So about the coil whine guys. Like we said in the video, it could be sample to sample variance, not everyone would experience it to that degree AND its most apparent in high framerate situations. We made sure full context was given. But also remember reviewer cards are thoroughly tested by AMD before leaving their facility. In addition, it isn't something we could just overlook and not report.
Welcome to YT you say? Another clickbait attempt, pathetically as usual. Listen "dawg" I´m older than both of you and I´ve been longer on YT and before either one of you even dreamt of becoming a content creator. Also I am following Dimitry and your channel from the very beginning because I like the content, that is why I can stand 100% behind my statement that you were known(and still are occasionally) for clickbaits. So instead getting salty and childish without knowing me or my background and "welcoming me to YT" how about you take the critics for once and do something with it? Just a suggestion....UFD Tech also claims he never puts clickbait titles, shall we ask the audience if that corresponds to the truth? Keep doin your thing, I´ll be around as usual since, as already mentioned, I like the content. Just cut down on the clickbait. Easy, amirite? :)
I'm experiencing some pretty noticible coil whine on my 6800xt. Waited outside microcenter 20 hours early for it, but I'm not too bothered cause imma slap a waterblock on it anyways
"dont worry dimitri is here" i mean as a guy who's been following this channel since dimitri is alone... i used to see him more than eber... dont get me wrong i love eber but it's just funny how we see eber like 70% more than dimitri 😅
The coil is working properly, you are just hearing it do its job. They should of impregnated the inductor with a wax or enamel to stop movement within the coil.
Just managed to snag a 6800 here in Sweden. Looking forward to that since I'm coming from a gtx 970! So at least one person here who won't be mad at reviewers for stealing all the cards :) Update: Some of the people that had confirmed orders had them cancelled afterwards. I was lucky enough to have a card allocated with my order, so happy about that! However, the retailer hasn't actually received any cards from AMD yet, and they'll only receive about 100 or so. I will get my card in 1-3 weeks. Not a big deal, but obviously the release is rushed - since not even retailers have the, very limited amount of, cards in stock yet.
@@bubonicrider8021 Well the US price of 649 dollar is pre tax, if you take a 9% Tax (Washington) then you'll end up at roughly 707 dollars which is basically 594 euro. In Germany they ask 820 EUR for that card, which is inacceptable. I would ditch the card if it were in stock for the 780 of what you paid. I'll wait till supply and demand normalizes or skip the generation entirely. I still have no issues with a 1080ti so I am not in a rush. Nonetheless, german retailers are total scumbags.
@@PaladinJenkis We're always 25ish% above msrp here, so nothing new. Payed about €630. The RTX 3070 sells for between €590 and €690, soo.. not cheap either. Even if you could get one.
GPUs 2021 There are a few in stock but the companies were offended to miss out on the higher pricing, so now the cards they make are just as pricey as scalper cards. The only difference is now they have the typical return warranties… as if anyone is going to return these rare cards
@@theorangecarousel481 To be fair who are you replying to? OP? This dude is copy pasting this comment on multiple videos right now just looking for some attention. Pretty lame to be fair. :/
@@terryd8692 yeah. Some sites are starting to list one or two. But no way to buy. Plus i read multiple sites saying £500 for the 6800 xt, which did seem too low to be true. But they're more like £700... :/ Even the 6800 is being listed at over £500.
I really think the reason AMD went 16gb on all 3 cards is because they're anticipating the future. Everybody is talking about how Smart Access Memory barely makes a difference and then kind of writing it off. What a lot of people aren't considering is that this functionality is one of the core features of both the PS5 and the Xbox Series X. The other thing people aren't thinking about is that NONE of the games out on the market have been designed to leverage this technology. In the next one or more years as games are being co developed for the consoles and the PC, I anticipate we are going to start seeing some games come out that you will see some much more serious and consistent performance uplifts from SAM. VRAM is significantly faster than system memory, and having such a large GPU memory pool means that if the game is only using let's say 7 or 8gb, the CPU can then leverage that remaining memory for other functionality in lieu of the system RAM. Anyways, I could be utterly wrong, and perhaps AMD is sort of pulling an Nvidia RTX here and putting this tech out there early to sort of incentivize the industry to start developing software that utilizes it and they all basically ignore it, but I really don't think so. I think the incentive to have an all AMD system is just a proximite benefit and not the ultimate reason, and AMD's marketing is just leveraging that as a side bonus.
Never heard anything about coil whine with nvidia cards. My last AMD card got sent back because of the whine. I'm not putting up with any of that crap.
Lucky :( I got to the final checkout page TWICE, but never got all the way through. :( I was spamming refresh on several sites all morning and no luck. :( I did get a Ryzen 5800x though (too bad my GPU is a gtx 1080 tho LOL)
@Graham J Well I woke up an hour before launch, had 6 tabs open with my credit card info saved into each site. Literally went to each tab and pressed f5, they would either not load, and then immediately be out of stock. Or just be out of stock. I never once even saw an add to cart option. They allowed people to get them for about 30 seconds, so that is "something".
Literally stayed up all night, when it hits 8 AM CST listings were five minutes late, and then when they were posted stock went out. Literally seconds and it's all gone. Wtf bro 😞
*Meanwhile in Norway:* - 6800 XT released for $941 - 6800 released for $841 - 3080 released for $886 - 3070 released for $709 I can't see any reason why people would go for AMD here other than the shortages. Insane. Why wouldn't I just try and scalp my 6800 XT? And if it doesn't work just return it and wait for my cheaper and better 3080 expected next year, lmao! Is it the same elsewhere in the world?
In General the 10 GB wont bottelneck the Card for the next 2-3 Years if you dont play 4K Max Settings. 16 GB will be good for games like Microsoft Flight Simulator whice takes ~10-11 Gb. Advice:10 GB is enough 8 to little for the Future. 16 is more than enough .
