@@ElectricStriker-mz5no clan games +tree n bushes(from both base)+monthly 100 gem +selling all crap magic item +event attack would give you like about 300-400gem per month(a max gem mine could give 150 gems)
Right! And most troop upgrades aren’t necessary. As in, you don’t use the troop. It’s just something to do. I use hammers on my favorite troops, or a potion if I need it. Not worth 8500 $85 for that guy.
The niche thing about the lab assistant that nobody seems to be talking about is the fact that if your army is composed of barely 5 troops and 4 spells per townhall, there is basically not much merit to be maxing him out UNLESS you are actively trying to max out your lab and your overall account to the max level. In other words, getting him past the first free level isn't worth it for casual players whose end goal is not to max out actively and is probably better to get some of the missed equipment instead.
Agreed....even tho i have all the equipments, still i might not consider upgrading assitant for the reason u said, on avg we might be using a few troops which would be our main troop comp.....so we can just max them in a few days or months (can even use a few hammers) after that there's really not much rush to upgrade the other less used troops
Apprentice builder is way better. It can save you almost 3 days on upgrading your hero. Better save your gems on 2025 Hammer Jam to buy builder potion, pet potion, lab potion, and goblins to maximize Hammer Jam.
@@itskiki4979 buddy there's a difference between using different armies to you know explore and enjoy different attacks....and having at least one army practiced and ready in hand for wars and stuff. So one can just use 1 army at war for a month or 2 meanwhile upgrading a 2nd army comp. Then like that the 3rd and so on. If someone can use 1 or 2 attacks very nicely, they dont need HURRY (henche not needed to spend that 12.5k gems) for many troops...and in time can just max most of the important troops if not all by the time next town hall comes.
that is true. usually when players hit new th level they just upgrade their most used troops\spells\siege machines with hammers and books they saved up before. rest of units are donation resource surprisingly he did not talk abt it in video
Most good attacks at th16 uses a boat load of different troops. It also allows you to use different type of attacks and not just be limited to 1 army. I guess if you only use electro spam then its probably not worth investing
@@spoodermun1722 hydra is a top attack and has been for a while, and uses dragon/dragon riders and like a yeti or balloon blimp bomb. Super witches is like 6 troop types and you won’t fail if your funnel baby dragon is a level or two too low. Warden fireball loon uses balloons and like 4 other troops.
that is exactly why i love it. it helps me create spacing between various upgrades as well so that i can have the gold ready instead of that builder having to sit idle cause im poor and not attacking frequently
Same thought, i stopped playing for a bit and now that i am back i need like 10k gems for everything. Another annoying me is not being able to really grind the new recourses (gems/ ores) thru attacks, which imo is the main thing about coc
The fact that we can buy lab potion form the raid shop makes imo lab assistant lower value than the builder one, since builder potions are more rare to get. Also, the fact that lab assistant has more lvls that make u invest more gems, and having equipment and ores buyable with gems plus we dont use all troops in the attacks, dont know man it seems not worth
*I think it's better if they should have put it next to Merchant and S.Troop house rather than making it an actual building to be destroyed.* *And besides they already do it with that "Goblin for Hire thing. So by doing this, the Scammer Trio will be completed in one area."*
If Supercell actually wanted to help players with lab progression, they should just put a second lab slot for upgrading. No Goblin research, no "pay to progress faster" trash. Lab times are a planned inconvinience in this game, and this is just another fast cash grab for Supercell.
Dumb logic... If somebody has extra gems it is 1 more FREE tool to progress faster, I played 4 different accounts (th14 to 16) and in neither of them had lab progress issue... And since ores were added, I am not even using medals for lab (otherwise would've been even faster), so ur crying over nothing
On the days saved 5:44, you should take into account the 5 builders, by example book of hero doesn’t save you 8 days per 500 gems but merely 1.6 total builder time. Same with book of building and fighting, building saves you 8.65/5 = 1.73 days skipped, where as you can only do 1 lab upgrade at a time so your actually saving 8.65 days
I am already at level 7 apprentice builder and I have dumped every single achievement gem into it ever since it was released. I don't have that many Achievements remaining to bump up this as well. Fingers crossed we get more Achievements with TH 17 update. 9:02 lol you should have said this 3 months ago.
New pet trainer! Invest up to 15,750 gems to this new assistant, and he will take off up to 24 hours of work in one hour for pet upgrades! Note: He has a chance to accidentally euthanize your pet... leading you to have to get a new one starting from level one! 😂
BRO NEVER PROCASTINATES!!!. As soon i saw the lab assistant, I knew BD was gonna make a comprehensive video about it. But it is a lotta work equations and charts and everything, Damn bro respect. If it was me I wud have put it off to the end of my priorities
nah, i wouldn't say to prioritize the lab assistant, because you won't need all the troops from the lab to do a successful attack, especially you have the power potion, for those rare case, most people will have their one or two attack strategy. and that's it however, you will need ALL the defenses to increase the win rate of a defense, regardless war / farm. and there is no potion to max your defenses. but as BD said, make your own judgement
My prefference is to do the apprentice builder first because life is way better when you have all heroes in max level. The lab is pretty useless after your main army upgrades are done, then the rest of the 90% is just incase you wanna play different things.
