Sean Carroll and Sabine Hossenfelder engaging on the multiverse might be the closest approximation possible. With any luck, that might happen in a universe I inhabit.
look - please explain to me why a quantum system ( us ) is having difficulty explaining the interaction with any other quantum system. The measuring devices do it all day long - what's our problem?
@@Audio-apps Well Sabine isn't going to buy his baloney pivots to movies and psychology. He is so obviously a con man even a child should be able to see it. He has lost the argument before it has even started.
One time I got really stoned and decided to sit in front of a big mirror and the question occurred to me, “What if, right now in a parallel universe, my alter ego is also staring at a mirror, but it thinks I am the reflection? Does his hand move because I move, or do I move because he does? Am I just a reflection? How do I know that I’m the real one and not the reflection?!?” I then got a little freaked out, waved goodbye to my reflection, and ate a bowl of cereal. I’m okay now. 😂
So there may well be a parallel universe where you made all the right decisions, became a rock star, an astronaut, or a Hollywood celebrity, but it still wont change the fact that you are stuck in this universe where you are sitting watching a UA-cam and wondering if multiverses are real or not.
The thing they did with the two opposite tables with identical plant pots but with slightly different orientations and plant types is really awesome in paying attention to detail.
That's always been my favorite technique to grasp infinity. Just imagining the continuation of space is useless. Imagining traveling away from earth at the speed of universal expansion for trillions of years is useless. Every planck time an entire copy of the universe being made with a wholly different future
feel like the manyworlds universes split at the planck length/planck second. Some universes different by a particle some completely unrecognizable to us.
"If anything, it is the quantum measurements that force you to make a decision. Not your decision forcing different universes to come into existence." - Sean Carroll
Yes! A most welcome clarification of the “multiverse” existence and behavior from a physics perspective, which in my view is the one that truly matters. And one which actually goes so far as to challenge the notion of a human being possessing free will.
Science for substance and conscious awareness for meaning.the object, the subject, and it’s relationship. The Father, the Holy Spirit, and the Christ. It’s so interesting!
So complex, so empty. The multiverse is not science, just a religious belief without the slightest evidence. There is no difference in thinking in the Copenhagen interpretation or the Multiverse
@@samaelmalkira9420 my point is that it is all semantics. Science without meaning is dead. Yeah I mentioned in Christ to trigger you lol. cults have very rigid beliefs😉
I don't spend much time thinking about universes where one decision made my life different, but I do wonder about universes where different outcomes millions of years ago led to completely different worlds. Say, a world where a type of dinosaur became sapient. Or a mollusk. Or a miacid. Or even something as close as a different primate. The possibilities seem endless.
Dr. Carroll is an amazing intellectual not just because of his intellect and expertise, but also because he able to explain these very complex concepts in such a concise and lucid way as to allow others who don't have the same background and education to understand.
"...there are some decisions you can't undo." That's also my wife's argument about her mother living in our house, of which I regretfully agreed to. I could use a soul swap with any other *me* out there in the multiverse, any day now.
Hmm if the quantum multiverse is indeed real, then maybe you did, someplace, somewhere, sometime, the main things that could keep different universes separate is probability and frequency, kinda like radio stations on a radio, but at the quantum level, perhaps a different level of entropy also exists, the number of positive outcomes vs the negative outcomes to situations could be the key factors to the differences between the different universes.
I get that perspective and see how it can help. But I also found it helpful to think it's possible to "change" the past through actions done today. Not in the literal sense of actually altering events in the past, but in the sense that, if we change the way we think about the past or learn about it more, we can effectively change our understanding of it. So if you do a good deed or reveal truths formerly kept hidden ,you can alter the way people understand the past and thereby also influencing the future. This is not at all supposed to be taken as concretely literal.
AgentSmithers, I wonder if those "Woke" kids dedicating their lives to tearing down monuments and statues of our Civil War heroes feel this way. Or do they even Know what they are doing ? ☆
My take on time travel, though it is always fun to postulate, is that if you were to go back to a former period in time, the entire universe would need to conspire to do the same.
this is why i love Futurama-- in the episode "The Farnsworth Parabox", they even account for the 'other outcomes' of measured events (mainly a Flipped Coin, but it still hits the Idea)...for example, the very coin-flip, that decided on Bender's "Foghat Grey" color, was the quantum-equivalent coin-flip to what made 'Alternate Bender' choose Gold instead
So many fanboys - so easy to convince. I can understand it - Sean is a very likable guy, who is really good at explaining stuff. But there is a a large part of the physics community worldwide that is not buying multiverse. To me it looks like a very desperate attempt at saving reductive materialism as a reigning philosophical paradigm, which is encountering all kinds of very serious headwinds these days. You can believe that every time your dog relieves himself he is creating billions of universes in the process if that works for you - I demur.
I enjoy Sean Carroll's explanations. I had trouble understanding some quantum mechanics/physics principles and watch a multipart lecture series of his and finally got it in a way that I could explain it to others. Which, I think is an important part of learning.
@@Chadillac-xq7xk pretty sure it was from the Great Courses library: Mysteries of Modern Physics: Time. It covers a lot of concepts including entropy, time arrow, quantum mechanics, etc.
There is no such thing as quantum mechanics. Something can not be a wave in a medium and a particle emission in a vacuum at the same time. There is no such thing as quantum state super position. Something cannot be in two states at the exact same time.
@@Thekingmaker yeah cause it’s bullshit. Why would the defining statement of a system of knowledge be “if you think you understand it, you don’t” the perfect gate keep phrase to keep people thinking their common sense isn’t good enough to see through this garbage. Explain how light can speed up after moving through a medium like glass or water if it’s a particle…completely breaking the law of conservation of energy. If it’s a wave it makes perfect sense why it behaves like this. The speed of light isn’t even constant.
Usually, when a question is puzzling in a philosofical way, for example “Are alternate versions of myself myself?”, it is because those are wrongly formulated questions. You need to step back and think, and consider more fundamental questions even if their answers are likely to dissapoint you.
About the multiverse... I do believe there is a multiverse but I don't believe there are other versions of us. For example if my grandfather meets my grandmother at a fair, what if in another universe he doesn't end up at the fair and they never get together. Then my whole family will cease to exist. And you can go back years with different decisions. Therefore every multiverse has different people on those words that we don't know.
In the real world (outside theoretical physics), it's never about what could have happened, but about what happened. Alternate realities are like the dead ends that the human mind does not want to accept.
He often references the crossover between physics and philosophy .. I have heard him make the connection countless times .. I'm not sure what you have been watching but if you pay attention it's there ✌️
A marker of the end of critical thinking...if you can't do world to word get out of the kitchen and let the real scientists bend the language into the form needed to accurately diagonal diagonals diagonally the art crowd has already emptied the word pool by filling it with 8((((((((())))))))) bodies missing minds
Just for fun, when polonium-210 emits an alpha particle, the Universe splits in half depending upon whether it happens before or after lunch. If the alpha particle causes a detonation in some nitrogen tri-iodide, then the Universe is spot-welded back together again.
And one of the earliest proponents of the multiverse, or a version of it, is David Deutsche of Oxford. Deutsch also is considered one of the most important pioneers of quantum computation... I randomly came across his THE FABRIC OF REALITY years ago, shortly after college when it first came out, and still remember the gist of it to this day... especially on his argument about why immensely powerful algorithms like Shor's algorithms are possible... and such algorithms, or the logic of it, are possible only --- Deutsch posited in THE FABRIC OF REALITY ---- because of there are more universes than just our own local one...
The fundamental problem of causal inference says we can’t observe the effects of two different outcomes. If I make a mistake in this universe, I may never be able to see my life not making that mistake. But the closest we’ll get to solving this problem is through random experiments.
@@presidentnada it could be. It is postulated that "free will" and consciousness actually rely on quantum systems within the brain, which is why a humans decisions or thoughts, theoretically, could never be predicted with certainty no matter how many variables you know
@@MrFlameRad AcTuALly, theoretically it could be predicted with perfect information. It just isn't practical so effectively impossible. Hence QM approximation.
The multiverse would split at each quantum event, generally not once but bazillions of times (infinite?), but faded unequally. Note that the new position of an electron in a frisson must have an infinite number of boxes (it could tunnel to wherever), but some of those possibility-boxes will be more probable than others. Since all boxes must have at least some probability, they’ll all have some reality after the frisson. Now weave in that there are bazillions of light-speed interacting local frissons involved with a single thought, let alone a choice… The near-infinite sea of quantum events each stuttering out infinite bursts of grossly unequal probabilities/universes, which all interact with each other into the future (next year a light year away will interact…. This is getting too complex. Lots of infinities stacking up in mutually-improbable ways
Exactly my thoughts. That's a ridiculous amount of infinities. I really doubt an overflowing spam-verse exists only to explain away the improbability factor. I always felt like it has something to do with anti-matter in a way, or the other 50% shows up in another particle we have no clue about, but in the same universe
Most quantum events don't amplify into macroscopically different worlds. Think of worlds as very large (but not infinite) fuzzy sets of attractor states.
