Seriously great info here mate, i really appreciate it! Especially as im looking to get kitted out for hubting gear here in nz. And the tent decision is the hardest part, as we can get 4 seasons in a day, any time of year! And this looks like itll have room for my wee fella also 😊
Love that you called the timeout until further review. Seeing the results was pretty amazing. I think you do a great job of finding pros and cons with the mass diversity in the outdoor world. 💪
Really interesting as I have exactly the same issue with my Fjallraven Abisco View 2 tent. Just the 4th time using it and it failed in moderate rain. It was not a particularly humid day and I was not wet but it still came through and water pooled inside the tent. The specialist company that Fjallraven use to test their equipment could not reproduce the issue and Fjallraven even tested it themselves and could not reproduce the issue. Fjallraven reproofed the tent and sent it back to me but I’ve got little confidence in it sadly so always have to now take a tarp the same as your trip. Very strange and very frustrating!
I live in the UK. No chance of me buying or using these lightweight / ultralight American tents. You just gotta look at the specs. Main thing for me as well as weight is the ability to handle bad weather.
I have not ran this tent since this review. I have heard similar accounts of minor water seepage through that top zipper but when I had it fully closed it was not an issue for me. It does seem to be a bit of a design flaw that the flap coverage over that area is not slightly larger.
Greetings from Australia (Where "Sea to Summit" HQ is located) Your review was awesome and honest. I have a range of gear from the Sea to Summit company and have always found that their products are high quality and well worth the somewhat premium price. That's because you do actually get a premium product. Thanks' heaps Mate for the bloody ripper of a review!
A friend of mine recently had the same experience. What about setting up and spraying it with DWR? I’ve got a Telos 3p but haven’t had it in any rain, being in Southern California
I sent mine back. I backpack primarily in the PNW and every time it rained water would pool on the flat roof and then leak right in the middle. There is a flat on the TR2 design that really needs to be fixed. The Alto on the other is fantastic.
Interesting. I’ve seen the Slingfin Portal 2 stand up to some really wild weather I’m wondering how it would have done instead. I don’t like the tapered floor plan of the Telos 2.
Could you commenton the size/usability of the vestibules? I have a Big Agnes Copper Spur UL3, and I find that the vestibules are so narrow and tight that specially during rain they were very akward and not usable as a buffer between the inner tent for taking of wet jackets etc.
I typically try to show those, if you watch the big review that preceded this one I show the vestibules for all the tents. I normally find vestibules far to small personally.
Have you considered the nylon 3+ Season version of this tent? Perhaps a side by side comparison would be worthwhile? I live on the west coast as well and would be curious to see a functional difference between both inner materials in our relative climate
I appreciate and respect your honest and humble analysis of the situation. It's easy to try to pin an issue on someone else instead of taking responsibility for a potential user error. Another great review. P.S. Will we be hearing about the Exo K4 from you soon? I'm excited about the new design, and suspect you may have been involved in the testing of it. 😉
looking to get a new tent for backpacking this year and this was one of my options, however, after seeing some mixed reviews, I needed something more in-depth, and honestly, you've convinced me to get this after seeing your initial evaluation, and now this. I also live in Vancouver and do backpacking primarily during the summer so the fabric specs really sold me on this! Thank you so much for the detailed review, I'm looking forward to the next one.
Definitely a shit design if those vent covers don't extend far enough to have the vents unzipped when storming. Unfortunate cause everything else about that tent is exactly what I'm looking for
Seriously great info here mate, i really appreciate it!
Especially as im looking to get kitted out for hubting gear here in nz.
And the tent decision is the hardest part, as we can get 4 seasons in a day, any time of year!
And this looks like itll have room for my wee fella also 😊
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Love that you called the timeout until further review. Seeing the results was pretty amazing. I think you do a great job of finding pros and cons with the mass diversity in the outdoor world. 💪
Can't be perfect all the time :)
@@MindfulHunter The world is an imperfect place. That what make it so fascinating.
Really interesting as I have exactly the same issue with my Fjallraven Abisco View 2 tent. Just the 4th time using it and it failed in moderate rain. It was not a particularly humid day and I was not wet but it still came through and water pooled inside the tent. The specialist company that Fjallraven use to test their equipment could not reproduce the issue and Fjallraven even tested it themselves and could not reproduce the issue. Fjallraven reproofed the tent and sent it back to me but I’ve got little confidence in it sadly so always have to now take a tarp the same as your trip. Very strange and very frustrating!
