Commodore C128 Repair - First time fixing the Amazing 8-bit powerhouse - Bad Ram, Bad PSU, Bad CIA

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024

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  • @retrobitstv
    @retrobitstv Рік тому +7

    Glad you were able to get the old girl working again and thanks for the shout-out! The C128 remains my favorite 8-bit home micro. While there's not a ton of 128-specific software, there are some real gems in and amongst what is available. Lots of hardware upgrades too. With the right kit, you've could have had a budget terror that would have given the early Macintosh a run for its money for a fraction of the price, played all of the games in the C64 library, and went online at blazing (for the time) speeds :)

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +2

      Thank you for your excellent and super useful content!

    • @lovemadeinjapan
      @lovemadeinjapan 3 місяці тому

      Girl... ? Seriously. This is a bloke. The PSU alone has more steroids than the Hulk. Off course, a C128 has multiple personality dissorder, maybe the Z80 inside is girlish, it must be Cinderella burried in a dark pit with humming machinery. I have it here on my desk, and no matter how hard I try, no lesbian feelings coming up. It is the weirdest piece of 8-bit shit ever built.

  • @joopidema
    @joopidema Рік тому +2

    First time I was shouting at the screen when you opent the PSU with the 230v power still plugged in. LOOKOUT!
    Second time I was shouting at the screen when the keyboard was missing some keys in a pattern IT IS THE CIA!😂. Well done. I really like your repair video’s. 👍🏻

    • @EgoShredder
      @EgoShredder Рік тому +1

      The PSU is okay ONLY if you know exactly what you are doing, and are fully concentrating. Otherwise NEVER DO IT! 😁

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +3

      😆 Sorry to make you shout! PSU was powered down. Stuff like that doesnt always get through the editing stage.

  • @jackleg693
    @jackleg693 Рік тому +2

    Another superb video!
    I don’t fix old computers, I don’t even play games. I’m not an electrician or anything similar yet I find these videos so good to watch!

  • @binarydinosaurs
    @binarydinosaurs Рік тому +1

    I remember chatting about those topdon cameras the other week, this has convinced me. Splendid!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +1

      It has transformed how I diagnose faults now. That's not to say its always going to be the tool that gives you the answer, sometimes the fault isn't a short. But, especially on Commodore machines and MOS silicon, it has really made the difference.

  • @TheBasementChannel
    @TheBasementChannel Рік тому +1

    Great job. My brother traded in our C64 for a 128, I remember getting excited about all the extra power, but then being underwhelmed because our software was all still C64.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому

      Yeah, but with 128k!
      I can imagine that might have been a bit of a let down. Its a shame as the 128 really is a technical marvel. "They" reckon the 128 cost Commodore more to manufacture than the Amiga 500!!!

  • @retroandgaming
    @retroandgaming Рік тому +1

    I had the exact same issue with my c128. After replacing the CIA chips it has worked like a charm ever since. But they where a real pain to desolder from the C64 parts board...

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +1

      Fortunately I have a few C64 boards hanging around here with socketed chips :D

  • @richardpowell8198
    @richardpowell8198 Рік тому +2

    Another great video again keep them coming 👏👏

  • @jaycee1980
    @jaycee1980 Рік тому +1

    1:22 ugh, ISMET power supply!

  • @Breakfast_of_Champions
    @Breakfast_of_Champions Рік тому +1

    What about the X/Y caps in the PSU? Weren't they unsafe ones from the paper cap era?

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому

      I believe these are the Philips ones and therefore not a problem.

  • @bwack
    @bwack Рік тому +2

    Great video (this is a test comment)

  • @chaoticsystem2211
    @chaoticsystem2211 Рік тому +1

    This is nice and all. But where's your narrator???

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +1

      He's taking some time off for bad behaviour.
      Dont fear though, he will be returning in future videos!

    • @chaoticsystem2211
      @chaoticsystem2211 Рік тому +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt Cheers! I was a bit worried that he accidently touched a hot wire while plugging in a commodore PSU ^^

  • @ANTandTEC
    @ANTandTEC 4 місяці тому +2

    Good video 👍

  • @bwack
    @bwack Рік тому +3

    Great. I wonder if I keep forgetting to send the comment. Lol. Good to see another Versa64Cart in the wild. I have jupiter lander as well as dead+diag test on mine, but i struggle with the jumpers😅 Sven Petersen made a diagcart that is based on the Versa, but is optimized with sliders to automatically set the memory mapping jumpers when switching between diag and dead test.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +1

      My dead test and C64 diagnostics cart is that exact Sven Petersen one! I ordered a bunch of Versa cart boards plus some of Svens Diag64 boards to make some variations up and give some away to friends.

  • @RetroComputingReboot
    @RetroComputingReboot Рік тому +3

    Great vid. Well done!

  • @griffinretro
    @griffinretro 7 місяців тому +1

    MT DRAM. If it hasn't gone bad yet it will. If I see them in any machine I replace them, they are that prone to failure. In my experience the C128 is fairly reliable for a C= build computer, faults most often occur with DRAM or MOS made logic chips.

  • @8bitkid408
    @8bitkid408 Рік тому +1

    My favorite computer. Coupled with a 1024? Monitor for 80 column display. CPM FTW. The other was my TI99/4A.