It really not worth unless you are a sweaty gamer The math is undeniable, but it's not everything. Another important aspect is how you play the games. Are you goin to play everyday for the next 3 years? Do you already have all the hero epic equipment? The presence of gems alone increase the quality of life while playing the games. I have lot of occasion which playing these games won't fit your schedule, gems allow you to tweak that Troop aren't ready war but you bout to get busy? Gems Upgrade bout to finish in 10 minutes but you won't be able to log in for another upgrade? Gems This is another important aspect to max efficiency imo
9:30 "You can actually queue upgrades for the builder's apprentice and the lab assistant now." That's a fantastic upgrade. The cooldown is 23 hours (which is why there's the fractional benefit), but many people likely just use it once a day. For myself, I can use it right when I wake up but unless I'm either waking up gradually earlier until I can stay up late enough to use it or waking up in the middle of the night, there's no reasonable way to get the maximum benefit out of it. Being able to queue the upgrades allows it to be used immediately when available.
As great as LA is, when you're maxed th16 with everything, you're better off saving gems and waiting for the next best thing because we'll finish all the new lab upgrades before every quarterly update with my guesstimate.
On a positive note at least we would get the apprentice builder away from the town hall. It was annoying having him so close to town hall that you always click on him rather than the itself.
This is what I figured out: Lab assistant will not directly reduce the time to half. For example, let's say an upgrade cost 4 days and you have max lab assistant. After Day 1: 4 - 1.5 = 2.5 days remaining After Day 2: 2.5 - 1.5 = 1 day remaining On day 3: 1 - 0.5 = 0.5 day remaining (not considering 23 hours cooldown, for simplicity assuming 24h cooldown) So, in total you can complete a 4-day upgrade in 2.5 days. increase = 4 - 2.5 / 4 = 37.5%
in practice there is always gonna be a bit of time you waste for example with not logging on whent the LA is available for about an hour or upgardes finishing erlier yes but in a prefect example he would skip exactly half of a day every day effectively halving the upgrade time
Thank you for the analytical videos as always. But I think when calculating the required days to catch up, you shouldn't take into account the free one hour upgrade. It should be done as follows: 500 gems saves you 12.5 days (300 hours) with goblin researcher or gives you an extra ~1hr per day with apprentice researcher. So to get back your 500 gems value, you would need 300 days. If you send 750 gems, you need 450 days, and if you spend 1000 gems, you need 600 days. There is no need to look at in a cumulative way since all the upgrades do the same thing (add 1 hour)
Does research potion stack with lab assistant? I think builder apprentice does with builder potion, so you get more value from builder apprentice if used at the same time as builder potion
Watching this video start to finish acting like I'm not a maxed out endgame player who has already maxed the builder apprentice and will definitely max the lab apprentice. Maybe I'm just watching to cope and convince myself it's value.
Same here bro maxed out Builder's Apprentice the day it came out with 6500 pack of gems now I am planning to get the same pack and get the lab assistant to level 10 and grind 2k gems manually to max him to level 12 😢
Dam i just got my builder apprentice to level 4 and now saving to progress him. Im an old school player just just recently returned about 6months ago so i spent the gems way backs when gems was the only thing you could put your real money towards. Back then i was free to play
You don't need all your troops,spells and siege machines maxed. Even for donating better levels to other people, from my experience, all it takes is a lot of research potions for raid medals to speed it up, and you're good.
Unlike the builder apprentice, the lab assistant isn't necessary. The builder assistant matters cos you, the player, will need to upgrade the entire village. There isn't such a desire with the lab. At max, you'll most likely level up 15 troops and spells per townhall level. You won't do more than that. If the builder assist. was a luxury, the lab assist is even more so 🤷🏽♂️
I don't get it how is it broken this lab assistant give only 12x speed for 1hr and how much it cost to 8000 gems how is this even fair. Meanwhile we can buy 3 research portion from shop with medel every week . Cheaper than lab assistant. 1 research portion gives 24x for 1hr
I honestly don't think it is proper to compare the lab assistant to the builder potion and book of builder. It would be much better to compare it with book of spells, book of fighting and research potion as lab assistant solely focused on troops and machines upgrade time rather than buildings. Hope you could make a new comparison with these basis.
Hey can you answer 1 question pls .... can we use hammer to upgrade the th to lvl 17?? Case like merge Canon and merge archer towers we couldn't use hammer.. should i buy the gold pass only to get a book of building?
I like this, a lot of people will say to just use 1 or 2 armies, but i prefer to have a lot of flexibility with armies. What's the point of maxing my base if i only have dragons to play with without having to buy power potions? I don't want to buy power potions, I'd rather get training potions and ores so i can have more fun attacking with all kinds of armies. Right now, I have only 2 maxed attacks with dragons and edrags as a th12, but my th11 lab was maxed so it's not too far behind at least. But i do want to use super witch and super bowler armies, yeti armies. These use all kinds of troops and I want them all to be strong without needing power potions. I'd rather save the potions for upgrading to a new th or for cwl if I need them, and sell excess ones.
Lab assistant is insane value. It is basically halving the upgrade time. But then again, maxing out the troops is not necessary. Some troops are not really that important to upgrade if they are not used in your attacks. Upgrading and maxing all the troop is something that you just happen to do. That's it. Like I usually finish upgrading my stuff like gowitch, super wall breaker, sneakies, haste, jump, lightning etc then I am done. Done for war and done for farming. The rest are just upgrades that I just do because the lab is available. Like archers and barbs for what? Super archer blimps and for super barbs for warden walks? Dragons, electro drags and dragon rider. Like what dragon rider even do? How are they even different from dragons? I don't upgrade those. I mean I upgrade those just to not let the research lab stay idle. That's it.
