I can't remember if it's ever directly stated, but I like the idea that Cannibal Town is such a nice place because everyone eats the people they don't want around, meaning only the pleasant and polite stay alive
another possibility is that, considering the way Alastor talks about Rosie, she keeps everyone in line, and sort of forces them to be polite "or else". Alastor did say that Cannibal Town was "surprisingly nice" thanks to Rosie, and he described her as "the most dangerous Overlord this side of the Pentagram". So, chances are Rosie manages to control them with a mix of charisma, good leadership skills, and some good-old Overlord intimidation. Also, Rosie did say that she couldn't just order them to follow anyone else in battle, meaning she is not like Alastor, who can (and wants to) make people do his beading no-matter if they want to or not. So chances are that the cannibals follow her because she is a good leader who gets them food and safety, and in exchange, they live and act the way she decides: being polite and dressing and acting like it's 1910
Who would've thought the leader of the cannibals would make such a good relationship counselor? Rosie is a lot more chill in general than I ever would've thought. Cannibal Town is a lot more pleasant than I thought. I love how Vivienne turns our conventions on their heads. Also, "Out For Love" is such a bop.
The dynamic Alastor and Rosie have is my favorite. They are such besties ✨💅. I bet Rosie taught Alastor swear words and words like "tea", for example. Might need more lessons on the "ace in the hole" joke..
Rosie 100% taught him what “that’s the tea” means. I need more of them. I’m so curious as to how long they’ve known each other because she seems to be the only one Alastor would be willing to call a friend. I wonder if she could talk him out of hurting people? Like, if a situation between power or being a somewhat decent individual arose could she pull him out? Probably not, but it’s a thought.
Actually "thats the tea" was used in the 1930's we just brought it back recently so Alastor would have known it since he was a radio host but Rosie def needs to teach him more slang 🤣
@@lelianavillin2309 hmm.. interesting. The more you know 😁 still, I don't think he was the way he is now as a radio host when he was alive. He most likely got the gossip bitchy attitude from Rosie, I'm sure.. or.. relearned it but better, probably.. since he sunk himself for decades in boredom and now he finally found some fun again...? After disappearing for 7 years where he might not be in contact with Rosie... idk
@@Daesma999 I think his personality now is just a hyped-up version on him when he was alive since he doesn't have to worry about what others think personally I think the reason him and Rosie are so close is bc there both gossip drama queens🤣 i do think that Rosie will teach him some of the newer slang for his broadcasts now that he's back tho
My guy it's called "lying by omission". Specifically not telling someone something that they would want to know about you is called lying by omission lol.
@@CyanHope I mostly agree with you, but I don't think Charlie feeling lied to is unreasonable. Personally I don't blame Vaggie for not wanting to tell her. Her secret though became something that could possibly ruin their relationship, and ruin their chance at getting the help they need. Vaggie still didn't tell her about it. So yes lying by omission is a thing, Vaggie doesn't owe Charlie an explanation about everything, but Charlie wouldn't have felt lied to if Vaggie had told her rather than someone else. Most importantly I think the fact Charlie recognizes that Vaggie was just having a hard time telling her, and made a mistake is a good thing.
At least Alastor specified that the favour specifically can't be to harm someone. There's still plenty room for this coming back to haunt Charlie, but at least it precludes some of the more problematic things he could ask for. I think the souvenir was a shrunken head made into a keychain, but I don't want to look too closely. :P
The deal is so loose it makes me anxious. Like he could steal her powers or take over her body and take control without physically harming anybody. Or isolate her from everyone else until she goes crazy
I was so surprised, and unbelievably happy when they put the ace reference in. It was so unexpected, and cool, how they said it, given that “ace in a hole” is already a phrase. No idea how many times I’ve rewatched it with a big grin on my face. If I was a betting person, I’d be willing to bet Rosie is educating herself on the entire queer spectrum to better understand her people.
@@nabinoorshahil2715more specifically “soft canon” meaning while some things have been removed from it and no longer apply the general concept/content as a whole still does.
so umm, susan might be a reference for the former ceo of youtube who's called susan. apparently from what I heard, she made it very difficult for hazbin hotel and helluva boss to be on youtube when she's around, so they are just dissing her here
helluva boss is basically what you said at the end, slice of life of them doing their job (which is kill for hire lol) and while there's a sense of progression with character relationships there's not an overarching story quite as dramatic as this one. Love both series and would definitely recommend it next!
