I wish there was more about The Maxx in this. It was a truly groundbreaking and fantastic series. And anyone reading this that has not read Saga, NEEDS TO. Saga is perhaps the greatest thing ever! 👊👽🤘
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Awesome series! Very fun. My only "complaint" would be there seems to be a missing gap - When Joe Mad, Humberto Ramos, and J. Scott Campbell came along, under image to create the cliff hanger imprint. I remember the hype around their books (Battle Chasers, Crimson, and Danger girl) And although Crimson was the only book to arrive on time and finish, I really remember this time of image as a big moving forward point.
James Francovas Todd MacFarlane. Dave Franco as Rob Liefeld. John Cho as Jim Lee. Robbie Amell as Michael Turner. The baseball cap kid from Stranger Things as young Robert Kirkman.
@@DCMarvelMultiverse I'd put Christian Bale as Todd, other than that, it's perfect. I'd add the stories of Jack Kirby and previous creators as the context of the beginning.
This doc and kirkman kinda breeze past invincible as not being all that important, but that’s a pretty huge f’n hit too in 2021. Two season renewal at the same time. Kirkman was on fire, back then
Great Documentary---only thing I feel like was missing was McFarlane Toys discussion. That played a large role, from my perspective anyway, in getting IMAGE to the masses as well. Was it his company that produced toys for all image? There were Young Blood, Wetworks, Savage Dragon toys. My dad bought a few of the comics, but it was really the Toys that captured my interest as a child
Amazing series. These guys were like heroes to me back in the day. I still have Jim Lee's #1 X-men. Only on UA-cam I could see this extraordinary story. Thanks a lot SyFy
Great documentary, I only recently got into Image Comics kind of recently but my favourite (ongoing) titles are The Walking Dead, Saga, Kill Or Be Killed, Deadly Class and Lazarus.
It feels as though this series leaves out a lot in terms of where things are now with the founders and their overall thoughts of the company in its current state
Modern day Image is very good...they do many things right...BUT...they don't maintain consistent releases AND too many creators abandon the stories mid-stream, e.g., Warren Ellis and Nick Spencer. I'm spent time and money on certain titles - "Trees", "They're Not Like Us", "The Nowhere Men", "Morning Glories" and they just stop without warning and either never publish again or do publish again with extremely long duration between releases. To be honest, as much as I enjoy Image's books, I tend to buy more titles now from AfterShock, Black Mask, BOOM!, Dark Horse, Oni Press, Vertigo and European publishers like Humanoids and 2000 AD. If I want superheroes, I read Valiant.
Irod draw They sure are. I'm looking at my Gen 13 comics right now from the 90's....and they were published by Image. Spawn and Gen 13 where the *biggest* comics by them at the time. Forget Wildcats, Pitt, Young Blood, Savage Dragon, Ripclaw, etc.
Y'all tackled the dramas with Liefeld and Lee, Larsen vs Valentino, but you don't cover McFarlane's treatment of Neil Gaiman? If you guys are going to cover Image as this creator-owned paradise, isn't it kind of intellectually dishonest to avoid dealing with the moments when the company failed to live up to that ideal?
Yeah, Todd's poor treatment of Gaiman was the first time I saw him for the colossal douche canoe egomaniac he comes across as. Todd is quite a businessman, but he doesn't really seem to care that he comes off as a colossal prick.
Great series. I'm going to have to assume Brubaker and Phillips weren't available as the only reason to not mention Criminal or their other works for image which have been some of the best pieces of art in ages.
I was an avid reader of image comics back in 1994 to 1996. I was only 8 to 10. I never realised image was still killing it with the old board member until I saw this today.
Hey Syfy that was great next time talk about the impact that is Fantagraphics comics. They brought in the whole notion of creator own comics into the mainstream market. They did it in the 80s.
I was there at the Golden Apple with my other 2 friends ditching school just to get signatures. BTW I have the Deathmate Gold sign with like 12 signatures.
I think had Image had someone early on who was capable of keeping the creators focused the comic book landscape today would be very different. But, history is what it is. We wouldn't have gotten The Walking Dead, Saga, or so many others.
The 2nd wave of Campbell and Ramos (among others) did so much more to propel Image forward than Portacio ever did. I'm sorry for his loss, but he didn't do a thing except be there when it happened.