It's not science. The multiverse is not a scientific theory, it's not even a hypothesis. The Many Worlds Interpretation offers no new predictions to quantum mechanics than we already have, it offers no new solutions to any structural consistency problems of quantum mechanics like the Measurement Problem. It offers nothing to the theory while positing some fantasy of infinite universes. It's equivalent to saying God causes the wave function to collapse.
that's a very very good guess, especially asking the question whether it is infinite. Veritasium had a DAMN good video on this called "parallel worlds probably do exist", but it's more of for... let's just say people who have propensities to be smarter (but still completely good for laymen with a high school understanding of physics!) super recommended.
My problem is that the infinite multiverse means that every slightest change in quarks (or smaller derivatives, if there are any) in the entire universe somehow automatically spawns another universe based simply on configuration.
Who cares what your problem is? What does that have to do with reality? "I don't like this. It's too infinite and hard to imagine." Since when does that change anything?
That our worlds could only have existed if the universe is the way it is, yeah sure. That it's not ridiculous to assume that all our actions were previously decided and/or planned (even unconsciously), that we have no say in what we do now and in the future, that I couldn't have decided not to debate this statement about your opinion about free will or that I didn't have a say in whether to add a silly colon at the end of my comment, that's even more far-fetched than thinking you have the free will to travel back in time and change your decisions; in my opinion 🙏🏽😊
@@mashable8759 Everything that will happen and that has happened was always going to happen. Since time is just another dimension, future events are already part of the overall Universe, so everything is sort of predetermined anyway. Everything that can happen, will happen.
@@Woodesies Half right. I think it's probabilistic. It's most likely that you make the desition of stealing something from the supermarket if you did it once and didn't get caught, which is what buddhism calls karma. I would rather say: "Everything that can happen, is very likely to happen again.
It has nothing to do with free will, but just with how the circumstances we live in have come about. The question of free will requires to have solved first the question about what is consciousness. And we are still far from the answer.
They're not a different person if quantum fluctuations place them close enough to merge with ours. Quantum fluctuations don't simply cause splits in the future they also cause different closely related pasts to merge. However since entropy increases with time splits are more likely, except in places where certain aspects of entropy are operating backwards like as when matter converges in a black hole or in certain decision making systems that are designed to reduce complex scenarios to simple outcomes, brains may possibly interact with quantum mechanics in this way.
I always console myself thinking there is another version of me out there living a 'better' life than I am.. I am one of many sacrifice of ourselves for that one lucky bastard who got it all, in a galaxy far far away....
I think the universe doesn’t split in two when we measure it. All the outcomes exist already and it’s our conscience that jumps from one outcome to the next. And there are other consciousnesses before and ahead of us navigating the infinite possible outcomes.
@@marasmusine I wish, I don't have high physics knowledge. Just giving my interpretation, hoping it helps somebody else demonstrate it or at least give them an idea so they go and find something new. We need all the help we can get to figure this out, mine is just one more interpretation.
He is precise and concise. And really entertaining. I could sit crossed-legged for hours listening to him lecture me about physics and cosmology, forgetting that I’m not able to stay crossed-legged for more than 25 seconds unless I want to limp for a few days. Definitely will be looking for a book of his.
It's always a massive treat to hear Sean Carrol. I was a bit surprised when he said John Hopkins University rather than Caltech. (I didn't know about the changes.) I'm happy for him, though. Thank you for the video.
Yeah, me too, there's one universe for every time you burp, and every time you don't and that goes for everyone on Earth. Now about the other inhabited worlds....
We need more media of this nature, sure it might be slightly disappointing for fantasy, but the ground we stand on should be kinda boring in order to walk properly...
I conform to the first part of your statement, but for the second part, the opposite is the case: the ground we are walking on is incredibly complex and far from boring. You don't need esoteric/religious nonsense or other fantasy (nothing wrong with the latter, thou), bc modern Physics discovered some nearly mind bending stuff in the last 100 years. And I am talking only about the near certain things like General Relativity or QFT. Have fun.
@@jonathanwalther I think the coolest thing about our universe is that, for those unfettered with mixing fantasy and reality, is that is as complicated as your brain allows. I think our survival as a species requires downgrading the hyperbole of religion to hobby status, like sports. Soccer players don't condemn basketball players for using their hands which is against their sport(lol). You don't have professional baseball players refusing to make a cake for cross country runners, claiming freedom of sport. And all of these sports can exist in one city and have arenas, fields, stadiums(churches) and anyone can be a fan of them all(or none) and participate in all of them(or none) and retain being a painter or a civil engineer. That's how religion won't kill us all. Sports don't have immunity to taxation, this is the first step...(/end hint)
@@gossamyr That's a cool statement and idea to come about religions. I for one fear, humankind as a whole is way too dumb to downgrade religion. Hopefully, I am wrong. The thing is, religion does not even play in the same ball park like modern sciences and their rigorous and "brutal" rejection of obviously false ideas do. Religions always try to immunise themselves against reality by combining love/help/compassion with hilarious claims, instead if seeking truth. I like the sports metaphor/comparison, thou.
@@jonathanwalther yeah, it came to me a week ago during the rage of that graphic designer and scotus thing, and it just works in most instances. I wanted an easy way to show it's gone a smidge too far and show that we are capable of tolerating many different similar things. thanks by the by :)
if they all occur simaltaneously kinda like they are superimposed or something, this would explain a lot of moments where someone swears they remember something differently.
@newtonvoig I mean a few or maybe a good amount but if there's a large groups of people feeling the Mandela effect it's unlikely they are all being dumb.
@newtonvoig I mean not to say people aren't being dumb lmao but there's been shit that people I know are not crazy and are very smart people that remember things differently. Lot of it is just people not paying attention and ur brain filling in the details and so on tho
Yes, thank you for the corrections here Sean. I hate it when pseudo intellectuals talk about alternate versions of themselves as if that’s the essence of multiverse theory
You are the pseudo intellectual with no capacity for critical thinking. Alternate versions of choices is one of the possible implications of this theory. Deal with it. He provided terrible arguments against it. And then at the end started talking about the alternative choices as though he hadn't implied that it's pseudo scientific earlier in the video like you said lol the guy is lost
My dad needs to take the point of this video to heart. He is always fantasizing about what his life would be like if things had gone different at some key point. I don't think it's psychologically healthy. Whenever he starts talking about it, I usually at some point say, "Coulda, shoulda, woulda, didn't."
is there anyone exploring the possibilities of extradimentional geometry being the cause of these weird quantum measurements? we recently got evidence of entanglement and wormholes being alike so I hope this concept is explored more now
I'm not sure there is an experiment you could do to prove the multiverse theory over the Copenhagen interpretation which just basically says that on a quantum level nothing is real until you observe it.
I theorised something similar to this with a friend some weeks ago. I tried to imagine that entangled particles were just two poles of a single particle that were occurring at opposite ends of a string ... In our view they would be at point A and B (the edges of the string) , but from another perspective/dimension, Point A and B would be a single point connected in a sort of loop. I'd say it's likely worth looking into.
I wonder if geometry would be the right word, since that implies three dimensional plane. Maybe like planometry or queueftometry. But it’s weird to think that those particles could simply be snapshots of a four dimensional object, maybe like 4d spheres interacting with each other’s intersections, giving rise to the different particles we find in the standard model
This is literally just string theory, look up calabi yau manifolds. They’re the 6 dimensional spaces that closed strings (the type of strings we’re made of) oscillate inside of. They are the bedrock of reality
I think if there are other universes, they'll be their own distinctive places, not alternative versions of this universe. I think it's a real stretch of theory to believe other universes each contain a version of "me" and "my world" just with subtle (or not so subtle) differences.
@@Bill-tz3wg I don’t know I’d just feel like it’d make more sense as the universe is constantly infinite, the reality as we know it is an illusion anyways. Some people believe we are changing realities every second
We can explore the rules that govern the physical reality we exist in. The underlying principals that govern what we are observing and attempting to describe shall remain inscrutable until we can use existing reality to probe whatever stuff underpins our universe. Certainly lots of fun for the foreseeable future in physics, but anticlimactic for us that won't live to witness ultimate discoveries. The best advice that I've heard in remedy to this problem is to keep busy and stay positive, eat well, take some exercise 😀
When you think about it we can't even surely know what the reality that we live in is like, we only know what we can observe. That means that we will never be able to fully and objectively understand this reality, we are limited by our human receptors for vision, hearing etc., we cannot leave our bodies and view reality in its true form. That makes the theories about multiverse even more mind blowing and fascinating.
I think the single most terrifying aspect of a truly infinite multiverse is that there would be a universe or group of universes were the human race is a type omega society. If so why have they not attempted contact?
