I want a Disney+ show called The Invaders. Here’s the pitch: Steve Rogers has finished putting back the Stones and he fixed the timelines. He is currently living with Peggy Carter when she convinces him that he has to save his friend and protect the innocent victims of the war. He goes to the Hydra base where Bucky is being held and saves him from all those years of brainwashing and torture. Steve has an almost perfect memory (as shown in First Avenger) which he uses to recall/predict many important enemy bases and invasions. Steve and Bucky work together to invade enemy lines, take down bases, and to stop Axis attacks before they even happen. In one of the early episodes, the duo goes on a particularly significant mission, they discover a Hydra fire-drone prototype titled 𝙳𝚒𝚎 𝙼𝚎𝚗𝚜𝚌𝚑𝚕𝚒𝚌𝚑𝚎 𝙵𝚊𝚔𝚎𝚕. They take the prototype to Howard Stark and his colleague Prof. Phineas T. Horton, who modify the robot to become the sentient android Human Torch. The Human Torch soon joins the group on all their missions and the trio is given the codename Tʜᴇ Iɴᴠᴀᴅᴇʀs. The opposition eventually takes notice of the team’s activities and they send the special task force Tʜᴇ Sᴜᴘᴇʀ-Axɪs to stop them. As the Invaders continue their adventures, they could team up with characters such as Union Jack, Spitfire, Azzuri’s Black Panther, James Falsworth’s Captain Britain, Wolverine, Jack Fury, Namor, and a myriad of iconic heroes from the early days of Marvel. This show would give a spotlight to many obscure Marvel Characters and expand upon the idea of alternate timelines. I just think this premise could open up so many amazing opportunities.
Nando, I mean this as a compliment. But you keep reminding me of someone from your looks (Not Justin Hammer.... #Hammerdance), I just couldn't place it. Then I just got off watch Terminator 2 yesterday night and then I saw the T-1000 stabbing John's foster dad (and his poor carton of milk...) then it clicked me! You look like that guy Xander Berkeley when he was in his 90s roles. Great character actor.... But anyway, after watching The Terminator series again, do you think you can one day create your idea of a Terminator 3 rewrite just to get fans minds off of Rise of the Machines and Dark Fate), please? Because with all your ideas, why not throw in something more nostalgic like Terminator and see what could have been done to save such a failure of a franchise?
16:46 But what about the pre-existing evil Agatha evidence (killing the Salem coven, killing Sparky, the whole song?) You've kinda unfairly ignored that for your story, as the changes that you propose only start after those elements are already in the story.
I totally agree with what you're saying here. One of the downsides of the marvel formula. Also they let Wanda off pretty easy for basically torturing a bunch of people
I think they have a unique opportunity To sort of blend the characters of Agnes and Agatha Harkness together to create the chaotic nuetral mentor we all want
Why does everyone think she was linear, she was just trying to figure out what was going on. Trynna peep if she really was the scarlet witch. She had no intention of being truly evil. She was just doing what she does, I guess people wanted her to be super creepy.
I think you did a marvelous job of redeeming Wanda’s story and preserving the themes of the show, but I’d really like to see what you could do to salvage Monica’s arc. She was the audience’s POV for so much of this that I think the biggest crime of all was how underserved her character ultimately was.
One small change: have Monica present during the "Previously On" therapy session, coaching Wanda. She should have been more instrumental to Wanda's healing, imo.
wanda should have been the main villain (i mean she helf an entire town, her husband and kids hostage for like a week, that's serious psychological damage), monica should have been the hero and agatha? agatha the villain she created as a way to write herself as the hero. the finale is wanda v monica as she's repeatedly tried to help wanda in a kind way but the lady refused to listen so showdown tiiiime
@@IanJN I don't think that would have worked Monica was still grieving and just trying to push through the job. Although I think them both processing it at the same time would have been nice. That she could have contributed as well on Wanda's acceptance. Though I kind of think the movie doesn't quite well work as is on the notion of acceptance.
In general, I appreciate that Marvel is making a concerted effort to stop killing its villains. One thing about the finale that worked for me was Agatha's fate, because it's a lot more creative than "She dies while fighting the hero". Like Iron Monger, Yellowjacket, Whiplash, Ultron, etc. So that much I wouldn't change.
Agreed. But in the future there needs to be realistic reasons to keep villans alive. Because avengers be killing people 😆 they aren't the justice league. In the comics I think villans just get away right?
@@Kinobambino or they get out of jail. In the comics you get to have the escaped bad guys team up. Since the MCU movies were always working towards having Thanos as the big bad for all the films, they never cared about the individual movies villains assembling their own Legion Of Doom. So they got cannon foddered.
I think Marvel killed off the right villains. Plus most of the time, the deaths were ambiguous enough to bring them return if and when a story called for it... (For e.g. Obadiah and Whiplash could easily return for Armor Wars.)
Translation: "Our big twist was that Wanda was the big bad, but the studio made us pretend someone else was responsible for a former terrorist doing bad things to innocent people."
So infuriating, just let her be bad. Show that grief can make people do selfish things and hurt others. You can still give her a redemption arc later, but commit to her being bad now.
Chthon was the real villain. You don't introduce the Darkhold, Chaos Magic, Blade, and Wundagore Mountain, if you're not going to use Chthon. The showrunner said the Darkhold was trying to stop Wanda from becoming Scarlet Witch. The Hex was probably at least partially made by Chthon, who resides in Wandas subconscious. Chaos Magic is Chthon's magic. Wanda must become the Scarlet Witch to make the chaos magic truly her own. The Mind Stone showed her she must become Scarlet Witch. There is no other path. He literally writes in the Darkhold that Wanda will be "forged" which means smashed until she becomes his vessel. Chthon binded his soul to hers when she was born. This also means she has high immunity to the Darkhold. She must use the Darkhold to study Chaos Magic. There is no one who can teach her.
yea the phrase alone is misleading but the lyrics say before “who’s been messing up everything” and they show what she was messing up. in that context, it makes sense.
The song makes complete sense if you actually listen to the other words though? It's not saying that she was doing literally everything, it's saying that she was the one doing all the weird little fuckups that have been cluing us and VIsion into the weirdness of everything. People really need to stop listening to just the choruses in songs lol
These videos always make me so sad. I go from being "completely oblivious to the flaws as a casual viewer" to "frustrated by the decisions made in the writing" to "despairing for the fixed version that will never be."
The issue with "They'll never know what you sacrificed for them" is that....they would? Monica said that while she was under she could feel Wanda's anger and pain underneath her Geraldine persona, and then later on the townsfolk say that they've experienced Wanda's nightmares as her own. So, they would absolutely know what Wanda gave up to save them, they just wouldn't forgive her.
It's not even that they wouldn't forgive her. It's that Wanda never apologized to them. When I was watching the last episode with my dad she walked through all those people watching her. She walked up to Monica and quietly said "I'm sorry". Instead of turning around and telling everyone in the town that she is sorry for what she did. The townsfolk knew what she went through. They knew the reasons everything happened. They just waited for an apology.
@@HeresorLegacy Wanda felt an apology would have not worked. She also has poor social skills. There's also the fact that Covid prevented them from doing reshoots meaning they could not fix scenes.
@@Relugus You are pretty much right, but not apologizing because you think it wouldn't work defeats the purpose of an apology. Regardless if the apology is accepted or not, you do apologize because you sorry, not because you ask for forgiveness.
I swear, this series could've been perfect if they decided to have one extra episode. There were a lot of reasons why the finale fell flat at the end, even with the awesome moments. Still, this series is basically a 4.5 out of 5 out of me because the whole of the show was better than the sum of its parts.
They initially had plans for 9-10 episodes but due to the pandemic they had to halt production for a few months then when it started back up they had lots of restriction and scheduling issues.
Browntable mentioned that it's been confirmed the original run was 10 episodes and the pandemic forced it down to 9. So frustrating since the finale was completely disappointing but only because of uncontrollable factors.
The part that I feel that is missing the most is the connection between Wanda and Monica that had been established through the first 7 episodes; two women confronting trauma together and finding solace in their pain being understood. The show positions them as two super-powered heavyweights each with parallel emotional struggles, and gives that positioning no resolution. Monica's admission that she would've brought her mom back just doesn't tie up her emotional arc, I feel. I really think these two were meant to grieve together, and then Wanda could've had the chance to say goodbye to Vision and the kids on her own terms. I really don't think Monica is used at all to her full potential or even original purpose in episode 9, and while we get the stinger that she's going to space with Fury, her feelings are still very much unresolved.
They really just used Monica to say, "Don't worry, someone Wanda didn't invent from scratch thinks she's fine, so she's fine. It's fine. It's... fine. The end."
