@@ytrewq12345 You are right, it would be beneficial for every Child on this Planet to have truthful, in depth History lessons. That´s how we learn from the past.
Germany still stands in for the cruelties that had been done in the past. This will never be forgotten. What does the USA with the people they enslaved? Remember Malcolm X and Martin Luther King? That's the good old american way to deal with problems. Instead of being on its knees, begging coloured people for forgiveness, the USA still threat these people like lower humans and put them for years in jail for the slightest fault.
unfortunately there is a big difference between the way things get portrayed when one government is destroyed and replaced by another as in Germany after the second world war and when the same government has to try and justify its future existence and why it was "never actually WRONG to do what it did, things just didnt work out well" as in japan after the same war. Germanys new government defined itself in opposition to the ideals of the former Nazi government it built a strong democracy and still prides itself on its opposition against the ideals of fascism and nationalism, memorializing its dark past as motivation to create a better future, that's a very powerful political narrative. the Japanese government on the other hand saw no such radical transformation, the same leaders, the same party, the same ideology. they just toned it down a bit and brushed everything they were ashamed of under the rug. both approaches create a very different way each society learns, understands and ultimately VOTES about its own government. And while i am nowhere near qualified on both nations modern politics to offer an opinion about their current states, the way that difference played out in their history immediately after the war is undeniable.
Evening Nate, it's me again. The old navy veteran from germany. I know exactly how it feels to be seen as the bad guys. When ever our destroyer sailed into a foreign harbor we were greeted with outright hate or cold ignorance. We were german sailors and therefor the baddies. Especially about 30 years after WW II. The same thing is now happening to your fellow military members and civillians and will surely apply to the russian people aswell after the ucraine war. 15 years of germany's over 2000 year old history deffined the worlds view on our country. Sad but understandable. Our job is to prove the world that they are wrong about us.
From your neighbours in the Netherlands i like Germanes they just had a really bad spat early in the 20 th century. My grandpa was a forced labour in one of the more bad work camps. Ordinairy Germans snuk in to feed them or they would have starved. And there was a death penalty for those Germanes who did that. So i was raised who the real Germanes where. And thats not the ones who where in charge in that period.
@@user-mj4nf9vk9u I wasn't disagreeing with you, I threw it in as an "add on" I have another, my sister was driving through France in the 1950s and had stones thrown at her while driving because it was a VW.
At least Nate you are starting to get your eyes opened and are willing to listen to other views than the American government wants you to believe, thanks
i am not gonna lie and for me as a german i know how it feel If your ancestors did terrible, terrible things. I know that this burden will always be on our shoulders the important question is how to deal with it. Unfortunately, I can see little to no reappraisal of their crimes in America...anyway as always nice video nate
Yep, '73 was my day of 'enlightenment', hence started reading a whole lot more. That resulted in my 'anti' stance, in particular the Isreal conflict, Chile, and the war on drugs... too many instances.
Hi Nate, thanks for sharing. As a german I always was thankful that the USA for freeing germany from the nazi-regime. My grandfather was rescued by american soldiers from concentration-camp Dachau where he was held as political prisoner. I love american music, films and most Americans I met where great guys. On the other hand I really hate the imperial mindset the USA has to the rest of america. And I found it scary how thoughtless the USA sent their young men into war on the other end of the world. Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan, none became better countries after all. The US-troops left those countries leaving a mess, the results can also be seen in europe where we have millions of refugees from those countries. It is sad to see because the USA has great potential doing so much better and I find it horrible that this overboarding patriotism (from a german view I would rather call it nationalism) prevent so many americans from criticizing the governments decisions. In my opinion critical thinking is the best way to improve your country.✌
So the Soviet Union, British, Canadians, ANZACZ, Free French, exiled soldiers from all over Europe didn't liberate Germany alongside the USA? I guess in your world The Americans did it all on their own
With the small difference that it was not the US Army that defeated the Nazis, but the Soviets who did the lion's share. In Stalingrad alone, as many Nazi soldiers fell as England, France and the USA killed on the Western Front combined. And the losses of the Soviets among their own armed forces alone were many times greater than the combined sacrifices made by the other parties to defeat the Nazis. I recommend watching the video "The Fallen of World War II", where it is illustrated.
If you find yourself looking for more American centered videos that will make you feel all sorts of ways, I suggest looking at a channel called Knowing Better
Hey Nate, came across your videos during Easter holidays, and I really like your approach of learning about the world and our society with those reactions! With this one I am a bit careful though, Second Thought always shows a lot of things that are undeniably true, but leaves out the bits that don't fit his story... as you say, there's no perfect country or system, and he tends to forget that on his channel (and being German, I certainly don't want to relativize any war crimes). Still, keep up the good work, looking forward to dive into your other videos!
Yeah, I've heard that from others as well. I've decided to hold off on any more reactions from his channel because he seems to be a little extreme, on the opposite side. Thanks for watching! 😀
Second thought doesnt focus on the crimes of other countries because the crimes of most countries tend to pale in comparison. He very much acknowledges that lots of countries have done bad things, and even the ones whos economies and policies he talks well about, he acknowledges they have their issues as well. There has been so much anti communist indoctrination in the west, and the blatantly false narratives we've been fed need to be debunked. We are all indoctrinated into the belief that capitalism is the best and only working system, and communism is evil and doesnt work. The truth is quite the opposite. Our world is facing the greatest existential threat humanity has seen since the inception of the nuclear bomb. We know how it works. We know how to fix it. But doing so would require an egalitarian world economy, and the rich would be no more. The rich dont want that, so we do nothing. Right now people are suffering in the global south due to the fact that it is in the best interest of the rich to keep them poor, desperate, and unable to build their own economy and infrastructure, so we can continue to extract resources for incredibly cheap. This makes them the most vulnerable to climate change. They are already feeling the effects. They are already dying. And we live lives of luxury at their expense. We cant keep living like this.
I dont think he forgets that at all. Its just clear that capitalism is one of the greatest forces for corruption and greed on this planet, and we would be better off with a different system. A system that we have been fed false narratives about from the moment we are born. Of course no socialist country has been perfect, but there has never been a time when capitalism did not result in profound levels of suffering for the majority of people living under it.
Chile didn't suffer alone on this one. In 1th of april of 1964, Brazil (my country) entered a military dictatorship that last until 1985. This happened because of the US sponsoring the dictatorship. Argentina, Bolívia, Paraguay, Uruguay also got dragged into this. This was know as "Operação Condor" (Operation Condor). People were tortured, exiled, "desapeared" and killed during this period, all because "there was a communist influence growing". If you want to know better about this, I sugest doing your own search, it's just too much to put in a coment
Hey Nate, lumps and bumps on the noggin looking a lot better. Hope the itching has sorted its life out. Interesting video. Dificult, but it must be interesting what with you having been to the 'outside' and looked back 'in'.
