I should stop building computers - ASUSTOR Flashstor NAS

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  • @LinusTechTips
    @LinusTechTips  11 місяців тому +208

    Minor visual error at 1:04 - the graphic says 2GB but it should read 32GB, as the kit has two 16GB sticks of RAM. Sorry for the flub!

    • @Bighenlittlecock
      @Bighenlittlecock 11 місяців тому +1

      Not good enough!

    • @Tasz_
      @Tasz_ 11 місяців тому +16

      2*16=2 confirmed

    • @armsofzeus
      @armsofzeus 11 місяців тому +3

      @@unknwnd 2+16(0)=2

    • @jamesonmourafetis1780
      @jamesonmourafetis1780 11 місяців тому +2

      There’s another error at 5:56. Roon Labs is the popular among audiophiles music server software, not Rune Audio.

    • @brutalhonesty07
      @brutalhonesty07 11 місяців тому +1

      That PPNAS is really turned on now! 😂

  • @JeffGeerling
    @JeffGeerling 11 місяців тому +2989

    This NAS is currently a little pricey all in, but with how quickly NVMe prices are dropping, I think it will make even more sense for those who want a quiet little NAS and don't only need maximum capacity.

    • @Pipe0481
      @Pipe0481 11 місяців тому +22

      Do you think it would be possible to do this on some sort of Pi? I'm not sure if you'd have enough PCIe lanes or enough performance for the RAID

    • @shephusted2714
      @shephusted2714 11 місяців тому +21

      no this is extremely janky for the price perf - compared to what even red shirt jeff could do

    • @touma-san91
      @touma-san91 11 місяців тому +12

      @@Pipe0481 Jeff does have video about NAS made using Pi, although he used 2.5" SSD's for it

    • @Sakthivel2542
      @Sakthivel2542 11 місяців тому

      Hello there

    • @jamesmcjamesington631
      @jamesmcjamesington631 11 місяців тому +16

      I think you're imagining a market for this. The percentage of people that purchases a NAS? 0.2%
      The percentage of thos that would pay extra for silence? 0.2%.
      The market for this is apparently 0.02%.

  • @PROG-MAN
    @PROG-MAN 11 місяців тому +185

    As a casual computer enjoyer, the little popups explaining uncommon terms was very helpful. I now know roughly what JBOD means and what a docker is :D

    • @ShowXTech
      @ShowXTech 11 місяців тому +7

      JBOD stands for Just (a) Bunch Of Disks/Drives

    • @zconiglietti
      @zconiglietti 11 місяців тому +7

      Don't google what docking is 😂

    • @m4heshd
      @m4heshd 11 місяців тому +2

      Jacked Bod 😎

  • @TheNuclearGeek
    @TheNuclearGeek 11 місяців тому +69

    This is like SO close (may still be worth it). Loved everything but the processor. I hope there is a Rev 2 with a processor that can last.
    It's a NAS so it's not something you want to replace in a year or two. I want it for a decade. Everything else is great, but that processor is just gonna get worse and it seems too strained doing some things now. It may certainly be worth it for some people that just want a new NAS and don't stream from it, though. I hope enough people to get an upgraded one.
    P.S. I would really like LTT too spend more time in the "mid-tier" space again with things like this. It's fun looking at $100,000 servers but it doesn't really help most people and prices are running so high right now, we need more practical idea coverage.

    • @Gabu_
      @Gabu_ 11 місяців тому +3

      It's really something beyond my understanding how these companies insist on using slow Intel CPUs on these products - did they fall off a truck? Also, the latest N-series processors aren't much faster than the N5105 either.

    •  11 місяців тому +5

      ​@@Gabu_ energy efficiency.
      These mobile Celerons are great. They have a decent igpu with support for Hardware HDR tone-mapping, the compute power of a 7th gen i3 while sipping power.
      Compared to the J-series desktop ones they're better in every aspect, but they aren't as popular on desktop board unfortunately.

    • @Gabu_
      @Gabu_ 11 місяців тому +1

      @ You mean fortunately? They only match the slowest 7th gen i3s performance, and only in multithreading (the i3s are dual cores, a sin in 2023) - keep in mind those same chips still can't match 2nd gen i7s.
      Sure, for energy starved applications these cpus make sense, but do those 10-20W REALLY warrant giving up on 500% performance or more?

    • @fitybux4664
      @fitybux4664 11 місяців тому

      @@Gabu_ you might care about energy efficiency for: solar off grid applications, mobile car applications, ???

    • @TheNuclearGeek
      @TheNuclearGeek 11 місяців тому +2

      @Péter Friedrich see, is it "energy efficient" or just really underpowered?
      I don't get how it is more energy efficient to keep the whole system up and waiting on parity calcs and data transfers for twice as long.

  • @ASUSTOR_YT
    @ASUSTOR_YT 11 місяців тому +2558

    Thanks Linus for taking a look at our All-NVMe NAS! It was a pleasure getting this out to you and taking a selfie with you at Computex! If anyone has any comments, questions, praise and criticism, feel free to reply to me and I will reply to you! We do have to notify you that the Flashstor is not drop proof.
    Thanks again! -Marco.

    • @The_Archive_Of_History
      @The_Archive_Of_History 11 місяців тому +11

      ​@@Noob._gamer cloud PC's the future

    • @kvassman_
      @kvassman_ 11 місяців тому +68

      ​@@Noob._gamer cool story bro

    • @kevinbezon3108
      @kevinbezon3108 11 місяців тому +60

      @@Noob._gamer kind of a L opinion tbh

    • @akatsukiakg5836
      @akatsukiakg5836 11 місяців тому +9

      how much time of development had this project?