Razzle and Dazzle are like Keyky they are toys Lucifer bring to life. Rosie's talk reminds me of Franklin from Pilot episode who was moust likely her friend maybe even. It's possible that Eve is character named Roo = Root of Evil in hell. Vivziepop has mention that she will in story.
Am I the only one who thought “mentor” when Alastor said “She’s filled with potential that I could guide” ..? I mean, Vivizipop did say Alastor would be a good mentor so…maybe?
ONe thing that always got me was Vaggie said she did not know Angels could be hurt, but she got her eye cut out, and her wings wripped off and her neck cut with an Anglic weapon ?
It's a lie by omission. No, Vaggie may not have lied in the conventiional sense, but she kept information about herself that she knew Charlie would have had a hard time processing.
It was her fucking traumatic past. That’s not lying or lying by omission. If you discovered that your partner didn’t talk to you about an abusive ex, a past trauma or more, would you call them a liar?
@@CyanHope If her ex was actively trying to kill my people? Yeah. This is different. This isn't a past relationship she was in. She was part of an active organization that is actively killing off Charlie's people. You don't chalk that up to a traumatic past. Was it traumatic for vaggie? Yeah, but that doesn't take away from the fact that she kept something from Charlie that she shouldn't have.
@@RageofaNation Charlie didn’t have a right to know her past. That’s not how it works.😂😂 it was her traumatic past and she didn’t have to tell anyone if she didn’t want to. That’s not lying by omission especially because the angels were killing with or without her so her being part of them in the past didn’t matter. Also, not you purposefully ignoring that she was brainwashed into being a soldier and stoped, which caused her to be assaulted, maimed and abandoned.
@@CyanHope Not you bringing in emotionally charged takes and taking shots at me personally in a conversation. Hold the L. Wonder if you would still spout this type of rhetoric if you were in the situation. Like you would be perfectly fine finding out you're dating someone that was waging asymptomatic warfare on your family. "oh that's ok Hun. You only killed my cousins. You had no duty on your part to tell me before I entered into a relationship with you". We aren't talking about an ex. We are talking about the literal murder of her people. Just because you have this weird head canon where vaggie and Adam used to be together doesn't make it cannon.
The thing in court: "Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?" Is actually because there are three types of lies. An outright lie, a lie by omission, and a white lie (I'm forgetting the technical term for that one) Omitting information (not offering it) is actually a form of a lie lol
@@CyanHope that is still lying (that is why courts say, tell the whole truth, Becuase of this) I don't blame Vaggie for not telling Charlie it's understandable. But I understand Charlie would be upset as she thought she was a Sinner and Vaggie most likely came up with lies about her life so Charlie would beleive her. However. The moment Adam threatened to tell Charlie is the moment Vaggie should have told her. Even if it might upset Charlie it would be a whole lot better hearing it from the person and not some third party.
This episode is probably one of my faves. Out for love and Ready for this has so much emotion and information. I can't wait to see you guyses reaction to the Finale! 😍
Maybe I am reading too much into it but I think when Alastor and Rosie sang powerful as power-fell it meant both powerful but also felled by their own power. Lucifer in Heaven fallen by his own power. And Alastor believes ultimately Charlie could also fall due to her own power. I love Alastor. It also you know, rhymes with hell, but it is boring to think that that is the only reason they would choose that wording.
Please watch Helluva Boss after this. It's set in the same world as Hazbin Hotel but focused more on its hierarchy, characters, romance, and most importantly, comedy!!
You should watch Centaurworld! Another musical show, tho a bit more wacky cartoony than this, still fun. Kimiko Glenn who plays Niffty in this is the main character in that show.
I Love yours all reaction to this series!! Maybe start up Helluva Boss it’s in the same world as Hazbin Hotel and from Vivziepop also! Can’t wait to see more!
Imagine if your significant other just forgot to mention they're married. And it just never came up. They were totally not lying cuz that's not an important detail at all. XD. That's basically what Vaggie did.
@@CyanHope oh, was it not obvious that I used a real life example to help someone understand how that counts as lying because they already didn't think it was. And if you're the perpetrator, saying it simply as your traumatic past is misleading.
