs more attention.

    • @eon001
      @eon001 6 років тому

      Funny I jumped on the Image website to check out there current line and Wayward caught my eye. I'm going to check it out.

    • @theHumanBryno
      @theHumanBryno 6 років тому

      I like the series but I fell behind and haven't read in a while. I'll have to get caught up soon.

    • @MelMelodyWerner
      @MelMelodyWerner 6 років тому +2

      (I know I'm late but there are bigger gaps between the comments and this is pretty pertinent info)
      It's ending this year, which is both good and bad (good because it's the perfect time to catch up on it if you haven't already and it may open up the room for Zub/Cummings to do some other hit creator-owned series, bad because it's a fantastic book which didn't sell as well as it deserved to).

  • @R0bbathehutt
    @R0bbathehutt 4 роки тому +1

    Marc Silvestri looks like David Grohl now.

  • @ArkhitectProductions
    @ArkhitectProductions 5 років тому +2

    Wow, really....No mention of Jonathan Hickman's "East of West."

  • @Grail_Quest
    @Grail_Quest 5 років тому

    No mention of Jeff Matsuda or Todd Nauck?

  • @jackipepper1371
    @jackipepper1371 5 років тому +1

    Eric Stephenson looks like the Church Lady...

  • @lewlope2016
    @lewlope2016 6 років тому +1

    So what did Whilce do?

  • @uglyewok6715
    @uglyewok6715 Рік тому +3

    Paper Girls was cancelled😂😂😂

  • @Ishitonyou666
    @Ishitonyou666 3 роки тому +2

    Does Rob liefeld cut his own hair? Sheesh

  • @kristopherjones7997
    @kristopherjones7997 5 років тому

    Somebody besides MARVEL and DC are getting Recognition

  • @demonhd8437
    @demonhd8437 3 роки тому +2

    That one part “your not publishing women creators! Go find female creators”. Lol never mind if they’re talented.

  • @rockbarcellos
    @rockbarcellos 6 років тому +16

    Great series! Loved it. Just one comment though, the last part suggests that the whole progressive thing is being a successfull experience when it actually isn't...

    • @TheBashar327
      @TheBashar327 6 років тому +5

      Rock Barcellos , you are guilty of wrong think and wrong speech! Report to your nearest re'education camp. When you have changed genders, you will have been cured!

    • @bluespaceman7937
      @bluespaceman7937 6 років тому +5

      Actually, it has worked pretty well. Not all the time, nor with every book, but more than you think.

    • @poisoncontrol4488
      @poisoncontrol4488 6 років тому +1

      J G ha ha, no.

    • @theanti-hypemonitor9079
      @theanti-hypemonitor9079 6 років тому +1

      @@bluespaceman7937 gimme some examples, please. like no hostile intentions by me, i'd really like to know about some books that push these agendas where it actually "works"

    • @thecrypticvenom
      @thecrypticvenom 4 роки тому

      @@theanti-hypemonitor9079 saga and bitch planet

  • @bradthorne22
    @bradthorne22 5 років тому +1

    oh so there to cool for superheros now

  • @biker944
    @biker944 3 роки тому

    monsteress is great