    • @Metal_Maxine
      @Metal_Maxine 11 місяців тому +189

      _We do have to notify you that the Flashstor is not drop proof_ 🤣

  • @thexgamer8240
    @thexgamer8240 11 місяців тому +1925

    It’s always nice to see Yvonne’s husband and his husband working together in a video.

    • @david61391
      @david61391 11 місяців тому +104

      Does Luke know he's cheating on him?!

    • @TheNuclearGeek
      @TheNuclearGeek 11 місяців тому +46

      Yeah I though Jake was Linus & Yvonne's um...what's the non-BDSM/Canadian version of "gimp"? He's whatever that is.

    • @mynt4033
      @mynt4033 11 місяців тому +52

      @@TheNuclearGeek Are you imagining Jake in bondage?

    • @Lighthouse_out_of_order
      @Lighthouse_out_of_order 11 місяців тому +38

      @@mynt4033 Stop! stooooop!

    • @TheNuclearGeek
      @TheNuclearGeek 11 місяців тому +28

      @@mynt4033 I WASN'T...now I have to get that out of my head, gee thanks.

  • @michaelstora70
    @michaelstora70 9 місяців тому +1

    I believe there are 4 PCI lanes dedicated to the 12 M.2 slots. I suspect if you built Raid5x4 and chose slots on different PCI lanes (probably ever 3rd) you could maximize writes.

  • @ThePolish2107
    @ThePolish2107 11 місяців тому +358

    I wager there's a mistake at 1:07, should be 32gb kit instead of 2gb

    • @eurithamusara9696
      @eurithamusara9696 11 місяців тому +7

      Eagle eyes😂😂😂😂😂

    • @rhanny1377
      @rhanny1377 11 місяців тому +25

      That's just some Canada math....2x16 = 2

    • @deadpin
      @deadpin 11 місяців тому +20

      How do they keep missing things like this :( I get it that most of the folks there are working at a "media" company, and not a "tech" company, but there's just too many slipups.

    • @TXPer
      @TXPer 11 місяців тому +4

      so asustor has 2x more ram 😂

    • @walkinmn
      @walkinmn 11 місяців тому +5

      @@deadpinY Because they're humans. That kind of mistakes happen in everything written all the time. I'm sure they proof read it with software but that kind of mistake looks to me like a copy paste one

  • @artemisDev
    @artemisDev 11 місяців тому +50

    This is such a awesome way to have a portable NAS. Small, lightweight and no risk of disks failing due to bumps.

  • @66rabidmonkey
    @66rabidmonkey 11 місяців тому +2

    The latest version of Unraid does indeed support trim Without having to install a separate package for that. It is now built in.

  • @tooottooot2543
    @tooottooot2543 11 місяців тому +2

    Some of these nas boxes are getting quite good for the money.
    I bought a teramaster box with 4x sata, 2x halfspeed nvme, 2 sodim slots and a N5095. I slapped Freenas straight on it and its been great. I could probably frankenstine something together cheaper, but it wouldnt sit quietly on a shelf and only go down on update restarts. :)

  • @x9nerlan691
    @x9nerlan691 11 місяців тому +7

    9:56 SCRAPYARD WARS RETURN????? My life would be complete

  • @WhoWatchesVideos
    @WhoWatchesVideos 11 місяців тому +348

    Now, imagine this device with a socket in it and cooling for a 65W CPU. That would be a hell of a barebones NAS.

    • @SyntheticFuture
      @SyntheticFuture 11 місяців тому +22

      65 watt cooler probably makes it 50% bigger and twice as heavy 😶

    • @boltinabottle6307
      @boltinabottle6307 11 місяців тому +14

      So I should imagine a completely different product? First thing that comes to mind is The Throngler.

    • @chemicallust77
      @chemicallust77 11 місяців тому +5

      Yeah...a Core I3 or I5 would have been a game changer as far as performance, and worth the extra $

    • @bilditup1
      @bilditup1 11 місяців тому +12

      I think bumping up to 35W plus a decent iGPU with av1 enc/dec would be much more enticing tbqh

    • @ryanthompson3737
      @ryanthompson3737 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@Synthetic_Future No necessarily... currently sure, but in the next few years I imagine we won't even be using traditional coolers in this unique setups. One avenue is Frore, and with a few years of development, they could like produce a 65w capacity cooler that's literally a couple cm thick on a 4 x 1 inch strip

  • @charlesbehrmann8259
    @charlesbehrmann8259 11 місяців тому +33

    Ever since Linus has announced his retirement I feel like you can tell he is having more fun in his videos. He just seems more happy.

    • @DerPolygonianer
      @DerPolygonianer 11 місяців тому +5

      Yes, I feel like he is somehow less weighed down by other stuff and can enjoy the moment more.

    • @arkayngaming727
      @arkayngaming727 10 місяців тому +5

      He's not retiring, he's changing roles

  • @Carts.
    @Carts. 11 місяців тому +5

    I thought unraid had trim support as of 6.11, also 6.12 (which is at release candidate stage) has native zfs. Makes it a really interesting competitor to truenas now

  • @ashleyavenuemusic
    @ashleyavenuemusic 11 місяців тому +6

    0:03 casual swastika

  • @SkylarsTerribleMemes
    @SkylarsTerribleMemes 11 місяців тому +32

    this is super cool. would love to see one with a beefier cpu
    the screwless m.2 quick release is really cool but i would hope that it's a small replaceable part so that if one breaks you don't have to replace the entire thing.

