THE END of das Klub

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  • Опубліковано 17 гру 2017
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    It´s a more serious topic in which I try to explain how and why the Industrial Dance Community das Klub ended. Thank you for everyone who was active on there. And despite the end thank you very much too the Admin for keeping it alive for so long.
    Sorry if I look a bit "messy"...I acutally didn´t wanna film that day, but I also felt like should not delay this video too much. :)
    You can download the das Klub Kalender here:
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    Synapsis - Universal Mind & The Path
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 85

  • @BrioniFaith
    @BrioniFaith 6 років тому +23

    ♡ Thank you speaking up, and clarifying a few things. The community lives on through us... Das Klub has given us a lot, and for that I am deeply grateful. I wouldn't know you without it! ♡ The community can still be as strong as it ever was as long as we continue to share it and keep it going. It seems that a lot of the US is only waking up to what it's all about now... :)))
    The ending is what it was, and I can understand his frustrations. I understand yours as well. I will do my bit to keep the community going through dance video projects and so on. Thank you for all that you bring to the community as well Ciwana ♡ xx

    • @juarezlino46
      @juarezlino46 6 років тому

      Brioni Faith cutie pie

    • @deathwizxx
      @deathwizxx 6 років тому +1

      we are so cripplingly behind over here in the us, its almost impossible to find a community near me it feels like :(

    • @ntomnia585
      @ntomnia585 5 років тому

      I recently stumbled into this type of entertainment and dance. I love your videos, Brioni, as well as Ciwana.

    • @Krystallen
      @Krystallen 5 років тому

      @Brioni Faith
      My Godess of Cleopatra reborn
      ....Please show the world on what level Ciwana Black really belongs in......
      Das Klub made tons of good stuff.....but the community doesnt just go away just because a leader steps down.
      ......Ciwana is one of those rare people who just "got it".
      I'd love to see her more in your fantastic videos!
      --Your Devoted Swedish Goth.

  • @n.k.5783
    @n.k.5783 3 роки тому +2

    I was a part of the scene a few years ago, but I never really felt welcome and never made any friends there. Still sad to hear it, even after so many years. I remember Das Klub, too, and it was a sad moment to see it closing.

  • @Arielapetraglia
    @Arielapetraglia 6 років тому +21

    I was pretty upset about it... Everyday, our scene is dying a little bit... Our favorite clubs close, the parties disappear, the shops closes, the designers stop designing, the communities dies...
    That is very sad! I really wish I could help making it get stronger and united again.
    And thanks for the video Ciwana!

    • @spacecalander
      @spacecalander 6 років тому +3

      That is what i notice too, clubs close everything is mainstream now. very sad.

    • @user-el3wf8np2l
      @user-el3wf8np2l 6 років тому +4

      it is strange that the community is dying because all the cyber both dance videos on UA-cam are getting millions of views. so much more attention then they used to. you'd think the community is actually growing.

    • @CiwanaBlack
      @CiwanaBlack  6 років тому +4

      I am not sure what is or will happening. But I hope it´s only a change of generation and Industrial Dancing is heading to a new high in a few years.

    • @richardjones7984
      @richardjones7984 6 років тому +4

      Arielapetraglia it makes me sad too. People are losing their individuality in our culture as conformity turns us all into mindless robots.

    • @gengaraproved8435
      @gengaraproved8435 6 років тому

      It is kind of a coincident that a great local alternative club just has to close to down too. I am talking about Vereniging de Vinger.

  • @HalfOgre0520
    @HalfOgre0520 6 років тому +4

    Yes, you were the way I found out about Das Klub. You were the face, and such a nice face! :-) I am sad about it, but the calendars were top notch and it's a shame. Thankfully you're still around. Love ya and keep dancing!

  • @JavaxChaos
    @JavaxChaos 6 років тому +9

    This is typical for this scene....
    I understand his decision and have deep respect for his dedication but I don't like how he ended it, imho it is just unfair and dsirespectful for everyone who also tried to support this project.
    I guess I will do another video on this, I have been one of the most active forum users with over 300 posts and felt like one of the core members of DasKlub in the last four-five years.
    Thanks for your thoughts on this, I share your opinion and view.
    Let's just give our best to keep this scene up and running

    • @xolotlmexihcah4671
      @xolotlmexihcah4671 6 років тому +1

      For years I enjoyed to come to their UA-cam channel and watch their videos, it's such a *BIG LET DOWN* for their supporters to do this nonsense.

