I remember listening to an engineer who designed and built these glorious things... and the person interviewing them described some some super-complicated theory they they had about the aerodynamics of the wing etc... and wanted to know if it was correct. The guy just nodded sagely, thought about it for a second, and then said 'We just kept making the wing taller and taller until it was tall enough that we could get the boot open'.
Thank you folks, I've been waiting a long time for something like this..:} Lets talk about the Dodge Daytona. Back in the day, the boys with the hot rides would never have touched such a thing. They feared the wings would fall off once you hit 100 MPH. LOL. They were outlawed by NASCAR, because they were so fast that they were not competitive with the other cars. Need we say anything else. USAC ran them for a number of years. What did that speedometer go up to? I know that I did not see a 220 MPH in there. LOL I never owned a Dodge Daytona, but I did own a Dodge Charger. A 1970. No it wasn't race ready, with a 440 Hemi. I had a scaled down model with a 318. It was a big car and that engine handled the Charger gracefully. Very comfy, with power seats, windows, AC. I also owned a Plymouth Fury. 440 CUI stock under the hood. No Hemi, no nitro, no magnum. A straight 440. The first thing I did when I bought the car, (I had it 2 days), tires..... There wasn't nothing left but steel-belt hanging off the back tires. 20 minutes after I put a set of tires on there, I sold the car as somebody really wanted that ride bad. Bad enough to pay me about 10 times what I had stuck into the ride. Dodge, Chrysler & Plymouth held the key to success back in the day. It had something to do with Speed, power, & performance. I Loved them wing warriors. My 1st ride a 1970 Dodge pickup up truck. Once again 440 CUI. Holley 780 DBL. You did not drive that truck in the rain. The NHRA has already outlawed the 2018 Dodge Demon from Bracket Racing for 2018. Could it mean that they are making a comeback?
Trivia tip. You couldn't get the SIX PACK on a 440 Daytona, that option was never offered from the factory. You could get the 6BBL option on the 70 Superbird however.
Back in the day I drove a 69 Nova SS 396/375 4 speed just cruising down the road 50-55 MPH I could actually watch the gas gauge needle moving towards empty. My very 1st car was a 1970 Plymouth Road Runner, it didn't get much more than 10 MPG on the highway, and was a slow ass pig at the drag strip. The 383 Road Runner engines though equipped with a few 440 parts from the factory were still slow as sin.
Beautiful car i could myself having one of these cars if i had about 100k or so and no i don't think i would let anybody sit on the wing or even the car itself love it on orange
That statement of couldn't give them away is true. A guy in my High School grad class bought one with his paper route money (saved over the years prior) and still has it today...true survivor ....survived a divorce that is.
I have heard people who raced them saying that because of the wing acting like verticle stabilizers that you can't spin out with the car at speed. It would keep you going strait.
BashMonkeyRC ya both of those cats are amazing. Even today they could beat most races. I say make one out of carbon fiber and titanium and see if they can beat some of the supercars.
Great car but no mention that the wing base is actually at the floor of the boot. Hence its strength. And if IRC, they were produced with vinyl roofs to cover up imperfections on the roof turret. Slow sellers in the day but hot movers on the track that eventually got them banned. Ironically in hot demand these days.
They sure consumed the gas, my buddy has a Plymouth Superbird 440+6 and in perfect tune on the highway at 65 13mpg was the max, around town you could expect 7~8 mpg.
I met a friend of a friend that had one in the 80s, we went to see, I think he paid about $4500 for it, that was a ton of money back then, considering I was driving a 70 Le-mans that I paid about $500 for, I only ever saw it that one time.
I wonder how the Ford Torino King Cobra's would have done against the Daytona's and Superbird's if Ford had gone through with their plans to put wings on those cars for NASCAR. How many prototypes did Ford actually build before NASCAR changed the rules and said they had to build more than in previous years (with the MOPAR's)?
Does anyone know if the street versions of the Daytona and Superbird came with longer gears to acheive a better top speed or they came with the same gears as the other versions of the cars?
all of the winged Cars came standard with 3.54 or 3.55..........those gears with a hydraulic cam engine limited the top speed to around 120. They all came with 120 rated tires.
They never offered the 440-6 in the Daytona but it was available in the 1970 Superbird.
I remember listening to an engineer who designed and built these glorious things... and the person interviewing them described some some super-complicated theory they they had about the aerodynamics of the wing etc... and wanted to know if it was correct. The guy just nodded sagely, thought about it for a second, and then said 'We just kept making the wing taller and taller until it was tall enough that we could get the boot open'.
The winged cars aren’t my flavor but damn you’ve got to love Chrysler for their engineering! 200mph in that in 1970 takes some stones!
"Tire Roasts" should be the new unit of torque.
The ultimate mopar muscle car!
I always look forward to these shows. Thanks.
Such a beautiful car.