    • @commanderoof4578
      @commanderoof4578 11 місяців тому

      @Scott Myers until you realise that the CPU is only capable of 10gbps…
      For this type of application you need at least 1 thunderbolt 40gbps port
      Cus otherwise your stuck using IT instead of an attached device cus that speed sucks
      Even if it was populated with 12x 512GB drives it would still take at least 102 minutes to read the full capacity and thats assuming it maintains 1GB/s the whole time

  • @LarveyOfficial
    @LarveyOfficial 11 місяців тому +46

    Fun Fact: At 2:20 Linus says Unraid doesn't support TRIM, but as of Unraid 6.11 it does support TRIM :D

    • @mrsittingmongoose
      @mrsittingmongoose 11 місяців тому +4

      Yep it fully supports SSDs correctly outside of the main array. So you can do an xfs, btrs, or ZFS array with ssds. And as of yesterday those arrays can be up to 60 drives!

    • @SpinnerSpite
      @SpinnerSpite 11 місяців тому

      Ok nerd

    • @LarveyOfficial
      @LarveyOfficial 11 місяців тому

      @@SpinnerSpite meany

    • @harriska
      @harriska 11 місяців тому +4

      @@SpinnerSpite you know which channel Ur watching right

  • @ChfHappySack
    @ChfHappySack 11 місяців тому

    My nas is heavily moddified and upgraded and I love it. It's an old HP Mediasmart EX495 that I got on ebay and I upgraded the cpu from a dual core celery stick, to a core 2 quad Q8200. The ram was 2gb of ddr2 but I upgraded to a 4gb stick (max amount). The machine didn't have any output, but I bought a special adapter that fits to the motherboard and gives you a VGA port and added it to the case (dremel work required). I went into the bios and changed the boot disk from one of the hard drive bays to one of the usb ports and installed OpenMediaVault as my operating system so I can utilize all 4 hard drive bays for storage instead of 3. I got 4 2TB seagate hard drives totaling 8TB of storage but set them up in Raid 5 so I get roughly 5.84TiB. Overall, I'm very pleased with the result. I spent much less for the size and quality compared to modern day NAS machines. Obviously not as fast, 1 gigabit, but I also prevented this equipment from becoming e-waste and repurposed it for years to come. It serves as my Jellyfin server and basic file storage across my network. In all, I probably spent around $430.

  • @goldark3
    @goldark3 11 місяців тому

    i like how you handle your stuff gently and carefuly. Show a lot of professionalism

  • @ailivac
    @ailivac 11 місяців тому +7

    13:27 My printer's cancel button just locks up the whole machine. The only way to actually cancel something is to unplug it; the cancel button just adds an extra time-wasting step.

    • @eurithamusara9696
      @eurithamusara9696 11 місяців тому +2

      😂😂 Exactly the cancel button is just a waste of time

  • @themacbookgamer
    @themacbookgamer 11 місяців тому +207

    I wanted to build my own storage server (despite only having used half of my 512gb drive) but I think this might be better

    • @kermitthefragg
      @kermitthefragg 11 місяців тому +37

      a 512gb drive? in 2023? You absolutely do not need a NAS lol

    • @clark85
      @clark85 11 місяців тому +46

      @@kermitthefragg everyone could use a nas for backup

    • @SPEEDFREAK6988
      @SPEEDFREAK6988 11 місяців тому +11

      512? And here I am setting at almost 5tb and need to expand lmao

    • @leonro
      @leonro 11 місяців тому +12

      Sad that unless you want to pay like over $1K you'll get a Celeron or even just an ARM CPU. Why is it so hard to put in an i3 or ryzen 3? Those CPUs are really cheap and so much more powerful... There's no need for i5 and up either.
      Edit: I think I should add that those ARM CPUs are extremely basic and slow, these Celerons are much better if you have to choose between one or the other. You won't get some flagship snapdragon within any of these pre-built NAS systems.

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 11 місяців тому +3

      Theres a real advantage to using an actual server/server board - remote management and headless video from bootup, even in the BIOS

  • @Taderbaraeg
    @Taderbaraeg 11 місяців тому

    Call me weird, but that bleep moment around 12:28 got to my heart...🖤 Subscribed, after decades'ish. Thanks for all your content

  • @DaleEarnhardtsSeatbelt
    @DaleEarnhardtsSeatbelt 11 місяців тому +1

    Saw this on STH, thought it was pretty rad. I already have an unraid box. Cant wait for the official zfs update that's right around the corner. Going to have a meaty flash pool soon. Flash rebuilding/resilvering will be a godsend.

  • @IanDresarie
    @IanDresarie 11 місяців тому +6

    If I didn't have a solid NAS already and a requirement for it to be able to run an MC server, I would seriously conisder this for home use. it's small, customizable and has a crapton of capacity. I like it a lot!

  • @BonusCrook
    @BonusCrook 11 місяців тому +9

    1:10 2gb ram kit with 2x16G stick arrangement

  • @chrisschneider7609
    @chrisschneider7609 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for doing a deep dive on this... I'm hoping to see synology pick up the idea. Everything I do is with dsm now, so it would be great to have something like this... plex not required, it's all about the vm workloads.

