Does Zenitsu Really Became Hashira Level or Kaigaku is Week? Demon Slayer Explained
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Let’s talk about if kaigaku was really so week that zentisu was able to slice him with one shot or he was just hashira level himself!
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Zenitsu is actually worthy of this title after his master died. When he became serious I believe his power level will increase instead of having to fall asleep
He has completed the requirement, skill wise. Kill a 12 kizuki or 50 demons.
(it doesnt even have to be an upper moon)
Even with the argument kaigaku is a "last minute" upper-moon muzan is too proud to have any upper moon who is as weak as a lower moon.
He is easily hashira level, even if its at the low end.
@@pandasantiago6269He have to be kinoe rank
@@User-o1p1qwe said hashira level not hashira
Hashira level is basically lower moon level
Hashira level during the time frame of demon slayer isn't lower moon level the lower moons were killed by muzan for always running from Hashira and shit a single hashira killed upper moon 5 but I think Gyutaro would be harder too kill by a slayer because his hacks
@@benbaker4198 Daki has killed 7 hashira without gyutaro, and tengen even said she is not upper moon material. That means at least 7 hashira were weaker than the weakest upper moon. The weak end of hashira rank could definitely be lower moon level.
Zenitsu didn't "unlock" the seventh form, he created it by himself to be able to match Kaigaku to avenge their master
And i thinks its inspired by tanjiros sun breathing just like what tanjiro did
Aaaactually 🤓☝️
Zenitsu created the 7th Form so he could feel like he was fighting alongside Kaigaku as an equal. He didn't create it for vengeance, he created it so he could feel like he was on equal footing with his brother disciple, he intended to use it alongside Kaigaku not to strike Kaigaku down, only his plans changed when he discovered what had happened
@@Happygg6 faxx. when he said "he wanted to try that move with him" it made me cry
Tomato tomahto
@@Happygg6he's not Zenitsu's brother
Tanjiro: Fear the anger of a good man
Zenitsu: Fear the coward who is the bravest
Jeezus, a good comment
Zenitsu is basically the "courage, the cowardly dog" of demon slayer.
Inosuke: FEAR
Inosuke: fear the beast who became a man
Inosuke: Fear the crazy man with a good heart
Zenitsu is obv hashira level when his actually serious and this was because of his masters death and unlocked his 7th form
Made
He created it, that’s why he is a hashira already
He's probably Tengen's level or maybe slightly weaker than Tengen
Zenitsu would be a hashira if muzan didn’t die, as he killed a member of the 12K alone.
He would be a little stronger than tengen since sound breathing is derived from thunder @@anda_jeven
Zenitsu is obviously a hashira level. Despite him not mastering the other thunder breathing form, his mastery over the first form was a feat no one can achieve he made various variation of that form. And i think no one is able to truly master the first form of thunder breathing despite it looking so simple. Later on he also developed the 7th form and fun fact guys, Zenitsu sword has not broken once in this series. because he is a master of his breathing style.
he is not hashira level, cope. sanemi, gyomei, abanai, rengoku, mitsuri, could easily shit on him
@@vzeroxz4678 baseless
@@vzeroxz4678Tanjiro too. Tanjiro is wiping the floor with kaigaku
@@vzeroxz4678dude telling someone cope is lame af lol you sound like a loser
@@vzeroxz4678 all it takes to be a hashira is to kill one of the 12 moons. So by all definitions, he IS a hashira level ://
If zenitsu stopped being scared and faced his fear against any demon and keep training to unlock other forms of thunder breathing he can easily become a hashira within a month
A month I honestly just seen da new episode and I think he already hashira level he just had to come out of his scaryness
He didn't unlock any other forms of thunder breathing, he created the 7th form of thunder breathing.
Remember. First Form of Thunder breathing is the hardest of all of them. And since he developed different Styles of the First Form "Normal, Sixfold, Godlike Speed" he basically knows more than 1 Attack until he developed the 7th form
@@mistmann
Not hardest, but foundation for other form
@@fendysusanto876are you Sure? I think If i remember correctly that for example the enemy of the final Arc couldnt learn the First Form but the rest of em.
