You can make a friend with a younger person but once you begin trying to get them into freaky stuff like Birdie wanted to do.... It becomes more than him wanting a "friendship" it's them wanting more from the younger person that they should not be giving. Sure Birdie was a child but way older than the person who was to their knowledge 13 (actually 12) and most definitely should've understood to not do this. But he was only thinking for himself and didn't care about others. Simply an awful person who still hasn't apologized. Like an apology would be so nice! (probably wouldn't fix anything) But this person who should be matured and learned but simply hasn't matured or learned anything. So he simply can't be trusted with his platform because of what his influence has been used with. My final final thoughts I suppose. Lump that in with everything else I yap about.
@@ExolenStolenjack himself has actually expressed wanting to “SA” (to the fullest extent) his former partners and former friends in the past but didn’t do to long distance soooo… make of that what you will
THISS! It's fine to be friends with people who are younger than you. Personally, I only have a couple of younger friends but rarely talk to them and only find myself as a parental figure since they look up to me as a role model. But for people to take advantage of that and to use their younger audience to tell their sexual desires too?.. disgusting. Criminal at that.
THANK YOU! Glad to have been help along this adventure of sharing this persons terrible actions around and spreading awareness to save any further victims. Your video was amazing and I hope you have a good rest of your day!!!
When the Synnibear03 situation began I felt bad for Jack, but learning more about him and how they squandered the money given to him on Door Dash and Derpy Hooves plushies has changed my view considerably.
I’m kinda new to the “Birdie drama” I grew up with the 2000’s internet and posted in forums where we’d make pixel dollz art, it was *nothing* close to this. We had some drama here and there but it was regular teenage girl stuff. I have no idea how the teenage art community online turned into this.
This is so real, in the sense that every drama I’ve ever seen happen in my space has been somewhat teenage drama, (we are all teenagers or young adults, so it’s not surprising.) this is NOTHING like what I’ve seen before.
unsupervised internet access + mentally ill young people + getting into a bunch of controversial communities + being abused several times thru out life so then they put that on other people creating a cycle
I saw slime's video. I've been following up the Birdie stuff for years now and I thought last year he would better himself with the video he came out explaining everything, but at the same time it seemed to me that he was only victim blaming. The audacity for him to make a gofundme page and getting money out of pity because people wanted to help all for him to waste it on garbage plushies. If Birdie comes out of the blue again let's not believe a word he says anymore, he is a liar, manupilator, and a sick person. I'm not surprised if he has fantasies of taking someone's life, I just don't trust him. As an adult myself, this is horrible and Birdie is still acting like a child, it's embarrasing he needs actual help. And if you're a minor reading this, please don't trust others on the internet and stay safe!
he DOES fantasize ab it. im pretty sure there's screenshots of him saying he wanted to kill hos parents with a fork ajd apparently he inflicted abuse on his siblings but idk ab that i saw that from a transphoboc troll spamming so idk how reliable that is
I’m sick of the animation meme community as a whole. but Jack has to be the worst of them all, why did he come back??? He left for 7 years and the entire time he was just fucking about with another groomer and being a weirdo In general??? those whole 7 years could’ve been used for therapy..but no…Jack had to do more sick shit I can't believe I thought he changed. As a person who went through so much, there is no excuse for his actions no “I’m just mentally ill” can excuse this when you could seek help.
@@fearfulsomeoneoh? I saw like multiple people say 7 years lmao 😭 and i really haven’t visited his channel ever since 2018 so i said “7” but ur right its 2 years lmao..
