STAR WARS Kenner vs Palitoy: What Was Different?
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Today we look at Kenner and Palitoy to see what was different.
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I'm from London and grew up with the palitoy star wars toys. The cardboard death star was my favourite toy ever. It was actually shaped like the death star and had so much play value. Darth vs obi wan on one level and han Luke and Leia next level up. Thanks for the video's and helping me relive my childhood.
Same here mate.Exept i grew up in Slough. Haha!
We had Palitoy in Australia too.
UK did eventually get Kenner branded toys, (figures at least) cos I remember saying to my mates, "Who the fuck are Kenner?" Could have been overstock, or a factory balls-up I suppose but I do remember.
Honest!
Yes, I had the Kenner R5D4 and Snowtrooper
I'm in UK so all my star wars toys were palitoy. I've got the death star , the droid factory and land of the jawas. I had an escape pod with my palitoy LOTJ.
Ian Harvey yeh and my landspedder had an opening bonnet so they could have been imports
this is the first time seeing the UK version of the Death Star its very different most likely cheaper because its a lot of cardboard but a good way to cut corners and still have a Star Wars looking play set
1) I'll say Palitoy wins that one. The Kenner one is nice, but the Palitoy one seems more... Death Star-ish. Palitoy just repainted their Action Force playset for it, but it works.
2) Any storage is good on a toy, and I would've wanted to see the engine under the 'hood' (we call it a bonnet). Kenner wins.
3) Never cared for sounds, but some kids did. Prefer the chrome R2, but I have to give it to Kenner again (same with the Tie Fighter).
4) Hmm... something of tie on that one. Leading toward the Palitoy for the extra sticker.
5) Kenner wins that one - crane and extra level is cooler.
6) Kenner wins easily.
"But I'm not gonna get up and go get it." Ha ha, that needs to be your review motto from now on. "Yeah I here to do a review on my Luke Skywalker ROTJ figure I own. But I'm not gonna get up to go and get it." LOL
Get off your fat ass and go get it! jk, lol.
0:43 lol
Very interesting. The UK Death Star was huge, way way better than the US one and loved playing with it as a kid. Alas. it was a neighbours. All the others, you win.
Part of the reason for the cost reduced Palitoy versions was the amount of disposable income available to UK householders in the late 70’s and early 80’s. Palitoy figured that reducing the number of working parts would make it more affordable to the Mum’s and Dad’s buying their kids toys back then. Funnily enough they didn’t make any alterations to the Millennium Falcon but stuck with the same basic version of the X-Wing throughout the entire run.
I still have my falcon, Mum says it was expensive and had to look everywhere for it
Hey, we weren't all rich in the USA, either. I remember living in the 70s and early 80s, we were poor as well, my mother was a single parent. But my dad bought a lot of Star Wars for me for Christmas. I think the whole world was in a stagflation event in those times.
I loved my Death Star playset! Main problem with it was the door to the trash compactor soon tore off with it being made of cardboard... That certainly was a joyful Christmas! Had to get an army of stormtroopers to populate it afterwards.
If it makes you feel any better, the US version had a plastic door on the top and the front...the plastic hinges on both were some of the first things to break right after the tip of the laser.
I laughed at that remembering the ashtrays from the 80s. That is very true ash trays were everywhere back then, seems like everybody had more than a couple ashtrays in their house. And making ashtrays in class at school was not uncommon either. What a memory you reminded us all of growing up in the 80s.
Another major difference was how we got mail away figures. Unlike Kenner cards, Palitoy ones did not carry a proof of purchase stamp. If we wanted a mail away figure, we had to cut out the character name from the front of the card, which ruined it. I still have a load of old Star Wars backing cards, some with holes where I cut the names out to send for a figure. Very possibly Boba Fett. Good video, Junkman!
That's how I got Dengar and Admiral Ackbar. Oh, and also got the pack of 'Star Wars accessories' through the post as well - ESB Hoth backpacks and guns. Those were the days!
That irritated the hell outta me too. Especially when I learned later on that you were also allowed to _draw_ the logo's yourself! At that point in time I had a deck of cardboard cards w/ the names cut out.
