One thing to add about getting an MWS is that the website themselves has it for the least amount of money, just that shipping is gonna cost a lot. Compare that to 3rd party sellers which mark this gun up by 50%, I would take the 2 week shipping for 50 extra dollars than the 775 dollar Mk18 that could've cost 480.
Ok Angry Gun INTERNALS I'd agree. They are no good, the cosmetic parts are fine. As for T8 parts, people don't realise this, but a lot of T8 parts are identical to G&P, for example their bolt extension with rollers. There is some kind of relationship between them. In fact T8's full name is T8 SP System. G&P used to sell parts under the name Sun Power System (SP System). So far I've not found any T8 parts that are substandard, but I have seen others slating them online. Admittedly their nozzles are not as good as factory marui ones, but they are perfectly fine. I'd be interested to know which T8 parts you've tried.
Great video man. I have MK18 mod1 for 2 years and it went through a lot of upgrades to be working properly with green gas. The main issue I had with my rifle were bolt bounce that caused double feed.
Getting a Mk 18 soon, this was super helpful! Planning to switch out the nozzle spring for green gas use, but that’s pretty much it internally. Thanks!
I’m really enjoying mine. Got the Cyma version at $500 and it’s definitely nice. The internals and finish is def better than the $350 double eagle version. Installing an ra tech npas in a few days
@@danielwu7238 so far a steel bolt w/trades, adjustable trigger, aluminum buffer, the fde is alil darker in color, t8 lancer mag, better hop up, better gas efficiency, c1 Cyma platinum stock, new CGS(Cyma gas system) and better aluminum external construction in terms of finish. But DE still uses the zet system for lock back
yo i just bought one which gas would be best to use im thinking propane, also what brand npas would work in the bolt would a vfc npas work? going to be learning this system would love to make a buddy to help me learn.
@@genjicarry3720 propane would be just fine. Just don’t forget to add silicone. I put an ratech npas in mine because it’s designed for the mws system so I’m not sure if the vfc will work.
I just bought the new cyma mk18 because I finally felt confident with gbbr after rebuilding an entire vfc gbbr mp7,ive been using it for close to a year now after rebuild with no malfunctions and was wondering opinions on how complex an m4 gbbr system is compared to a mp7
I found a nice and easy trick to adjust the hop and that is take the back pin out and lift the upper move the bolt back enough so you can reach the adjuster with your finger and your good to go. Doing liek that if far more easier for me and I can fine tune it without the need of putting my fingers up in the mag well
Its basically the idea that you just went through a bunch of ammo engaging people but you have a lull in the fight but you expect a bunch of contact soon so you put a fresh mag in
Hey! I probably got this recommended since I just bought my first MWS, but what do you use to lube up the bolt carrier, charging handle and fire control group? I'm a little on the fence regarding whether I should he using silicone oil, lithium vaseline or anything else.
Do you think it would be a good idea to use these guns for military force-on-force training? If you simply buy the gun and magazines and use them as they are straight out of the box, are there airsoft guns that work reliably and behave like real-life ones?
One more question: Are there AEGs that will not shoot when your magazine is empty? Does the Tokyo Marui Mk18 NGRS have this feature? I think that would be a more reliable option out of the box.
Ngrs is likely the best OUT OF THE BOX gun for training. Realistic controls, haptic feedback (recoil) and you can speed reload without worrying and dropping a $50 magazine and breaking it.
Referring to the picture you showed, I just want to confirm if you are using 0.28 grams BLS bbs or were you just recommending BLS bbs and not the weight of the BBs?
Yeah the hand guard might be OK. But you’re definitely one of the lucky ones using an Angry gun Nozzle! I’ve heard too many horror stories to support that claim.
How does the GM nozzle with with the dynamic precision spring set work together? When I installed mine I had to use the stock spring for the small part in the front of the nozzle because the dp made it so stiff and it had no movement. Just curious if you ran into this issue.
Had a feeling the strike industries mws was odd I’m guessing the high pricing has to do with externals? I do find strange that getting the external parts separate is harder, they been sold out for a while.
Do you play in Norcal? Just started (bought a hi capa) and headed to game pod combat zone some time soon. Thinking about getting this rifle for a mil sim setup!