as a mentally ill person his disorders explain SOME of his actions but do not excuse them whatsoever which is what he's trying to do; put the blame on anyone but himself (that's what personality disorders do to u but oh well, coulda got therapy or tried to improve himself while being gone. if he were really sorry he'd show some effort and actions to get better)
@@ticklemypickle36 EXACTLY!! Do not get me wrong. I went through some horrific things and suffered mental disorders from it, but I'm not out here abusing children like WTF?? 😭
also it’s not like jack was the only one engaging in this stuff :( it makes it seem like he was forcing it on us and while yes he was the only one actually showing the physical effects of his mental health (the only one having shown his cuts, ribs, and the nsfw i believe) cherry and i were also ill having been in a server like that being so influenced by the people around us and influenced by the other older members. i just didn’t want to put cherry or i on blast for things at such a vulnerable point and us being so young, however i showed a lot of what jack had done because not only was he the only one actually exposing this shit (images, fanfic, whatever) but to prove this is a pattern of behavior, as kids me and cherry might’ve over shared BUT we did not take it any further + our main enabler was turning 18 that year (the same person who convinced jack to get the knife however he was only 1 year older than jack) and was 2 1/2 to 3 yrs older than me and like 6?? yrs older than cherry so i thought i was just a bit too disgusted or ashamed to show what we had done having been influenced and did not repeat this cycle ourselves, however this is the reason i don’t believe im a victim in this situation, not of jack at least (maybe the older member in our “friend group” given they were like 3 years older than me and did some stuff to me specifically i didn’t talk about cause its unrelated) but i. still think cherry is a victim of jack and everyone else there who was enabling this poor behavior. cherry specifically doesn’t view me as an abuser or groomer or any of that kind of thing because i was under the impression we were closer in age + apologized they forgave me + unlike jack i don’t have a cycle of being a weirdo to kids
although i wanna say; me and cherry weren’t engaging in that kind of stuff in the actual cultish server . i can’t remember too much what cherry had actually done because like who cares but in my case i know i only started talking about that kind of thing because i was comfortable and trusted those people , however we did not talk about those kinds of feelings in the weirdo server because i already didn’t like them going into it and just wanted the chance to meet my at the time favorite youtuber (he knew i was a huge fan and that’s a bit embarrassing lol) but like when i say we were mentally ill posting it was only in the gc/ server WE made not the weird cultish one, just to clear the air, i did not partake in that weird fetishist server
it’s been stated by another person involved that the s/h stuff was a paraphilia which makes it even weirder somehow to share to children! also thank u for being respectful during this there’s so many creators who don’t take any of it seriously when covering this❤
It makes me wonder if he was the one who influenced Synni down the path she went through.. Maybe exposing Synnibear was to cover up what he did himself.
kinky sadism has to be something to be very careful with. By itself, i personally see it as fine if done carefully and instructed correctly. The more kinkier you, the more wary you must be to your partners, as well as handling more responsibility. You can't just spur you sadist thoughts out of nowhere, it needs a warning and boundaries very much. But these were kids, who don't even understand those terms. I thought the dice chat was admittedly like a fever dream or false allegations at one point, since i was 14 hearing this in the community. But also how people handled it then, they just stopped talking about or they overlooked it. I felt like this was a concern extremely overlooked, and it was only discussed like 3-4 years ago.
I was in a semi similar situation like this, when I was 16/17 I remember becoming friends with a FNAF artist I will not name and they invited me to a seemingly normal discord server and the owner who was 22/23 at the time and the server members were all 14+ but majority of the members were 15-17 And I was led to believe that the server Owner was literally a nice person and the server owner encouraged/enabled inappropriate behaviors amongst minors erp, nsfw art etc and it was like this before I arrived into the server {The server owner also did Erotic roleplay with minors} and I believed that since were all close in age 15-17 it didn't matter and I was being actively groomed at the time and now looking back at this as a 21 year old, I am horrified of the abuse me and my friends went through but I also actively APOLOGIZED to the people I worry that I hurt and I've become a better person etc and all I hope for is the sick bastard server owner to get hurt the worst part this person has children Knowing Jack he probably doesn't want to AT LEAST APOLOGIZE OR ANYTHING
Don't feel pity for someone who doesn't feel an ounce towards anyone except himself. He'll use any amount of pity to get out of a sticky situation. Be on your guard.