But as indidnt red the manga, i might be wrong
If you think of it, technically, he is one because he defeated an upper moon by him
I forgot about that. He most definitely is a lightning Hashira, by definition.
@@Houd_VastThunder
@@hoodedmaniac3602 sure, but thunder is the sound lightning makes, so you understand my confusion.
technically he defeated a demon weaker than lower moon Rui or that mugen train one, anyone would have killed him its just becoz his past muzan paid them
@@Purple_onlinementor still counts, regardless
When a fearful man overcomes fear then he is levels above his former self.
At the end he’s definitely at Hashira level. Him and Tanjiro, both, are absolutely there. For the rest of the rookies it’s more debatable. Kanao may have been juuuust at the edge-low Hashira level-and Inosuke is probably near-Hashira, almost there; but Zenitsu and Tanjiro are clearly there. Zenitsu is something like Mid-Hashira, and Tanjiro something like HigherMid-Hashira.
Kanao and Inosuke killed an upper moon and you have to kill a moon to become hashira so that's a title already
dude is so strong that the writer had to nerf him.
The condition for being a hashira is if you slain 50 demons or 1 of the 12 kizukis(which he did), so yes he is by all qualifications a hashira at that point
POV zenitsu learned every form tengen stays a hashria defeats kaigku much faster and helps fight akaza then helps them fight muzan
(This is all speculation)
Muzan saw it fit enough to give a new demon Kaigaku an upper moon rank when most demons in inifinity castle were said to be start of series lower moon rank. The prerequisite to be a hashira is to slay *a moon*. End of Series Zenitsu is easily hashira level at the start of the story (before they all get the marks).
agreed zenitsu already had all the power to be hashira level he just had no self confidence
Muzan made him uppermoon cuz of hes a breath user + blood was given in large amount by uppermoon 1
I believe zenitsu vs kaigaku fight is one of the COLDEST FIGHT EVER!! In demon slayer anime
Tengen uzui vs Gyutaro was epic
@@Mel-Sqryou haven’t seen nothing yet. Read the manga.
@@Ash05771 i have bozo, just cause its older doesnt mean its not as good, the gyutaro and tengen fight was really good
@@vzeroxz4678bro I don’t think your brain is braining, who are you tryna respond to 💀
@@NewPlayer12334 why are you telling like that 😅 if he like guytaro vs tengen fight its OK. Everyone has there own choices
Just him creating a new form is a hashira worthy feat. Not to mention the unbelievable speed and force he unleashed with the 7th form. Even faster than god-like speed first form.
Kaigaku became the second breath user to ever become a demon. Obviously he was worthy of an upper rank.
nope he wasnt worthy, he was just there as no one else was , also muzan knew his past so he made him fight zenitsu knowing kaigaku will die but it will damage zenitsu emotionally
@@Purple_onlinementorthis doesn't even make sense lmao
@@Purple_onlinementor, tbh, I don't think Muzan gave enough damn about Zenitsu to plan any emotional torture specifically for him. Not sure he even remembered Zenitsu existing 😅
@@dimaudalow muzan doesn't even care about humans I don't think he will go that far for a scared cat who happens to learn 1st form
2nd breath cuz no one except kokushibo betrayed slayers
Can't get enough of that good ol' "when the class clown gets serious" sauce.
Steph must be feeling like Neo in the matrix the way he’s been dodging bullets these past few reactions
Zenitsu didn't ‘ Unlock ’ Seventh Form, he created it himself so he could be like Kaigaku
He deserved to be the Thunder Hashira
Kaigaku is a type of being who could not fulfill his humanity as a human , responsibility as slayer and duty as a demon
When everyone got transported to the infinity castle zanitsu was the only one with the look on his face like everyone going to get it
He was locked in!
Zenitsu created the 7th form in hopes that he could fight alongside Kaigaku as brother disciples, but in the end it was the 7th form that laid waste to Kaigaku instead.