Honest Trailers pointed this out, but it very much so falls in the black best friend trope. Monica is there to prop up Wanda's story, care about Wanda's problem, and then get very little pay off herself. Or I guess the payoff is going to Captain Marvel 2.... so she can be Carol's black best friend.
I find it weird how once we get to the finale they have nothing for her to do, from such an interesting start to basically doing nothing at the end. I mean we still don’t know why she mentioned Ultron or still had the sword necklace in episode 3
I agree wholeheartedly. I was really frustrated Monica wasn't used in the best way. It would have been so much more satisfying if she played as more of a mentor to Wanda. It would have led to lots of character development to the both of them. And Monica could have helped her with grieving over the hex & her family being gone. Or possibly aiding her with her powers and being a moral support. Rather than that half assed goodbye she gave on the finale. I was at the very least incredibly disappointed with the wasted potional Monica got. They hyped up her relationship with Wanda way to much. When in reality it just turned into a very transparent useless not very deep rooted relationship. 😒
Her nightmares showed her past, it didn’t show the family she created and that she had to let that family go to free everyone else. That’s what Monica meant
I also have some issues with how abrupt the finale felt in some parts, but I still have the feeling that Multiverse of Madness will recontextualize and improve this series like what Wandavision itself did with Age of Ultron
Isn't the "It wouldn't change how they see me" line a call back to Wanda and Vision's conversation about people being afraid of her in Civil War? He says he wants people to see her the way he does... This is sort of her acknowledgement that it isn't possible.
I like how in the episode 8 flashback, Agatha has been shown to be selfish and mean, so we expect her to be that, but in your version she had 300 years to change and has grown. But she still knows how you see the world when you only look at it selfishly.
That quote makes me cry. I was blown away that its from an actual comic book. Man you have to work for Marvel/DC/Hollywood because watching these sometimes makes it so hard to go back to the canon universe.
I admit the finale was lackluster, but I don't think turning Wanda into cheetah from ww84 is the answer. She should have just been the villain of her own story with Monica, Agatha and even Vision ganging up on her. The only thing stopping her is a self sacrifice moment from Vision or some ish while he's protecting the people caught in the crossfire.
The "that wouldn't change how they see me" line makes it seem like Wanda is more pissed at the fact that the towns people for being mad at her instead of her feeling guilty for what she did. The suggested line change is a lot better!
In some ways it felt like she had given up on being a hero in that moment. Her whole arc in Civil War was about not being defined by other people's fear so I get where they were going and I still think we have major parts of Wanda's redemption that we still have to get through.
I don't think one line is enough to convey the magnitude of the harm here-I am the only one who remembers the townspeople literally begging to *DIE* instead of going back? As Nando points out, Wanda KNEW that this was happening, Vision told her like 3 to 4 episodes ago - but its still played off as if she cares at the end...
@@darkestlight660 I don't think one line is enough but it would make it more clear to the audience that the show writers know what Wanda did was wrong. I personally think Wanda should either have a small villain arc or go through some serious redemption arc stuff. Either way she needs to have real consequences for what she did. Sp I feel like the line switch works, Wanda should feel guilty instead of somewhat angry at them
Showing that Wanda knew what she did was wrong is one thing - but the writers seem to brush over the consequences of the actions - honestly - despite how bad SWORD was in lots of instances, I find myself AGREEING with them on a lot of stuff regarding Wanda.... they did give her a chance to surrender, and she is torturing an entire town to the point of suicide.... That one line - no one line- is enough to actually show the depths of what psychological horror that is- as someone who has both been suicidal and had loved ones who are suicidal - it feels like the writers tossed in the line that they people wanted to die without any thought about how to show the consequences of that - I feel loved WandaVision, but that handling of the end stuff makes me incredibly angry.
I agree that the finale could have been better executed but I do think a lot of these suggestions take away from the complexity of Wanda's character and the relatability that comes with seeing her difficulty to make the right decision in that final episode, the stages of grief she goes through during the season and coming to terms with how the emotions she doesn't face, hurts those around her. I do love the line you suggested from the Merchant of Venice though, but think it would be lovely as Vision and Wanda's final words to each other, right before Vis disappears along with the hex.
Loved this. Huge fan of the idea that Wanda was the villain considering this was blatantly her fault. Agatha is a great character but I really feel the story lost something when she became a villain and took some of the onus off of Wanda (even though nothing I can think of that Agatha actually did lessened what Wanda did)
Agatha was bad cause she was bad and her motivation is power. As soon as she dropped the nosy neighbor thing was literally just dropping exposition and dropping evil villian laughs constantly. It's like they used evil villian 101 to write her character
I feel like making Wanda not fully responsible, and making this "evil" Wanda makes the conflict significantly less interesting, it's like the Hydra reveal in Winter Soldier, it makes the answer to the moral conundrum easy.
But evil Wanda is, in her mystical lore, the Chthon part of Wanda. In one of the comics that has influenced WandaVision, "Darkhold: Pages from the Book of Sin", Agatha tells Wanda that Chthon attached his soul fragment to the dark side of her soul. The darker Wanda's emotions, the greater his influence over her. Chthon represents the darkness that always lurks in the human soul, the part seeking to become the whole.
Based on your more wild WandaVision hunches from before, I was kind of worried about your WV rewrite, but this is actually perfect. Absolutely prefer this to the way it really went down. Reminds me why I follow your videos. Keep making great content!
Terrific rewrite. The best one since I started watching your channel two years ago. And it makes the character arc and the story so much better! Kudos to you!
I think theres still a big missed opportunity. The finale would have been better if instead of a boring, seen-before magic fight, they fought by manipulating the sitcom, changing genres, swapping sets. The potential is massive and it could end up being the best thing in phase 4.
When are you doing a "Wanda Isn't Wanda" video analyzing how Wanda was actually based on Garfield in that comic where it turns out Jon and Odie are figments of his imagination
Superhero movies love having heroes feel regret about hurting people, but I can't remember the last time the hero actually apologized directly to anyone they hurt.
The "they'll never know what you sacrificed for them" line bugs me because she didn't really sacrifice anything for them. That'd be like if I stole your car but then later returned it and said you're welcome.
More like you took my car without realizing it because it had the soul of a loved one in it but then realized you stole it so you returned it even tho it means never seeing that loved one again. Thanks for your sacrifice
The kids were real. They are basically the first living beings ever created by magic. Even the inventor of chaos magic, Chthon, could only create vampires and demons, which are undead. Grandpa Chthon has the kids, most likely.
I loved all of Wanda and visions scenes. Hated all of the sword agent stuff alot. Really didn't like Monicas arch or story and she had as much personality as the car she smashed into the wall. So I'm 50/50 on the show
Now I have to remember at the start of every Marvel movie how Nando made the finale of WandaVision better and how the way I want to remember it will never be what happened.
Honestly I see Hayward as a antagonist, he lied about Wanda stealing Vision's body (using it to create White Vision) and out right said he intends to eliminate her even if she took the hex down.
Can you do a rewrite for Raya and the Last Dragon? The whole trust theme needs to be better explored, especially when Namaari is treated like she's completely innocent while Raya is treated like a bad guy for not trusting her.
One thing that bugged me about the finale I had the shot of the kids being choked spoiled by Twitter and ever since then I’ve wondered why didn’t they just step backwards, I know they don’t want to be with Agnes but you’ll still be alive rather than dying trying to escape
I agree with you but I wonder why people don’t like the ‘Marvel’ side of marvel films and tv shows. It’s like liking ice cream but complaining how it’s always cold
@@kosiqueensly4506 I guess it comes down to what wanda said about Malcom in the Middle: "it's not that kind of show" WandaVision, based on my interpretation, was an insightful character study and an examination of grief. Beam fights worked in Avengers Endgame because that the kind of movie it was.
@@kosiqueensly4506 people constantly praise the MCU setup for being able to explore all sorts of genres. While they remain consistently entertaining, to take full advantage of their use of genres, having some shows where it doesn't end with cg lasers could've been great. Especially in a show about depression, grief and enslaving a town. I think this is why I find the ending of Dr. Strange so satisfying. The movie and characters establish there are some things one shouldn't do, but Dr. Strange still does them, breaking the natural order to stop the bad guy by annoying him for what feels like an eternity...not overpowering him with a superhero smackup.
Nando, before I watch this, I just have one small change idea for Wandavision. The SWORD director guy in Wandavision should be replaced by Thaddeus Ross. Hes established in the MCU, he has the motive, and it can lead into She-Hulk. Also, Vision fighting Red Hulk would be awesome.
It'd make sense too considering Ross is already established to be a Metahuman hater and wants to control them because he's so patriotic and egoistic, he's the grey side of military. Hayward did everything right but he's treated like some sort of bad guy and every person keeps saying "you're going to jail" Ok but why? He has the authority to take out wanda, she's a threat. And the public won't care cause she has even been registered as a hydra terrorist before.