also i wanna say, like me and cherry were younger (cherry being closer to 4-5 years and me being around 1 1/2 to 2 yrs younger) BUTTT not only did i think cherry and i were closer in age at the time (which i have sense reached out and apologized to them specifically in this situation cause i literally had no idea and they did not gaf cause they know im a creep) the other members were like his age about and the other one was 1 year older than him so thats a bit more context of the situation
ALSO about birdie being 16 while in this server, he is two years older than the server member so that wouldn’t be an excuse at all it’s not like he was being groomed by this person + joined knowing they were obsessed with him and wanted to be with him and concerning art they made of him
I'm just gonna say it but why did nobody do anything while it was happening just saying like genuinely I think the problem with online drama is the fact that nobody takes action when it needs to be taken and sits on shit
from my knowledge birdie did apologize to some people, not all of them but he did apologize so some of them edit: still doesnt excuse the shit he did but yk 💀
Imagine telling someone from the Birdie circle that their rants from 2016-17 would devolve into this. Just a mess all around since I want to feel bad for them, but not learning from them shows how important it is to take care of your kids and to protect them from social media
You can make a friend with a younger person but once you begin trying to get them into freaky stuff like Birdie wanted to do.... It becomes more than him wanting a "friendship" it's them wanting more from the younger person that they should not be giving. Sure Birdie was a child but way older than the person who was to their knowledge 13 (actually 12) and most definitely should've understood to not do this. But he was only thinking for himself and didn't care about others. Simply an awful person who still hasn't apologized. Like an apology would be so nice! (probably wouldn't fix anything) But this person who should be matured and learned but simply hasn't matured or learned anything. So he simply can't be trusted with his platform because of what his influence has been used with. My final final thoughts I suppose. Lump that in with everything else I yap about.
The comparison to Jimmy was a joke btw. Birdie is awful but Jimmy is infinitely worse as a character. I just put a reference in.
@@ExolenStolenjack himself has actually expressed wanting to “SA” (to the fullest extent) his former partners and former friends in the past but didn’t do to long distance soooo… make of that what you will
@@slimedalien Okay then this guy is as bad as Jimmy.... Reference went so hard it manifested into reality.
THISS!
It's fine to be friends with people who are younger than you. Personally, I only have a couple of younger friends but rarely talk to them and only find myself as a parental figure since they look up to me as a role model.
But for people to take advantage of that and to use their younger audience to tell their sexual desires too?.. disgusting. Criminal at that.
19k for an mlp toy is insane 💀💀💀
Time stamp? I gotta see this
It's the verblavase animation all over again 😭
@@avianlord2779 watch the video..?
birdie having a bojack horseman pfp is so funny to me
make sense, she's acting like a victim to justify her horrible behaviour.
just like Bojack.
Ironic innit
@@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad Let’s not misgender people just because they do bad things thanks
@@derpdud I always find it really funny when people like this watch shows like Bojack. They learnt absolutely nothing from that show.
@@I_Dont_Believe_In_SaladHes* Birdie uses He/Him pronouns
this sucks, i genuinely though jack gotten better after leaving the internet and i was willing to support him. oh well, he did this to himself.
jack really is messed up in the head.
Yet he refuses to get therapy, just sits on the internet all day.
OKAY I THINK I SAID ALL THAT I NEEDED TO GOOD VIDEO AS ALWAYS EXOLEN I WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH YOUR FUTURE PEAK 🙏🔥 BLESS
THANK YOU! Glad to have been help along this adventure of sharing this persons terrible actions around and spreading awareness to save any further victims. Your video was amazing and I hope you have a good rest of your day!!!
When the Synnibear03 situation began I felt bad for Jack, but learning more about him and how they squandered the money given to him on Door Dash and Derpy Hooves plushies has changed my view considerably.
I’m kinda new to the “Birdie drama” I grew up with the 2000’s internet and posted in forums where we’d make pixel dollz art, it was *nothing* close to this. We had some drama here and there but it was regular teenage girl stuff. I have no idea how the teenage art community online turned into this.
This is so real, in the sense that every drama I’ve ever seen happen in my space has been somewhat teenage drama, (we are all teenagers or young adults, so it’s not surprising.) this is NOTHING like what I’ve seen before.
@ right? It was mostly “Tarawr is shit talking you in my DM’s whilst pretending to be your friend” lmao that was it.
unsupervised internet access + mentally ill young people + getting into a bunch of controversial communities + being abused several times thru out life so then they put that on other people creating a cycle
I saw slime's video. I've been following up the Birdie stuff for years now and I thought last year he would better himself with the video he came out explaining everything, but at the same time it seemed to me that he was only victim blaming. The audacity for him to make a gofundme page and getting money out of pity because people wanted to help all for him to waste it on garbage plushies. If Birdie comes out of the blue again let's not believe a word he says anymore, he is a liar, manupilator, and a sick person. I'm not surprised if he has fantasies of taking someone's life, I just don't trust him. As an adult myself, this is horrible and Birdie is still acting like a child, it's embarrasing he needs actual help. And if you're a minor reading this, please don't trust others on the internet and stay safe!