  • @erice6755
    @erice6755 11 місяців тому

    At 6:05 correction is needed on the text that comes up. It comes up in the left corner and say:
    ASUStore 32GB kit..... (ECC)
    NAStore 32GB kit...... (non-ecc)
    Then Linus holds up an 8GB stick also right after Jake says they are putting in 16GB because that's all it can handle. Therefore the text should say ASUStore 16GB kit......
    Thanks for always bringing good content! 👍

  • @starboy020396
    @starboy020396 11 місяців тому +42

    Love the 2GB's of RAM on the Ryzen system

  • @ampgammer
    @ampgammer 11 місяців тому +7

    As a full time RV person.. I NEED THIS! ive been looking to build my own SSD based NAS for media storage while RVing and they are all too big.. TELL ME THIS RUNS ON 12v!

    • @garrettturner7383
      @garrettturner7383 11 місяців тому

      it's either 12v or 48v, If it were 48v (or 24v Idk) you can get a step up boost converter for whatever voltage as long as its dc and below 10-15 ampss

    • @ampgammer
      @ampgammer 11 місяців тому

      @@garrettturner7383 Of course, I just find it easier if its a single voltage through the system.. I usually ad a buck converter for lower than 12v devices any way to be sure that when the voltage dips below 12v, its just a preference

    • @leonro
      @leonro 11 місяців тому

      According to the guys at Asustor in the comment section it's 12v.

  • @dafe3106
    @dafe3106 11 місяців тому

    I actually upgraded my plex server recently from a celeron j5040 machine to a 5600g which now doubles as an office/web surfing and even light gaming pc
    I just used a cheap b450 board with 4 sata ports and threw in another sata controller for additional drives.
    - What are you even doing with your life if your library is below 50tb? -
    Whole build (no drives) in an old and free office case with 3d printed accessories was around 350 Eurodollars including a new psu that is really efficient at low loads. The bequiet purepower 11 400w turned our to be a better choice than most 250w psus, while also not breaking the bank.
    Idling behaviour is also super chill, as ryzen g is basically a socketed laptop cpu and tuned well for efficiency. Thought of going intel first, but since 12th gen they threw efficiency at idle pretty much overboard for some reason.

  • @Akuba
    @Akuba 11 місяців тому +4

    9:41 Yes, ports can be scanned quickly, but a simple port change keeps a lot of scriptkiddies away. As an example, I had so many attacks on a mysql server that it became unstable. After I changed the port, the server became smooth again.

    • @ckh.joseph
      @ckh.joseph 11 місяців тому +2

      In fact, asustor just got hacked not long ago with ransomeware attackers attacking the 8001 and 8000 ports with some day 0 vulnerability. Am a victim of the attack. So switching away from these 2 ports somewhat is useful.

    • @hanifarroisimukhlis5989
      @hanifarroisimukhlis5989 11 місяців тому

      Eh not exactly a good practice anyway, since it's only delaying time to get hacked. It's always a good idea to practice defense in depth, like firewall with IP ban/timeout, and definitely not putting vulnerable interface out in open. And of course, *never open RDP at any moment*

    • @mads7790
      @mads7790 11 місяців тому

      Changing the port to a non common port, can keep a lot of broad scope attacks away.

  • @MyYTaccountName
    @MyYTaccountName 11 місяців тому +14

    Is anyone else in the same “I love building computers but haven’t played many games in recent years and I know I’d be wasting my money and/or feel immediate buyer’s remorse” boat?
    I built computers every few years since 2000 when I played lots of mmorpg games and I now have zero time, but the itch to build a computer is always there.

    • @cameronfrye5514
      @cameronfrye5514 11 місяців тому +2

      I went through a looooong stretch of this. I almost completely stopped gaming in maybe 2004 or 2005? had nothing but laptops until about 2018. The bug bit HARD at that point, and I now have a gaming rig, a low power "content" PC just for streaming, an HTPC in the living room and a server running in the basement with my networking gear.

    • @stevencrisp753
      @stevencrisp753 11 місяців тому

      Yup me - to be fair though when I play I play Cities Skylines more than any other game and with the sequel coming out I may be able to justify a new machine to get decent performance out of it (my current one runs it but once the city gets up to 100K+ population it can be very, very slow)
      Then I can semi-retire the current one to be the media mule in the corner of the living room (and if NAND prices keep dropping maybe even retrofit as an entirely SSD based machine for the quietness benefits...)

    • @Gabu_
      @Gabu_ 11 місяців тому +1

      Building the computer is half of the fun in having a PC to begin with.

    • @stevencrisp753
      @stevencrisp753 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Gabu_ agreed - also planning the build is a good part of that - sitting on partspicker and other websites shopping around for deals and planning and scheming 😛

    • @hillbillysamurai
      @hillbillysamurai 11 місяців тому +1

      Definitely. Built a high end gaming PC but only ever use it to watch movies

  • @AxR558
    @AxR558 11 місяців тому +48

    I always think it's a shame that you don't cover more consumer NAS hardware. I get that storage servers are much more exciting, but I'd love to know what you'd recommend as a low power, always on consumer grade unit - or at very least how they compare in terms of features/performance etc

    • @Hybris51129
      @Hybris51129 11 місяців тому +2

      What is the use case for a consumer NAS? Why not have your storage on a local machine that is just networked to the rest of your devices as needed instead of having a completely separate unit?

    • @MycaeWitchofHyphae
      @MycaeWitchofHyphae 11 місяців тому +10

      @@Hybris51129 power draw for one. My home NAS is wildly more power efficient than spinning up and running my desktop every time I need to access my files.