I got the mail away Boba Fett, Dengar and Nein Numb
We had both Death Stars in Canada. I had the cardboard one and loved it. My friends that had Death Star playsets mostly had the Kenner style one.
Also, here in Canada, the vinyl caped Jawas were everywhere. All of my friends had them. I had the cloth tunic version and my friends and I thought I had the “special rare one”. I only found out recently that the vinyl caped ones were the more desirable and rare ones. Funny.
I remember years ago a website that was selling Star Wars Mocs. And while I didn't know it at the time, one such creation they had in limited stock was a Lego version of the Palitoy Deathstar.
Loved the bit about the ashtrays!
Palitoy repurposed their deathstar as a headquarters base for their military Action Force line.
I reckon on some aspects and features Palitoys really effed ya in the A...😓
GREAT VIDEO JUNKMAN!!!!! The Death Star (Kenner version) was always My absolute favorite Star Wars playset of them all!!!! I remember getting it for Christmas back in the late 70's after I had seen it in the 'Sears Christmas Wishbook" (remember those?!!) It lasted for years and years (actually so long that the individual peices of foam used in the trash compactor dried up and crumbled away). When My son was little I went online and bought him an actual still in the box Death Star Playset. We had a ton of fun putiing the stickers on and setting up the playset for many battles (He still has his packed away in the original box!). I always thought the Palitoy one would be cool to have also, it was really detailed and it reminded me of the "Space 1999 Alpha Moonbase Playset" made by Amsco that I had as a child. It was made of cardboard too but it was really nice for what it was. Thank You again for sharing this video and information with Us, it brought back so many GREAT memories for Me!!!!! : )
opening the hood on that landspeeder was 90% of the play value
In Canada we had both Death Star playsets . The cardboard one was pretty heavy, but sturdy .It was a Sears exclusive.
Just found your channel by accident. I like your style, man. You're funny! Also pretty damn nostalgic for child of the '80s like me. I remember there being some Kenner toys in my collection. I definitely had the Kenner Biker Scout action figure. He's right up there with the Emperor's Royal Guard as being the coolest-looking figure in the whole set. OK! I'm gonna go watch your video on how much the toys cost when released. Thanks for this, dude.
Welcome to the channel
Being from Australia, I only have Kenner from my childhood but one difference I noticed between Kenner and Palitoy was years later the Palitoy Max Rebo remained all blue when the kenner version faded on his limbs.
I think we had a mix of both companies in Australia. we had the cardboard death star, the x-wing without electronics & the land speeder with the opening bonnet.
as a kid I had a Palitoy death star, and the kenner droid factory.
living in australia I think we got the best of both.
The pop up hood with the sticker inside reminds me of Kenner's Six Million Dollar Man toys. They had a lot of extra drawn on electronics and stuff..
In Australia the early figures I got (1978/79) where Palitoy but the Landspeeder was Kenner.
I have a handful of Mego figures made by Palitoy, and I found a Sand People/Tusken Raider card with the Palitoy logo instead of the Kenner logo.
Why didn't Palitoy just import everything from Kenner? surely shipping costs would have been cheaper than all the licensing.
Either way they paying for licensing so it will save cost to make them there
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Thank you for covering this topic. I had one of those and didn’t even know it.
I had the cardboard death star in Canada. No idea what ever happened to it. We had a LOT of fun with that.
I just realised...you could customise the Funko Golden Girls Bea Arthur action figure for the Cantina playset to recreate the Star Wars Christmas special...now there’s another reason for GG merchandise! 👍🏼
I have the Palitoy Death Star. Not sure how complete it is anymore though. I might have lost the guns and bubble top on the gun turret over the years. It was a Sears Christmas Wishbook exclusive in Canada. It came with, I think it was 2 Stormtroopers and 4 plastic figure stands.
Mine was definitely Palitoy. I was in South London at the time. Don't recall seeing the Kenner name on stuff that far back.
Odd that I swear my land spender had an opening bonnet .would check but it’s in the loft ,im British
Great video! I live in England and bought Star Wars toys obsessively right from the start! I remember hearing about legendary toys that were only available over there. My friends used to talk about the escape pod but I didn't believe them. And wow, I never knew about the engine hatch on the speeder! That looks so cool. The Palitoy Death Star blew me away. I had so much fin with it. Me and my brother got one each for Christmas 1978. Here is a photo my mum and dad took before they went to bed on Christmas Eve. Looking at it gives me tingles and brings back warm memories. imgur.com/fZ7zxgG
Nice picture, makes me remember the goof old Christmas Times I had as a kid! Thx and greetz from germany!
