the hotel is currently closed, but it'll reopen in some months. As far as I know, they want to keep the awesome Wonkavator which really is good news. Out of three built systems in Germany, only this one still exists.
Uplifting PostTower When will it reopen? I definitly want to see this when I reach Hamburg, so I Think I will go there when this Place is reopened! I don't need to see all the lift tough.
that can get very complicated. They usually have the order not to let anyone ride the Wonkavator. They probably only let me ride it because the hotel was about to close and the owner about to abandon this hotel. If the new owner is also very strict about that, it can get complicated. If they also employ new staff to operate the Wonkavator, I don't think we get a permission to ride it :/ EDIT: It seems the hotel is still owned by the investment company. It looks like a re-opening takes quite long. It was planned for spring 2015 however, that is now pretty much unlikely to happen. I also didnt see any construction works going on in this building.
ADDEs Transporting Adventures! the hotel re-opened. The set of two OTIS 2000 VF, although not that old, has been heavily modernized. Now the upper floors are locked off. The Haushahn elevator is still there, but has also been heavily modernized (still with hinged doors however). The OTIS Series 1 elevator - a typical sort of elevator for Maritim Hotels of the early 1990's - has been completely replaced by a new OTIS elevator. The Wonkavator wasn't accessible - there were still constructions works on it. I'm keeping my eye on this one :) Bonus information: The 1910 elevator at Alsterblick is still there. I've been talking to the technician and he told me the old elevator is now counting down one year and then gets replaced.
0:56 I thought in 1994 they were still using the series 1 indicator, but with an early version of the Otis 2000 buttons. 11:40 How does that move the car. Do they have to leave the hand break off?
I know another 1994-built OTIS 2000 H, but that one also uses the newer type of floor indicator rather than the series 1 one. It seems they have been introduced back then. However, I'm quite surprised the animated door indicator existed back then. It must have been quite advanced in 1994! Yes, you need to leave the hand brake off. Like you can see at 06:27, there is a strange vehicle comming out of the lift and grabs the car's wheels. The system probably detect if the car has the hand brake active and an error message is given to the control screen, but I don't know. I didnt ask them about that.
When parking your car do you have to leave it in neutral (engine disconnected) with the break off or does the machine pick up the car and place it onto the "shelf". The spinning tires would suggest that the car is unrestrained, but that could lead to it rolling off the storage shelf which would be bad. I once parked in an automated version of this type of car park, however it has now closed blaming mechanical failure and will become offices.
Wow, that wonkanator is awsome! It's very similair to industrial overhead cranes. I guess it's based on the same hardware design. Those two rails at the top also cause a quite a big load on the building structure. I wonder if 1994 was a transitional year for otis, the end of the series 1/europa 2000, and the start of the fixture design as used in the gen2 elevators. I wonder if these otis elevators still have a conventional motor or whether they already had mrl traction.
This type of elevators was very special and the very few being built are mainly from the 50's and 60's. However, that only worked due to industrialism in the western hemisphere because so many people had a car back then. I don't think an elevator like this has been built in Russia during the soviet era. However, it is quite much possible quite similar systems have been built for industrial purpose and there is a good chance Russian industry plants have or had these too.
So ein MAN-Parksilo stand auch neben dem Hotel Rose (heute Staatskanzlei) am Kranzplatz in Wiesbaden. Es wurde abgerissen für den damaligen Neubau des Hotel Ibis - war allerdings schon vorher für viele Jahre außer Betrieb. Auch ich glaube, dass es in Russland kein solches System gibt - aber wer hätte gedacht, dass es eines in Kenias Hauptstadt Nairobi gibt? Siehe Link: www.elevatorbobs-elevator-pics.com/naiken.html
Gut möglich, dass es solche Systeme auch in England gibt oder gab. Allerdings bin ich mir nicht sicher, ob Marryat & Scott die Anlage gebaut haben, dass schreibt Ian Blackman auch nicht. Die Von Roll Getriebe kommen aus der Schweiz. Diese Firma hat unter anderem Krananlagen und Seilbahnen gebaut. Überhaupt gab es wohl in der Schweiz eines der ersten vollautomatischen Parkhäuser. (Im Hotel Reichshof wird ja manuell gesteuert.) Das Schweizer Parksilo stand in Basel; über Wikipedia ist ein Spiegel-Artikel von 1958 verlinkt: www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-41761639.html Über den Hersteller der Mechanik wird nichts gesagt, aber die Elektrik war laut des Artikels von Siemens & Halske. Im Moment kann ich zu Nairobi nur spekulieren, aber Marryat & Scott würde ich das System nicht unbedingt zuschreiben. Diese Firma hat einfache Aufzüge nach eigener Konstruktion und Fahrtreppen in Lizenz von Eggers-Kehrhahn gefertigt und es sind mir keine bedeutenden Entwicklungen oder Großprojekte aus diesem Haus bekannt. Kurzum: ich traue es Marryat & Scott nicht zu, kann aber irren. LG Jan
That is awesome!! Even sounds like the one i rode!
the hotel is currently closed, but it'll reopen in some months. As far as I know, they want to keep the awesome Wonkavator which really is good news. Out of three built systems in Germany, only this one still exists.
Uplifting PostTower When will it reopen? I definitly want to see this when I reach Hamburg, so I Think I will go there when this Place is reopened!