Two possible issues with this: First, Ross is supposed to appear in Black Widow, which was how he is probably going to go into she-hulk. Secondly, part of the fact that SWORD was appearing was because Monica's story and the skrulls needed to be expanded upon in prep for secret invasion, Captain Marvel 2
@@lordgiacomos2551 I mean yeah, it isnt perfect, but he can still appear in both She-Hulk and Black Widow, since those stories take place in times seperate to Wandavision. Also, Hayworth or Hayword or whatever didng have any connections to the Skrulls. Replacing him with Ross doesnt affect that story in any way. He might even be a better villain for Monica, since she kinda did nothing except set up Captain Marvel 2, and he could give her something to do in the finale.
@@willtheboredguy3556 The reason I associate replacing Hayward and setting up Monica's future is because without including SWORD, her plotline doesn't really get explored, and I don't think that Ross should be put in charge of SWORD from a narrative perspective, because it wouldn't really make sense for him to be in charge of some agency that he hadn't been involved in or even named by any characters up until that point in the timeline. (Spider-man: Far from Home takes place after the MCU Disney+ shows that have been released so far)
@@lordgiacomos2551 your point about Far From Home doesnt make sense because he wasnt in that movie. That is completely unrelated. Your entire argument boils down to "SWORD is new to the MCU, so Ross cant be invloved in it" which makes no sense because SWORD seems to be an government organization. Ross is a high ranking member of the military, a part of the government. SWORD lost it's leader for 5 years, and we dont know what Ross was doing during those 5 years. SWORD and Ross are not two completely seperate entites. One is a organization focused on Meta-Humans, and the other is a guy who hates Meta-Humans. One last thing, your issue isn't one based on narrative like you claim. It is actually more based on worldbuilding and internal logic of the story. I mean, you could have brought up issues relating to Ross not being relevant to this Wanda story, which would be a narrative related gripe, but the SWORD stuff and the Wanda Sitcom stuff are very disconnected and Hayward isnt related to Wanda either. In fact, Ross knows Wanda through the Avengers. She caused the Sakovia Accounts with her fumbling of the bomb, and the Accords are the only reason Ross is in Civil War.
I kind of liked Agatha being on the line of villain. Her motives weren’t fleshed out like the whole Salem origin and why she wanted wandas power of spontaneous creation. That’s the one thing I’m missing in the rewrite, where does Agatha origin work in it...
I am glad that you made this video. The fact that you could make Agatha Harkness resembles her elderly comic counterpart and give Wanda a proper Jekyll and Hyde arc for the end of the series is great! I wish they had done exactly what you do here.
Agatha's "mentoring" was just her hubris speaking, she didn't see Wanda as a serious threat. Agatha used Wanda's kids in order to provoke her and make her use her powers to attack her so she can absorb them like she did with her old coven. It makes perfectly sense.
She should've turned herself in to SHIELD or something, she proved Hayward was right about powered individuals and now he's going to have a field day pushing to arrest anyone with powers for being dangerous and unaccountable.
I have been thinking about this too, and i would solve the finale a different way: the emotional pain that Wanda goes through causes her powers to go out of control, and she creates what it is basically a magical black hole. The world she creates around it is not only to be emotional therapy, but to protect the outer world from the destruction. Then when Agatha takes Wanda's powers, it turns out the Wanda we've been following is also not real, and the real one is in a coma like state in the centre. This ties to the prophesy that she will end the world, but Agatha realizes Wanda needs her help. If you want Agatha stuck as the noisy neighbour, you could have Wanda and her trade places at the end. I'm sure Darcy would know about the energies of a black hole too, so she could perhaps discover it. Then you could have an exchange between Monica and Agatha, where Monica makes the point of the sacrifice Wanda made, trying to see her heroic side, whilst Agatha can make the point that she could've protected everyone without the sitcom, so it's more nuanced about what she did. In the series Wanda gets away with too much imo
But if we lessen her culpability in this use of this unforgivable curse (imperious) then it makes it harder for her to evolve into the big bad for this phase of the MCU.
My one small chsnge would be to Hayward. They set up a whole CADMUS thing of being scared of supers and wanting his own weapons perfectly and totally waste it!!!! They even hsve a set up where they could use Vision killing Wanda as a test to prove his creations successfulness but hope, dont even try to give him a motivation when it so easy!!!!! It would also add a lot more relatablity and if not sympathy at least understanding to his motivation. Its a classic villain motivation and would fit perfectly with this story!!!
@@emiliohernandez7214 i guess thats nice, but id honestly almost rather havr a different character take up a CADMUS role if thats their plan since they did him so poorly here. They have a major uphill battle with him if they want to use him again.
I don't like the Double-Wanda storyline. You can turn the thing how you want, it diminishes the choice and depth of her character. She needs to be responsible, yet we have to understand her. Here we get neither, because Wanda wasn't really herself for most of the series.
I think there’s a certain level of recognition in the rewrite that marvel and disney do not want wanda to end this series as full villain. this version allows the show to have a meaningful conversation about grief and a level of responsibility still attributed to wanda without completely blowing whatever marvel clearly has planned for her in the future. in a perfect world, yes, we could avoid the split wanda and just let her be the morally ambiguous character we know she is, but based on the ending we got and how much it downplayed the pain wanda caused, i think it’s fair to say that’s not what disney wanted for the character at this point in her arc. the split wanda gives them an out that is still fairly satisfying to viewers.
My change would be to actually have Agnes, the character Agatha's playing in Wanda's show, actually play a more antagonistic role in all the plot lines of those earlier episodes. Only to flip it by the end to mesh with your change being that Agatha was only trying to understand what Wanda is and find a way to fix all this. That would've been a more interesting twist than the run of the mill villain thing. Because as it stands, she doesn't really do enough to warrant the whole "It was Agatha all along" thing. Sure, _some_ of the things she does starts shattering the illusion of Wanda's world, but the SWORD team is equally responsible for all that. Her presence doesn't make that big a difference in the end because of it. So if Agatha has a more active role in the earlier episodes and SWORD just has a minor presence, then the whole story centering around her in the end makes more sense.
I still love the show as a whole and still liked the finale, but I do believe the planned version of the finale (the one where Monica and the twins have bigger roles, Nicolas Scratch, etc) would've been as close as to what Nando described here. And it would've been a better way to end the show and bring us towards Multiverse of Madness. But eh, we're already in the second show so I give it until March 2022 for the TraumaVision effect to wear off
I am disappointed with some parts of the finale, but I ain't gonna go crazy over it (especially the Bohner stuff, the MCU already pulled that trick like three times before, its something you get used to and say "meh")
This is so much better and actually delivers on all the themes the show set up. And the character interaction, I sorely missed that in the finale. 10/10 :D
Idk for as choppy as the last episode was, I didn’t mind Agatha’s mind wipe. I kind of hope when we see her again she is fully aware of the fact that she is trapped being a chipper townswoman, but full on admits she hates her life and wants to be an evil witch again.
I see where you're coming from with this, but I don't think it's better. It removes the theme of acceptance of grief from the whole of the episode and just keeps it at the end, and I think that makes her finally moving on at last much less believable. I found the part where she opened the hex to let the people out which opened her world up to danger to be the most beautiful part of the whole thing.
See, I'm on the opposite side of the "It wouldn't change what I did" vs "It wouldn't change how they feel about me". Because frankly, Wanda's guilt over her own actions *shouldn't* matter as much as her guilt over how those actions made people feel. Feeling guilty because you did something focuses on you and your feelings. Feeling guilty because something you did hurt someone centers the person you hurt and prioritizes them. Her victims and their feelings are more important than hers. And she's acknowledging that even if they knew what she'd sacrificed it wouldn't be enough for them and that's valid. Because it's not about whether Wanda forgives herself, or even whether we forgive her. The only people that can forgive her are the residents of Westview, they're not inclined to do so, and she knows that and validates it.
Not really, what Wanda said was the equivalent to "I'm sorry you feel that way". It doesn't sound look she feels her actions were truly terrible and that she's going to make up for them. It sounds like she simply pities the townspeople and hopes they'll eventually forget about the incident and forgive her. Maybe I watched a different show than you.
@@jlev1028 You must have, since it's in the context of someone giving her an out she refused to take. If she was "sorry they felt that way" she would have just agreed with Monica.