Hi nice informative video just want to get your input planning on buying mws, do you think buying guns modify urgi is better since its somewhat upgraded compared to buying a stock tm mws?
I haven’t heard much about the GM. But from what I know the aftermarket parts work well. But that’s doesn’t mean the sum of the GM parts + tolerances makes a reliable gun. If you have the money, I would always start with a TM then build up. But GM might be a solid option that I don’t have the data on.
My MWS is light striking really bad it feels like the hammer is dropping very lightly but i have no idea how to remedy this? Could it be the magazine or a spring needs replacing???
It's possible to over fill the magazine making the gas knocker incredibly hard to hit. Resulting in a light strike. If the gas knocker feels super hard on the magazine. Let it release some gas with a spritz or two. If that doesn’t work Try lighter gas or a stronger hammer spring
@@Penguin75th thank you for the reply! I figured out i had a crushed bb in the trigger box and it was not letting the hammer hit the gas knocker hard enough lol!
I have angry gun nozzle in end of life, and one of my spare is the unicorn nozzle that came with my HAO bolt, did you try it ? Also for the HAO bolt if you're interested, not the best has the aluminium is too soft so ended up to mark it a lot with my trigger hammer
I have a Unicorn Nozzle in waiting. From what I can tell it seems to be the right spec. Some others are testing it, but no verdict has been called just yet.
Hey man, I'm new to airsoft and wanting to buy an M4 for my first assult. I was thinking of buy the GHK daniel defence licensed but heard alot bad things about it. What gun would you reccommend for a beginner. I've got money so don't worry I'm the type that wants to buy the best once so I dont feel I need to upgrade later. Can you tellm the name of the exact gun you have here and how much it cost to build.
So far, we haven't had any good luck with anything that wasn't a TM MWS. We have had some. OK experience with the new Noveske MWS clone, but theres still some caveats you need to address (replace the nozzle and no rail compatibility). I do not recommend any GBBR's that are not TM at this point in time, but hopefully it changes soon!
I’ve had good luck with Aim top as well (good seal, large can). Have been trying Swiss arms as well since evike has them on sale. Also good results due to the plastic tip
use longer and thinner inner barrel, configure your bolt carrier group to be more efficient by making it lightweight. replace the hop up with a CNC one and use a better hop up rubber. finally, you can use red gas or black gas (no lubricant) to make the entire mechansim snappy. gbbrs are mostly subject to joule creep, so I'd focus on muzzle energy instead of muzzle velocity by using heavier BBs.
Heyo! I was wondering if you've used/heard anything about the Guns Modify URGI MWS that's out there. It's enticing because it's already in URGI configuration, so that's a ton less work for me, but I'm not sure if it's really a good gun or not. Any info would be awesome
So far the GM parts have been reliable. So I'd imagine all of their parts into one gun wouldn't be terrible. But haven't seen a lot in the wild, so I Can't say.
I have 7 mags- the original stanag and 6 Type 89 mags. All of them sputter gas as soon as I start filling them, so I have no way to know if the mags are full. about 1/3 of the time my mags will underfill and sputter out Do you know what the problem could be? I'm using dry propane with a red and silver propane adapter.
IF you haven't done the Tilt and fill method already, you can try the green gas mod (a quick youtube search will give you all you need). If that doesn't work, may be a clogged fill valve, and you'll have to disassemble and clean to get it running. But I'd start with the tilt method, then go to more permanent modifications if needed.
Hey man glad I found ur Chanel recently love ur content been running gas guns for the past two years but lookin to get a Mws now but with the cyma clone I’m torn if I should wait for the clones to come out and see how they are or just buy a tm what ya think man
Hard to say. I’ve seen the CYMA clone get pushed back almost a year now. It depends on if you want to wait or if you want to play! Since you’ve already owned GBBR’s I’m sure you know the risks of a new system.
