Mark Sebesta There is a Hypothesis floating around that states what we know as Mercury today is just the remnant core of a once mighty gas-giant. I don't know how much stock should be placed behind said hypothesis. but that's what I was referring to. It seemed fitting to mention it given the topic of this video.
42ndLife The theory is based on a common trend amongst other younger stars, where they tend to have a gas giant in a close orbit, and eventually the Star begins to consume it, leaving behind the denser materials.
Well this is some wonderful simulation software however, Jupiter may not have always occupied the same position it has in the orbital plane and this factor should be taken into account in any simulation of hypithetical origin narrative.
Well... there's various theories about the movement of the planets One is that Neptune was a lot closer to the Sol that it is today. But when Jupiter and Saturn har their firs gravitational ressonance it created a gravitional field that booted both Uranus and Neptune far back in the Sol System
I think this is a big leap, considering that this theory is based solely on a software program. I thought the concept was going to be based on some sort of empirical data from orbiting probs.
How do you obtain empirical data from billions of years in the past though? You can't, this is all purely hypothetical but possible. Jupiter had to start as something in order to attain the mass it has now and this explanation is as good as any I guess.
+ Death By Design Graphics We have gained a significant amount of insight through the science of archeology, which does span many millions of years. Example: there is some agreement that Mars once had flowing water, due the archeological evidence left behind on the surface. There is some evidence that the rings of Saturn were once moons orbiting too close to the planet. (Roche Limit) The software is impressive. I just thought there was some other evidence, which had been geologically observed, that would support the possibility of Jupiter being a terrestrial planet.
Hey in Dragon Ball Z there's a terrestrial planet called Vegeta that has 10x the mass of Earth and a red sky(and it is habitable and has oxygen). Can you do a simulation on if that kind of planet is possible?
Its pretty simple. Water. Big. If you are having a hard time imagining that then i dont know how you survived long enough to learn to communicate and ponder your own existence.
OmegaWolf747 can you see how ANY planet could turn into earth? Noone can. But we can wrap our heads around the fact that it happened. "Wrapping yoyr head around it" can be described as accepting something, you dont have to understand something to accept it. Just look at religeon. Not trying to be rude, im just saying.... you can.
OmegaWolf747 I can't either but plus it's their own prediction of what they think it was. I don't think it was. I don't think they even know yet if Jupiter actually has a surface.
@Rick: It's a conspiracy theory. It might even be technically possible, granted; but, it has no basis in fact! It's all conjecture & speculation, inevitably, based around selling a book or a series of books, a franchise, and/or pushing a website. Basically, it's FAKE. FAKE science is a lot like FAKE news; it could be real, sure! Which is to say that it `could be possible`, yea, in that it is 'not outside the realm of extreme possibility'! Yet, what that really means is that it is not impossible; but, since the likelihood of that 'near impossibility' being a real possibility, being something that is within reach of probable & likely, is so unlikely that, even though it is 'not outside the realm of extreme possibility', it is still not possible! It. Is. FAKE.
yeah, Jupiter just suddenly was a gas giant one day.. probably on a Monday too, traffic was heavy, planet flu was going around then suddenly BOOMPF, Jupiter appears. Crazy stuff
When Jupiter formed and gained mass quickly I think it was too hot, due to inner temperature of the young core and due to constantly hitting asteroids, that liquid water could exists. Maybe Jupiter was a water vapor world for some time. But I heard that Jupiter gained mass very very quickly and the terestrial planets took far more time to form. So I guess there was not so much time that jupiter could cool up that quickly so that liquid water existed.
TJ CORE, that's a good point. Once Jupiter is covered with a thick atmosphere it would be difficult to radiate away heat, so the core should get hotter and hotter. The outer layers of atmosphere would be cooler, but they're the most recent additions to the planet and wouldn't have as much time to evolve life.
The software used is called Universe Sandbox for those who want to know. It is an incredible piece of software that allows one to use all sorts of parameters like deleting the Sun which sends all our Planets off on a line without the Suns gravity.
Hi Anton, great video and animation showing the model, I think you've explained it pretty well. I do have a question for you though regarding large Planets forming in accretion discs. How does Jupiter maintain its velocity whilst moving through and accumulating the thick dust, gasses, ice, asteroids and proto-planets during its long formation? It's a great story being told, but the models I've seen of planets forming in this way all have the a gradual (but ultimately massive) loss of velocity coursed by drag (friction) as move through the disc, they don't normally get past 100 orbits before start a death spiral into the Sun. by the way thanks for putting the link for the program using I'm definitely going to check it out.
...you realise the accretion disk is also in orbit, yes? And the impact of dust upon a planet weighing 150,000,000,000,000,000kg isn't very much at all, if any? And that such impacts are mitigated by the nature of pseudo angular moment of orbital mechanics?
@@danielweinzapfel2895 Most of the exoplanets that we've found orbiting other stars are gas giants, and they orbit close to their stars, in the so-called "Goldilocks Zone" where terrestrial planets would have to orbit in order to be habitable; therefore the reverse is more likely. Planets begin as gas giants, and for some reason the atmosphere is stripped from them, leaving only the core, and they become terrestrial planets. Personally, I suspect terrestrial planets begin as moons of gas giants that were for some reason cast out of their orbits.
@@prasunkumar117 We don't even know what the core of jupiter is, so why would you think a computer model that doesnt even have the complete information about the CURRENT composition could make accurate predictions about rhe PAST composition? To do 2A = 3b +1a you need a constant for either a OR b .
That's debate. What you have been told is truth, is what? Opinion, interpretation, assumption, conjecture, educated guesses, just damned lies, hypothesis, theories, are not truths. Geez, fellas, look up the definitions of - science, theory, hypothesis, fact, and truth in a Merriam-Webster's Dictionary.