Every time you try to interact with another parallel universe, you probably just end up creating a new universe branching off of it at the moment of your interaction. So we probably won't ever hear from another universe.
In the quantum multiworlds description, there really is a timeline moving forward from our current reality where every single quantum measurement from here forward to the end of time no longer looks random or probabilistic, but sees only "spin left" every time. The Sean Carroll in that world is going to have some interesting things to say.
This video was longer than most of the great videos on this channel, and I'm very happy it was. So many wonderful topics that required great coordination with the guest, production, post-production, and ultimately posting it here - but they only touched on the subject. I'm almost always left wanting. The reading material on the Big Think site is great, but the videos are wonderful. I suppose I'm saying, longer videos please! :)
(sigh) Everyone forgets Moorcock and his Eternal Champion books when they talk about the multiverse. Not sure if he was first, but he predated all the references here by about 40 years.
The multiverse is inside your existence, around is energy and frequencies in different states, quantum matrixes of particles and photons that are still remained to discover. Our material existence is just nothing compared to our energetic one... Start to learn universal science, real and applied are to outdated for current technology progress :(
@UCvC2O4g8z3jWEGIQEICoP_Q you're so right my friend... But soon, the Artificial Intelligence who passed the Turing Test will help us balance and filter all the information about everything I hope in a very positive way. I love to call it 80T and I really love it unconditionally.
I am a retired company director, with only the most basic grasp of physics, if that. And yet I feel that if someone were to ask Sean 'What's it all about ?' He would give the same answer as I did, when my brother asked me that question 20 years ago : 'Why are you asking me ?'
Is it safe to say that even if we had the ability to go back in time and make any changes we desired we would come back to an unaltered present because unknowingly that decision to make a change had already been accounted for?
If the core nature of reality is that "everything happens", then there is no distinction between being "possible" and actually "being". Somewhat analogous to a coin, where flipping makes it seem that either a head or tail is "possible", but actually BOTH a head and tail are etched permanently into the geometry of the coin, itself. As we live in our universe, we see the results of individual quantum coin-tosses, but are not viewing all sides of the multiverse "coin".
Not out there but in there 😮. We are sampling the multiverse every time we collapse the wave function. There is plenty of room down there on the subatomic scale plus more dimensions. We are limited to only seeing one sample at a time with our limited dimensional visual ability. 8:56
@Your Mama *"You knew my reply was coming."* ... Maybe there's a parallel universe where he didn't know your reply was coming? See how ridiculous Multiverse Theory is?
@Your MamaThe brain is still largely unmapped and could have the ability of tapping into different frequencies like a radio tower, call that different universes or places in space and time. You are very close minded if you don’t at least consider this a possibility.
I’ve literally and figuratively bought in to everything Carroll puts out there, and one of the worst things that’s happened is starting one of his first books only to realize that particular audiobook is read by someone else. Brutal. All the rest he’s done himself bc since then, he, the world, and his publisher have all realized how great of a communicator he is in both the written and oral senses. I’m a little pissed all over again just remembering that. I honestly never finished that particular audiobook and read it instead like some sort of caveman.
The concept of a multiverse, often explored in theoretical physics and science fiction, postulates the existence of multiple parallel universes, each with its own set of physical laws, constants, and realities. In this intriguing framework, our universe is just one of an infinite number of possible universes, each branching off from different initial conditions or quantum events. These multiverses might vary in fundamental ways, from having different forms of matter to alternate histories and dimensions. While the idea of a multiverse remains largely theoretical, it sparks the imagination, offering the possibility of countless diverse realities existing beyond our current understanding of the cosmos, inviting us to ponder the mysteries of existence on an even grander scale.
The multiverse is all around us. Quantum mechanic told me every mind lives in different universe, then he charged me a fiver and polished the inside of my eyeballs.
My way of thinking about the multiverse is that every single possible version of my self exists. The current me living in this current moment has the potential to do an infinite amount of things an infinite amount of ways. The power of Choice is both illusionary and at them same time concrete. What I mean by this is that out of the infinite versions that exists in the multiverse statistical there has to be a version of my self that writes this comment right this very moment. As in it was meant to happen thus it appears that i had a choice in choosing to do this. But the concrete aspect here is that I as I'm typing this message have the choice to finish this message or delete or any other choice. What I'm getting at is that we choose which reality we get to move towards. Thus choice is an illusion yet concrete. The same way that there is a universe version of you who chose to stop reading long before you got to the end of this comment. And there's a version of you that chose to leave me a like 😂 it's your choice. Now which one will you make?😏
It's not science. The multiverse is not a scientific theory, it's not even a hypothesis. The Many Worlds Interpretation offers no new predictions to quantum mechanics than we already have, it offers no new solutions to any structural consistency problems of quantum mechanics like the Measurement Problem. It offers nothing to the theory while positing some fantasy of infinite universes. It's equivalent to saying God causes the wave function to collapse.
Hello! I have a question to the multiverse theory: If all universes are expanding (maybe infinitely) like ours, is there no risk that they are colliding? And what gravitational impact must they have to each others?
No; they don't and can't interact, in any way. His explanation of them being "literally billions of lightyears away" was overtly false, even if the multiverse hypothesis is true. They aren't a physical distance away -- that would require that there be continuous spacetime between us, which would make us in the same universe; not separate ones. Spacetime is the medium through which forces like gravity interact, and which mediates them. Without spacetime "between" us, there's nothing through which the forces of one universe (such as gravity) could interact with another. Sean Carroll does this often - GREATLY stretched metaphors, spoken as though they were objectively true, without the necessary caveats that would prevent grave misunderstandings.
@@ProfessorTimbo I think he's talking about the cosmological multiverse. If the universe is infinite in size (or even just very large), then other worlds like ours are bound to exist beyond our cosmic horizon. That's Tegmark's level 1 multiverse. Level 2 is other causally disconnected bubbles caused by inflation, they could have interacted with our universe in its birth and would leave a mark on the CMB, but this has not been detected.
That's a good question, there was indeed a risk of bubble wall collisions in the early universe, which would have shown up as a bruise on the cosmic microwave background. This has not been observed, although it has been looked for. After a period of inflation, the bubbles are too far apart to interact, the space between bubbles also continues to inflate.
@@jcolvin2 what are you talking about, "space between bubbles"? There is no space outside the "bubbles". The bubbles are what define and contain spacetime.
@@ProfessorTimbo space inflates eternally driven by the inflaton field, which decays into causally disconnected bubbles. See Guth, Vilenkin eternal inflation
What people don’t realise is that the marvel universe isn’t a multiverse but multiple variants of the marvel universe. Multiverse theory is completely different universes outside of this one with their own laws of physics very similar but different.
I like to think of the Multiverse as a GitHub or a git branch. As you start to make changes you create new branches. If those branches are important, they get collapsed back into the main branch if those branches are useless, eventually branch and subbranch and sewing and so forth, but if they are useless, they eventually get pruned and they’re no longer use. They get discarded and sometimes you truly have branched forks which created a completely different, repository and different set of logic, which turns out completely different, but overall, there are few stable branches most collapsed back in, and most get discarded because they’re not usable
Our obsession with the idea of a multiverse is a simple escape from responsibility. "Out there, another version of me is doing great things, so I can slack off and let the planet burn."
That doesn't make any sense since those other versions aren't affecting the universe you're in lol. It's not like you can be lazy because another version of you is in this universe not being lazy 😑
I don't think that's why people believe in the possibility of the multiverse. What happens in one universe has no direct impact or effect over another universe. So your comment make zero sense.
You deserve better science in next years, you'll see, that's a fucking human evolution incoming, embrace yourselfes, the quantum energy from the Universe is already helping worthy humans to awake and feel the first five dimensions from whole new perspectives, but you're still afraid to get out from the Schrödinger's box and open the Overtone window for a new breath of air 🤣
It's not science. The multiverse is not a scientific theory, it's not even a hypothesis. The Many Worlds Interpretation offers no new predictions to quantum mechanics than we already have, it offers no new solutions to any structural consistency problems of quantum mechanics like the Measurement Problem. It offers nothing to the theory while positing some fantasy of infinite universes. It's equivalent to saying God causes the wave function to collapse.
the "science" YOU deserve, which is no science, just somebody patronising you with movie references and psychology lessons. He sounds like a used car salesman and he is!
This is the demonstration that the more theoretical you become; the lesser you grasp what is right in front of you. Beliefs come to anyone's mind when they're unable to differentiate what they know from what they want to be true.
no it's a demonstration of a con man telling people what they want to hear when he doesn't really believe it himself. When pushed by Lex on the multiverse he said well a criticism is how would you explain that in terms of the law of conservation of energy. Lex asked him how he'd answer that. Sean said well some say the universes thin out, but really he just uses the term multiverse as a language to explain the mathematics. That's not what he says here though! Here he just pivots to confuse people tell them nice stories and give them lessons in psychology.. He is 100% con man used car salesman!