Watch Dogs Legions at 1080p almost uses 8 gigabyte... go figure how much memory you need for Watch Dogs Legion at 4K..... more memory is always good for future games. In 2021 more and more games come that are bordering 8gig or above..... Not good for RTx 3070.......
How does the cards perform in a production workload like Resolve and Aftereffects? Does the 16GB of VRAM offer more flexibility than the 8GB and 10 GB from Nvidia?
It’s very impressive all things considered. 6800XT vs 3080 Pros: Less power consumption More compact design Around the same level of noise Great thermals (especially for the clock speeds being achieved) More Vram for future proofing SAM? Better 1440p performance (within error of margin through). 6800XT vs 3080 Cons: Less Ray tracing performance (for those who care). A worse encoder for streamers and capturing gameplay. No DLSS alternative (although one is coming soon). Generally 5% slower at 4K (but that’s within error of margin and not noticeable to the average person with specialized testing software).
Now I want to know what the 6900XT can do. If that matches a 3090 (I think it will beat it honestly, except for RT), then Nvidia really has to consider bringing the price down a few notches. It is so good to finally have competition in both sectors again. Now we can all revive the 290/390 vs 970/980 flame wars again.
I've ordered one of these with the 5000 series ryzen 7 cpu but I'm not sure if I need a pc like that. How much would I need to spend to get a good gaming pc?
Dont count Valorant fps to do the average fps in all games, its so high that distorsionate the average graphics, its like do the average salary with 4 employers and the CEO of a international company.
@@PsychoticBacon19 And I support that he use benchmark of valorant, even if he also use Dota or LoL. The problem is that average of 700fps of valorant vs the 60-70fps average in RDR2, made an average of almost 400fps for both games as you can see, its mathematical correct, but a nonsense since you can get 400fps in RDR2 or near.
@@frangarcia1699 both cards have the same outlier do they not? How does it skew the data of which card has the higher overall frame rate. If you want to know take out valorant and do the math yourself. Jesus man. Bunch of bitches
@@Starwarman1 You really need to study how statistics being presented is a huuugeee source of ethical issues in almost any industry. It is extremely misleading and doesn't give relevant insight into the actual performance of the card, this is why it is 100% normal for statisticians to throw the top and bottom outliers out of the data set. It unrealistically skews the results.
@@UsmanX I spent those generations gettin through 12th grade after it was all downhill excluding 7000 haha....and since ive been waiting for them to at least offer something that competes
Nice card. I go for the RX 6800 non XT, since my 550W PSU is a little bit undersized for the XT Variant. Think it will be enough for the non XT though :) (Pared with Ryzen 3700X)
For anyone experiencing severe coil whine, a better PSU can resolve issue completely. I experienced coil whine from hell when I bought my RTX 3080 right out of the box. then I bought a new PSU and the coil whine is almost completely gone. I upgraded from a Coolermaster master watt 750w bronze to a seasonic 850w platinum.
18:10 Would the 6800 be considered a buy if one compared it when over clocked? I saw some really impressive numbers by KiGuruTech where the 6800 was getting an increased clock speed resulting in a 9% increase in FPS.
14:49 I'm pausing right here to tell you about the 40% gain Steve from HUB demonstrated in his review when testing AC: Valhalla using SAM. Sure, it's an outlier but it gives you a glimpse of what SAM is capable of when properly utilized.AMD delivered some MASSIVE gains comapred to RDNA. 15:54 I think this will play out like what happened when AMD made the first unified shader in the early 2000s 16:20 That's because there ARE NO RT performance enhancements for Ampere over Turing. What Nvidia referred to in their launch event turned out to be a hoax because they were comparing 2080Ti to 3080 which has far less raw performance
But can coil whine damage your card or other components in the PC? Or is it just being noisy and annoying but wont harm anything? I have a card with coil whine.
Legit question: Can you use the USB-port on GPUs to feed a monitor normally? I mean, I know you'd need an adapter, but there are some monitors that have USB-C connectors for display as well, so does that work or is it VR-devices only?
yeah.. color grading here is perfect.. especially because i am on a calibrated display.. however thanks to this guys because till now they're the only one showing us how bad coil is on this card.. especially for me eventually mounting it with a waterblock...
Question: Should i just buy a 5700 xt or wait for a few months to see if there are any 6800's available somewhere? But then if they are available they will probably be outrageously expensive.
I am not surprised by the results. AMD has been on a success train for several years now. Everyone will praise them till they begin to fall behind again. As an AMD fan I have stuck to their GPU lineup since 2010. I did use nVidia's GPU lineup for a short stay but always knew AMD had the better options for me. I hope we get support for these new NAVI cards in Mac OS XI soon. (: Good video D'Mitry and I hope Ebert and Michael are okay. :(
@@Kallan007 AIB cards are releasing next week. It was known for a while that it was a launch for the reference cards. And yes there is a difference depending on the maker of the cards. Some companies might cheap out on the electronic components. It is not made at the same place, only using the same blueprints.
Thanks for this review! If you had made these benchmarks also with 1080p resolution (especially interested in the esports games) this review would have been perfect! I would appreciate if you could test these cards also with 1080p resolutions.