If we were talking about- say- horribly insulting or mentally harassing an individual - I'd be inclined to agree - however the actual crime here? Torturing people to the point of suicidal thoughts? An entire TOWN of people - yes you are right about the fact that she does validate the town's people's belief - but she appears to feel borderline NO remorse for her own actions. Yes, she is caught up in her emotions for visions and her boys, but she fails to recognize that those things came at the express cost of hurting others until the very end. After Vision had already warned her episodes prior. Simply validating their feelings is not enough here- if we are to take Wanda as someone who truly did at least a modicum of the right thing - that would entail ACKNOWLEDGING the harm she did to them - yet - she barely does.... The fact that Monica even SAYS THE LINE is telling - because Monica thinks that someone being abused is an excuse to allow them to abuse others. My mother and my father were both abused as children, and as a child I was abused for the beginning of my childhood, though through various counseling and some realizations on my parents part, they stopped, and they told me what had happened - but they never - and I never- thought that their abuse was a justification for mine. That kind of rhetoric is dangerous and false - yes - people who are abused and manipulated should absolutely receive help, and should not be blamed for receiving the abuse - but unless they are literally incapable of functioning justly - it does not excuse how they hurt others- and Wanda hurt A LOT of otherrs.
I dunno what show you were watching, but it was pretty clear to me that Agnes was a full on villain, not someone genuinely wanting to help Wanda. Pretty great changes, though I don't understand how Agnes was so confusing for you, personally.
I think the problem is that many viewers think that Agatha either needed to be her friend or to be manipulating/fighting her from the beginning. But what happened is that Agatha was a villain. She just didn't know the full story from the beginning. Agatha found out about a powerful source of magic, started investigating and then after understanding what was going on, then, only for the latter parts of WandaVision, she started manipulating things to try and set Wanda up so she could absorb the magic for herself. The song also indicates that she was AGATHA all along, not Agnes. It doesn't necessarily mean that she was the reason for EVERYTHING, just that she'd been manipulating things for a while. I think an even simpler fix for the show would be to reveal that Agatha is the one who led Wanda to find Vision's body and to push her to release her emotions so that Agatha could study her. Then it would have still been Wanda's fault, but Agatha WOULD have been behind it all along.
I like your re-write, but one change I'd make, is that Wanda becomes the Scarlet Witch by re-absorbing Vision and the hex. It would have worked so much better that way, because earlier we saw the Nexus advertisement, "a unique antidepressant to anchor you back to your reality. Or the reality of your choice". In the show Wanda becomes the Scarlet Witch by accepting her fate, but because of that advertisement, and because her whole thing is reality manipulation, it would have been more impactful if she became the Scarlet Witch by anchoring herself back to reality.That way the hex would have been a subconscious wake up call for her to realise who she really is.
It really did get on my nerves that Wanda herself didn't take responsibility for what she did. What she did was wrong and the way things played out, it seems they wanted to sweep the issue under the rug.
I might be reading too much into this, but Agatha is centuries old. It makes no sense in-world for her to suddenly become as one-dimensional as she was in the end, let alone for the writing to suddenly nosedive in quality. My guess is that she never stopped filling a role in Wanda's story. She'll play whatever role she needs to to get close to Wanda, whether that's nosy neighbor, background mastermind, or stereotypical supervillain.
Am I the only person that thinks that Vision flew to Wakanda because that's where he died and was last with Wanda. I think he flew to Wakanda to find Wanda. When he gets there, he could look for her, not find her, run out of power and collapse with some Wakandan soldiers (maybe the Dora Milaje) running up on him as he passes out. When he awakes, he's on a table in Shuri's lab.He asks where Wanda is, she recaps what happened while he was unconscious, and learns that nobody can find Wanda now. Now Vision is devasted because because he realizes he was so close to Wanda before he up and ran off. He'll question his programming because he should have been able to surmise that Wanda wasn't still in Wakanda, he reacted emotionally, not logically, in the moment. This would have played in perfectly with your version.
My biggest disappointment was that they didnt use magneto when he fit the story perfectly. Because who better to understand wanda about grief and loss.. i wouldve loved if magneto took her and they create the brotherhood like in x3 jean grey joins the brotherhood ... i also wand Michael Fassbander back real bad
My small change would be to put the last 3 episodes together and watch them like a movie. I'm going to rewatch it with my kids soon and we're planning to do that.
I really enjoyed this rewrite, it’s definitely much more consistent with the rest of the show. However I can’t help but feel Wandavision isn’t the kind of story that needs a villain. I’d prefer if Wanda was the bad guy and dealt with her grief on her own. That way it becomes more poignant when she decides to take down the hex and move on from living a fantasy, all the while grappling with the consequences of her actions. Nonetheless, as always, you delivered something spectacular, Nando.
Not all your videos resonate with me, but maaan. This one is a top 1. I was so disappointed in the finale when the initial focus of wanda being in depression and responsible for what happened in westview has moved towards agatha being evil all along. They kinda made wanda responsible, but in a such disney manner that i (and many others i believe) felt almost nothing. Your rewrite made me feel better.
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I want a Disney+ show called The Invaders. Here’s the pitch: Steve Rogers has finished putting back the Stones and he fixed the timelines. He is currently living with Peggy Carter when she convinces him that he has to save his friend and protect the innocent victims of the war. He goes to the Hydra base where Bucky is being held and saves him from all those years of brainwashing and torture. Steve has an almost perfect memory (as shown in First Avenger) which he uses to recall/predict many important enemy bases and invasions. Steve and Bucky work together to invade enemy lines, take down bases, and to stop Axis attacks before they even happen. In one of the early episodes, the duo goes on a particularly significant mission, they discover a Hydra fire-drone prototype titled 𝙳𝚒𝚎 𝙼𝚎𝚗𝚜𝚌𝚑𝚕𝚒𝚌𝚑𝚎 𝙵𝚊𝚔𝚎𝚕. They take the prototype to Howard Stark and his colleague Prof. Phineas T. Horton, who modify the robot to become the sentient android Human Torch. The Human Torch soon joins the group on all their missions and the trio is given the codename Tʜᴇ Iɴᴠᴀᴅᴇʀs. The opposition eventually takes notice of the team’s activities and they send the special task force Tʜᴇ Sᴜᴘᴇʀ-Axɪs to stop them. As the Invaders continue their adventures, they could team up with characters such as Union Jack, Spitfire, Azzuri’s Black Panther, James Falsworth’s Captain Britain, Wolverine, Jack Fury, Namor, and a myriad of iconic heroes from the early days of Marvel. This show would give a spotlight to many obscure Marvel Characters and expand upon the idea of alternate timelines. I just think this premise could open up so many amazing opportunities.
Nando, I mean this as a compliment. But you keep reminding me of someone from your looks (Not Justin Hammer.... #Hammerdance), I just couldn't place it. Then I just got off watch Terminator 2 yesterday night and then I saw the T-1000 stabbing John's foster dad (and his poor carton of milk...) then it clicked me! You look like that guy Xander Berkeley when he was in his 90s roles. Great character actor....
But anyway, after watching The Terminator series again, do you think you can one day create your idea of a Terminator 3 rewrite just to get fans minds off of Rise of the Machines and Dark Fate), please? Because with all your ideas, why not throw in something more nostalgic like Terminator and see what could have been done to save such a failure of a franchise?
Have you watched implicitly pretentious’s videos about wandavision?
16:46 But what about the pre-existing evil Agatha evidence (killing the Salem coven, killing Sparky, the whole song?) You've kinda unfairly ignored that for your story, as the changes that you propose only start after those elements are already in the story.
You left out "wHeRe ArE mY ChiLdReN?"
Yes thank you! Agatha should’ve absolutely been more chaotic-neutral, rather than the typical 3rd act bad guy they ended up writing her as.
Also, she killed Sparky. Who can get over that?
(edit: Though Sparky wasn't even real so would it matter?)
I totally agree with what you're saying here. One of the downsides of the marvel formula. Also they let Wanda off pretty easy for basically torturing a bunch of people
She's also never been a villain in the comics either. Chaotic neutral would be a much better take.
I think they have a unique opportunity To sort of blend the characters of Agnes and Agatha Harkness together to create the chaotic nuetral mentor we all want
Why does everyone think she was linear, she was just trying to figure out what was going on. Trynna peep if she really was the scarlet witch. She had no intention of being truly evil. She was just doing what she does, I guess people wanted her to be super creepy.
I think you did a marvelous job of redeeming Wanda’s story and preserving the themes of the show, but I’d really like to see what you could do to salvage Monica’s arc. She was the audience’s POV for so much of this that I think the biggest crime of all was how underserved her character ultimately was.
One small change: have Monica present during the "Previously On" therapy session, coaching Wanda. She should have been more instrumental to Wanda's healing, imo.
wanda should have been the main villain (i mean she helf an entire town, her husband and kids hostage for like a week, that's serious psychological damage), monica should have been the hero and agatha? agatha the villain she created as a way to write herself as the hero. the finale is wanda v monica as she's repeatedly tried to help wanda in a kind way but the lady refused to listen so showdown tiiiime
I feel like they didn't know what to do with Monica. Like how does she slip under Wanda's spell while in the hex?