The title of this talk _must_ be meant facetiously (although sadly it's not). It is suggesting that "the" multiverse (as if only one conception of a multiverse exists) is a real thing that a physicist is qualified to explain to us. That anything we observe in our universe "unambiguously" predicts the existence of other universes is absurd. And it is an utter falsehood to suggest that "physicists never start out by saying 'wouldn't it be cool if...'." Physicists are people, and usually have biases and favored "theories" which are actually myths and unsupported conjectures. Believing in "The Multiverse" is just pseudo-scientific religion. Prove it first, then teach it.
This is the best comment I reed in a couple of months about multiverse and parallel dimensions etc. Cheers. I talk a lot with some friends of mine. And I keep telling them about the existence of a multivers and thei always ask for proof or why do I believe something like its a God or fictional culture. They are right. The things that a can touch, like my wife or my daughter, my family 👪. Now ,that its real and now theory in this world will change it.
@@claudiuroman2475 I don't claim to know there isn't a multiverse, in some ways it seems likely. But until someone demonstrates that the idea is testable, it's not science yet.
I am not sure what your educational background is, but I think there are legitimate mathematical reasons behind the theory. Same thing as when Einstein predicted black holes through his math and theories before they were ever confirmed to be real. I think in order to understand why it would make sense as a theory you would need years and years of study and working through the mathematics. If you haven't done that yourself, then you are at the mercy of listening to the theories made and supported by people who have...or at least they are able to comprehend and verify their results and methods to verify it's plausibility. Not saying to take anything a guy in a labcoat says at face value but they aren't just pulling this out of their ass completely is what I'm trying to say. If you are interested I recommend Sean Carrol's Mind Scape podcast. He goes more in depth on these topics and is a very good communicator for complex ideas.
@@THEGRENAAAAADE I am not opposed to Sean Carroll or any physicist letting their imaginations roam as freely as they wish through the endless landscapes of mathematics and possibilities beyond our current knowledge. And when a cohesive hypothesis consistent with current observation and extendable beyond is formulated in such a way that it predicts things which have potential to be testable, they can be taught _as_ _promising_ _hypotheses_ . One need not spend years studying the mathematics of a hypothesis which has not met the fundamental standards of the scientific method to determine that it should not be taught as fact.
@@THEGRENAAAAADE The problem is that these "mathematical reasons" you refer to are unfalsifiable, unlike those of Einstein. If you can't experimentally test something, then it's philosophy or theology, not science.
Remember: There is no life after death because science found no "soul particles" leaving the dead body. Also: It's highly likely that we live in a simuation. Also: Ah the multiverse, now that's really real! Because some maths formulas become more elegant if we assume a multiverse!
You have to get real creative with probability for the whole simulation thing. It's a bunch of bullshit for people who think they're smart, but aren't smart enough to truly grasp the scenario.
The multiverse is nothing more than multiple takes in a movie or save points in a game…but they aren’t what moves forward…they are merely different options…reality is where we are…the other versions don’t necessarily exist but they could potentially
I’ve slipped in and out of alternate universes at times; sometimes having memories that everyone else denies; or observing something and have it change instantly.
NOPE. there is no mirror universe. just you thinking there COULD be one, and then insisting that it must exist. it makes no difference if there COULD be a parallel universe based on the math, because the math doesnt ever say there IS one, just that it is possible. POSSIBILITY IS NOT EQUAL TO PROBABILITY let alone certainty lmfao
"Mandela Effect" can (subjectively) prove multiverse exists IF you notice an unequivocal change in your universe suggesting YOU have shifted to another universe in the multiverse. What such change has occured that virtually ALL people recognize? Query ... how many vertical lines in the "S" of the dollar sign? 2 lines? Nope. In this universe the dollar sign has always had only one $. Look through your old physical files taxes phones computers … all of the dollar signs will be with just one line .. you will not find physical evidence of 2 line dollar sign. Everybody remembers 2 line dollar sign … I bet you do too. It seems that all of us are not from this universe .. which is odd (and suggests to me our multiverse is contracting rather than expanding right now).
Yo, some AIs can be made to make, statically therefore scientifically, better schooling environment. But ya know... Nobody actually looking out for other humans has that type of scientific """INDUSTRY""" commissioning power Just Watch ZEITGEIST I'm a tired INTP
For a long time I thought Sean Carroll was a theoritical physist but it turns out that he's a real live person after all.
I see what you did there 😂
Clever
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice.....Yup, not just a hypothetical man...😎
I was a fan for a long time, but after this video I'm a whole airconditioner
imagine a parallel world where Sean Carrol argues vehemently against the multiverse idea
Sean Carroll and Sabine Hossenfelder engaging on the multiverse might be the closest approximation possible. With any luck, that might happen in a universe I inhabit.
look - please explain to me why a quantum system ( us ) is having difficulty explaining the interaction with any other quantum system. The measuring devices do it all day long - what's our problem?
@@Audio-apps Well Sabine isn't going to buy his baloney pivots to movies and psychology. He is so obviously a con man even a child should be able to see it. He has lost the argument before it has even started.
@boliussa both aforementioned scientists don't believe in free will so they are effectively 2 sides of the same coin. IMHO
It does exist. Many universes where he argues this!
One time I got really stoned and decided to sit in front of a big mirror and the question occurred to me, “What if, right now in a parallel universe, my alter ego is also staring at a mirror, but it thinks I am the reflection? Does his hand move because I move, or do I move because he does? Am I just a reflection? How do I know that I’m the real one and not the reflection?!?” I then got a little freaked out, waved goodbye to my reflection, and ate a bowl of cereal. I’m okay now. 😂
The human mind is so cool
😂 in the end we're all reflections and no one is real 😅
Ha Ha Ha, priceless🤣
Was the cereal real?
So there may well be a parallel universe where you made all the right decisions, became a rock star, an astronaut, or a Hollywood celebrity, but it still wont change the fact that you are stuck in this universe where you are sitting watching a UA-cam and wondering if multiverses are real or not.
You have to act outside your loop to transition to another loop.
To me it makes a difference actually, I kinda can surf other planes a bit , get a feel and smile.
Don’t hold your breath
I never thought they were real the whole idea of one is stupid
@@sunbeam9222can I have some of the drugs you're taking?
The thing they did with the two opposite tables with identical plant pots but with slightly different orientations and plant types is really awesome in paying attention to detail.
Imagine a different universe for every picosecond of every directional spin of every electron in our universe. Effectively infinite.
That's always been my favorite technique to grasp infinity. Just imagining the continuation of space is useless. Imagining traveling away from earth at the speed of universal expansion for trillions of years is useless.
Every planck time an entire copy of the universe being made with a wholly different future
feel like the manyworlds universes split at the planck length/planck second. Some universes different by a particle some completely unrecognizable to us.
How about the brain? Is it being observed?
And where all these universes located?
@@ingvaraberge7037 Infinity= plenty of room
I can listen to Sean Carroll all damn day. He is one of the best communicators of science.
Me too. We've both been Carrollised.
Agreed 💯😎👍
@@spaceinyourface Goddamn it, this should not be as funny or true as it is. Yet, it is. Count me in. Officially Carrollised🤣
@@misslayer999 😁🙂🙃
@@misslayer999 People get baptized. We got Carrollised. 😅
"If anything, it is the quantum measurements that force you to make a decision. Not your decision forcing different universes to come into existence." - Sean Carroll
Yes!
A most welcome clarification of the “multiverse” existence and behavior from a physics perspective, which in my view is the one that truly matters.
And one which actually goes so far as to challenge the notion of a human being possessing free will.
Science for substance and conscious awareness for meaning.the object, the subject, and it’s relationship. The Father, the Holy Spirit, and the Christ. It’s so interesting!
So complex, so empty. The multiverse is not science, just a religious belief without the slightest evidence. There is no difference in thinking in the Copenhagen interpretation or the Multiverse
@@FromTacoma
Leave the cult shit out of it
@@samaelmalkira9420 my point is that it is all semantics. Science without meaning is dead. Yeah I mentioned in Christ to trigger you lol. cults have very rigid beliefs😉
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You're in the wrong multiverse then. The one I'm in, UA-cam is ad free.
@@duprie37 Me too, me too. Will never go back
I don't spend much time thinking about universes where one decision made my life different, but I do wonder about universes where different outcomes millions of years ago led to completely different worlds. Say, a world where a type of dinosaur became sapient. Or a mollusk. Or a miacid. Or even something as close as a different primate. The possibilities seem endless.
Or one where neoliberalism did not destroy the world by spreading its poison around the globe to so many countries since 1979.