Pricing (4.55) for the initial releasein the UK of the RX6800 XT Sapphire and Powercolor cards is £679, 898 USD or 1178 Canadian (based in todays exchange rate) Never too sure how comparable the prices are on these videos, like converting the USD MSRP to a Brit RRP because always unsure if that MSRP includes tax. The one thing that used to bug the **** out of me in the US was the in the price on the sticker not matching the price at the till. The decision between the cards might be harder in the UK as their is a price difference of approx £80 between 6800 and 6800Xt or $105 USD
I am still curious about AMD's decision to equip the 6800 with 16GB of VRAM instead of 10GB or 12GB. Wonder if they reduced the VRAM would they have been able to have price parity with the 3070 at 500usd? Can the 6800 realistically use all 16GB Vram with it completely utilized and the GPU still be have good performance in the game/software it is running in? With SAM as well, I am honestly curious. Since the 6800, 6800XT and eventually 6900XT have 16gb of VRAM, I wonder if there is a way to reduce available VRAM via software to try and see if there is a performance hit with SAM for each RDNA2 card if it was set at 8gb or 12gb VRAM being detected. This is assuming that the game has a good SAM Performance increase with default 16gb VRAM. Just a curiosity because with Nvidia saying they'd enable their version for resizeable BAR, I wonder how that would be for a card like the 3070 where it only has 8gb of VRAM to work with, then a 1440p game say uses around 6gb of VRAM to run it well, leaving only 2gb max to work with resizeable bar... would there even be a benefit with the more limited free VRAM? Linux has had resizeable BAR for a while so I wonder what they have to say about resizeable bar benefits for when they use the 5700XT that only had 8gb of VRAM, along with the "less efficient" architecture of Zen+ or Zen 2 when compared against Zen3?
I'm more interested to see the comparison of 6800XT vs 3080 in production workloads, like Blender, Aftereffects, PremierPro, etc. Does 16GB of extra memory in AMD makes any difference to opt AMD over Nvidia for content creators?
its kind of amazing how many reviews ive watched now where they outright recommend one card or the other based on one card getting 170fps at 1440p and one card getting 180fps at 1440p. we kind of need to start telling the whole story here, both cards perform amazing in every resolution, the only downside to the most powerful gpu's released in the last few years was 4k performance and ray tracing performance, this is where the new cards literally had to make good progress and for the most part they have but the 6800xt is some ways behind in RT and thats more of a problem than most reviewers are making out, id be shaking in my boots starting up cyberpunk and toggling that RT switch on praying for it to perform great and nobody should be afraid to use the feature on your brand new RT capable top of the line card, the 2080ti got a shit load of stick for not performing good enough and i have to say first time or not AMD should be getting the same stick, its a pretty half arsed attempt at ray tracing and thats not going to be great going forward. pretty fantastic that the cards are genuine high end performers though but yeh, we wasnt lacking fast rasterization performance anyway and i think reviewers are being just a bit too lenient on AMD who have had 2 years of studying 20 series cards to figure out a way to do better in the big standout features, minecraft at 4k with RT on running at 13fps average is just not good enough, and for anybody that has tried minecraft with RT you will know its a bloody nice feature, but not at 13fps.
Rx 6800 XT is better in 1440p. My monitor is 1440p 170hz and i don't care about raytracing because the visual improvement is negligible for the fps drop that come with it and i'm not a streamer just a gamer so broadcast nvenc and that features doesn't really matter at all so 6800 XT is the perfect and best gpu for me
@@Denominator16 good for you mate, 1440p is better on one or the other it just depends which review you watch and what games are used, id take the card that offers me more for my money, even if i dont use those features right now, ill be a lot happier turning on RT in cyberpunk using a 3080 over a 6800xt i think by the looks of it and that to me makes the difference, if you can game and have fun with a 6800xt go for it man
@@jinx20001 yeah. If i wanted to play at 4k@60-80fps rtx on i would buy rtx 3080, but i prefer higher fps. Anyway both cards are amazing and the return of competition will benefit us as consumers with better cards developed in less time and cheaper in the future
And how's the multimedia support? Nvidia's cards can and often are used to accelerate certain workloads outside the regular gaming areas - thanks to CUDA and NVENC support, those cards can be better utilised, eg. for media decoding/encoding using various formats/codecs at a quality that's quite good and fairly impressive performance, or you can use the HW in several editors for better stabilisation, denoising etc. AMD is focusing on OpenCL/OpenGL instead, its media encoder only recently (as in with the last gen of Radeons) reached the quality levels of the then NVENC versions. But how's the performance and support of the media extensions for the Radeon 6k shaping? After all, if you're buying a card that costs $500+ you'd expect it to be able to both play games and do something more, media being one of the first additional functionalities under microscope... How's the support of those media extensions within linux? I think that the AMD encoder is a Windows-only solution at the moment, but I might be mistaken... How's the support in Handbrake/DaVinciResolve/FFMPEG? How's the support for GPU pass-through and/or vGPU on new AMD Radeons (Nvidia has great offerings and support, but to use vGPUs on their cards you need the Quadro/Tesla/Grid cards, shell out on substantial costs of the additional licenses and run license server, otherwise it's pass-through only for virtualisation)?
Can i politely ask for some productivity benchmarks along the gaming ones? How RDNA2 compares to Ampere in compute tasks. What is the state of the encoder/decoder compared to NVENC. Traditionally, AMD GPUs are superior in compute workloads but using OpenCL is harder that the proprietary CUDA. Is there a shift in the industry towards a more open standard like OpenCL?
It's a good review, but why no overclocking benchmarks? One of the things I was most looking forward to besides the SAM feature was the overclocking performance. Many leaks indicated a good amount of room for overclocking. Will you do another video comparing overclocks to the benchmarks you've already done?