Quick question, there was a clip about white phosphorus where they explained that using it was a war crime, BUT a side effect of it is that it produces smoke, so the US uses it for just that purpose...since SMOKE cover is fine with Geneva Convention. So the US uses it in a way to smoke an area where the smoke drips white phosphorus which burns through EVERYTHING like rain. Have you had an experience with this or do you know anything about white phosphorus used as Smoke cover ?
While I can't answer your question, I feel like using white phosphorus as a smoke cover is like using agent orange to cut through dense vegetation. Sure, it might work, but at what cost?
Wow the native americans always been treated like savages, they were on their right to claim their lands. He forget to mention the Thanksgiving was an act of hypocresy because after that they stolen their lands and forced them to go other place, after México lost California during the Gold Rush in 1850 the natives from that state were also killed in fact I went to Natural History Museum of Los Angeles only was a small room about the original people from California y no sale of handcrafts that really dissapointed me During that period the Kikapoo asked from help to government of México and settled in Coahuila and were embraced as another natives from México🎉
okay so ive already left my own views regarding the video imn a comment but i also wanted to ask a question about the points made in the video regarding Nagasaki and Hiroshima, of course there is a well known debate about if it was a war crime or not and im not arguing that one way or another but i am curious how people on both sides of that argument would compare those instances with similar events during the war such as the allied bombing of Dresden for example? do both or indeed neither count as war crimes to you? does the use of a nuclear weapon itself change the equation for people? im genuinely curious to hear peoples opinion so please leave a reply :)
A bit harsh, re Korea ,it was started by the North invading the South, I have always thought of it as a "defensive" conflict. My understanding is that it was disease that killed so many of the native Americans-both-----North and South America.
you can talk geopolitical this and that all day long, we as a species, havent managed to get past simple social organisation yet, religion, nationalism, linguistic nuances, we dont need a reason to kill each other, we need one to stop.
I will take a different approach to this because partly, I do not know what is going on. I do know: The Laws of Physics do not CARE!!! Skyscrapers MUST support their own weight. The lower portion must be stronger than the upper portion. It must hold the structure as it sways in the wind. The 105th level of the North Tower only had to support 5 more levels. The 5th level had to support 105 levels, 21 times as many. Did level 105 contain the same amount of steel as level 5? Regardless of whether or not the airliner impact and fires could totally destroy the towers, when and where have "experts" demanded and discussed accurate data on the distribution of steel down the Twin Towers in *Two Decades* ??? And how it would affect the collapse time partly due to the Conservation of Momentum? Where is the data on the tons of steel and tons of concrete on each level, including the 6 basement levels? I don't care who the baddies are. Can't scientists and engineers, in the nation that put men on the Moon, do the physics?
what i think. hmm. as an american citizen who don't live there anymore, i agree that the americans did all that stuff, and will continue to do so as long as they can. what i've come to realize though is this good guy bad guy dichotomy not really helpful if one wants to understand humanity & why & how mass organizations of humans do what they do. any society that has ever achieved power & dominance in competition with others do the same things, albeit on different scales. america has done alota shit to alota people. but so has any other power. i think any country or culture would act similarly if they had the power economically & militarily that the u.s. has got. the strong do what they can & the weak suffer what they must. i believe that one is as true today as it was for thucydides.
Historically, all countries that have gained the power and might similar to the US has either destroyed themselves from the inside out (what I'm most afraid of) or have fallen due to war. Our advantage is our geographic location. However, every empire falls. I concur that looking at things through a dichotomous lens does a disservice. However, this video doesn't do that necessarily. It critiques the ideal of the US being "the greatest country in the world" and other superlatives usually unironically exclaimed by xenophobic jingoists. It's difficult for a lot of Americans to say, or even believe, that we are as flawed as we are great.
yeh, the whole greatest country in the world argument- american exceptionalism. hopefully the present state of affairs in the old new world is enough to debunk that myth. y'all gonna have a presidential election this year between a bombastic TV personality & a senile walking mummy. if these are the only choices that the greatest country in the world can come up with, then ya gotta question what greatness means altogether. your last sentence there kinda points to the reason why i would say that culturally speaking, america is one of the least fit countries to be a so called world leading power. the place is so isolated from the rest of the world that, to an american, the rest of the world ain't even real. its just something they see on TV. since wars end, america has done alota shit in alota corners of the globe, with little to no understanding of the consequences if its actions. to tell ya the truth, i don'T even feel totally comfortable talkin bout "america" these days. i left in 2010 & ain't been back since. whenever i talk to people on the phone over there it is clearly evident that the country is no longer the same place i left. i was born there. grew up there served in its army, got a university education there, but what i see n hear bout the things these days... i can't claim to understand the place or its peoples anymore.
I agree to all what has been said Except for the Palestinian Israel conflict. Let's wait until this conflict is over before we make a final judgment. The fact that there is a dark side to the American history doesn't turn The Nazis into Goodies. Nor do I feel "schadenfreude". We benefited from telling people the pain truths.
I think the video is a bit simplistic regarding the post-World War II era, at least. The USSR did the very same things, so this period was more about actions and counter-actions. Stalin was just a Hitler clone who was victorious, so the US was concerned about what happened next. This doesn't make it right, but it makes the actions "sort of comprehensible." As for the genocide of the natives - that's a colonial "tradition" in the worst sense of the word. Again, this doesn't make it right, but you have to see it in the context of the time period. Israel ... I think this geo-region is beyond fixable in any way or form at this point. Too much hate, too little will - combined with religious extremism. To be honest - I'm now more afraid of the future than during the Cold War. I'm quite convinced that, eventually, "somebody" will fire a nuke at the wrong place.
How about Chile, Haiti, Jim Crow laws, Iran Contra, response to 11 Sept, MKUltra, Paperclip, Philippines, Hawaii, Guatamala, Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, Puerto Rico, Cuba, the sterilizations, the syphilis testing, redlining, the placement of the highway system, Flint Michigan, nuclear testing sites, the Trail of Tears, War on Drugs, War on Crime, the Goon Squad, domestic terrorists, our response to covid, 2008 mortgage/financial crisis, our oligarchal relationship with Saudi Arabia, our healthcare system, our education system, And that's off the top of my head, lol. At what point do we stop giving ourselves a soft pass and start fixing our flaws, condemning our injustices and bad faith practices, & being better?
''The USSR did the very same things, so this period was more about actions and counter-actions. Stalin was just a Hitler clone who was victorious'' Can you provide some sources for this claim?
@@insanekos1 Are you serious? Just read the Wikipedia page about Stalin. e.g. Stalin's version of the Holocaust was the "Holodomor" - again - just consult Wikipedia. USSR vs USA ... for starters ... this was called the "cold war" for a reason.
@@klausschroiff4405 I did and there are no child specific concentration camps made by Soviets, ever. You said they are the same, now prove it. Funny how Holodomor was not considered genocide until 2014.
@@klausschroiff4405 Wikipedia is literally the worst source for information on political history. Some sectors of wikipedia can be reliable, but when it comes to issues as divided as the history of the ussr, wikipedia simply cannot be trusted. There is too much potential for biased disinformation. .
