Loving the talking content if you could keep putting out tips like this and taking about diet that would be amazing along with the training content keep killing it. If you can no worries man still appreciate you putting out vids regardless
It's eccentric not decentric. You're drastically overthinking it, Full ROM until you cant, then lengthened partials until you can't. Or just drop set and continue with full ROM until you can't.
great video, I have tried training like mike menzer for 2 months 3 times a week but the true failure was so annoying to reach because I had to ask people to help every time I do my 1 set.
I think with dips this might be difficult it’s a bit of a compound injury is a huge issue if you’ve got people pushing you up to slowly come down your shoulders triceps and chest isn’t just a muscle joints might get in the way more for what he showed which is machines and safe exercises. As he mentioned with the squats. Bench deadlift dips squats and other like barbell movements probably not the best to use this method with
@marcusbrownyeah say your target rep for a set is 10. do you do your 10 reps within the 1st step of failure or go to about 5 and failing and then do assisted reps?
You're not hitting failure on deadlifts lets be real. You'll do a 1RM sure but you'll faint before you can take it this far on a working set. Same problem with the other compounds. Hell Smolov Jr the fastest way of putting weight on the compounds doesn't go above 85% for sets of 3.
@@xx-----------xx873 But aside from compounds, say ur doing a set of incline machine press, and your training solely to maximise hypertrophy, should you go to failure on all your sets to actually improve and progressively overload that lift, or is it better to leave some reps in reserve?
@@rockld122 I'm a man of anecdotes, but I don't think you need to go this far. Concentric failure with a drop set to concentric failure would do 90% of what this would do. However, sometimes I get really hyped for a lift, so I'll take it to partials then eccentric. At that point I'm so light headed I stop, I don't take it close to as far as the lad in the video. Base it off your recovery. If you're in a 1k per day surplus you can maybe get away with this and see week on week gains. At 200 surplus probably not, on a cut lol no you'd be dead for a fortnight.
@@xx-----------xx873 oh yeah no way could u go this far every set, I meant concentric failure only, should u try to hit that every set or should you leave some reps.
send me a bloodwork test and I'll prove it.. im not paying for one however just to prove to people who i dont really mind if they believe me or not hahah
Marcus how do you track this though? How do you progressively overload this because you cant really track the reps due to the concentric failure then decentric and so on? cheers mate
Going to failure means you don't really care about weight or numbers, just how close to 0% can you go. If you care about strength you could do a normal set and then do this as a second set. Good luck eating enough for that.
yes but when you train til failure how do you know when to up the weight. If you take yourself til absolute 0 on a certain weight. How many times do you do that until u have to progress overtime? @@xx-----------xx873
I know from personal experience that when you are a beginner the burning senasation on a set is failure but when you mature enough failure real failure is when you feel pain and want to just give up stop training just go home it just hurts insanely. There is no word that can describe this ugly disgusting pain and doing only the concentric failure you will grow 100 % and if you do that 1 working set per exercise lets say you do 2 or 3 exersxiese per muscle group that means 2 -3 working set per muacle group its enough and if you camt reach it to such a hard brutal disguting failure then my recomemdations is doing rest pause reps but most people have to first feel what true failure is. I know it frim my days i thiught many times i reached failure when in reality i had like 3 to 5 screaming reps in the tank.
That set of squats was rough lol
Loving the talking content if you could keep putting out tips like this and taking about diet that would be amazing along with the training content keep killing it. If you can no worries man still appreciate you putting out vids regardless
It's eccentric not decentric.
You're drastically overthinking it, Full ROM until you cant, then lengthened partials until you can't.
Or just drop set and continue with full ROM until you can't.
No
Brilliant video. Easy to be distracted by those hulk like traps!
1. Concentric Failure
2. Decentric failure
3.
been watching you for ages , credit to the natural status fella 🤙
something you've made me realize is exactly this. i started actually making noises in the gym and it highkey helps alot
Not a good thing hahaha
if you arent hallucinating by the end of the workout are you really training hard enough?
Great
great video, I have tried training like mike menzer for 2 months 3 times a week but the true failure was so annoying to reach because I had to ask people to help every time I do my 1 set.
you can do rest pause and cheat a rep in or two only controlling the decentric portion of the lift
Gonna try this on dips tonight
I think with dips this might be difficult it’s a bit of a compound injury is a huge issue if you’ve got people pushing you up to slowly come down your shoulders triceps and chest isn’t just a muscle joints might get in the way more for what he showed which is machines and safe exercises. As he mentioned with the squats. Bench deadlift dips squats and other like barbell movements probably not the best to use this method with
It’s ECCENTRIC, Not DEcentric
Fuck it lets create New words bro who gives a fuck. DECCENTRIC
my bad
@marcusbrownyeah say your target rep for a set is 10. do you do your 10 reps within the 1st step of failure or go to about 5 and failing and then do assisted reps?
In the first step u go to actual failure where u cant get a full rep anymore then the guys comes in to help
If u want to get stronger on a lift while also building muscle should u not hit failure every time?
You're not hitting failure on deadlifts lets be real. You'll do a 1RM sure but you'll faint before you can take it this far on a working set. Same problem with the other compounds. Hell Smolov Jr the fastest way of putting weight on the compounds doesn't go above 85% for sets of 3.
@@xx-----------xx873 But aside from compounds, say ur doing a set of incline machine press, and your training solely to maximise hypertrophy, should you go to failure on all your sets to actually improve and progressively overload that lift, or is it better to leave some reps in reserve?
@@rockld122 I'm a man of anecdotes, but I don't think you need to go this far. Concentric failure with a drop set to concentric failure would do 90% of what this would do. However, sometimes I get really hyped for a lift, so I'll take it to partials then eccentric. At that point I'm so light headed I stop, I don't take it close to as far as the lad in the video.
Base it off your recovery. If you're in a 1k per day surplus you can maybe get away with this and see week on week gains. At 200 surplus probably not, on a cut lol no you'd be dead for a fortnight.
@@xx-----------xx873 oh yeah no way could u go this far every set, I meant concentric failure only, should u try to hit that every set or should you leave some reps.
Why lie about being on roids 😂😂
Yeah show us your bloodwork please
@@ANABOLICTGUN blood can work?
hes not lol
send me a bloodwork test and I'll prove it.. im not paying for one however just to prove to people who i dont really mind if they believe me or not hahah
Marcus how do you track this though? How do you progressively overload this because you cant really track the reps due to the concentric failure then decentric and so on? cheers mate
Going to failure means you don't really care about weight or numbers, just how close to 0% can you go.
If you care about strength you could do a normal set and then do this as a second set. Good luck eating enough for that.
True @@xx-----------xx873
@@marcusbrownyeah Unequivocally false.
yes but when you train til failure how do you know when to up the weight. If you take yourself til absolute 0 on a certain weight. How many times do you do that until u have to progress overtime? @@xx-----------xx873
How do I get bigger and stronger like you
blast tren
your huge
Bro looks majestic
I know from personal experience that when you are a beginner the burning senasation on a set is failure but when you mature enough failure real failure is when you feel pain and want to just give up stop training just go home it just hurts insanely. There is no word that can describe this ugly disgusting pain and doing only the concentric failure you will grow 100 % and if you do that 1 working set per exercise lets say you do 2 or 3 exersxiese per muscle group that means 2 -3 working set per muacle group its enough and if you camt reach it to such a hard brutal disguting failure then my recomemdations is doing rest pause reps but most people have to first feel what true failure is. I know it frim my days i thiught many times i reached failure when in reality i had like 3 to 5 screaming reps in the tank.