Numbers wise, I see that the goblin builder / helper is better, you should promote it more than the other ways to spend gems, builder apprentice and lab helper are nice but the value takes too long is not worth it as a new player or a player that is mid through the game compare to goblin builder. As well with goblin builder you can have 2 things upgrading in the lab and use a lab potion getting insane amount of value, idk if the lab assistant can focus on 2 things as well, so it would make the goblin builder / helper way more valuable.i am gonna keep my lab assistant at lvl 3 same as my builder apprentice and focus instead on goblin builder till I am max
Upgrading the assistance makes them upgrade faster. Supercell should make upgrading the builder's huts make builders upgrade faster too not only serve the purpose of defence.
So the best use of gems in the games is to unlock builders and upgrade upgrading assistance. In the future, a Pet Assistance might be added probably when Town Hall 18 is released.
Coming from a maxed TH 16… Don’t use gems for the apprentice or lab assistant. My builders have been sitting vacant forever. Why use 10,000 gems to slightly speed up a couple of troop upgrades. Use the gems on something more valuable.
If you are already maxed, your statement makes sense. From someone who is "only" lacking walls and some lesser important lab stuff, I still don't think I'll ever be maxed IF I don't buy the assistants. With a new town hall every 12 months now, I will not keep up
as a goldpass only kinda player im 100% maxing this guy asap without selling important magic items ofc. maxed the apprentice builder aswell as soon as i could
In simple words.... At max lab assistant make 50% less time ... Only free lvl will decrease 4.34% less time... It's good for mid lvl players to quickly catch up.... For high lvl players not so worthy as either they will gem (rich players) Or play slowly n take 8 months to 1 year to max eventually until th18 launch...
@@sunkymp3g12 It will not directly reduce the time to half if you think about it. For example, let's say an upgrade cost 4 days and you have max lab assistant. After Day 1: 4 - 1.5 = 2.5 days remaining After Day 2: 2.5 - 1.5 = 1 day remaining On day 3: 1 - 0.5 = 0.5 day remaining (not considering 23 hours cooldown, for simplicity assuming 24h cooldown) So, in total you can complete a 4-day upgrade in 2.5 days. increase = 4 - 2.5 / 4 = 37.5%
Hi bd, it's been very grateful watching your videos. I wanted you to make a video about the pets. Since I am a th 13, I am soon gonna be th14. So I wanted recommendation about to upgrade which pet, which pet not. And I also have no idea about them. Like I have idea about equipments just because of your videos and for that when I upgraded to th13, I didn't upgrade a single level on the default equipments of RC to not waste then since I am not gonna use then in upper th. So like this, it would be really helpful if you made a video of complete pets. Thanks
I personally really love these helper. I know it's super hard to max But also very beneficial builder apprentice really help me in hero upgrades. And I'm sure this lab assistant is also very important. Lab upgrades are actually consumed more time then builder upgrades. Even though I've got 7500 gem
You can think about apprentice builder and lab assistant like builder huts. At not point would you sacrifice a builder hut for gems for magic items. Same principal applies to any assistant that saves time and is permanent
@akhileshtambat9551 i dont think so because i invest all my hammer on labs, so even when its never be there, my labs will always finish first. I have th16 premature defends with max labs and max hero.
@@barasantoso1846 I see I am only a th-13 and for me I don't get selected in cwl much ,so this is going to be very helpful for me as I can max structures and lab at the same time
My war strategie is electro dragon, dragon, three spells they are maxed so even after the update it won’t take long to max lab assitent is a waste of gem I prefer the other scam and ironically clock tower from builder base is better than apprentace builder but it is only better than lab dude if you are upgrading two troops at a time i wish we can bring the clock tower to the main village instead of these and why can we upgrade only one troop at a time ? At th17 with new troops coming with every town hall we should be able to upgrade two troops at a time so you can choose which to boost otherwise just make him boost upgrading troops automatically it not that often to use lab goblin
@@rohithreddy75 you can get 160 gems at most from the games + a rune plus a few potions. If you sell all those potions, you might rach 210 at best. Selling a rune for 50 gems is stupid. 80 from the monthly season tracks? A book of heros at the end (shouldn't sell that one), two training potions at the beginning of the month # one clock tower potion. You can sell builder's elixir and builder's gold for 5 gems each, makes 10 gems per month. Same goes for capital gold and regular gold and elixir (again, shouldn't sell that). That makes ~50gems at best every month. Or are you talking about goldpass? Well, that is not F2P...
Let I am at th12 cost-3000gems Potion- 120 gems for reducing 24 hr. So I can get (3000/120)= 25 potion.which is (25*24)= 600hr. Lab a. can do 6hr per day so in 100 days I can complete 600 hr and for future upgrade it can be used . So yes it is helpful in this term. I didn't consider other factors.
This is basically 50% time reduction in all upgrades. Great value. Luckily I saved up my gems though I am kinda doubtful about this spending xD I don't really use too many tropps ehh
Like the apprentice builder it costs a lot of gems but since it is basically half of a research potion every day at max level it is definitely worth it.