But it isn’t lying. It is not misleading saying that it was a traumatic event because it fucking was. You are ignoring the fact that she was assaulted,maimed and abandoned. It is traumatic and is clearly portrayed as such. Not talking about your traumatic past is not lying by omission
@@CyanHope you have to understand that she did the traumatic part to all of the denizens of hell she helped kill. She's not just a victim, she's also a perpetrator, under orders of people that has her fate in their hands sure, but she still did that. To reduce that to her simply hiding her pain is what's misleading.
@@SoraJackit is not misleading because her being an ex exorcist doesn’t change anything. It’s still her traumatic past. If a soldier has ptsd from war, and doesn’t tell someone they were in a war. It doesn’t make them less of a victim and it isn’t misleading, especially after what happened that caused them to leave
I am pretty sure that if Charlie would have paid better attention to what Vaggie said to her instead of going off and breaking out into song, she could have put together that Vaggie wasn't from hell. Back in episode 3 when they were on the roof, Vaggie asked her how long are they going to sit by and watch 'Your" people be killed. not our people, Charlie didn't catch it.. But a good 90% of people watching the series didn't catch it either. Hell I only caught it on the 6th watch through on someone elses reaction video. lol
I can't remember if it's ever directly stated, but I like the idea that Cannibal Town is such a nice place because everyone eats the people they don't want around, meaning only the pleasant and polite stay alive
Susan gets by cause everyone likes her (except those who are outsiders)
another possibility is that, considering the way Alastor talks about Rosie, she keeps everyone in line, and sort of forces them to be polite "or else". Alastor did say that Cannibal Town was "surprisingly nice" thanks to Rosie, and he described her as "the most dangerous Overlord this side of the Pentagram". So, chances are Rosie manages to control them with a mix of charisma, good leadership skills, and some good-old Overlord intimidation.
Also, Rosie did say that she couldn't just order them to follow anyone else in battle, meaning she is not like Alastor, who can (and wants to) make people do his beading no-matter if they want to or not. So chances are that the cannibals follow her because she is a good leader who gets them food and safety, and in exchange, they live and act the way she decides: being polite and dressing and acting like it's 1910
Oooo that's so cool!
sure would explain why everyone is nice, im sure even the living wouldnt mind murdering that one asshole neighbor if it wasnt illegal
I always wondered if it was because the eating people that was their only sin, aside from that they’re just nice people
Charlie to Can'nibal Town: "im going to free your people"
*no reaction*
Alistor: "also free food"
*everybody cheers*
Who would've thought the leader of the cannibals would make such a good relationship counselor? Rosie is a lot more chill in general than I ever would've thought. Cannibal Town is a lot more pleasant than I thought. I love how Vivienne turns our conventions on their heads. Also, "Out For Love" is such a bop.
Damn bro I swear I see u in every sour taste and Sorta stupid reaction video comment section
She's based on Dolly Levi from Hello, Dolly! Classic musical. :)
I guess it’s because eating people was their only big sin, aside from that they’re just nice
The dynamic Alastor and Rosie have is my favorite. They are such besties ✨💅. I bet Rosie taught Alastor swear words and words like "tea", for example. Might need more lessons on the "ace in the hole" joke..
Rosie 100% taught him what “that’s the tea” means. I need more of them. I’m so curious as to how long they’ve known each other because she seems to be the only one Alastor would be willing to call a friend. I wonder if she could talk him out of hurting people? Like, if a situation between power or being a somewhat decent individual arose could she pull him out? Probably not, but it’s a thought.