@@empressjuly Wanda would BODY Monica in half a second
@@IanJN I don't think that would have worked Monica was still grieving and just trying to push through the job. Although I think them both processing it at the same time would have been nice. That she could have contributed as well on Wanda's acceptance. Though I kind of think the movie doesn't quite well work as is on the notion of acceptance.
In general, I appreciate that Marvel is making a concerted effort to stop killing its villains. One thing about the finale that worked for me was Agatha's fate, because it's a lot more creative than "She dies while fighting the hero". Like Iron Monger, Yellowjacket, Whiplash, Ultron, etc. So that much I wouldn't change.
Very true
Agreed. But in the future there needs to be realistic reasons to keep villans alive. Because avengers be killing people 😆 they aren't the justice league. In the comics I think villans just get away right?
@@Kinobambino or they get out of jail. In the comics you get to have the escaped bad guys team up.
Since the MCU movies were always working towards having Thanos as the big bad for all the films, they never cared about the individual movies villains assembling their own Legion Of Doom. So they got cannon foddered.
I think Marvel killed off the right villains. Plus most of the time, the deaths were ambiguous enough to bring them return if and when a story called for it... (For e.g. Obadiah and Whiplash could easily return for Armor Wars.)
Marvel kills TOO much of their villains that’s what kinda annoys me
Translation: "Our big twist was that Wanda was the big bad, but the studio made us pretend someone else was responsible for a former terrorist doing bad things to innocent people."
oof
Yeah I think it would’ve been better if Wanda was the real villain of the show
So infuriating, just let her be bad. Show that grief can make people do selfish things and hurt others. You can still give her a redemption arc later, but commit to her being bad now.
@@chiefgarvey11 exactly, it's a total cop out
Chthon was the real villain. You don't introduce the Darkhold, Chaos Magic, Blade, and Wundagore Mountain, if you're not going to use Chthon. The showrunner said the Darkhold was trying to stop Wanda from becoming Scarlet Witch.
The Hex was probably at least partially made by Chthon, who resides in Wandas subconscious. Chaos Magic is Chthon's magic. Wanda must become the Scarlet Witch to make the chaos magic truly her own. The Mind Stone showed her she must become Scarlet Witch. There is no other path.
He literally writes in the Darkhold that Wanda will be "forged" which means smashed until she becomes his vessel. Chthon binded his soul to hers when she was born. This also means she has high immunity to the Darkhold. She must use the Darkhold to study Chaos Magic. There is no one who can teach her.
I agree, if Wanda would've said "It doesn't change what I've done." I would 100% on her side and totally understanding
Can we talk about the fact that it was not Agatha all along. Wanda did everything herself, Agatha was just there.
yep Honest Trailers pointed it out
@@hamzaliaqat1731 gonna have to check that out now
I’m willing to ignore that because the songs a bop
yea the phrase alone is misleading but the lyrics say before “who’s been messing up everything” and they show what she was messing up. in that context, it makes sense.
The song makes complete sense if you actually listen to the other words though? It's not saying that she was doing literally everything, it's saying that she was the one doing all the weird little fuckups that have been cluing us and VIsion into the weirdness of everything. People really need to stop listening to just the choruses in songs lol
When I watched with my dad, he dubbed White Vision as Re:Vision, and honestly I kind of love it and hope it catches on.
Your Dad is the OG
That is an AWESOME title.
Short for Re"writing Wanda"Vision
@@jamesmeow3039 “Double Vision”
Been calling him ReVision since he first showed up. So glad to see I wasn't the only one.
These videos always make me so sad. I go from being "completely oblivious to the flaws as a casual viewer" to "frustrated by the decisions made in the writing" to "despairing for the fixed version that will never be."
Every time
The issue with "They'll never know what you sacrificed for them" is that....they would? Monica said that while she was under she could feel Wanda's anger and pain underneath her Geraldine persona, and then later on the townsfolk say that they've experienced Wanda's nightmares as her own.
So, they would absolutely know what Wanda gave up to save them, they just wouldn't forgive her.
It's not even that they wouldn't forgive her. It's that Wanda never apologized to them. When I was watching the last episode with my dad she walked through all those people watching her. She walked up to Monica and quietly said "I'm sorry". Instead of turning around and telling everyone in the town that she is sorry for what she did.
The townsfolk knew what she went through. They knew the reasons everything happened. They just waited for an apology.
Um - the problem there - "gave up to save them" is kinda forgetting the point that Wanda was the one who tortured them in the first place..
@@darkestlight660 yeah
@@HeresorLegacy Wanda felt an apology would have not worked. She also has poor social skills.
There's also the fact that Covid prevented them from doing reshoots meaning they could not fix scenes.
@@Relugus You are pretty much right, but not apologizing because you think it wouldn't work defeats the purpose of an apology. Regardless if the apology is accepted or not, you do apologize because you sorry, not because you ask for forgiveness.
I swear, this series could've been perfect if they decided to have one extra episode. There were a lot of reasons why the finale fell flat at the end, even with the awesome moments. Still, this series is basically a 4.5 out of 5 out of me because the whole of the show was better than the sum of its parts.
Yeah if only pandemic didn't happen.
They initially had plans for 9-10 episodes but due to the pandemic they had to halt production for a few months then when it started back up they had lots of restriction and scheduling issues.
Browntable mentioned that it's been confirmed the original run was 10 episodes and the pandemic forced it down to 9. So frustrating since the finale was completely disappointing but only because of uncontrollable factors.
@@pance_9912 Well it's not completely disappointing, but it could be better
@@inigoadinatha7897 That's honestly why I feel that way. Was it horrible? Nope. But it's almost more disappointing because it's just soooooo "meh".
I wish Agata was less of a villainous antagonist and more an anti-hero
* Darcy still sitting at the stop sign *
Darcy : “...I better be getting a spin off after all this...”
She better
@@breawycker She ain’t
@@redgiant7747 a girl can dream
@@breawycker Dreams are just hallucinations to keep you unconscious.
She's in the next thor though so.....
The part that I feel that is missing the most is the connection between Wanda and Monica that had been established through the first 7 episodes; two women confronting trauma together and finding solace in their pain being understood.
The show positions them as two super-powered heavyweights each with parallel emotional struggles, and gives that positioning no resolution. Monica's admission that she would've brought her mom back just doesn't tie up her emotional arc, I feel. I really think these two were meant to grieve together, and then Wanda could've had the chance to say goodbye to Vision and the kids on her own terms.
I really don't think Monica is used at all to her full potential or even original purpose in episode 9, and while we get the stinger that she's going to space with Fury, her feelings are still very much unresolved.
They really just used Monica to say, "Don't worry, someone Wanda didn't invent from scratch thinks she's fine, so she's fine. It's fine. It's... fine. The end."
Honest Trailers pointed this out, but it very much so falls in the black best friend trope. Monica is there to prop up Wanda's story, care about Wanda's problem, and then get very little pay off herself. Or I guess the payoff is going to Captain Marvel 2.... so she can be Carol's black best friend.
I find it weird how once we get to the finale they have nothing for her to do, from such an interesting start to basically doing nothing at the end. I mean we still don’t know why she mentioned Ultron or still had the sword necklace in episode 3
I agree wholeheartedly. I was really frustrated Monica wasn't used in the best way. It would have been so much more satisfying if she played as more of a mentor to Wanda. It would have led to lots of character development to the both of them. And Monica could have helped her with grieving over the hex & her family being gone. Or possibly aiding her with her powers and being a moral support. Rather than that half assed goodbye she gave on the finale. I was at the very least incredibly disappointed with the wasted potional Monica got. They hyped up her relationship with Wanda way to much. When in reality it just turned into a very transparent useless not very deep rooted relationship. 😒
I wonder if the writers thought we’d notice..... 😠
"Someone asks, what happened to Darcy?
And she's just still waiting in that stoplight"
You're diabolical mr. Nando
That would have been the perfect comedic stinger.
I'll do you one better. Why is Darcy?
You mean diabolical?
"They will never know what you sacrificed"
They shared her nightmares so they kinda do.
Her nightmares showed her past, it didn’t show the family she created and that she had to let that family go to free everyone else. That’s what Monica meant
“What happened to White Vision?”
“Oh, him? He went on a /VISION QUEST/“
"all magic comes with a price." I always think back to Once Upon a Time and Rumpelstiltskin.
We all do dearie
You're not the only one
“The bill always come due”
-Baron Mordo
👍
Congrats, you guys broke youtube
Your rewrite perfectly allows for Disney to have it's cake and eat it too. Although I still wish Disney had the guts to condemn Wanda for her actions.
I also have some issues with how abrupt the finale felt in some parts, but I still have the feeling that Multiverse of Madness will recontextualize and improve this series like what Wandavision itself did with Age of Ultron
My thoughts exactly.I feel like the doctor strange sequel might recontextualize and improve the show similar to age of Ultron.
Well, with Wanda fully explaining what chaos magic is to Strange, and Chthon himself very likely showing up, it likely will.