What site are you using with the planets it's so cool that you can get all in depth! Please give me the website you're using here! By the way awesome video very cool!
Love ur videos. Awesome thing to think about and imagine what it would be like to set foot or boat or however on the early worlds. Thanks for the video.
Jupiter should have Solid Ground under that gas atmosphere. Jupiter's been our biggest vacuum of the solar system. Swallowing asteroids, moons possibly planets. It's hard to imagine that there isn't a solid surface.
That’s a hypothesis. We truly have no idea what is at its core. Pure conjecture. Mainstream science has led us wrong so many times. This world has grown. It was smaller when the dinosaurs roamed it. Gravity would crush their organs today. So if this earth grew, and the atmosphere grows, why wouldn’t it become a gas giant eventually?? Anton could be right on.
So as I follow the liquid metalic hydrogen core of Jupiter was once the terrestrial world, but as it accumulated rock material early on, hydrogen and helium gasses etc, floating around the protosun, it gained mass and the atmosphere thickened expoentially and became a gas giant? It's a very good theory for how gas giants form. Thanks for the great video Anton! M
Clarence John Alfonso liquid metalitc hydrogen would be the exotic state of matter the core finds itself in today. In the far past however, before all that heat, gas, and pressure accumulated on Jupiter, it would have been the same as any terrestrial world, probably made of iron. As an object like Jupiter gained mass and became a gas giant, it also altered the chemistry of the planet. Hope that clarifies it a bit.
technologic21 no i mean how can a planet with metallic hydrogen be a terrestial planet? Its not water where it can support life, its metallic. It may be a dumb question. Appreciate your help
Clarence John Alfonso liquid metalic hydrogen is an exotic state of matter that is only achieved via the great heat and pressues of a gas giant. It hasnt been replicated in a laboratory on earth, so it's properties are not fully understood. It's theorized that it behaves like a superfluid, and is conductive. An ocean of this stuff covers Jupiter's core, beneath it might be rocky, molten iron but nobody knows for sure the internal structure of gas giants yet, thats what this new theory aims at.
That would mean the sun was once a water world but changed into the sun. That also would mean every planet has potential to be a water world. Which means life is everywhere
How many things can you orbit around something that in turn has something orbiting around it? For example, have a baseball orbiting around a asteroid orbiting around a moon orbiting around earth orbiting around Jupiter etc. is there a limit to the amount of things you can orbit around each other? in mathematical terms, if n is an object and n+1 is the object n is orbiting around and n + 2 is the object n + 1 is orbiting around... does this n have a limit. Who knows... maybe there might be some physics anomaly that will happen. I hope you understand my question xD. I love your videos Anton! Math is awesome! :)
Zachary Vasey the way you explained it in your first sentence is wrong, youre basicly asking how many moons can orbit one object. Attempting algebra though, that was a bold step too far.
His question isn't merely how many moons can orbit one object. Obviously you can have many moons orbiting one object where none of the moons are also orbiting one of the other moons.
Unless they are magnetic, pebbles don't clump together in space. That's why Saturn still has its rings. Solar wind does not allow an atmosphere to grow but only to dissipate. One assumption times another assumption = illogical and hence not science but something else.
Collin Clarke Remember: every object has gravity, the bigger pebble attracts smaller pebbles until it runs out of pebbles within it’s sphere of influence to attract.
There are no observations that would confirm that pebbles clump together. All we can see in space is further pulverization (e.g. in the rings of Saturn), not clumping. For clumping to occur there has to be an initial object bigger than the critical size for this process to start happening. The critical size is estimated to be around 1 metre. However, clumping can occur with smaller particles than that, such as dust. This is then an electrical process, not gravitational.
It sounds very interesting. It makes me wonder if the change to gas giant is so gradual if it might be possible to one day find life in the sky of a gas giant
Carl Sagan postulated a kind of jellyfish-like sacs of helium or hydrogen floating in the upper atmosphere. You may be able to find an artist's rendering on the Net. It's really beautiful.
@@davidm5707 I heard that theory before in history the science teacher dedicated one day a week to watching Carl Sagans work but this just seems to make it so much more possible
@@davidm5707 I run Sci Fi RPG games so I love pulling things out of science to bring some reality to it. Right now they are on Pluto in the Proserpine station which has a space elevator that runs from Space station to surface shipyard but most the the colony is under the Ice Mantel to need less life support and better defenses from metro strikes. One of their man export is both Earth fish and Pluto Ocean life which is mainly luxury pets do to the little nutarian humans can prosses from it.
CalvinWinz you realize he was only stating that no one who was commenting was a scientist that includes himself so your snarky comment means literally nothing and you’re just being a sarcastic ass with an inflated opinion about yourself
Zack Price I know you are not asking me, but I can explain my doubts: the presentation presents these two phrases rather often: “if we change the parameters” and “something amazing is happening here”. But there is no explanations on why the parameters are being changed or precisely why the “amazing thing” is happening. I could be wrong, but in a scientific model, I am under the presumption you enter the known parameters and then observe to see if the model behaves in accordance to the theory. If it doesn’t, either the theory does not work or perhaps an unknown event occurred to change the parameters and you experiment to see what could have altered the model’s progress. If it cannot be determined why the change in progress occurred, then you do not explain it with “something amazing happened here”-the theory is at this time not a valid one. I say it that way because a circumstance or event could come to light in the future that was not factored into the original theory and model. Then you test to see if the new information supports the theory.
I would be interested to see if there were evidence of the gravitational effects on the orbits of surrounding bodies as a result of Jupiter forming around a terrestrial core and slowly accruing gas, as opposed to having all the gas begin to coalesce as soon as the solar system started forming.