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Exactly what I was looking for, thank you very much for your effort!
You bet!
Love your logic. Would really like to see a video about your history and how you arrived at being such a bad-ass solo hunter. Love all your content.
I cover a lot of that in pieces on my podcast but I could think about doing a single story type vid in the future,.
Ditto, props to you my man 🤙
I live in the UK. No chance of me buying or using these lightweight / ultralight American tents. You just gotta look at the specs. Main thing for me as well as weight is the ability to handle bad weather.
Yeah same here in Canada.
Do we have an update on this tent Jay?
Keep up the great work mate. Love your vids.
I have not ran this tent since this review. I have heard similar accounts of minor water seepage through that top zipper but when I had it fully closed it was not an issue for me. It does seem to be a bit of a design flaw that the flap coverage over that area is not slightly larger.
Greetings from Australia (Where "Sea to Summit" HQ is located) Your review was awesome and honest. I have a range of gear from the Sea to Summit company and have always found that their products are high quality and well worth the somewhat premium price. That's because you do actually get a premium product.
Thanks' heaps Mate for the bloody ripper of a review!
My pleasure man. Glad it was helpful.
A friend of mine recently had the same experience. What about setting up and spraying it with DWR? I’ve got a Telos 3p but haven’t had it in any rain, being in Southern California
Been good for me ever since I started making sure that roof zipper was sealed tight.
I sent mine back. I backpack primarily in the PNW and every time it rained water would pool on the flat roof and then leak right in the middle. There is a flat on the TR2 design that really needs to be fixed. The Alto on the other is fantastic.
That’s interesting. I’ll keep an eye on that.
Interesting. I’ve seen the Slingfin Portal 2 stand up to some really wild weather I’m wondering how it would have done instead. I don’t like the tapered floor plan of the Telos 2.
Slingfin make good tents
Have you had a chance to use it again?
Yep. Works great.
Here in 2024 what is now your preferred TRUE 2P tent for wild weather 3S use..? I’m looking at the Telos and the Spinfin Portal 2.
I like the telos and the niak
@@MindfulHunter I will look at the Niak again… pricey import to Australia.
Another kick ass review man, looks like a sweet tent, makes sense on possible water failure
Thanks bro!
Could you commenton the size/usability of the vestibules? I have a Big Agnes Copper Spur UL3, and I find that the vestibules are so narrow and tight that specially during rain they were very akward and not usable as a buffer between the inner tent for taking of wet jackets etc.
I typically try to show those, if you watch the big review that preceded this one I show the vestibules for all the tents. I normally find vestibules far to small personally.
dude I'm giving you the thumbs up just based on the video backdrop. Thats dope.
Haha I’ll take it. Thanks bro.
Have you considered the nylon 3+ Season version of this tent? Perhaps a side by side comparison would be worthwhile? I live on the west coast as well and would be curious to see a functional difference between both inner materials in our relative climate
I think it’s pretty safe to say you would get significantly more condensation in the plus model.
Good review. Do you have a link for that tarp set up you mentioned?
zpacks.com/products/flat-tarp-7-x-9-w-8-loops
I appreciate and respect your honest and humble analysis of the situation. It's easy to try to pin an issue on someone else instead of taking responsibility for a potential user error. Another great review.
P.S. Will we be hearing about the Exo K4 from you soon? I'm excited about the new design, and suspect you may have been involved in the testing of it. 😉
Should have the Exo review up in a couple weeks. Just waiting on my production pack.
Did you do more testing how was it
I have. Zero leakage so far. I did talk with one other person who had a vent issue but I’m not convinced they just didn’t have the zipper 100% closed.
@@MindfulHunter good to know i want the bikepacking version of that tent and did hear some esssiue before ..
looking to get a new tent for backpacking this year and this was one of my options, however, after seeing some mixed reviews, I needed something more in-depth, and honestly, you've convinced me to get this after seeing your initial evaluation, and now this. I also live in Vancouver and do backpacking primarily during the summer so the fabric specs really sold me on this! Thank you so much for the detailed review, I'm looking forward to the next one.
My pleasure. Glad it was helpful!
How is the tent? Does it stay dry? Im thinking between this tent and the MSR hubba hubba
is there a winter version of this TR2 tent?
There is. The TR2 Plus. Full fabric interior.
Definitely a shit design if those vent covers don't extend far enough to have the vents unzipped when storming. Unfortunate cause everything else about that tent is exactly what I'm looking for
They definitely could have used beefier vent covers for sure.