That X-wing with the chrome R2 is hot! Might have to loo for one.
Great vid mate. I grew up in England in the 70's/80's and had all of the Palitoy versions you've just shown.Seems we got a bit of a raw deal here,except for the Death Star which i loved!
I was a kid in the UK and although most of the figures were Tri-Logo / Palitoy, many of the available vehicles etc were Kenner or Palitoy. Many warehouses / stores obviously imported Kenner stock from the US.
(My Land Speeder was Kenner, I never even saw the Palitoy version over here - definitely inferior, haha).
The chrome R2 on the Palitoy is NICE.
Hi back. In the late 1980 garage sale days I found a escape pod in a box full of figures loose and played. Any way I had the Play set and purchased the loose escape pod
In Canada, Sears actually sold a version of the Palitoys Death Star, I remember seeing it in the catalogue.
Yes they did
Funny! When I was in elementary school (first half of the 80s) over here in germany, we did clay ashtrays for our parents in school, too. It seems there are at least some similarities all over the world ;)) Greetz ^^
I have to pick up that Zayre* shirt. Lord, I’d forgotten all about that store! Fond, fond memories of running to the toy section as soon as my family went there. Can kids even run off by their own anymore? We had it good back then!
this is a modern day collectors problem. back in the late 70's to early 80's, no one knew what was going on overseas. as there was no internet and we was just happy for anything Star Wars to appear in the shops. I had the Palitoy Deathstar and played with it for hours. the reason that it is the best version is ... you had loads of different areas for setting up your figures. as it had every main scene of the Deathstar on it. where as the U.S version just had open areas.
i wish there was a happy medium between the 2 Death Stars. I'm not a big fan of cardboard, but I like the design.
Is size matter? the answer is yes as the UK market is 10 time smaller the US one. This is the main reason why Palitoy had to figure out how to manufacture a toy who fit to the British market (otherwise you Pay $50 for toy and that's a perfect exemple to mention here) Palitoy worked on Kenner's blue print only and made it's own mould. As you probably know, iron injection mold are the most expencive process in the industry and you better have a lot to cast before using it! Palitoy Droid Factory, Land of the Jaws and Creatures cantina base are made of thermoform plastic sheets which it a very low budget technic. this technology was even use to make Stromtroopers's suite in the Star Wars films and it's still use today in many industry when you have a very small amount of item to build. If you want you can have a look to my Kenner Palitoy review right here:
Land of the Jawas: ua-cam.com/video/cFQHqWNu62Q/v-deo.html
Creature Cantina: ua-cam.com/video/2TpLpWRBIsk/v-deo.html
Take Care Junkman !
probably should point out that there was a lower standard of living in the UK and Ireland , and if some of the bigger toys had been priced like the US , no one would have been able to afford them !
Also the other cool thing was that a lot of Star Wars figures later got remixed and remade into the Action Force range (a sort of miltary/sci fi range )that eventually got folded into the GI Joe range in the UK
Pretty informative. I knew there were some differences, but never knew just what they were. Didn't matter, my folks couldn't afford most of the toys when I was a kid. I had a few vehicles that my mom found at thrift shops and garage sales. Being poor sucked being a Star Wars kid.
Yep,I made clay ashtrays for my parents.
Honestly, I don't think the UK missed out on too much.
Their X-wing was far better due to the nonexistant electronics and the engines were black on the inside.
The Kenner Death Star was superior, but Palitoy had more features, thus, more to explore.
The main issue I have with the Palitoy Death Star was the color scheme.
Green?? Orange??
I'll stick with DARK blue, off white .. and orange .. IT'S RUST! :)
Someday, I'd like to get a few Palitoy
(and Lily Ledy, for that matter) SW toys to round out my collection.