My friend got the 6800 xt and it doesn't have any coil whine. And many other reviewers said there's no Coil Whine whatsoever. Why does your one have an alien screaming for help 😂
With rdna 3 in 1 year, they really need to rethink/ heavily improve their RT performance. If they can do that AND 50% increase in Perf per watt, they will probably crush nividia next yr
I hope so too. Competition is great for us all. Still, Especially after this Nvidia won't be just sitting on their laurels. Hopefully Amd woke a sleeping giant
So about the coil whine guys. Like we said in the video, it could be sample to sample variance, not everyone would experience it to that degree AND its most apparent in high framerate situations. We made sure full context was given. But also remember reviewer cards are thoroughly tested by AMD before leaving their facility. In addition, it isn't something we could just overlook and not report.
Welcome to YT you say? Another clickbait attempt, pathetically as usual. Listen "dawg" I´m older than both of you and I´ve been longer on YT and before either one of you even dreamt of becoming a content creator. Also I am following Dimitry and your channel from the very beginning because I like the content, that is why I can stand 100% behind my statement that you were known(and still are occasionally) for clickbaits. So instead getting salty and childish without knowing me or my background and "welcoming me to YT" how about you take the critics for once and do something with it? Just a suggestion....UFD Tech also claims he never puts clickbait titles, shall we ask the audience if that corresponds to the truth? Keep doin your thing, I´ll be around as usual since, as already mentioned, I like the content. Just cut down on the clickbait. Easy, amirite? :)
We do you work with the "suggested retail price" anyway? Its just wishful thinking.
Please stick to the real prices.
@@Dobrinja1921 Who are you even arguing with?
@@Dobrinja1921 Is this some new copy pasta I haven't seen yet?
I'm experiencing some pretty noticible coil whine on my 6800xt. Waited outside microcenter 20 hours early for it, but I'm not too bothered cause imma slap a waterblock on it anyways
Oh wow, the colors in this video are gorgeous
Very high and good production quality
These guys have the crispiest and luxurious videos in the tech review scene...That Cozy Canadian vibe.
IKR, these folks always have top-notch production quality
They always are for these guys, my bet is they use davinci resolve for color grading, apart from good production of course.
Oz - heck son, you need to go out and get laid ;)
"dont worry dimitri is here"
i mean as a guy who's been following this channel since dimitri is alone... i used to see him more than eber... dont get me wrong i love eber but it's just funny how we see eber like 70% more than dimitri 😅
I was thinking the same thing - that it was nice to see Dimitri for a change :)
That's because Eber is amazing
Have no fear, Vlad is here!
Bang! - you're dead Max Payne
@Clorox Tree I like Dimitri better.
@Clorox Tree that's funny because I actually prefer Dimitri's voice and accent over Eber's, and that's coming from a fellow Canadian
the coil whine must be a malfunction and not the norm.
Thats what im thinking, this is like the only review where its mentioned lol
Well yeah, but the fact that such an annoying malfunction was allowed to leave AMD is the problem here.
The coil is working properly, you are just hearing it do its job. They should of impregnated the inductor with a wax or enamel to stop movement within the coil.
@@MrNekyno is it that, prevalent?
@@MrNekyno That's pretty unfortunate, try blowing more air so they can run slower I guess
its good to see you back Chris Pra- i mean Dimitri
Chris Pratt - RTX OFF
Just managed to snag a 6800 here in Sweden. Looking forward to that since I'm coming from a gtx 970!
So at least one person here who won't be mad at reviewers for stealing all the cards :)
Update: Some of the people that had confirmed orders had them cancelled afterwards. I was lucky enough to have a card allocated with my order, so happy about that! However, the retailer hasn't actually received any cards from AMD yet, and they'll only receive about 100 or so. I will get my card in 1-3 weeks. Not a big deal, but obviously the release is rushed - since not even retailers have the, very limited amount of, cards in stock yet.
At which site did u order?
How were the prices there? Here in Germany sellers are pulling a total shitfest on us customers. Almost 30% more expensive than advertised.
@@PaladinJenkis At webhallen 6800xt goes for 7990sek which is around 780 euros
@@bubonicrider8021 Well the US price of 649 dollar is pre tax, if you take a 9% Tax (Washington) then you'll end up at roughly 707 dollars which is basically 594 euro. In Germany they ask 820 EUR for that card, which is inacceptable. I would ditch the card if it were in stock for the 780 of what you paid. I'll wait till supply and demand normalizes or skip the generation entirely. I still have no issues with a 1080ti so I am not in a rush.
Nonetheless, german retailers are total scumbags.
@@PaladinJenkis We're always 25ish% above msrp here, so nothing new. Payed about €630. The RTX 3070 sells for between €590 and €690, soo.. not cheap either. Even if you could get one.
2020 GPUs in a nutshell: Benchmarks don't matter, all cards are both priced way above MSRP and sold out at the same time.
GPUs 2021 There are a few in stock but the companies were offended to miss out on the higher pricing, so now the cards they make are just as pricey as scalper cards. The only difference is now they have the typical return warranties… as if anyone is going to return these rare cards
Rage mode is enabled for people trying to buy the cards.
What a shit show
I've seen this exact comment copy-pasted on so many videos
@@duckie6677 to be fair amd kinda walked right into that one.
@@theorangecarousel481 To be fair who are you replying to? OP? This dude is copy pasting this comment on multiple videos right now just looking for some attention. Pretty lame to be fair. :/
Rage mode kinda makes barely an impact to fps boast
Now, let's talk about the cards availability
Lasted a second, just like Nvidia. Very disappointing.
Uk sites dont even have listing pages... Then scans and overclockers sites both just stopped working at 2:00
Weird launch.
@@ge2719 Nothing at 2pm for me for at least 5 minutes, then they were listed but none available to buy.
@@ge2719 Overclockers have AIB boards listed saying they're available on 25th nov for pre order. So what happened to the non AIB ones?
@@terryd8692 yeah. Some sites are starting to list one or two. But no way to buy.