Just came on to this channel, I'd like to give some feedback if that's ok. I love the information, but the editing around it makes it annoying when displaying information such as 1:35. Would prefer to remove the bouncy and wiggle animations so I can read the chart as you're explaining it. I understand you might do that to keep the video fun, but it detracts from the informative aspect of the video. Just my two cents. Thanks.
The lvl 12 LA will doesn't speed up your lab by 150% its 200% since it cuts 12 days from upgrades which is half which means that you can complete 2 days worth of upgrades in one
I think the BA is more important than the LA as every week we can get 3 lab potions with clan capital medals which basically skips 3 days of upgrade time but we can not get builder potions at that rate to skip build time
If you are rusher and not maxing you're lab,LA not worth it,but if you are maxing everything it totally worth it, because lab take so much time than the building upgrade
To speak in more frank term there is a new lab assistance and u should ipgrade him till the cost increases from the same amount to the apprentice builder then upgrade the apprentice builder till he reaches the same upgrade price as the apprentice builder and then repeat the same process
The assistants are just endgame cash grabs, if youre not gonna spend your money on gems to gem rush then spend them on these dudes that you wont need once you max and let alone every new update since theres less and less to upgrade each update bc of balancing issues.
I just spent 500 gems changing my name incorrectly and another 1000 to fix it. Along with all the gems spent on hammer jam I only have like 1500 left :/
He's speaking like we can afford it easily
Chat gpt 😢
I got 8k gems
@@ElectricStriker-mz5no clan games +tree n bushes(from both base)+monthly 100 gem +selling all crap magic item +event attack would give you like about 300-400gem per month(a max gem mine could give 150 gems)
I have 10k gems as f2p. You just have to not spend for a period of time
Right! And most troop upgrades aren’t necessary. As in, you don’t use the troop. It’s just something to do. I use hammers on my favorite troops, or a potion if I need it. Not worth 8500 $85 for that guy.
Ah yes another scammer as entered in the village
😂😂😂
This is not a scammer goblin builder is the scammer....lab assistant is one time and have good value but cost is main problem
it's not a ccam
Womp Womp
since they not in town hall no more I can finally get them out of my village and put them outside my walls
That jumping circle is the most annoying sht ever
What jumping circle?
7:01@@hardik6918
@@hardik6918 his circular frame of screen hopping when explaining the chart
@@Firerift-s6x Lmao I didn't notice it until see your comment.
Thank you I can't unsee it now 🤣
Pause
Next helper: the grandpa is going to help with pet house
Edit omg 50 likes
Next helper should be the Hero Trainer, a saytr to assist with hero upgrades, then pet grandpa (or cat lady)
Builder could be hammering on weapon outside house while saytr makes the hero do pushups 😂
@@OmegaZ777 The worst thing of all is that in some future you could be right, that new building opens the door to future assistants.
@danielparra9193 I think the builder apprentice existing already opened that door unfortunately.
Soon the pets will have equipment abilities
The niche thing about the lab assistant that nobody seems to be talking about is the fact that if your army is composed of barely 5 troops and 4 spells per townhall, there is basically not much merit to be maxing him out UNLESS you are actively trying to max out your lab and your overall account to the max level. In other words, getting him past the first free level isn't worth it for casual players whose end goal is not to max out actively and is probably better to get some of the missed equipment instead.
this
Agreed....even tho i have all the equipments, still i might not consider upgrading assitant for the reason u said, on avg we might be using a few troops which would be our main troop comp.....so we can just max them in a few days or months (can even use a few hammers) after that there's really not much rush to upgrade the other less used troops
Apprentice builder is way better. It can save you almost 3 days on upgrading your hero. Better save your gems on 2025 Hammer Jam to buy builder potion, pet potion, lab potion, and goblins to maximize Hammer Jam.
So casuals use only one army? How you don’t get bored lmao 🤣
@@itskiki4979 buddy there's a difference between using different armies to you know explore and enjoy different attacks....and having at least one army practiced and ready in hand for wars and stuff. So one can just use 1 army at war for a month or 2 meanwhile upgrading a 2nd army comp. Then like that the 3rd and so on. If someone can use 1 or 2 attacks very nicely, they dont need HURRY (henche not needed to spend that 12.5k gems) for many troops...and in time can just max most of the important troops if not all by the time next town hall comes.
Why do we need to max out lab assistants when we only use a few type of troops for battle
that is true. usually when players hit new th level they just upgrade their most used troops\spells\siege machines with hammers and books they saved up before. rest of units are donation resource
surprisingly he did not talk abt it in video
Well, it's satisfying to see the BA or LA max or, just flexing
i bet u spam edrags all day every day. seriously, whats the fun of the game that way?
Most good attacks at th16 uses a boat load of different troops. It also allows you to use different type of attacks and not just be limited to 1 army. I guess if you only use electro spam then its probably not worth investing
@@spoodermun1722 hydra is a top attack and has been for a while, and uses dragon/dragon riders and like a yeti or balloon blimp bomb. Super witches is like 6 troop types and you won’t fail if your funnel baby dragon is a level or two too low. Warden fireball loon uses balloons and like 4 other troops.
Apprentice builder is very important because you can adjust the timings, so upgrades don't finish when you're sleeping
The apprentice builder also helps with staggering upgrades. That way more than one upgrade won't finish at the same time.
He is important because he cuts down hero upgrade times by 1/3. 8 day upgrade finishes in roughly 5 days.
that is exactly why i love it. it helps me create spacing between various upgrades as well so that i can have the gold ready instead of that builder having to sit idle cause im poor and not attacking frequently
@paysmenot2624 ....ur still upgrading heros....participate in the raid weekends and buy hero potions.