Dude defeating a kizuki makes you a hashira
"dude" that is just wrong.
first of all you need to defeat 50 demons or 1 of the 12K (wich you had right). BUT you also need to be rank Kineo (wich he wasnt at all) AND all the other hashiras must accept him as another hashira. so he was 1/3 of the way to become a hashira.
@qmattis6793 Doubt they'd say no, and he wasn't a higher rank due to the events going on. Literally by display of power he'd be at Hashira level. That's the whole point. So "dude" they are not wrong and are more correct in their approach than you.
The coolest character when they were falling down in the infinity castle. Period.
Awaken Zenitsu entered the infinity castle as a Hashira.
If Zenitsu was sleeping he probably would’ve been hashira lvl
zenitsu is like one hard lesson in life. Hone a single skill instead to its optimal level rather than learning all at once on average.
Yushiro said kaigaku was inexperience so If he was they both would’ve died
I think that kaigaku deserves upper rank 6 but if he learned how to use his powers then he would be a higher rank
He said even if kaigaku was an upper moon for 1 year zenitsu would be dead on the spot
@@johnchina4065 well i mean it dont really matter cuz kaigaku died before that could happen
@@heubert69 yeah ik but I'm just correcting his statement
@@johnchina4065 so zenitsu won't be stronger after 1 year more?
While he was falling head first and grabbed his katana, that sin was badass 😎. My boy ain't scared no more.
Zenitsu was on straight rage...
To become a hashira you just have to defeat one of the 12 demon moons of kaigaku was upper moon 6 then we all know he would be at least lower moon 12 in strength. So Zsnitsu is hashira level, it's just the demon slayer corpse disbanded the same day.
I think being a Hasira isn't just about being able to beat Lower Moon or Upper Moon
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no he wouldnt be hashira. you need to be kinoe rank and need to be accepted by every other hashira. also zenitsu only was so strong since he had so much anger against him. if it wouldve been like Gyutaro & Daki he wouldnt stand even the slightest chance against them prob not even with his mark.
Zenitsu is definitely worthy of being the Rumble Hashira, He fought an Upper Moon demon alone and created his own form of Thunder Breathing and mastered the First Form that he was able to perform many different variations of it
I would say he is worth the title because he did beat upper moon 6 without a mark which he a pretty good feat.
He didnt "unlock" the seventh form of thunder breathing. He fucking created it
Bro been hashira level just scared for his life
Best boy level up from being a Sleeping Simp to Upper Moon Killer ⚡
Zenitsu is definitely on a hashira level in the final arc. Being able to create a very strong form is a feat only a hashira or an equivalent can do.
Powerscalers are the worse thing that exist on the world of entertainment, but the industry needs them. If it depended on them every single work of fiction would be only about who is the strongest.
Well if a demon slayer defeats an upper rank by themselves, I think they do become a hashira but I could be wrong
Any of 12 kizuki even lower ranks
@@Bl0odazura okay thanks
They also don't need to be by themselves, sanemi beat a lower moon with help from his friend, but his friend died in the fight. Sanemi was still made a hashira after
@@fbi9833 yeah thanks I just forgot :p
also you needa be kinoe rank
He’s definitely Hashira level because to be a hashira you need to slay a kizuki lower or upper or kill 50 demons
But his weaker
@@rayano-ub5dwwho is Weaker Kaigaku İ think Stronger than All Lowermoons And 1 Lowermoon Kill you RE Hashira
Zenitshu 🔥
Tanjiro, Inosuke, Zenitsu, Kanao & Genya were all Hashira level. “HASHIRA training Arc” - they ended up w/ 5 new Hashira afterwards. Go back & look, the manga gives subtle hints.
Not genya. His powers were amplified due to Kokushibo’s flesh and blood but it was temporary.