Sorry, but Portacio actually did a lot more than the audience is aware of, perhaps because they were of the behind-the-scenes type. One of these things -- and in my opionion, amongst the biggest he's contributed to Image (and actually, THE ENTIRE COMIC INDUSTRY) -- is his having a hand at widely implementing digital coloring @ Image, which somehow pressured Marvel & DC upgrade their books' colors & has since become the industry standard. Another thing is mentoring artists who would then be the next wave of artists for Wildstorm/Image, some of whom are now comicbook superstars.
This was an awesome series and. Hope they do this again with dark horse and Valiant, but what makes me sad is that we will probably never see anything like this on Malibu because, their story has no Happy ending, a casulity of war, that has been forgotten. Very sad.
Loved the documentary, though I couldn't help but sigh a little at the end there when Kirkman talks about how the focus has become "hiring progressive voices for progressive books." If anything ends up finally killing off comics, it'll be the overt inclusion of partisan political propaganda. Guaranteed.
They missed touching on really ground breaking artists like Andy Park, Neil Gaiman, Billy Tan, Ron Marz, Scott Campbell and they breezed over Michael Turner like he was a speck...It was a informative documentary but I feel like it didn't paint the full picture, Image comics was even bigger than this documentary portrayed.
Cyber Frog- $431,621.00 Jawbreakers- $361,180.00 Red Rooster- $68,946.00 (in only 3 days so far) Indy is the best thing for the market. If a book sells, it continues to be made. If not, it goes away. Especially without a company propping it up (Marvel). Finally the costumer is in charge.
I thin that is the new wave. Though movies are doing great Comic Stores are closing and the medium is going to have to be reinvented in order to survive.
@@ashearer88 Cyberfrog is pretty decent. The issues that have been published that is. Ethan got all that money, but it seems the new work is just promises right now. As of my comment, the new Cyberfrog is pretty much the comicbook version of vaporware. I have seen nothing. If you haven't gotten Jawbreakers by this time, prepare to pay a pretty penny for it.
Two Bio films i want to see... and they are about Id Software (Video Games) and Image Comics (Comics). If there were films about these two companies and if they were done right, I could die happy.
Metal_Horror_Gamer TBH you’d be lucky if they made a TV movie about either. I don’t think there’s a big enough hook with Image’s story, after all, how exciting is pencilling? (Maybe there’s an indie take you could do about the constant pressure of time using some inventive filmmaking). The guys even said it themselves - they could always go back to Marvel and some of them did (well, DC). id’s got a sexier angle with violence, but there’s already been films (see Daniel Radcliffe in Rockstar) about that aspect.
(I know I'm late but there are bigger gaps between the comments and this is pretty pertinent info) It's ending this year, which is both good and bad (good because it's the perfect time to catch up on it if you haven't already and it may open up the room for Zub/Cummings to do some other hit creator-owned series, bad because it's a fantastic book which didn't sell as well as it deserved to).
Great series! Loved it. Just one comment though, the last part suggests that the whole progressive thing is being a successfull experience when it actually isn't...
Rock Barcellos , you are guilty of wrong think and wrong speech! Report to your nearest re'education camp. When you have changed genders, you will have been cured!
@@bluespaceman7937 gimme some examples, please. like no hostile intentions by me, i'd really like to know about some books that push these agendas where it actually "works"
I wish there was more about The Maxx in this. It was a truly groundbreaking and fantastic series. And anyone reading this that has not read Saga, NEEDS TO. Saga is perhaps the greatest thing ever! 👊👽🤘
Great series, do Dark horse next
^THIS! Well said and stated.
Robert Jacques that would be awesome
Great idea!
Yesss. Hellboy and the Mignolaverse, Harrow County, Alien, Star Wars, etc....
matt thomas They crushed it with their Star Wars legends books. Not to mention AVP
This was a fantastic series. Thank you SyFy.
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Awesome series! Very fun. My only "complaint" would be there seems to be a missing gap - When Joe Mad, Humberto Ramos, and J. Scott Campbell came along, under image to create the cliff hanger imprint. I remember the hype around their books (Battle Chasers, Crimson, and Danger girl) And although Crimson was the only book to arrive on time and finish, I really remember this time of image as a big moving forward point.
Who did Tank Girl? I remember that was a comic to movie deal.
Yeap! MAdureira and Campbell were cornerstones in the story and success of Image! Jeff Scott was the sidecick of Jim Lee
I don't think this documentary was meant to be exhaustive.
@@gozinta82 Tank Girl was created by Jamie Hewlett.