I love your educational vids, but I would also love if you did more random things like smashing things together or crashing everything into the sun once in a while :)
In a galactic scale that’s extremely fast it’s only because a human life is short that it seems like it so slow even though it isn’t what was the point of saying that in a comment
@@disrespecc9678 you spelled dummy...dumby! Lol. And as for the terrestrial question...yeah i know what it means asshole. And scientists saying this are merely speculating...they have no concrete evidence.
Jupiter was actually supposed to be a second sun but our sun was so massive compared to it that everything it need to make it a sun got absorbed by our sun which made it a dead star. Jupiter never had a surface. This information was from the history channel.
@@robertcollier5529 _"well you tell the scientist that stated what I wrote that."_ Which scientist would that be? I want names, because it is complete bullshit!
dXb do a simple Google search on Jupiter being a failed star, or a failed brown dwarf, the hypothesis has been around for some time. It doesn’t say that Jupiter has enough mass needed for nuclear fusion, which is obvious. It states that our solar system is one of the odd balls in the Milky Way, having not a single star. Many scientists believe that Jupiter was on it’s way to being our second sun, but ran out of material to consume, for whatever reason. Jupiter has almost the exact make up as our Sun, but not anywhere near the mass.
My friend, a brilliant scientist and chemist, shared with me years ago that planets ‘grew’. He called it Progression of Planets. Jupiter is about to ignite, becoming a small star. Our worlds atmosphere will continue to grow until we become a gas planet. From small moon to star, progression. Even our moon has an atmosphere that’s growing. Our solar system shows all of the stages of a planet. Neat hypothesis. I think it holds great merit.
Well atmospheres don't grow indefinitely. Especially because of the sun as its strong radiation causes atmospheres to "shed" off. If a planet doesn't have a strong magnetosphere it's not gonna happen.
Alan Silva ...because he click-baited us into coming here. There is no basis for this science. I'm not going to call it fake, because I think he really believes this may have been true. But we are all correct in questioning this.
Frank Winkhorst Finally a person I can agree with. But going alongside with the theory, aquatic life could had happen. But really, slim. Going alongside with what we think of Jupiter, we would had a binary star system
I had a friend who was one of those people who were just so intelligent everyone hated him. He skipped 2 grades and graduated in 10 years. He wanted to go into science and tried Paleontology. He dropped the major after three weeks because he said Its 2% science and 98% imagination. He tried several other disciplines but kept dropping them because of his frustration with how much in 'science' is just what someone 'thinks' based on a model created from again 2% science and 98% imagination. He finally wound up doing genetics research. But he said what he learned from all of that was to take 'science' with a grain of salt and that the only real science based on facts is mathematics which doesnt have an imagination.
V28 VLOGS and where is your scientific research to disprove this or are you just assuming because you’re not a scientist that it’s just not possible how much do you know about planets and space and astronomy and physics probably not enough to actually be able to scientifically say that this is a stupid hypothesis you only use your limited capacity to create an opinion based on what other people say and have probably not done any of the actual scientific research needed to disprove such a theory you are after all only a human who can’t comprehend things being greater than yourself
Yeah, seems like we're talking a (geologically) brief window during the heavy bombardment phase. With all of that material coming in, I don't think it could ever have been considered "habitable" or "terrestrial" in anything but the broadest of terms.
@@Tolbat anton is a astronomer in south korea. He presents all ideas that he finds, both the substantiated ones and the less substantiated ones. That's how science works. Test stuff, throw alot of ideas, discard many until you find the best answer.
Lovin your shows Anton, makes you think about whats really going on. Some very interesting points you make about planets evolving, they metamorphosis into mind bending configarations. With all due respect I think your Data is back the front when it comes to acretion. Rocks and pebbles are more likely to bounce off each other than to acrete into something with any great gravitational potential. A star however would gratationally attract stuff from all around. Acretion happens in the star. It grabs all available matter and turns it into plasma, then violently spits it into its cromosphere where it electochemically mixes with other plasmas and smashes it back into its surface for even more mixing. Stars continually lose mass and heat in the process. Some to radiation, some as heat, some as light, some to Coronal Mass Ejections. A never ending mixing of plasma chemically giving off mass and energy. Our star would then resembles a ‘red dwarf’. More loss and the star would resemble Jupiter with its red spot (which is probable an Iron composite that will eventually settle toward the core). More electrochemical mixing-more loss of mass and energy and Jupiter will resemble Neptune having created its own water in the mixing process. More time goes by, more mixing, more mass and heat loss and our Jupiter will resemble Uranus with its greener tinge, a sign that these continuous electrochemical reactions are forming photo synthesis abalities in its atmosphere. More Time- more mass loss and our former star looks like Earth. Especially if its gravotationally attracted close enough to a young star that can provide it with enough life giving energy, and life begins. Makes lots more sense starting as a star and losing mass than your portrayal of a planet being able to grow from smaller than earth to Jupiter size. Currently studying Stellar Metamorphosis here on youtube. Great visuals Anton, keep em comin’.
Do you think the "great spot" you created was the place you fired all those asteroids into? Like maybe the great red spot is a giant depression where the dust kicked up from when it was terrestrial is just stuck in the giant depression, swirling around like the way it does in a desert canyon? Like maybe it's red because it's a bunch of the actual dirt from Jupiter's crust and from the asteroids. That's pretty cool you created one unintentionally.
That is an interesting theory to think that Jupiter may have once been a habitable planet! I can't wrap my mind around a planet that is full of gas could have been filled with water and teeming with life. Now, I'm curious to read more about this. I'll have to take a look at more videos on your channel, but I was wondering have you made any videos about Saturn's moon Titan? I read an article years ago that referred to Titan as Earth's sister planet because Titan had wind, rain, volcanoes and tectonics. I always find it fascinating to hear that some planets may be similar to Earth, even if the time they were similar to Earth was a long time ago.