    • @cameronfrye5514
      @cameronfrye5514 11 місяців тому +10

      @@Hybris51129 A consumer NAS typically uses far less power than a PC, so in places where electricity is expensive they pay for themselves that way. They also typically use a Linux based OS, so configured properly they are more secure to leave connected to your network than say a Windows PC you never look at. Most modern consumer NAS products also have apps on them that are better than the ones you can get on a PC, things like photo management and security NVRs. Most of them are also quieter than a PC, so leaving them running in an office or bedroom is less intrusive. Lots more reasons, but those are a few.

    • @ASUSTOR_YT
      @ASUSTOR_YT 11 місяців тому +2

      I've been emailing Colton since Computex 2019.

    • @ASUSTOR_YT
      @ASUSTOR_YT 11 місяців тому +5

      @@Hybris51129 Well. It's easier. If I leave my gaming PC on 24/7, I'm wasting power. At the same time, a small machine that uses little power, whether it's a prebuild like ours or a DIY solution, can be on to do the scheduled backups needed of my data to keep data protected while my daily driver rig is turned off.

  • @alt5494
    @alt5494 11 місяців тому +2

    A mini dtx motherboard version of this custom board would be insanely useful. Current gen CPUs with OC ddr5 & eight gen4 drives would be ideal.

  • @socksforllamas
    @socksforllamas 11 місяців тому +3

    The music management system audiophiles use is Roon, not whatever “RuneAudio” is. Pretty cool if you have a big library of your own music.

  • @kanecitizen
    @kanecitizen 11 місяців тому +52

    it's not about the size, it's about effectiveness!

    • @philipcooper8297
      @philipcooper8297 11 місяців тому +14

      That's not quite what she said.

    • @darksiders2002
      @darksiders2002 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@philipcooper8297😂

    • @MortemRex
      @MortemRex 11 місяців тому

      All that matters is you can hear the macaroni stirring

    • @Sakthivel2542
      @Sakthivel2542 11 місяців тому +4

      If it's not tight it's not Right

    • @GLXTCHYY
      @GLXTCHYY 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Sakthivel2542😂😂😂

  • @timothyfrost2486
    @timothyfrost2486 11 місяців тому +3

    The Jake/Linus combo is fun to watch. Sounds definitely be more often. Maybe some TechLinked episodes?

  • @MikeHarris1984
    @MikeHarris1984 11 місяців тому +2

    STH did a review of both of these models. Freaking pretty damn cool little SSD NAS!

  • @arniixedits
    @arniixedits 11 місяців тому +2

    7:28 it's a jump scare for me , i had my pc running next to me .... still traumatized from 2 psu failures (corsair + coolermaster)

  • @haifishtime
    @haifishtime 11 місяців тому +9

    Could you do a DIY version of this with more power with a framework board as the base? Would love to see that.

  • @Dom_Mason
    @Dom_Mason 11 місяців тому +34

    I like this tech of using m.2's x 12 for a NAS. You really don't need much processing power when you are just using it to view movies on local LAN etc. Nice! Thanks for bringing this to our attention Linus.

    • @fafiteee
      @fafiteee 11 місяців тому +2

      yes, but to be fair if all you're doing is watching movies then any ssd, especially nvme drives are extremely overkill. even 4k full quality movies run just fine on a hard drive.

    • @3MZFE
      @3MZFE 11 місяців тому +1

      @@fafiteeenot when scrubbing though.

    • @Default78334
      @Default78334 11 місяців тому

      @@fafiteee Sure, but we're hitting the point now where NVMe is reaching parity with spinning rust at the low end. You can buy a 1TB (DRAM-less QLC) NVMe for the same price as a 1TB 2.5" spinner today.

    • @trignite
      @trignite 11 місяців тому

      @@Default78334 Who tf buys a mechanical drive smaller than 8tb now? Its not worth it, dumb argument.

  • @Ozz465
    @Ozz465 6 місяців тому

    The back and forth at min 2 and on is gold.

  • @PsRohrbaugh
    @PsRohrbaugh 11 місяців тому

    I have a sprinter van with 9 seats that I also live in. I want a file server I don't have to remember to turn off when I hit the road, or for my passengers to access on the road. I will be buying this just for the vibration resistance vs mechanical drives.

  • @AtmasOne
    @AtmasOne 11 місяців тому +25

    those subtle banters like at 13:06 are what i live for on this channel. takes away a too serious note in general, jake being just absolutely unbothered and stress-free and linus slowly looking like christian bale in the mechanic because he's the head of everything. a nice clash.

  • @telefactfiles5430
    @telefactfiles5430 11 місяців тому +16

    Always love watching this father-son bond 🤗

    • @Lighthouse_out_of_order
      @Lighthouse_out_of_order 11 місяців тому +2

      Who is who?

    • @ShouPow
      @ShouPow 11 місяців тому

      Jake is the father ofc.

    • @Lighthouse_out_of_order
      @Lighthouse_out_of_order 11 місяців тому

      @@ShouPow But he's way younger!

    • @ShouPow
      @ShouPow 11 місяців тому +1

      One of them has a proclivity to break things and one continuously huffs in disapproval. Jake is the dad

  • @duncanmurphy8085
    @duncanmurphy8085 3 місяці тому +1

    12:07 .apk isn't just used by Android, Alpine Linux, a distribution used for lightweight servers and docker containers also uses .apk for it's Alpine Package Manager. I think it would make more sense than using the JVM, especially since ASUSTOR packages do have architecture specific variants like a native linux package would.

  • @SinisterSlay1
    @SinisterSlay1 11 місяців тому +3

    Cheap NAS comparison would be good. So everyone can have their own home NAS. Also explaining drives, the semi uselessness of red drives for home use, etc. Maybe even super nerd version showing how to build one, replace a drive, etc.