Im never gonna buy the missed hero equipments
Same thought, i stopped playing for a bit and now that i am back i need like 10k gems for everything. Another annoying me is not being able to really grind the new recourses (gems/ ores) thru attacks, which imo is the main thing about coc
The fact that we can buy lab potion form the raid shop makes imo lab assistant lower value than the builder one, since builder potions are more rare to get. Also, the fact that lab assistant has more lvls that make u invest more gems, and having equipment and ores buyable with gems plus we dont use all troops in the attacks, dont know man it seems not worth
good point. that made me think twice. but what if I just level it to half? what do you think of that?
@ i will be upgrading it we i have excess gems, but lvl 4 - 6 is my goal to in the short term.
@@dlorentesantos apprentice builder is definitely worth it to max. i can use it on my hero and save almost 3 days
@ but, each of us should analize carefully how are we gonna expend gems, depends on the situation of each of us.
@ but personally, i would invest those gems in getting more starry ores, that nowadays is the rarest thing to get
Again Gems for assistance it sucks 😞😞 2:18
its just not that hard to grind gems
It is bro,especially if you're already a free to play th16
idk i think its fine
i don't need the assistants, i just have the apprentice builder because i don't gem upgrades.
First level is completely free
@@Stewie_griffin_the_original If you are th16 i don't think you need lab assistant coz you are close to highest th in the game
I like how bro counts everything in just seconds
Bro doesn't know that video can be edited😂
*I think it's better if they should have put it next to Merchant and S.Troop house rather than making it an actual building to be destroyed.*
*And besides they already do it with that "Goblin for Hire thing. So by doing this, the Scammer Trio will be completed in one area."*
Scammer trio 🤣
If Supercell actually wanted to help players with lab progression, they should just put a second lab slot for upgrading. No Goblin research, no "pay to progress faster" trash. Lab times are a planned inconvinience in this game, and this is just another fast cash grab for Supercell.
Facts!
Or instead, they could've just reduced the upgrade time for each upgrade and didn't have to add another scammer lmao
Dumb logic... If somebody has extra gems it is 1 more FREE tool to progress faster, I played 4 different accounts (th14 to 16) and in neither of them had lab progress issue... And since ores were added, I am not even using medals for lab (otherwise would've been even faster), so ur crying over nothing
why do people always call things to spend gems on cash grabs? You can just ignore this feature and play like it's not there
Or they could've made the upgrading builder hut levels decrease the upgrade times at higher town hall levels and future town hall levels.
On the days saved 5:44, you should take into account the 5 builders, by example book of hero doesn’t save you 8 days per 500 gems but merely 1.6 total builder time. Same with book of building and fighting, building saves you 8.65/5 = 1.73 days skipped, where as you can only do 1 lab upgrade at a time so your actually saving 8.65 days
I am already at level 7 apprentice builder and I have dumped every single achievement gem into it ever since it was released. I don't have that many Achievements remaining to bump up this as well. Fingers crossed we get more Achievements with TH 17 update. 9:02 lol you should have said this 3 months ago.
What if they add more levels in the future?
Also, a pet helper (or pet trainer) is definitely going to be added.
New pet trainer! Invest up to 15,750 gems to this new assistant, and he will take off up to 24 hours of work in one hour for pet upgrades!
Note: He has a chance to accidentally euthanize your pet... leading you to have to get a new one starting from level one!
😂
Unless the builder apprentice and lab assistant change to elixir upgrades I’m not buying/upgrading them
Same
BRO NEVER PROCASTINATES!!!.
As soon i saw the lab assistant, I knew BD was gonna make a comprehensive video about it.
But it is a lotta work equations and charts and everything,
Damn bro respect.
If it was me I wud have put it off to the end of my priorities
nah, i wouldn't say to prioritize the lab assistant, because you won't need all the troops from the lab to do a successful attack, especially you have the power potion, for those rare case, most people will have their one or two attack strategy. and that's it
however, you will need ALL the defenses to increase the win rate of a defense, regardless war / farm. and there is no potion to max your defenses.
but as BD said, make your own judgement
My prefference is to do the apprentice builder first because life is way better when you have all heroes in max level. The lab is pretty useless after your main army upgrades are done, then the rest of the 90% is just incase you wanna play different things.
It really not worth unless you are a sweaty gamer
The math is undeniable, but it's not everything. Another important aspect is how you play the games. Are you goin to play everyday for the next 3 years? Do you already have all the hero epic equipment?
The presence of gems alone increase the quality of life while playing the games. I have lot of occasion which playing these games won't fit your schedule, gems allow you to tweak that
Troop aren't ready war but you bout to get busy? Gems
Upgrade bout to finish in 10 minutes but you won't be able to log in for another upgrade? Gems
This is another important aspect to max efficiency imo
Next helper : helps train armies faster for 2 hours
Next help: helps train pets faster for 1 hour.
All good if it dont cost gems, even de would be worth it for that
Supercell: “We are giving to players a new black free working men” 😂💀
9:30 "You can actually queue upgrades for the builder's apprentice and the lab assistant now."
That's a fantastic upgrade. The cooldown is 23 hours (which is why there's the fractional benefit), but many people likely just use it once a day. For myself, I can use it right when I wake up but unless I'm either waking up gradually earlier until I can stay up late enough to use it or waking up in the middle of the night, there's no reasonable way to get the maximum benefit out of it. Being able to queue the upgrades allows it to be used immediately when available.