You do realize that when the Louisiana Purchase doubled the size of the country, we bought it from the Spanish who had slaughtered the indigenous population as well as Central and South America?
I'm not an americane but yes a lot of them also died of naturale causes of deceases we brought from europe. I'm a european, he is a bit one sided in his critique about the states. But he isn't wrong also most country's aren't much better. Difference is we know we wheren't better most americanes still believe the lie that their country is.
Not sure about the nuclear bombing. O i'm pretty sure what he is saying is partly true i just am happy they did it. It sounds horrible because it was it also prevented from ever using one of them in a war. So it is almost a certanty that it saved lives not that was the intention but he i take what i can get. The second iraqi war opend my eyes about the USA. I wouldn't believe they would start a war on just a lie (i wasn't naive enough to completly believe it but not that its was pure fiction). Ever since that war i looked up things up about the US myself and well it pretty much is as digusting a country as described here. To be fair my country (the Netherlands) wasn't much better i can argue there where a couple of good reasons for it but we still did it. Difference is we evolved not that we really good but at least not as bad anymore. Besides we aren't hypocriticale about it we acknowledges what we did was bad and now teach that in school.
he`s not wrong about being the world police, but fails to mention that if they don`t do it somebody else will take over that job. How that would play out nobody knows, but one thing is for sure Americans wouldn`t like it.
Good video (from you), bummer that the dude in the video you're reacting to, is so disingenuous in the way he presents things. It's frustrating to see when hand-picked details and stats are presented as the whole truth, not to mention the whole "if you're not my side, it's because you haven't educated yourself" ramble he briefly goes on towards the end. That's the tell-tale sign of someone who can't actually handle discussing the real topics, and just insists that "I'm right, you're wrong, and I know I'm right, because I'm right". PS. no I'm not American, I'm Danish. I just dislike when things are twisted to deliberately (but without stating so) showing the worst possible angle something can be seen from, and presents it as neutral information.
I disagree with Chile and Iran. Iran Iran got under the influence of the Soviet Union. The SU occupied area of Iran together with the UK and it did not want to give it back and founded states of the territory of Iran. This led to the Iran crisis of 1946. Left leaning is a very polite way to say communist and pro Stalin gouverment. Mossadegh might have been left leaning and more moderate but he was govern with the National Front which had also communist parties in it like the Tudeh party. Chile Allende was elceted because of a CIA coup in the first place. The CIA was involved in the kidnapping of the suprme commander Rene Schneider who tried to defend himself, got shot and died 3 days later. This was the reason the PDC (Christian Democratic Party of Chile) backed the election of Allende. Without this, Allende would not have been elected. And he was trying to make a country a socialist one which was not liked by the opposition and the PDC. As a socialist in the way of Marxism-Leninism ha had the backup of countries like the GDR and SU. Allende would have been removed anyway or he had to make the country in a dictatorship like the other communist or self claimed "socialist" countries. And the CIA was not involved in the coup. They financed these people yes but had nothing to do with planning and performing the coup. Alleende as a left radical politician put some harsh reforms on the country that went in the wrong direction. He did not have the majority of the parliament behind it anymore. He was presented like a martyr in the GDR after the coup and we all know what kind of gouverment this was. Allende made Pinochet to the supreme commander as a rersult of the stepping back of four mimnisters and the supreme commanders beforehand. Allende barely survived an attemd to de-eclet him. And I don't think that Pinochet was a faschist before the coup or at least it was not obvious otherwise Alleende would not have given him the power ove the army, wouldn't he?
Hi Nate! I have often thought about what would happen if all the countries that have been betrayed, warred against, and intimidated by the United States came together. I didn't know any of the numbers of people killed as a result of US interference, but actually the American natives and the nuclear strikes in Japan are enough to determine that the USA and their respective presidents are the greatest war criminals of all time. As a German, I can probably have a say, because we didn't cover ourselves with glory. I am very sad that the USA is not the country I once dreamed of. I love the different areas, with the beautiful but sometimes intimidating nature, I love American music from folk to heavy but I don't want to live there these days. And it's because of the people there (not all of them, but a lot of them). Too proud, too stupid and unable to see beyond his own horizons. A country that calls its own war dead heroes cannot be the future of the world. I would rather call these war dead victims, the first victims of their own governments and those in power. And now the next scary president is in the starting blocks, but no matter who wins, the first to suffer will be the US citizens and only then the rest of the world. But time has shown that every empire is doomed at some point and the USA and Russia have long since exceeded their half-life. Keep it up, show the world that there is also the “other” American. Fun fact. In my region there is a pastry that we call "American", thin, with icing, very sweet, tasty but not always good for your health. Stay healthy and don't let yourself be annoyed.
Be careful with second thought - he is a tankie. He was removed from Nebula for refusing to condemn Hamas killing civilians (AFAIK). His other friends also banned from nebula, ie. Hakim known for denying Iraqi war crimes against Kurdish people. He might be all too happy to condemn US imperialism and war crimes, but asking him to condemn Russia or China for the same things? thats another story. But dont take my word for it - google it yourself.
I didn't know and i won't take your word for it but it wouldn't suprise me. That second part of the nuclear bombs i haven't found real evidence that Japan was ready to surrender. Did found some that it was a good possibility but not like he stated it. The other parts while true was a bit one sided especially about the cold war part. Still this is a good piece for amreicanes to seriously watch they are actualy as bad as painted here. Keep in mind America also did a lot of reasonable "good" things and that all country's are basicly ammorall its just that the USA is so hypocriticale about it and the americanes actualy believe it.
Correction, he refused to fall in line with condemning Hamas full-stop. That's the US slight of hand trick to gaslight everyone into accepting the atrocities Israel has been and continues to commit against the Palestinian people who had no part nor power in the Hamas attack. If you condemn Hamas, it's further justification for turning a blind eye to what's been happening for decades in Gaza & the West Bank. While, if you condemn Israel, you're antisemitic. Let's not capitulate to propaganda. If we can freely condemn Hamas, Germany, Japan, Russia, China, ISIS, the Taliban, Iran, N. Korea, etc., then we should also be able to freely condemn France, Canada, Australia, Britain, the US and all of our allies. As the age-old question goes, who polices the police?
@@arturobianco848 Keep in mind, that emperor announced surrender without ever mentioning the word surrender, and still after two nukes were dropped there was a coup attempt when hard-liners found out there was going to be surrender.
Nate, every country has colonised and dominated others, and committed genocide. The difference is the way the USA so stubbornly clings to their "angel" narrative while the rest of the world knows the truth. I'm Canadian. We genocided the Indigenous that preceeded us. We acknowledge our wrongs and work daily to try and make amends.
Yet we all still happily accept the benefits from the exploitation of those in the global south, due to US imperialism and neocolonialism which is still going on today.