Actually "thats the tea" was used in the 1930's we just brought it back recently so Alastor would have known it since he was a radio host but Rosie def needs to teach him more slang 🤣
@@lelianavillin2309 hmm.. interesting. The more you know 😁
still, I don't think he was the way he is now as a radio host when he was alive. He most likely got the gossip bitchy attitude from Rosie, I'm sure.. or.. relearned it but better, probably.. since he sunk himself for decades in boredom and now he finally found some fun again...? After disappearing for 7 years where he might not be in contact with Rosie... idk
@@Daesma999 I think his personality now is just a hyped-up version on him when he was alive since he doesn't have to worry about what others think personally I think the reason him and Rosie are so close is bc there both gossip drama queens🤣 i do think that Rosie will teach him some of the newer slang for his broadcasts now that he's back tho
@@lelianavillin2309 I'm totally on the same page with you on this matter
12:49
"you ever heard the word gaslight? because i think youre pretty good at it"
LMAOOOOO
up next you should watch Helluva Boss, it's in the same universe as Hazbin Hotel, but focuses more on the comedy
Yup
yeah
while hazbin hotel focuses on sinners,the pride ring and heaven
helluva boss focuses on hellborn,the other rings and hell
@@letzplayosaurusHazbin also focuses on Redemption
And Helluva focuses more on personal relationships (family, friends and romantic)
@@letzplayosaurusyupp and hazbin is the higher ups and helluva boss focuses more on the ones who are ranked lower in society type of way
Helluva Boss is great
My guy it's called "lying by omission". Specifically not telling someone something that they would want to know about you is called lying by omission lol.
I was about to go and get the definition, thank you for doing this
Thisss. I was yelling this at the screen. How this knowledge isn't more common blows my mind.
Oh my fucking god. Not telling someone about your traumatic past is not lying by omission
@@CyanHope I mostly agree with you, but I don't think Charlie feeling lied to is unreasonable.
Personally I don't blame Vaggie for not wanting to tell her. Her secret though became something that could possibly ruin their relationship, and ruin their chance at getting the help they need. Vaggie still didn't tell her about it.
So yes lying by omission is a thing, Vaggie doesn't owe Charlie an explanation about everything, but Charlie wouldn't have felt lied to if Vaggie had told her rather than someone else.
Most importantly I think the fact Charlie recognizes that Vaggie was just having a hard time telling her, and made a mistake is a good thing.
At least Alastor specified that the favour specifically can't be to harm someone. There's still plenty room for this coming back to haunt Charlie, but at least it precludes some of the more problematic things he could ask for.
I think the souvenir was a shrunken head made into a keychain, but I don't want to look too closely. :P
The deal is so loose it makes me anxious. Like he could steal her powers or take over her body and take control without physically harming anybody. Or isolate her from everyone else until she goes crazy
Did yall peep they showed that Charlie has hooves? When she falls out of bed and when she’s sitting on the floor. Just a random detail.
I was so surprised, and unbelievably happy when they put the ace reference in. It was so unexpected, and cool, how they said it, given that “ace in a hole” is already a phrase. No idea how many times I’ve rewatched it with a big grin on my face. If I was a betting person, I’d be willing to bet Rosie is educating herself on the entire queer spectrum to better understand her people.
@NanaNanaBananaCrown If I recall correctly, he died in 1930's New Orleans. Or around that time period.
I recommend watching the pilot for this show. it is canon and can let you see how far the characters have come..
I think they said the pilot isn't canon
@@rabiakounta4006 No Viv very specifically said that the events of the pilot are canon.
@@nabinoorshahil2715more specifically “soft canon” meaning while some things have been removed from it and no longer apply the general concept/content as a whole still does.
11:55 It didn't come up onscreen, but Vaggie DID lie about her past, telling Charlie that she's a moth demon (like Valentino).
A lie by omission is still a lie
17:45 oh yall would really enjoy helluva boss
I dunno, I feel like these guys would think Stolas and Blitz are just such besties.
me watching hazbin hotel wondering why my fav song changes twice every episode
12:30 lmao somebody hasnt heard of "lying by ommission" before 🤣
Ya'll gotta do yourselves a service and listen to the Spanish Latino version of Out Of Love, its so good!!!
I mean it really is impressive that they managed to portray so much character development in such little time 🖤
so umm, susan might be a reference for the former ceo of youtube who's called susan. apparently from what I heard, she made it very difficult for hazbin hotel and helluva boss to be on youtube when she's around, so they are just dissing her here
Not being forthcoming is lying by omission. Lying by omission is considered lying.
8:59 BOOOOOO BRING ROSIE BACK
Charlie- "Susan?"
Alaster and Rosie- "Susan😏😒"
Me- "f**king Susan😏"
helluva boss is basically what you said at the end, slice of life of them doing their job (which is kill for hire lol) and while there's a sense of progression with character relationships there's not an overarching story quite as dramatic as this one. Love both series and would definitely recommend it next!