  • @DaveVelociraptor
    @DaveVelociraptor Рік тому +2

    Delighted to see contact cleaner being used

  • @rimmersbryggeri
    @rimmersbryggeri 10 місяців тому +1

    You can fix the strain relief by threading a nylon or fiber washer over the cable and locking it in place with the cable tie.

  • @matchboxcustomsandrestos
    @matchboxcustomsandrestos Рік тому +2

    Love the video. This is why you never carry your brick of death by the wires. Or swing it around by the wires. Its ok if you are fighting a burglar or something. LOL. Those MT ram chips are sketchy at best. Most of us start waving a cross over them and start prying. Then call a exorcist to rid the evil they do! LOL. Anyways...you got a new sub from me!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +1

      Maybe tie two of these together to make a really deadly bolas!
      Thank you and welcome to the channel!

    • @matchboxcustomsandrestos
      @matchboxcustomsandrestos Рік тому +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt Use two 64 bricks for that. That would be even more solid and heavier!

  • @domramsey
    @domramsey Рік тому +2

    Appreciate this as I took delivery of a C128D that had been dropped from a great height yesterday!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +1

      Oh no! Hopefully you can piece it back together. Maybe make a feature of the damage.

    • @domramsey
      @domramsey Рік тому

      @@MoreFunMakingIt Literally just got it booting by reseating all the socketed chips. A lot of the plastic is cracked but you can barely see that when it's on a desk. Just don't pick it up!

  • @CallousCoder
    @CallousCoder Рік тому +1

    Dodo 🦤 that’s my nickname has been for most of my life.
    My godson and goddaughter also call uncle dodo 🦤 My friends and I laugh, we wonder how old they’ll be before they ask if that’s really my name.😂They are no 4 and 2 so I’ll be known as uncle dodo for some more time. And I find it really endearing 😂
    And concerning the C128, I bought one a year ago. And it’s a weird little beast. I’ve never owned it in the past and I hardly use the 128 mode but u do really like it.

  • @Rockythefishman
    @Rockythefishman Рік тому +1

    Nice repair, she lives again. One of the few machines I have never missed with.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +1

      Thank you!
      It was nice to work on. I'm glad it wasn't a more complicated fault though 😆

  • @weepingscorpion8739
    @weepingscorpion8739 9 місяців тому +1

    I love the Commodore 128. My dad bought one around 1987 and it saw pretty much continuous use for over a decade. Then it started failing and now it has mainly be collecting dust the poor thing. I am determined to get it fixed however, so hopefully one day that will happen. Like many other C128s ours was mainly in C64 mode. A shame really but the C128 was then and is still now really underrated and there is still so little native software for it, as in games of course. Ultima V had a native C128 port (it adds music during game play which the C64 does not have) and even The 8-Bit Guy's Attack of the PETSCII Robots has a native port. Great video, Lee!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  9 місяців тому +1

      Lucky you! I would love a 128.
      Good luck getting it fixed 😄

  • @Bergi2000
    @Bergi2000 Рік тому +1

    Smooth repair! Bravo, keep it up! :-)
    The C128 is high on your wish list, you fix one for Paul, send it back to him and expect him to sell it on eBay? Kind of backwards/sad.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому

      I dont mind. I get to fix and play around with lots of machines I couldnt afford to buy for myself.

  • @wimwiddershins
    @wimwiddershins Рік тому +1

    The IR camera really helped point out that dodgy switch.
    Funny how many high resistance faults I've seen lately; switches, contacts and especially crappy USB cables that drop a volt over less than a metre.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому

      It really has proved to be a very useful addition to my toolset. Saves me a lot of time. I've managed to get it hooked up to the bench laptop now too. Makes using it even more convenient.

  • @purrator
    @purrator Рік тому +1

    Those pins on the board for the keyboard connector are an absolute nightmare to connect the test harness to :( They are slightly to small for most DB25 sockets

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому

      Even the actual keyboard connector is super tight. Can't imagine what tighter that that would be!

  • @rossbennett5069
    @rossbennett5069 Рік тому +1

    Great video thank you. Looks like the thermal camera saved you a lot of time chasing your tail. I can imagine with out it you would have been pulling your hair out.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому

      I hope I might have got there eventually 😆 But the camera really does help me skip a few traditional steps.

  • @RudysRetroIntel
    @RudysRetroIntel Рік тому +1

    Excellent video and work! Now you are a 128 expert! Good on you. My first 128 repair, I had to do the same mod to the power supply. I'm not sure if this is a common issue. Thanks for sharing

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому

      Hey Rudy! Thank you :D Nice to know I got the PSU repair right too

    • @RudysRetroIntel
      @RudysRetroIntel Рік тому +1

      @More Fun Making It Right is when it's safe and working 🤣

  • @leesmithsworkshop
    @leesmithsworkshop Рік тому +1

    well done kind sir. I think everyone wants a C128 it's a very desirable computer, but then is it really better than a C64 when you look at the software ?

  • @RetrogradeScene
    @RetrogradeScene Рік тому

    I really want to spend some more time playing around in the Commodore world. Never had thee chance to play on a 128. Nice fix as always!