Admitting we were wrong would also mean admitting that the things we continue to do to this day are wrong. We would have to let other countries determine their own future, and eventually allow the world to realize that the narrative weve been fed about the evils of socialism is a lie. If we let socialist countries be socialist, and didnt sanction them until they bend the knee, they might actually succeed and prosper. The rich cannot allow people to realize thats possible.
its a very interesting and important topic but the original video leaves far too much unsaid for my liking, i understand then need to try and be as succinct as possible in UA-cam videos but when dealing with such an important and divisive topic ensuring the historical context is given is vital and unfortunately is far too lacking in this video, its a great way to find topics to read more about but if you try to win an argument with the narratives portrayed here and you will soon find yourself looking like an idiot. that said as a brit it has always been rather funny to me that Americans keep being so outraged by election interference by other nations, every country in Europe has had to put up with the American government trying to influence its allies democratic process let alone its enemies, look no further than Brexit if you want to see what happens when the US government interferes in other peoples politics on behalf of US business interests that stood to make more money by the UK moving away from the EU market and towards the American market. and we are supposed to be Americas "closest ally" everyone this side of the pond understands that the nature of our "special relationship" usually involves us bending over and grabbing our ankles for the US interests. that's just the cost of doing business with America. personally i do wish he had included a few more modern examples like the whole "burn pit" saga, America is patting itself on the back for recognising what those pits did to their own soldiers but go back to non us news reports at the time and the global outrage was regarding the villages and civilian populations the military set up those pits next to, usually then locking down said villages with roadblocks in the interest of "controlling movement" to make identification of insurgents easier. still no acknowledgement of the countless civilians that died due to respiratory illness and increased cancer rates nor any acknowledgement of the dramatic and immediate increase in death rates of children in those villages. now half acknowledging what happened to their own people while ignoring the effects that many civilians still have to live with to this day only serves to brush the whole matter under the rug in the public memory "burn pits? we already dealt with that, no need to think about it further". America may have claimed to go to war to stop "extremism" but during the war they created more extremists by abusing the local population than ever existed before they invaded, take a look at the records of the "terrorist" groups the military was targeting over the course of the war. the number of Islamic extremist groups only went up during the conflict regardless of how quickly the US military killed them. and this is not a new phenomenon the exact same thing happened during the crusades as each side only learned from the ever increasing brutality of the tactics used.
JT Chapman, better known as Second Thought, is an American socialist commentator and educational UA-camr. Initially a scientific educational project, the channel is most widely known for producing videos on various political topics from a Marxist Socialist perspective.
I would say go and have major brain surgery yourself and see how you look afterwards, but you lack the essential part for brain surgery to be conducted on...
What does that mean? We already experience diversity firsthand. Even places trying to kill DEI, gender studies, and their wacky idea of CRT are experiencing diversity despite themselves...which is probably why they want to kill all of the diversity programs and ship asylum seekers off to other states. Even the Daily Wire has diversity. 😅
The original video is extremely biased. I could make the same kind of video,bashing Russia,Great Britain,France,Germany,Belgium,Turkey,Mongolia etc etc. for what their ancestors did throughout history. Americans shouldn't feel guilty for past mistakes.
That's kind of the point. Every country has done terrible things in their history. The problem is that Americans don't think they've done anything wrong, ever, and that they are always on the righteous side. That's where I have an issue. And you're right, we shouldn't feel guilty of what our ancestors may have done, but we need to understand what they did in order to not repeat their mistakes.
Shouldn't they at least feel guilty for PRESENT mistakes? God knows there are plenty of those: genocide in Gaza, slaughter in Ukraine, and reckless warmongering in Taiwan, just to name those actually occurring before our eyes in real time. So long as Americans keep pretending we're heroes instead of sadistic, self-deluded children, we're going to stay in this suicidal death spiral - and that's not something I want to see.
@@NateLawson I've never seen a single American unironically say their country is perfect all the time even when talking about history. Twitter and social media in general don't count as evidence. I'm talking about in real life here when I say that. Saying all Americans think their country has never done anything wrong ever is just a strawman argument with barely any factual basis. Whenever I see videos with titles that say "America is the REAL bad guy", they usually are filled with factual inaccuracies and exaggerations to push a one-sided agenda that doesn't align with history. And some reactors just gobble it up without questioning the original video with even simple Google searches because why waste time searching things up to verify stuff when you can just "react" to it and steal the original video to make a quick and easy buck.
Of course. guilt for your ancestors' actions and non-actions is not required. But is required to know about and teach the younger generations about it. Make amends if possible and prevent the repetition of history. It's absolutely necessary to acknowledge ALL parts of your history. Don't glorify the good parts and most important lift the carpet and sweep the bad parts into the light of day.
@@NateLawson Yup thats the only real problem i have with america and its starting to hurt you. Its not just poisaning the rest of the world but your own country much harder. Because while we aren't any better at least we sort of learned from it. America or americanes don't because they still believe the lie.
America is not the main reason ww2 has been won, it only joined once it was attacked at Pearl Harbor (Japan really did a number on the Navy there). Thats lazy for usa to join so late, america also committed many war crimes
mwah i don't know what kind of history they teach in India but that is not true , the reason Russia could do what it did was because of material support of the allied axis otherwise Russia would be German ,..... The subsequent occupation by Russia of eastern Europe did not bring prosperity to keep it diplomatic .... And by won the war I meant the Cold war
The sad truth is that the people in the US who should watch this video will never do so....
True AMERICANS understand. The brainwashed ones still glorify it.
Just the fact that you think some need to watch because the others already know is horrifying....
All should watch.
All should learn.
All are guilty.
@@ytrewq12345 You are right, it would be beneficial for every Child on this Planet to have truthful, in depth History lessons.
That´s how we learn from the past.
Nate: "it's gonna be tough"
Every German since 1945: "Hold my beer. I'll show you how to deal with something like that."
...and yet somehow they find themselves financing and supporting another genocide less than a century later.
Germany still stands in for the cruelties that had been done in the past. This will never be forgotten. What does the USA with the people they enslaved? Remember Malcolm X and Martin Luther King? That's the good old american way to deal with problems. Instead of being on its knees, begging coloured people for forgiveness, the USA still threat these people like lower humans and put them for years in jail for the slightest fault.
unfortunately there is a big difference between the way things get portrayed when one government is destroyed and replaced by another as in Germany after the second world war and when the same government has to try and justify its future existence and why it was "never actually WRONG to do what it did, things just didnt work out well" as in japan after the same war.
Germanys new government defined itself in opposition to the ideals of the former Nazi government it built a strong democracy and still prides itself on its opposition against the ideals of fascism and nationalism, memorializing its dark past as motivation to create a better future, that's a very powerful political narrative.
the Japanese government on the other hand saw no such radical transformation, the same leaders, the same party, the same ideology. they just toned it down a bit and brushed everything they were ashamed of under the rug.
both approaches create a very different way each society learns, understands and ultimately VOTES about its own government. And while i am nowhere near qualified on both nations modern politics to offer an opinion about their current states, the way that difference played out in their history immediately after the war is undeniable.