I don't need to see all the lift tough.
that can get very complicated. They usually have the order not to let anyone ride the Wonkavator. They probably only let me ride it because the hotel was about to close and the owner about to abandon this hotel. If the new owner is also very strict about that, it can get complicated. If they also employ new staff to operate the Wonkavator, I don't think we get a permission to ride it :/
EDIT: It seems the hotel is still owned by the investment company. It looks like a re-opening takes quite long. It was planned for spring 2015 however, that is now pretty much unlikely to happen. I also didnt see any construction works going on in this building.
ADDEs Transporting Adventures! the hotel re-opened. The set of two OTIS 2000 VF, although not that old, has been heavily modernized. Now the upper floors are locked off. The Haushahn elevator is still there, but has also been heavily modernized (still with hinged doors however). The OTIS Series 1 elevator - a typical sort of elevator for Maritim Hotels of the early 1990's - has been completely replaced by a new OTIS elevator. The Wonkavator wasn't accessible - there were still constructions works on it. I'm keeping my eye on this one :)
Bonus information: The 1910 elevator at Alsterblick is still there. I've been talking to the technician and he told me the old elevator is now counting down one year and then gets replaced.
0:56 I thought in 1994 they were still using the series 1 indicator, but with an early version of the Otis 2000 buttons.
11:40 How does that move the car. Do they have to leave the hand break off?
I know another 1994-built OTIS 2000 H, but that one also uses the newer type of floor indicator rather than the series 1 one. It seems they have been introduced back then. However, I'm quite surprised the animated door indicator existed back then. It must have been quite advanced in 1994!
Yes, you need to leave the hand brake off. Like you can see at 06:27, there is a strange vehicle comming out of the lift and grabs the car's wheels. The system probably detect if the car has the hand brake active and an error message is given to the control screen, but I don't know. I didnt ask them about that.
When parking your car do you have to leave it in neutral (engine disconnected) with the break off or does the machine pick up the car and place it onto the "shelf".
The spinning tires would suggest that the car is unrestrained, but that could lead to it rolling off the storage shelf which would be bad.
I once parked in an automated version of this type of car park, however it has now closed blaming mechanical failure and will become offices.
Otis 2000 lifts are excellent. haushan lift looks great. epic wonkavator.
Wow, that wonkanator is awsome! It's very similair to industrial overhead cranes. I guess it's based on the same hardware design. Those two rails at the top also cause a quite a big load on the building structure. I wonder if 1994 was a transitional year for otis, the end of the series 1/europa 2000, and the start of the fixture design as used in the gen2 elevators. I wonder if these otis elevators still have a conventional motor or whether they already had mrl traction.
The Otis 2000 model elevator was introduced in 1993.
OMG AWESOME WONKAVATOR!!! I don't think if there are wonkavators in Russia...
This type of elevators was very special and the very few being built are mainly from the 50's and 60's. However, that only worked due to industrialism in the western hemisphere because so many people had a car back then. I don't think an elevator like this has been built in Russia during the soviet era. However, it is quite much possible quite similar systems have been built for industrial purpose and there is a good chance Russian industry plants have or had these too.
there must be passenger versions of this.
never heard about that. A passenger version of this lift would be very special.
So ein MAN-Parksilo stand auch neben dem Hotel Rose (heute Staatskanzlei) am Kranzplatz in Wiesbaden. Es wurde abgerissen für den damaligen Neubau des Hotel Ibis - war allerdings schon vorher für viele Jahre außer Betrieb. Auch ich glaube, dass es in Russland kein solches System gibt - aber wer hätte gedacht, dass es eines in Kenias Hauptstadt Nairobi gibt? Siehe Link:
www.elevatorbobs-elevator-pics.com/naiken.html
okay, das ist krass! Und das System scheint noch zu funzen. Wenn Marryat & Scott sowas gebaut hat, gab es das doch bestimmt auch in England, oder?
Gut möglich, dass es solche Systeme auch in England gibt oder gab. Allerdings bin ich mir nicht sicher, ob Marryat & Scott die Anlage gebaut haben, dass schreibt Ian Blackman auch nicht. Die Von Roll Getriebe kommen aus der Schweiz. Diese Firma hat unter anderem Krananlagen und Seilbahnen gebaut. Überhaupt gab es wohl in der Schweiz eines der ersten vollautomatischen Parkhäuser. (Im Hotel Reichshof wird ja manuell gesteuert.) Das Schweizer Parksilo stand in Basel; über Wikipedia ist ein Spiegel-Artikel von 1958 verlinkt:
www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-41761639.html
Über den Hersteller der Mechanik wird nichts gesagt, aber die Elektrik war laut des Artikels von Siemens & Halske.
Im Moment kann ich zu Nairobi nur spekulieren, aber Marryat & Scott würde ich das System nicht unbedingt zuschreiben. Diese Firma hat einfache Aufzüge nach eigener Konstruktion und Fahrtreppen in Lizenz von Eggers-Kehrhahn gefertigt und es sind mir keine bedeutenden Entwicklungen oder Großprojekte aus diesem Haus bekannt. Kurzum: ich traue es Marryat & Scott nicht zu, kann aber irren.
LG
Jan
Der dritte Fahrstuhl wurde umgebaut
Aber Der Autoaufzug sieht richtig geil mit auf und ab und seitwärts wenn der alt ist