“It wouldn’t change how they feel” == “I’m sorry you feel that way”
Isn't the "It wouldn't change how they see me" line a call back to Wanda and Vision's conversation about people being afraid of her in Civil War? He says he wants people to see her the way he does... This is sort of her acknowledgement that it isn't possible.
I like how in the episode 8 flashback, Agatha has been shown to be selfish and mean, so we expect her to be that, but in your version she had 300 years to change and has grown. But she still knows how you see the world when you only look at it selfishly.
I wonder how many children in Westview Wanda scarred for life so that they become supervillains...
Please get this man in every single writer’s room in Hollywood. This ending feels more complete and interesting.
That quote makes me cry. I was blown away that its from an actual comic book. Man you have to work for Marvel/DC/Hollywood because watching these sometimes makes it so hard to go back to the canon universe.
It's so true. Hollywood needs to recognize your talent.
I think that the reason Agatha choked and then released the kids is because she was egging Wanda on, trying to get her power.
Hey Nando big fan of your rewrites man. Could I make a request for a future rewrite? Wonder Woman 1984
And the 2015 fantastic four movie
Pretty sure he was doing a full rewrite of it. Thought I saw that on twitter
@@UltimateLegoFan324 well I never trust Twitter and is it on both?
@@srstriker6420 On nandos twitter
Wonder woman is doing it.
I admit the finale was lackluster, but I don't think turning Wanda into cheetah from ww84 is the answer. She should have just been the villain of her own story with Monica, Agatha and even Vision ganging up on her. The only thing stopping her is a self sacrifice moment from Vision or some ish while he's protecting the people caught in the crossfire.
White Vision being a mentor for Young Avengers is a cool idea. Kind of like Red Tornado on Young Justice
The "that wouldn't change how they see me" line makes it seem like Wanda is more pissed at the fact that the towns people for being mad at her instead of her feeling guilty for what she did. The suggested line change is a lot better!
In some ways it felt like she had given up on being a hero in that moment. Her whole arc in Civil War was about not being defined by other people's fear so I get where they were going and I still think we have major parts of Wanda's redemption that we still have to get through.
I don't think one line is enough to convey the magnitude of the harm here-I am the only one who remembers the townspeople literally begging to *DIE* instead of going back? As Nando points out, Wanda KNEW that this was happening, Vision told her like 3 to 4 episodes ago - but its still played off as if she cares at the end...
@@darkestlight660
I don't think one line is enough but it would make it more clear to the audience that the show writers know what Wanda did was wrong. I personally think Wanda should either have a small villain arc or go through some serious redemption arc stuff. Either way she needs to have real consequences for what she did. Sp I feel like the line switch works, Wanda should feel guilty instead of somewhat angry at them
Showing that Wanda knew what she did was wrong is one thing - but the writers seem to brush over the consequences of the actions - honestly - despite how bad SWORD was in lots of instances, I find myself AGREEING with them on a lot of stuff regarding Wanda.... they did give her a chance to surrender, and she is torturing an entire town to the point of suicide.... That one line - no one line- is enough to actually show the depths of what psychological horror that is- as someone who has both been suicidal and had loved ones who are suicidal - it feels like the writers tossed in the line that they people wanted to die without any thought about how to show the consequences of that - I feel loved WandaVision, but that handling of the end stuff makes me incredibly angry.
@@darkestlight660
I completely agree. Hopefully she gets some consequences eventually.
Finally, people are showing some proper respect for Jackie Chan Adventures
Amen.
I'd love a live action. Sadly it's been so long, Jackie would have to be Uncle lol
I agree that the finale could have been better executed but I do think a lot of these suggestions take away from the complexity of Wanda's character and the relatability that comes with seeing her difficulty to make the right decision in that final episode, the stages of grief she goes through during the season and coming to terms with how the emotions she doesn't face, hurts those around her. I do love the line you suggested from the Merchant of Venice though, but think it would be lovely as Vision and Wanda's final words to each other, right before Vis disappears along with the hex.
Loved this. Huge fan of the idea that Wanda was the villain considering this was blatantly her fault. Agatha is a great character but I really feel the story lost something when she became a villain and took some of the onus off of Wanda (even though nothing I can think of that Agatha actually did lessened what Wanda did)
Agatha seemed to believe everything the Darkhold said.
The Mind Stone showed Wanda that the Darkhold was lying.
Agatha was bad cause she was bad and her motivation is power. As soon as she dropped the nosy neighbor thing was literally just dropping exposition and dropping evil villian laughs constantly. It's like they used evil villian 101 to write her character
@@bobsandwich3431 yeah they just created a random villain so they dont have to fully make wanda the villain yet
I feel like making Wanda not fully responsible, and making this "evil" Wanda makes the conflict significantly less interesting, it's like the Hydra reveal in Winter Soldier, it makes the answer to the moral conundrum easy.
But evil Wanda is, in her mystical lore, the Chthon part of Wanda. In one of the comics that has influenced WandaVision, "Darkhold: Pages from the Book of Sin", Agatha tells Wanda that Chthon attached his soul fragment to the dark side of her soul. The darker Wanda's emotions, the greater his influence over her. Chthon represents the darkness that always lurks in the human soul, the part seeking to become the whole.
@@Relugus And because Disney really likes setting up future projects...boom! You've got the perfect antagonist for DS2 in Chthon.
Nando, Disney should hire you as a writing consultant on every film project.
No, DC needs him more!
@@anthonydepasquale6672
🤣🤣🤣 So true!
Based on your more wild WandaVision hunches from before, I was kind of worried about your WV rewrite, but this is actually perfect. Absolutely prefer this to the way it really went down. Reminds me why I follow your videos. Keep making great content!
Terrific rewrite. The best one since I started watching your channel two years ago. And it makes the character arc and the story so much better! Kudos to you!
I like the idea of the show not just being about the Wandavision but also the... Wandivision
Underrated comment
“We will go along wi the worst, most venal protagonist alive, if we know the storyteller knows their protagonist is awful”
Ahem
Eren Jaeger
Light Yagami.
I think theres still a big missed opportunity. The finale would have been better if instead of a boring, seen-before magic fight, they fought by manipulating the sitcom, changing genres, swapping sets. The potential is massive and it could end up being the best thing in phase 4.
I was about to go to bed... 😶 And then this. One of my favourite UA-camrs and one of my favourite shows... Couldn't just add to "Watch later"
When are you doing a "Wanda Isn't Wanda" video analyzing how Wanda was actually based on Garfield in that comic where it turns out Jon and Odie are figments of his imagination
0:25 Thank you for being the first to understand that you can still really like parts of a final even if you did not like the rest.
At 11:30 "all that's left for Wanda is the devil"
Mephisto reference!
(Fantastic change as always Nando)
Superhero movies love having heroes feel regret about hurting people, but I can't remember the last time the hero actually apologized directly to anyone they hurt.
The "they'll never know what you sacrificed for them" line bugs me because she didn't really sacrifice anything for them. That'd be like if I stole your car but then later returned it and said you're welcome.
More like you took my car without realizing it because it had the soul of a loved one in it but then realized you stole it so you returned it even tho it means never seeing that loved one again. Thanks for your sacrifice
The kids were real. They are basically the first living beings ever created by magic. Even the inventor of chaos magic, Chthon, could only create vampires and demons, which are undead.
Grandpa Chthon has the kids, most likely.
@Gentleman Murk and didn't stop once she knew what she was doing
My immediate thought was that the finale was a lot weaker than the rest of the show. How it dealt with the villains and Wanda felt awkward
The whole show was amazing but the real finale was just a bit disappointing to me
What are you talking about? This finale is amazing! And it’s the real finale (or so my head canon says).
@@ganonk79 I was talking about the finale the show came up with I liked this one
@@thewonkytardis4177 Sorry, that was just a joke referring to 6:14
@@ganonk79 ah I did a wooosh ig
I loved all of Wanda and visions scenes. Hated all of the sword agent stuff alot. Really didn't like Monicas arch or story and she had as much personality as the car she smashed into the wall. So I'm 50/50 on the show
You have no idea how fast I clicked on this video
Now I have to remember at the start of every Marvel movie how Nando made the finale of WandaVision better and how the way I want to remember it will never be what happened.
Honestly I see Hayward as a antagonist, he lied about Wanda stealing Vision's body (using it to create White Vision) and out right said he intends to eliminate her even if she took the hex down.
Can you do a rewrite for Raya and the Last Dragon? The whole trust theme needs to be better explored, especially when Namaari is treated like she's completely innocent while Raya is treated like a bad guy for not trusting her.
One thing that bugged me about the finale
I had the shot of the kids being choked spoiled by Twitter and ever since then I’ve wondered why didn’t they just step backwards, I know they don’t want to be with Agnes but you’ll still be alive rather than dying trying to escape
Like my dogs when I walk them lol
You realize Agatha can still move and just fly higher or backwards, right?