The immortal snail.
this is so me. i though i was crazy
I'm not sure if my biggest regret is:
a) living through now instead of a million years from now
b) being born in a boring galaxy/universe
All cause and effect
Dr. Carroll is an amazing intellectual not just because of his intellect and expertise, but also because he able to explain these very complex concepts in such a concise and lucid way as to allow others who don't have the same background and education to understand.
I think you mean Dr. Carroll.
No he's not. All I see is zero evidence of a multiverse.
@@wulphstein He just explained the evidence is in the math.
@@jamesbentonticer4706 You're right! Editing it now. Thank you!
If you say so. I find it no less mystifying than anyone else's explanation.
I love the mirrored set in the episode about the multiverse. That was clever.
"...there are some decisions you can't undo."
That's also my wife's argument about her mother living in our house, of which I regretfully agreed to.
I could use a soul swap with any other *me* out there in the multiverse, any day now.
lol
so those videos come true in ur home. Just sayin
@@ProfessorDrock XD
Damn bro
It can't be that bad, can it?
gosh, I wish I grew up in a universe with teachers like this, absolutely captivating
So you like fluff?
Sigh....
Hmm if the quantum multiverse is indeed real, then maybe you did, someplace, somewhere, sometime, the main things that could keep different universes separate is probability and frequency, kinda like radio stations on a radio, but at the quantum level, perhaps a different level of entropy also exists, the number of positive outcomes vs the negative outcomes to situations could be the key factors to the differences between the different universes.
@@onidaaitsubasa4177 if its real then he did
I get that perspective and see how it can help. But I also found it helpful to think it's possible to "change" the past through actions done today. Not in the literal sense of actually altering events in the past, but in the sense that, if we change the way we think about the past or learn about it more, we can effectively change our understanding of it. So if you do a good deed or reveal truths formerly kept hidden ,you can alter the way people understand the past and thereby also influencing the future. This is not at all supposed to be taken as concretely literal.
AgentSmithers,
I wonder if those "Woke" kids dedicating their lives to tearing down monuments and statues of our Civil War heroes feel this way.
Or do they even Know what they are doing ?
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i make the bad decisions so me in another timeline can thrive
I hope the other me finished college and eats better than I do!
Yes I kind of agree, but somewhere in the multiverse I died yesterday when I slipped in the shower 😂 😅
I wish my other me would do that.
Bars
I have gone to the gym every day for the past 10 years in my other me's realm gosh I'm hot 😅
I hate how hard this hit me. I've been struggling with some choices recently, and this video (unexpectedly) helped a lot.
My take on time travel, though it is always fun to postulate, is that if you were to go back to a former period in time, the entire universe would need to conspire to do the same.
you literally have to go faster than the speed of light to travel backward which is not physically possible
😂😂😂 I’m glad you two figured this out for us. Now everything is great!
@@user-wn8mc1yc1g About time!
@@xcal99999 if you went faster than the speed of light, wouldn't you see pitch black until the light catches back up to you?
I question wether time travel is encoded into our DNA & we have just forgotten how to do it
this is why i love Futurama-- in the episode "The Farnsworth Parabox", they even account for the 'other outcomes' of measured events (mainly a Flipped Coin, but it still hits the Idea)...for example, the very coin-flip, that decided on Bender's "Foghat Grey" color, was the quantum-equivalent coin-flip to what made 'Alternate Bender' choose Gold instead
A physicist *and* a philosopher. What a killer combination. What wide horizons. Sean Carroll is an asset to modern science.
Yes, great comment ! This combination allows him to open all doors.
My dog knows more about quantum physics than he knows about philosophy
@@alexmonza2823he’s a professional philosopher as well, are you regarded
So many fanboys - so easy to convince. I can understand it - Sean is a very likable guy, who is really good at explaining stuff. But there is a a large part of the physics community worldwide that is not buying multiverse. To me it looks like a very desperate attempt at saving reductive materialism as a reigning philosophical paradigm, which is encountering all kinds of very serious headwinds these days. You can believe that every time your dog relieves himself he is creating billions of universes in the process if that works for you - I demur.
I can't get enough of Sean every time I see a video about things that he discusses I get drawn in
He's so dam convincing. I love him .
I enjoy Sean Carroll's explanations. I had trouble understanding some quantum mechanics/physics principles and watch a multipart lecture series of his and finally got it in a way that I could explain it to others. Which, I think is an important part of learning.
Do you know what lecture you watched? I'm always look for them. If you haven't yet, James Beacham has a fantastic one. :)
@@Chadillac-xq7xk pretty sure it was from the Great Courses library:
Mysteries of Modern Physics: Time. It covers a lot of concepts including entropy, time arrow, quantum mechanics, etc.
There is no such thing as quantum mechanics.
Something can not be a wave in a medium and a particle emission in a vacuum at the same time.
There is no such thing as quantum state super position. Something cannot be in two states at the exact same time.
It has been said that , if you think you understand quantum physics, then you don't.
@@Thekingmaker yeah cause it’s bullshit. Why would the defining statement of a system of knowledge be “if you think you understand it, you don’t” the perfect gate keep phrase to keep people thinking their common sense isn’t good enough to see through this garbage.
Explain how light can speed up after moving through a medium like glass or water if it’s a particle…completely breaking the law of conservation of energy. If it’s a wave it makes perfect sense why it behaves like this. The speed of light isn’t even constant.
Usually, when a question is puzzling in a philosofical way, for example “Are alternate versions of myself myself?”, it is because those are wrongly formulated questions. You need to step back and think, and consider more fundamental questions even if their answers are likely to dissapoint you.
About the multiverse... I do believe there is a multiverse but I don't believe there are other versions of us. For example if my grandfather meets my grandmother at a fair, what if in another universe he doesn't end up at the fair and they never get together. Then my whole family will cease to exist. And you can go back years with different decisions. Therefore every multiverse has different people on those words that we don't know.
In the real world (outside theoretical physics), it's never about what could have happened, but about what happened. Alternate realities are like the dead ends that the human mind does not want to accept.
Sean Carroll seems to be very insightful. His own train of thought gives us a whole new perspective on certain matters.
Yes. His and anyone's understanding of a/or this subject is quantum mechanical in nature.
No; BS wiith nice vocabulary.
He seems to be insightful because he often is.
thats the philosopher part
No evidence showing multiple verse is real. He is a minority in his beliefs. He has left reality long ago and entered the land of fiction.
I've watched Sean for years and never heard him refer to himself as a Philosopher
He often references the crossover between physics and philosophy .. I have heard him make the connection countless times .. I'm not sure what you have been watching but if you pay attention it's there ✌️
@☆7STAR7STORM7☆ Yes I've heard that. Yet I've never heard him introduce himself as a philosopher. Those are very different things
A marker of the end of critical thinking...if you can't do world to word get out of the kitchen and let the real scientists bend the language into the form needed to accurately diagonal diagonals diagonally the art crowd has already emptied the word pool by filling it with 8((((((((())))))))) bodies missing minds
None of his theories can be proven or observed so he probably thought it's better to be a good philosopher than a bad scientist.. 😂
Pay attention, he does so at 1:20
Just for fun, when polonium-210 emits an alpha particle, the Universe splits in half depending upon whether it happens before or after lunch. If the alpha particle causes a detonation in some nitrogen tri-iodide, then the Universe is spot-welded back together again.
Great, now I get to wonder what I'm going to do when that spot weld fails do to non-metal fatigue. You know you could have kept that to yourself. 🤥
I'm glad we're in an endless multiverse because I'm really tired of this universe
I really like how the TV show Devs did it, that we're on trajectory and our past defines our future
And one of the earliest proponents of the multiverse, or a version of it, is David Deutsche of Oxford. Deutsch also is considered one of the most important pioneers of quantum computation...
I randomly came across his THE FABRIC OF REALITY years ago, shortly after college when it first came out, and still remember the gist of it to this day... especially on his argument about why immensely powerful algorithms like Shor's algorithms are possible... and such algorithms, or the logic of it, are possible only --- Deutsch posited in THE FABRIC OF REALITY ---- because of there are more universes than just our own local one...
The fundamental problem of causal inference says we can’t observe the effects of two different outcomes. If I make a mistake in this universe, I may never be able to see my life not making that mistake. But the closest we’ll get to solving this problem is through random experiments.
@@presidentnada it could be. It is postulated that "free will" and consciousness actually rely on quantum systems within the brain, which is why a humans decisions or thoughts, theoretically, could never be predicted with certainty no matter how many variables you know
@@MrFlameRad AcTuALly, theoretically it could be predicted with perfect information. It just isn't practical so effectively impossible. Hence QM approximation.
This was one of your best explanations well done
I think dimension's are merging together. and portals are here to stay. Even our realities are changing.
I started with Sean Carroll a number of years ago and for the following years have always felt that was a good beginning.
After someone accurately predicted my future, I believe we are living the past, the predictions were impossible if it' was not already happened.