It's weird Vaggie didn't know Angels could be harmed when she lost an eye and her wings.
I like to think there's an unspoken "by demons" tacked on at the end.
That fixes the issue.
*radio noises*
Razzle and Dazzle are like Keyky they are toys Lucifer bring to life.
Rosie's talk reminds me of Franklin from Pilot episode who was moust likely her friend maybe even.
It's possible that Eve is character named Roo = Root of Evil in hell. Vivziepop has mention that she will in story.
Am I the only one who thought “mentor” when Alastor said “She’s filled with potential that I could guide” ..?
I mean, Vivizipop did say Alastor would be a good mentor so…maybe?
ONe thing that always got me was Vaggie said she did not know Angels could be hurt, but she got her eye cut out, and her wings wripped off and her neck cut with an Anglic weapon ?
It's a lie by omission. No, Vaggie may not have lied in the conventiional sense, but she kept information about herself that she knew Charlie would have had a hard time processing.
It was her fucking traumatic past. That’s not lying or lying by omission. If you discovered that your partner didn’t talk to you about an abusive ex, a past trauma or more, would you call them a liar?
@@CyanHope If her ex was actively trying to kill my people? Yeah. This is different. This isn't a past relationship she was in. She was part of an active organization that is actively killing off Charlie's people. You don't chalk that up to a traumatic past. Was it traumatic for vaggie? Yeah, but that doesn't take away from the fact that she kept something from Charlie that she shouldn't have.
@@RageofaNation Charlie didn’t have a right to know her past. That’s not how it works.😂😂 it was her traumatic past and she didn’t have to tell anyone if she didn’t want to. That’s not lying by omission especially because the angels were killing with or without her so her being part of them in the past didn’t matter. Also, not you purposefully ignoring that she was brainwashed into being a soldier and stoped, which caused her to be assaulted, maimed and abandoned.
@@RageofaNationyou should stay single if you think that your partner not talking to you about an abusive ex or past trauma is lying
@@CyanHope Not you bringing in emotionally charged takes and taking shots at me personally in a conversation. Hold the L. Wonder if you would still spout this type of rhetoric if you were in the situation. Like you would be perfectly fine finding out you're dating someone that was waging asymptomatic warfare on your family. "oh that's ok Hun. You only killed my cousins. You had no duty on your part to tell me before I entered into a relationship with you". We aren't talking about an ex. We are talking about the literal murder of her people. Just because you have this weird head canon where vaggie and Adam used to be together doesn't make it cannon.
They were together for years- Vaggie DEFINITELY lied by omission.
Not telling someone something because "it never came up" is called a lie by omission.
The thing in court: "Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?" Is actually because there are three types of lies.
An outright lie, a lie by omission, and a white lie (I'm forgetting the technical term for that one)
Omitting information (not offering it) is actually a form of a lie lol
Just to be clear: Keeping a secret is by definition lying. It's a lie of omission, where you withhold information
Similar things with wings has happened in life action Lucifer serial when angel come true some mental "redemption".
Lying by omission!! That's what it's called c:
Not revealing your traumatic past is not lying by omission
Vaggie not telling Charlie about a secret that big is lying. We call it lying by omission.
She didn’t lie. She simply did not reveal her traumatic past
@@CyanHope that is still lying (that is why courts say, tell the whole truth, Becuase of this)
I don't blame Vaggie for not telling Charlie it's understandable.
But I understand Charlie would be upset as she thought she was a Sinner and Vaggie most likely came up with lies about her life so Charlie would beleive her.
However. The moment Adam threatened to tell Charlie is the moment Vaggie should have told her. Even if it might upset Charlie it would be a whole lot better hearing it from the person and not some third party.
I think you both would like Helluva Boss. It's a little bit less plot-driven and more character-driven with more gags and wild comedy. A fun watch.
Awesome reaction, and now onto the finale
R.I.P. Fred
This episode is probably one of my faves. Out for love and Ready for this has so much emotion and information. I can't wait to see you guyses reaction to the Finale! 😍
You guys are such a rewarding reaction for this show, keep your heads up bois! I's likes the look of your moxie!