Haven’t been keeping my eye on the pulse for those. So far most of their components are working well in our MWS’s but haven’t had direct experience with a full GM MWS. YMMV but from what I’ve seen first hand on MWS clones (Double Eagle and T8) it’s not something that is working well. Whereas we have over 20+ Tokyo Marui MWS guns that haven’t really had major issues
@@HyperLethal0100 same here i am thinking of getting rid of my aeg’s and to get a mws and just stick with gbb in general because when I got back into airsoft back in 2021 I wanted to be immersed into tactical games I have yet to run my aap01 that is kitted out with a ctm mp7 kit
So, I run a WE scar and it's been running for a solid 8 years. I chose the scar because the hop up adjustment is easy to adjust. However, after just getting an MWS, the WE is lacking in accuracy and reliability. With the WE just forget about last round bolt hold open. My stock MWS shoots beams compared to my scar with an upgraded barrel and bucking. Also, most WE guns are going to shoot way to hot for DSOC. Most WE rifles shoot around 400 fps out the box.
What you need to know is to leave a stock MWS alone. Not unless, you’re more knowledgeable than a Japanese TM Engineer, then leave it alone. Buy SPARE parts for green gas usage, that’s it.
The whole "duster gas" bs made me get a WE tech that needed $250 in upgrades to be nearly as good. Better though, because i like the bolt carrier better
I can recommend the ace1arms/SAA mws Pmags. They work really well, and are made well. In my experiences they hold duster gas for a very long time without any leaks. How it would work with propane might be different mind you. For anyone who cares they have perfect repro trades and markings. I recommend them if you can find them at a good price.
What you need to know is to not be poor when buying a MWS
Fr. I wanted the MTR until I found out it’s damn near $600-$700 USD. 😔
Cheaper than a ghk
I ordered the mags first, put away 250, waiting for next pay check to use that 250 and just shove out the difference lol
@@Callsign_Kishinyeah my mk18 cost that in pounds sterling so feel yourself lucky
@@hughsmith2657 damn. I’m sure it was worth it. 😄😅
One thing to add about getting an MWS is that the website themselves has it for the least amount of money, just that shipping is gonna cost a lot. Compare that to 3rd party sellers which mark this gun up by 50%, I would take the 2 week shipping for 50 extra dollars than the 775 dollar Mk18 that could've cost 480.
i have never had an airsoft replica rifle, but would definitely recommend this to anyone who would want to buy one.. very informative
Thanks
Omg, big thanks bro! Really one of the best FAQ videos about MWS
Ok Angry Gun INTERNALS I'd agree. They are no good, the cosmetic parts are fine. As for T8 parts, people don't realise this, but a lot of T8 parts are identical to G&P, for example their bolt extension with rollers. There is some kind of relationship between them. In fact T8's full name is T8 SP System. G&P used to sell parts under the name Sun Power System (SP System). So far I've not found any T8 parts that are substandard, but I have seen others slating them online. Admittedly their nozzles are not as good as factory marui ones, but they are perfectly fine. I'd be interested to know which T8 parts you've tried.
Great video man. I have MK18 mod1 for 2 years and it went through a lot of upgrades to be working properly with green gas. The main issue I had with my rifle were bolt bounce that caused double feed.
this video is perfect! I own a TM mk18 and I'm going to start using it soon and your video helped heaps, cheers!
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Getting a Mk 18 soon, this was super helpful! Planning to switch out the nozzle spring for green gas use, but that’s pretty much it internally. Thanks!
CYMA just released a MWS GBBR system at shot show 2023 at the EVIKE booth. Looks very promising with 2 models one at $500 and another at $350.
I’m really enjoying mine. Got the Cyma version at $500 and it’s definitely nice. The internals and finish is def better than the $350 double eagle version. Installing an ra tech npas in a few days
@@stacyjackson1255 Do you know what is actually different between the two? Like what are you getting for the $500 version over the $350?
@@danielwu7238 so far a steel bolt w/trades, adjustable trigger, aluminum buffer, the fde is alil darker in color, t8 lancer mag, better hop up, better gas efficiency, c1 Cyma platinum stock, new CGS(Cyma gas system) and better aluminum external construction in terms of finish. But DE still uses the zet system for lock back
yo i just bought one which gas would be best to use im thinking propane, also what brand npas would work in the bolt would a vfc npas work? going to be learning this system would love to make a buddy to help me learn.
@@genjicarry3720 propane would be just fine. Just don’t forget to add silicone. I put an ratech npas in mine because it’s designed for the mws system so I’m not sure if the vfc will work.