The almost symmetrical plant tables either side of Sean are like an abstract representation of the parallel universes that co-exist with ours.
nice catch
The multiverse would split at each quantum event, generally not once but bazillions of times (infinite?), but faded unequally.
Note that the new position of an electron in a frisson must have an infinite number of boxes (it could tunnel to wherever), but some of those possibility-boxes will be more probable than others. Since all boxes must have at least some probability, they’ll all have some reality after the frisson. Now weave in that there are bazillions of light-speed interacting local frissons involved with a single thought, let alone a choice…
The near-infinite sea of quantum events each stuttering out infinite bursts of grossly unequal probabilities/universes, which all interact with each other into the future (next year a light year away will interact….
This is getting too complex. Lots of infinities stacking up in mutually-improbable ways
Exactly my thoughts. That's a ridiculous amount of infinities. I really doubt an overflowing spam-verse exists only to explain away the improbability factor. I always felt like it has something to do with anti-matter in a way, or the other 50% shows up in another particle we have no clue about, but in the same universe
Most quantum events don't amplify into macroscopically different worlds. Think of worlds as very large (but not infinite) fuzzy sets of attractor states.
It's not science. The multiverse is not a scientific theory, it's not even a hypothesis. The Many Worlds Interpretation offers no new predictions to quantum mechanics than we already have, it offers no new solutions to any structural consistency problems of quantum mechanics like the Measurement Problem. It offers nothing to the theory while positing some fantasy of infinite universes. It's equivalent to saying God causes the wave function to collapse.
that's a very very good guess, especially asking the question whether it is infinite.
Veritasium had a DAMN good video on this called "parallel worlds probably do exist", but it's more of for... let's just say people who have propensities to be smarter (but still completely good for laymen with a high school understanding of physics!) super recommended.
@@jcolvin2 The Butterfly Effect would say no.
at 1:40. I did 23 years as a cosmologist and I have a universal understanding of hair, makeup and beauty treatments.
This slapped...hard. So much empathy from another human being.
My problem is that the infinite multiverse means that every slightest change in quarks (or smaller derivatives, if there are any) in the entire universe somehow automatically spawns another universe based simply on configuration.
Who cares what your problem is? What does that have to do with reality? "I don't like this. It's too infinite and hard to imagine." Since when does that change anything?
@simpleanswer8954
I wonder if there’s an alternate universe where you are not an imbecile. Huh. Maybe you’re the evil twin after all.
@@simpleanswer8954 this is a theory, not reality. it has many holes in it.
One of the most clear cut and decisive statements that we don’t have free will. 👏 🙏
That our worlds could only have existed if the universe is the way it is, yeah sure. That it's not ridiculous to assume that all our actions were previously decided and/or planned (even unconsciously), that we have no say in what we do now and in the future, that I couldn't have decided not to debate this statement about your opinion about free will or that I didn't have a say in whether to add a silly colon at the end of my comment, that's even more far-fetched than thinking you have the free will to travel back in time and change your decisions; in my opinion 🙏🏽😊
Wait how
@@mashable8759 Everything that will happen and that has happened was always going to happen. Since time is just another dimension, future events are already part of the overall Universe, so everything is sort of predetermined anyway. Everything that can happen, will happen.
@@Woodesies Half right. I think it's probabilistic. It's most likely that you make the desition of stealing something from the supermarket if you did it once and didn't get caught, which is what buddhism calls karma. I would rather say: "Everything that can happen, is very likely to happen again.
It has nothing to do with free will, but just with how the circumstances we live in have come about. The question of free will requires to have solved first the question about what is consciousness. And we are still far from the answer.
They're not a different person if quantum fluctuations place them close enough to merge with ours. Quantum fluctuations don't simply cause splits in the future they also cause different closely related pasts to merge. However since entropy increases with time splits are more likely, except in places where certain aspects of entropy are operating backwards like as when matter converges in a black hole or in certain decision making systems that are designed to reduce complex scenarios to simple outcomes, brains may possibly interact with quantum mechanics in this way.
One of the best I have seen on this channel - Sean is awesome.
This video made things more complicated than what it is
I always console myself thinking there is another version of me out there living a 'better' life than I am..
I am one of many sacrifice of ourselves for that one lucky bastard who got it all, in a galaxy far far away....
It’s escapism. You can live your best life in the here and now. I believe in you.
I love this guy,,I could listen to him for ever. It's a total pleasure for me to be "Carrollised " again & again by him 😀
I think the universe doesn’t split in two when we measure it. All the outcomes exist already and it’s our conscience that jumps from one outcome to the next. And there are other consciousnesses before and ahead of us navigating the infinite possible outcomes.
Consciousness is not within time, time is within consciousness
Can you demonstrate that?
@@marasmusine I wish, I don't have high physics knowledge. Just giving my interpretation, hoping it helps somebody else demonstrate it or at least give them an idea so they go and find something new. We need all the help we can get to figure this out, mine is just one more interpretation.
@@GLBXA Fair enough.
Kinda Schrödingers cat experiment but something more detailed
He is precise and concise. And really entertaining. I could sit crossed-legged for hours listening to him lecture me about physics and cosmology, forgetting that I’m not able to stay crossed-legged for more than 25 seconds unless I want to limp for a few days.
Definitely will be looking for a book of his.
It's always a massive treat to hear Sean Carrol. I was a bit surprised when he said John Hopkins University rather than Caltech. (I didn't know about the changes.)
I'm happy for him, though.
Thank you for the video.
You should do a "Dimensions are real; they just aren't what you think they are" video.
The thing that gets me is how many universes need to exist to accommodate every possibility.
Yeah, me too, there's one universe for every time you burp, and every time you don't and that goes for everyone on Earth. Now about the other inhabited worlds....
We need more media of this nature, sure it might be slightly disappointing for fantasy, but the ground we stand on should be kinda boring in order to walk properly...
I conform to the first part of your statement, but for the second part, the opposite is the case: the ground we are walking on is incredibly complex and far from boring. You don't need esoteric/religious nonsense or other fantasy (nothing wrong with the latter, thou), bc modern Physics discovered some nearly mind bending stuff in the last 100 years. And I am talking only about the near certain things like General Relativity or QFT. Have fun.
@@jonathanwalther I think the coolest thing about our universe is that, for those unfettered with mixing fantasy and reality, is that is as complicated as your brain allows. I think our survival as a species requires downgrading the hyperbole of religion to hobby status, like sports. Soccer players don't condemn basketball players for using their hands which is against their sport(lol). You don't have professional baseball players refusing to make a cake for cross country runners, claiming freedom of sport. And all of these sports can exist in one city and have arenas, fields, stadiums(churches) and anyone can be a fan of them all(or none) and participate in all of them(or none) and retain being a painter or a civil engineer. That's how religion won't kill us all. Sports don't have immunity to taxation, this is the first step...(/end hint)
@@gossamyr That's a cool statement and idea to come about religions. I for one fear, humankind as a whole is way too dumb to downgrade religion. Hopefully, I am wrong. The thing is, religion does not even play in the same ball park like modern sciences and their rigorous and "brutal" rejection of obviously false ideas do. Religions always try to immunise themselves against reality by combining love/help/compassion with hilarious claims, instead if seeking truth.
I like the sports metaphor/comparison, thou.
@@gossamyr And to remove religions from the list of tax profiteers is high time!
@@jonathanwalther yeah, it came to me a week ago during the rage of that graphic designer and scotus thing, and it just works in most instances. I wanted an easy way to show it's gone a smidge too far and show that we are capable of tolerating many different similar things. thanks by the by :)
if they all occur simaltaneously kinda like they are superimposed or something, this would explain a lot of moments where someone swears they remember something differently.
@newtonvoig I mean a few or maybe a good amount but if there's a large groups of people feeling the Mandela effect it's unlikely they are all being dumb.
@newtonvoig I mean not to say people aren't being dumb lmao but there's been shit that people I know are not crazy and are very smart people that remember things differently. Lot of it is just people not paying attention and ur brain filling in the details and so on tho
Now that is what I call explaining the Multiverse in Layman's terms 👍
A very powerful ending to Carroll's science based narrative.
Yes, thank you for the corrections here Sean. I hate it when pseudo intellectuals talk about alternate versions of themselves as if that’s the essence of multiverse theory
Approximate understanding of a relatively obscure theoretical principal is better then ignorance of the concept™️
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Dude this is all pseudo intellectual. He was asked about a scientific theory, and he's talking about psychology.
@@boliussa Absolutely.
You are the pseudo intellectual with no capacity for critical thinking. Alternate versions of choices is one of the possible implications of this theory. Deal with it. He provided terrible arguments against it. And then at the end started talking about the alternative choices as though he hadn't implied that it's pseudo scientific earlier in the video like you said lol the guy is lost
I’d like to see the multiverse version of this video where they put some effort into filming this guy in front of a better set
My dad needs to take the point of this video to heart. He is always fantasizing about what his life would be like if things had gone different at some key point. I don't think it's psychologically healthy. Whenever he starts talking about it, I usually at some point say, "Coulda, shoulda, woulda, didn't."