    • @CiwanaBlack
      @CiwanaBlack  6 років тому

  • @mtheis8043
    @mtheis8043 6 років тому +3

    I am really sad seeing this, just getting into this scene. I've had thoughts if it is worth to still try getting into the scene, but listening to industrial every day driving to work just proves it is I guess. The end of dasklub proves Industrial dance is no business, but I hope it is still a passion.

  • @johnncastra-o
    @johnncastra-o 6 років тому +1

    You are young and smart, where one thing ends another begins.

  • @sayheytome
    @sayheytome 6 років тому +2

    Its not dead....it is going to mutate into something differant.

  • @zenalevay2541
    @zenalevay2541 5 років тому

    this is so sad, this was pretty much my childhood from when i was 13 i loved das klub and it meant alot to me to know there was someone else who liked the same music as me but it just died over the years (i made an account on das klub when i was 13 but the admin eventually deleted it saying i was too young) now theres no one who shares my interests and industrial music always has and continues 4 years later to still make me happy. Wish i never found out it got deleted :'(

  • @alanwolff157
    @alanwolff157 6 років тому +1

    CIWANA BLACK 😍 Eres la mejor y simplemente yo sé que en el futuro serás más grande de lo que ya eres actualmente, en mi país (México) eres tan famosa , simplemente no puedo evitar seguirte y vivir con la esperanza de verle algún día jejeje creo que me desmayo 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍❤❤❤❤❤😍please come to México

  • @thefurrygamer1489
    @thefurrygamer1489 3 роки тому +1

    Who's in 2021 still missing Das Klub?

  • @MoonDevi963
    @MoonDevi963 6 років тому +1

    Sorry to hear that, I wish you all the best in the future

  • @tobecomezero
    @tobecomezero 6 років тому

    Thanks for the video. Please keep doing what you're doing. Hope to see you at WGT 2018!

  • @richardjones7984
    @richardjones7984 6 років тому +2

    Das Club made some great videos and so thanks for the memories

  • @captainblind3690
    @captainblind3690 6 років тому

    Sorry to hear about that

  • @zyim1m253
    @zyim1m253 6 років тому

    so sorry to hear ..

  • @dominikbundy8008
    @dominikbundy8008 6 років тому

    Hallo Ciwana ich kenn mich zwar nicht so gut aus in der Szene aber verfolge dich auch schon einige zeit nicht nur weil du EXXTREEEM Fesch also hübsch bist und ich dass gar nicht schöön finde wenn du so Traurig bist...!!!!
    Ich hoffe es geht dir bald wieder besser und ich sehe dich sobaldestmöglich wieder ausgeglichen und FRÖHLICH und LACHEN wie Immer...!!!!
    Frohe Festtage und einen guten Rutsch ins Neue Jahr.....!!!!!!!!!!

  • @christianityrules4192
    @christianityrules4192 5 років тому

    The fact that this happened not long ago, on the other hand, just started industrial dancing for like 2 months makes me really sad, i dont wish to see the whole cyber goth scene die

    • @CiwanaBlack
      @CiwanaBlack  5 років тому +1

      We don´t want it to die either. And we have some pretty cool new bands coming along. =) I think we will keep it alive and maybe make it better then before.

  • @xFlizzenx
    @xFlizzenx 5 років тому +1

    :( kniiiik so sad where can I find next websites like das klub ?

  • @mrsabre666
    @mrsabre666 6 років тому

    i weep from hearing this, it was what got me into the music scene from this side

    • @CiwanaBlack
      @CiwanaBlack  6 років тому

      I hope we can keep our scene active despite the end of das klub. :)

  • @Atlas_UK
    @Atlas_UK 6 років тому

    Thanks for the update Ciwana.. It's a sorry loss for the European Industrial Community and I have seen this happen before with other pages.. Thankfully places like Vampire Freaks still knock around despite not been overly active with Europeans but still supports the Community as a whole and I'm sure we will endure for many years to come much like the Goth community. much loves to all that are part of the community and see you all around some day.