@@reanetsemoleleki8219 Thank you :)
Fantastic stuff. Big applause to all involved. I hope more docs are on the way
This would make a good movie
There was a documentary made actually, giving alot of other details to the story
Called ''The Image Revolution''
James Francovas Todd MacFarlane. Dave Franco as Rob Liefeld. John Cho as Jim Lee. Robbie Amell as Michael Turner. The baseball cap kid from Stranger Things as young Robert Kirkman.
Could be like The Social Network
@@DCMarvelMultiverse
I'd put Christian Bale as Todd, other than that, it's perfect. I'd add the stories of Jack Kirby and previous creators as the context of the beginning.
@@KTF0 isn't Christian Bale too old to play Todd in the 90's?
I'd love to see SYFY tackle the rise and fall of Valiant Comics
Damn, I literally had forgotten all about Valiant!
This doc and kirkman kinda breeze past invincible as not being all that important, but that’s a pretty huge f’n hit too in 2021. Two season renewal at the same time. Kirkman was on fire, back then
well this was 2017
You forgot to mention to The Darkness in all this..
I was thinking that
Yep. Even Silvestri forgot
I still read the comics and play the games.
Great Documentary---only thing I feel like was missing was McFarlane Toys discussion. That played a large role, from my perspective anyway, in getting IMAGE to the masses as well. Was it his company that produced toys for all image? There were Young Blood, Wetworks, Savage Dragon toys. My dad bought a few of the comics, but it was really the Toys that captured my interest as a child
I still have some McFarlane toys ! I even had those Horror Manaics and Aliens.
Superb production! I can't believe I only just found this. This was super inspiring and really well crafted. Thank you SYFY!
i would never have found out about all these different comics if not for this series
Great series of videos. Very nostalgic. I lived it and boy did these interviews bring back memories.
This was a great series! Image absolutely changed the comics world and continues to do so. Thank you for making this.
Amazing series. These guys were like heroes to me back in the day. I still have Jim Lee's #1 X-men. Only on UA-cam I could see this extraordinary story. Thanks a lot SyFy
thanks for giving context to something that shaped my childhood
What an amazing series. This is my third time watching it .
Great documentary, I only recently got into Image Comics kind of recently but my favourite (ongoing) titles are The Walking Dead, Saga, Kill Or Be Killed, Deadly Class and Lazarus.
This is such a great series - bravo to all involved and to my favourite publisher 👏👏👏
It feels as though this series leaves out a lot in terms of where things are now with the founders and their overall thoughts of the company in its current state
Modern day Image is very good...they do many things right...BUT...they don't maintain consistent releases AND too many creators abandon the stories mid-stream, e.g., Warren Ellis and Nick Spencer. I'm spent time and money on certain titles - "Trees", "They're Not Like Us", "The Nowhere Men", "Morning Glories" and they just stop without warning and either never publish again or do publish again with extremely long duration between releases. To be honest, as much as I enjoy Image's books, I tend to buy more titles now from AfterShock, Black Mask, BOOM!, Dark Horse, Oni Press, Vertigo and European publishers like Humanoids and 2000 AD. If I want superheroes, I read Valiant.
That is more about the creators and their discipline. It's a personal deal.
Thanks for this video :D kinda reminded me of the image revolution :)
Kudos also to image for making me a comic book fan.
Why I didn't see Gen 13 or J. Scott Campbell???
Israel Leon Chacon causes there not part of image comics company
Irod draw
They sure are. I'm looking at my Gen 13 comics right now from the 90's....and they were published by Image. Spawn and Gen 13 where the *biggest* comics by them at the time. Forget Wildcats, Pitt, Young Blood, Savage Dragon, Ripclaw, etc.
I if I remember they were all part of wildstorm so they just sweep it in under Jim Lee...a shame they don't get credit for existing
This was an excellent series. Really.
I fell like writing now.
Do it. Now.
Looks like you need practice
Y'all tackled the dramas with Liefeld and Lee, Larsen vs Valentino, but you don't cover McFarlane's treatment of Neil Gaiman? If you guys are going to cover Image as this creator-owned paradise, isn't it kind of intellectually dishonest to avoid dealing with the moments when the company failed to live up to that ideal?
Yeah, Todd's poor treatment of Gaiman was the first time I saw him for the colossal douche canoe egomaniac he comes across as. Todd is quite a businessman, but he doesn't really seem to care that he comes off as a colossal prick.