As great as LA is, when you're maxed th16 with everything, you're better off saving gems and waiting for the next best thing because we'll finish all the new lab upgrades before every quarterly update with my guesstimate.
On a positive note at least we would get the apprentice builder away from the town hall. It was annoying having him so close to town hall that you always click on him rather than the itself.
This is what I figured out:
Lab assistant will not directly reduce the time to half.
For example, let's say an upgrade cost 4 days and you have max lab assistant.
After Day 1: 4 - 1.5 = 2.5 days remaining
After Day 2: 2.5 - 1.5 = 1 day remaining
On day 3: 1 - 0.5 = 0.5 day remaining
(not considering 23 hours cooldown, for simplicity assuming 24h cooldown)
So, in total you can complete a 4-day upgrade in 2.5 days.
increase = 4 - 2.5 / 4 = 37.5%
in practice there is always gonna be a bit of time you waste for example with not logging on whent the LA is available for about an hour or upgardes finishing erlier yes but in a prefect example he would skip exactly half of a day every day effectively halving the upgrade time
@@Pancake-ue3rqit's automatic now it's in the vid
Thank you for the analytical videos as always.
But I think when calculating the required days to catch up, you shouldn't take into account the free one hour upgrade.
It should be done as follows:
500 gems saves you 12.5 days (300 hours) with goblin researcher or gives you an extra ~1hr per day with apprentice researcher.
So to get back your 500 gems value, you would need 300 days.
If you send 750 gems, you need 450 days, and if you spend 1000 gems, you need 600 days.
There is no need to look at in a cumulative way since all the upgrades do the same thing (add 1 hour)
Does research potion stack with lab assistant? I think builder apprentice does with builder potion, so you get more value from builder apprentice if used at the same time as builder potion
@@Chombiee No the builder apprentice isn't affected by the pots, so the lab assistant should be the same
No for both
Watching this video start to finish acting like I'm not a maxed out endgame player who has already maxed the builder apprentice and will definitely max the lab apprentice. Maybe I'm just watching to cope and convince myself it's value.
Same here bro maxed out Builder's Apprentice the day it came out with 6500 pack of gems now I am planning to get the same pack and get the lab assistant to level 10 and grind 2k gems manually to max him to level 12 😢
10:00 what about the equipments that needed for the new players
Dam i just got my builder apprentice to level 4 and now saving to progress him. Im an old school player just just recently returned about 6months ago so i spent the gems way backs when gems was the only thing you could put your real money towards. Back then i was free to play
I think the best change they added is the assigning of helpers, it makes it so much easier and more valuable now
You don't need all your troops,spells and siege machines maxed.
Even for donating better levels to other people, from my experience, all it takes is a lot of research potions for raid medals to speed it up, and you're good.
Unlike the builder apprentice, the lab assistant isn't necessary. The builder assistant matters cos you, the player, will need to upgrade the entire village. There isn't such a desire with the lab. At max, you'll most likely level up 15 troops and spells per townhall level. You won't do more than that. If the builder assist. was a luxury, the lab assist is even more so 🤷🏽♂️
you can save raid medals if you purchase resource potions from trader but what will you use the raid medals anyway for,maybe get extra glowy ores
Hi, would you recommend upgrading lab assistant and apprentice or getting epic equipment (new player, and I have 5 builders grinding 6th)
I don't get it how is it broken this lab assistant give only 12x speed for 1hr and how much it cost to 8000 gems how is this even fair.
Meanwhile we can buy 3 research portion from shop with medel every week . Cheaper than lab assistant. 1 research portion gives 24x for 1hr
@@shohan5576 yeah, I don't find it much helpful
yeah but LA lasts forever, he will be around TH21 with every day being a return of investment
Not everyone can afford 8000 jems for this investment
@@shohan5576 everyone can, it's just a matter of time you are willing to spend on saving for it
8.5k i way too pricy for this like hell nah
I am def not gonna put resources into this
I honestly don't think it is proper to compare the lab assistant to the builder potion and book of builder. It would be much better to compare it with book of spells, book of fighting and research potion as lab assistant solely focused on troops and machines upgrade time rather than buildings. Hope you could make a new comparison with these basis.
Bruh I literally just spent all my gems during hammer jam
Hey can you answer 1 question pls .... can we use hammer to upgrade the th to lvl 17?? Case like merge Canon and merge archer towers we couldn't use hammer.. should i buy the gold pass only to get a book of building?
I like this, a lot of people will say to just use 1 or 2 armies, but i prefer to have a lot of flexibility with armies. What's the point of maxing my base if i only have dragons to play with without having to buy power potions? I don't want to buy power potions, I'd rather get training potions and ores so i can have more fun attacking with all kinds of armies.
Right now, I have only 2 maxed attacks with dragons and edrags as a th12, but my th11 lab was maxed so it's not too far behind at least. But i do want to use super witch and super bowler armies, yeti armies. These use all kinds of troops and I want them all to be strong without needing power potions.
I'd rather save the potions for upgrading to a new th or for cwl if I need them, and sell excess ones.
The hidden fact is 8.5k gems needed for upgrade to max
wait, can we use both at the same time or just use one per day?
Lab assistant is insane value. It is basically halving the upgrade time.