    • @CiwanaBlack
      @CiwanaBlack  6 років тому +1

      Thank you! :) well i think with facebook etc beeing around it has become really deficult for small website/communities.

    • @Atlas_UK
      @Atlas_UK 6 років тому

      That is sadly true, Facebook was the death of MySpace and vampire freaks has survived purely because it aimed at ppl of alternative lifestyles.
      Hopefully the legacy of Das Klub will live on through these communities 🤘

  • @starrywisdom8993
    @starrywisdom8993 6 років тому

    So sad. Still we just have to deal with it and move on.😞

  • @EsotericOccultist
    @EsotericOccultist 6 років тому

    As long as we still have you it's okay

    • @CiwanaBlack
      @CiwanaBlack  6 років тому +1

      🖤🖤🖤 And I don´t plan to go

  • @ivoo87
    @ivoo87 6 років тому +1

    wirklich schade :(

  • @gerededasein1182
    @gerededasein1182 6 років тому

    Schade! Aber Danke für die Infos.

    • @CiwanaBlack
      @CiwanaBlack  6 років тому +1

      Danke dir für den Link zum Archive. :)

  • @Skiamakhos
    @Skiamakhos 6 років тому +1

    I'm sad that your club thing has ended - but it really doesn't reflect badly on you. You did a great job as the face of it. You're the only reason I even know about it at all, so you obviously did your job well. You were not to know that it was going to disappear. I can sympathise - we've lost so many clubs & places where goths & rivetheads used to meet. It's rotten when you sink so much effort into a thing & it still ends up folding.

    • @CiwanaBlack
      @CiwanaBlack  6 років тому

      True. I also feel really sorry for the Admin to have to say goodbye to such a big project after so long time.

  • @jamesbartle9617
    @jamesbartle9617 6 років тому

    Just wondering has the admin/guy running das klub thought about opening up shares to the people to help raise money to keep das klun going? Only way I know of das klub is from you ciwana and it sounds like a good place you spoke about in your vlogs

    • @CiwanaBlack
      @CiwanaBlack  6 років тому

      I think he tried a lot of things, but sometimes too late. :(

  • @freddy0805
    @freddy0805 6 років тому

    What's the name of the Song at 9:36?

  • @Necromatrix
    @Necromatrix 6 років тому +3

    Damn. I know Admin had voiced frustration even a few years ago. It's the finacial/mental strain of running and keeping the site going that was not self sustaining. Guess he finally gave it up. Wish it could have fared better.

    • @xolotlmexihcah4671
      @xolotlmexihcah4671 6 років тому

      ok, but that stills doesn't explains why they take down all FREE social media sites and MUSIC VIDEOS here in UA-cam...

    • @Necromatrix
      @Necromatrix 6 років тому

      I'm not sure what that has to do with Das Club... Social media sites usually fail for basically the same reason Das Club is closed. As for music on UA-cam... Probably copyright issues.

    • @xolotlmexihcah4671
      @xolotlmexihcah4671 6 років тому

      If copyright were the issue on their UA-cam channel, then they would had taken only the videos were the copyright was claimed. They take down all their uploaded videos, that was unnecessary, what was their goal by doing that?

    • @Necromatrix
      @Necromatrix 6 років тому

      Oh, you mean the Das Club UA-cam? Well, I can only speculate on that, but I'd imagine it was just a "sweep and clear", so to speak. Imagine you had a project, spent years on it, your own money and after all you tried it never took off... He might have just wanted all traces of it gone. It sucks, but you have to see where he is coming from.

  • @spacecalander
    @spacecalander 6 років тому

    I hope this is not the end of industrial dancing, seemed like there were allot more dancers back in 2011 especially on the das Klub site. Very sad, met some great people there. I came to the site because it was a place where you could be yourself.

    • @CiwanaBlack
      @CiwanaBlack  6 років тому

      I don´t think its the end. I hope it´s only a temporary down of ID.

  • @david41686
    @david41686 6 років тому

    Please keep Das Club going!!!I think im to late.

  • @cifer1990
    @cifer1990 6 років тому +1

    ja schade ,...

  • @Krystallen
    @Krystallen 5 років тому +1

    Ciwana Black, you do know that you are one of the world best Industrial dancers?
    Brioni Faith has been producing AMAZING Industrial-Techno, which is THE best Industrial videos, in the world.
    There is a reason why Brioni wants you in them ;)

    • @CiwanaBlack
      @CiwanaBlack  5 років тому +1

      Thank you very much!!! :3 And: I really love the work from Brioni. Always happy to work with her together.