Thank you folks, I've been waiting a long time for something like this..:}
Lets talk about the Dodge Daytona. Back in the day, the boys with the hot rides would never have touched such a thing. They feared the wings would fall off once you hit 100 MPH. LOL. They were outlawed by NASCAR, because they were so fast that they were not competitive with the other cars. Need we say anything else. USAC ran them for a number of years. What did that speedometer go up to? I know that I did not see a 220 MPH in there. LOL I never owned a Dodge Daytona, but I did own a Dodge Charger. A 1970. No it wasn't race ready, with a 440 Hemi. I had a scaled down model with a 318. It was a big car and that engine handled the Charger gracefully. Very comfy, with power seats, windows, AC. I also owned a Plymouth Fury. 440 CUI stock under the hood. No Hemi, no nitro, no magnum. A straight 440. The first thing I did when I bought the car, (I had it 2 days), tires..... There wasn't nothing left but steel-belt hanging off the back tires. 20 minutes after I put a set of tires on there, I sold the car as somebody really wanted that ride bad. Bad enough to pay me about 10 times what I had stuck into the ride. Dodge, Chrysler & Plymouth held the key to success back in the day. It had something to do with Speed, power, & performance. I Loved them wing warriors. My 1st ride a 1970 Dodge pickup up truck. Once again 440 CUI. Holley 780 DBL. You did not drive that truck in the rain. The NHRA has already outlawed the 2018 Dodge Demon from Bracket Racing for 2018. Could it mean that they are making a comeback?
nonsense, the daytona BARELY won 4 races in 1970.
Great video and thank you for posting it! Love those Dodge & Plymouth Wing Cars!
No I wouldn't let anyone sit on the wing!
First thing that came to mind is this was the first car to break the 200 mph barrier
Trivia tip. You couldn't get the SIX PACK on a 440 Daytona, that option was never offered from the factory. You could get the 6BBL option on the 70 Superbird however.
Tom Jones that’s pretty good. Back in the day the cars I drove got about 5 mpg.
Maybe it was just the way I drove it.
Tom Jones exactly right
Back in the day I drove a 69 Nova SS 396/375 4 speed just cruising down the road 50-55 MPH I could actually watch the gas gauge needle moving towards empty. My very 1st car was a 1970 Plymouth Road Runner, it didn't get much more than 10 MPG on the highway, and was a slow ass pig at the drag strip. The 383 Road Runner engines though equipped with a few 440 parts from the factory were still slow as sin.
Kevin in a bikini on a Daytona wing... now there's a picture I'd pay to see :)
BubbaSmurft Yes so would i
Beautiful car i could myself having one of these cars if i had about 100k or so and no i don't think i would let anybody sit on the wing or even the car itself love it on orange
That statement of couldn't give them away is true. A guy in my High School grad class bought one with his paper route money (saved over the years prior) and still has it today...true survivor ....survived a divorce that is.
Even if it was saved over a decade on a paper route job, that's truly a sign of how the times have changed
I have heard people who raced them saying that because of the wing acting like verticle stabilizers that you can't spin out with the car at speed. It would keep you going strait.
Petty said the same thing about the Superbird
BashMonkeyRC ya both of those cats are amazing. Even today they could beat most races. I say make one out of carbon fiber and titanium and see if they can beat some of the supercars.
Great car but no mention that the wing base is actually at the floor of the boot. Hence its strength.
And if IRC, they were produced with vinyl roofs to cover up imperfections on the roof turret.
Slow sellers in the day but hot movers on the track that eventually got them banned. Ironically in hot demand these days.
They sure consumed the gas, my buddy has a Plymouth Superbird 440+6 and in perfect tune on the highway at 65 13mpg was the max, around town you could expect 7~8 mpg.
I met a friend of a friend that had one in the 80s, we went to see, I think he paid about $4500 for it, that was a ton of money back then, considering I was driving a 70 Le-mans that I paid about $500 for, I only ever saw it that one time.
I hope I have the Charger
Hey Kevin
Great channel
I liked the tachy tach time gauge.
I wonder how the Ford Torino King Cobra's would have done against the Daytona's and Superbird's if Ford had gone through with their plans to put wings on those cars for NASCAR. How many prototypes did Ford actually build before NASCAR changed the rules and said they had to build more than in previous years (with the MOPAR's)?
3 King Cobra's, 2 Ford, 1 Merc' and it doesn't matter as Ford won most of the races against these anywho.
William Matthews Have you ever seen the Talladega Torino?
Richard Gill Yes.
I think Ford built 3 of the King Cobra Torinos. I'm pretty sure
One of them was a Mercury Cyclone and two were Ford Torinos. Not sure what they called the Mercury though
Does anyone know if the street versions of the Daytona and Superbird came with longer gears to acheive a better top speed or they came with the same gears as the other versions of the cars?
Dave's Garage i'm sure you could get them with up to 391 like any other charger.
Dave's Garage not sure but graveyard carz has a channel. He can answer that question. He used to be on the Velocity channel
all of the winged Cars came standard with 3.54 or 3.55..........those gears with a hydraulic cam engine limited the top speed to around 120. They all came with 120 rated tires.
So... What's the top speed on this beauty?
Did anybody the price tags on one of these "Cruise Missles" lately?
Ugh, put me in the group that stayed away back in the day
This was the beautiful ugly car ever. Absolutely stunning.
Cool car , but like a lot of Mopars, rare for the wrong reasons.
Nice chem trails in the sky!
I'd let Daisy Ridley sit on my Daytona wing... if I had a Daytona... and if daisy would stop calling the cops.
The automatic ruins it.
Home of the Mad I agree
Richard Gill I wonder how many of those lazy self-righteous morons will complain that manuals aren't fun.
Home of the Mad your right again
I disagree...