Thanks for the video :)
kenner did make the card board death star as well it was exclusive to sears Canada. the card board death star was better i had one as a kid and loved it ,way more play value.
btw the palitoy x-wing had a black sticker on the back rather than the molded plastic part from kenner
cuda70gt it was Imported from Palitoy, also the Kenner Canada made slight modifications to this version of the Death Star and it was sold exclusively through Sears Canada. Very rare
That Junkman the palitoy death star had a large sticker on the bottom showing the star wars action figures.the image was the same as the 12 back cards where the camadian version was plain black. The kenner Canada death star had the words "trash compactor" printed in English and French above the garbage shoot.This toy was made by kenner Canada not just imported.
Also did you know there is a 3rd card board death star ? It was made by toltoy.
The american kids missed out on the best star wars toy.
The first part made me laugh lol MAN JUNK 😆
Wow I literally just commented lol
Great video, Junkman. But you forgot to say which version of the Death Star playset you preferred. No, wait, you did mention that. Several times. Love from Glasgow.
Now tell me how to fix the Death Star cannon. Mine broke when I was a kid. I bought a second DS about 20 years ago for parts. It's cannon is broken in the same way. I see yours is broken that way too. Lost cause? Should I just keep propping it up with a matchstick?
My cousins had the Palitoy Death Star and we are from Canada.
I couldn't get C3P0 to stand up on anything, much less trying to stand him on pegs inside the escape pod. He would just look drunk leaning his head against the inner pod wall bent at the waist. He had horrible legs 🤣
Kenner reused the Jawa base by repainting it white and using it as part of the Hoth Battle set!
If you were constructing a Death Star playset, perhaps out of popsicle sticks, what rooms would you include? I thought Kenner could have sold sections independently. I want an accurate design. Something large. It must have a corridor with a chasm. It must have another corridor with doors that lead to the trash compactor. You need a spot to park the Falcon.
Vader’s bathroom
I had (and still have) both battle stations, and they're both equally awesome.
Using them TOGETHER in tangent expanded all the possibilities of recreating scenes simultaneously (aka acting out the WHOLE movie) without having to "recycle" the same level to do so, which often meant removing an entire batch of figures to accommodate the "players" for another "scene".
For example, in the Kenner "Tower" set, the first floor had to double as the location where Vader & Tarkin made Leia witness the destruction of Alderaan, as well as the control room where the heroes (in Trooper disguise) left the droids to wait while they rescued the Princess from her cell... which was NOT in the Kenner tower set... but WAS in the Palitoy "dome" set. Palitoy also offered a specific control room where Vader and Tarkin hung out, leaving the first level of the tower set free to leave the droids.
It's a tossup as to which the better trash compacter is... the "chute" style and general accessibility win goes to Palitoy, but the orange "tank" of the tower set offered foam "trash" and a Dianoga monster.
The painted imagery on the Palitoy set was something that would hinder the literal-minded child unable to ignore the "presence" of Stormtrooper guards and Imperial officers in the main control room. Fortunately this was not that big of an issue for me, lol. It bugged me, but my imagination (like the Light Side of the Force) was stronger, hahaha.
My recommendation : if you can, GET BOTH. :-D
In fact, I went nuts one year and bought about 5 more of the tower sets. You place those things side by side, either in a "fan" formation (where all the elevator towers meet), or in an alternating arrangement (where it alternates between elevator tower and trash compactor), it's an impressive layout. The illustrated inserts do make it rather dark inside, though, so, if one were ambitious enough, one could install small LED or fluorescent lights to brighten the place up a bit, lol.
One major flaw of the "fan" formation, is the tractor beam control centres becomes a lot less "dangerous" for ole Obi-Wan, as the catwalks meet or overlap (depending how close together you wanna place the sets).
@That Junkman What always shocked me is even when Kenner bought out Palitoy, So there was no licensing issues... They still made changes!!! And that to me makes NO SENSE!
Even funnier, At the Exhibition I went to last year - The name Palitoy is more or less forgotten... :( The Whole exhibition said it was a display of 'All the original Kenner Releases' and it not until you got inside they even MENTIONED Palitoy! Still, It was amazing - I will have to share the photos I took on the Facebook Group....
I didn't get either Death Star playset, but I think I would have gone with the Palitoy version. Too bad you couldn't get both. It's the Death Star. It's the size of a moon.