  • @oafkad
    @oafkad 11 місяців тому +45

    Over the years I feel like Jake's heckling skills have gotten incredibly good. At the start he was kinda rough and not really funny. But very quickly he became one of the best folks on the team. And these days I'm always really excited to see him in a video because I know its gonna be a great time. I see why Linus married him.

  • @TheThagenesis
    @TheThagenesis 11 місяців тому +4

    I've built a FANLESS file server with a celeron a couple of years ago. I think it's a better option when you only have space in the living room. if it's really quiet you can hear the two 8 TB WD red tho

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru 11 місяців тому

      SSDs should have some cooling. Yes, maybe you could get away using only heatsinks, but 12 of them will cook it.

    • @giornikitop5373
      @giornikitop5373 11 місяців тому

      @@vadnegru i don't think this system has the cpu power or the pci-e capacity to push those nvme's to get that hot. still, a better cooling is always welcome.

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru 11 місяців тому

      @@giornikitop5373 in any case, looks like you could just remove the fan without breaking the warranty.

  • @brokenice420
    @brokenice420 11 місяців тому +1

    When these two come together, it is always chaos

  • @georgeindestructible
    @georgeindestructible 11 місяців тому +1

    Would love to have one of these but for something insignificant because if i get myself a decent HDD(s), PSU and UPS (with pure sine wave output, surge protection, noise suppresion and good avr, basically things you should be doing with this anyway) on a custom NAS build, you are unlikely to have drives fail, and there is no write limit and data is far easier recoverable than this if an NVME fails.

  • @j.v.b.4040
    @j.v.b.4040 11 місяців тому +3

    APK stands for ASUSTOR application package in this case. It's their linux packaging format used by their APKG package manager

    • @fqdn
      @fqdn 11 місяців тому +1

      Oh man... So we have Android -> APK, Alpine Linux -> APK, ASUSTOR -> APK
      I recently packaged something for Alpine and looking up stuff related to that was already annoying enough. Poor ASUSTOR packagers.

  • @zacharyharwell351
    @zacharyharwell351 11 місяців тому +3

    Something like this would be great for my parents; they're not super tech savvy nor are willing to spend a ton on that stuff, but they need the storage. I could set this up in pretty easily and then let it be

    • @afrohealer
      @afrohealer 11 місяців тому

      you could set them up with a nas and a few SSD . or even HDD. for a much lower price .. I picked up a couple on fb marketplace for a steal. so cheap i go tone for my brother. so now we are gona use each others homes as offsite backups of each of our data

    • @ASUSTOR_YT
      @ASUSTOR_YT 11 місяців тому

      Thank you for the support!

  • @TmanT321
    @TmanT321 11 місяців тому

    That beep at 7:27 is almost the same as the one on the UPS in my server rack and I panicked for a second XD

  • @digitaldemonicdavros
    @digitaldemonicdavros 11 місяців тому +1

    This is going to create great home network centres with minimal space. Might be able to install in or under a desk with some extra air flow when ssd nvme gets faster.

  • @drewgi7543
    @drewgi7543 11 місяців тому +3

    For plex you probably didn't enable hardware transcoding, you shouldn't see much CPU usage because its on the igu.

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 11 місяців тому

      Maybe, but 5105 is pretty weak anyhow. Good for a cheap server though, to run stuff like home assistant, pihole, and the like, e.g. under proxmoxx

    • @drewgi7543
      @drewgi7543 11 місяців тому

      @@BoraHorzaGobuchul Yeah, but it has 10th gen UHD with 24 EU so should handle video transcoding just fine. Pretty great as a plex server.

  • @Quettesh
    @Quettesh 11 місяців тому +10

    Unraid has SSD support, just not for the main array. You can create BTRFS pool though (or ZFS in the newest version).

    • @matthewlafleur5147
      @matthewlafleur5147 11 місяців тому +1

      and trim was added in 6.11

    • @DamianSheesh
      @DamianSheesh 11 місяців тому

      @@matthewlafleur5147 came here to say this. I was personally offended.

  • @JustSomeDinosaurPerson
    @JustSomeDinosaurPerson 11 місяців тому

    Only issue with the NAS is the CPU. If they would bump it just a couple of tiers or even use an ARM processor instead (since it is running android anyway), it would be perfect for a lot of my use cases.
    A low wattage but strong ARM based CPU would work wonders for a NAS like this.

    • @fitybux4664
      @fitybux4664 11 місяців тому

      Who says it's running Android? They are just idiots. APK in this instance isn't about Android.

  • @MarcusTheDorkus
    @MarcusTheDorkus 11 місяців тому +1

    I was just looking 2 days ago to see if any of the current NAS options had processors that could beat out an 11 year old 6-core Xeon @ 1.9 GHz. I was very surprised to find that most of them were just barely faster due to the processors being either Atom or Celeron. There were a couple that had Ryzen embedded chips, but they were both released in 2018 which means they are Zen 1. Those were a good jump above the Xeon at least, but with less of a power consuption advantage as the other chips and being out of date already, I might as well just buy another used server CPU.

  • @kittybrowneye3163
    @kittybrowneye3163 11 місяців тому +6

    Imagine paying $70 for a screwdriver

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 11 місяців тому

      Nothing strange about it. I have a neat rush 72 backpack for like 180usd, and an Ogio renegade backpack for 160, which some might argue is crazy for a backpack. But I know these will most likely last for decades, and are very functional.
      If you use a tool a lot, investing in one that while expensive, provides good functionality and is pleasant to use is the way to go.