When the Joker didn't laugh anymore you know you f*cked up when the Joker didn't laugh anymore💥💀
Zenitsu-
Zenitsu was most definitely Hashira level but only bc he “unmentioned in the show” mastered the transparent world. He meditated so deep that it appeared that he was asleep & literally fought with his eyes closed. He continued to use the strongest & only technique he knew in his breathing style. It was in the training arc that he learned to meditate while awake. Which in the second to last episode his head was seen bleeding & he was wide awake while in deep meditation. Never mentioned, now he is able to learn the other techniques on top of the one he created. When the arc is over he is deemed the apparently the fastest Hashira & one of the longest living out of all the slayers
Zenitsu : Am bouta end muzan ma self
What you mean almost....how many hashira did daki kill 12 something.
Daki 7 and her brother 15
@@Monu_kumar100 ya that's what uper moons are no joke. I would say he is stronger then few current Hashira + he doent unlock his mark also.
@@Mel-Sqr yes but you also gotta remember that the last upper 6 were demons for more than 100 years so they could eat thousands of humans to get stronger and Kaigaku only was a demon for a few weeks so at that time he probably was lower moon 1 level. It is still an impressive feat and he is pretty strong but even the creator of demon slayer said that if kaigaku wouldve been a demon for just a few months Zenitsu wouldve died on the spot.
i do remember yashiro said after tht, if zenitsu meet kaigaku a year later there's will change the course because kaigaku not yet manage to utilise his ability to it maximum...
yet Zenitsu still deserves a respect with all cowardice attitude he had which some fan will find it super annoying,he still manages to push himself training like mad secretly behind other and achieve remarkable results because of it....
started with just one move then suddenly tht one move grow/upgrade into two variants sixfold/thunderclap..
Kiagaku literally was a demon for like a few weeks , had it been any longer he would’ve died no doubt about it , he deserves the title especially after the Daki fight too
the second slayer weve seen create a new form for an art thats existed for hundreds of years.
Damn rght hes a hashira. you dont survive getting that close to muzan without being one
He is the only one who beheaded a upper moon demon with only 1 strike
He is the only one who beheaded a upper moon demon with only 1 strike
💯 zenitsu would be hashira level in the future and a far greater one than most, cause blud is a badass.
Zenitsu's speed has been hashira level from the beginning.
Guy making the 7th form was an overkill. Zenitsu could have literally spammed the 1st form and beat him anyways. The speed gap was too great
Blud was locked in 😂
Talent wise : yes, hes the fastest
Mental wise : still need motivation
Zenitsu’s talent is greater than his belief in himself.
Actually he "created" the 7th form of Thunder Breathing which is even more impressive 😎
He’s mastered the hardest technique in that breathing style he definitely Hashira level
The most important thing about this conversation are the forms, step 1 was the foundation and you had to master it to really master the other 5 forms. IF Kaigaku mastered the first step there’s no question he would have beaten Zenitsu, since Z mastered form 1 he was able to create a 7th. Thus catching Kai by surprise
Doesn't matter what the fans say, the story states defeating such a Demon on your own would qualify you as a Hashira.
I feel like the new upper moon 6 this time was a good bit weaker than the former upper moon 6.
But still it was amazing to see Zenitsu 1V1 the guy. And create a new breath of the thunder breathing.
Obanai and some other Hashira were honestly incredibly lackluster and made me grimace at their pathetic performance.
kaigaku is indeed “week”
His character development was his plot armour so yeah he's hashira level
Kind of hard to believe Zenitsu got so powerful and cool when he was a coward and a simp most of the time, I respect that😎
Even IF Kaigaku is weak for an upper moon he's AT LEAST lower moon strength. And taking out any moon solo is one of the ways to qualify as Hashira
Zenitsu is fast as yoriichi, in the future he might overcome that limit
"Hes almost a hashira level." Proceeds to solo a upper moon as Kanoe with no help
yeaaa..... only problem he wasnt Kanoe.
Well it was stated that Thunder Breathing is one of the most hardest breathing especially its 1st form, and him creating another form of Thunder Breathing and defeating Kaigaku is indeed an impressive feat, a demon who knows how to use breathing style is dangerous. I'd say he's on close to Hashira or on Hashira level.