Plus i read multiple sites saying £500 for the 6800 xt, which did seem too low to be true. But they're more like £700... :/
Even the 6800 is being listed at over £500.
People in the queue to trying to buy these: RAGE MODE
Did you go on every page putting out videos to add this same stupid comment?
Nice! :)
@@Sunzardtcg burn
Literally every video about these cards has the same unfunny comments
@@DTG4844 cuz the fanboys have no humor sense lol
Delivered on promises of performance, now they just need to deliver...
I see what you did there lol. I cant wait to get mines.
@Melburn Sir you have no ideal how fucking wrong you are bro
I mean, let's just hope they don't pull and nvidia and still have 0 stock 2 months after release.
@Melburn Sir Yep, when they releas a 40 CU version of this architecture probably in the low 200 dollar price range, it's going to be a massive hit.
Four months later and still an issue 🥺
I want to see "have no fear Demitri's here" on a t-shirt!
The coil whine is like screaming alien. LMAO.
Yea no damn way I could sit in the same room with that thing
Sounds like a baby crying
I would of paid $50 for AMD to make a better shroud.
E.T.
@@basshead. Oh it’s you again
I really think the reason AMD went 16gb on all 3 cards is because they're anticipating the future. Everybody is talking about how Smart Access Memory barely makes a difference and then kind of writing it off.
What a lot of people aren't considering is that this functionality is one of the core features of both the PS5 and the Xbox Series X. The other thing people aren't thinking about is that NONE of the games out on the market have been designed to leverage this technology.
In the next one or more years as games are being co developed for the consoles and the PC, I anticipate we are going to start seeing some games come out that you will see some much more serious and consistent performance uplifts from SAM.
VRAM is significantly faster than system memory, and having such a large GPU memory pool means that if the game is only using let's say 7 or 8gb, the CPU can then leverage that remaining memory for other functionality in lieu of the system RAM.
Anyways, I could be utterly wrong, and perhaps AMD is sort of pulling an Nvidia RTX here and putting this tech out there early to sort of incentivize the industry to start developing software that utilizes it and they all basically ignore it, but I really don't think so. I think the incentive to have an all AMD system is just a proximite benefit and not the ultimate reason, and AMD's marketing is just leveraging that as a side bonus.
You were right
6:16 the sound of my Nightmares
Nice video; i the first video that i see when you can hear the Coilwhine!
Never heard anything about coil whine with nvidia cards. My last AMD card got sent back because of the whine. I'm not putting up with any of that crap.
@@terryd8692 i had and Nvidia 2080 super and now Rtx 2060; both have Coilwhine and its really terrible
@@terryd8692 talk to more people. I've lucked out thankfully and have yet to buy a card with coil whine.
@@terryd8692 nobody else cards have that
@@chriswright8074 You'd think that they'd test the cards they send out to these massive youtubers
I got one off the AMD website, after pressing F5 for 30 minutes straight. Damn scalpers
Same .. every other site went down :D
Same lol. At 15:24 that pesky error 503 finally sent away
Congrats, you are one of the lucky ones. Gives the rest of us some hope! LOL
@@Kallan007 After not getting a 3080, nor an 5900X ... atleast i got smth 😂
Lucky :( I got to the final checkout page TWICE, but never got all the way through. :( I was spamming refresh on several sites all morning and no luck. :( I did get a Ryzen 5800x though (too bad my GPU is a gtx 1080 tho LOL)
As far as us regular consumers are concerned, they didn't do shit unless we can actually buy one.
@Graham J Well I woke up an hour before launch, had 6 tabs open with my credit card info saved into each site. Literally went to each tab and pressed f5, they would either not load, and then immediately be out of stock. Or just be out of stock. I never once even saw an add to cart option. They allowed people to get them for about 30 seconds, so that is "something".
@Rodrigo Tassara In mine they are, have been, and will be. Already 6800xt's on ebay for 1500+, same with 30.
Literally stayed up all night, when it hits 8 AM CST listings were five minutes late, and then when they were posted stock went out. Literally seconds and it's all gone. Wtf bro 😞
Get a Nvidia GPU.
*Meanwhile in Norway:*
- 6800 XT released for $941
- 6800 released for $841
- 3080 released for $886
- 3070 released for $709
I can't see any reason why people would go for AMD here other than the shortages. Insane. Why wouldn't I just try and scalp my 6800 XT? And if it doesn't work just return it and wait for my cheaper and better 3080 expected next year, lmao! Is it the same elsewhere in the world?
I started watching this channel when Dimitri did like all of the videos so I'm glad to get a video with him starring
Reviewing cases? (:
Me: Yes...give me a 6800 please
Every retailer on the planet: 0.00005ms after launch - "Out of Stock" message posts :-/
Would anyone be so kind to explain how important the gb of ram each card has. Like how important is it that the 6800 XT has six more gb than the 3080?
For 4k resolution , you can expect from AAA games to drain more than 10gb of vram, which is kinda terrible for a 4k gaming card!
In General the 10 GB wont bottelneck the Card for the next 2-3 Years if you dont play 4K Max Settings. 16 GB will be good for games like Microsoft Flight Simulator whice takes ~10-11 Gb.
Advice:10 GB is enough 8 to little for the Future. 16 is more than enough .
@@nktslp3650 4k won't max out 10gb, at least not now.
Watch Dogs Legions at 1080p almost uses 8 gigabyte... go figure how much memory you need for Watch Dogs Legion at 4K..... more memory is always good for future games. In 2021 more and more games come that are bordering 8gig or above..... Not good for RTx 3070.......
Videomemory is also nice for textures. If you like modding Fallout 4 VR or Skyrim VR... 12+ gig can easy be filled with 4K mods.