The most disappointing part of WandaVision is when it went all Marvel-ly in the end and it felt a bit generic
I agree with you but I wonder why people don’t like the ‘Marvel’ side of marvel films and tv shows. It’s like liking ice cream but complaining how it’s always cold
@@kosiqueensly4506 it’s 20 something movies. You’d think people would catch on to certain things and realize how tiring it is.
I like the differing genres though just my opinion
@@kosiqueensly4506 I guess it comes down to what wanda said about Malcom in the Middle: "it's not that kind of show"
WandaVision, based on my interpretation, was an insightful character study and an examination of grief. Beam fights worked in Avengers Endgame because that the kind of movie it was.
@@kosiqueensly4506 people constantly praise the MCU setup for being able to explore all sorts of genres. While they remain consistently entertaining, to take full advantage of their use of genres, having some shows where it doesn't end with cg lasers could've been great.
Especially in a show about depression, grief and enslaving a town.
I think this is why I find the ending of Dr. Strange so satisfying. The movie and characters establish there are some things one shouldn't do, but Dr. Strange still does them, breaking the natural order to stop the bad guy by annoying him for what feels like an eternity...not overpowering him with a superhero smackup.
Nando, before I watch this, I just have one small change idea for Wandavision. The SWORD director guy in Wandavision should be replaced by Thaddeus Ross. Hes established in the MCU, he has the motive, and it can lead into She-Hulk. Also, Vision fighting Red Hulk would be awesome.
It'd make sense too considering Ross is already established to be a Metahuman hater and wants to control them because he's so patriotic and egoistic, he's the grey side of military. Hayward did everything right but he's treated like some sort of bad guy and every person keeps saying "you're going to jail" Ok but why? He has the authority to take out wanda, she's a threat. And the public won't care cause she has even been registered as a hydra terrorist before.
Two possible issues with this:
First, Ross is supposed to appear in Black Widow, which was how he is probably going to go into she-hulk.
Secondly, part of the fact that SWORD was appearing was because Monica's story and the skrulls needed to be expanded upon in prep for secret invasion, Captain Marvel 2
@@lordgiacomos2551 I mean yeah, it isnt perfect, but he can still appear in both She-Hulk and Black Widow, since those stories take place in times seperate to Wandavision. Also, Hayworth or Hayword or whatever didng have any connections to the Skrulls. Replacing him with Ross doesnt affect that story in any way. He might even be a better villain for Monica, since she kinda did nothing except set up Captain Marvel 2, and he could give her something to do in the finale.
@@willtheboredguy3556 The reason I associate replacing Hayward and setting up Monica's future is because without including SWORD, her plotline doesn't really get explored, and I don't think that Ross should be put in charge of SWORD from a narrative perspective, because it wouldn't really make sense for him to be in charge of some agency that he hadn't been involved in or even named by any characters up until that point in the timeline. (Spider-man: Far from Home takes place after the MCU Disney+ shows that have been released so far)
@@lordgiacomos2551 your point about Far From Home doesnt make sense because he wasnt in that movie. That is completely unrelated.
Your entire argument boils down to "SWORD is new to the MCU, so Ross cant be invloved in it" which makes no sense because SWORD seems to be an government organization. Ross is a high ranking member of the military, a part of the government. SWORD lost it's leader for 5 years, and we dont know what Ross was doing during those 5 years. SWORD and Ross are not two completely seperate entites. One is a organization focused on Meta-Humans, and the other is a guy who hates Meta-Humans.
One last thing, your issue isn't one based on narrative like you claim. It is actually more based on worldbuilding and internal logic of the story.
I mean, you could have brought up issues relating to Ross not being relevant to this Wanda story, which would be a narrative related gripe, but the SWORD stuff and the Wanda Sitcom stuff are very disconnected and Hayward isnt related to Wanda either. In fact, Ross knows Wanda through the Avengers. She caused the Sakovia Accounts with her fumbling of the bomb, and the Accords are the only reason Ross is in Civil War.
I kind of liked Agatha being on the line of villain. Her motives weren’t fleshed out like the whole Salem origin and why she wanted wandas power of spontaneous creation. That’s the one thing I’m missing in the rewrite, where does Agatha origin work in it...
Disney best be taking notes cause this wraps up everything beautifully.
After watching Multiverse of Madness I think Agatha saw what Wanda would become and got scared and that’s why she switched up so quickly on Wanda.
i don't see agatha's inconsistencies as inconsistencies, i like that her character is confused it makes her more human
Who's been messing with all these films? It's been Nando all Along.
Who's been making rewrites that thrill it's been Nando all along.
Nice, although I liked the finale more than most, I was still a little disappointed because I wanted something more weird.
I am glad that you made this video. The fact that you could make Agatha Harkness resembles her elderly comic counterpart and give Wanda a proper Jekyll and Hyde arc for the end of the series is great! I wish they had done exactly what you do here.
Agatha's "mentoring" was just her hubris speaking, she didn't see Wanda as a serious threat. Agatha used Wanda's kids in order to provoke her and make her use her powers to attack her so she can absorb them like she did with her old coven. It makes perfectly sense.
She should've turned herself in to SHIELD or something, she proved Hayward was right about powered individuals and now he's going to have a field day pushing to arrest anyone with powers for being dangerous and unaccountable.
She will not because how can she be evil again in doctor strange 2.
Forgot a tiny detail. You cant take vision out of the hex. And thats what you did. Haywards base isnt inside the hex.
It ended with a giant skybeam...try not to fix perfection
I have been thinking about this too, and i would solve the finale a different way: the emotional pain that Wanda goes through causes her powers to go out of control, and she creates what it is basically a magical black hole. The world she creates around it is not only to be emotional therapy, but to protect the outer world from the destruction. Then when Agatha takes Wanda's powers, it turns out the Wanda we've been following is also not real, and the real one is in a coma like state in the centre. This ties to the prophesy that she will end the world, but Agatha realizes Wanda needs her help. If you want Agatha stuck as the noisy neighbour, you could have Wanda and her trade places at the end. I'm sure Darcy would know about the energies of a black hole too, so she could perhaps discover it. Then you could have an exchange between Monica and Agatha, where Monica makes the point of the sacrifice Wanda made, trying to see her heroic side, whilst Agatha can make the point that she could've protected everyone without the sitcom, so it's more nuanced about what she did. In the series Wanda gets away with too much imo
Wait "White Vision brings Vision to Hayward" Outside the hex? Vision would disintegrate (not to nitpick not unlike your podc
Maybe inside the hex maybe?
But if we lessen her culpability in this use of this unforgivable curse (imperious) then it makes it harder for her to evolve into the big bad for this phase of the MCU.
My one small chsnge would be to Hayward. They set up a whole CADMUS thing of being scared of supers and wanting his own weapons perfectly and totally waste it!!!! They even hsve a set up where they could use Vision killing Wanda as a test to prove his creations successfulness but hope, dont even try to give him a motivation when it so easy!!!!! It would also add a lot more relatablity and if not sympathy at least understanding to his motivation. Its a classic villain motivation and would fit perfectly with this story!!!
Well I read somewhere that this isn't the last we've seen of Hayward
If that is of some comfort to you
@@emiliohernandez7214 i guess thats nice, but id honestly almost rather havr a different character take up a CADMUS role if thats their plan since they did him so poorly here. They have a major uphill battle with him if they want to use him again.
I don't like the Double-Wanda storyline. You can turn the thing how you want, it diminishes the choice and depth of her character. She needs to be responsible, yet we have to understand her. Here we get neither, because Wanda wasn't really herself for most of the series.
I think there’s a certain level of recognition in the rewrite that marvel and disney do not want wanda to end this series as full villain. this version allows the show to have a meaningful conversation about grief and a level of responsibility still attributed to wanda without completely blowing whatever marvel clearly has planned for her in the future. in a perfect world, yes, we could avoid the split wanda and just let her be the morally ambiguous character we know she is, but based on the ending we got and how much it downplayed the pain wanda caused, i think it’s fair to say that’s not what disney wanted for the character at this point in her arc. the split wanda gives them an out that is still fairly satisfying to viewers.
@@tuxegirls Come again?
My change would be to actually have Agnes, the character Agatha's playing in Wanda's show, actually play a more antagonistic role in all the plot lines of those earlier episodes. Only to flip it by the end to mesh with your change being that Agatha was only trying to understand what Wanda is and find a way to fix all this. That would've been a more interesting twist than the run of the mill villain thing.
Because as it stands, she doesn't really do enough to warrant the whole "It was Agatha all along" thing. Sure, _some_ of the things she does starts shattering the illusion of Wanda's world, but the SWORD team is equally responsible for all that. Her presence doesn't make that big a difference in the end because of it. So if Agatha has a more active role in the earlier episodes and SWORD just has a minor presence, then the whole story centering around her in the end makes more sense.