There's actually multiple incidents and screenshots of Birdie talking about how he wanted or fantasized killing his exes
he DOES fantasize ab it. im pretty sure there's screenshots of him saying he wanted to kill hos parents with a fork ajd apparently he inflicted abuse on his siblings but idk ab that i saw that from a transphoboc troll spamming so idk how reliable that is
I’m sick of the animation meme community as a whole. but Jack has to be the worst of them all, why did he come back??? He left for 7 years and the entire time he was just fucking about with another groomer and being a weirdo In general??? those whole 7 years could’ve been used for therapy..but no…Jack had to do more sick shit I can't believe I thought he changed.
As a person who went through so much, there is no excuse for his actions no “I’m just mentally ill” can excuse this when you could seek help.
ion like birdie either but where r u getting 7 years from he was gone for like 2 and a half years
@@fearfulsomeoneoh? I saw like multiple people say 7 years lmao 😭 and i really haven’t visited his channel ever since 2018 so i said “7” but ur right its 2 years lmao..
as a mentally ill person his disorders explain SOME of his actions but do not excuse them whatsoever which is what he's trying to do; put the blame on anyone but himself (that's what personality disorders do to u but oh well, coulda got therapy or tried to improve himself while being gone. if he were really sorry he'd show some effort and actions to get better)
@@ticklemypickle36
EXACTLY!! Do not get me wrong. I went through some horrific things and suffered mental disorders from it, but I'm not out here abusing children like WTF?? 😭
also it’s not like jack was the only one engaging in this stuff :( it makes it seem like he was forcing it on us and while yes he was the only one actually showing the physical effects of his mental health (the only one having shown his cuts, ribs, and the nsfw i believe) cherry and i were also ill having been in a server like that being so influenced by the people around us and influenced by the other older members. i just didn’t want to put cherry or i on blast for things at such a vulnerable point and us being so young, however i showed a lot of what jack had done because not only was he the only one actually exposing this shit (images, fanfic, whatever) but to prove this is a pattern of behavior, as kids me and cherry might’ve over shared BUT we did not take it any further + our main enabler was turning 18 that year (the same person who convinced jack to get the knife however he was only 1 year older than jack) and was 2 1/2 to 3 yrs older than me and like 6?? yrs older than cherry so i thought i was just a bit too disgusted or ashamed to show what we had done having been influenced and did not repeat this cycle ourselves,
however this is the reason i don’t believe im a victim in this situation, not of jack at least (maybe the older member in our “friend group” given they were like 3 years older than me and did some stuff to me specifically i didn’t talk about cause its unrelated) but i. still think cherry is a victim of jack and everyone else there who was enabling this poor behavior. cherry specifically doesn’t view me as an abuser or groomer or any of that kind of thing because i was under the impression we were closer in age + apologized they forgave me + unlike jack i don’t have a cycle of being a weirdo to kids
although i wanna say; me and cherry weren’t engaging in that kind of stuff in the actual cultish server . i can’t remember too much what cherry had actually done because like who cares but in my case i know i only started talking about that kind of thing because i was comfortable and trusted those people , however we did not talk about those kinds of feelings in the weirdo server because i already didn’t like them going into it and just wanted the chance to meet my at the time favorite youtuber (he knew i was a huge fan and that’s a bit embarrassing lol) but like when i say we were mentally ill posting it was only in the gc/ server WE made not the weird cultish one, just to clear the air, i did not partake in that weird fetishist server
it’s been stated by another person involved that the s/h stuff was a paraphilia which makes it even weirder somehow to share to children! also thank u for being respectful during this there’s so many creators who don’t take any of it seriously when covering this❤
1:08 caught me so offguard, i was thinking the same thing.. plus they both go by names that start with the letter j.
And I thought I could get careless with spending money…
It makes me wonder if he was the one who influenced Synni down the path she went through.. Maybe exposing Synnibear was to cover up what he did himself.
Ijust hope the cats are safe
I wonder if a birdie supporter will come spam the comments.