Most of the time the US defend against people who didn't attack them.
Most of the time the US upends the people who didn't capitulate to them and their capitalistic whims. I fixed it for you.
Thank you for showing this.
It’s devastating.
Evening Nate, it's me again. The old navy veteran from germany. I know exactly how it feels to be seen as the bad guys. When ever our destroyer sailed into a foreign harbor we were greeted with outright hate or cold ignorance. We were german sailors and therefor the baddies. Especially about 30 years after WW II.
The same thing is now happening to your fellow military members and civillians and will surely apply to the russian people aswell after the ucraine war.
15 years of germany's over 2000 year old history deffined the worlds view on our country.
Sad but understandable.
Our job is to prove the world that they are wrong about us.
From your neighbours in the Netherlands i like Germanes they just had a really bad spat early in the 20 th century. My grandpa was a forced labour in one of the more bad work camps. Ordinairy Germans snuk in to feed them or they would have starved. And there was a death penalty for those Germanes who did that. So i was raised who the real Germanes where. And thats not the ones who where in charge in that period.
I'm not sure if it's true but I was told that the first German cargo ship to arrive in Liverpool after the war was greeted by a brass band. !!
@@user-gm5fg8in1j That nicht be true but I was a member of the german navy. So our ship was a destroyer not a Cargo vessel.😉
@@user-mj4nf9vk9u I wasn't disagreeing with you, I threw it in as an "add on" I have another, my sister was driving through France in the 1950s and had stones thrown at her while driving because it was a VW.
Hi nate,
Your are a great Person.
Thank you for your Courage to Take this topic.
the Winners write history
Greetings from germany ❤❤
At least Nate you are starting to get your eyes opened and are willing to listen to other views than the American government wants you to believe, thanks
i am not gonna lie and for me as a german i know how it feel If your ancestors did terrible, terrible things. I know that this burden will always be on our shoulders the important question is how to deal with it. Unfortunately, I can see little to no reappraisal of their crimes in America...anyway as always nice video nate
We teach the bad parts of our history here but people love to ignore that and paint the US as a villain when it isn't true.
Yep, '73 was my day of 'enlightenment', hence started reading a whole lot more. That resulted in my 'anti' stance, in particular the Isreal conflict, Chile, and the war on drugs... too many instances.
Hi Nate, thanks for sharing. As a german I always was thankful that the USA for freeing germany from the nazi-regime. My grandfather was rescued by american soldiers from concentration-camp Dachau where he was held as political prisoner. I love american music, films and most Americans I met where great guys. On the other hand I really hate the imperial mindset the USA has to the rest of america. And I found it scary how thoughtless the USA sent their young men into war on the other end of the world. Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan, none became better countries after all. The US-troops left those countries leaving a mess, the results can also be seen in europe where we have millions of refugees from those countries. It is sad to see because the USA has great potential doing so much better and I find it horrible that this overboarding patriotism (from a german view I would rather call it nationalism) prevent so many americans from criticizing the governments decisions. In my opinion critical thinking is the best way to improve your country.✌
So the Soviet Union, British, Canadians, ANZACZ, Free French, exiled soldiers from all over Europe didn't liberate Germany alongside the USA?
I guess in your world The Americans did it all on their own
With the small difference that it was not the US Army that defeated the Nazis, but the Soviets who did the lion's share. In Stalingrad alone, as many Nazi soldiers fell as England, France and the USA killed on the Western Front combined. And the losses of the Soviets among their own armed forces alone were many times greater than the combined sacrifices made by the other parties to defeat the Nazis.
I recommend watching the video "The Fallen of World War II", where it is illustrated.
@@MortusVanDerHell Sure, I know the stats, but I am thankful for all that were involved. Russians, Brits, US, Canadians, France, Canada am
If you find yourself looking for more American centered videos that will make you feel all sorts of ways, I suggest looking at a channel called Knowing Better
Some More News is great too!
Thank you! I'll check it out.
Hey Nate, came across your videos during Easter holidays, and I really like your approach of learning about the world and our society with those reactions! With this one I am a bit careful though, Second Thought always shows a lot of things that are undeniably true, but leaves out the bits that don't fit his story... as you say, there's no perfect country or system, and he tends to forget that on his channel (and being German, I certainly don't want to relativize any war crimes). Still, keep up the good work, looking forward to dive into your other videos!
Yeah, I've heard that from others as well. I've decided to hold off on any more reactions from his channel because he seems to be a little extreme, on the opposite side. Thanks for watching! 😀
Second thought doesnt focus on the crimes of other countries because the crimes of most countries tend to pale in comparison. He very much acknowledges that lots of countries have done bad things, and even the ones whos economies and policies he talks well about, he acknowledges they have their issues as well. There has been so much anti communist indoctrination in the west, and the blatantly false narratives we've been fed need to be debunked. We are all indoctrinated into the belief that capitalism is the best and only working system, and communism is evil and doesnt work. The truth is quite the opposite. Our world is facing the greatest existential threat humanity has seen since the inception of the nuclear bomb. We know how it works. We know how to fix it. But doing so would require an egalitarian world economy, and the rich would be no more. The rich dont want that, so we do nothing. Right now people are suffering in the global south due to the fact that it is in the best interest of the rich to keep them poor, desperate, and unable to build their own economy and infrastructure, so we can continue to extract resources for incredibly cheap. This makes them the most vulnerable to climate change. They are already feeling the effects. They are already dying. And we live lives of luxury at their expense. We cant keep living like this.
I dont think he forgets that at all. Its just clear that capitalism is one of the greatest forces for corruption and greed on this planet, and we would be better off with a different system. A system that we have been fed false narratives about from the moment we are born. Of course no socialist country has been perfect, but there has never been a time when capitalism did not result in profound levels of suffering for the majority of people living under it.
Chile didn't suffer alone on this one. In 1th of april of 1964, Brazil (my country) entered a military dictatorship that last until 1985. This happened because of the US sponsoring the dictatorship. Argentina, Bolívia, Paraguay, Uruguay also got dragged into this.
This was know as "Operação Condor" (Operation Condor). People were tortured, exiled, "desapeared" and killed during this period, all because "there was a communist influence growing".
If you want to know better about this, I sugest doing your own search, it's just too much to put in a coment
Hey Nate, lumps and bumps on the noggin looking a lot better. Hope the itching has sorted its life out.
Interesting video. Dificult, but it must be interesting what with you having been to the 'outside' and looked back 'in'.
I'm healing up nicely! It's actually starting to itch a little, but that just means my nerves are starting to grow back. 😀
Sometimes and at some places the answer is a very real; "YES!"
Never forget, Vietnam, Iraq, Grenada, Cuba, etc... And the anti labor movement. And the Civil War! And the actual lack of gun restricting laws...
Quick question, there was a clip about white phosphorus where they explained that using it was a war crime, BUT a side effect of it is that it produces smoke, so the US uses it for just that purpose...since SMOKE cover is fine with Geneva Convention. So the US uses it in a way to smoke an area where the smoke drips white phosphorus which burns through EVERYTHING like rain. Have you had an experience with this or do you know anything about white phosphorus used as Smoke cover ?