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Jupiter core is metallic hydrogen, not rock, and its a gas giant not a water-world.
I drank every time you said "basically"
The ancient solar system, when Mercury was a gass giant and Jupiter was a water world.
Mark Sebesta There is a Hypothesis floating around that states what we know as Mercury today is just the remnant core of a once mighty gas-giant. I don't know how much stock should be placed behind said hypothesis. but that's what I was referring to. It seemed fitting to mention it given the topic of this video.
+Mark Sebesta Do you care to clarify? Your last comment was illegible.
+Mark Sabesta Happy New Year, now get some rest, you're not thinking straight.
42ndLife
The theory is based on a common trend amongst other younger stars, where they tend to have a gas giant in a close orbit, and eventually the Star begins to consume it, leaving behind the denser materials.
42ndLife yeah
Imagine what life would’ve been like on a giant water world
Would have been wet
Sea aliens....
@@generaljeneral7503 no shit
Subnautica but without the Precursors
@@huh2726 exactly
Well this is some wonderful simulation software however, Jupiter may not have always occupied the same position it has in the orbital plane and this factor should be taken into account in any simulation of hypithetical origin narrative.
Well... there's various theories about the movement of the planets One is that Neptune was a lot closer to the Sol that it is today. But when Jupiter and Saturn har their firs gravitational ressonance it created a gravitional field that booted both Uranus and Neptune far back in the Sol System
I was thinking the same thing .
I think this is a big leap, considering that this theory is based solely on a software program. I thought the concept was going to be based on some sort of empirical data from orbiting probs.
Panther15 ZodiacGods well it's just fun to theorize . plus there's still so much more we don't know of
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How do you obtain empirical data from billions of years in the past though? You can't, this is all purely hypothetical but possible. Jupiter had to start as something in order to attain the mass it has now and this explanation is as good as any I guess.
+ Death By Design Graphics We have gained a significant amount of insight through the science of archeology, which does span many millions of years. Example: there is some agreement that Mars once had flowing water, due the archeological evidence left behind on the surface. There is some evidence that the rings of Saturn were once moons orbiting too close to the planet. (Roche Limit) The software is impressive. I just thought there was some other evidence, which had been geologically observed, that would support the possibility of Jupiter being a terrestrial planet.
That is not a theory, it's a hypothesis.
Hey in Dragon Ball Z there's a terrestrial planet called Vegeta that has 10x the mass of Earth and a red sky(and it is habitable and has oxygen). Can you do a simulation on if that kind of planet is possible?
JollyGoodFellow. Dude that would be interesting
Red sky would indicate that most of it is hydrogen.
If it also has oxygen, the atmosphere should just ignite from meteorites or lightning.
It kind of eventually did. Just not for those reasons.
ah yes, Vegeta, where a cup of coffee weighs 9 pounds!
Also the gravity is a lot stronger which is why the inhabitants (saiyans) are a lot stronger than humans.
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I actually wanted to see the inside of the Planet when it was habitable
Probably too much unknowns to make a reasonable model. That's my guess.
Jupiter as a water world. I just can't wrap my brain around that.
Its pretty simple. Water. Big. If you are having a hard time imagining that then i dont know how you survived long enough to learn to communicate and ponder your own existence.
I just don't see how a water planet can turn into a gas planet.
OmegaWolf747 can you see how ANY planet could turn into earth? Noone can. But we can wrap our heads around the fact that it happened. "Wrapping yoyr head around it" can be described as accepting something, you dont have to understand something to accept it. Just look at religeon. Not trying to be rude, im just saying.... you can.
OmegaWolf747 I can't either but plus it's their own prediction of what they think it was. I don't think it was. I don't think they even know yet if Jupiter actually has a surface.
@Rick: It's a conspiracy theory. It might even be technically possible, granted; but, it has no basis in fact! It's all conjecture & speculation, inevitably, based around selling a book or a series of books, a franchise, and/or pushing a website.
Basically, it's FAKE. FAKE science is a lot like FAKE news; it could be real, sure! Which is to say that it `could be possible`, yea, in that it is 'not outside the realm of extreme possibility'! Yet, what that really means is that it is not impossible; but, since the likelihood of that 'near impossibility' being a real possibility, being something that is within reach of probable & likely, is so unlikely that, even though it is 'not outside the realm of extreme possibility', it is still not possible!
It. Is. FAKE.
I like your videos, but I don’t buy this model.
RGB Reading me either.
yeah, Jupiter just suddenly was a gas giant one day.. probably on a Monday too, traffic was heavy, planet flu was going around then suddenly BOOMPF, Jupiter appears. Crazy stuff
When Jupiter formed and gained mass quickly I think it was too hot, due to inner temperature of the young core and due to constantly hitting asteroids, that liquid water could exists. Maybe Jupiter was a water vapor world for some time. But I heard that Jupiter gained mass very very quickly and the terestrial planets took far more time to form. So I guess there was not so much time that jupiter could cool up that quickly so that liquid water existed.
TJ CORE that’s the concept I have of Jupiter.
TJ CORE, that's a good point. Once Jupiter is covered with a thick atmosphere it would be difficult to radiate away heat, so the core should get hotter and hotter. The outer layers of atmosphere would be cooler, but they're the most recent additions to the planet and wouldn't have as much time to evolve life.
The software used is called Universe Sandbox for those who want to know. It is an incredible piece of software that allows one to use all sorts of parameters like deleting the Sun which sends all our Planets off on a line without the Suns gravity.