I just bought the new cyma mk18 because I finally felt confident with gbbr after rebuilding an entire vfc gbbr mp7,ive been using it for close to a year now after rebuild with no malfunctions and was wondering opinions on how complex an m4 gbbr system is compared to a mp7
What are I supposed to use if not green gas I thought that was pretty low power gas since it’s at 115 psi? (New to Gbb just got a tm m4a1s)
Nice setup! Love your MWS, what kind of optics are you using?
I found a nice and easy trick to adjust the hop and that is take the back pin out and lift the upper move the bolt back enough so you can reach the adjuster with your finger and your good to go.
Doing liek that if far more easier for me and I can fine tune it without the need of putting my fingers up in the mag well
Great Video, I just purchased my first GBBR and need all the advice in case something go wrong along the line.
🙏🙏🙏
New to airsoft here; Getting my first TM MWS in a few days since I heard a lot of good things about it as an OOTB GBBR,
Enjoy!! Welcome to the club and don’t forget to Join Heavy Recoil Club on Discord if you haven’t already. Great GBBR community
What does tactical reload mean? It means reloading when you still have lots of Bb in the magazine?
Its basically the idea that you just went through a bunch of ammo engaging people but you have a lull in the fight but you expect a bunch of contact soon so you put a fresh mag in
Hello what u think about urgi 11.5 tokyo marui gbb ?
Seems like the best MWS to buy right now!
Hey! I probably got this recommended since I just bought my first MWS, but what do you use to lube up the bolt carrier, charging handle and fire control group? I'm a little on the fence regarding whether I should he using silicone oil, lithium vaseline or anything else.
Do you think it would be a good idea to use these guns for military force-on-force training? If you simply buy the gun and magazines and use them as they are straight out of the box, are there airsoft guns that work reliably and behave like real-life ones?
One more question: Are there AEGs that will not shoot when your magazine is empty? Does the Tokyo Marui Mk18 NGRS have this feature? I think that would be a more reliable option out of the box.
Ngrs is likely the best OUT OF THE BOX gun for training. Realistic controls, haptic feedback (recoil) and you can speed reload without worrying and dropping a $50 magazine and breaking it.
@@pingu.0211 Thanks, man.
Where did you get your magazine sleeve/protector?
What do you think about the EMG / Daniel Defense Licensed M4A1 SOPMOD Block II Gas Blowback Airsoft Rifle (Model: Tan / FSP Rail)
What kind of gas do you use for it? Is regular green gas okay?
Referring to the picture you showed, I just want to confirm if you are using 0.28 grams BLS bbs or were you just recommending BLS bbs and not the weight of the BBs?
Hey man, love the vids. What the name of that scope?
I Have the angrygun handguard and gen2 nozzle with npas and they are very good ,nota a single problem
same, my nozzle drags alot though so Im sure it will snap some time
Yeah the hand guard might be OK. But you’re definitely one of the lucky ones using an Angry gun Nozzle! I’ve heard too many horror stories to support that claim.
Why is the PTS barrel adapter not good? Are there any other alternatives for putting AEG handguards on the MWS?
Theres tons of adapters out there already. Just don't use the PTS one since it's Spec'd for PTS rails only
How does the GM nozzle with with the dynamic precision spring set work together? When I installed mine I had to use the stock spring for the small part in the front of the nozzle because the dp made it so stiff and it had no movement. Just curious if you ran into this issue.
Had a feeling the strike industries mws was odd I’m guessing the high pricing has to do with externals? I do find strange that getting the external parts separate is harder, they been sold out for a while.
Great video
🙌🙌🙌
I have TM m18 . What upgrades do you recommend?
Can I use ultraforce r134a gas on it?
What’s a good suppressor for the mk18
Do you play in Norcal? Just started (bought a hi capa) and headed to game pod combat zone some time soon. Thinking about getting this rifle for a mil sim setup!
Bro can u get the ice pick valve from jkarmy n I’ll buy it off you? It won’t allow me to pay for it from there site
Hi nice informative video just want to get your input planning on buying mws, do you think buying guns modify urgi is better since its somewhat upgraded compared to buying a stock tm mws?
I haven’t heard much about the GM. But from what I know the aftermarket parts work well. But that’s doesn’t mean the sum of the GM parts + tolerances makes a reliable gun. If you have the money, I would always start with a TM then build up. But GM might be a solid option that I don’t have the data on.