Wasnt the action lever on the Palitoy cantina set on top of the playset instead of it being built in like the Kenner version? I kinda like the seating area built into the stairs on the Palitoy version.
I know it was different but I never could find any good details on how so
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Nice t shirt sir
Another excellent vid!
Just a better time in the 80s good times!
I definitely made my parents a few ashtrays growing up. Lol
Love your videos man. Brings back alot of memories. Thank u
If the Land Speeder is rockin' don't come a knockin'!!!
there were a few Kenner figures available in the UK cos I had a couple
i made a clay ash tray back in 1980
I owned neither Death Stars but the UK one looks like it would be more fun to play with. It actually looked more like a playset whereas the US one was just trash compactor, bridge, gun.
Mexico got the same Kenner stuff as in the US, if any, they got less stuff. The distributors only changed the packaging, sometimes (if not most of the times), they simpy put stickers over English text and logos. If Mexico got the playset in which the scapepod was, it is very likely that it was in the playset.
No really. They got a Boba Fett with a removable rocket and a jawa with a removable hood :)
I made a bog-roll holder in woodworking for my parents in the 80s, dad still uses it 30 years later.
*translator's note: Toilet roll holder*
Still catching up on old videos. Here in the U.K. I saw both X wings, with and without sounds. Plenty of other toys still made sounds, the falcon, snowspeeder, troop transporter and Ties all definitely did.
Junkman rules!
Palitoy was just down the road in Coalville in my home county of Leicestershire. Over here there are plenty of Revenge Of The Jedi figures packaged knocking about
No figures were ever placed and sold on revenge cards. Just saying
@@ThatJunkman no but many leaked out. A friend of mine back in the early 2000’ put an add all around Coalville asking if anyone would sell old figures. Many old palitoy workers add stuff in the attics and he got an unopened box of revenge figs along with many others and ships.
The Jawa play set was in a local store. You got one Jawa in each set. I took out one from each of the other packs,put them in the one my dad was buying me and ended up with my own Jawa tribe.
I,m still into collecting and adds to Austin collections, and for m also I collect fashion dolls also.
When I got the X-Wing for Xmas I was pretty darn mad when I discovered it did not have light and sound! I thought they ditched that later on. For the 2nd wave of toys or something. But now I've learned from your vid that they just wanted to save money from day one. As a kid I'd spell out every letter of the 12 back. And it darn well did say "light and sound". For years I wanted that X-wing. And when I finally got it... disappointment. What a load of baloney!
Luckily, now-a-days European and US releases don't differ. But it puzzled me for years why my X-Wing didn't have the light and sound.
P.S. I was disappointed too that R2-D2 didn't fit in the X-wing. His head sticks out, but it's just a big button that you have push to unfold the wings. Ha ha.
meneerjansen00 they did make an x wing that you could remove r2d2 but that was for empire or Jedi ,I think it was one of the last things the y did
The Palitoy Death Star was my favourite toy of all. It was a stage that you could really use your imagination with.
That Junkman is wise and fair. :)
I hate those videos where someone says "We had this, and you had that, but your one suuuuucks! Only ours is good!" Instead, Junkman tells us that these are different, but both are vintage Star Wars, beloved by kids and made with lots of care and heart, and therefore both are good!
Great work, Junkman! :)
I have the remains of another type of Land speeder,it's bigger than the regular one,and was "sonic controlled "I believe it was a JC Penny exclusive
Yes the RC one
I had a whole lot of figures, but the only vehicle I had was the Cloud Car. It pretty much sucked. Used it as a makeshift laser pistol most of the time.