*source:* dude trust me, saw it in a simulation.
"Universe Sandbox said it's true so it must be"
Yea sounds like hogwash to me.
Roмeo † he said it was speculation
Is this guy really that ignorant?
bullshit ...you know it .. cmon.... collective mediocritans scamming for grant money?
I personally thought that Jupiter was a failed star.
Jupiter would need 50 times its mass to be a brown dwarf
I personally think it was a failed star too
Nah brown dwarfs are the real failed stars.
I used to read books that said that, we must have been exposed to the same thinkers.
@@chistinelane Exactly.
Where was Kevin Costner
wait
Jupiter past: terrestrial planet
Mars past: terrestrial planet
Earth past: big magma rock
Kakyoin Noriaki hmm
Venus past: terrestrial planet
Earth: "gonna pull what's called a *pro gamer* move"
It's neat how you can start out so small and insignificant, and then become a giant--if you are at the right place and the right time.
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Hi Anton, great video and animation showing the model, I think you've explained it pretty well. I do have a question for you though regarding large Planets forming in accretion discs. How does Jupiter maintain its velocity whilst moving through and accumulating the thick dust, gasses, ice, asteroids and proto-planets during its long formation? It's a great story being told, but the models I've seen of planets forming in this way all have the a gradual (but ultimately massive) loss of velocity coursed by drag (friction) as move through the disc, they don't normally get past 100 orbits before start a death spiral into the Sun. by the way thanks for putting the link for the program using I'm definitely going to check it out.
...you realise the accretion disk is also in orbit, yes? And the impact of dust upon a planet weighing 150,000,000,000,000,000kg isn't very much at all, if any? And that such impacts are mitigated by the nature of pseudo angular moment of orbital mechanics?
So would that mean that "Saturn" has a similar origin?
And maybe Uranus and Neptune?
@@danielweinzapfel2895 Most of the exoplanets that we've found orbiting other stars are gas giants, and they orbit close to their stars, in the so-called "Goldilocks Zone" where terrestrial planets would have to orbit in order to be habitable; therefore the reverse is more likely. Planets begin as gas giants, and for some reason the atmosphere is stripped from them, leaving only the core, and they become terrestrial planets. Personally, I suspect terrestrial planets begin as moons of gas giants that were for some reason cast out of their orbits.
"And, you get to be habitable origin, and you get to be, and you to, and.."
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Thank you!!!
Who watches these videos just for the self affirmation at the beginning when he says, "hello, wonderful person"
I'd appreciate it if you could cite your reference to the John Chambers article, available from a reputable source... I'd like to read it for myself.
One day earth will be a gas giant if we don’t stop eating them beans...🤪
U R an idiot dude, jokes aside you probably make great taco's though.
So Mexi-Can keep being an Assy gassy bro.
Duece Venue you think that was a serious statement?
That ain't serious to tell you
You're an embarrassment to the name Tai. People like me and you shouldn't have the same name.
Dirty Bird take a bath birdie...
Update:
Did Dirty Bird took a bath and became “Tai Babasolaf”? 😂
I discovered you a couple weeks ago and am just binging all your videos
Complete utter and totally unprovable speculation. A "model" can be set to produce whatever outcome is desired.
Totally agree....
Ok boomer
@@prasunkumar117 We don't even know what the core of jupiter is, so why would you think a computer model that doesnt even have the complete information about the CURRENT composition could make accurate predictions about rhe PAST composition?
To do 2A = 3b +1a you need a constant for either a OR b .
do you mean like the climat models
I couldn’t agree with you more but a way out and impossible theory
I remember that you used to do such simulation videos earlier in your early days on UA-cam !!!
Wowww this was a new piece of information. Nice. Keep up d work....
Welcome you tubers where you can say whatever you want weather it is true or not
Darren L Hull ah yes the weather may be true or not. Is it sunny? Hot? Or cold and raining? I do suppose the UA-camrs decide.
@@thecriminalrob3428 hahahahaha
That's debate. What you have been told is truth, is what?
Opinion, interpretation, assumption, conjecture, educated guesses, just damned lies, hypothesis, theories, are not truths. Geez, fellas, look up the definitions of - science, theory, hypothesis, fact, and truth in a Merriam-Webster's Dictionary.
Your channel is awesome mate
Hello wonderful Anton!
What site are you using with the planets it's so cool that you can get all in depth! Please give me the website you're using here! By the way awesome video very cool!
If your reading this have a great 2018
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It’s 2019 now :0
@@emilandreasson9670 It's 2021 now, and it's not great.
Love your vids man keep up the good work🙂
......but Uranus was always a gas giant.
Ice giant.
Please stop what your doing and walk into oncoming traffic
Uranus is big :))))))
*Ice Giant
M T Space uranus is a water planet without land just water so that's why we call them ice giants
Love ur videos. Awesome thing to think about and imagine what it would be like to set foot or boat or however on the early worlds. Thanks for the video.
Anton should give some more info about where he learns this new information.
Jupiter should have Solid Ground under that gas atmosphere. Jupiter's been our biggest vacuum of the solar system. Swallowing asteroids, moons possibly planets. It's hard to imagine that there isn't a solid surface.
Good luck on that Theory as Jupiter has a liquid metallic hydrogen core.
That’s a hypothesis. We truly have no idea what is at its core. Pure conjecture. Mainstream science has led us wrong so many times. This world has grown. It was smaller when the dinosaurs roamed it. Gravity would crush their organs today. So if this earth grew, and the atmosphere grows, why wouldn’t it become a gas giant eventually?? Anton could be right on.