While I can't answer your question, I feel like using white phosphorus as a smoke cover is like using agent orange to cut through dense vegetation. Sure, it might work, but at what cost?
Wow the native americans always been treated like savages, they were on their right to claim their lands. He forget to mention the Thanksgiving was an act of hypocresy because after that they stolen their lands and forced them to go other place, after México lost California during the Gold Rush in 1850 the natives from that state were also killed in fact I went to Natural History Museum of Los Angeles only was a small room about the original people from California y no sale of handcrafts that really dissapointed me
During that period the Kikapoo asked from help to government of México and settled in Coahuila and were embraced as another natives from México🎉
okay so ive already left my own views regarding the video imn a comment but i also wanted to ask a question about the points made in the video regarding Nagasaki and Hiroshima, of course there is a well known debate about if it was a war crime or not and im not arguing that one way or another but i am curious how people on both sides of that argument would compare those instances with similar events during the war such as the allied bombing of Dresden for example? do both or indeed neither count as war crimes to you? does the use of a nuclear weapon itself change the equation for people?
im genuinely curious to hear peoples opinion so please leave a reply :)
A bit harsh, re Korea ,it was started by the North invading the South, I have always thought of it as a "defensive" conflict. My understanding is that it was disease that killed so many of the native Americans-both-----North and South America.
You should watch GDF's video on the Korea War for that. There were skirmishes the north and south took part in long before the official war started.
I don't think you want my opinion on the US. I do however appreciate you. You're a good man. I hope you leave the US before disaster strikes.
you can talk geopolitical this and that all day long, we as a species, havent managed to get past simple social organisation yet, religion, nationalism, linguistic nuances, we dont need a reason to kill each other, we need one to stop.
I will take a different approach to this because partly, I do not know what is going on. I do know:
The Laws of Physics do not CARE!!!
Skyscrapers MUST support their own weight. The lower portion must be stronger than the upper portion. It must hold the structure as it sways in the wind.
The 105th level of the North Tower only had to support 5 more levels. The 5th level had to support 105 levels, 21 times as many. Did level 105 contain the same amount of steel as level 5?
Regardless of whether or not the airliner impact and fires could totally destroy the towers, when and where have "experts" demanded and discussed accurate data on the distribution of steel down the Twin Towers in *Two Decades* ??? And how it would affect the collapse time partly due to the Conservation of Momentum? Where is the data on the tons of steel and tons of concrete on each level, including the 6 basement levels?
I don't care who the baddies are. Can't scientists and engineers, in the nation that put men on the Moon, do the physics?
what i think. hmm. as an american citizen who don't live there anymore, i agree that the americans did all that stuff, and will continue to do so as long as they can. what i've come to realize though is this good guy bad guy dichotomy not really helpful if one wants to understand humanity & why & how mass organizations of humans do what they do. any society that has ever achieved power & dominance in competition with others do the same things, albeit on different scales.
america has done alota shit to alota people. but so has any other power. i think any country or culture would act similarly if they had the power economically & militarily that the u.s. has got.
the strong do what they can & the weak suffer what they must. i believe that one is as true today as it was for thucydides.
Historically, all countries that have gained the power and might similar to the US has either destroyed themselves from the inside out (what I'm most afraid of) or have fallen due to war. Our advantage is our geographic location. However, every empire falls. I concur that looking at things through a dichotomous lens does a disservice. However, this video doesn't do that necessarily. It critiques the ideal of the US being "the greatest country in the world" and other superlatives usually unironically exclaimed by xenophobic jingoists. It's difficult for a lot of Americans to say, or even believe, that we are as flawed as we are great.
yeh, the whole greatest country in the world argument- american exceptionalism. hopefully the present state of affairs in the old new world is enough to debunk that myth. y'all gonna have a presidential election this year between a bombastic TV personality & a senile walking mummy. if these are the only choices that the greatest country in the world can come up with, then ya gotta question what greatness means altogether.
your last sentence there kinda points to the reason why i would say that culturally speaking, america is one of the least fit countries to be a so called world leading power. the place is so isolated from the rest of the world that, to an american, the rest of the world ain't even real. its just something they see on TV. since wars end, america has done alota shit in alota corners of the globe, with little to no understanding of the consequences if its actions.
to tell ya the truth, i don'T even feel totally comfortable talkin bout "america" these days. i left in 2010 & ain't been back since. whenever i talk to people on the phone over there it is clearly evident that the country is no longer the same place i left. i was born there. grew up there served in its army, got a university education there, but what i see n hear bout the things these days... i can't claim to understand the place or its peoples anymore.
I agree to all what has been said Except for the Palestinian Israel conflict. Let's wait until this conflict is over before we make a final judgment.
The fact that there is a dark side to the American history doesn't turn The Nazis into Goodies. Nor do I feel "schadenfreude". We benefited from telling people the pain truths.
When did he say the nazis were the goodies?
I think the video is a bit simplistic regarding the post-World War II era, at least. The USSR did the very same things, so this period was more about actions and counter-actions. Stalin was just a Hitler clone who was victorious, so the US was concerned about what happened next. This doesn't make it right, but it makes the actions "sort of comprehensible."
As for the genocide of the natives - that's a colonial "tradition" in the worst sense of the word. Again, this doesn't make it right, but you have to see it in the context of the time period.
Israel ... I think this geo-region is beyond fixable in any way or form at this point. Too much hate, too little will - combined with religious extremism.
To be honest - I'm now more afraid of the future than during the Cold War. I'm quite convinced that, eventually, "somebody" will fire a nuke at the wrong place.
How about Chile, Haiti, Jim Crow laws, Iran Contra, response to 11 Sept, MKUltra, Paperclip, Philippines, Hawaii, Guatamala, Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, Puerto Rico, Cuba, the sterilizations, the syphilis testing, redlining, the placement of the highway system, Flint Michigan, nuclear testing sites, the Trail of Tears, War on Drugs, War on Crime, the Goon Squad, domestic terrorists, our response to covid, 2008 mortgage/financial crisis, our oligarchal relationship with Saudi Arabia, our healthcare system, our education system, And that's off the top of my head, lol. At what point do we stop giving ourselves a soft pass and start fixing our flaws, condemning our injustices and bad faith practices, & being better?
''The USSR did the very same things, so this period was more about actions and counter-actions. Stalin was just a Hitler clone who was victorious''
Can you provide some sources for this claim?
@@insanekos1 Are you serious?
Just read the Wikipedia page about Stalin.
e.g. Stalin's version of the Holocaust was the "Holodomor" - again - just consult Wikipedia.
USSR vs USA ... for starters ... this was called the "cold war" for a reason.
@@klausschroiff4405 I did and there are no child specific concentration camps made by Soviets, ever. You said they are the same, now prove it. Funny how Holodomor was not considered genocide until 2014.