    • @flameshana9
      @flameshana9 11 місяців тому

      @@BoraHorzaGobuchul The backpack doesn't seem anywhere near as durable and rugged as proper gear. And for $70 I can buy a full on power drill that will be used in construction for years. One lone screwdriver is nothing in comparison.

  • @yo.adrian
    @yo.adrian 11 місяців тому +8

    I think Linus should have played with the computer before ripping it apart.

  • @JTCF
    @JTCF 11 місяців тому +2

    Error at 1:03
    "2GB Kit" instead of "32GB Kit"

  • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
    @BoraHorzaGobuchul 11 місяців тому

    It'd be great to see you build one just like that but with a more powerful processor, and still keep it budget.
    The main problem I see is fitting so many ssds, you'd need m.2 pci cards for that, and these are pricey.
    Then go crazy on it and build a killer one with ecc, zfs, and a decent board that has management like gigabyte has (l1 mentioned it in one of his videos, it's amd with ecc support and an ipmi analogue, but it's hard to get and rather expensive)

  • @dennisp8520
    @dennisp8520 11 місяців тому +18

    This is a very cool product that I also wish had existed years ago. That being said, I would be willing to pay more to not be CPU limited, I be curious to see ASUS come out with a gen 2 version of this with a markup of about 200-300 for a better CPU

    • @tommeleyn
      @tommeleyn 11 місяців тому +1

      Existed I have one is 7 years old (QNAP TBS-453A). Only it was only 4 M.2 ssd slots, and off course at that time it was m.2 Sata not PCIE

  • @_1_1_2_5_
    @_1_1_2_5_ 11 місяців тому +25

    Let Jake make a printer that cancels when you click cancel and send the info on how to every printer company.

  • @Couchmonsterz
    @Couchmonsterz 11 місяців тому

    Man I love that you made chapters for the video. Was interrupted 3 times by my kids and had clean entry points to rewatch. Neat!

  • @WayonHardee
    @WayonHardee 11 місяців тому

    Cool little machine. I would love one of these or something like it for my house or if I ever start a small business again.

  • @CreateGuy4
    @CreateGuy4 11 місяців тому +4

    wow! 172 to 637 views in 4 seconds!

  • @raidmax215
    @raidmax215 11 місяців тому +4

    Someone should probs tell Linus that unraid has had trim integrated into to the OS since 2022...

  • @cyscott2714
    @cyscott2714 11 місяців тому

    I do have a Raspberry PI SSD NAS with Open Media Vault. The only files on the NAS are just rips of DVDs and Blu-rays; which I keep as my BU. Works for me and I've been happy with it for the past few years.

  • @missyd0g2
    @missyd0g2 11 місяців тому

    I’m an old Guy computer nerd. Started writing Cobol programs on IBM 360. At age ten my son and I built his first PC. By 2001 my son went through our PC parts stuff and built PC’c for his friends. He still builds gaming computers and I receive his old parts.

  • @Cynixic
    @Cynixic 11 місяців тому +3

    love you linus keep up the good work

  • @charginginprogresss
    @charginginprogresss 11 місяців тому +3

    4:48 With an SSD, you get the drive dead with no warning. Data lost. poof.

    • @Noob._gamer
      @Noob._gamer 11 місяців тому

      Leave pc gaming it's the end only cloud gaming is our future not pc or gpus . Consumer market will end. No laptops no hardware No consoles only cloud pc , cloud gaming, and phone's are our future ......

    • @doublinx2
      @doublinx2 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Noob._gamer stop being doomer and pick up a football. There will always be a need for local hardware

  • @JonathanSteadman2003
    @JonathanSteadman2003 11 місяців тому

    Love you guys so much! :)

  • @Vincent-vu5vr
    @Vincent-vu5vr 11 місяців тому +1

    Great, I hesitate two years with building a NAS, order all the parts two days ago, and now you show me this.

  • @FragTix
    @FragTix 11 місяців тому +3

    1:24 it looks kinda like a ps4 pro

    • @F-I-Bagency
      @F-I-Bagency 11 місяців тому

      No you mean ps4 deflalt

  • @GAURAVKRRAFT
    @GAURAVKRRAFT 11 місяців тому +4

    Great video. But I would say getting a laptop. Yes they are heavier but you can get better performance and get work done.

    • @EmulatedMan
      @EmulatedMan 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@Noob._gamer stop spamming people's comments

    • @GAURAVKRRAFT
      @GAURAVKRRAFT 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Noob._gamer well, one of the main factor of cloud gaming is storage and speed and trust me where I live me getting 15mbps Is way too good with average being 500kbps

  • @lukasfischer1465
    @lukasfischer1465 11 місяців тому

    0:03 yea that server is certainly wild... rly hard coincidence that the cooler is brown too....

  • @jonpetersathan
    @jonpetersathan 11 місяців тому

    @Linus: unRAID actually supports TRIM by default at least since version 6.11 and I don't mean by any plugins whatsoever. It supports SSD trim out of the box (Settings/Scheduler/Trim). And with official ZFS support coming in the next few days/weeks, whenever the latest RC hits stable, it is now much much better suitable for pure NVMe SSD arrays.

  • @MordecaiV
    @MordecaiV 11 місяців тому +3

    I feel like Linus is really enjoying being set free.

  • @_etwas
    @_etwas 11 місяців тому +5

    Ah yes, the 2 GB RAM Kit

  • @MadMensDen
    @MadMensDen 11 місяців тому

    Wow. This is actually pretty great. Might consider this soon as I don't wanna deal with hard drives and need a better storage solution..