Once again they sold out before even appearing for sale. It's virtually impossible to build a new system right now.
same here, i got all the components except cpu and gpu
I did snag an AMD Ryzen 5900X but not the AMD RX 6800 XT. So I am batting .500. LOL
That's cause they went to RTP members.
I just rebuilt my rig with a 5600x and 3070, I'm happy with it
@@brettcorry7382 That is a nice system, you are ready for CP 2077. lol
How does the cards perform in a production workload like Resolve and Aftereffects? Does the 16GB of VRAM offer more flexibility than the 8GB and 10 GB from Nvidia?
7:56 I'm confused... they had hotspot temp with the 5700 cards and a 110C cap too?
yes
6:30 In the year 2069 when you cut off an alien and he rolls down his spaceship window and curses you out in Martian:
Joseph Joestar: "Your next line is they are all sold out!"
NANI?!
3070 restocked same happend to me i just got a rtx 3079
OHMAHGERD!
"They are all sold out! Wait, NANI?"
Hmm I could be wrong but I believe this a JoJo reference...
What's the name of the monitor at your rear
They definitely are on par with Nvidia regarding supply.
It’s very impressive all things considered.
6800XT vs 3080 Pros:
Less power consumption
More compact design
Around the same level of noise
Great thermals (especially for the clock speeds being achieved)
More Vram for future proofing
SAM?
Better 1440p performance (within error of margin through).
6800XT vs 3080 Cons:
Less Ray tracing performance (for those who care).
A worse encoder for streamers and capturing gameplay.
No DLSS alternative (although one is coming soon).
Generally 5% slower at 4K (but that’s within error of margin and not noticeable to the average person with specialized testing software).
Good to see you back Dimitri.
You know my day was going pretty well but seeing Dimitri return really made it. Love you man, welcome back!
Your b-roll is godly as always. Thank you.
Bravo on bringing attention to coil whine! I've watched about 10 videos and none mentioned it!
Now I want to know what the 6900XT can do. If that matches a 3090 (I think it will beat it honestly, except for RT), then Nvidia really has to consider bringing the price down a few notches. It is so good to finally have competition in both sectors again. Now we can all revive the 290/390 vs 970/980 flame wars again.
Great job on the lighting on the b-rolls!!! Love it! :) Thanks for the review!
Finally Dmitry! With all due respect, i am subscribed for you mate
I've ordered one of these with the 5000 series ryzen 7 cpu but I'm not sure if I need a pc like that. How much would I need to spend to get a good gaming pc?
6:17 IDK, but honestly i love this sound LOL!, hope in the future my Card will song like a jet, DK why people hate it...
Dont count Valorant fps to do the average fps in all games, its so high that distorsionate the average graphics, its like do the average salary with 4 employers and the CEO of a international company.
Nah dude I've been trying so hard to find a big youtuber who actually includes valorant in their benchmarks
@@PsychoticBacon19 And I support that he use benchmark of valorant, even if he also use Dota or LoL. The problem is that average of 700fps of valorant vs the 60-70fps average in RDR2, made an average of almost 400fps for both games as you can see, its mathematical correct, but a nonsense since you can get 400fps in RDR2 or near.
@@frangarcia1699 both cards have the same outlier do they not? How does it skew the data of which card has the higher overall frame rate. If you want to know take out valorant and do the math yourself. Jesus man. Bunch of bitches
@@Starwarman1 You really need to study how statistics being presented is a huuugeee source of ethical issues in almost any industry. It is extremely misleading and doesn't give relevant insight into the actual performance of the card, this is why it is 100% normal for statisticians to throw the top and bottom outliers out of the data set. It unrealistically skews the results.
That coil whine sounds like a bag of angry mice!
Clear & Concise review! Thanks.
Best roundup I've heard.
What a video, very nice SAM background explanation, Dimitri for the win
YES!!! Nvidia card perform better in 4K overall No to mention SAM will be implemented in ampere card soon aswell.
@@nasser_almashjary I only celebrating my purchase of 3090 since i know 6900xt won`t able to beat it now
@@SonicDestiny but the 6800xt was close to the 3090 so it still definitely can
it's not about beating one another ,but having a good competition. it benefits us and them atst
@@anmolkoul2976 for 1080 or 1440p sure but since 6800xt didn`t beat 3080 in 4k , I doubt 6900xt would beat 3090 in 4k
I waited 11 years for this
Now you just have to wait a lot longer for them to be made.
@@kevie88 hahaha yeah but the fact that some level of competition exists is good
@@JaswanthChandraImGame consumer competition, which is not good.
Did you skip the HD5000, or HD6000 series?
@@UsmanX I spent those generations gettin through 12th grade after it was all downhill excluding 7000 haha....and since ive been waiting for them to at least offer something that competes
Please tell me about that watch at the start.
9:48 next time can yall please make sure the placement of each gpu listed is the same in each shot
I have watched 4 reviews so far and yours was the only one that mentioned coil wine. Are you sure it's not just a problem with your review sample?
It 100% is a bad card...it happens
@@rare6499 you are bubbles
@@claritoresdiano1021 bubble and squeak?
Nice card. I go for the RX 6800 non XT, since my 550W PSU is a little bit undersized for the XT Variant. Think it will be enough for the non XT though :)
(Pared with Ryzen 3700X)
I got a Ryzen 7 3700x too but I'm still confused either RX 6800 or RTX 3070, I'm only gaming at 1440p hmm
Been watchin you since forever and suddenly Eber come into the scene. Had no fear at all.
Hey Dimitri, where can i get this awesome sw wallpaper? 😄👋
For anyone experiencing severe coil whine, a better PSU can resolve issue completely. I experienced coil whine from hell when I bought my RTX 3080 right out of the box. then I bought a new PSU and the coil whine is almost completely gone. I upgraded from a Coolermaster master watt 750w bronze to a seasonic 850w platinum.