But then again, maxing out the troops is not necessary. Some troops are not really that important to upgrade if they are not used in your attacks.
Upgrading and maxing all the troop is something that you just happen to do. That's it. Like I usually finish upgrading my stuff like gowitch, super wall breaker, sneakies, haste, jump, lightning etc then I am done.
Done for war and done for farming. The rest are just upgrades that I just do because the lab is available. Like archers and barbs for what? Super archer blimps and for super barbs for warden walks? Dragons, electro drags and dragon rider.
Like what dragon rider even do? How are they even different from dragons? I don't upgrade those. I mean I upgrade those just to not let the research lab stay idle. That's it.
Can you use both builder apprentice and lab assistant at the same time?
Numbers wise, I see that the goblin builder / helper is better, you should promote it more than the other ways to spend gems, builder apprentice and lab helper are nice but the value takes too long is not worth it as a new player or a player that is mid through the game compare to goblin builder. As well with goblin builder you can have 2 things upgrading in the lab and use a lab potion getting insane amount of value, idk if the lab assistant can focus on 2 things as well, so it would make the goblin builder / helper way more valuable.i am gonna keep my lab assistant at lvl 3 same as my builder apprentice and focus instead on goblin builder till I am max
Upgrading the assistance makes them upgrade faster. Supercell should make upgrading the builder's huts make builders upgrade faster too not only serve the purpose of defence.
So the best use of gems in the games is to unlock builders and upgrade upgrading assistance. In the future, a Pet Assistance might be added probably when Town Hall 18 is released.
Is it worth saving all gems for him, or is it better to spend 300 on one last goblin research with half cost from hammer jam and then start saving?
Coming from a maxed TH 16… Don’t use gems for the apprentice or lab assistant. My builders have been sitting vacant forever. Why use 10,000 gems to slightly speed up a couple of troop upgrades. Use the gems on something more valuable.
If you are already maxed, your statement makes sense. From someone who is "only" lacking walls and some lesser important lab stuff, I still don't think I'll ever be maxed IF I don't buy the assistants. With a new town hall every 12 months now, I will not keep up
I won't be suprised next update if tom from hayday goes to clash. Imagine paying tom to get magic items everyday
Well now I am holding on my gems 😂
as a goldpass only kinda player im 100% maxing this guy asap without selling important magic items ofc.
maxed the apprentice builder aswell as soon as i could
I only understood 20% of this video to much math bruv
If simple, he can skip a HALF of any lab upgrade at 12 lvl
Watch it 5 time
In simple words.... At max lab assistant make 50% less time ... Only free lvl will decrease 4.34% less time...
It's good for mid lvl players to quickly catch up.... For high lvl players not so worthy as either they will gem (rich players)
Or play slowly n take 8 months to 1 year to max eventually until th18 launch...
@@sunkymp3g12 It will not directly reduce the time to half if you think about it.
For example, let's say an upgrade cost 4 days and you have max lab assistant.
After Day 1: 4 - 1.5 = 2.5 days remaining
After Day 2: 2.5 - 1.5 = 1 day remaining
On day 3: 1 - 0.5 = 0.5 day remaining
(not considering 23 hours cooldown, for simplicity assuming 24h cooldown)
So, in total you can complete a 4-day upgrade in 2.5 days.
increase = 4 - 2.5 / 4 = 37.5%
It’s too early for this 😂
Hi bd, it's been very grateful watching your videos. I wanted you to make a video about the pets. Since I am a th 13, I am soon gonna be th14. So I wanted recommendation about to upgrade which pet, which pet not. And I also have no idea about them. Like I have idea about equipments just because of your videos and for that when I upgraded to th13, I didn't upgrade a single level on the default equipments of RC to not waste then since I am not gonna use then in upper th. So like this, it would be really helpful if you made a video of complete pets.
Thanks
Last thing they need now is the pet assistant
@@Just_gaming723 pet caretaker if terms are used or less bro will assist a lower life form 🤣
I personally really love these helper.
I know it's super hard to max
But also very beneficial builder apprentice really help me in hero upgrades.
And I'm sure this lab assistant is also very important.
Lab upgrades are actually consumed more time then builder upgrades.
Even though I've got 7500 gem
If we already own the builder apprentice are we going to be given the hut automatically or do we bave to buy the hut to get the builder back
buy the hut for 1.000.000 elixir and it takes no time to be built
You can think about apprentice builder and lab assistant like builder huts. At not point would you sacrifice a builder hut for gems for magic items. Same principal applies to any assistant that saves time and is permanent
How are we supposed to get all those gems for free?
Apreantice builder has much more value. Because we can use it to make hero upgrade faster. (For premature base)
Just use hero potions bro
But as he explained lab is the bottleneck. Both are really good and I think should be spent equal gems upon.
@akhileshtambat9551 i dont think so because i invest all my hammer on labs, so even when its never be there, my labs will always finish first. I have th16 premature defends with max labs and max hero.
@@barasantoso1846 I see I am only a th-13 and for me I don't get selected in cwl much ,so this is going to be very helpful for me as I can max structures and lab at the same time
Another costly gem i hope supercell will add more achievement to compensate or make the gem a little bit easier to obtain
😂 😂
So unlocking him is free but is unlocking the builder apprentice also free or does he still cost the 500 to unlock?