@@klausschroiff4405 Wikipedia is literally the worst source for information on political history. Some sectors of wikipedia can be reliable, but when it comes to issues as divided as the history of the ussr, wikipedia simply cannot be trusted. There is too much potential for biased disinformation. .
You do realize that when the Louisiana Purchase doubled the size of the country, we bought it from the Spanish who had slaughtered the indigenous population as well as Central and South America?
I'm not an americane but yes a lot of them also died of naturale causes of deceases we brought from europe. I'm a european, he is a bit one sided in his critique about the states. But he isn't wrong also most country's aren't much better. Difference is we know we wheren't better most americanes still believe the lie that their country is.
Not sure about the nuclear bombing. O i'm pretty sure what he is saying is partly true i just am happy they did it. It sounds horrible because it was it also prevented from ever using one of them in a war. So it is almost a certanty that it saved lives not that was the intention but he i take what i can get.
The second iraqi war opend my eyes about the USA. I wouldn't believe they would start a war on just a lie (i wasn't naive enough to completly believe it but not that its was pure fiction). Ever since that war i looked up things up about the US myself and well it pretty much is as digusting a country as described here. To be fair my country (the Netherlands) wasn't much better i can argue there where a couple of good reasons for it but we still did it. Difference is we evolved not that we really good but at least not as bad anymore. Besides we aren't hypocriticale about it we acknowledges what we did was bad and now teach that in school.
Negosikie
And still doing the same 2024
he`s not wrong about being the world police, but fails to mention that if they don`t do it somebody else will take over that job. How that would play out nobody knows, but one thing is for sure Americans wouldn`t like it.
I wish you had moved to Germany, or anywhere in Europe, and had access to proper healthcare. How much is this costing you?
Saw how the video affected you. Sadly this has been going on since the dawn of man and it shows no signs of changing.
Good video (from you), bummer that the dude in the video you're reacting to, is so disingenuous in the way he presents things. It's frustrating to see when hand-picked details and stats are presented as the whole truth, not to mention the whole "if you're not my side, it's because you haven't educated yourself" ramble he briefly goes on towards the end. That's the tell-tale sign of someone who can't actually handle discussing the real topics, and just insists that "I'm right, you're wrong, and I know I'm right, because I'm right".
PS. no I'm not American, I'm Danish. I just dislike when things are twisted to deliberately (but without stating so) showing the worst possible angle something can be seen from, and presents it as neutral information.
I disagree with Chile and Iran.
Iran
Iran got under the influence of the Soviet Union.
The SU occupied area of Iran together with the UK and it did not want to give it back and founded states of the territory of Iran. This led to the Iran crisis of 1946.
Left leaning is a very polite way to say communist and pro Stalin gouverment. Mossadegh might have been left leaning and more moderate but he was govern with the National Front which had also communist parties in it like the Tudeh party.
Chile
Allende was elceted because of a CIA coup in the first place. The CIA was involved in the kidnapping of the suprme commander Rene Schneider who tried to defend himself, got shot and died 3 days later. This was the reason the PDC (Christian Democratic Party of Chile) backed the election of Allende. Without this, Allende would not have been elected.
And he was trying to make a country a socialist one which was not liked by the opposition and the PDC. As a socialist in the way of Marxism-Leninism ha had the backup of countries like the GDR and SU. Allende would have been removed anyway or he had to make the country in a dictatorship like the other communist or self claimed "socialist" countries.
And the CIA was not involved in the coup. They financed these people yes but had nothing to do with planning and performing the coup.
Alleende as a left radical politician put some harsh reforms on the country that went in the wrong direction. He did not have the majority of the parliament behind it anymore.
He was presented like a martyr in the GDR after the coup and we all know what kind of gouverment this was.
Allende made Pinochet to the supreme commander as a rersult of the stepping back of four mimnisters and the supreme commanders beforehand. Allende barely survived an attemd to de-eclet him. And I don't think that Pinochet was a faschist before the coup or at least it was not obvious otherwise Alleende would not have given him the power ove the army, wouldn't he?
Hi Nate! I have often thought about what would happen if all the countries that have been betrayed, warred against, and intimidated by the United States came together. I didn't know any of the numbers of people killed as a result of US interference, but actually the American natives and the nuclear strikes in Japan are enough to determine that the USA and their respective presidents are the greatest war criminals of all time.
As a German, I can probably have a say, because we didn't cover ourselves with glory. I am very sad that the USA is not the country I once dreamed of. I love the different areas, with the beautiful but sometimes intimidating nature, I love American music from folk to heavy but I don't want to live there these days. And it's because of the people there (not all of them, but a lot of them). Too proud, too stupid and unable to see beyond his own horizons.
A country that calls its own war dead heroes cannot be the future of the world. I would rather call these war dead victims, the first victims of their own governments and those in power. And now the next scary president is in the starting blocks, but no matter who wins, the first to suffer will be the US citizens and only then the rest of the world.
But time has shown that every empire is doomed at some point and the USA and Russia have long since exceeded their half-life.
Keep it up, show the world that there is also the “other” American. Fun fact. In my region there is a pastry that we call "American", thin, with icing, very sweet, tasty but not always good for your health.
Stay healthy and don't let yourself be annoyed.
Be careful with second thought - he is a tankie. He was removed from Nebula for refusing to condemn Hamas killing civilians (AFAIK). His other friends also banned from nebula, ie. Hakim known for denying Iraqi war crimes against Kurdish people.
He might be all too happy to condemn US imperialism and war crimes, but asking him to condemn Russia or China for the same things? thats another story. But dont take my word for it - google it yourself.
I didn't know and i won't take your word for it but it wouldn't suprise me. That second part of the nuclear bombs i haven't found real evidence that Japan was ready to surrender. Did found some that it was a good possibility but not like he stated it. The other parts while true was a bit one sided especially about the cold war part. Still this is a good piece for amreicanes to seriously watch they are actualy as bad as painted here.
Keep in mind America also did a lot of reasonable "good" things and that all country's are basicly ammorall its just that the USA is so hypocriticale about it and the americanes actualy believe it.
Correction, he refused to fall in line with condemning Hamas full-stop. That's the US slight of hand trick to gaslight everyone into accepting the atrocities Israel has been and continues to commit against the Palestinian people who had no part nor power in the Hamas attack. If you condemn Hamas, it's further justification for turning a blind eye to what's been happening for decades in Gaza & the West Bank. While, if you condemn Israel, you're antisemitic. Let's not capitulate to propaganda. If we can freely condemn Hamas, Germany, Japan, Russia, China, ISIS, the Taliban, Iran, N. Korea, etc., then we should also be able to freely condemn France, Canada, Australia, Britain, the US and all of our allies. As the age-old question goes, who polices the police?
@@arturobianco848 Keep in mind, that emperor announced surrender without ever mentioning the word surrender, and still after two nukes were dropped there was a coup attempt when hard-liners found out there was going to be surrender.