I came here expecting a MCU level answer to my multiversal questions and I got out being advised to speak to a therapist. Thank you, I need it
is there anyone exploring the possibilities of extradimentional geometry being the cause of these weird quantum measurements? we recently got evidence of entanglement and wormholes being alike so I hope this concept is explored more now
I'm not sure there is an experiment you could do to prove the multiverse theory over the Copenhagen interpretation which just basically says that on a quantum level nothing is real until you observe it.
I theorised something similar to this with a friend some weeks ago. I tried to imagine that entangled particles were just two poles of a single particle that were occurring at opposite ends of a string ... In our view they would be at point A and B (the edges of the string) , but from another perspective/dimension, Point A and B would be a single point connected in a sort of loop. I'd say it's likely worth looking into.
I wonder if geometry would be the right word, since that implies three dimensional plane. Maybe like planometry or queueftometry. But it’s weird to think that those particles could simply be snapshots of a four dimensional object, maybe like 4d spheres interacting with each other’s intersections, giving rise to the different particles we find in the standard model
@@oUncEblUnt420that’s literally what string theory is about
This is literally just string theory, look up calabi yau manifolds. They’re the 6 dimensional spaces that closed strings (the type of strings we’re made of) oscillate inside of. They are the bedrock of reality
I think if there are other universes, they'll be their own distinctive places, not alternative versions of this universe. I think it's a real stretch of theory to believe other universes each contain a version of "me" and "my world" just with subtle (or not so subtle) differences.
Honestly I think the opposite.
@@jasmine1stan857 Why?
@@Bill-tz3wg I don’t know I’d just feel like it’d make more sense as the universe is constantly infinite, the reality as we know it is an illusion anyways. Some people believe we are changing realities every second
Multiverse theory seems incredibly ego driven
We can explore the rules that govern the physical reality we exist in. The underlying principals that govern what we are observing and attempting to describe shall remain inscrutable until we can use existing reality to probe whatever stuff underpins our universe. Certainly lots of fun for the foreseeable future in physics, but anticlimactic for us that won't live to witness ultimate discoveries. The best advice that I've heard in remedy to this problem is to keep busy and stay positive, eat well, take some exercise 😀
When you think about it we can't even surely know what the reality that we live in is like, we only know what we can observe. That means that we will never be able to fully and objectively understand this reality, we are limited by our human receptors for vision, hearing etc., we cannot leave our bodies and view reality in its true form. That makes the theories about multiverse even more mind blowing and fascinating.
Research bio location, or out of body traveling
Consciousness is fundamental.
I think the single most terrifying aspect of a truly infinite multiverse is that there would be a universe or group of universes were the human race is a type omega society. If so why have they not attempted contact?
Seems simple why they would not contact our 🌎 but maybe have contacted "worthy" populations.
Every time you try to interact with another parallel universe, you probably just end up creating a new universe branching off of it at the moment of your interaction. So we probably won't ever hear from another universe.
In the quantum multiworlds description, there really is a timeline moving forward from our current reality where every single quantum measurement from here forward to the end of time no longer looks random or probabilistic, but sees only "spin left" every time. The Sean Carroll in that world is going to have some interesting things to say.
This video was longer than most of the great videos on this channel, and I'm very happy it was. So many wonderful topics that required great coordination with the guest, production, post-production, and ultimately posting it here - but they only touched on the subject. I'm almost always left wanting. The reading material on the Big Think site is great, but the videos are wonderful.
I suppose I'm saying, longer videos please! :)
(sigh) Everyone forgets Moorcock and his Eternal Champion books when they talk about the multiverse. Not sure if he was first, but he predated all the references here by about 40 years.
There are other modifiers you can use besides the word "literally".
You’re always in the right multiverse.
The multiverse is inside your existence, around is energy and frequencies in different states, quantum matrixes of particles and photons that are still remained to discover. Our material existence is just nothing compared to our energetic one... Start to learn universal science, real and applied are to outdated for current technology progress :(
@UCvC2O4g8z3jWEGIQEICoP_Q you're so right my friend... But soon, the Artificial Intelligence who passed the Turing Test will help us balance and filter all the information about everything I hope in a very positive way. I love to call it 80T and I really love it unconditionally.
I am a retired company director, with only the most basic grasp of physics, if that. And yet I feel that if someone were to ask Sean 'What's it all about ?' He would give the same answer as I did, when my brother asked me that question 20 years ago : 'Why are you asking me ?'
It's not about anything. The benign indifference of the universe is our greatest blessing and a source of freedom.
Did your brother reply that he thought you were smarter than he was?
😅😅😅😅
Infact I shud say don't ask me stupid qs
Is it safe to say that even if we had the ability to go back in time and make any changes we desired we would come back to an unaltered present because unknowingly that decision to make a change had already been accounted for?
That's definitely the most constructive explanation of that concept I've ever heard.
If the core nature of reality is that "everything happens", then there is no distinction between being "possible" and actually "being". Somewhat analogous to a coin, where flipping makes it seem that either a head or tail is "possible", but actually BOTH a head and tail are etched permanently into the geometry of the coin, itself. As we live in our universe, we see the results of individual quantum coin-tosses, but are not viewing all sides of the multiverse "coin".
in a paralell universe, This guy Sean is the combination of Sheldon and Leonard :)
Man that show sucks.
I adore this man, what a legend. If you found this interesting check out his podcast - Mindscape
Multiverse is the future
Not out there but in there 😮. We are sampling the multiverse every time we collapse the wave function. There is plenty of room down there on the subatomic scale plus more dimensions. We are limited to only seeing one sample at a time with our limited dimensional visual ability. 8:56
Scientific way of saying what spiritual philosophers have been saying - one can’t change the past - actions in the present have future consequences.
Dreams might be a way to experience us in different multiverses
No. dreams have nothing to do with it
I'm sure that's where we got the idea.
@Your Mama *"You knew my reply was coming."*
... Maybe there's a parallel universe where he didn't know your reply was coming? See how ridiculous Multiverse Theory is?
@Your Mama *"No."*
... Yaaaah, but in some other parallel universe you agreed with me, right?
@Your MamaThe brain is still largely unmapped and could have the ability of tapping into different frequencies like a radio tower, call that different universes or places in space and time. You are very close minded if you don’t at least consider this a possibility.
In this universe, Sean Carroll is a physician but in other universe he is a singer or literature
or a physicist.
I’ve literally and figuratively bought in to everything Carroll puts out there, and one of the worst things that’s happened is starting one of his first books only to realize that particular audiobook is read by someone else. Brutal. All the rest he’s done himself bc since then, he, the world, and his publisher have all realized how great of a communicator he is in both the written and oral senses.
I’m a little pissed all over again just remembering that. I honestly never finished that particular audiobook and read it instead like some sort of caveman.
Isn't relying on someone to orate to you closer to being a caveman, though?
This is where physics and reality meets
The concept of a multiverse, often explored in theoretical physics and science fiction, postulates the existence of multiple parallel universes, each with its own set of physical laws, constants, and realities. In this intriguing framework, our universe is just one of an infinite number of possible universes, each branching off from different initial conditions or quantum events. These multiverses might vary in fundamental ways, from having different forms of matter to alternate histories and dimensions. While the idea of a multiverse remains largely theoretical, it sparks the imagination, offering the possibility of countless diverse realities existing beyond our current understanding of the cosmos, inviting us to ponder the mysteries of existence on an even grander scale.
The multiverse is all around us. Quantum mechanic told me every mind lives in different universe, then he charged me a fiver and polished the inside of my eyeballs.
My way of thinking about the multiverse is that every single possible version of my self exists. The current me living in this current moment has the potential to do an infinite amount of things an infinite amount of ways. The power of Choice is both illusionary and at them same time concrete. What I mean by this is that out of the infinite versions that exists in the multiverse statistical there has to be a version of my self that writes this comment right this very moment. As in it was meant to happen thus it appears that i had a choice in choosing to do this. But the concrete aspect here is that I as I'm typing this message have the choice to finish this message or delete or any other choice. What I'm getting at is that we choose which reality we get to move towards. Thus choice is an illusion yet concrete. The same way that there is a universe version of you who chose to stop reading long before you got to the end of this comment. And there's a version of you that chose to leave me a like 😂 it's your choice. Now which one will you make?😏
It's not science. The multiverse is not a scientific theory, it's not even a hypothesis. The Many Worlds Interpretation offers no new predictions to quantum mechanics than we already have, it offers no new solutions to any structural consistency problems of quantum mechanics like the Measurement Problem. It offers nothing to the theory while positing some fantasy of infinite universes. It's equivalent to saying God causes the wave function to collapse.