18:10 Would the 6800 be considered a buy if one compared it when over clocked? I saw some really impressive numbers by KiGuruTech where the 6800 was getting an increased clock speed resulting in a 9% increase in FPS.
where do you get your wallpapers
What are the specs of the rest of the benchmark machine(s)?
1440p , Rx6800 , R7 5800x for gaming and 1080p60 streaming good ??
14:49 I'm pausing right here to tell you about the 40% gain Steve from HUB demonstrated in his review when testing AC: Valhalla using SAM. Sure, it's an outlier but it gives you a glimpse of what SAM is capable of when properly utilized.AMD delivered some MASSIVE gains comapred to RDNA.
15:54 I think this will play out like what happened when AMD made the first unified shader in the early 2000s
16:20 That's because there ARE NO RT performance enhancements for Ampere over Turing. What Nvidia referred to in their launch event turned out to be a hoax because they were comparing 2080Ti to 3080 which has far less raw performance
Well done Dimitri, looking forward for your review on the new Silence Base 802.
...and please keep up with great content like this
Which cpu is being used for each gpu ?
did it even go on sale in the UK?
Doesn't look like it
But can coil whine damage your card or other components in the PC? Or is it just being noisy and annoying but wont harm anything? I have a card with coil whine.
Great review, thank you 👏🔥
No 1080P Competitive Setting Comparisons? I loved that about your RTX3080 Review.
Did you change your monitor Dimitri? Is that the new CM monitor? :D
I was just going to skip to the benchmarks, but Dmitri doing this review is rare air. I'm gonna watch the WHOLE thing
What an awesome video per usual! Color editing is AMAZING! I love what AMD has done but I think they need to drop the RX 6800 price by like $50.
Interesting coil whine issue, haven't heard that from the other reviews yet but it also doesn't entirely surprise me.
Yea, none of the other reviews said anything so far.
Hey what PC case is that?
Legit question: Can you use the USB-port on GPUs to feed a monitor normally? I mean, I know you'd need an adapter, but there are some monitors that have USB-C connectors for display as well, so does that work or is it VR-devices only?
yeah.. color grading here is perfect.. especially because i am on a calibrated display.. however thanks to this guys because till now they're the only one showing us how bad coil is on this card.. especially for me eventually mounting it with a waterblock...
what keyboard is that?
Apparently Alvin and the Chipmunks have snuck aboard your Radeon 6:22
What ultrawide is that in background?
Question: Should i just buy a 5700 xt or wait for a few months to see if there are any 6800's available somewhere? But then if they are available they will probably be outrageously expensive.
I am not surprised by the results. AMD has been on a success train for several years now. Everyone will praise them till they begin to fall behind again. As an AMD fan I have stuck to their GPU lineup since 2010. I did use nVidia's GPU lineup for a short stay but always knew AMD had the better options for me. I hope we get support for these new NAVI cards in Mac OS XI soon. (:
Good video D'Mitry and I hope Ebert and Michael are okay. :(
what brand was it? (asus, sapphire, gigabyte, etc, etc)
Did you guys managed to benchmark Raytracing with SAM enabled??
Unfortunately, no stock in Canada. I had to reserve one at Canadacomputers in person. Only the Sapphire reference design is available.
I looked at all the other MFG cards and they are all just reference cards. NO difference at all between them and AMD.
@@Kallan007 AIB cards are releasing next week. It was known for a while that it was a launch for the reference cards. And yes there is a difference depending on the maker of the cards. Some companies might cheap out on the electronic components. It is not made at the same place, only using the same blueprints.
@@evalangley3985 True, that is why I wouldn't buy an AIB card until you can get a proper review.
Would be nice if they introduced SAM profiles. It's such a hassle to go into bios and activate it just for certain games and not others.
This video was gorgeous! Anyone know the intro and backing track title?
How do you get multithreaded rendering enabled in valorant. Got a 5950x and 3090 not seeing that fps...not that it really matters
That capacitor layout behind the GPU die is so beautiful!
Is it just me or this guy is a Chris Pratt look alike.
Here I am in April of 2022, still with supply issues, looking to see if its actually worthwhile to upgrade my 980Ti yet... insanity.
might as well wait for next gen now LOL, in any case judging by how often you upgrade you will likely be waiting forever LOL have fun!
Is there anything that a consumer can do to minimize the whine?
RTX 6800 XT Coil whine? What did I miss? =P
Thanks for this review! If you had made these benchmarks also with 1080p resolution (especially interested in the esports games) this review would have been perfect! I would appreciate if you could test these cards also with 1080p resolutions.
Pricing (4.55) for the initial releasein the UK of the RX6800 XT Sapphire and Powercolor cards is £679, 898 USD or 1178 Canadian (based in todays exchange rate) Never too sure how comparable the prices are on these videos, like converting the USD MSRP to a Brit RRP because always unsure if that MSRP includes tax. The one thing that used to bug the **** out of me in the US was the in the price on the sticker not matching the price at the till.
The decision between the cards might be harder in the UK as their is a price difference of approx £80 between 6800 and 6800Xt or $105 USD
Looks like comparing RT performance under 1440P is written in the review guide.
I am still curious about AMD's decision to equip the 6800 with 16GB of VRAM instead of 10GB or 12GB. Wonder if they reduced the VRAM would they have been able to have price parity with the 3070 at 500usd?
Can the 6800 realistically use all 16GB Vram with it completely utilized and the GPU still be have good performance in the game/software it is running in?