  • @paintologin
    @paintologin 11 місяців тому

    Saw a review for this on STH a while back, went looking for it in the UK and couldn't find a supplier. This review reminded me and I went a looked again. No one appears to have it in stock...
    Shame as it looks like a cracking bit of kit.

  • @chickenfried12
    @chickenfried12 11 місяців тому +3

    But can it run crysis?

  • @JL-pm1sx
    @JL-pm1sx 11 місяців тому +4

    69.99 for that screw driver is ludicrous 💀

  • @VampireOnline
    @VampireOnline 11 місяців тому

    I laughed way too loud way too many times durning this video! Love when these two make a video together!

  • @watercannonscollaboration2281
    @watercannonscollaboration2281 11 місяців тому

    This thing makes me wish for physical adapters from MXM to m.2 over NvME, because you can then convert a 17in workstation from Dell or HP into some kind of NAS with even more nvme slots

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 11 місяців тому +8

    It’s a great device for the price, although the design reminds me more of a PS4 than a PS2.

    • @crazyjoeshorts5256
      @crazyjoeshorts5256 11 місяців тому +3

      Think he meant overall size, but yeah. Looks like a ps4.

    • @Clavinohou
      @Clavinohou 11 місяців тому +1

      you are on every ltt video comment ever

  • @nissant
    @nissant 11 місяців тому +4

    I think you should start building servers only, you seem curious about it.😉

    • @balecalduin1993
      @balecalduin1993 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Noob._gamer Heard that one for about 10 years

    • @JuliTV123
      @JuliTV123 11 місяців тому

      @@Noob._gamer poor visual quality, increased latency, no absolute control over your computer, requires good internet infrastructure, subscriptions. Hell even those cloud computers still require GPUs to render your game, this is one of the most nonsensical statements i've heard

  • @rikou1986
    @rikou1986 11 місяців тому +1

    It's really nice seeing linus in so many videos already.

  • @unkown34x33
    @unkown34x33 9 місяців тому

    Sending my mini PC or LTT, but is Linus that is managing.
    Me: sand Jake! I don't wanna it to break it... Lol

  • @lucasmarsula7924
    @lucasmarsula7924 11 місяців тому +5

    There seems to be a small error in the graphic at 1:10 - It says "2GB Kit (2x16GB)" instead of "32GB..."

    • @user-wq9mw2xz3j
      @user-wq9mw2xz3j 11 місяців тому

      wow, thankfully you noticed, he should remove the video

    • @lucasmarsula7924
      @lucasmarsula7924 11 місяців тому

      @@user-wq9mw2xz3j What are you talking about? I never said or implied that. And who is "he" anyway? LTT is more than a hundred people.
      There was a time not to long ago where there were a lot of small errors in videos and I just wanted to let them know there was a small one here so they know and can watch out for that to get out of hand again.
      And by the way you don't have to remove a video to correct something in them. This isn't 2010 UA-cam.
      Have a nice day! :)

  • @shaunvarun2838
    @shaunvarun2838 11 місяців тому +61

    First linux

  •  11 місяців тому

    Hey Linus, here's an idea. How about try to match that form factor with these components and see if you can tame the beast with such a case:
    - nMEDIAPC HTPC 1800B Mini ITX Media Center Case (slightly higher than a 5,25 drive bay)
    - ToughArmor MB872MP-B Full Metal 12 Bay M.2 SATA SSD Mobile Rack for External 5.25" Drive Bay (SFF-8612) (Even more expensive as this NAS ;D)
    - AsRock Rack ROMED4ID-2T Proprietary (Deep mini-ITX) Server Motherboard Socket SP3 (about same price as the 12 bay SSD drive bay)
    - An EPYC CPU that can be cooled in such a short case.

  • @salmonsoup15
    @salmonsoup15 11 місяців тому +9

    No you shouldn’t

  • @frogtoesdynamite5741
    @frogtoesdynamite5741 8 місяців тому

    is this a NAS only, or can it also be used an an offline desktop mass storage enclosure?

    • @ASUSTOR_YT
      @ASUSTOR_YT 8 місяців тому

      NAS only. We do have an offline desktop mass storage enclosure. Search for the AS6004U.

  • @costafilh0
    @costafilh0 11 місяців тому +1

    100TB Storage on this is pretty nice! And use a HD array for cheaper slow backups.

    • @SuperSpecies
      @SuperSpecies 10 місяців тому

      100TB, with which ssds?

  • @JellyLancelot
    @JellyLancelot 11 місяців тому +1

    Unraid now officially supports auto trim btw, and they’ve done it properly as it’s at the FS level so it trims on the fly

  • @qlum
    @qlum 11 місяців тому +2

    In terms of security actually using a different port is a pretty good thing to do for the average home / small office users
    Bot's frequently scrape the standard ports around the web to see if there is some exploitable software running on the standard ports.
    By changing the port, you already shake off most broad untargeted attacks on an unsecure system. Of course it's no substitute for security but it most certainly is a good thing to do.

    • @alexatkin
      @alexatkin 11 місяців тому

      But the bots would have to be inside the LAN to get past your firewall, at which point they are likely on an exploited PC which has access to the NAS shares and your data so you're already screwed.

    • @qlum
      @qlum 11 місяців тому

      Unless you port forward and have the interface available outside your lan, which people will inevitably do.

    • @alexatkin
      @alexatkin 11 місяців тому

      @@qlum Which using none standard ports on the box has zero impact on.