That cover when he says "fought" is of a song I know, brilliant, @Soulrap
I cannot wait to see the animation for this fight Zenitsu looked so intense I could feel the thunder and lighting😅😅
he was not "almost" he just was
And i Quote. “To become a A Hashira you must kill 50 demons or **DEFEAT AN UPPERMOON.**
Tanjiro, Inoske and zenitsu became almost hashira level after hashira training
Kaigaku became demon like small amount of time ago and didnt probably eat any human at all. He is demon with breathing form so i think he can become as powerfull as kokushibo
If only zenitsu followed rengoku and named his original form after himself
Imagine zenitsu got his demon slayer mark
I think sleeping zenitsu is more powerful than original one!!😮
Finally someone knows!
Kaigaku the 8th day of the week now
I can't wait for last season
There will not be one, they are planning on making 3 movies sadly this will drag on for a couple of years if not 3
Ohhh man
@@Mel-Sqr noooo😭
Don't forget that he defeated Kaigaku without the demon slayer mark
The weak shoukd quiver when the nice guy gets angry
Kaigaku plays an demon roll in entire series even he becoming before demon also
Zenitsu is the only person out of the 3 who actually has the met the requirements of a hashira 💀
if courage the cowardly dog was in an anime
Imagine you became an Hashira with only 1 moves ( and you created one)
GOAT🗿
Tengen be like : I did it without a sweat
Meanwhile, Zenitsu must make the 7th form to defeat the newly recruited demon Kaigaku
Honestly if you can fight any of the upper moons especially by yourself than you’re Hashira level. You ain’t gotta be the strongest Hasira but you should qualify if available
Kaigaku being inexperienced was the weakest UM. That being said, you still have to be Hashira level to solo him.
Yeah cuz Tengen Uzui was literally hit for hit with Gyutaro
@@ganymede6535while that is true, zenitsu would not stand a chance against gyutaro. They were far too strong
You'd qualify as a hashira for defeating any of the 12 kizukis or slain 50 demons. So by qualification, zenitsu is a hashira
He might tbh thats the thing we never know with him. @Zeldrisxo8
@@Zeldrisxo8 True
Most potential of the main crew easily.
No not even close 💀 Tanjiro has the most potential in the show lmfao. He literally has sun breathing and every amp. An adult tanjiro would be the second strongest demon slayer in history lmao.
No it's tanjiro with bs amount of plot "memories"
@@LikablSouL it’s not plot tf 💀 then it’s plot that yorrichi has it lmfao
@@truecreation8803 yoriichi was gifted tanjiro learned all forms from no where just "memories of he didn't even knew"
@@LikablSouL are you dumb?💀 tanjiro already knew all the forms lmfao he was literally taught the entire dance as a kid. The memories showed him how to do it properly straight from yorrichi himself. That’s not plot bs 💀
If Nezuko was behind kaigaku
Zenitsu: nezuko chaaaannn 😍😍
this was his first conscious fight and he solod an upper moon 😭
Kaigaku looks like that orphan child who set Himejima and other orphan childs to the demon. Himejima was accused for murder as sayo got confused and scared but Himejima killed the demon just to save Sayo.
He IS the kid actually
He was very powerful even before becoming serious and not sleeping.. he was just being coward due to his past..
For example.. even without sleeping when he sprints with dedication.. he was the fastest and near to hashira. Even rengoku acknowledged him to be the fastest.. and his speed is the strength.. sword is just a tool.. he kills with speed
Yes, Zenitsu was hiding it all along. Same with Inosuke and Tanjiro.
He is the only one who beheaded a upper moon demon with only 1 strike
Dont forgest that killing a uppermoon with no help can make you a hashira
He's always been a Tsugoku from the start
when he first showed up, I thought he is actually adding a fun in the show but at some point I felt like dropping the show because of his laugh cry but when he first show his power, from that moment I knew he is my favourite
the 7th form is so fast that his haori was torn to pieces in the air