Hello! I have a question to the multiverse theory: If all universes are expanding (maybe infinitely) like ours, is there no risk that they are colliding? And what gravitational impact must they have to each others?
No; they don't and can't interact, in any way. His explanation of them being "literally billions of lightyears away" was overtly false, even if the multiverse hypothesis is true. They aren't a physical distance away -- that would require that there be continuous spacetime between us, which would make us in the same universe; not separate ones. Spacetime is the medium through which forces like gravity interact, and which mediates them. Without spacetime "between" us, there's nothing through which the forces of one universe (such as gravity) could interact with another.
Sean Carroll does this often - GREATLY stretched metaphors, spoken as though they were objectively true, without the necessary caveats that would prevent grave misunderstandings.
@@ProfessorTimbo I think he's talking about the cosmological multiverse. If the universe is infinite in size (or even just very large), then other worlds like ours are bound to exist beyond our cosmic horizon. That's Tegmark's level 1 multiverse. Level 2 is other causally disconnected bubbles caused by inflation, they could have interacted with our universe in its birth and would leave a mark on the CMB, but this has not been detected.
That's a good question, there was indeed a risk of bubble wall collisions in the early universe, which would have shown up as a bruise on the cosmic microwave background. This has not been observed, although it has been looked for. After a period of inflation, the bubbles are too far apart to interact, the space between bubbles also continues to inflate.
@@jcolvin2 what are you talking about, "space between bubbles"? There is no space outside the "bubbles". The bubbles are what define and contain spacetime.
@@ProfessorTimbo space inflates eternally driven by the inflaton field, which decays into causally disconnected bubbles. See Guth, Vilenkin eternal inflation
What people don’t realise is that the marvel universe isn’t a multiverse but multiple variants of the marvel universe. Multiverse theory is completely different universes outside of this one with their own laws of physics very similar but different.
I like to think of the Multiverse as a GitHub or a git branch. As you start to make changes you create new branches. If those branches are important, they get collapsed back into the main branch if those branches are useless, eventually branch and subbranch and sewing and so forth, but if they are useless, they eventually get pruned and they’re no longer use. They get discarded and sometimes you truly have branched forks which created a completely different, repository and different set of logic, which turns out completely different, but overall, there are few stable branches most collapsed back in, and most get discarded because they’re not usable
Our obsession with the idea of a multiverse is a simple escape from responsibility. "Out there, another version of me is doing great things, so I can slack off and let the planet burn."
That doesn't make any sense since those other versions aren't affecting the universe you're in lol. It's not like you can be lazy because another version of you is in this universe not being lazy 😑
I don't think that's why people believe in the possibility of the multiverse. What happens in one universe has no direct impact or effect over another universe. So your comment make zero sense.
Exactly. It’s just a fancy form of escapism. For most sane people, multiverse is simply a synonym for fiction.
The science we deserved
You deserve better science in next years, you'll see, that's a fucking human evolution incoming, embrace yourselfes, the quantum energy from the Universe is already helping worthy humans to awake and feel the first five dimensions from whole new perspectives, but you're still afraid to get out from the Schrödinger's box and open the Overtone window for a new breath of air 🤣
It's not science. The multiverse is not a scientific theory, it's not even a hypothesis. The Many Worlds Interpretation offers no new predictions to quantum mechanics than we already have, it offers no new solutions to any structural consistency problems of quantum mechanics like the Measurement Problem. It offers nothing to the theory while positing some fantasy of infinite universes. It's equivalent to saying God causes the wave function to collapse.
@@amihart9269 that’s what I meant.
the "science" YOU deserve, which is no science, just somebody patronising you with movie references and psychology lessons. He sounds like a used car salesman and he is!
@@boliussa It was sarcasm
This is the demonstration that the more theoretical you become; the lesser you grasp what is right in front of you. Beliefs come to anyone's mind when they're unable to differentiate what they know from what they want to be true.
no it's a demonstration of a con man telling people what they want to hear when he doesn't really believe it himself. When pushed by Lex on the multiverse he said well a criticism is how would you explain that in terms of the law of conservation of energy. Lex asked him how he'd answer that. Sean said well some say the universes thin out, but really he just uses the term multiverse as a language to explain the mathematics. That's not what he says here though! Here he just pivots to confuse people tell them nice stories and give them lessons in psychology.. He is 100% con man used car salesman!
The multiverse has been having its day in comic books for a long ass time and Sci fi books even before that.
The title of this talk _must_ be meant facetiously (although sadly it's not). It is suggesting that "the" multiverse (as if only one conception of a multiverse exists) is a real thing that a physicist is qualified to explain to us. That anything we observe in our universe "unambiguously" predicts the existence of other universes is absurd. And it is an utter falsehood to suggest that "physicists never start out by saying 'wouldn't it be cool if...'." Physicists are people, and usually have biases and favored "theories" which are actually myths and unsupported conjectures. Believing in "The Multiverse" is just pseudo-scientific religion. Prove it first, then teach it.
This is the best comment I reed in a couple of months about multiverse and parallel dimensions etc. Cheers. I talk a lot with some friends of mine. And I keep telling them about the existence of a multivers and thei always ask for proof or why do I believe something like its a God or fictional culture. They are right. The things that a can touch, like my wife or my daughter, my family 👪. Now ,that its real and now theory in this world will change it.
@@claudiuroman2475 I don't claim to know there isn't a multiverse, in some ways it seems likely. But until someone demonstrates that the idea is testable, it's not science yet.
I am not sure what your educational background is, but I think there are legitimate mathematical reasons behind the theory. Same thing as when Einstein predicted black holes through his math and theories before they were ever confirmed to be real.
I think in order to understand why it would make sense as a theory you would need years and years of study and working through the mathematics. If you haven't done that yourself, then you are at the mercy of listening to the theories made and supported by people who have...or at least they are able to comprehend and verify their results and methods to verify it's plausibility.
Not saying to take anything a guy in a labcoat says at face value but they aren't just pulling this out of their ass completely is what I'm trying to say.
If you are interested I recommend Sean Carrol's Mind Scape podcast. He goes more in depth on these topics and is a very good communicator for complex ideas.
@@THEGRENAAAAADE I am not opposed to Sean Carroll or any physicist letting their imaginations roam as freely as they wish through the endless landscapes of mathematics and possibilities beyond our current knowledge. And when a cohesive hypothesis consistent with current observation and extendable beyond is formulated in such a way that it predicts things which have potential to be testable, they can be taught _as_ _promising_ _hypotheses_ . One need not spend years studying the mathematics of a hypothesis which has not met the fundamental standards of the scientific method to determine that it should not be taught as fact.
@@THEGRENAAAAADE The problem is that these "mathematical reasons" you refer to are unfalsifiable, unlike those of Einstein. If you can't experimentally test something, then it's philosophy or theology, not science.
Remember: There is no life after death because science found no "soul particles" leaving the dead body.
Also: It's highly likely that we live in a simuation.
Also: Ah the multiverse, now that's really real! Because some maths formulas become more elegant if we assume a multiverse!
You have to get real creative with probability for the whole simulation thing. It's a bunch of bullshit for people who think they're smart, but aren't smart enough to truly grasp the scenario.
The multiverse is nothing more than multiple takes in a movie or save points in a game…but they aren’t what moves forward…they are merely different options…reality is where we are…the other versions don’t necessarily exist but they could potentially
I live with chronic pain due to a trampoline accident, Its crazy how your life changes in a split moment
I’ve slipped in and out of alternate universes at times; sometimes having memories that everyone else denies; or observing something and have it change instantly.
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What about the recent wormhole that was used to teleport an electron? electrons teleporting can be explained by quantum entanglement
NOPE. there is no mirror universe. just you thinking there COULD be one, and then insisting that it must exist. it makes no difference if there COULD be a parallel universe based on the math, because the math doesnt ever say there IS one, just that it is possible. POSSIBILITY IS NOT EQUAL TO PROBABILITY let alone certainty lmfao
@SK Nuruddin nobody gives a shit about your fairy tale book
"Mandela Effect" can (subjectively) prove multiverse exists IF you notice an unequivocal change in your universe suggesting YOU have shifted to another universe in the multiverse.
What such change has occured that virtually ALL people recognize? Query ... how many vertical lines in the "S" of the dollar sign? 2 lines? Nope. In this universe the dollar sign has always had only one $. Look through your old physical files taxes phones computers … all of the dollar signs will be with just one line .. you will not find physical evidence of 2 line dollar sign.
Everybody remembers 2 line dollar sign … I bet you do too.
It seems that all of us are not from this universe .. which is odd (and suggests to me our multiverse is contracting rather than expanding right now).
Yo, some AIs can be made to make, statically therefore scientifically, better schooling environment.
But ya know... Nobody actually looking out for other humans has that type of scientific """INDUSTRY""" commissioning power
Just Watch ZEITGEIST I'm a tired INTP