Dee Vee Interesting explanation! Never considered that! You're prolly spot on, too!
What happened between McFarlane and Gaiman then?
What happened between them
@@matthewknapp1092 Gaiman co-created Angela and McFarland cheated him out of his creator rights when he sold the character to Marvel years ago
WOW! JUST LOVED THE WAY THIS MADE ME FEEL. I NEED TO PICK UP SOME COMICS NOW AND WATCH A FEW NEW SHOWS
interesting story. good journalism. nice editing. enjoyable watch. thanks.
Watched the whole series here! Great job, really cool and it made me want to finish my ideas
Image is my favorite comics distributor. Great series, thanks!
Saw all 5 parts that was awsomeeee
“Music mixed and mastered by Dave Draper”
Is that THE DAVE DRAPER?!?! Bodybuilding legend from back in the day?
so what are rob liefield and Jim Valentino doing now? I always loved his book shadowhawk
The first 12 issues of W.I.L.D. Cats are my Favorite comics Ever!
Awesome series, bravo SYFY. Keep it comin
Great series. I'm going to have to assume Brubaker and Phillips weren't available as the only reason to not mention Criminal or their other works for image which have been some of the best pieces of art in ages.
Please release the entire 5 part as a blu ray or DVD that I can buy!
or one mega video, this series was phenomenal
Really, really enjoyed this series.
Now I need to go see 'The Comic Book Greats' too
I was an avid reader of image comics back in 1994 to 1996. I was only 8 to 10. I never realised image was still killing it with the old board member until I saw this today.
You'd have to be 8 to 10 to think Image was any good in 1994 😆 🤣 😂
Hey Syfy that was great next time talk about the impact that is Fantagraphics comics. They brought in the whole notion of creator own comics into the mainstream market. They did it in the 80s.
WHAT THIS MAN SAID !!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ahhhhh the 90's BEST DECADE EVERRRRRR
thanks for this documentary, really liked it
Bless Image comics. They are gods
2nd time watching this video.
you guys did a really great job.
Fantastic docu series!
I was there at the Golden Apple with my other 2 friends ditching school just to get signatures. BTW I have the Deathmate Gold sign with like 12 signatures.
Great series guys. Loved it!
I love how, when it listed all of the popular new series, I was like “ I already wanted almost all of those”
Great documentary series! I loved it ;))
Robert is a delight
great series, really enjoyed it.
I loved Image comics back in the 90s. I hate it now. It is absolutely disgusting to see what it has become. An absolute tragedy
then you hate good comics
@@thecrypticvenomHe means SJW, m-she-u, the whole enchilada.
Great series. Thanks
No mention of J. Scott Campbell years.
LONG LIVE IMAGE! POWER TO THE CREATORS!
What was the name of that SONG at the end of this video?
Now let's hear the story of Dark Horse Comics, or maybe IDW.
Good show! Looking forward to the new Spawn movie! 💪💪💪
Great series. Brought back so many nostalgic memories...
thanks syfy. i feel a resurgence happening with Image.
This MUST be a movie
Where is that spawn movie?
GREAT little series, so informative, loved all of it, well, Liefeld, lol
Thank you for these videos
I think had Image had someone early on who was capable of keeping the creators focused the comic book landscape today would be very different. But, history is what it is. We wouldn't have gotten The Walking Dead, Saga, or so many others.
Love this series. I really need to read their stuff.
Monstress is so good. I can't even...
Good job. I also would like more docs on different companies.
thank you for posting !
really great thing to ink to, great show
The 2nd wave of Campbell and Ramos (among others) did so much more to propel Image forward than Portacio ever did. I'm sorry for his loss, but he didn't do a thing except be there when it happened.
Sorry, but Portacio actually did a lot more than the audience is aware of, perhaps because they were of the behind-the-scenes type. One of these things -- and in my opionion, amongst the biggest he's contributed to Image (and actually, THE ENTIRE COMIC INDUSTRY) -- is his having a hand at widely implementing digital coloring @ Image, which somehow pressured Marvel & DC upgrade their books' colors & has since become the industry standard. Another thing is mentoring artists who would then be the next wave of artists for Wildstorm/Image, some of whom are now comicbook superstars.
Image is the best because its an image and reflection of people. Real people.
This was an awesome series and. Hope they do this again with dark horse and Valiant, but what makes me sad is that we will probably never see anything like this on Malibu because, their story has no Happy ending, a casulity of war, that has been forgotten. Very sad.