Nice bikes
what is the name of the stock on ak at 18:46
Real steel: PMM “Kate moss”. Airsoft: Airsoft Artisan Shorter folding stock
what tools to dissassemble the mk18
My MWS is light striking really bad it feels like the hammer is dropping very lightly but i have no idea how to remedy this? Could it be the magazine or a spring needs replacing???
It's possible to over fill the magazine making the gas knocker incredibly hard to hit. Resulting in a light strike. If the gas knocker feels super hard on the magazine. Let it release some gas with a spritz or two. If that doesn’t work Try lighter gas or a stronger hammer spring
@@Penguin75th thank you for the reply! I figured out i had a crushed bb in the trigger box and it was not letting the hammer hit the gas knocker hard enough lol!
man I want a mws so bad
Does anyone have a build list for his TM DMR build or steer me in the right direction?
I have angry gun nozzle in end of life, and one of my spare is the unicorn nozzle that came with my HAO bolt, did you try it ? Also for the HAO bolt if you're interested, not the best has the aluminium is too soft so ended up to mark it a lot with my trigger hammer
I have a Unicorn Nozzle in waiting. From what I can tell it seems to be the right spec. Some others are testing it, but no verdict has been called just yet.
Hey man, I'm new to airsoft and wanting to buy an M4 for my first assult. I was thinking of buy the GHK daniel defence licensed but heard alot bad things about it. What gun would you reccommend for a beginner. I've got money so don't worry I'm the type that wants to buy the best once so I dont feel I need to upgrade later. Can you tellm the name of the exact gun you have here and how much it cost to build.
So far, we haven't had any good luck with anything that wasn't a TM MWS. We have had some. OK experience with the new Noveske MWS clone, but theres still some caveats you need to address (replace the nozzle and no rail compatibility). I do not recommend any GBBR's that are not TM at this point in time, but hopefully it changes soon!
@@pingu.0211 so your saying TM m4 guns are best for reliability?
What’s your preferred green gas brand? I buy the tall boy aim top cans and feel like their nozzle just doesn’t seat right with Mws mags
I’ve had good luck with Aim top as well (good seal, large can). Have been trying Swiss arms as well since evike has them on sale. Also good results due to the plastic tip
I can recommend ASG Ultrair, since it has no silicone in it.
How can I raise the fps on this gun?
use longer and thinner inner barrel, configure your bolt carrier group to be more efficient by making it lightweight. replace the hop up with a CNC one and use a better hop up rubber. finally, you can use red gas or black gas (no lubricant) to make the entire mechansim snappy. gbbrs are mostly subject to joule creep, so I'd focus on muzzle energy instead of muzzle velocity by using heavier BBs.
Any good TM MWS Clones out there? It seems most MWS are sold out everywhere.
Double eagle n4 Noveske
Heyo! I was wondering if you've used/heard anything about the Guns Modify URGI MWS that's out there. It's enticing because it's already in URGI configuration, so that's a ton less work for me, but I'm not sure if it's really a good gun or not. Any info would be awesome
So far the GM parts have been reliable. So I'd imagine all of their parts into one gun wouldn't be terrible. But haven't seen a lot in the wild, so I Can't say.
Qq- how did you remove the flash hider? Mine is stuck on hard
Hi pingu, the urg-i hand guard from AEG? if i want have 370MM inner barrel so witch hand guard match for it?
370mm is 14.5 inches. So theres your answer!
I have 7 mags- the original stanag and 6 Type 89 mags. All of them sputter gas as soon as I start filling them, so I have no way to know if the mags are full. about 1/3 of the time my mags will underfill and sputter out
Do you know what the problem could be? I'm using dry propane with a red and silver propane adapter.
IF you haven't done the Tilt and fill method already, you can try the green gas mod (a quick youtube search will give you all you need). If that doesn't work, may be a clogged fill valve, and you'll have to disassemble and clean to get it running. But I'd start with the tilt method, then go to more permanent modifications if needed.
@@pingu.0211is JKArmy a good place to order a Mws rifle.? Just worried about customs seizing guns.