With SAM as well, I am honestly curious. Since the 6800, 6800XT and eventually 6900XT have 16gb of VRAM, I wonder if there is a way to reduce available VRAM via software to try and see if there is a performance hit with SAM for each RDNA2 card if it was set at 8gb or 12gb VRAM being detected. This is assuming that the game has a good SAM Performance increase with default 16gb VRAM. Just a curiosity because with Nvidia saying they'd enable their version for resizeable BAR, I wonder how that would be for a card like the 3070 where it only has 8gb of VRAM to work with, then a 1440p game say uses around 6gb of VRAM to run it well, leaving only 2gb max to work with resizeable bar... would there even be a benefit with the more limited free VRAM?
Linux has had resizeable BAR for a while so I wonder what they have to say about resizeable bar benefits for when they use the 5700XT that only had 8gb of VRAM, along with the "less efficient" architecture of Zen+ or Zen 2 when compared against Zen3?
I'm more interested to see the comparison of 6800XT vs 3080 in production workloads, like Blender, Aftereffects, PremierPro, etc. Does 16GB of extra memory in AMD makes any difference to opt AMD over Nvidia for content creators?
Did you change title even to this new video?
Looks like Nvidia is keeping an eye on you...
You need to call an exorcist to tame that demon inside your card, lol.
its kind of amazing how many reviews ive watched now where they outright recommend one card or the other based on one card getting 170fps at 1440p and one card getting 180fps at 1440p.
we kind of need to start telling the whole story here, both cards perform amazing in every resolution, the only downside to the most powerful gpu's released in the last few years was 4k performance and ray tracing performance, this is where the new cards literally had to make good progress and for the most part they have but the 6800xt is some ways behind in RT and thats more of a problem than most reviewers are making out, id be shaking in my boots starting up cyberpunk and toggling that RT switch on praying for it to perform great and nobody should be afraid to use the feature on your brand new RT capable top of the line card, the 2080ti got a shit load of stick for not performing good enough and i have to say first time or not AMD should be getting the same stick, its a pretty half arsed attempt at ray tracing and thats not going to be great going forward.
pretty fantastic that the cards are genuine high end performers though but yeh, we wasnt lacking fast rasterization performance anyway and i think reviewers are being just a bit too lenient on AMD who have had 2 years of studying 20 series cards to figure out a way to do better in the big standout features, minecraft at 4k with RT on running at 13fps average is just not good enough, and for anybody that has tried minecraft with RT you will know its a bloody nice feature, but not at 13fps.
Rx 6800 XT is better in 1440p. My monitor is 1440p 170hz and i don't care about raytracing because the visual improvement is negligible for the fps drop that come with it and i'm not a streamer just a gamer so broadcast nvenc and that features doesn't really matter at all so 6800 XT is the perfect and best gpu for me
@@Denominator16 good for you mate, 1440p is better on one or the other it just depends which review you watch and what games are used, id take the card that offers me more for my money, even if i dont use those features right now, ill be a lot happier turning on RT in cyberpunk using a 3080 over a 6800xt i think by the looks of it and that to me makes the difference, if you can game and have fun with a 6800xt go for it man
@@jinx20001 yeah. If i wanted to play at 4k@60-80fps rtx on i would buy rtx 3080, but i prefer higher fps. Anyway both cards are amazing and the return of competition will benefit us as consumers with better cards developed in less time and cheaper in the future
@@Denominator16 not gonna argue with that mate, enjoy.
And how's the multimedia support? Nvidia's cards can and often are used to accelerate certain workloads outside the regular gaming areas - thanks to CUDA and NVENC support, those cards can be better utilised, eg. for media decoding/encoding using various formats/codecs at a quality that's quite good and fairly impressive performance, or you can use the HW in several editors for better stabilisation, denoising etc. AMD is focusing on OpenCL/OpenGL instead, its media encoder only recently (as in with the last gen of Radeons) reached the quality levels of the then NVENC versions. But how's the performance and support of the media extensions for the Radeon 6k shaping? After all, if you're buying a card that costs $500+ you'd expect it to be able to both play games and do something more, media being one of the first additional functionalities under microscope... How's the support of those media extensions within linux? I think that the AMD encoder is a Windows-only solution at the moment, but I might be mistaken... How's the support in Handbrake/DaVinciResolve/FFMPEG?
How's the support for GPU pass-through and/or vGPU on new AMD Radeons (Nvidia has great offerings and support, but to use vGPUs on their cards you need the Quadro/Tesla/Grid cards, shell out on substantial costs of the additional licenses and run license server, otherwise it's pass-through only for virtualisation)?
Sperated card now for that
Can i politely ask for some productivity benchmarks along the gaming ones? How RDNA2 compares to Ampere in compute tasks. What is the state of the encoder/decoder compared to NVENC. Traditionally, AMD GPUs are superior in compute workloads but using OpenCL is harder that the proprietary CUDA. Is there a shift in the industry towards a more open standard like OpenCL?
Coming a bit later.
-D.
It's a good review, but why no overclocking benchmarks? One of the things I was most looking forward to besides the SAM feature was the overclocking performance. Many leaks indicated a good amount of room for overclocking. Will you do another video comparing overclocks to the benchmarks you've already done?
Im confused - this guy said theres bad coilwine, and a few mins later says these are 2 of the most silent AMD cards?
My friend got the 6800 xt and it doesn't have any coil whine. And many other reviewers said there's no Coil Whine whatsoever. Why does your one have an alien screaming for help 😂
With rdna 3 in 1 year, they really need to rethink/ heavily improve their RT performance. If they can do that AND 50% increase in Perf per watt, they will probably crush nividia next yr
I hope so too. Competition is great for us all. Still, Especially after this Nvidia won't be just sitting on their laurels. Hopefully Amd woke a sleeping giant
What about AI-Benchmark? How does it compares in Tensorflow and NAMD Performance vs Nvidia?