They're forgotten because their comics sucked. Marvel bought them for their coloring.
"It's kinda funny that those books resided in the same umbrella" dude, that's the very definition of diversity...
pedro7g5 yet it's funny given how it started off.
1:44 *He said it.*
Gen13 and Bone were the first comics after the founding comics that were sought after before walking dead
Been reading Geiger and wanted to know more about image :)
Imagine if Alan Moore agreed to come back and write for Image. Never care about his so-called "tantrums".
Thank you for the Spawn Reboot, thank you
Loved the documentary, though I couldn't help but sigh a little at the end there when Kirkman talks about how the focus has become "hiring progressive voices for progressive books."
If anything ends up finally killing off comics, it'll be the overt inclusion of partisan political propaganda. Guaranteed.
They missed touching on really ground breaking artists like Andy Park, Neil Gaiman, Billy Tan, Ron Marz, Scott Campbell and they breezed over Michael Turner like he was a speck...It was a informative documentary but I feel like it didn't paint the full picture, Image comics was even bigger than this documentary portrayed.
I still have a lot of those books
I liked it, but it really misses a LOT of stuff. Not really enough detail here to satisfy me.
Never heard of saga, but it looks great
JawBreakers and Cyber Frog prove it - we don't need these companies anymore!
Cyber Frog- $431,621.00
Jawbreakers- $361,180.00
Red Rooster- $68,946.00 (in only 3 days so far)
Indy is the best thing for the market. If a book sells, it continues to be made. If not, it goes away. Especially without a company propping it up (Marvel). Finally the costumer is in charge.
I thin that is the new wave. Though movies are doing great Comic Stores are closing and the medium is going to have to be reinvented in order to survive.
How are jaw breakers and cyber frog? Should i read them?
@@ashearer88 Cyberfrog is pretty decent. The issues that have been published that is. Ethan got all that money, but it seems the new work is just promises right now. As of my comment, the new Cyberfrog is pretty much the comicbook version of vaporware. I have seen nothing. If you haven't gotten Jawbreakers by this time, prepare to pay a pretty penny for it.
Ashearer 88 yes you should give them a chance. What you will find is ZERO politics and all action adventure and great art and stories.
Two Bio films i want to see... and they are about Id Software (Video Games) and Image Comics (Comics). If there were films about these two companies and if they were done right, I could die happy.
Metal_Horror_Gamer TBH you’d be lucky if they made a TV movie about either. I don’t think there’s a big enough hook with Image’s story, after all, how exciting is pencilling? (Maybe there’s an indie take you could do about the constant pressure of time using some inventive filmmaking). The guys even said it themselves - they could always go back to Marvel and some of them did (well, DC).
id’s got a sexier angle with violence, but there’s already been films (see Daniel Radcliffe in Rockstar) about that aspect.
Wayward badly needs more attention.
Funny I jumped on the Image website to check out there current line and Wayward caught my eye. I'm going to check it out.
I like the series but I fell behind and haven't read in a while. I'll have to get caught up soon.
(I know I'm late but there are bigger gaps between the comments and this is pretty pertinent info)
It's ending this year, which is both good and bad (good because it's the perfect time to catch up on it if you haven't already and it may open up the room for Zub/Cummings to do some other hit creator-owned series, bad because it's a fantastic book which didn't sell as well as it deserved to).
Marc Silvestri looks like David Grohl now.
Wow, really....No mention of Jonathan Hickman's "East of West."
No mention of Jeff Matsuda or Todd Nauck?
Eric Stephenson looks like the Church Lady...
So what did Whilce do?
Paper Girls was cancelled😂😂😂
Does Rob liefeld cut his own hair? Sheesh
Somebody besides MARVEL and DC are getting Recognition
That one part “your not publishing women creators! Go find female creators”. Lol never mind if they’re talented.
Great series! Loved it. Just one comment though, the last part suggests that the whole progressive thing is being a successfull experience when it actually isn't...
Rock Barcellos , you are guilty of wrong think and wrong speech! Report to your nearest re'education camp. When you have changed genders, you will have been cured!
Actually, it has worked pretty well. Not all the time, nor with every book, but more than you think.
J G ha ha, no.
@@bluespaceman7937 gimme some examples, please. like no hostile intentions by me, i'd really like to know about some books that push these agendas where it actually "works"
@@theanti-hypemonitor9079 saga and bitch planet
oh so there to cool for superheros now
monsteress is great