How often do you go to gamepod? Im going for the first time this weekend! Im from the bay, do you do meetups?
Hey dude! Follow my instagram @pingu.0211 for when we are playing. I post there in my story for any upcoming game days!
Hey man glad I found ur Chanel recently love ur content been running gas guns for the past two years but lookin to get a Mws now but with the cyma clone I’m torn if I should wait for the clones to come out and see how they are or just buy a tm what ya think man
Hard to say. I’ve seen the CYMA clone get pushed back almost a year now. It depends on if you want to wait or if you want to play! Since you’ve already owned GBBR’s I’m sure you know the risks of a new system.
Don't get the CYMA clone if you want to run MWS mags they are NOT compatible
@@e66ninja59 how so?
@Repptar Tokyo Marui MWS mags won't fit into CYMA GBBR. That's if you want to run MWS mags.
How many shots do you get with a can of green gas?
Roughly 2 mags worth, Probably could do more, but you will run into accuracy issues and low FPS
How do you feel about the guns modify MWS builds?
Haven’t been keeping my eye on the pulse for those. So far most of their components are working well in our MWS’s but haven’t had direct experience with a full GM MWS. YMMV but from what I’ve seen first hand on MWS clones (Double Eagle and T8) it’s not something that is working well. Whereas we have over 20+ Tokyo Marui MWS guns that haven’t really had major issues
@pingu.0211 dang, the MWS I was looking at went out of stock so I opted for a GM MWS instead 🥲 well, hopefully it turns out well for me 💀
The mws platform would be my only last m4 airsoft gbb purchase!
Honestly debating selling all my other airsoft guns and just keeping the tm glock
@@HyperLethal0100 same here i am thinking of getting rid of my aeg’s and to get a mws and just stick with gbb in general because when I got back into airsoft back in 2021 I wanted to be immersed into tactical games I have yet to run my aap01 that is kitted out with a ctm mp7 kit
Where di you get that rail? I need to know the brand/specs too. Thanks! :)
HAO is the top replica manufacturer, ZPARTS is by far the worse i’ve seen and used
This!
@@witcheddoctor2720 Damn I thought ZPARTS was decent. I can vouch for HAO, theyre a great brand
Hao is pretty much perfect
Are we tech gbbr’s any good?
Yep. If you replace it with a MWS!
@@pingu.0211 😭 true true man I really want to play at dsoc but they sold out
So, I run a WE scar and it's been running for a solid 8 years. I chose the scar because the hop up adjustment is easy to adjust. However, after just getting an MWS, the WE is lacking in accuracy and reliability. With the WE just forget about last round bolt hold open. My stock MWS shoots beams compared to my scar with an upgraded barrel and bucking. Also, most WE guns are going to shoot way to hot for DSOC. Most WE rifles shoot around 400 fps out the box.
can someone tell me what rail that is
It’s a HAO URGI rail. But a clone of the mk16 Gieselle
@@pingu.0211 thx
@@pingu.0211 i was able to fit HAO rail just the nut and rail. No shims needed
@@S1000rrboy Yeah it depends on what outer barrel you have and if it wobbles. Most of the time you need shims, some of the time its totally fine.
No pants…pants… I’d watch, either way the gun looks amazing😂
Thanks for watching!!!
My brother in christ, can you make a beginner tutorial on hopup)
I use red gas lol
What you need to know is to leave a stock MWS alone. Not unless, you’re more knowledgeable than a Japanese TM Engineer, then leave it alone. Buy SPARE parts for green gas usage, that’s it.
Yeah only things you should switch out is the nozzle and hammer spring, the hop up arm, and eventually the buffer but not right away
@@JohnDoe-qj3om Why change the hammer spring?
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The whole "duster gas" bs made me get a WE tech that needed $250 in upgrades to be nearly as good. Better though, because i like the bolt carrier better
ayy we have the same speedloader and green gas lol
bruh the music makes me sad
dont use it again. :(
sir giveaway some cheap airsoft rifle❤❤
I can recommend the ace1arms/SAA mws Pmags. They work really well, and are made well. In my experiences they hold duster gas for a very long time without any leaks.
How it would work with propane might be different mind you.
For anyone who cares they have perfect repro trades and markings.
I recommend them if you can find them at a good price.