Very Kewl Video. Enjoyed the walk thru on how it came to being. ty
So as I follow the liquid metalic hydrogen core of Jupiter was once the terrestrial world, but as it accumulated rock material early on, hydrogen and helium gasses etc, floating around the protosun, it gained mass and the atmosphere thickened expoentially and became a gas giant? It's a very good theory for how gas giants form.
Thanks for the great video Anton!
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Yes I would say so.
technologic21 how can a planet with liquid metallic hydrogen be a terrastial planet? Wtf?
Clarence John Alfonso liquid metalitc hydrogen would be the exotic state of matter the core finds itself in today. In the far past however, before all that heat, gas, and pressure accumulated on Jupiter, it would have been the same as any terrestrial world, probably made of iron. As an object like Jupiter gained mass and became a gas giant, it also altered the chemistry of the planet.
Hope that clarifies it a bit.
technologic21 no i mean how can a planet with metallic hydrogen be a terrestial planet? Its not water where it can support life, its metallic. It may be a dumb question. Appreciate your help
Clarence John Alfonso liquid metalic hydrogen is an exotic state of matter that is only achieved via the great heat and pressues of a gas giant. It hasnt been replicated in a laboratory on earth, so it's properties are not fully understood. It's theorized that it behaves like a superfluid, and is conductive.
An ocean of this stuff covers Jupiter's core, beneath it might be rocky, molten iron but nobody knows for sure the internal structure of gas giants yet, thats what this new theory aims at.
That would mean the sun was once a water world but changed into the sun. That also would mean every planet has potential to be a water world. Which means life is everywhere
You can make anything do anything on a computer. That does not make the supposition correct.
No shit sherlock
Thanks! Very informative!
found this video exactly 1 year after release!
What you’re sharing is beautiful. We get to see Yoel’s dreams come true while witnessing how fortunate we are here.
How many things can you orbit around something that in turn has something orbiting around it? For example, have a baseball orbiting around a asteroid orbiting around a moon orbiting around earth orbiting around Jupiter etc. is there a limit to the amount of things you can orbit around each other? in mathematical terms, if n is an object and n+1 is the object n is orbiting around and n + 2 is the object n + 1 is orbiting around... does this n have a limit. Who knows... maybe there might be some physics anomaly that will happen. I hope you understand my question xD. I love your videos Anton! Math is awesome! :)
I guess that makes since!
Apparently a moon orbiting a moon is called a "diddy moon"
Zachary Vasey the way you explained it in your first sentence is wrong, youre basicly asking how many moons can orbit one object. Attempting algebra though, that was a bold step too far.
His question isn't merely how many moons can orbit one object. Obviously you can have many moons orbiting one object where none of the moons are also orbiting one of the other moons.
Yes, the total mass of the universe is the limit.
A very nice interesting speculative theory .. thumbs up!
"thousands, maybe millions of years..." -> for that timeline it would have to be billions, 3 at the very least.
Interesting video, loved the Blade Raver mod opening music :)
Unless they are magnetic, pebbles don't clump together in space. That's why Saturn still has its rings.
Solar wind does not allow an atmosphere to grow but only to dissipate.
One assumption times another assumption = illogical and hence not science but something else.
Collin Clarke
Remember: every object has gravity, the bigger pebble attracts smaller pebbles until it runs out of pebbles within it’s sphere of influence to attract.
There are no observations that would confirm that pebbles clump together. All we can see in space is further pulverization (e.g. in the rings of Saturn), not clumping. For clumping to occur there has to be an initial object bigger than the critical size for this process to start happening. The critical size is estimated to be around 1 metre. However, clumping can occur with smaller particles than that, such as dust. This is then an electrical process, not gravitational.
Collin Clarke ur wrong, most asteroids in space are space dust and not solid rocks.
Well, I've never been to one, so I can't really argue with you.:-))
Electrons and protons spin with 'gravity'? I kind of like the electrical model modified with gravity
It sounds very interesting. It makes me wonder if the change to gas giant is so gradual if it might be possible to one day find life in the sky of a gas giant
Carl Sagan postulated a kind of jellyfish-like sacs of helium or hydrogen floating in the upper atmosphere. You may be able to find an artist's rendering on the Net. It's really beautiful.
@@davidm5707 I heard that theory before in history the science teacher dedicated one day a week to watching Carl Sagans work but this just seems to make it so much more possible
@@davidm5707 I run Sci Fi RPG games so I love pulling things out of science to bring some reality to it. Right now they are on Pluto in the Proserpine station which has a space elevator that runs from Space station to surface shipyard but most the the colony is under the Ice Mantel to need less life support and better defenses from metro strikes. One of their man export is both Earth fish and Pluto Ocean life which is mainly luxury pets do to the little nutarian humans can prosses from it.
My friend you are not convincing at all
Sorry i dont buy it
But good video though for emtertainment
Samael51760 Thanks for your input, fellow scientist.
CalvinWinz you realize he was only stating that no one who was commenting was a scientist that includes himself so your snarky comment means literally nothing and you’re just being a sarcastic ass with an inflated opinion about yourself
T shirts with "What da math" on front would be cool.
Calling BS on this one.
Gamina Wulfsdottir okay so tell me your scientific reasoning why it’s bs
Its already 1 year but yet still no answer lmao
Gamina Wulfsdottir I concur. I think it would be more convincing if there was not the constant clicking on parameters,
Zack Price I know you are not asking me, but I can explain my doubts: the presentation presents these two phrases rather often: “if we change the parameters” and “something amazing is happening here”. But there is no explanations on why the parameters are being changed or precisely why the “amazing thing” is happening. I could be wrong, but in a scientific model, I am under the presumption you enter the known parameters and then observe to see if the model behaves in accordance to the theory. If it doesn’t, either the theory does not work or perhaps an unknown event occurred to change the parameters and you experiment to see what could have altered the model’s progress. If it cannot be determined why the change in progress occurred, then you do not explain it with “something amazing happened here”-the theory is at this time not a valid one. I say it that way because a circumstance or event could come to light in the future that was not factored into the original theory and model. Then you test to see if the new information supports the theory.