Your story about your amigo whose mom used the escape pod as an ashtray reminds me of something that happened to me back in the 90's. My mom (God rest her soul) was a smoker back then. I was heavy into building Star Trek models. I was also heavy into Coke (-a-Cola, you judgmental, self-righteous ....aaaahhh....never mind....) Anyhoo, we were watching Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (well, my mom was watching it, for me, it was background noise). I was working on a K't'inga class battlecruiser, and had gone through a few cans of Coke. (Rrraaaapapapapapapapappapapapa.....the Great Cornholioooooooo....!!!) ... Ahem! .....moving on.... At one point, I blindly reached over to grab a can of Coke I had *thought* I was currently drinking. Shows what I get for not looking....as, when I tried to drink, I suddenly got a mouthful of backwash and cigarette ash! Cough....sput....gag....sput...sput....cough.....GAG!!!!!! My mom was laughing her head off, and pretty soon, so was I... largely because I wish there had been a camera set up at that moment, because I could see in my mind's eye how the whole thing would have to had looked. It wasn't a prank she had planned or anything. There were just several empty cans of Coke on the table I used to build my models, and she had used one as an ashtray (perhaps a day or two earlier.... great housekeeping on my part, eh?). Ya' hadda be there. LOL!
martok2112 damn. Lol. Kind gross but hey good times right lol
@@ThatJunkman Indeed. Indeed. Thank you for sharing your videos and collections with us, Junkman. Keep up the great work, and May the Force Be With You and Yours.
UK kids got screwed in the 70s, however US collectors are getting screwed now as Palitoy Death Star and other Palitoy boxed items are worth a fortune!!
would love to have that Death Star for sure
That's weird! I think in Canada we got both of them because I remember that cardboard Death Star and the plastic one.
Yes both
@@ThatJunkman I wonder how that worked out? Did we have a trade agreement with England at the time as well as the U.S.A.? Or did my friend get one from a relative in England? I do remember some Star Wars figures that were made in Taiwan as those were the ones that broke the easiest.
I'm confused, I'm from the U.K. and all my stuff was Kenner (back in the 80's).
The Palitoy Death Star is really cool. It recreates more sets from the Death Star. The Kenner Death Star is super cool too, better quality for sure that a card stock playset, but the design of the card stock is still really cool and fun.
Speaking of bar stools for decades I thought the drum on the ewok village playset was a bar stool.
You should do on Australia’s Toltoys
@That Junkman I’m not sure how much this question is asked or if it’s obvious and I’m not seeing it, but do you only collect the Kenner & old Vintage stuff? Or have you been collecting stuff like Clones from the Saga lines and Clone Wars Lines? Also I feel like I know the answer to this next question. But are you a Prequel type of guy or Original trilogy type of guy? Thanks for reading this if/when you do
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Star Wars Discovery I buy stuff if like it. Black series if they look cool. Pick up other things here and there. Just depends on what it is and if not crazy over priced like Hasbro loves to do.
Tbh i had both playsets...US version was from a carboot/garage sale for £10. its not complete but 95 % uk version has a lot more immersive play value
Love it all Darrin, so interesting 👏👀
Love that bit about the 80’s ashtrays!
John Faulk well it was true :)
Im still a starwars fan regarless how old im i. This toy was the one that i grew up. Wish to return back to those days......... Nowadays kids dont have the toys that they had back in the 80s. 80s was a good era to grew up. Everything now is technology and no imagenations with toys.
Hope to meet you someday junkman
Palitoy did include a free Jawa figure with the playset so we got something at least. However we never got the Dewback over here.
yeah ! i have the cardboard deathstar with box ! amazing playset, really addictive and looks very 70's/80's🙂
Great knowledge
Nice one, cheers mate, I didn't know any of this.
Great video junk man! I'm hoping to add some palitoy stuff to my collection at some point.
Same
The cantina bar had a cardboard base, it wasn’t a sticker.
Yep. The sticker was on the bar
Ahhh The 80's when you could make ashtrays in school...and mom could send ya in the store to buy her smokes..lol
The wonderful 80,s had a burst of exciting toys. Sadly Austin is gone to a better place. He loved He_man and I do to and show.
BAHAHAHAHAHA!! Logo prop "fail"!!
(It was actually awesome, lmao!)
Don't quite get this as I had no problem getting kenner or palitoy versions of most especially the figures,the palitoy Han Solo was far better than kenners as his head was massive,didn't even know that one was a UK and the other was usa brand. I remember the clone wars toys coming out for the cartoon and my son was into them the quality was fantastic when first released with everything possible posable,move forward just a couple of years and dumbed down to 1970's style but still £10 a pop and as far as I know Savagge Oppress in his full outfit with light sabre was never released in the uk.
4:47, I would have preferred the European Death Star playset. Looked colourful.