Hearing what he is saying:
MY MIND BE LIKE ::🤯👽
My war strategie is electro dragon, dragon, three spells they are maxed so even after the update it won’t take long to max lab assitent is a waste of gem I prefer the other scam and ironically clock tower from builder base is better than apprentace builder but it is only better than lab dude if you are upgrading two troops at a time i wish we can bring the clock tower to the main village instead of these and why can we upgrade only one troop at a time ? At th17 with new troops coming with every town hall we should be able to upgrade two troops at a time so you can choose which to boost otherwise just make him boost upgrading troops automatically it not that often to use lab goblin
I am thinking about those gems I wasted donating since donating with gems became a thing.
You could still get atleast 300 from clan games and minimum 80 if you sell all potions,resources etc from monthly season track and other ways.
@@rohithreddy75 you can get 160 gems at most from the games + a rune plus a few potions. If you sell all those potions, you might rach 210 at best. Selling a rune for 50 gems is stupid. 80 from the monthly season tracks? A book of heros at the end (shouldn't sell that one), two training potions at the beginning of the month # one clock tower potion. You can sell builder's elixir and builder's gold for 5 gems each, makes 10 gems per month. Same goes for capital gold and regular gold and elixir (again, shouldn't sell that). That makes ~50gems at best every month. Or are you talking about goldpass? Well, that is not F2P...
Let I am at th12 cost-3000gems
Potion- 120 gems for reducing 24 hr. So I can get (3000/120)= 25 potion.which is (25*24)= 600hr.
Lab a. can do 6hr per day so in 100 days I can complete 600 hr and for future upgrade it can be used . So yes it is helpful in this term. I didn't consider other factors.
This is basically 50% time reduction in all upgrades. Great value. Luckily I saved up my gems though I am kinda doubtful about this spending xD I don't really use too many tropps ehh
If you’re maxed already, are you really getting value? How many troops will need upgrades in TH17?
I remember what happened last time when you said that the lavaloon puppet is broken
Could have gotten a 7th builder with the increasing defenses but nope!
Like the apprentice builder it costs a lot of gems but since it is basically half of a research potion every day at max level it is definitely worth it.
Just came on to this channel, I'd like to give some feedback if that's ok. I love the information, but the editing around it makes it annoying when displaying information such as 1:35. Would prefer to remove the bouncy and wiggle animations so I can read the chart as you're explaining it. I understand you might do that to keep the video fun, but it detracts from the informative aspect of the video. Just my two cents. Thanks.
The lvl 12 LA will doesn't speed up your lab by 150% its 200% since it cuts 12 days from upgrades which is half which means that you can complete 2 days worth of upgrades in one
This guys are greedier than the freaking goblin.
They should just make the laboratory upgrade spell, troops and siege seperately
Feels good that I spent all my gems during hammer jam
You don't need to max every troops to attack . but need every building to defend your base
Just to avoid a 3*
The game slowly turning into clash royals 🤡 looks like now, it's all about money for them
Can I have your account then
All content creators at one side, his completely opposite side
How about we just stop having upgrade times...?
Then we wouldn't need books or potions for upgrading.
after the break even we get NEW LVL so GRIND GEMs
Assistant builder, lab, future: pet, assistant builder for the rest of the huts.... just a money grab u cant change my mind
Isnt that the point of the game?
You mean that nothing should come in the game and the game should never update itself. Damn ,that's crazy.
Im going to loose all my 7k gems and not even have him max 😭
I think the BA is more important than the LA as every week we can get 3 lab potions with clan capital medals which basically skips 3 days of upgrade time but we can not get builder potions at that rate to skip build time
If you are rusher and not maxing you're lab,LA not worth it,but if you are maxing everything it totally worth it, because lab take so much time than the building upgrade
Event with 3 research potion per week the lab wont catch it the building
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To speak in more frank term there is a new lab assistance and u should ipgrade him till the cost increases from the same amount to the apprentice builder then upgrade the apprentice builder till he reaches the same upgrade price as the apprentice builder and then repeat the same process
Bro should be a math professor. 🙂
The assistants are just endgame cash grabs, if youre not gonna spend your money on gems to gem rush then spend them on these dudes that you wont need once you max and let alone every new update since theres less and less to upgrade each update bc of balancing issues.
I would still rather upgrade the apprentice builder cause you have more build upgrades rather than troop or spell upgrades
I have a Max level Apprentice builder with 10k gems. I am ready for this new builder 💪
He’s also speaking like it’s easy to get all the resources needed for those upgrades when they are less spaced out
We have ishowspeed in clash of clans before GTA 6 0:52
I wasted a ton of gems on goblin builder and goblin lab upgrades during hammer jam💀
*ONLY IF I KNEW*
just sell ur kidney to max assistant
I spent all my gems in goblin builder and research while the hammer jam
I just spent 500 gems changing my name incorrectly and another 1000 to fix it. Along with all the gems spent on hammer jam I only have like 1500 left :/
I regret bout when I spent my all achievement gems on useless skin when we didn't have any equipment or any other apprentice
You're yourself to blame. Keep being unsatisfied and changing names. Try to be constant. Stick to one name. And control your nerves while typing
I spent 4k gems on goblin researcher this hammer jam 😢
@@ملحد-ل5ب great value bro
@@Bad3abdul I know but now I've to upgrade lab assistant so more gems will be needed 🥲
Few potion, hammers and books later…
You have a max army for a th in a month
Saving 8,500 gems
Now, can we finally use them both on the builder base