Maybe I am reading too much into it but I think when Alastor and Rosie sang powerful as power-fell it meant both powerful but also felled by their own power. Lucifer in Heaven fallen by his own power. And Alastor believes ultimately Charlie could also fall due to her own power. I love Alastor. It also you know, rhymes with hell, but it is boring to think that that is the only reason they would choose that wording.
What a lovely cannibal community
Please watch Helluva Boss after this. It's set in the same world as Hazbin Hotel but focused more on its hierarchy, characters, romance, and most importantly, comedy!!
You should watch Centaurworld! Another musical show, tho a bit more wacky cartoony than this, still fun.
Kimiko Glenn who plays Niffty in this is the main character in that show.
Yeah its like schrodinger's angel. She's both an angel and not an angel until Charlie asks her so it's not a lie.
your insistence on calling Adam "Dickmaster" is both upsetting and hilarious.
And vivian has another show purely eighteen plus adult only on youtube called hellaluva boss
when is ep 8 raection releasing
I Love yours all reaction to this series!! Maybe start up Helluva Boss it’s in the same world as Hazbin Hotel and from Vivziepop also! Can’t wait to see more!
You guys should react to Helluva Boss. It takes place in the universe, same hellverse, but focuses more on the hell born.
The phrase you are looking for is a lie of omission.
A lie by omission?
Imagine if your significant other just forgot to mention they're married. And it just never came up. They were totally not lying cuz that's not an important detail at all. XD. That's basically what Vaggie did.
Not at all. Vaggie kept her traumatic past hidden. You just compared apples to oranges
@@CyanHope oh, was it not obvious that I used a real life example to help someone understand how that counts as lying because they already didn't think it was. And if you're the perpetrator, saying it simply as your traumatic past is misleading.
But it isn’t lying. It is not misleading saying that it was a traumatic event because it fucking was. You are ignoring the fact that she was assaulted,maimed and abandoned. It is traumatic and is clearly portrayed as such. Not talking about your traumatic past is not lying by omission
@@CyanHope you have to understand that she did the traumatic part to all of the denizens of hell she helped kill. She's not just a victim, she's also a perpetrator, under orders of people that has her fate in their hands sure, but she still did that. To reduce that to her simply hiding her pain is what's misleading.
@@SoraJackit is not misleading because her being an ex exorcist doesn’t change anything. It’s still her traumatic past. If a soldier has ptsd from war, and doesn’t tell someone they were in a war. It doesn’t make them less of a victim and it isn’t misleading, especially after what happened that caused them to leave
Hell of a boss is a UA-cam TV show that the creator made there are two seasons.”
Yup! We plan on watching that next 😁
If you like this you could do Villanos, or Villainous in english. I havent seen it myself but it looks really good! And kidna similar in style.
You should really watch Helluva Boss aswell!!
Now you need to watch Helluva Boss!!!
you should definitely helluva boss
Please give Toriko a chance/watch, even if the anime isn’t as good as the manga, it’s still quite enjoyable.
Well, some classics I'd love to see you react to are Yu Yu Hakusho, Static Shock, and Ninjago.
I mean, a suggestion can be either a The Theorizer video of your choosing or Helluva Boss after
You should watch Helluva boss
Same creator same universe but this time it's about hell borns not sinners
Gotta watch helluva boss , made by the same people.
You should def watch The Flash, that'd be so fun to watch!!
You should hellavaboss starting with the pilot episode
HELLUVA BOSS NEEEEEEEEXT🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Try "Murder Drones (2021)".
Lying by ommission
I am pretty sure that if Charlie would have paid better attention to what Vaggie said to her instead of going off and breaking out into song, she could have put together that Vaggie wasn't from hell. Back in episode 3 when they were on the roof, Vaggie asked her how long are they going to sit by and watch 'Your" people be killed. not our people, Charlie didn't catch it.. But a good 90% of people watching the series didn't catch it either. Hell I only caught it on the 6th watch through on someone elses reaction video. lol
Hi guys i really love your videos, I recommend the very good animated Land of the Lustrous (Houseki no kuni)
Please watch helluva boss, it’s by the same creators.
You should watch helluva boss, same universi
Suggest to trying out Re:Creators
I am a demon you no hahahahahha😈
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Pls tri edens zero
HELLUVA BOSS IS AMAZING EVEN BETTER THAN HAZBIN
Helluva boss
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