"published 6 seconds ago" literally couldnt be any earlier
Could have been 6 secs earlier
Literally could have been 5 seconds earlier
Seconds 1-5: am I a joke to you
I still love the show as a whole and still liked the finale, but I do believe the planned version of the finale (the one where Monica and the twins have bigger roles, Nicolas Scratch, etc) would've been as close as to what Nando described here. And it would've been a better way to end the show and bring us towards Multiverse of Madness.
But eh, we're already in the second show so I give it until March 2022 for the TraumaVision effect to wear off
I am disappointed with some parts of the finale, but I ain't gonna go crazy over it (especially the Bohner stuff, the MCU already pulled that trick like three times before, its something you get used to and say "meh")
I can't be the only one that hated the entire sword agent storyline
@@bobsandwich3431 Same! Really unnecessary. And SWORD was distorted a lot, even the acronym was changed.
This is so much better and actually delivers on all the themes the show set up. And the character interaction, I sorely missed that in the finale. 10/10 :D
Idk for as choppy as the last episode was, I didn’t mind Agatha’s mind wipe. I kind of hope when we see her again she is fully aware of the fact that she is trapped being a chipper townswoman, but full on admits she hates her life and wants to be an evil witch again.
17:57 "Wanda realizes the best parts of Vision are inside her"
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This is brilliant. You have outdone yourself.
One small thing. Agatha should say she wants to stay and hang out with her husband Ralph.
Agatha H. Bohner heh heh
I see where you're coming from with this, but I don't think it's better. It removes the theme of acceptance of grief from the whole of the episode and just keeps it at the end, and I think that makes her finally moving on at last much less believable. I found the part where she opened the hex to let the people out which opened her world up to danger to be the most beautiful part of the whole thing.
Me thinking: I like the way it ended. Then Nando blows my mind.
See, I'm on the opposite side of the "It wouldn't change what I did" vs "It wouldn't change how they feel about me". Because frankly, Wanda's guilt over her own actions *shouldn't* matter as much as her guilt over how those actions made people feel. Feeling guilty because you did something focuses on you and your feelings. Feeling guilty because something you did hurt someone centers the person you hurt and prioritizes them. Her victims and their feelings are more important than hers. And she's acknowledging that even if they knew what she'd sacrificed it wouldn't be enough for them and that's valid. Because it's not about whether Wanda forgives herself, or even whether we forgive her. The only people that can forgive her are the residents of Westview, they're not inclined to do so, and she knows that and validates it.
Charlie
You’re absolutely spot on
Not really, what Wanda said was the equivalent to "I'm sorry you feel that way". It doesn't sound look she feels her actions were truly terrible and that she's going to make up for them. It sounds like she simply pities the townspeople and hopes they'll eventually forget about the incident and forgive her. Maybe I watched a different show than you.
@@jlev1028 You must have, since it's in the context of someone giving her an out she refused to take. If she was "sorry they felt that way" she would have just agreed with Monica.
If we were talking about- say- horribly insulting or mentally harassing an individual - I'd be inclined to agree - however the actual crime here? Torturing people to the point of suicidal thoughts? An entire TOWN of people - yes you are right about the fact that she does validate the town's people's belief - but she appears to feel borderline NO remorse for her own actions. Yes, she is caught up in her emotions for visions and her boys, but she fails to recognize that those things came at the express cost of hurting others until the very end. After Vision had already warned her episodes prior. Simply validating their feelings is not enough here- if we are to take Wanda as someone who truly did at least a modicum of the right thing - that would entail ACKNOWLEDGING the harm she did to them - yet - she barely does.... The fact that Monica even SAYS THE LINE is telling - because Monica thinks that someone being abused is an excuse to allow them to abuse others.
My mother and my father were both abused as children, and as a child I was abused for the beginning of my childhood, though through various counseling and some realizations on my parents part, they stopped, and they told me what had happened - but they never - and I never- thought that their abuse was a justification for mine. That kind of rhetoric is dangerous and false - yes - people who are abused and manipulated should absolutely receive help, and should not be blamed for receiving the abuse - but unless they are literally incapable of functioning justly - it does not excuse how they hurt others- and Wanda hurt A LOT of otherrs.
I dunno what show you were watching, but it was pretty clear to me that Agnes was a full on villain, not someone genuinely wanting to help Wanda.
Pretty great changes, though I don't understand how Agnes was so confusing for you, personally.
I think the problem is that many viewers think that Agatha either needed to be her friend or to be manipulating/fighting her from the beginning. But what happened is that Agatha was a villain. She just didn't know the full story from the beginning.
Agatha found out about a powerful source of magic, started investigating and then after understanding what was going on, then, only for the latter parts of WandaVision, she started manipulating things to try and set Wanda up so she could absorb the magic for herself. The song also indicates that she was AGATHA all along, not Agnes. It doesn't necessarily mean that she was the reason for EVERYTHING, just that she'd been manipulating things for a while.
I think an even simpler fix for the show would be to reveal that Agatha is the one who led Wanda to find Vision's body and to push her to release her emotions so that Agatha could study her. Then it would have still been Wanda's fault, but Agatha WOULD have been behind it all along.
I'd like to add a bit after Wanda destroys the hex, walks out and sees Agatha, the latter would say "Hiya, neighbour." but in a sadder tone.
Vision couldn't survive outside the hex so he can't get to the machine
I like your re-write, but one change I'd make, is that Wanda becomes the Scarlet Witch by re-absorbing Vision and the hex. It would have worked so much better that way, because earlier we saw the Nexus advertisement, "a unique antidepressant to anchor you back to your reality. Or the reality of your choice". In the show Wanda becomes the Scarlet Witch by accepting her fate, but because of that advertisement, and because her whole thing is reality manipulation, it would have been more impactful if she became the Scarlet Witch by anchoring herself back to reality.That way the hex would have been a subconscious wake up call for her to realise who she really is.
I really like this rewrite! Really solid and fits better with the themes of the show.
It really did get on my nerves that Wanda herself didn't take responsibility for what she did. What she did was wrong and the way things played out, it seems they wanted to sweep the issue under the rug.
You're endings are always SO much more satisfying. Thank you for existing.
I really like what you did with the major beats of this story.
I saw, I clicked, I watched
Just like everyone else here
I saw, I snapped, 50% watched.
I ate a sandwich
I might be reading too much into this, but Agatha is centuries old. It makes no sense in-world for her to suddenly become as one-dimensional as she was in the end, let alone for the writing to suddenly nosedive in quality. My guess is that she never stopped filling a role in Wanda's story. She'll play whatever role she needs to to get close to Wanda, whether that's nosy neighbor, background mastermind, or stereotypical supervillain.
You da best Nando always putting my thoughts direct to video form lmao
Wow! You really nailed this! The original finale could've been so much better!
Am I the only person that thinks that Vision flew to Wakanda because that's where he died and was last with Wanda. I think he flew to Wakanda to find Wanda. When he gets there, he could look for her, not find her, run out of power and collapse with some Wakandan soldiers (maybe the Dora Milaje) running up on him as he passes out. When he awakes, he's on a table in Shuri's lab.He asks where Wanda is, she recaps what happened while he was unconscious, and learns that nobody can find Wanda now. Now Vision is devasted because because he realizes he was so close to Wanda before he up and ran off. He'll question his programming because he should have been able to surmise that Wanda wasn't still in Wakanda, he reacted emotionally, not logically, in the moment. This would have played in perfectly with your version.
Think of how much better the ending could be with the benefit of hindsight! It's too bad how COVID impacted the production of the final episodes.
My biggest disappointment was that they didnt use magneto when he fit the story perfectly. Because who better to understand wanda about grief and loss.. i wouldve loved if magneto took her and they create the brotherhood like in x3 jean grey joins the brotherhood ... i also wand Michael Fassbander back real bad
My small change would be to put the last 3 episodes together and watch them like a movie. I'm going to rewatch it with my kids soon and we're planning to do that.
I really enjoyed this rewrite, it’s definitely much more consistent with the rest of the show. However I can’t help but feel Wandavision isn’t the kind of story that needs a villain. I’d prefer if Wanda was the bad guy and dealt with her grief on her own. That way it becomes more poignant when she decides to take down the hex and move on from living a fantasy, all the while grappling with the consequences of her actions. Nonetheless, as always, you delivered something spectacular, Nando.
Not all your videos resonate with me, but maaan. This one is a top 1. I was so disappointed in the finale when the initial focus of wanda being in depression and responsible for what happened in westview has moved towards agatha being evil all along. They kinda made wanda responsible, but in a such disney manner that i (and many others i believe) felt almost nothing. Your rewrite made me feel better.