LOL Be careful you might un-wash your brain which is brain-washed by Capitalist propaganda. Did you watch this video?
If russia or china did the same things, he would absolutely condemn them.
Be aware that you are now listed by your FBI….
Have you moved to Germany now?
Should add to the video; US forced nuclear bombing on Bikini Island, and moving their people against their will.
No, we haven't moved yet. Our plan is to move in the summer of 2025.
It made sense when trump became the president a few years ago. He represents america's values perfectly.
Yup that makes me so afraid he is going to be elected again.
@@arturobianco848likewise, here’s to hoping we only have to withstand the scourge once 🤞🏽🤞🏽
Nate, every country has colonised and dominated others, and committed genocide. The difference is the way the USA so stubbornly clings to their "angel" narrative while the rest of the world knows the truth. I'm Canadian. We genocided the Indigenous that preceeded us. We acknowledge our wrongs and work daily to try and make amends.
Yes that is the difference with you canadians and we mexicans to US people, we recognice those facts about our past. I'm mexican by the way 🎉❤
Yet we all still happily accept the benefits from the exploitation of those in the global south, due to US imperialism and neocolonialism which is still going on today.
Admitting we were wrong would also mean admitting that the things we continue to do to this day are wrong. We would have to let other countries determine their own future, and eventually allow the world to realize that the narrative weve been fed about the evils of socialism is a lie. If we let socialist countries be socialist, and didnt sanction them until they bend the knee, they might actually succeed and prosper. The rich cannot allow people to realize thats possible.
its a very interesting and important topic but the original video leaves far too much unsaid for my liking, i understand then need to try and be as succinct as possible in UA-cam videos but when dealing with such an important and divisive topic ensuring the historical context is given is vital and unfortunately is far too lacking in this video, its a great way to find topics to read more about but if you try to win an argument with the narratives portrayed here and you will soon find yourself looking like an idiot.
that said as a brit it has always been rather funny to me that Americans keep being so outraged by election interference by other nations, every country in Europe has had to put up with the American government trying to influence its allies democratic process let alone its enemies, look no further than Brexit if you want to see what happens when the US government interferes in other peoples politics on behalf of US business interests that stood to make more money by the UK moving away from the EU market and towards the American market. and we are supposed to be Americas "closest ally" everyone this side of the pond understands that the nature of our "special relationship" usually involves us bending over and grabbing our ankles for the US interests. that's just the cost of doing business with America.
personally i do wish he had included a few more modern examples like the whole "burn pit" saga, America is patting itself on the back for recognising what those pits did to their own soldiers but go back to non us news reports at the time and the global outrage was regarding the villages and civilian populations the military set up those pits next to, usually then locking down said villages with roadblocks in the interest of "controlling movement" to make identification of insurgents easier. still no acknowledgement of the countless civilians that died due to respiratory illness and increased cancer rates nor any acknowledgement of the dramatic and immediate increase in death rates of children in those villages. now half acknowledging what happened to their own people while ignoring the effects that many civilians still have to live with to this day only serves to brush the whole matter under the rug in the public memory "burn pits? we already dealt with that, no need to think about it further".
America may have claimed to go to war to stop "extremism" but during the war they created more extremists by abusing the local population than ever existed before they invaded, take a look at the records of the "terrorist" groups the military was targeting over the course of the war. the number of Islamic extremist groups only went up during the conflict regardless of how quickly the US military killed them. and this is not a new phenomenon the exact same thing happened during the crusades as each side only learned from the ever increasing brutality of the tactics used.
JT Chapman, better known as Second Thought, is an American socialist commentator and educational UA-camr. Initially a scientific educational project, the channel is most widely known for producing videos on various political topics from a Marxist Socialist perspective.
Jeez, first time seeing this on my recommended and this guy looks like a ghoul.
I would say go and have major brain surgery yourself and see how you look afterwards, but you lack the essential part for brain surgery to be conducted on...
HOPEFULLY one day you will "EXPERIENCE DIVERSITY" first hand...
What does that mean? We already experience diversity firsthand. Even places trying to kill DEI, gender studies, and their wacky idea of CRT are experiencing diversity despite themselves...which is probably why they want to kill all of the diversity programs and ship asylum seekers off to other states. Even the Daily Wire has diversity. 😅
The original video is extremely biased. I could make the same kind of video,bashing Russia,Great Britain,France,Germany,Belgium,Turkey,Mongolia etc etc. for what their ancestors did throughout history. Americans shouldn't feel guilty for past mistakes.
That's kind of the point. Every country has done terrible things in their history. The problem is that Americans don't think they've done anything wrong, ever, and that they are always on the righteous side. That's where I have an issue. And you're right, we shouldn't feel guilty of what our ancestors may have done, but we need to understand what they did in order to not repeat their mistakes.
Shouldn't they at least feel guilty for PRESENT mistakes? God knows there are plenty of those: genocide in Gaza, slaughter in Ukraine, and reckless warmongering in Taiwan, just to name those actually occurring before our eyes in real time. So long as Americans keep pretending we're heroes instead of sadistic, self-deluded children, we're going to stay in this suicidal death spiral - and that's not something I want to see.
@@NateLawson I've never seen a single American unironically say their country is perfect all the time even when talking about history. Twitter and social media in general don't count as evidence. I'm talking about in real life here when I say that. Saying all Americans think their country has never done anything wrong ever is just a strawman argument with barely any factual basis. Whenever I see videos with titles that say "America is the REAL bad guy", they usually are filled with factual inaccuracies and exaggerations to push a one-sided agenda that doesn't align with history. And some reactors just gobble it up without questioning the original video with even simple Google searches because why waste time searching things up to verify stuff when you can just "react" to it and steal the original video to make a quick and easy buck.
Of course. guilt for your ancestors' actions and non-actions is not required. But is required to know about and teach the younger generations about it. Make amends if possible and prevent the repetition of history. It's absolutely necessary to acknowledge ALL parts of your history. Don't glorify the good parts and most important lift the carpet and sweep the bad parts into the light of day.
@@NateLawson Yup thats the only real problem i have with america and its starting to hurt you. Its not just poisaning the rest of the world but your own country much harder. Because while we aren't any better at least we sort of learned from it. America or americanes don't because they still believe the lie.
Nah Americans are great as long as they`re not Maga ..
(imagine if russia would have won the war I know because i have roots in eastern germany)
Huh? Russia's the main reason WW2 was won, they were on the same side as america, what are you talking about??
Did your parents escape Eastern Germany?
@@winterlinde5395 my mother
America is not the main reason ww2 has been won, it only joined once it was attacked at Pearl Harbor (Japan really did a number on the Navy there). Thats lazy for usa to join so late, america also committed many war crimes
mwah i don't know what kind of history they teach in India but that is not true ,
the reason Russia could do what it did was because of material support of the allied axis otherwise Russia would be German ,.....
The subsequent occupation by Russia of eastern Europe did not bring prosperity to keep it diplomatic ....
And by won the war I meant the Cold war