I would be interested to see if there were evidence of the gravitational effects on the orbits of surrounding bodies as a result of Jupiter forming around a terrestrial core and slowly accruing gas, as opposed to having all the gas begin to coalesce as soon as the solar system started forming.
I love your educational vids, but I would also love if you did more random things like smashing things together or crashing everything into the sun once in a while :)
“It starts transforming quite quickly only a few million years”
Hey wassupp
Compared to the earth, that's actually fast
In a galactic scale that’s extremely fast it’s only because a human life is short that it seems like it so slow even though it isn’t what was the point of saying that in a comment
Great video as always, Anton!
Fascinating video!
No,it was NOT a terrestrial planet!
Michael Kelligan do you even know what terrestrial means?
Also I was a terrestrial planet 2 billion years ago you dumby
@@disrespecc9678 you spelled dummy...dumby! Lol. And as for the terrestrial question...yeah i know what it means asshole. And scientists saying this are merely speculating...they have no concrete evidence.
So Jupiter was a water world outside the "habitable zone"? You lost me there and never got me back.
@Lain Ah. Usually it's described as an ice world, but ok.
Jupiter has never been in "The Habitable Zone". It has never supported life in the way that the Earth has. End of story.
There are a few theories with legit evidence that our gas giants did in fact start in the inner solar system.
Were you there to watch it happen?
Are you God and can verify that
@@josephperkins4080
Can you verify god? No! Logical fallacy I tell ya!
@@worldisdoomed9994 🤔🤔🤔🙄🙄🙄sigh have you ever heard of a statement being rhetorical???
I thoroughly enjoyed that, Anton!!!
Jupiter was actually supposed to be a second sun but our sun was so massive compared to it that everything it need to make it a sun got absorbed by our sun which made it a dead star. Jupiter never had a surface. This information was from the history channel.
Jupiter isn’t even close to the mass needed for nuclear fusion, it’s far less than 0.4 solar masses.
Jupiter could have several times its mass and it would still not even qualify for brown dwarf status, let alone become a star.
Z Zs well you tell the scientist that stated what I wrote that.
@@robertcollier5529 _"well you tell the scientist that stated what I wrote that."_
Which scientist would that be? I want names, because it is complete bullshit!
dXb do a simple Google search on Jupiter being a failed star, or a failed brown dwarf, the hypothesis has been around for some time. It doesn’t say that Jupiter has enough mass needed for nuclear fusion, which is obvious. It states that our solar system is one of the odd balls in the Milky Way, having not a single star. Many scientists believe that Jupiter was on it’s way to being our second sun, but ran out of material to consume, for whatever reason. Jupiter has almost the exact make up as our Sun, but not anywhere near the mass.
Thanks for feeding my brain you wonderful person.
First reaction: Huh?
Lol going back and hearing you here compared to now lolol im dying laughing haha. Now your a pro!
Today
is my birthday and I love planets and I am gonna become an astronaut
Becoming an astronaut is harder than you think.
Tell me, what do you think you need to become an astronaut?
Kid, your dreams won't come true :>
Plz leave me alone..thx :) and plz don't like your own comment
I was the one who liked his comment.
oscarthecupcake123 Hope you had a happy birthday. 🎂
I love you're videos 💜❤️
I had no idea that water vapour was a greenhouse gas!
And much much more potent than CO2 at that.
and methane
Water vapor is the sockdolager of greenhouse gases. Moist air doesn't cool as fast as dry air at night.
Plot twist, this is not the first for us as species, it’s actually our last chance after we f up the rest of the solar system
This doesn’t make much sense
Doesn't make any sense.
It makes complete sense if you actually listen to the scientific reasoning and understand it all
You can synthesize almost anything with that program. Jupiter is only 2.4 or so times the mass of earth by the way. (were you thinking volume?)
Can you please make a video about a new planet scientists found called Kepler 90-I
Planet d Dinosaur 36 he already made one
This is amazing. Thank you
So jupiter has a solid core?
Float Circuit
Yes, it does.
It hasn’t be definitively proven afaik, but gas giants seem to have a rocky core covered in an “ocean” of liquid metal hydrogen.
unlikely. the temperature and pressure wont probably like anything inside solid.
iceberg789 High pressure tends to offset high temperature when considering the physical phase of a substance
iceberg789
Listen. Jupiter isn't just a ball of motherfucking gas. It has a solid core under the motherfucking gas
Quite the fascinating sandbox tool you have there.
Next: Saturn was once a star. (There is a legit theory that Saturn was once a star.)
Valerious Catastros no where near enough mass. A brown dwarf (substellar) is minimum of 13 Jupiter mass
@Vale: Conspiracy theory?
+SpookeyR Yes, it is a conspiracy theory mostly from the New Age Movement, and David Icke.
*IMPOSSIBLE* TO BE A STAR 80-90 JUPITER MASS
@Flores: 80-90 x that of Jupiter or 80-90 % that of Jupiter?
My friend, a brilliant scientist and chemist, shared with me years ago that planets ‘grew’. He called it Progression of Planets. Jupiter is about to ignite, becoming a small star. Our worlds atmosphere will continue to grow until we become a gas planet. From small moon to star, progression. Even our moon has an atmosphere that’s growing. Our solar system shows all of the stages of a planet. Neat hypothesis. I think it holds great merit.