  • @cerberuscerberus2224
    @cerberuscerberus2224 3 роки тому +1

    Das klub forever!

  • @destructivecriticism5842
    @destructivecriticism5842 6 років тому

    Sorry to hear Das Klub is gone, I know you're upset about it. This just means you can maybe set something else up, something better with a web person who's interests are more-aligned with your own! Good luck and I enjoy your channel 😋

  • @horaciorcastillo9848
    @horaciorcastillo9848 6 років тому

    very sad new, but ypu are my goddess dancer !

  • @se.ku.8721
    @se.ku.8721 6 років тому

    das ist so schade. 😞

  • @jamesbartle9617
    @jamesbartle9617 6 років тому

    Heck I'd say open up das klub for people to buy shares In das klub for the public who are in industrial dance and industrial

  • @DarknessWillRise666
    @DarknessWillRise666 6 років тому

    Man I'm new to the industrial dancing I it saddens me to find out he's shutting down everything man what a sad day it is

    • @CiwanaBlack
      @CiwanaBlack  6 років тому +1

      Well, I will continue to dance :) And I think that better times for Industrial Dancing will come again:)

    • @DarknessWillRise666
      @DarknessWillRise666 6 років тому

      I agree as new people such as myself who stumble upon this style of dancing I think it will come back again. I can't wait to see a new video from you. Thank you for everything you've done and I will continue to watch all your videos

  • @franchellevanheerden
    @franchellevanheerden 9 місяців тому

    I am 5 years late.... But now i am sad. Germans do the Industrial scene much better than anyone else. I will visit (Europe / Germany ) one day hopefully and meet you wonderful people. viel Glück.

  • @true_jedimeister
    @true_jedimeister 6 років тому

    Es ist leider typisch für diese und andere Szenen. Ich betreibe selber ein größeres Projekt seit 13 Jahren. Es gab viele tolle Momente aber auch viel Arbeit und Ärger. Unberechtigte Anzeigen, Leute die Forderungen an einen kostenlosen Dienst stellen bis hin zu Morddrohungen gegen mich und meine Familie. Es nimmt immer mehr zu und auch ich werde irgendwann einfach "Nein" sagen. Über die Art der Schließung kann man diskutieren aber trotzdem 110% Verständnis.

  • @cerberuscerberus2224
    @cerberuscerberus2224 4 роки тому

    ( I

  • @cerberuscerberus2224
    @cerberuscerberus2224 4 роки тому

    Dad klub live...has...

  • @alphanerealitygenerator4045
    @alphanerealitygenerator4045 5 років тому

    :'(

  • @FPSAnarchy
    @FPSAnarchy 6 років тому +1

    D:

  • @gerededasein1182
    @gerededasein1182 6 років тому

    For a peek into what Das Klub was, people can look at the cache in The Internet Archive:
    web.archive.org/web/20171016100102/dasklub.com/
    Here's a sample Das Klub video page:
    web.archive.org/web/20160319170845/dasklub.com/video
    the links don't quite work, but since they ultimately embed UA-cam videos, if someone sees a thumbnail that looks interesting, they can copy the final 11 letters in the there-linked URL and re-paste them into the end of a UA-cam video URL, and voila!

  • @thefurrygamer1489
    @thefurrygamer1489 6 років тому

    Thankfully I am trying to do what I can to help keep the community together. I retooled a cyber goth group on Facebook in hopes of keeping the community together. If ya wish to join, it's Cyber Industrial Hub.

    • @CiwanaBlack
      @CiwanaBlack  6 років тому +1

      Thank you! Well we will see how things go.

  • @juarezlino46
    @juarezlino46 6 років тому

    Chiquita me encantas Ciwana ❤💘

  • @juarezlino46
    @juarezlino46 6 років тому

    Keep dancing please please more dancing..it helps with my depression. :)

  • @juarezlino46
    @juarezlino46 6 років тому

    Sorry the calendar never printed. It looks pretty awesome thou. I printed out for my self. Hugs :(

  • @metrotek5
    @metrotek5 6 років тому

    :'(