Cross your fingers. We would not know.
if they do its prolly a bot
This video needs to be spread around, I'm jit tired of Birdies BS
kinky sadism has to be something to be very careful with. By itself, i personally see it as fine if done carefully and instructed correctly. The more kinkier you, the more wary you must be to your partners, as well as handling more responsibility. You can't just spur you sadist thoughts out of nowhere, it needs a warning and boundaries very much. But these were kids, who don't even understand those terms. I thought the dice chat was admittedly like a fever dream or false allegations at one point, since i was 14 hearing this in the community. But also how people handled it then, they just stopped talking about or they overlooked it. I felt like this was a concern extremely overlooked, and it was only discussed like 3-4 years ago.
I appreciate the fuck out of your videos its just refreshing to have someone as open minded and bright on the platform.
Why thank you, I shall continue to make appreciative videos for my awesome audience.
I was in a semi similar situation like this, when I was 16/17 I remember becoming friends with a FNAF artist I will not name and they invited me to a seemingly normal discord server and the owner who was 22/23 at the time and the server members were all 14+ but majority of the members were 15-17
And I was led to believe that the server Owner was literally a nice person and the server owner encouraged/enabled inappropriate behaviors amongst minors
erp, nsfw art etc and it was like this before I arrived into the server {The server owner also did Erotic roleplay with minors}
and I believed that since were all close in age 15-17 it didn't matter and I was being actively groomed at the time and now looking back at this as a 21 year old, I am horrified of the abuse me and my friends went through but I also actively APOLOGIZED to the people I worry that I hurt and I've become a better person etc and all I hope for is the sick bastard server owner to get hurt
the worst part this person has children
Knowing Jack he probably doesn't want to AT LEAST APOLOGIZE OR ANYTHING
Poor poor thing... There is no end. He's planning a comeback video.
Don't feel pity for someone who doesn't feel an ounce towards anyone except himself. He'll use any amount of pity to get out of a sticky situation. Be on your guard.
@ExolenStolen oh I don't feel pity for Jack, I feel pity for you for thinking the situation is finally over LMAO
the bojack horseman pfp says it all
also i wanna say, like me and cherry were younger (cherry being closer to 4-5 years and me being around 1 1/2 to 2 yrs younger) BUTTT not only did i think cherry and i were closer in age at the time (which i have sense reached out and apologized to them specifically in this situation cause i literally had no idea and they did not gaf cause they know im a creep) the other members were like his age about and the other one was 1 year older than him so thats a bit more context of the situation
ALSO about birdie being 16 while in this server, he is two years older than the server member so that wouldn’t be an excuse at all it’s not like he was being groomed by this person + joined knowing they were obsessed with him and wanted to be with him and concerning art they made of him
this sucks because i really thought he had gotten better
Got jumpscared by the mouthwashing reference help
Jimstraining Jorder 😔
There was an owl ad right before this video and it makes this funnier
It's always something with this one for fucks sake
common exolen W, this has been going on for far too long
I kinda feel glad i didn’t know these things existed in my little years.
I doubt it’s the end. Birdie will always come back. Like William afton
I'm just gonna say it but why did nobody do anything while it was happening just saying like genuinely I think the problem with online drama is the fact that nobody takes action when it needs to be taken and sits on shit
congrats on your second member!
OH MY Gooooddnesss THANK YOU!!! You get one bajillion coolness!!
@@ExolenStolen WOOO MAH LOOK I MADE IT
Question, have people actually been reporting the gofundme?
I actually don't know... I didn't think of that actually... I'm foolish.
from my knowledge birdie did apologize to some people, not all of them but he did apologize so some of them
edit: still doesnt excuse the shit he did but yk 💀
😂 i can't man
This situation is pure irony
Has Birdie posted anything abt this? I tried to look at his youtube but it seems that he deleted it
his account is up but he's been inactive since two months ago? i think
Off topic but u could be a model ugot a pretty face
can we stop calling this shit drama for two seconds
right? im not hating on this video and its very informative, but calling it drama downplays EVERYTHING. it isnt drama, its real life
wow its a lose/lose
I feel kinda bad for jack but not really
part of me feels so bad butoooooooooooooooo not that bad...
This is gross wtf
1nd
Imagine telling someone from the Birdie circle that their rants from 2016-17 would devolve into this.
Just a mess all around since I want to feel bad for them, but not learning from them shows how important it is to take care of your kids and to protect them from social media