Well atmospheres don't grow indefinitely. Especially because of the sun as its strong radiation causes atmospheres to "shed" off. If a planet doesn't have a strong magnetosphere it's not gonna happen.
How could Jupiter be habitable wen there's no land mass???!!!
Alan Silva ...because he click-baited us into coming here. There is no basis for this science. I'm not going to call it fake, because I think he really believes this may have been true. But we are all correct in questioning this.
Alan Silva
Water =/= habitable
Alan Silva so you finna say fish dont live in the water
Alan Silva You forgotten aquatic life?
Frank Winkhorst Finally a person I can agree with. But going alongside with the theory, aquatic life could had happen. But really, slim. Going alongside with what we think of Jupiter, we would had a binary star system
I had a friend who was one of those people who were just so intelligent everyone hated him. He skipped 2 grades and graduated in 10 years. He wanted to go into science and tried Paleontology. He dropped the major after three weeks because he said Its 2% science and 98% imagination. He tried several other disciplines but kept dropping them because of his frustration with how much in 'science' is just what someone 'thinks' based on a model created from again 2% science and 98% imagination. He finally wound up doing genetics research. But he said what he learned from all of that was to take 'science'
with a grain of salt and that the only real science based on facts is mathematics which doesnt have an imagination.
This is the stupidest hypothesis ever!
V28 VLOGS and where is your scientific research to disprove this or are you just assuming because you’re not a scientist that it’s just not possible how much do you know about planets and space and astronomy and physics probably not enough to actually be able to scientifically say that this is a stupid hypothesis you only use your limited capacity to create an opinion based on what other people say and have probably not done any of the actual scientific research needed to disprove such a theory you are after all only a human who can’t comprehend things being greater than yourself
Yeah, seems like we're talking a (geologically) brief window during the heavy bombardment phase. With all of that material coming in, I don't think it could ever have been considered "habitable" or "terrestrial" in anything but the broadest of terms.
Clicked to learn what Terrestrial means
Clicked your profile to see what planet you're from.
In this case, "terrestrial" means a rocky planet that has water on the surface.
RGB Reading lol
Kevin Street no, just a rocky planet
Its called beings....extraterrestrial it means unknown beings
Awesome video So interesting
BS 😕This is just hypothetical nonsense😀
@@Tolbat anton is a astronomer in south korea. He presents all ideas that he finds, both the substantiated ones and the less substantiated ones. That's how science works. Test stuff, throw alot of ideas, discard many until you find the best answer.
@David Renton computer simulations are the most accurate source we have of space.
Ok that just blew my mind
Bullshit!!
It was proven you shitwad
Roblox Hazard7829 No it wasnt you shitidiot!
Rachel Anderson Ur beautiful & this isn't meant to be creepy.
b888 just because they pretty doesnt mean their smart.
Rachel Anderson You are beautiful and this IS meant to be creepy, lighten up. At least he's working on a hypothesis. What are you doing?
Thanks very informative.
That's a good theory. This is a good video. Thank you.
Love your content. Not so sure this really works, but neat.....
How did the "eye" accidentally get generated? That blew me away.
Time stamp?
Venus seems to be turning into a sort of gas planet also.
They had to have a solid core at one point in time for the gases to start sticking to it.
Anton... Another great video! How did that eye storm form on this model spontaneously??
Lovin your shows Anton, makes you think about whats really going on. Some very interesting points you make about planets evolving, they metamorphosis into mind bending configarations. With all due respect I think your Data is back the front when it comes to acretion. Rocks and pebbles are more likely to bounce off each other than to acrete into something with any great gravitational potential. A star however would gratationally attract stuff from all around. Acretion happens in the star. It grabs all available matter and turns it into plasma, then violently spits it into its cromosphere where it electochemically mixes with other plasmas and smashes it back into its surface for even more mixing. Stars continually lose mass and heat in the process. Some to radiation, some as heat, some as light, some to Coronal Mass Ejections. A never ending mixing of plasma chemically giving off mass and energy. Our star would then resembles a ‘red dwarf’. More loss and the star would resemble Jupiter with its red spot (which is probable an Iron composite that will eventually settle toward the core). More electrochemical mixing-more loss of mass and energy and Jupiter will resemble Neptune having created its own water in the mixing process. More time goes by, more mixing, more mass and heat loss and our Jupiter will resemble Uranus with its greener tinge, a sign that these continuous electrochemical reactions are forming photo synthesis abalities in its atmosphere. More Time- more mass loss and our former star looks like Earth. Especially if its gravotationally attracted close enough to a young star that can provide it with enough life giving energy, and life begins. Makes lots more sense starting as a star and losing mass than your portrayal of a planet being able to grow from smaller than earth to Jupiter size. Currently studying Stellar Metamorphosis here on youtube. Great visuals Anton, keep em comin’.
Do you think the "great spot" you created was the place you fired all those asteroids into? Like maybe the great red spot is a giant depression where the dust kicked up from when it was terrestrial is just stuck in the giant depression, swirling around like the way it does in a desert canyon? Like maybe it's red because it's a bunch of the actual dirt from Jupiter's crust and from the asteroids. That's pretty cool you created one unintentionally.
That is an interesting theory to think that Jupiter may have once been a habitable planet! I can't wrap my mind around a planet that is full of gas could have been filled with water and teeming with life. Now, I'm curious to read more about this. I'll have to take a look at more videos on your channel, but I was wondering have you made any videos about Saturn's moon Titan? I read an article years ago that referred to Titan as Earth's sister planet because Titan had wind, rain, volcanoes and tectonics. I always find it fascinating to hear that some planets may be similar to Earth, even if the time they were similar to Earth was a long time ago.
Fascinating! Thank you!
Thanks 4r sharing